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Hello, everybody, welcome to Episode 304 of Spin Checketts, presented by Pinkard from our friends at New Amsterdam Vodka here on the barstool sports podcast Family.

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It's Halloween week, Halloween weekend here. We got some tricks, we got some treats. But let's first say hi to a couple of goblins, producer Mikey Grealy. Any plans for the big weekend? I know covid ruined it for everybody, but anything. Sheikhan No specific plans.

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Halloween this weekend. I knew Biz was going a little extra today. Are you? On the other hand, you promised us a good Halloween costume because you got the long hair. So I'm excited to see your Instagram and Twitter this week.

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Right? You did. What else is that? I don't know any parties to go to. I was it was all, whoa, whoa, don't try to get out of this. I haven't been introduced yet, but don't even begin.

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This is too early. You know, this was all themed towards the Halloween.

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All right, we'll do it.

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We'll do a zoom Halloween party with all our Chiclets fans.

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NRA is going to host that all the time. Sudden. I would actually love that.

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Hey, all of a sudden, the big guy with the big hose from of quarantine just pops into the zoom like somebody. Yeah. Involved.

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Oh, the guy who got me. And what's his name? Guy who got buried with the player agents. I love Barry. All right, Barry, I love you.

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I actually did go down the basement today because I, I moved some pictures recently, so I knew where they were. And I dug through and found a couple of our old Halloween costumes I sent to the boys. Maybe we can spend them out on the Instagram a little later, but let's say hi to Paul Business. Bissonette, what's up, guy?

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Me before we met guys, I'm the coolest guy one day of the year and it's Halloween because of my fucking scarecrow tattoo. So I hope I get a lot of tweets about it pumping my tires about how amazing it is. Free cover charge. Now, let me give you a little bit of advice. Lay off the candy, OK? And that might seem very simple off the top here, but it's leading into something so wet. I go to the fucking dentist last week was I a little bit behind because of and I didn't think putting myself in that environment necessarily right away.

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So I missed my like, what do you do? Um, every three months checkup, six months.

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I think you get your teeth cleaned. OK, OK. In maybe check for cavities.

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So I went about eight to nine months so she goes looking around, you know, nothing out of the ordinary.

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A few like. Oh like that was a little sensitive here. There. Well she proceeds to tell me I have ten fucking cavities to reassure the public there wasn't this ten.

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I know you mean. What do you mean buddy. What do you. I wash your teeth with Diet Coke and use licorice to floss.

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If anybody knows me and watches me brush my teeth, I do it for about ten fucking minutes.

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It's a crazy fucking truth. Do you floss? I floss with those plastic things.

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So I think it's so that's not how you're supposed to correctly floss. You got to use real floss.

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Ari, you're telling the this thing stopped me for getting cavities. Yeah, buddy, I'm using a G-string because all my. Plus one 10 carries out of the gate second assessed 10 cavities. That maybe the trashiest thing you've ever told me about yourself.

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OK, so so obviously my wheels are spinning.

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So then I get to go like a horrible couple of days, man. OK, OK, so then I got the bill and I see it's 2500 bucks for for future.

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I haven't done this yet. Right.

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So then I'm going down in business. These world people. Well then I start, I'm like should I go get a second opinion. Like maybe they were a little slow.

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They need a few extra funds and they're like, this guy is a fucking old hockey player. Look at his nose, look at his greasy. Look at them. We could fucking sandbag this guy.

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So I think I almost have to go for a second opinion to hear someone tell me I'm in the double digits for cavities, considering I went three months over my last visit or beyond Antin months to like more twenty three.

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I think you're lying about the last time you went and so that's the only explanation. Or the guy got it completely wrong. I was looking at somebody else's teeth x ray.

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Well here's a little guy. Okay, so here's where you're wrong because my ex-girlfriend used to work at the place.

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OK, so there was another theory, but I'm not going into that. They were probably using fluoride with like acid in it once you can connection. Pressure.

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OK, so everyone's probably having a good chuckle, but there's no way this whatever. Now if in fact I go to someone, they're like, yes, you do have ten cavities. It's it's you know, it's it's remarkable. What have you been doing over Corindi to warrant ten cavities.

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And we recommend you start flossing with a G-string. I said I said, has it ever been done in one set? And they're like, no, no, you can't do it.

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You can't do ten one set. So if in fact I have ten, I think my punishment should be to go back there and get all ten and one set. I recommended five at most.

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I thought I thought three was kind of the max. That's that's a little one that I've had horrible works on the floor.

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Is that serious right now? And I'm having the biggest chuckle about all this. And this is my mouth we're talking about.

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Well, dude, your mouth is an absolute pigsty of a place, and I can't believe that that's actually the news. You got to imagine. You go to the second opinion. He's like, you got fourteen. You have to pull all your teeth dentures.

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If the guy goes up on the cavities, well, I'll be one step closer to have a nice teeth, teeth like Avery.

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So, yeah, I mean, I don't know. Let's put up a poll. What would be hard for me, accomplishing the Tour de France or me going ten cavities in one sitting. So I thought the boys would have a good chuckle at my expense regarding that subject. I mean, am I embarrassed that I have ten cavities? Yeah, I am. But I'm also embarrassed that I've shit my pants before and even did it as an adult in an airport.

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I'm embarrassed about somebody else shitting my bed. I'm embarrassed about a lot of things, but you guys are like my buddy.

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So if you're going to share these things and also too busy, I had like I was starting to get a spot on my tooth. Of course you get old or whatever, smoking, drinking, tea, coffee for four years, whatever.

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You can actually brush your teeth too hard and you could literally brush the enamel right off them, which is what I did.

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I always thought had a brush was better and you literally fucking take the enamel right off. So you they said sometimes you could just switch to a soft in the brush and just get an electric.

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But you're telling me I've brushed ten cavities, one of my teeth not brushed enamel off my nose. But it's so, so there's like four potential theories here. But I mean, ultimately, I hope that I wasn't being sandbagged and that's actually what it costs to replace ten cavities. And it's not fourteen. And I and I do it one sitting and we all have a big laugh about it if I make it through it. Yeah, I had to get a root canal and my guy, my guy couldn't do it, so he had to refer me to another guy, these motherfuckers turn a pandemic.

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You know, when you get a medical bill sometimes put off to the side, it's not a credit card bill. These motherfuckers after like a month sent me to a collection agency in the middle of the hour.

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So I was like, oh, for that kind of well, I paid that motherfucker in person. I was like, oh, I know this isn't your call to the secretary. I was nice. I says, Can you pass up the ladder? It's absolutely ridiculous to put people's names or send an e-mail credit agency like six, you know, during a six month, eight month pandemic. You don't know what people's fucking financial situations are. Granted, I didn't change that.

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That's that's the point.

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We've got our like a little one of those camps, the goalposts put on your forehead for all these crazy InterAction's Arrigo's full karena dentists I image.

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I am interested to see what you pull out of your throat for Halloween because I feel like that was a promise. Now I think we should mention, considering we're done having a little chuckle at my expense, that on Saturday, sadder note, we're not going to be talking for the next month, we're going on a four month hiatus, although we will be rolling out some interviews for you guys. We have some great ones lined up. A is going to get mad at me because you're going to be bugging me about it.

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I thought we got Alex talk. He was awesome. He was over an hour, talked about. We went all over the place today. We have a special guest and I'll let you tie that up our.

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Well, of course, we got to say hi to what we've been talking about it. Oh, shit. I got I got OCD, so I got to. Oh, you didn't say hi to me. I thought he was frozen.

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The only one was hasn't froze so far tonight. I know. I did say Bui's from the top of the show. We have some treats for you and that means we get a huge guest tonight. EP Forty Pettersen, the Vancouver Canucks. We had a blast talking to this kid. I mean, you know, I love when we get the Europeans is just a different style about a different swag or whatever. I had a lot of fun talking to this kid.

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Did you guys or not?

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I had a blast. This guy gave me the business, too.

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You'll hear he had no he had no fear whatsoever in trapping me.

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I respected the hell out of that. I also think that he didn't know what was going on as he got in. And you could tell he kind of loosens up. And then I really notice he make the video, I think will show his personality a little more than maybe what you're about to hear.

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But the video about our Instagram and all that, I just had a fun time because this is an interesting cat. So we talked about a bunch of different things I think you'll enjoy getting.

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We'll get to that a little later. But first, we're actually going to kick off a little baseball tonight. I know that's not frequent on Checketts, but the World Series Game six Tuesday night.

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I mean, I trash baseball a time. I goof on it, but I love the World Series. I still watch it. We got a great game before that. Tampa Bay won late. I've never seen anything this stupid in a lifetime of watching World Series. What's his name? Kevin Cash, manager of Tampa. He pulls Snell. The guy gives up a second hit in the sixth inning, five and a third innings. He's pitched seventy three pitches.

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He pulls the guy after to give up a single the next three batters while struck out twice that night oh six with six case. And because of these fucking analytics that driving up the wall, that's half the reason I hate fucking baseball pulls the guy first.

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I just go up to one, end up winning three one one of the series and yeah, I can pay.

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So son if I can have and I hate Dodgers, but just an awful, awful managerial decision.

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What one of the worst. I can't even remember something is dumb. And and when you talk about how people reacted, like you can listen to fans and like analysts after. But the most amazing thing I saw was Alex Rodriguez and David Ortiz were interviewing Bellinger.

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Is it Cody? Yeah. Codi don't you think that guy gets laid nely. Oh, my God. That's for another story.

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This guy is getting interviewed by these two Hall of Famers and they ask you, I think it was A-Rod said, what was your thought when you saw that they were pulling out now?

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And he started laughing his uncle, thank God we finally had a chance. And then Mookie said the same thing, like when he got is like, oh, maybe I'll actually get on base.

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It was. Analytics, the argument that everyone has on the other side is that analytics got this team with the lowest payroll in baseball.

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One of the lowest payrolls in pro sports to the to the World Series. And it gave them so much success in analytics is the major reason behind it now. So if you're going to you've got to dance with what got you there.

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And I think that I just butchered that saying, but no, I liked it.

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You know what I the fuck everyone else answered the one you brought, I don't know. But I think everyone knows what I I about that one.

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I think you should be able to do out. Fair enough.

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Well, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. That they're saying, well, why would I change what got us here. Well why would you change it? Why would you not pull this guy? Because he's the one of the best pitchers in baseball.

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He's grooving to hits. Seventy three pitches. When I was little, like nineteen ninety four, I was 11 years old. I don't remember who the World Series was, but I remember watching Nolan Ryan Baum. One hundred more hour fastballs. He'd throw one hundred and forty pitches some nights like.

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You can change the regular season and how you save guys arms with analytics, I understand, but when you got your age back in the day, dude, the A's used to go nine nine nine innings pitched complete game winners in the fucking World Series. And this dude was willing to do that. This now is probably sick to his stomach. He's probably had tears in his eyes when he got the hook.

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There's an old thing of Mike Mussina, Mike BCT yelling at I don't know if Joe Torrey somewhere in New Orleans get the fuck back in the dugout when he saw him coming out now, didn't do that.

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But Jesus, man, what a shitty way to end that game and that series, because I thought there was going to be a game seven. I took Tampa two. I took them game to game. Ferrara So sticking with it, I always I thought I was too low in the series on just them and three and two and four. So it sucked. And the analytics part I do agree. I guess a team that's paying the whole team less than they're paying Mooky, that's the only way they get to where they are.

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But at some point you got to look like man to man. This guy's a fucking lion on the mound. He don't want to be taken out.

