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Oh, my God, I'm so nervous. Okay, do we just go or do we practice once?

No, we're just going to do it. We're just going to do it.

Okay, great.

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So, listener, you're a part of a double reboot episode.

Yeah, we had two reboots.

Both Will and I had to reboot this morning, which you are the reboot.

Champ of our trio.

Yeah, for some reason, my computer is always the one that's a little it's Adele.

I love her.

Great musician, bad computers.

Yeah, I want to speaking of great musician, great singers, can I just say that within just recently, we lost a great friend, the great Buffett, jimmy Buffett. And it was just such a huge loss and loved the guy.

Very close friend of yours.

Close friend of the whole family. Yeah. I knew Jimmy a long time. We weren't best friends, but we were definitely good friends and good family friends and the kids and everybody. Obviously, my heart goes out to Delaney and Savannah and Cameron and my dear friend Jimmy's wife Jane. Love them all.

I'll second that.

Yeah. You guys know Jane. Just one of the all time greats.

She's great. Yeah.

Super sad. Super sad.

Sorry about that.

And a huge loss. What an awesome guy. Apart from being an incredible singer songwriter. Just a big hearted guy.

Yeah. He's one of those guys, too, that you hear after how many friends he had, you're just like, oh, my God. Everybody knew him. Everybody loved him.

Yeah. He was the most generous, kind dude. And I have so many memories of him being really generous and kind, not just to me, but to my kids, especially the big kids. Got to spend a lot of time with.

Yeah.

Just a great example of a person that I'm sure that since this was tragically, not sudden, he had time to review, I'm sure of how he's used his years and talk about we're all going, we're all leaving. So what do you do while you're here, and how do you help people and help your family and utilize your uniqueness? There's only one of everybody, so he seemed to really be a poster child for that.

One of the all time greats. And so we love you, Jimmy, and we miss you already. But you are not forgotten, my friend.

I love that.

Yep. So right before we get to our guest, Sean, quickly, how are you finding your first week back from the tabasco theater? Are you enjoying being home in La revisiting with your sheets, your pillows?

Yes. Oh, my God, it's so nice. My body still thinks I need to be somewhere and perform, but I'm almost over it.

They call me because I know they wanted to do more. They called me and they said, listen. And they said, Sean's leaving, but would you ever consider and I said, you mean come in to do Oscar de Levine? And they said, now forget it.

We got the wrong number.

Gosh, that sounds just like, no, I'm good. You mean Mario? Mario brothers.

You don't take a lot of adjusting to get back into kind of just.

Doing I do, actually. I'm pretty tired. I'm going to have energy.

But you got to the house. Where your slippers? Happy to see you.

They greeted me with open arms. I put them right on.

How's Ricky doing?

Good. Everything's good.

It is weird. Tracy.

What's that?

I was just telling Tracy that that's a dog.

But Tracy knows the dog's name.

Tracy knows a dog. If there's one thing she's the.

I'm excited. Everything's good. Everything's good. Everything's back to normal. It's like I was gone two days.

Jason's getting ready for his intro. He's still doing some copy pasting.

No. I'm in a deep sweat here, trying to find because of the reboot listener. Remember we talked about the reboot? Lost my notes during the reboot, but I just pulled them up out of the bin.

Great.

Guest. You're safe. Okay, guest, guest. Here we go. We got a real superhero this morning, guys. Our guest today is, without dispute, one of the best athletes the world has ever seen.

This is my department.

And his sport of football. He might be the best we'll ever see.

Wow.

He is the NFL's only five time most valuable Player. He is a 14 time Pro Bowl selection.

It's Peyton Manning.

He's the first to win a Super Bowl with two different teams. He's been inducted to the hall of Fame, and he has more individual records than we got time to mention. It's Eli's brother charitable and will. His charitable and philanthropic efforts are equally impressive. With his own foundation and scholarship fund having mastered playing football, he now dominates television while also finding time to maintain a 23 year marriage. He's a father to 13 year old twins and he's able to grade papers as a professor at his alma mater. Please welcome Will Peyton Manning.

I mean, come on, the sheriff is here.

Hi, Peyton.

You said five time.

Yeah, there's nobody left.

Wow.

Did you have it? Guest, Sean?

I did.

Sean had it.

Quite the intro.

Peyton, first of all, I've said this a lot over the years, from the first time I saw you on a sketch program, of which I'm not going to mention throughout all the number of commercials you've done and things you've done. And I don't want to embarrass you, Peyton, I think you're the best actor athlete of all time. Of all time hall of Fame, awesome time.

And that's not a thin category.

It's not. It's a big category. And I say this not to embarrass you. Talk us through a little bit how the Manning cast started, because I love that you guys ended up doing it and that you're on TV every week, you and your brother.

Yeah, he's awesome.

How did that come about? What was the thing that you guys were like, oh, shit, did somebody come to you? Or were you like, eli, we should be sporting our junk on TV every week?

Well, yeah, it's funny because I hate to say anything good came out of the pandemic, but obviously there was a lot of things being done remotely during the pandemic, including broadcasting, certainly. And so I've been in talks, Will, with doing the traditional broadcasting. Right. Which I don't think people understand what that really entails. Right. The Chris Collinsworth, the late John Madden, who really created it. It is go to the town where the game is on Friday, watch practice, interview the home team. Saturday, visit with the visiting team coming in, and then sit around all day Sunday or Sunday night or even Monday to do the game. And then when you get back home, you're really not home because you better be studying where the left guard went to high school and what his 40 time is. You have to know more than a quarterback would. Quarterback just has to know the defense, right? A broadcaster. You got to know special teams, you got to know the depth chart. And so anyway, that's what I did not want to do because I got young kids playing sports, wanted to be there on the weekends. My dad was at my youth basketball games, peewee football games, those kind of things.

So that was the priority. And then, so I kind of approached ESPN, I was know, I saw the remote thing. Is that going to continue? I could get my brother, he's unemployed, I could get know, kind of into the mean. He literally thought they were joking. He's like, Wait a minute, they're gonna pay me to watch football with my brother from my house in New Jersey? He's like, yes, I know I went to Ole Miss, but I'm still smart enough to know that's a good deal. I will do the whole family, Will. That's amazing. That's how it came about. And so, look, we feel like we are at a bar or on the couch watching the game together, which we would be doing anyway, and the viewer is sitting there with us and our guest. They have to love football, Will. That's the number one criteria. You got to love football.

And what's cool to me will called in, right? Like I'm supposed to call in.

Yeah, we'd love to have we'd love to have all of it. I mean, now that Sean's an expert, get a picker on the spread.

But Peyton, I used to play football when I was a kid, which is critical.

Which is critical to being on it. You have to have played flag as a third grader to get on no.

No, I was tackle football.

Really?

Tell us about that.

Your dad watched your games, I heard, through the rear view mirror, right, as he was driving away. A lot of side view mirror as he was driving away. Sean's family, sean's dad famously left his family top speed. You know what's funny is we started a smart list during the pandemic as well. And we can't believe that anybody would want to sit around and listen to us just shoot the shit. It seems ridiculous even today, right?

It's a shocking it's different. And I think people, like I said, I think when the game's good, we're talking about the game. When the game's not so good, nobody wants to hear about the third and one run play and what defense they were playing when it was a 1 YD game. Who cares? Let's talk to Condoleeza Rice about why she likes football. So I think the cool thing about it, Will, is that there's so many people from different backgrounds. I mean, we had President Obama last year. Condoleeza Rice. Snoop Dogg is a huge football thing. He's been a youth football coach in La for years.

John, do you know who Snoop Dogg is?

Yes, I do know who it's like it just brings people together, which I think which is cool thing about football, and it doesn't matter kind of what your background is or where you came from.

I love football. Liverpool is my favorite team. Oh, boy.

I watch every Saturday and this timed out perfectly. Right, Peyton? Because staying at home your kids are your kids 13?

Yeah, they're twelveTH. 7th grade and boy and girl twins, literally. Monday, my daughter has a volleyball game at 04:00 Mountain Time that I'll go to. And then at five, I'll drive over to my buddy Scott's garage, which is where I film it and do the show at 615, and I'm home at 930.

Wait.

How did Scott on.

How did Scott's house turn into the studio?

Great quick story. Scott owed me a favor. When you win a football game as a quarterback, you have about 50 text after a game. When you lose, you have three. Your wife says she loves you. Your dad, who played, says, hey, tough night, I'm proud of you, hang in there. Your other brother, who's a quarterback, eli. Hey. Some tough conditions. Get them next week. What you don't do when a quarterback loses is replay the game in the text. Like you don't say, hey, really sorry about those four interceptions. Yes, thank you. I remember I was there, it was 20 minutes ago. My friend Scott, we've all done this. Have you ever texted someone accidentally, you're talking about them and you text the person that you're talking about? Yes. I threw four interceptions against the Bingles. One night I come in, I got four texts. My dad, my brother, my wife. I have a fourth from Scott, who texts, says, hey, do you think Peyton has money on this? I mean, we've all been there, right? Do I respond? No. Do I know it's an accident? Yes. Does Scott call me on Thursday to say, hey, my ten year old was playing with my phone.