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Yeah. And like also game six, I get why they were doing the low pitch counts for like the regular season just to kind of get everyone in and as you mentioned, to kind of save arms. But like they're not gonna save it for at that point, you just had a shortened season and these guys are used to throwing more and going back to those interviews. Is it Mookie Betts? Is it interesting guy to like? I didn't realize how big of a stud this guy was on the field and tall Sox, sorry to hear he's like rolling his eyes right now, but he said he goes the way that the other guy was pitching.

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Snell He's like, we just like we couldn't see it. Like we couldn't track it at all. And he goes, that's just the way the night goes. And when they get Ace is on like that, like like you said, they were already over to the next three guys and all of which might have been strikeout. So like he said, they had a big chuckle over that. But yeah, that was I up turn on the game after that and then that Mookie Betts made it three three one by hitting that Jack.

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I didn't catch all the action. I saw Twitter, our Twitter excuse me, light up. And that's why I started watching. So interesting breakdown.

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And the guy loose and the guy that they brought in had given a run up in six straight games.

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It was it was it would be like it would be like killing a penalty with a minute twenty to go in game seven of the Cup finals or game six if you want to get real accurate. And I happened to be on a team with Nick Lidstrom and the coaches.

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I hold on. Hold on, Lidstrom.

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Let's get Whitney out there. And you threw me on the pick and immediately the other team scored because of something I did. And you'd be like that was the analogy.

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Someone made the analogy on Twitter to that it was the equivalent of pulling Tretiak and the 80 Olympic game. And I thought, I mean, I know that circumstance are a little different, but it was along the same lines in mentioning pitch counts. They fucking weren't even a thing. I don't know. Twenty years ago because I actually went to look up and speaking of Mookie, because that's a name that triggers many generations of Sox fans. Now, going back to the eighty six World Series, Mookie Wilson was at bat when they ended up coming back in that epic Game six.

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And I looked up because there was some controversy about Clemens coming out of that game with I know you are fucking down if you're born, you baby whatever.

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Oh, I followed Clemens shit.

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And Clemens Indranil, he said he want to stay in. The coach said that no, he wanted to come out, but I looked up. He went seven innings, gave up four hits to like it wasn't like, OK, it wasn't like a piss poor decision, but I couldn't find a pitch. I was looking at the box with was even a pitch, a pitch count on a box score from 1986. And now it's this thing that these guys go way too deep on, like almost like the fuck.

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Here's how fast the ball comes off a bat when the guy hits it like that, just like does the Joe average six pack neat and all that shit. It just shows also my theory.

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And on my theory, I guess the theory, I don't think anything comes close to football, but if anything does, it's baseball in terms of how much a manager can like a coach can actually make like change the game.

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Football is number one, the plays they're calling ball. I think that coaches matter so much of football, baseball that just shows this guy.

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I mean, there had to be there had to be a bench coach who had to be players in that team thinking, what is this guy doing right now?

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What's he doing? What's he doing? And then I also read if he were to get fired, which I don't think you'd fire him. A horrible decision. But look at the season they had like he'd get hired the next day. So the guy's a good coach. I just think he lives and dies by numbers.

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We got some pizza. Yeah, it's a little game seven Whoopsie Daisy.

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And we have this ball, a new boo, a new boo king for my four commissioners of sports because Rob Manfred got it hot and he seemed pretty fucking rattled when it happened. Man, this guy I don't know if he was drinking during the game or if he was nervous. And that's not even close to a full house. He was getting booed pretty good. And it seemed like it really affected him best.

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Did you catch that was somebody tweeted out that he was drunk. I was like, what the fuck is going on? Everything I'm missing, all this crazy stuff at this game mean the commissioner was loaded. Somebody said that.

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But I don't know if there was confirmation. Maybe the boos rattled them. Not much. But Jesus. Maybe get a pep talk with Batman, that guy eats booze and then he loves Batman's, got like the Hawks, they're like, Yeah, yeah, let's go, let's hear the other side for me.

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And then you got like they had a pull Justin Turner from the game because his positive test for Kobe come out during the game and then he goes back on the field as mass takes it off. I mean, I guess he's been with those guys the whole time. But just like I don't I mean, kudos to baseball and the Dodgers for winning, but what a cluster fuck that guy was there because people went nuts online.

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I was like, OK, time to sign off. Yeah.

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Anyways, moving right along, hockey in Massachusetts was a big story since the last episode. There were clusters of cases allegedly linked to hockey. Again, they say allegedly because I don't know how it was proven. I guess there were one hundred and eight confirmed cases out of like 50000 registered players, less than a quarter of a percent, depending on who's doing the math. So the powers that be here in Massachusetts put a two week stoppage to all youth.

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Recreational hockey delays my cold weather. Bauer exercises for now, but a lot of people in the hockey community here in Massachusetts not happy. I mean, I didn't get it wet myself. Like, OK, what's two weeks going to do here? It's it's just it just seemed kind of too specific. I don't know. I don't know what I know you had some.

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Yeah, I've been it was frustrating for me to see because you know, that these kids are for the most part, what I've been told is everyone was was doing a good job in terms of you're not going to the rink if you feel sick. The basic thing where you have Rostas being given out at the games by parents, you.

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You see a bunch of other things going on that are they're fine and basketball in the state where it's indoors as well, and people are rubbing up against each other more than hockey like that hasn't been shut down.

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And if it's two weeks, whatever. But if they end up doing where they're pushing the goalpost back and then it's two more weeks and all of a sudden all these kids who they can't go to school, they can't play hockey. I mean, what the fuck?

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Like what are you doing it to kids that don't don't deserve for this to be happening to them. So certainly there's people out there who are irresponsible and maybe are issues in terms of why there are spikes.

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I mean, that's that's a that's a conversation that is way more in depth than what we're going to have. But in terms of like everyone being affected, like a bunch of kids playing hockey, I don't I don't really see how that's fair for a million other things are going on. So if it's two weeks, that'll be it. If it's not, then you start thinking, well, we got to do something. We've got to figure something to help these kids out, get get them back playing where they should be.

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It's healthy. You can live your life, you exercise, be with your friends. You can't just shut these kids lives off. Yeah. Like the two weeks feels arbitrary. It's like everybody's going to go home and quarantine for that two weeks, you know what I mean? Like, the fucking things are still bouncing around. But anyways, yeah, hopefully the kids here in Massachusetts can get back to playing in Massachusetts enough to go to other states, which I know all the.

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That's the instinct. Let's go somewhere else. And then, you know, you do run the risk of bringing an infected kid somewhere else, which is fucking, you know, and a fucking cluster fuck from the get go anyways. Regardless of what Major League Baseball Analytics said Tuesday night, there are some numbers you just don't want to mess with. In twenty nineteen alone, one hundred and twenty six people were killed and six hundred and thirty five people injured in collisions at railroad crossings from twenty fourteen to twenty nineteen.

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There were seven hundred and ninety fatalities involving motor vehicles at railroad crossings. By law, trains have the right of way at all railroad crossed crossings. That's why our friends at Nizza and the FAA, the Federal Railroad Administration, want you to be very heads up when approaching a railroad crossing. Trains cannot swerve, stop quickly or change direction to avoid collisions. A train traveling at 55 miles per hour takes a mile or more to stop. So when approaching a railroad crossing, slow down, look and listen for a train on the tracks, especially at pass of crossings.

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You know, it's true that there's no excuse that's worth risking your life at a highway. Real, real grade crossing. So be sure to stop because trains can't.

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All right.

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So that before I was up decided to dash back to even, you did a little cleaning up there. Speaking of numbers, how about fucking Wayne or Wayne Gretzky put his house on the market? I don't know how long it's put on there for his one. And in California. Twenty three million.

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Oh, is that the one on Sherwood that caused that? They just play that? I believe so. When I first fense Barca, can you guys make the twenty three million on this trip is twenty three. Twenty three sheets.

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It's gorgeous. It's like in a state I think it's the the house were in the pool. They filmed the scene from I was standing in line. What's the band called. Nickelback Rocks.

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Oh. Boggs's favorite band parties with them and stuff. That's like the one day I'll listen to them because I got my Halloween tattoo. That's cool.

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But the bandana I threw was standing and I know you got that tattoo, but you got that tattoo back in the day when you're like Halloween's the sickest night of the year.

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I go out and rip it like now I'll get into every club because I got a tattoo for, say, this then that you grew better than triable or barbwire. Come on. That's a style barbed wire around the bicep. If you have that right now, guys, everyone at home, you laugh and looking down at your bicep with a barbed wire. But, you know, you had a couple of years.

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You were the boss. I know word of a lie.

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I think Danja already has a tattoo where it's barbed wire, but we're meeting the buyer.

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It's tribal. He's got to get to the hole. He's got the collab, man. He's got is he a wellon boy?

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Oh, my goodness. I really I mean, the transfer boy, he's a well and boy coming on.

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He's a funny fucker, too, I don't know if he'd let it fly on the podcast given like that, like any time anyone comes on now, they get they try to get canceled, but little a little little nudge from what the fuck is going on.

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You guys don't even understand what it's like to deal with certain people nowadays. We're dropping interviews, the person who's unreal, great time. And then all of a sudden we point out that he's going to come on the path you're going to, but you're going to hear it in a couple of minutes. And he's got people coming at them online who say BS in the podcast are misogynistic and racist. That's fucking bullshit. But these people are such pigeons. Last realized, you know what, I'm not going to listen to these losers online, I had a lot of fun doing this podcast with these guys and I'm going to let the interview roll because nothing nothing happened.

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And those people aren't with the podcast host I was with. They aren't what these people say they are. So fuck you. And you're trying to make our lives more difficult. But in the end, you don't matter again, because we have another awesome guy who comes on and tells his story, talks about his love of hockey and enjoys it. So take a hike and beat it.

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These people are such losers online, just ignoring things you don't want. You know, you don't like it, don't watch it.

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But yeah, a lot of people because they know how are we. Well, I was going to hop in.

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It makes it a little difficult because like we're trying to give every fan base what they want. We want to interview their favorite players. We want to get them on here. And like in this case, this kid is like a sweetheart. This kid would not harm a fly, you know what I'm saying? And like a lot of people from the Vancouver fanbase who listen to the podcast, you know, they wanted him. His captain came on. So he comes on.

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We have a great one. We wanted to tease it a little bit for for all you Vancouver fans who listen to the show. And then Mike PD's got to feel like go online and see the people are like they're fucking kids are they're burning their kids jerseys and they're going out to get, you know, who's won or something. And it's just like it's just very excessive. Like, listen, have we maybe said some things on the podcast that have upset people, but like, I don't know, misogynistic, racist, like those are some pretty fucking lazy terms to be thrown out.

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Like based on what what everybody who's listening right now hears from the show, like, guys, I used to talk about my sex life, like, I guess if that makes you misogynistic because, like, they were like silly, ridiculous stories like, well, I guess I'm like sorry for not being sorry about telling them in the past. I'm clearly living a different life now. We're like behind me.

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But even if they weren't, you're just telling, like, stories of your life that people are interested in. Like, these people are such losers. Don't listen like. All right.

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Well, no, but but right. So like work but also in the same breath is like, you know, Minara spent a bit more time maybe on social media than wit. I'm trying to siphon through, like what our fan base likes. I'm trying to like, collect like, OK, yeah. It seemed like people really enjoy this. Let's maybe try to do a little bit more of that. Like Grinnell, you're going down the you know, the streaming because guys, as Peterson talks about in the interview, like he wants to do streaming, Nathan McKinnon just started streaming all these younger guys.

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This is a good way for, like, our audience to connect with those guys through. Like, I don't play much video games and I do. I get spanked. But Grinnell is on there grinding it out. So we're just we're just trying to, like, run a tighter ship than maybe we did at the start. But we're still going to let it fly. We're still going to have fun. And if it means we're not get your favorite players on, then fuck that because I am fucking changing.

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And that JD Berkus dude can lick my ball bag. I don't give a shit. No, I'm dead serious. I don't care. Like, did you do the research?

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Like, do you know anything? Do you know we shut the show down when when things erupted as far as the Black Lives Matter movement, like guys like when that should come, I'd say I'm fairly liberal and I'm from Canada when that shit's happening down there. I was I was a wreck. Like, it gives me anxiety. So, like, we care about these social matters that some people are letting it fly like that we don't care about. No.

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And we're trying to handle it even more and more maturely as we go. We go on because we know we do have a bit of a voice and there are younger people listening to the show. And we have to get to a subject and a little bit here. That's a bit of a Debbie Downer. But we're like there's certain things that I won't say anymore. I don't use the word kills anymore. I try not to. I told her not to take out a fox and I said, I'm trying to move.

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I'm trying to move my line for you. But there's some things I can't reason with. I got JD fucking Berkus lick my fucking Nakib sack. I'm done with you. Exactly.

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I'm glad you mentioned Zem. I didn't I don't follow him. I didn't even hear about him till like the last week he wrote, I'm less upset or mad about Aliased Pettersen for going on chick. What, you would need a name then. I am at at the institution of hockey for letting chick flicks become a thriving part of the culture in the first place.

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So now here's the market, decided hockey. The institution of hockey didn't let us in. There was a fucking market. We filled the void and that's what fucking happened. So put it in your fucking fucking pipe and smoke it.

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Believe me, it would be better off to not have to deal with this shit, am I? Just hide out in this little corner here. That's why we do podcast's. This is not being shoved down your throat. Ladies and gentlemen, you got to click to get here. So that's why we do it on the barstool platform, because we're allowed to let it fly where it's in a SportsNet or whatever major company that we work for. They say, you can't say that, fuck you.

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I'm going to say what the fuck I want that shit to like. What the fucking the holy trinity. Racist, sexist, homophobic, which doesn't apply to us. And a lot of it is just old, like Dave said, some stupid shit over the years, like old bad jokes about attempts at jokes. We're off to go over them now. And they just I think most of the people who say bastard are just bitching about Dave for the most part.

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I'm obviously loyal to David and fucking great for me, but they just those pieces that are written oh look at this thing from The Daily Beast. Like, listen, I was a fucking media major. Those are the epitome of slanted hit pieces. Half the people who write them don't even work for that outlet. They get hired specifically to write about the worst parts of Boston that they think and spin it that way. And that and those are the stories that people tag to strangers.

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So the only impression they have of Boston is some fucking six year old Daily Beast article that was designed to make us look like shit in the first place.

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So whatever we said and all in all, we it ended, though I think you'll enjoy the interview made the right decision. All right.

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Well, we got we got a little ways to get to before. Oh, yeah. A shitload of silence, boys. Lot, lot more. I know a lot of the free agents went, but now it kind of felt good a lot off my chest, by the way.

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I know we ran that a little bit there, boys, but this is the shit that, like, I'm fucking done. Deal with it. All right, let's move it over.

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The signs. Like I said, most of the unrestricted free agents are off the board. They're onto the restricted free agents arbitration. There's only been one hearing so far of a Detroit full with Tyler Bertuzzi was awarded a one year, three and a half million dollar deal. He had twenty one goals, twenty seven assists last year and seventy one games use the first draft to have a hearing. Either you guys ever have arbitration or hear some horror stories about arbitration?

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I've heard horror stories in a sense that guys go in there and the team will say the meanest shit possible. They'll make fun of his small, they'll make fun of his dog at home. They'll they'll bring up, like, how shitty the car is.

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He's driving, although maybe not that, because then they could pay him more money for a nicer one. You know what I'm saying? It's not pleasant.

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And I think a lot of times there's been stories or there's there's there's a history of of guys like never wanting to play for that team again after they hear the way the GM or whoever's there kind of talks about them. So it's a business. But nobody, I think, enjoys certain players don't necessarily enjoy going to arbitration unless they get an enormous payday from it, which used to never happened.

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Maybe it happens a bit more now, Mr. Arbitrator, this guy can't play on the first line because the first line center complains about how bad his breath is during games. So we cannot pay him first line money.

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Who got a huge arbitration has a bigger deal, Your Honor. He does not shave. Is not he is not said. Have you seen in the barbwire? Have you seen the barbed wire and tribal tattoo on his arm? Your Honor?

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Either way, yes.

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The clothes from Abercrombie, Your Honor. Abercrombie could prove if a bertozzi Dobies.

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I mean, he doesn't have to like this. I've got a nice little bump in pay out, imagine.

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Yeah. No, he's he's a heck of a player. He's got that like old school throwback look to. I think I think I saw him lying as this girl posted a picture. They got his mouth of him smiling as made as one of the masks for covid. They're buzzing around. So he's a he's a funny dude. And he's Todd Bertuzzi nephew, right? Correct.

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Half a Twitter thinks it's his son every time he does something on the ice. But no, it's it's his nephew.

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So moving right along the Senate as a team, we've been I don't mildly stroganoff a little bit kind of brown. He avoided arbitration, signed a three year deal, ten point eight million, comes out to three point six million a year. Chris Tierney also avoided arbitration, saying for two years, seven million, three and a half million dollar cap hit. He came over in the Eric Carlson bounty that trades looking better and better for auto every day. And they also signed unrestricted free agent Alex Glienicke to a one year, one point zero five million dollar deal.

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This sends man, it could be pretty frisky next year, whatever it is.

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I tell you what, good for him. I feel that like he's a guy where like he's high octane. He needs to fire on all the skill cylinders. We saw a guy like Anthony. Do Claire go there and do what he did with a players coach in a new environment and maybe where they're allowed to like, you know, play a little bit more of their style of play? And, you know, China has been bouncing around a little bit here.

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And I think given where that team's at and the fact that maybe there's not that pressure to win now, he could, you know, reinstill that confidence in his game, which I mean, if you don't have it and you're I mean, to when you're that highly skilled, if you don't have your confidence, like you're pretty much, I guess, useless, because as far as a depth player, he just doesn't have those types of tools. So a perfect non risk deal for the Ottawa senators.

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I hope he does well. He's a great kid. He's never really been able to to stick anywhere and and kind of make make his imprint on any organization. Excuse me. So I just kind of compared to the nuclear situation where he's a guy who went there, found that and he was the same type of guy, like he just couldn't land on his feet. And in your organization, he went to Seoul goalie. Hope you hope you're on your feet, pal.

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I also like Connor Brown, man, that must have been tough to get traded from Toronto. I mean, Toronto has got all these these young pieces and goes over to Ottawa and, you know, last year a disaster for them.

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But he was good. That guy skates, he competes. So I like that signing a lot. And I think that Ottawa Ottawa's they're going to surprise now. I mean, I think they're still going to be.

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Not they're not a playoff team, but they're way better than last year. I mean, you keep seeing names added, you keep seeing guys signing and it's definitely not going to be a walk in the park most nights for whoever's playing against them, like the way it was, you know, this past season.

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Yeah, you'd be betting on them a lot next season, whatever it is they think, too.

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I glanced over his Deltron scored 30 in this league. I think he had twenty nine in Montreal one year. Like I know like it was one year ago, 30.

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But we can move on. I'll back you up, but said the 94 World Series a little while ago, but that was the strike lockout.

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Stay with us. I swear to God, I was like, something sounds off about 90 for all I can think is the Rangers.

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Yeah, the combination of that and between that and between that and Alex coming up, you're going to get by the way, I just finally got his name right for the first time. I like the EP 40 that's off the glass and that's his new name to me.

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Penny Saved is also had a couple of guys that avoided arbitration, Sam Rhinehart, Buffalo. They agreed to a one year deal, 5.2 million. They also avoided arbitration with goalie L.A., Omak, Heerey up for one year, two point six mil Rhinehart. That's a pretty good price tag for him. Five five point two. I'll chime in on this one.

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I feel like they're like this. His last contract was just prove it contract. I felt he proved it to a certain degree. There was that one incident about him giving up on a play earlier in the season that got amplified. So that seems to be fresh in people's minds as far as maybe that's why they didn't. I think it's new GM in there. We've come to this situation where halls over here. So like, I don't know, maybe him and Jack had this amazing chemistry where we use some of that money in order to keep him around.

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And also, I think Reinhart's going to play on the second line and not to see he's going to be playing with shlubs. But I think what they're seeing is a can you drive your own mind? Like, can you even take a step up from there? And then I think that warrants him probably getting what he might have been expecting to get this off season. But given with what's happened, I think five and a five point two is a great number.

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I know that him and Eichel are great buddies. I think that if he's able to prove it again, I think that I think they should keep him. I think he's I think he's a decent peace. He's a good room guy. I think there's yes. There's some things to improve on. But once again, like this team all around has not been very good. So it's not like that's a that's a piece you might want to keep around, considering you haven't had many better pieces than him.

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Who who's risk the line in the cycle? That's it. It was going to I could think of over a decent amount of time who have been consistent enough in that organization.

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And he will be a restricted free agent again after this one year deal that he's averaging just under twenty two goals a year. So obviously another guy, he has a good year.

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I mean, what to fully get, what to fully get first. He basically is like a four.

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What do you get. Four and a half.

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But I'm thinking get more from an age standpoint where Ryan Reinhart's though what he's twenty four point twenty five soon.

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I think he's he's going to get your twenty goals. He's going to get you fifty points. And then that's if he makes that leap all of a sudden maybe it's thirty and it's and it's 65, 70 points.

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I like him as a player and that team struggle. You can't get rid of guys like that right now. I mean, if the Sabres ever gotten to the playoffs and they were a deeper team and a better team and they got in the medical playing center on the top line, and then Rhinehart turned into a really even a better player. And he's kind of like he could be like David Crouch. I know that's crazy praise and I know that he's got a long way to go.

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But, you know, I don't think he'll ever be a ninety point guy. But fuck, great. He's had years. We had seventeen points. The regular season led the team in scoring in the playoffs. Like, this guy's really good and he's young. I think that there's no way Buffalo could could lose a guy like this at this point.

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So then you got Halsy on the first line, then you got you've got Skinner on the team as well. So let's see also how he does with maybe a little less focus on him, given that there's not a ton of depth up front. So maybe he thrives. I hope he does. He's a great guy in business. C, by the way, did not pay him for that appearance. So I hope you get your meal money at some point.

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All right.

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A few more songs to run through here. Let me know if you want to chime in. Colorado, I'm sorry.

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Khorosan restricted free agent Darvon Teebs, four year deal worth sixteen point four mil, four point one million dollar Kapit. I mean, I think this probably could have taken maybe shorter term and gamble on himself, but I think a birth was a bird in the hand was worth two in the bush to him. Would you agree with that. What in other words, like you could have maybe taken a two year deal and see how he did and got more money down the line, but opted for the security of a four year deal and then he make sixteen million.

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Take care of that. Well, he should be should be good to live and joyful enjoy of her happy life. I say a fun life. Take that back.

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I don't really understand why the islanders got rid of them. Maybe we'll learn more. But I like his game. I like how he skates.

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He looked awesome in the playoffs and now he's making very fair. No, I think for both sides, if he's going to be the player he showed to be on the islanders this year, he could even maybe argue his little underpaid in four years. We'll see what happens.