If you got a weird text, I'm like, all right, Scott, the fact that you blamed your ten year old son, now I have a problem with it. So ten years later, dirt bag, I said, Scott, I need your garage, okay? You owe me. That was mental trauma. So I'm using your garage. And that's how it came about.

No.

Peyton, do you just not have the space in your studio apartment that you live in?

Yes. It's tight quarters in there. The equipment. I didn't know this stays there all year. I thought it was like, we're going to pop in and we'll pop out when we come back in a couple of weeks. We only do ten games, by the way. We don't do all 17. I don't want to see Eli 17 weeks in a row via Zoom. And so that equipment staying there year round didn't excite. Ashley we were doing a little house construction, so that's why I called Scott's garage. Eli does it from his backhouse in New Jersey.

Scott's got an extra man cave, right?

He does. Which is not a cool word to use on TV. So we say garage.

Yeah, exactly. Jason how dare you? There must be some good tax implications for Scott, too, I imagine.

I don't really know what he gets out of it. He wants to come before the game. I don't let him come. Let him come, like, twice. Two out of the ten games, he gets to come by to his own crowd.

He needs to vacate his home. Does he have children or pets?

He doesn't live there, at least that I know he's a car collector, but that's where it is. But, yeah, I think two games is plenty.

You got to get him on.

Oh, God. But he liked that. He would like that so much. He obviously likes football because he was watching that Bengals game in the fourth quarter after I'd already thrown four interceptions. So it's clear that he's a fan.

That is so good.

We'll be right back.

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So, Peyton, I was curious to what Will was saying before about going from football to acting or just kind of all around personality. What was it like to go what was it like your first time when someone was like, hey, we want you to do this commercial or this thing or whatever it was, whatever your first thing and how awkward it must have been not being an actor to kind of look at the camera like, this is bizarre. I don't know if I want this, or was it something you wanted and you're like, I can do this. What do I do? What was the feeling like?

Yeah, it's never really something that I guess wanted or thought that I was going to be able to do. You play quarterback and all of a sudden you start getting asked to do a few different things. Right. They want you to come speak to a school. Right. And certainly you do interviews. Now, I will say my dad having played great Archie man for 14 years, Sean, that helped me. Right. I think my dad helped me as much with things off the field that come with being a quarterback as opposed to just on the field. I mean, he always said, do your interviews after you lose, sign autographs.

Yeah. And is that something you have to hone, being able to interview and stuff like that?

Yeah, I think to I still say and, you know, too much. And he's always still to this day, my dad texts me and Eli at halftime with like a full grade of the Peyton, you know, quit saying. I mean, it's like, literally, it feels like we're back in kids. So the you know, I remember know saying that to me. People told me, hey, well, you have good timing. I'm like, yeah, I try to throw the ball on time, try to hit the receiver out of the break. They're like, no in commercials. And so I don't really know what that means, but I know that I like to laugh. I know that my brothers made fun of me a lot and I laughed at that, and I would dish it back. I know that in an NFL locker room, sean, you better have thick skin. You better be able to take it. And so for a football player to take their helmet off and show that they don't take themselves too seriously, I guess that's kind of what I think about. But by no means, don't insult acting by saying, I'm an actor, right. I'm an ex jock that can read a script and can say the line in the way I would normally say it.

I think that kind of helps.

But you've got an infectious comfort with your own skin that doesn't seem like it's something that's new, but JB, I.

Think that is and Peyton, you said it. I think it is that you get the sense that you don't take yourself too seriously, which is great. And having that ability to be able to laugh at yourself is key to it, especially, obviously, in comedy. Not that I'm an expert on comedy, but I think that that is a big part of it. Also, you're not unused to pressure situations. You've been in a few, right? So when they go action, you're like, okay, I mean, I'm shooting a commercial or I'm doing a thing. Yeah, I was in the fucking super. I went to Super Bowls. That's a lot of pressure.

I mean, the one thing and like I said, that football is live. And you mentioned a certain show that's also live. And I wasn't necessarily that nervous when I did that because I screwed up live so many times. I mean, I threw six interceptions against the Chargers one night. Would have thrown seven easily. Thank God we ran out of time.

I just texted you about that.

You did? You remember that game?

Yeah.

I just want to remind you about yeah.

Thanks for bringing up all my highlights on this show. And so I guess when you're used to doing live and screwing up live, that when you know you can read a line and have a chance to do it again in a commercial if it doesn't go well, I guess that certainly makes it a little less stressful for me. But I'm pretty. Coachable, I will say when the guy says, here's what I want you to know. My Tennessee education goes as far as at least being able to follow those.