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But I like them. Here we go. All right, rolling right along here, Vancouver's unrestricted free agent, Jake Ferritin, and two year deal, five point one mil comes out to two point fifty five dollars million kapit. Let's see Dallas san restricted free agent Dennis Kerrianne off because he really made a name for himself this past playoffs. Two year deal, five point one million comes out to just over two and a half million as well. By the way, heads up to our friends over T's and dot com.

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Your free agent tracker does not have this deal listed. So you might want to jump on that, let people know, because some people do do use that for work.

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It wasn't up there. Just a little heads up. Carolina signed restricted free agent Hayden flurried, two year deal, two point six mil. It's a one point three million. Kapit Jersey signed unrestricted free agent Dmitri Coolac off to a one year deal worth one point one five million with Winnipeg last year and Edmonton extended defenseman Chris Russell one year, one point to five mil. That deal kicks in at the twenty one 22 season. So a lot of one and two year deals.

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This you mentioned Arizona was in the news this week. First off, friend Elliot Friedman did say on a positive note, Shane Doan may be back with the oats in some capacity. I know. Obviously, people were sad to see him go the first time, but new ownership, new sheriffs in town. So hopefully Dorner will be back in the front office. Have you had any scoop on that regard or what?

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Oh, no, I haven't really reached out to excuse me. I haven't reached anyone to talk about that. I think the other news that came out, I think the same day, I believe right after Elliott Friedman tweeted that out, something else came up. So just been kind of focusing on how I'm going to talk about that on the podcast. Guys, it sucks. You want to get into it now? Yeah.

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Yeah, well, we'll jump right into it. Coyote's draft pick, Mitchell Miller, who they took in the fourth round, they didn't have any picks in the first three rounds. He had some very ugly shit from his past that came to the surface this week. He's, I believe, eighteen now. And he was fourteen in the eighth grade. He pled guilty in juvenile court to assault of a development of developmentally disabled black kid. Apparently him another student gave the kid a candy push pop that they had rubbed in a urinal.

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This Miller called them the vile N-word repeatedly for years, among other racially racist stuff, I guess I should say. And the victim's mom, Joanny Myia Cruthers, said he bashed the victim's head into a wall. She says he she thinks he pled guilty in part to keep that video from going public because it was kind of so awful to watch. Again, that was her the mother. She also said that Mila sent an apology letter to thirty one teens, but never one to her son.

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She said her son has never heard from him, never got an apology from them. When the court things went on, the magistrate had some harsh words for Mella, basically, but he felt he was the victim in the whole thing. And look, you know, every draft teams need to make sort of similar decisions, not about these particular circumstances, but there's a lot of shit on guys that they hear about. They have to verify. But this is some this is some tough stuff to read, man.

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It was really heinous stuff. And, you know, I know, I shit, I did it to fourteen wasn't always good, but this was still on a disk or a tape. And Sam Goody, this was some some some rough stuff man. And I know people talk about second chances and stuff like that, but it's like, OK, you don't have to give this person a second chance. Is this juice worth the squeeze? You know, I don't know, man.

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It's it's behavior of such a level. It's like. Right. That's not something maybe three years later it just goes away. If I'm a GM, I might have taken a pass as well. But with Biz, I'm not sure who wants that.

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You know, I'm going to hop in because guys like it doesn't sound like at all that he like he was remorseful for it because anyone who was remorseful for this would have handled it a completely different way. And for the for the the judge to say that to him, for the sins of the father, the judge say sorry.

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I apologize. All you're fine, I just wondered, what did the judge say to them at the basically the other the other kid who was a part of this was like crying in the courtroom and was completely devastated. And clearly it understand deep down to the core that what he did is was a heinous crime. The judge didn't feel that from Miller at all. And for for a judge to maybe go over it. His way to say that during sentencing, sentencing, I mean, there usually judges for a reason, like they know what the fuck they're doing.

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They gotten to that level where people trust their overall opinion and assessment of all situations. So I'll that you hop in and say, yeah, from the magistrate judge, whatever they got.

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Mitchell, I'm not sure you still get it. I don't think you like being where you are, but I still don't think you've put yourself in the shoes of not just the one victim, but numerous victims. No one should come to school and feel humiliated or intimidated.

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If this is what you do in school, I wonder what you do outside of school. You're supposed to be in your best behavior in school. So if this is an example of your best behavior, I wonder what your worst behavior is.

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I don't have a sense of real remorse, but I do feel that you feel sorry for yourself in, you know, that kind of aligns with the apology to the thirty one teams and not the kid that, you know, assaulted and victimized them.

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But listen, from the coyotes standpoint, and I can't speak for anyone inside the organization, I don't know who made the pick. I don't know why. I mean, I believe they they released a statement saying that partly also because they've been they've been harping on the diversity thing, which is a good thing. Right. With Xavier being hired as the the the president and then to go out to do this, that's a you know, it's very contrasting there.

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And people were calling them out on it where the organization said we felt that like considering this is something that we're looking so much into, that we would be the team that would be able to like like clearly rehabilitate this person until where he's completely clean his image.

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And that is that person that did that. Whatever that he did no longer exists, not even like a speck on the fucking radar. And to hear so many different examples as to maybe like he genuinely deep down to the core, didn't understand what he did and why it was so wrong, not only the abuse side of it, just like the racist side of it. So I guess I'll leave it at this. If a fourteen year old person makes a mistake even as grave as this, do I believe that they should be canceled forever if they show remorse and understand what they did was wrong and to the core, to the core, and even maybe even go as far as to like go and talk in front of kids at school and understand that why why this is a problem, why this can't exist?

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I don't know. I'm not saying I think that that would be a good way to start, like get ahead of it where you can kind of like pay your debt to society. And of course, the kid he did it to in the family, of course, that's like numero uno. But then to go show them, this is how I've learned from it and this is what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to use my horrible example as as you know, this is why it's bad.

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Look at on the big what was supposed to be the biggest day in my life, getting drafted to the NHL, the whole it's national news about what I did. Right. Yeah, those very well said and and and that's that's an example in itself for every person listening to understand that you're caught, there's consequences to your action, especially when the what the act it gets is so grave is what what this was. And this I believe that it's fair that this kid is carrying this burden at 18 years old because of what he's done.

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And maybe in what we're hearing is the lack of remorse and what he actually did. So at that point in time, I'm thinking, no, I don't think he's truly learned from that horrible act and how it may have affected that other person. And the fact that I mean, was he special needs? What's the term? Yeah, I know. It's you got to be careful. Tretton had words you could say, well, I'm not trying to be offensive.

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I know. I know. I know.

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I'm not developmentally disabled is right. When they said he was basically about four years behind. So when he was 14 at the time. So he had, I guess, the development of the ten year old.

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OK, so it's just like it was just hard to hear and like, you know, it's a tough one on the chin for the organization. There's no denying that if they felt that they talked to him, they truly believe that he is no longer that person.

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And that was their judgment at the time.

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Then then, hey, you've got to I would trust I would trust them if if it were true, though, that he, like, apologized to that kid. I mean, if that's true, then I don't know. He's never even, like, said anything to him in person or on a letter. Yeah, some that does. This is horrible to read. I mean, listen, man, if this kid doesn't feel bad for what he's done and actually, like, truly, truly understand, like, how mean and cruel what he did was, then he probably doesn't deserve a second chance because you said it best.

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If he can if he can go out and prove that he's a different human being, then I think everyone deserves a second chance.

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They say, I'll say I'll sum it up by saying this. I'm not going to argue with you if you think that he should never have the right to play in the NHL, given with where things sit as were presented in the media. But I'm not going to argue with you if you think that this kid deserves a second chance to show that he's not that person.

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Like, I just like well, you already said you could be the one to not give him the second chance. But if you're going to hate every single person that would, that's kind of where you got to maybe think I well, I disagree with that person on giving him a shot.

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But so hopefully hopefully, though, if anything, that's not that the kid even wants to hear it now, but he should get in touch with that guy and apologize and like just relating to like like me talking about it, like I work for the coyotes and like, there's a there's unbelievable people that work for the organization.

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And it just seems to have felt that like there's been a lot of not so positive things happening, like, yeah, I'm not going to cast any judgment on the inside other than the fact that I hope you're right on this one, because this seems I hope this is not as being portrayed in the media or as intense, because I don't think that necessarily is a great representation at this time. Just at this time. Yeah.

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And as far as a second chance, you know, no team is obligated to give him or any other chance if he did something went beat the drum. I'm sorry.

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No, that's right. I think we should also note we just had GM, Bill Armstrong, Bill Armstrong on. He had absolutely nothing to do with this pick because the news broke since that episode. But, you know, he was still with the blues. He had nothing to do with the draft. He wasn't able to deal with the draft. So I figured that's worth noting because he was a recent guest in Yamila did his counseling, his community service.

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But, you know, the jury's still out on actual remorse, I guess.

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So we can move right along here chugging along. Actually, you know what, boys?

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I think it's probably the time to send it over to Patterson, get a little levity in here. And we do want to let you know that this interview was brought to you by CrossCountry Mortgage America's crazy good mortgage company who makes it easy to get the financing you need. Fast go to skim lensed dotcom again. Beedi to learn more about your future home buying or refinancing experience and MLS three zero two nine Equal Housing Opportunity.

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My next guest is one of the bright young stars in the NHL. He's won Rookie of the Year at both the Swedish Hockey League and the National Hockey League while a rookie in Sweden. He also led the league in points in both the regular season and playoffs before winning the MVP of the playoffs as his team won the championship. And in his first two NHL seasons, he's tallied one hundred and thirty two points and one hundred thirty nine games and has been named to All-Star Games.

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Thanks so much for joining us on the podcast, Patison AKP. How are you doing?

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I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. Oh, it's my pleasure. So this is your very first podcast appearance?

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Yeah, it's my first podcast. I don't know. Yes, my first one.

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How about those intros? Those are nice little higher pump.

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I don't mind people, but the press corps is following this in the first place.

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Yeah. Awesome. So you're just a are you just a music guy on the way to the rank, things like that. You never listen to any podcasts. Are you just saying you never bet on one?

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I'm a big music guy. I listen to a lot of music, not country guy or and place a lot of country in the locker room.

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But I know best is going to be pissed that you said no country now. Yeah. Hear me and him being having a debate about that.

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He's not happy about me, your general head, which is OK because he says you belong in the circus now, not for any rude reasons, but he says you can juggle very well and you could ride a unicycle. Can you do both at the same time, though? Yeah, I can. Holy shit, this kid's the real deal.

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Give them the MVP. What is the beginning of you riding a unicycle and being able to juggle as well as doing it together? How did that all start? How old are you when that goes?

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How old was I out of the womb? Yeah, two years old.

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No, but maybe 12, 13. My dad was very good at going in unicycle and he I was listening to him a lot. I still do. And he told me if you get good at unicycle, you're going to have better balance at hockey. And I was like, I worked on it, I got good at it. And then I don't know why, but I start juggling. So one day I had three tennis balls. I spent like three or four days at the back yard back home in Oregon where I'm from, and spent three, four hours until I could do it and then also get good at it.

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I started doing with bowling pins. Oh, yeah, I mean, you're going to be like the red panda at the Rogers Centre between periods, they're going to have to pay you 20 million a year.

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No, I'm up for it. I would that would be unbelievable. The first ever player in NHL history to do that in between period entertainment. Yeah, I know.

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So, but get it with balloon pants. And then I added both together and. Yeah. My. My brother always chirping me about it, that I could join a circus whenever so. Yes, sir, you mentioned your dad and he drove a Zamboni when you were kids, you basically just skated every single day as much as you wanted as a kid.

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Yeah, I've been getting a lot. I mean, I come from a small town or village. I know you say it's it's three three thousand people lives there, so it's not bad at all. So, yeah, I know that has that somebody had the key to every door at the rink and basically all my childhood, it was school. That dropped me off at the rink, got home, had dinner, and then back to the rink for practice and bed time and the same thing all over again.

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So that's that's in the winter.

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Are you summers off or you skating the whole time? Summers. It was soccer growing up there. But as soon as the ice got back back home, I, I was there right away. But yeah, I played soccer and and hockey growing up.

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So do you follow all the drama in the British Premier League and all these high end soccer leagues?

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Yeah, I do. I'm a I'm a big fan of soccer and I watch it a lot. I don't have a. I don't follow it a lot nowadays because time difference and everything, and I don't have a favorite team, so I'm just a fan of the sport.

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OK, your typical typical Swede that speaks perfect English, and I know you guys take it growing up.

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Was it was it a little difficult for you two years ago, your rookie year? Have you pretty much been completely easy, easy speaking English for a while now?

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I was I was OK in English at school. I mean, I did. Like like high school, my only mindset was I'm going to do everything to pass the test because I want to because I want to play hockey and that's what the reporters need.

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Yeah, exactly. No, I think it's the same here.

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But I never passed or got asked to be interviewed. I know.

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So. So I think actually a person can. Tell you guys a story when I hear you guys get that opportunity. I guess my first development camp, I was not good at English at all, like. And he has a. Very funny story, one is basically telling me that I kind of like shrug him off and didn't want to talk to him because I was nervous talking about it. Guess I wasn't comfortable talking English yet. So but I learned quickly, like moving her here, English and everything so pretty.

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When you were a young kid, were there any Swedes that you modeled your game after? I mean, you could score and pasta equally good. I mean, I would say Fallsburg. I know he had probably a little more grit to his game, but who did you marry?

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First of all? Was Peter Forsberg just remember his. All old days back in modem where Arien play for two games. It was a very successful two games. I don't know if you've seen this. I actually had the privilege to see your last game in your career.

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Wow. Oh, my God. That was the seesaw the last period you were at that game. Yeah. You remember to get. I do.

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I remember I began to pizzas dash three absolute liability in his own end. But he did have a secondary assist on the power play. Was thrilled. Washboards three that's for sure.

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No, I was dash, I was dash three in the first period. And one of them and one of them I went to turn in my ankle, completely gave out and I hit the side of the skate and I fell and the guy grabbed it, threw it in front. It was like it was like a legit like at the first home game of the season. I'm an import. We lost like tonight before we got waxed the night before on the road.

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And I'm horrific. And I went and I retired after that period, the first period, and I sat on the bench for the second and third. So we watched the game together. My last program, I game to play like eight of twenty minutes P dash three and throw a pizza against the worst team in the league.

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Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

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Well you're not exactly a great performance for the all with dog in the satchel.

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I might I might have asked my brother for a little background check because while you were doing some prep work for this part, where was your brother playing then?

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Is he is he in Barcelona now?

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He's back on the team I played for before Vancouver. Well, actually before that.

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I want to ask you, you played for Timyra for a year because my best friend Matt Merly played for Timyra for a while, and he he lives in Sundsvall. He loved it. He married a girl from there. And he told me that it was so big when when he was playing there to try to get up to the S.H..

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All right. Like your division to. And so I saw that you played the one year you lit it up and you guys weren't able to advance into the into the big league, say you, and instead you went to or signed, say you had gotten Timyra and would you have stayed with them that year? Were you moving on no matter what?

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There was talk I had, like all the time, like during the season with my agent, with friends, with family, my brother. I yeah, I'm pretty sure I would have stayed because timorous close to home, it's where I have my I played it for five years and you would have gotten them there.

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It would have been like that much more special, I would guess. Yeah, exactly.

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And. You know, things didn't go the way I want and I'm happy with the with my year in that club, but it would be cool to.

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To bring Tamir up and play one year and as a child are kind of talked about it earlier as far as like who you looked up to growing up, making the transition, knowing you had as much success over there, were you nervous about coming over to North America to play?

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And was there any of these older veterans from Sweden who you reached out to in order to talk to you before you did so, I mean, given the instant success you had?

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Yeah, I was I was nervous. I didn't know how. I mean, initial list, the best league in the world, and I didn't know how well I would do and. And, of course, some small and skinny on that, so I don't know how well I would perform, but. We had four guys and four Swedish guys in the team and they helped me get comfortable and everything, especially Mark Ström, he took me under his wing right away and we're grateful for that, but.

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And first, NHL game against flames, and my first shift lasted 10 seconds because our D absolutely destroyed one of the flames guys. And my next shift, there was a fight. So I was like, this is the NHL.

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We got sick. Leave it exactly the way they talked about it over there. Yeah. So know, I was like, I can live like this.

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Were you more scared of coming over here and experiencing it for the first time or fighting Quinn Hughes at rookie party this year in the lobby of a hotel?

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He wouldn't say yes to a fight.

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Words you guys wrestling in the lobby at rookie party in the hotel room. It goes fast. They. Oh, and who? Tatou out. I mean, we're we're having a good time.

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Both of us might have been a little a little tipsy.

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That's OK. That happens. It was on your credit card. It was it was a great night. I think we just wrestle at the end. I don't think we had a winner. I think our teammates broke us loose. And you go and. I know you guys got a funny relationship, I heard a story, too, that he was driving up the hill and it was icy out, and then he he, like, pretended to start slipping.

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But then the car actually did start slipping down the hill, did it not?

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Yeah. Yes. So. So it was snowing a lot, the Vancouver and I don't know how slow the workers like. Say, if it's snowing, the snow stays on the roads for like two or three days before they get rid of it.

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So our people collecting a pension, doing nothing. Yeah. Podcast in the closet.

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So we we were going out for dinner and I walked because I was driving a sports car and. And that and that does not work well in snow, so I, I work with Quinn to kiss Toyota, tough car and.

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Such a. Yeah, I had to get a check on him, but yeah, so we were going up a hill and I was already, like, freaking out because I was afraid we were going to slip and hit someone. And he sensed that. So we were going up. And then you, like, scream, Oh, my God. What? I looked around. There's no one there. And then he just starts laughing at me. So they got me.

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Well, a boy who cried wolf.

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I know you had a Vancouver show when you were a little boy. As everybody knows, you Google it. But what did you know about Vancouver before you got there?

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Anything, of course, since you're still here about the city. And so. Good hockey players are, but especially are good people, they are outside of hockey and doing work with the community and all that and my the big hockey city. And I mean Hawk in Canada, and I think Hawk is the biggest sport here among cougars, so it's a it's a blast playing here. To take me back like the draft, it's in Chicago, I think.

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Did you know you were going fifth? Had you did you have any chances of going higher? Like, how did that whole day go? And then after was there a special night in town once you get to go top five fifth overall. I went the same way.

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Nice meeting you. Plug for himself.

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That's what we have to hear about that every episode. Well, I just try to get every fifth overall pick ever so we can them all. And I could bring it up every time.

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But you were serious now. Yes, he was dead.

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That's the game you saw at the game you saw. But that was not at the prime. That was that was pathetic. I agree.

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Yeah. The Dreft. After the combine, both Toronto and Vancouver flew me out to kind of meet me more and do testing biloba. So Vancouver was the team that showed the most interest in me.

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And but when they were doing the draft, Vancouver didn't talk to me, so I still wasn't sure if they were going to pick me, so. But then. My agent said usually before a draft, the camera guy comes and stands in front of you before a pickiest is called up and and when my career was up, the camera guy was in front of me. So I knew they were going to pick me down. But, yeah, I was still a little nervous and all that.

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So how old were you when you knew you were much better than the other kids you were playing with, like when you realized, holy shit, I'm pretty good.

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You actually very young because you're very young.

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Unicyclist was that was the tipping point. I'm better than everyone.

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I want to talk about how you got so into fashion. You're like I see you posting all the time. I mean, I saw I don't know if it was at the all star game when you wore that James Bond villain outfit.

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Yeah, a fun thing. If people zoom in on that pic, it's not stripes. It's letters. And what does it say giving you? Oh, she was she OK, so that's like so you love that high end designer? Yeah, I mean, I've always been into fashion and now been making. A lot of money I've been, I don't know, taking care of myself a little bit, if you need to treat yourself, you're always pretty sharp dressed plays in the NHL.

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Yeah. I mean, there's some tough outfits on the team, especially peaty.

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I mentioned a few minutes earlier a dual threat out there. People don't know you're going to pass, shoot or whatever. What do you like that to score a goal setting a guy up, the one scoring?

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Well, that's a full fledged.

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You did a little bit of that and playoffs. And that's one of the things I wanted to talk about, too. Like maybe there, you know, that was your first experience. Obviously, the physicality of it goes up and then you guys end up playing Minnesota and then St. Louis. I felt that points in both series. They were trying to get you off your game physically, but you ended up playing a point, a game like, you know, what were you thinking going to playoffs the first time?

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And ultimately, how do you think you handled it overall?

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Yeah, I mean, first playoff. I knew, like, all the intensity gets up and physicality. And so my mindset was to play hard and not shy away from anything. And and I'm very happy with how well we've performed in the playoffs. One game away from making do the conference final, but then I think I handled it well, I think we did well as a team. And and I mean, there was, of course, a lot of crosschecking on me and all that, but I'm used to it, so.

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Yeah, yeah, taken the beating is part of being one of the best, I think that you've definitely had to experience that. But you talk about the playoffs and it was being successful. But you also bring up Markram and I get the chance to play and play with Marquee in the minors in Florida. A little bit unreal, guys. Very happy to see his deal, but must have been tough to see him go. What did he mean?

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What did he mean to you? Just taking you under under his wing when you came over?

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Yeah, I mean, that was that was tough for me. I haven't experienced the business side of a SO and Marxian was, of course, a friend for life for me. But he's been. Taking care of me, like like telling me like small stuff to think about. Not to wear something like to wear like a crazy hoodie on.

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I'm like, well, we're going to drill because oh my God, this is I was with Marcie when people were telling him these things. It's come full circle. It really did register with them.

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Oh, that's that's awesome, guys. So, yeah, I listen to him and I'm trying to tell these things to Quinn, but he's just telling me to shut up.

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So you guys are too close in age.

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He's probably beat it. It's fun. But yeah, I was it was tough seeing Marcie leave, but it's business and I'm very happy with the contract he got because he said, where would he be bringing you out around Vancouver.

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I'm sure that was you know, if you said he put you under his wing rock, was Roxy a frequent spot? What are the young guys even going there anymore? Is that even a thing?

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Roxy, as I actually saw you their best one night?

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That's right. I think we did run into each other at the back bar. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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So I was like, how could you put my drinks on that little guy over there in the corner top right there? Yeah, that guy with the guy with that, you can chug chug it.

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Yeah, I know. I don't know. We've been going out to jail on a lot. So I'm trying to see where we go too much, but it's OK to drop out myself, but there are no jail time, but yeah, rock sets. I've been there, I think three times and. Three for three onewhere place, I would say just get out of there. Are you skating right now or are you just like working out how you approach and when whenever next season begins working out now skating once or twice a week.

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And my trainer back home, Robert, look back that I. The he says Michelle and I followed them and we were talking every day about the work that they're going to do for the day, so working out the drink Monday to Friday and Saturday, Sunday off. I was going to I was going to hop in about the training, you see a lot of these high end players doing a lot of skill work in the off season as far as hopping in the ice and all of a sudden they're doing all these movements in and out of cones.