Remember that. Because I remember when you did that show and I remember my ex wife Amy, we talked about we were like, man, I didn't talk to you. I wasn't famous yet then, so nobody wanted to talk. None of the guests want to talk to me yet, none of the hosts. But I remember us talking about it at the time and being like, man, he was so good and relaxed. That was what it was, is you were really relaxed, which is key.

Look, that was easy to be relaxed because I was around some incredibly talented people. I think the favorite part about that particular show was being I got to go in the huddle with in a football game, will, you don't get to have a twelveTH guy in the huddle. Right. You don't get to have a shadow for the day. I'm like, hey, you're in the way, get out of the running back's path. I love going behind the ropes in a different field, and so that's kind of what's been fascinating to me in some of the different things I've gotten to do.

Yeah, but you definitely needed to find a confidence and a sense of peace with being the center of something and being comfortable with basically having the ball. You asked for the ball.

Yes.

So for the people who don't play football, can you put it at the risk of asking a heavy question early on, what is the most important thing that your average person should reach down and grab when they're asked to show their excellence? What is that part of you that you tap into where you're comfortable in a leadership position, that you have the confidence to execute? Did that start really young? Is it something that you learned?

Yeah, now, it's a good question, because I think, look, for me, it goes back to kind of preparation in football. I couldn't throw it 80 yards down the field like some of these guys can now. I mean, I think Josh Allen and my homes can literally throw it 80 yards on their back foot, couldn't outrun anybody. If you ever watch me play, Sean, you should know that. Right. I had a coach tell me once that I couldn't run out of sight in a week.

Right.

That was nice. Took me a while to figure out what that meant, but I think it means I'm not fast. And so I was like, I got to out prepare them. I got to study more film than them. I got to know my place, my receivers, and I got to be on the same page more than anybody. And so I think that preparation has served me in these other capacities. I am not afraid to ask questions and go, hey, Amy, tell me how you want me to say know. Tell me what you want me to do. Hey, director, what do I do? My dad used to give me quotes as a kid, and there's a great quote when he gave me when I was in high school. Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Chuck Knoll once said, pressure is something that you feel only when you don't know what the hell you're doing. And, man, that just stuck with me at the time in school, but it applied to football. Nervous? You bet. I got nervous before every game. Matter of fact, I think it's good to get nervous. That means you care about what happened. The pressure, that's different.

That means you really haven't done your homework. Right. That's a bad feeling. I think that's kind of what always served me well, and it kind of helps me in these other ventures that I'm doing. In the second chapter.

Yeah. Because as a mean, the games I watch, it's like they're always like Jason just said, you're always the leader. You have to have that DNA, that build in order not just to be a great player, but to lead by example.

Right.

It takes a certain intelligence, too, and I'm sure it's rare. That's why there's so many hard it's hard to find so many I'm biased.

It's a hard position. Yeah. I mean, when you play, I think you got to. Sign up for all of it. You got to accept the blame when you don't win. And when you win, you got to share the credit with others. And there's no question. It's not for everybody.

Can I ask a question about a certain play? Sorry, Jay. And then I'm no good because I really do love football. I've talked to the guys about hot hut beans.

Oh, go ahead.

And then ask him about Omaha and.

Why numbers 23, 46, hike. No, but I am fascinated by the science of it. Like by the talent and the science of you in your brain, figuring out how hard and fast to throw the ball to reach at a certain distance, a short distance or a long distance or whatever. That fascinates me. But dumb, dumb question. Just as a stupid spectator.

Additional dumb, dumb question.

They're all dumb questions. I'm always so curious when there's a play where all of the players are stuck together in the most dense amount of players, you always throw it to that corner. When there's all these defense people around the and then you look from on TV, you're like, there's eight other guys wide up. Like, why did you throw it to.

The crowded part of the field?

You know what I mean?

Are you talking about in general, or are you actually saying that?

No, like in general. In general. In general. Do you know what I mean? On TV, it always seems like, why do they just throw it to the 17 players that around the one open.

Guy receiver instead of the so, like the offensive lineman? The big guys, they aren't eligible to catch a pass, so that eliminates those, you know, the left tackle might, but if they're open well, yeah, he looks open, right? Because nobody's guarding him because he's not allowed.

I call him like, I see him.

I got him. That's a good idea.

And plus, Sean wants to know, well, he's the largest guy, so why wouldn't you throw it to him? He seems like he'd do well with the ball.

I'm going to text my homes after this and say, hey, the left guard, I got a feeling, is going to be open tonight against the Lions.

That's what I'm saying. That's why you need Sean.

Sean. I don't know how it works. I mean, not as well, but that thing of know, when players come on, they have to literally declare their eligibility, right? Like, who, I didn't know that field.

I didn't know that.

At risk of boring everybody, but ins and outs of the rules. Yeah.

I mean, there's five linemen. There's a quarterback, so that's six. There's only five other players that are eligible to catch the pass. There are certain formations that you can line up in where an offensive lineman is eligible, but he has to tell everybody number 75 is eligible. So the defense hears that and they go, maybe we should run account.

Just run it. Just run it. Just run it.

Old school football. I love that.

I love Peyton. So obviously football know a passion of yours and your dad, Archie, who shares a great name with my son, or my son shares with him.

Did you name Archie? After Archie Manning?

I did not.

Did you name Archie after the cartoon?

Sure didn't.

So did you name him after all in the family?

No, man. I named him after a Scottish woodcrafter. That's a true story. A guy we used to know, a Scotsman, his name was Archie Woodcrafter. I forget what it was.

Answer your question.

Ask my question. Which was, so football has just dominated your life. Not dominated been such a big part of your life. But I imagine that you're a fan of other sports. And I joked about football, about soccer that the rest of the world calls football. I love American football. I'm a massive soccer fan. I'm a massive hockey fan because I'm Canadian. What's your?

You're an F one fan and F one?

Well, of course. F one. I don't know if you guys know, but I did in association with Omaha, we did the first one, and we slated to do two more of these Formula One sort of what do we call them? They're sort of like mannequin.

Alternate Broadcast.

Megan alternate broadcast? Yeah.

Megan cast for Formula One races.

Yeah.

Oh, nice.

Yeah, with me and Danny Ricardo. And then he went and took a seat.

He had such a great experience doing it with Will. He went back into racing a week later, which I thought was very telling.

Out of retirement, and then he broke his hand. Poor Danny. I actually got to text him back. But what other sport, other than Formula One, do you have a sport that you're passionate about other than mean?

I play golf, certainly, but look, I love in Denver, so I mean, the know the Avalanche. So keep up with all of our local sports grew up playing baseball, but golf would be my one kind of passion. Me and Bateman are looking for a game. He's kind of giving me the run around on a tea time.

Is that true?

It's been tough. It's been tough.

Listen, come play. I'll play with you. I'm much freer than Jason.

Now, Peyton, don't you see golf more as a game as opposed to a sport? Do you draw a distinction there between a game and a yeah, yeah. Like baseball I consider a game not a sport. Football, I think, is a sport. Basketball, I think, is a sport. Baseball more of a game. Golf more of a game. Tennis more of a game.

I've never thought about it.

Stuff that's a little bit slower, that's a little bit more sort of you got to deal a little bit more in long term strategy as opposed to quick turnaround on plays, scoring opportunities.

Tennis is a sport.

I think I don't want to play with Jason now after hearing that, oh.

Dude, can I get out? I hear your dude. He's so intense after this.

Sounds like a long pre shot routine, is what it sounds.

Dude. Dude, you have no idea why'd you do it. You know what it's called? He even admits it's called the process.

The process of a shot.

Let's put it this way.

I walk ahead of the group so I can start my process and not suck up any extra.

You've never seen anybody stand over a ball longer before they actually hit. And you think and as a sportsman, you're going to say, how the fuck can you even make he plays very well, by the way.

It's gotten better. Has it not gotten better?

It's gotten better. It has gotten better.

I think I'd rather watch football with Sean and complain about them not throwing to the lineman than play golf. That's what I'm saying, Bateman.

That's what I'm saying.

I need a shot clock in golf. I think I do well with sounds like it.

You have gotten much better, though. I will say that.

You have gotten much better, I hear. Peyton, if you're a four handicap, you have four swing thoughts. If you're a 20 handicap, you got 20 swing thoughts. So I think I've become a little bit better in golf, and so my checklist is smaller.

Jason, what are you playing at right now?

Jay?

My handicap?

Yeah.

I'm like, what am I, an eleven from the blues at our place? So it's like a seven index.

Yeah, 25 words or less. What's the handicap?

Thank you. It's unbelievable, isn't it?

It's unbelievable. You know how he was saying sport in a sport and a game? Jason's questions are a game.

I know.

Not a sport.

I just love the sound of my voice so much, you guys.

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I would love being a quarterback just so I could yell and everyone in the stadium's listening to me. Speaking of which, I bet you've answered this question a million times. I want to know the relevance of Omaha as your audible call. And then also I want to hear what just an average play sounds like in the huddle.

Okay?

Just tell me what that sounds like and then tell me what it all means.