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Are you doing that on the ice as well as getting in the gym every single day?

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I'm doing like I'm doing more like my stuff, more strange stuff, because that's what I need the most. But I'm skating once or twice a week to still keep that going.

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But I'm spending more time and gym than on the ice during the summers, just getting swoll for the off season three, maybe trigger all inclusive down south at the van popping.

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I mean. People don't think I work out, but I've been working up my whole life. I just I used to hear the same thing. Don't worry, these fifth overall picks, they come gunning after our bodies.

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Just prove it on the ice. Body shaming.

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I think Wayne Gretzky weighed 170 pounds, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. Now, I'm not sure about the Canadian rules. Are you allowed to go back to Sweden if you wanted to? Are you stuck in Canada? What's the situation with that?

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Yeah, I. I could go back today or tomorrow, but when I come back for next season, whenever that starts, I have to quarantine for two weeks and I don't want to quarantine again. So just stay cool.

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So and I'll say us that would be like bad timing for me to go home because all my hockey friends were starting their season and all my non hockey friends are either working or studying, so I would have no one on my schedule. So that was left the where I stayed here.

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I want to go back to the music for a second. I know there's a lot of metalhead from Finland, but what kind of music are you into your metalhead, too? I mean, I know you from Sweden, but I know that area like the world likes mettlesome.

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No, I'm not a metalhead. Not a country until you scream BPM guy from Sirius Satellite Radio, you know, BPM is no beats per minute.

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Calvin Harris, those guys are a little bit more mainstream. I like the deep shit. I like depos.

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I like like chill music, hip hop, the like songs like Drake, hip hop. So. I like to listen to a lot of music, I like to listen to like slow music, to like, oh, you like that RB Nana?

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I would say put a couple of candles on that.

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A note. Did you just sing a note for us?

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Oh, that was actually really did sound like a song. There you get a great company for my terrible singing.

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I'm not I'm not going to perform for you. Oh, come on.

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Try for all the Vancouver fans listening. Would love to hear you sing. Right.

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I'm a little tipsy. I'm still shy to sing, so I'm not going to happen. But I know as long as it's not like Kenny Chesney.

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She's from Boston.

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I like Ed Sheeran, luminaires, Lewis Capaldi, those type of music I got I got worked over by my wife.

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She said, well, that's not not always. Not usually. Not in a good way.

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She brought me to caution. We're going to this concert. Ed Sheeran. I was like, what? He was unreal.

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That was by him, by himself on stage for two and a half hours.

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He was rapping. He was singing. It was I've been a huge fan since.

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And she worked me over after the concert. That's something I want to do to go to a concert like that, never been to I only been to like concerts when different like EDM like plays. But I've been to like Ed Sheeran or Coldplay concerts.

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So you bring up right now, if you were back home, your buddies were at work and they got to work all day. And I would go through that when I was playing home for the summer. Right. But what are you doing with your time? Like during the season? Practice ends. You got nothing going on. You gaming, are you just hanging out? How do you spend your free time during the year?

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Yeah, I play golf. Big golfer, play video games, Call of Duty. For tonight, not so much for anymore NHL FIFA member, so I play a lot of a lot of video games.

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So from what I've been seeing on your Instagram, too, is like I think you're you're more interested maybe on the content side of things opening up that, you know, I don't want to call it a revenue stream, but I mean, like a guy like LBJ did it in in football, there are other guys who are doing it where you kind of like the way they're going. I know Austin Matthews is a big guy about Posten, what outfits he's wearing, tag and the price tag and and also getting on video more.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I want to like you said, I want to start streaming. I want to try to build my brand and be more out there and show personality because. I think it's definitely hard to show like outfits or fashion, because we have to wear suits to all the games and NBA and football, they can wear whatever. So that's why I've been trying post a little bit more like fashion post on Instagram lately and still have more to come. Yes, we're just trying to be a fun guy for people to follow, and I'm having a good time doing it, too.

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You did that video.

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The kid did a little dribble demonstration and then you went out, bought a basketball and did a pretty good imitation of a man. That's the stuff you like.

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Yeah. So people are tagging me on it. So I saw the video and and there was this Twitter account telling me to at least Pettersen can please do this. So first of all, let's do it.

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So when I want the entire board of basketball and that it took thirty, thirty one thirty six sixty seconds and people loved it. So and just a quick thing like that just make like I'm having such a good time with it and the people enjoyed it too.

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So it goes a long way and the fans love it. I was going to ask you, just from living in Vancouver, is there anything else outside of playing hockey like you go out and do, whether it's right around the seawall?

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I go Scootering Alert's. The the founder of Ben, he is a Kanaks fan, so he saw me and Quinn. Driving a spin scooter in Tampa Bay, so he's like, yo, this made my day, let me send you guys some scooters. All right, send us some and you send us four to me, Cranebrook and 10 of them. And we've been ripping them ever since. So, so far. When's the last time you rode a unicycle?

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I was a while ago this morning when I was doing ABS. I mean, it's a part of the workout routine. Put a clown costume and a little dog. It's been months since last time, actually.

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You want a gold medal world champion.

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You can call yourself a world champion forever. I was that in Denmark.

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Twenty eighteen. Like, take us through that tournament. What was your role on the team? How did that all go down?

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Um, yeah. That was a fun time. I mean I didn't play, I got, I broke my thumb not tournaments so basically.

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Yeah but he's like actually I didn't get a gold medal.

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What. Thanks for bringing it out. Oh. Well, yeah, then, yeah, that was fun. It's playing with that was like my first opportunity to be would be around NHL players and it was a good experience for me to see, like how they prepare for games, like how they are just normal people having fun playing hockey. And I mean, I was starstruck with someone to play it because I've been watching them growing up and they're playing for the country with them, so.

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I was having a blast and then I guess, Suess, I got to break away and I, I hit the post and broke my thumb so I missed the rest of the tournament. But just the games have played and stayed with the team during the whole tournament was also a memory I'll never forget. Yeah, let's talk about your coach for a sec, Travis Green, he's been a coach for the two years you've been in the league, guy seem to really like playing for him.

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He's a former player himself. That he just let you run wild, though. Did is he have you any kind of leash?

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What does he tell you on the grass or do I? Oh, he used to run pretty hard himself. So he can't say shit about the lady.

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Yeah, you ain't fooling me, Travis.

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I think he's still running pretty hard. It's great. Now he and Travis is good. I like him. He lets me play my game. And I mean, he's always giving me, like, small tips what to think about. So many them have a good day.

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I was going to say connection, but again, the rapport relationship.

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Yeah, relations.

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Rapport is a good one. Is great.

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You know, I struggle with the words you might have better English than me. So I want to be part of a connection first, too. But then I think it's a little romantic.

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And then I would have done the same thing. You just put the r my first light the candles. Let's get it going to poppin. OK, that Canelli this is one of the young studs, the league. You probably you know, you're darn into the social media and all the craziness. You have a question for them.

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Oh yeah. You did a video at the on the bench guys. How'd that go. You played some there huh.

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Oh yeah. That was so fun actually. Yeah, I like being a goalie, you so I told her you played soccer, but growing up I played soccer the whole time I played soccer goalie. Sorry. We had a goal in our backyard back home, and of course, my brother is older than me, so a young guy goes in and net. So that's where I got the interest of playing a goal. And then I, I don't know when I start playing and invest in hockey and just like it.

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Your brother must have been a huge influence for you. He still plays over there. We mentioned that like growing up. Was he was he giving you beatings or were you just always doing everything together?

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What was the relationship like where we were? We've been having a lot of battles in. I don't know how many fights are we've had or how many times our parents broke us loose from. I think it was one time I swing the like a floral stick over his neck or something, and then, yeah, we were going hard on each other. So both of us hates to lose. And whenever the other guy won, other guy got rattled.

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So you made a joke about listening to your father once in a while earlier on. I'd imagine that you guys are very close and he a big reason for a lot of your success.

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Yeah, my family means everything to me and they've been my support from day one and are still my support. And the way I am today with like two people is because of them. So. They've been an influence to me this whole time, and I wouldn't be here without them, so. You and Brock Bessler have some nice chemistry together. We see a lot of kind of dynamic duo throughout the league as some guys just click with for no reason, just get out there and just kind of share the same mentality.

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Yeah, we think hockey pretty similar.

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I mean, he likes to shoot more than pass, but all is against the law, so a little.

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But that's pretty much a help.

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Yeah, no, I mean, we're good friends off the ice and that just transforms to have good chemistry on the ice. We're hanging out almost every day during the season, so, yeah, it's just yeah, it's fun.

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Do you think he's got better hair than you got better hair or do you think you guys you guys compete for product advice?

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I don't know if he used it. Oh, yeah. He uses some products. And Peter. Yes. The better hair. I got to admit that. Yeah, it's some of the best hair in the league.

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You brought up golf, so I got to go in there. When did you start playing? What's the handicap like? What's this.

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What's a golf background handicap now is four point two. Oh, we can play boys. No shit. Oh yeah.

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That's happened. I mean, if you can juggle on a unicycle, you're handy guy.

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OK, so I'm a lefty on hockey, but I play golf. Right. Same same here. But maybe I'm a lefty.

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Maybe that's why you play putting. Are you putting Lefty now. No, I'm putting it right. But say if I play baseball I play lefty. Same here. That's where the same so far.

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So if I throw a football I throw it right.

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If I throw a baseball, I throw lefty avice first I right in my right I throw my left.

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It's off. I think we're ambidextrous, but obviously it's the fifth overall pick thing.

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I guess it just, you know, so is I think every time it mentions fifth overall the Corvex we term, we need to have people out to tell that motos story just to remind them, just to bring them back down a little.

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I love hey, is there any sports you're not good at?

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Obviously, basketball, because I watched you dribble, but anything other than that, I mean, I'm not that good of a dribble at basketball, I can shoot the ball, all right. But I'm not a good dribble. That move or that dribble move that I did is pretty easy, but I'm not like a good tennis guy.

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Like, I feel like a lot of the things I know or into tennis is not the same in Sweden.

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Yeah, I love playing tennis. Yeah. My grandpa had a. And he has a court on this on his yard, so every time we visited there, we we always play. So, I mean, a tennis game my whole life. Who's your favorite player to watch Federer about once a year?

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That's part of what I was going to ask the next hour. I was going to ask who are like your your favorite celebrities? If you could meet a couple of people, like, who would it be?

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Yes, they. That's a hard one. Really, I thought for sure you would have a few of them that you were going to bang off. Yes. OK, so Steph Curry is Steph Curry, LeBron James. King James of what?

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What's the other one is another NBA, all of those two, which doesn't like how they dive so much.

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So he definitely wouldn't like soccer. He thinks that.

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No, I actually I like I like soccer. I like soccer. Sakai's diving. I just I'm just not a big NBA guy. But obviously, you know what, those guys are athletes.

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So if you could change one rule in the NHL, it'd be the fact that you're able to walk into the rink or whatever outfit you want to wear besides the suit.

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Yeah, I would yeah, I would like to dress the way I want. OK, when we have Batman on, I'll tell them, I'll tell him that you're asking for it.

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Yeah, we're cool. You can have his shoes. Did Vancouver make a team role for them?

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When you guys were in the bubble? They said players can dress how they want. But I know some teams made guys with certain things with the Vancouver. Make you guys where.

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Yes. So we didn't hear about, like, if we're going to have an outfit. So I was like getting like kind of excited to to wear whatever I want, but. Three or four days before we left to Edmonton, we get slack pants, we got a blue golf shirt and nice Adidas NMD shoes and you were loving it.