What it means.

Let's go with the huddle call first.

Perfect. All right, here we go. Let's go. Explode to gun. Double right, flip zebra, scat left y drag F, hook f trail alert, 52 sprint jaw easy. On two, on two. Ready? Break. All right, come on. We're going to explode means we're going to start in a kind of a tight formation. We're going to explode out to the different formation, right? We're going to make the defense react.

Right before the snap.

Before the snap right. We're going to shift right. Gun shotgun right. Double means we are going to be in a two guys on each side formation. Double right trips would be trips to one side. Double. We're going to go double right, which means the tight end is going to be on the right, but we're going to flip it, and we're going to put the guy who should be on the right with the tight end, he's going to flip to the other side, which is actually going to form a little bunch on the left. We're going to go zebra is going.

To go in motion.

Zebra is going to tell him to go on motion. Zebra is going to tell the Z to go in and back out.

There's.

Zebra motion right. A little eye candy for the defense. Right? Scat left is the pass protection.

That'll show you what the defense is based on how they react to the motion.

That's exactly right. If the cornerback runs with the motion, that tells you it's man to man. If they just kind of bump over, that tells you it's zone. It's called a presnap indicator. Scat left is the pass protection. Let's see y. Drag is telling the Y to run a five yard drag across the field. X hook. Twelve yard hook by the X F trail is the F is going to run a little angle right out of the backfield to fullback. Yeah, the running back, the guy in the backfield. And then alert. 52 sprint draw easy is if the defense is playing soft zone and you don't like it, you go, alert, alert, alert. You've seen Tom Brady. He always says, Alert, alert, alert, points to his head. You're going to go to the second play. You're going to run this draw play to the right to take advantage of the defense on two. It's going to be not on one and not on two, not on one. It's going to be on two. And then you're ready. Break.

That's when the snap comes. And then what if you yell Omaha at the line that says an audible? And how do they know what that new play?

Exactly. So Omaha was really the word that meant we had changed the play. When you audible, Jason, it's usually with, like, 6 seconds left, right? Because the defense is disguising. They're showing blitz. They're not going to blitz. All of a sudden, you're like, Ah, they're not blitzing. Okay, I want to go to that second play. So I'm going to say Alert, alert, alert. And I don't have time to go through a rhythmic cadence, which Sean alluded to earlier with the colors. Right. Blue 20. Blue 20. Hut, hut is a normal cadence. You don't have time to say that with 6 seconds left. So you go, Alert, alert, alert. Omaha. Set, hut. Right. It tells everybody, oh, he's gone to that second play, and there's just a few seconds, and now we're going to snap the ball.

That's fascinating.

And you called the second play in that huddle as well.

We called the second play in that huddle, and that's all we did. So I was saying Omaha every single play. So that's how it kind of got connected with me. The microphones got turned up louder, and you start a production company out of that because of an audible. So it was a chain reaction about yelling Ozark.

I think that would have popped through.

A little bit better. It's funny you say that, because it's a good way to get your show, your business. Viral marketing, if you can get it into a quarterback snap count three syllables is kind of what it needs to be. It's rhythmic, right? Ozark would be jerky, right. And somebody might flinch.

Well, it was filled with jerks. It was filled with jerks.

Will Arnett has got a good little.

Flow to.

Etron audi.

Sure.

That sounds so forced.

We are professional grade. We are professional grade. You know what the other thing you could have just said? JK JK, like, just kidding about the.

Would kill first of all, I would kill to write the new lingo for the huddle. I would kill to write those words.

Hey, do you hear about Sean's new gig?

It would start with okay, ready?

Do you guys hear about Sean's new gig?

I write lingo for the huddle.

It'd also be start with, okay, guess what? Or here goes.

Here goes.

We got two jobs in a cuff on the side with a lemon hut.

It would be 5678, and then they would snap it.

Okay, so wait, Peyton, that blows my mind. All that.

Is a Chinese restaurant that Sean has basically drained.

Got a charge card at.

I got a freak gift card into there.

If you guys want to ask one question yet. Go ahead, Sean.

I know. So I think that's all fascinating to me. Obviously, different teams have different lingo, right?

They don't use similar languages, different verbiages. That's why when quarterbacks change teams, it's hard to learn the new vocabulary. Aaron Rodgers is going to the jets this year, but the guy that's calling the plays came from Green Bay. So Aaron knows the language, he knows the verbiage, so he's going to be able to play fast and play well. Learning a new system is hard. It takes time. And so that's a huge advantage for the jets this year.

What would you do if another quarterback started yelling Omaha as their audible barking?