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You're lucky you're on the Kalki look. Yeah, I mean, I brought some outfits if if we're going to change for one game, but no, that's all I got.

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You got one, right?

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I was asking what he does. Kill Time, your big movie TV guy. Watch a lot of Netflix, Brian, that type of stuff.

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What do I care? I kill a lot of time playing PS4 and Xbox. I have both because all the guys in the team play Xbox and all my friends back home play PS4. So that's the ball. So watch Netflix, TV. We still live on scooters, go shopping, go shopping a little here and. Hey, you're living your best life, man. You deserve it. We want to thank you very much. I think you bring up the game.

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Hopefully we'll see you streaming with Quirinale at some point. I think that would be a killer combo. Maybe at least you can help your following grow more.

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You get you get sick of everybody, butcher your name or you. Your name was a disaster for the first year and a half.

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Yeah, I know. I mean, people still here in North America still can't pronounce the Swedish way or say the Swedish way. So and the Swedish way is ileus pettijohn. That's that's what I try to do at the beginning.

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I don't know how good.

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Another version, though, is like a mixture, I think of the both. Yeah. Aesthetician, but I like it. Alias Pettersen.

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All right. Well, everybody, it's great to finally chat with you. What were the first few years you've had in this league? And we appreciate you coming on.

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I want to say thanks so much to our new friend, Peaty, for jumping on to chat with us. Man, like I said, colorful character. I love the Swedes, I love the Euros. We got to get more of these guys on biz.

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I'm going to send them a clip, a YouTube, one of my goals to believe I was in the NHL after what he saw.

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What I'm going to twist on Lundquist glove upstairs. I'll be the one to send them. Wasn't that your first ever goal? Yeah.

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First, it wasn't like a shelf. It was more middle than that. I might have been beneath his glove. I might have been.

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Well, what what are the odds that when he ever dropped that, that he was at that game and almost Causevic, when I'm just out there legit bamby in and I look like Happy Gilmore tryouts that some classic stuff.

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How about how about when I ran into him at the Roxette. Completely forgot about that. And I knew if I went up and shook his hand, I'm like, this guy is a cool dude. He's kind of like he had the high fashion he was feeling himself. I'm like fucking right. It's this guy's a stud. So big. Thanks to him for coming on. I always try to grow as his whole social brand and and get more in touch with his audience.

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So check them out following them on his Instagram, Twitter, and you'll see some really funny stuff from a very interesting character in the National Hockey League.

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Yeah, I'm certainly happy to help him out as well. A couple more news items. Yeah, no surprise, but the Winter Classic and all star game have been postponed. These are obviously two road trips. We always look forward to a little bit of yin and yang this year have been Minnesota and Florida. I was really looking forward to the all star game in South Florida, and I definitely know the white dog was hit up some courses down there and they got some beauties.

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Yeah, we were about to get a sandbag on with Pederson that one of those tracks down there. I actually rented a house in Jupiter for February. I'm going to be golf and I am so fired up.

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Let me know if you're sick track you want to play with me in Jupiter, but I really want to talk about Peter Miller and Nephew's voice because this thing is so sick, because it's the perfect that's because you don't want it lets you move in it.

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You get optimum, optimal mobility. That's what's nice. And also it's it's wind resistant. So if you're talking about tough weather, maybe.

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Yeah. You're going over on a trip to Scotland, abandoned dunes.

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You know, there's going to be wind, but you want to have your arms not too hot. You want to have your arms free to the fusion, the fuse vest, excuse me. And I just want everyone to know that the exterior being wind resistant is nice.

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But it's finished with a two way zip in front, so it won't get in the way of your view while you're putting and that's the real game changer in all the.

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To Peter Miller dot com slash Charcot's use code. Checketts at the Checo for a complimentary performance at its nice shit they got so check it out. The vest is where it's at and please go now. Peter Miller dot com slash.

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Chuckles You used the code checkout's. Thank you for listening.

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What, what, what were they going to give you. Extra. What was the extra gift. Complimentary hat. A performance hat.

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Oh I was going to say they should do the glove because you got to be putting with the glove on folks. I know you guys saw my birdie in the sandbagger a piece for me. We're bringing it back.

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Everything everything comes back around bellbottoms. Orrock and speak to that. He's been wearing them every ten Hallowes. They always come back around. Right. So make sure you get your your Peter in Maryland. Maybe they'll start throwing in the nice fancy glove, the putting glove Jupiter.

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How what was my book from the check. Let's pump.

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I gave it the last month Neptun was out of reach that Saturn was sold out. Yeah, I'm with you here in business.

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Your happiness is all ran out is getting ruined during this playoff predictions.

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Oh my goodness. By Barry bent over like we had to give him some pick.

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I just got like everyone I was l what was your final record. Those I had to series.

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Somebody's got to do between that and the warthog fucking stuff. It's like me just enough to fucking savings for the next year. He's been destroying us.

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Speaking of I got to say this story, my mother in law gave me this gift. Can you guys make that out? Can you guys see it looks like a beer mogg Hogwarts mug.

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Yeah, right. So I see it. And I was like, oh, Hogwarts, Harry Potter like and she's like, oh, from the show. And I'm like, we have so many fucking jokes over the years, like some of gold. My head. I'm thinking, why don't we make a Harry Potter joke? I'm like, I'm like, I can't go. And she's like and then she, she does the task.

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So they go, Oh you mean the what. You didn't put the Hogwarts together? No. Well, because I know that was Harry Potter, so I got on that fucking tunnel vision with we both smoke a lot of weed that might have gone over my head.

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I would have been the guy to watch Harry Potter. The fuck are you talking about? Which podcasts are you listening to that's cheating on me? I was baffled.

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I'm like we saw his mom and did the tasks.

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He started dying laughing. I was like, oh, no one like, oh, you got a free muggle.

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You got a free mug. Absolutely, man. You know what you should be putting in that mug? Well, I'm going to save it for later, but I think we listen. We know well that, too. But I have a Budweiser ad coming up.

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And I tell you what, if I was telling in practice that I haven't already said that, but he was talking about the market, I was going to say, speaking of mugs, you know, we should be pouring into it a nice cold Budweiser and that I was some sexy ad. But let's not do it right now. I'm going to say. Right. All right.

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Let's not speak in a sexy tease in the people with an ad that's fucking brilliant. They want some fucking you want some electricity? You never know. I could be stumbling out of the gates. It might take me 45 fucking minutes or I might nail it. So we try to tease big interviews, funny stories, business tease. It adds pressures on, pressures on.

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We've been talking about new uniforms and third jerseys, fourth jerseys in reverse.

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Retros with the Dallas stars fucking drop now stop dropping extra obnoxious.

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You know, Dallas, I don't know what building is in Dallas that it's got that neon green. It's basically the skyline defining building in Dallas. Will they dropped their New Jersey that took that neon green. I like it, man. And what did you think of a bitch? Is it obnoxious?

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Somebody put it next to the Monster Energy Drink Jersey and it looked identical. Listen, I think they're funky, like I mean, for a couple nights. I don't know how many times of the year they're going to wear those.

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I don't I don't know much if they determine that down the fuck knows what they're going to play. But well, like, I think like for like six nights of the year, maybe on a condensed schedule. But like, I you know, I like their I like their jerseys now. I mean, these these ones where you mix it every now and then. But I don't I don't know. I'm not like over the moon about it.

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I think it's I think kids will like it. They'll probably sell a shitload of them that. Well, there you go. That's the market. That's all. Cause that's that's the name of the game. Get that HRR up.

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But some rappers are going to be wearing that jersey for sure.

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Pick someone tweeted the pitch, Ryan Reynolds from the Green Lantern Fund. He made that awful movie a few years ago. And yet that he's still a treat. Mr. Burns from The Simpsons when he was going green, that basically became a little bit of a Twitter meme. But people seem to like it either way. But I'm moving right along for our friend Elliot Friedman. I the he reported to the H is going to start on February 5th in the H.

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I did confirm the news later with their press release, their board of governors approved that date. It's still tentative, I guess, but that's the date circled right now. And our other friend, Jeff Marek's said the 08 jells, general managers meet him, meet general managers meeting had concluded. And he had some details this season is going to start February 4th, training camps can start January. Twenty third European American players arrived January 8th and they quarantine.

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It's going to be a 40 game season for teams from each conference to make the playoffs. So eight teams total. Jeff also said there was no discussion about that contact issue number, whatever. Some politicians said they were going to play, but there wouldn't be any contact, which made no fucking sense. Jeff said teams assume that's not going to happen. Thank Christ. And then there was no discussion about fans during the meeting. But that's not really a surprise.

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The whole season would conclude May 16th and a reminder that the Memorial Cup has already been pushed back and will run June 17 through the twenty seventh. So I don't know a couple of leagues planning on starting. Obviously, we'll see what happens in the interim. A couple of retirements to announce as well. Trevor Daly retired up to 16 NHL seasons and he went to work for the penguins. He, of course, won two Stanley Cups there and now he's going to work with hockey operations advisor to Jim Rutherford with the penguins and long time coyote Martin Handsell.

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He officially hung them up as well. He spent 10 seasons in the desert, finished up with Dallas, battled a lot of back injuries at the end. He did say when I went to see the doctor again, it was either do another surgery or be done playing. Even the doctor said would not. Sure enough, the surgeon will help. I still have a long life ahead of me. I don't want to do another surgery. When it's not 100 percent, it won't even help.

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So all these guys, a couple of warriors we want to give them. Congratulations. Nice job. Great job in their careers. I played with Marty.

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I was going to say you must have, but yeah, he was always dealing with the back issues, man. He played a heavy game. He was a bigger guy. And yeah, ultimately it took his career too soon, but he was big for us that year. We went to the conference finals and even in the first two years I was there, we the organization that made playoffs for the first time, and he was that that big presence had a really good run with verbate.

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And Ray Whitney, they were there are going to linger in that cup run.

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Were fucking L.A. spanked us so. Well, great career, Marty. You got you got some of those paydays, too. Yeah, good for him.

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And also, we want to let you know that these announcements have been brought to you by our friends at Budweiser, Canada. And because I know you had a little more info for us.

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Good little stumble, but I recovered. That's all right.

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Yeah, I had a I had Halloween costumes written down, but I don't know. I'm kind of bummed I haven't actually going to a party in years, but I'm kind of bummed. I really wish I could get gussied up because as you saw in my photos I sent you earlier, when it comes to Halloween, I go all in Boice.

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She I don't know if all you've got to do did you see that house somewhere in Texas that the guy he he you know, everyone people go crazy following this guy have like fake dismembered bodies on his lawn and on his porch, like fake blood all over the place. And people kept calling the cops, reporting dead bodies. He had like one fake body with like a safe had fallen and hit him in the head and like like fake blood and brains everywhere.

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That's cool. And all fucking. Oh, for Halloween.

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Unbelievable. Speaking of Grenelle, he's dressed as me in the summertime right now with that mask on, that is about the same tone.

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Do you have any good, good Halloween stories.

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What, what are going to dress the kid up as this is more about the parents now that you have a kid.

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Oh yeah. He's a, he's a hammerhead shark.

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He loves sharks. So we got a hammerhead shark costume. It's phenomenal. It's actually my dad's birthday shout out big down Whitney on Halloween Turtle. It's always fun for us and the scarecrow tat. Yeah. So I'll probably send him a picture of your tattoo as a gift for Happy Birthday, Dad.

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My story. Oh, I dressed up as Bugsy one. Yeah, I've, I've told that I got a bunch of tattoos on my chest. I had the shirt open wide, I had a big ass Bugsy wig on and then I just carried around the bodyguard all night and did the Bugsy voice. So that was pretty funny.

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We got wrecked on about the Halloween party where you and Bugsy both dressed up.

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I think you are dressed up as Wendys and you paid so far away where we Ned was in town for that.

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And Nashville, it was our you know, it was in Pittsburgh. I don't remember the bar we were at. I had the Wendy's wig on.

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Who was he? Oh, he was some sort of fast food character, I believe I.

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The story the last time I told this, I remembered what he was, but we just got back on then were sprinting down Carson Street and our cost and the Wendys were gone.

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And people like that, Whitney, that's Moloney's chasing me down. We actually ran into these because we ran upstairs. And next thing I see that came around the corner, he'd already got a slice of pizza slap me in the face with it.

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So that was just the Halloween parties were the funnest time and one of the funnest parties of the year. It was every year, guys, you always did. He had a day off or maybe you didn't have a day off. You all grind it to the next day together.

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But oh, Mike, this is also before social media.

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World War I, at a certain point, two guys started spreading some serious dough on this Halloween course. Yes.

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Yes, everybody did. The dude from the bar owns no one. You did. The night King was like, is it the night King the ice king gave him?

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It must have cost him a couple of G's. It was legit, like Hollywood costume.

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So you don't think many people are going to be doing the fancy ones this year, even if I mean, I'm sure there's going to be like a virtual Halloween or something.

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I mean, there's definitely going to be young kids. Having fucking parties won't give a fuck. I mean, that's that's all they've been bitching about. Isn't available. Yeah. No shit. Yeah.

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We should have a costume contest. Each one of us has to submit a photo and we have our fans vote on it. I think I could beat you guys know.

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Oh you would, you would think you've got nothing to do all day besides your costume.

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You'd have some like you'd have like a staff over like building a costume around you for three days straight and we'd get all dumped in the competition a bit.

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Checking out a couple of new shows. Obviously, like I said last week, I got to catch up on my TV and movies because I don't know if you have stars or not. I actually it was only ninety nine cents during prime day, so I got stars like ninety nine cents and two months. There's a show on it. It's called P Vally P being sure for sure.

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I'm intrigued. It's I just signed up, I literally just threw it.

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It's a show, it's, it's about a black strip joint in the Mississippi Delta. I had heard about it. I got stars I put on farmable for Epson. It's fucking fantastic, man.

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I mean, there's not a lot of familiar faces on it, maybe one or two, but so far, so good. Man, I it's just a real different show. I mean, I've been to many TV shows about a strip joint, let alone a predominantly black one located in the Mississippi Delta and all the assorted characters that come in based on a true story.

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I don't believe so. I mean, it might be inspired by, you know, the strip joints in that area. I'm not too familiar the Mississippi Delta, but I'm not. I'm not. But it's definitely good shit that. Nah, if you got Showtime, there's a pretty good docu series airing lately. But The Comedy Store, the fabled comedy comedy club in Los Angeles, if you haven't seen it, it's worth checking out, man. It's a it's a pretty big part of comedy history in America.

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So if you're interested in that, by all means, check it out without spoiling it for the people who haven't seen it. You guys watch Borat. Oh, yeah, that's sealable. Yeah, so I saw the last one. OK, well, let's give it all. I guess we'd have to talk about it a month from now. I just I'll say this. Sorry it didn't do it for me like the first one. But it's still remarkable how you was able to pull off some of these these things and like the one with his daughter.

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That's right. Oh, my God. That was, like, gruesome. I couldn't. We won't. We won't. Yeah, we want gruesome summariser, but that's it. But there were some scenes around that were while they just I felt like it gave me the like he wasn't he wasn't the character as good in this one, given there probably has been so much time that had passed. It's kind of like when the Dumb and Dumber guys went back to being Dumb and Dumber finally again, where they just kind of like weren't wasn't during that time.

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So it just felt off a little bit to me. I also think it landed flat. Yeah.

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I mean, I'd say maybe an hour and I was starting to get a little disinterested. But I think also bizarre that what's changed is 14 years ago, you kind of had to entice people to say really stupid shit in front of a microphone on the news. Nowadays, you don't have to really prod too many people to do it. They kind of willing to do it pretty easily. And I know a couple of people have already complained that they were framed different.

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It's like, dude, you had two strangers knock on your door. Have you sign all these papers and fucking you get interviewed and then you're going to be like, oh, I got set up.

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It's like, what the fuck are you doing with like, just random strangers show up with foreign accents. Then I want to tape you like that should have been a fucking clue. Yeah.

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You got to have your radar on their slick PR team. Yeah.

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Seriously. So. All right. Well, that's the pop culture part of the episode. Now, we do have some sad news. We need to get to our obviously beloved Edmonton locker room attendant for the Oilers in the then Edmonton Eskimos, Joey Moss. He passed away at 57, surrounded by family. He was a universally beloved figure, not only in Edmonton, but the sports world. He was inducted into the Alberta Sports Hall of Fame back in 2015.

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He was presented with an NHL All Star Award. A couple of years back, family released a statement. They requested that in lieu of flowers, donations could be made to the Winifred's to a dot com. It's an organization that empowers people with disabilities. Joey had Down syndrome. If you want to donate, just go to the site and click on Donate. It's a Winifred's to a dot com. There's two NS in Winnifred and also Elliott Friedman has the tweet pinned on his page.

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That might be easier for you with. Obviously, you were in Edmonton. You spent some time with Joey Chiasm with us.

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Oh, this was this was tough news to get. You know, you there's certain people like you meet in life and you get the chance to be around. You'll never, ever forget, like the moments you had with him. And this guy was unreal. And so, you know what I knew about Joey before I got to Edmonton was I just remember seeing him in the 006 cup finals when he would belt out the anthem. He always sat like, first of all, right, right behind the behind the bench, behind the trainers.

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And he's belting out the anthem. It was unreal. And everyone kind of saw him and just what he meant to the team. And there was different stories. I think NBC at the time did a story about what he meant and what his role was with the Oilers. And for people who don't know Wayne Gretzky, excuse Dayton, his sister Vicky.

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And in eighty four, I think convinced or the the Oilers agreed, you know, he could come on and help. And so at the time it was it was Barry Stafford was the equipment manager along with Sparky who. Lyle Kuczynski.

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I hope I'm getting his name. I spark EUROSUR Spark in me. I apologize but I'm trying to get the story correct. And then Kenny Lowe came on later as an athletic trainer.

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But so he came in and they just they just hit it off. Right. Like this guy was so happy to be there. He also worked for the Edmonton Eskimos. Thirty years he worked for these guys and he became one of the boys.

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When I tell you I got in and met him. You think like it's one thing, and then all of a sudden when he's talking with everyone, he's giving people shit, guys are giving him shit, he was just so much fun to be around. And he would do certain things every day that would make everyone laugh like he lived life to the fullest. This guy was so happy. And I think that he did so much more for four guys who got to meet him and then they think they did for him.

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If that makes any sense. I got to talk to Gags today. Sam Gonyea, who wrote an awesome piece in the Players Tribune. Go check it out about what Joey Moss meant to him. They were really close. I talked to Hawk Gags is going to come on and tell some of the stories the way he's got a great memory. So we're going to get to that at some point in this next month. But just going over some old things, like this guy loved WWE.

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He loved wrestling so much.

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And the year one of the years I was there, panarin him would have these wrestling matches.

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They were full blown paper view match 50 people. It's all I heard about.

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The whole organization would be in the room and everyone would be absolutely going bananas is get as Joey would get brought in, he'd get brought in with his music, he'd play the villain, you know, Penner would be swinging this guy around around his head.

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It was unreal, like the actual wrestling match they had and about four minutes and Joey would take it, the place would erupt.

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As he threw a spark, he'd get down to one, two, three.

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He goes nuts. I actually have a video of it. I'll play the I'll play the reaction as he pins them got.

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I mean, the music starts pumping, he's dancing, he'd be singing la la la la la la la la la la la la la bamba. That is unreal. Singing That. So there were so many other things.

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Our gags reminded me, oh, dude, this guy. No one in the world could drink harder coffee than Joey Moss. He would take a pot of coffee that just came off a thousand degrees. He'd throw it in the microwave for a buck 50. A buck fifty, that's one hundred and ten seconds, if my math is correct and he would sip on this thing that be burning through a Styrofoam cup. No problem.

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He must have burnt all of his taste buds or feeling off of his tongue because he crushed coffee at the highest temperature known to man gags goes We one time we lost him at the bar because guys take him to the bar.

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We took them to wrestle mania at the movie theater. We would have them over guys that have them over guys. You bring them to dinner every night and gags.

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They took them to the bar, they lost them and they look on the dance floor and he's like dancing to a country song for Oil City.

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Just Coggs Cogliano bought them a new watch and every time it broke, he would go right to Coggs and ask for a new one like Gorgeous, the watch guy on the TV show.

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Right. I love this guy. Ryan Jones went and bought this guy a seventy five inch TV and everyone went to his place, the big TV. He already had a sixty five inch. Or you just want a little bigger one.

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So he was a bully. I love it. Oh, so then like guys who do this all the time, you know, Joy, you know, no beers, right?

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Maybe it's a special treat.

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You always have a little bit of a beer. I don't know. I don't know how that went down, but no beers allowed. And so, like, I could go over and, like, join me, sit down, just slide a beer next to and be like, Sparky, Sparky, you always got a beer and Sparky come flying.

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It'd be like, Morseu, are you two minutes penalty box. You have to go stand outside the locker room for two minutes. His time was up. Come back and just non-stop like him fucking with guys and guys fucking with him like he was one of them which was one of the one of the best people ever. I think he's going to be he's going to be so, so missed. And like I said, read guys this article. So many former players said different things on social media, Instagram, Twitter, remembering him.

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And what really sucks is that what's going on with covid and the borders, because there would have been an amazing turnout to celebrate his life and not that sucks.

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So somebody that will never be forgotten, anyone who ever met him will never forget them. And certainly anyone who got to spend a lot of time with them, those Oilers. And then I should have bring up now Jeff Lang and Haria, they're now a Quds Force. And these guys who wants the old staff moved on. Nothing changed with Joey Rity. He was he was with everyone else and everyone took care of them. And we're all going to miss him.

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So rest in peace, Joe Moss. Fifty seven amazing years and anyone who met you was really lucky.

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Obama said, awesome, awesome, thank you. Hell of a tribute. And again, we want to send it from the chick that's family, our deepest sympathies to Joey's family and many, many friends around the world. We were terribly saddened to hear about it. So, again, I think that'll wrap up this week's episode. Hopefully everybody enjoyed it. Have a great weekend and you'll hear from us again next week. As always, we'd like to thank our fantastic sponsors here on Spit and check out so big thanks to our friends at New Amsterdam, Vodka and Pink Whitney.

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Nice. Thank you to our friends over at Nizza for keeping everybody safe on the roadways. Big thanks to our longtime friends at Rollman for taking care of the fellows. Big thanks to everybody over at CrossCountry Mortgage.

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Hope for you taking advantage of them if you're looking to buy or buy a house. Thanks to everybody. Happy to Mollah for making us look good on the golf course. And a huge thanks to our friend Bud Canada. Make sure you take and everybody. Have a great crew. They did the monster mash. It also graveyard's. It got on and off, I think it belongs to my numbers were heavy for the party, it just because the guests included Wolf Blacula and his son.

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The scene was rocking over, digging the sounds, eagle change backfires being hauled the coffin bikers were about to arrive, but the vocal group, the crypt kicker they played belongs to them and was a graveyard. I take it off on the no fly. They played them on. Out from his coffin. Rex Voice did.