I'd send them my address. I'd expect a letter from a lawyer. A little bit of patent on that.

Yes, exactly. Peyton. I've always wondered about this because we do it a little bit. We're kind of carneys doing what we do in that we move around a bunch. Sometimes it sort of coincides with the school year or whatever and kids and all that stuff. You start out you're a single young man right out of college, you go pro, you have a very successful career, and then you get married and then you have kids. What is that life like as you're sort of in the latter half of your career and your kids are growing up and you're on the road and stuff? At the risk of getting too personal, just what was that dynamic like and being an athlete and you've got to take care of yourself. You got to manage your sleep, you got to manage your diet. How does that fit in with the home life?

Yeah, it's funny. Football is pretty good on travel, right? I think people completely different than basketball or baseball. Football, you travel Saturday eight times a year, right. Just eight road games. And you're back home Sunday after the know, baseball, you're spending four nights in the you know, you're on the road. So football is pretty good from that standpoint. We didn't have kids until basically we got to Denver toward the last half of my career. But, yeah, I do think it's a challenge to look quarterback. You know, some people say I can't take it home with me. I think they're paying you to take it home with you. I think you got to really organize your time and your schedule. Hey, on Tuesdays, my off day, I'm going to plan these things with my young kids or do some charity work. But I think kind of writing out your schedule kind of helps quarterbacks. Right. But certainly a lot of film study, a lot of things on your own. But from a family standpoint, playing in the NFL is actually pretty good.

Yeah. Interesting. And you're used to it, because obviously, again, your dad played for 14 years in the NFL, so you've seen it from both sides.

Yeah, and my dad was a great included us. Me and my brother Cooper got to go to the practices on Saturdays, got to go down the locker room after games. And so I think you see more quarterbacks, including their young kids and people in their lives. Right. Kirk Cousins, in this quarterback show we did, had his kids in the locker room, so I can relate to that, and I love including my kids and some of the cool things that I get to do.

That's cool.

What was the tension like when you were getting close to saying yes to Tennessee and not going to Ole Miss? Did you try for old miss? Because Peyton's dad went to Old Miss, was a big deal there, and then you were no slouch coming up. So what was that decision process going? Was old miss interested?

Yeah, they were interested. I was interested. That's kind of where I wanted to go, Jason. That's where I always thought I would go. It's where only college I ever thought existed for the majority of my life. And then you start getting recruited and you realize, oh, there are some other schools, and I got to give props to my dad. My dad said, Son, you're 17 years old. You can make your own decision here. Right. You decide where you want to go, and you go there, and I'll have your back. Had. He said, you're going to Ole Miss. That's where I went. That's what we're doing. End of the discussion. And he actually took some flak from people that he knew for not making you to his alma mater, which was tough.

But what happened with the first time you played Ole Miss?

That was awkward for my parents. It's funny, when the coach for Tennessee came to recruit me, that was my mom's number one question. Do y'all play Ole Miss in the next four years? And he says, no, we don't. And it was an absolute lie. We played him twice in those four years. Right. Which back then it was like before the Internet, you couldn't really check the future schedules.

How'd you do in those games?

We won both, which was probably yeah. I mean, it was tough. My dad kind of sat on his hands and wore neutral clothes, and Eli went to Ole Miss. Everybody was happy. Everybody's at peace now.

But watching your dad play football, when you were growing up, obviously. The question is, would you have gone into football? Do you just think that's, well, that's what my dad did. That's what I'm going to do.

That's a great question. I think people think my dad raised quarterbacks. That was his master plan. It was actually the complete opposite he just raised.

Do you think you would have been drawn to it anyway?

There's no doubt that I had a real passion for it because I got to grow up around it, right?

Yeah.

He was my hero, my dad favorite quarterback, all of that. But it was never a plan. It was never like, hey, Peyton, we're going to go run 2 miles this morning. People used to say my dad had me watching film as a fifth grader. That is total bullshit. Like completely made mean. He tried to raise normal kids and maybe that's why it ended up happening, because it wasn't some master plan. Right.

And it wasn't forced upon you.

Absolutely not.

And dumb question. Worst injury ever.

I've had neck problems during my time with the colts and had several surgeries.

Oh, really?

That must have been scary. Neck takes everything, right?

I remember that the doctors that I went to, I basically challenged them to tell me, hey, tell me I can't play anymore and that's the end of it. I will walk away today. I want to be healthy for the rest of my life. And they just wouldn't say it. They said, hey, your neck actually is secure. You have nerve damage in your right arm. So I had weakness. That was kind of my, you know, I remember the doctor that I trusted most. He's like, peyton, if you were my own son, I'd tell you, you are cleared to play. If you get your strength back, you're good to go. And so that's kind of what it was for me.

By the way, it should be noticed. Sorry. Just stay on the neck thing. I'm not kidding.

Thing.

Chappie mark Chapel, who's my budy and writing partner in England, who's a friend of the show, he literally texted me during ten minutes ago, out of the.

Blue, I love you.

He says, in the end, I decided to have surgery on my problematic muscle in my neck. Oh, wow. I never looked back.

Very nice. That's a joke. Thank you.

Chappie out of the blue.

So with you and Eli kind of boldly going into a lane that your father had already been incredibly successful in, I think it's really incredible that you guys had the courage to do that, knowing that you're probably going to be unfairly judged and then had incredible results. Can you talk a little bit about what that process was, making that calculation and then what it felt like when you guys did so well?

Yeah, I mean, we didn't know how it was going to turn out because there was no kind of baseline for what we were doing. And I knew doing it with Eli Jason was the only way to do it right. You talk about chemistry amongst broadcast partners. I know Eli very well. He makes fun of me very well, often a lot. I mean, the forehead jokes, they get a little old. I'm like, Get some new material. I think that gave us a chance kind of coming out of the blocks that we see football the same way. Eli and I used to have these conversations on the bus after a Colts or Giants game, and we could just talk about the play from one of our games, and I could see it. I didn't have to write it down. He didn't have to screenshot a picture of the defense. I'm like, I got it. And so we still kind of can see it that same way. But, look, I love talking football with people who love football as much as I do, and Snoop Dogg shows football. There's a little more smoke coming out of Snoop's zoom than there is condoleezzi, but he loves football, so it's all good.

So, yeah, look, it's not for everybody. I think people go back and forth between the main broadcast and the B team, which I think ESPN just wants you watching one of their channels. But I think one thing is clear that Eli and I are having fun doing it. And so I think if they see us having fun, maybe the viewer has fun as well, so maybe that's why it's worked. But sure, it's a fun way to stay close to the game, but he and I like celebrating the positive accomplishment. We're not looking to rip anybody. We'd rather say, great play by the defensive back as opposed to what a horrible throw by the quarterback. Because we've been there, right? We've thrown all those interceptions.

You guys are amazing at it.

It's infectious, man.

Keep it up. Keep going. Thank you for your time today. Good to see you again, and maybe we'll see you down the road. You can watch my process up close and my incredible waggle.

I can't wait. I can't wait. Thanks for having me, guys.

All right, Peyton. Thanks for coming.

Very kind of you.

All right.

Bye, buddy.

Bye. How great is Peyton Manning? JB great one. Great guest.

Well, listen, this is the greatest thing about this podcast is you get to sit there and you get to talk to these heroes. I fan out on everybody we have on this myself.

You're a hero.

Well, but present company definitely excluded. When are we going to have a chance to talk to Peyton Manning and be like a little boy, asking him all these questions?

Now that I'm older, I'm actually a fan.

I was always a fan of his. Always, always. I love the way he did a, I thought he was really funny, but B, I love the way he played football, and then C, when he did get injured. And came back from it and won a Super Bowl. That was fucking rad.

Was that the neck? Will the neck injury, yeah.

And people were worried he talked about it. He kind of downplayed it. People were worried about whether he'd be able to throw that well again and stuff.

And he really gets hit. Is that it?

And it just sean, it kind of goes to what you were talking about, like having that whatever that thing is of being a leader. He's got so much confidence in his own ability to bounce back and not to just walk around, but to bounce back and win a Super Bowl. Yeah, I know exactly how that feels. Yeah, I guess you do. Hey, you know the song. I like short shorts. Does it apply to I guess do you like shorts?

Is that underwear?

Is that what we're wearing today?

These are my little golf shorts, my.

Little gray do you want me to.

Wear darker ones today, or is this.

Shades good or just longer ones?

Will and I hosted a couple of friends of ours that are members at another golf course here in Los Angeles.

One of whom is a big friend of the show, has done two episodes, a live episode, and in studio.

And so Will had the idea yesterday that we should show up and intimidate them by wearing matching outfits. And so we we did did blue pants and a white shirt, white shoes, white hat.

Can you say who it is or no.

Unimportant. But now we're going to their course today. Their course allows shorts. It's that guy. So we're going to wear some shorts today, it looks like. Will. Yes.

So these are the light gray. I also have a bit of a darker gray short.

Do you have any that are your size?

No, they all came in a boys medium.

Yeah. So why don't we rethink the shit now? Sit back down. We got it. Yep, there it is.

And the granamals is that you match the top.

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