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The Washington Post, where democracy dies in darkness, if they have anything to say about it, has issued a correction for a story published in January that claimed Donald Trump told Georgia election officials to, quote, find the fraud in order to change the results of the presidential election. The story was repeated and spread in many anti-American outlets, including the House of Representatives, the Disney plus Happy, Happy Reeducation Theater at a wigger concentration camp in China, and NBC News now that the story has turned out to be 100 percent false.

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The Washington Post has dutifully issued a correction which was inscribed on the head of a pin and left in a haystack where anyone who wants to see it can try to find it. And good luck to them. The reporter who wrote the false piece, Amy Gardner, was disciplined by being pronounced the biggest liar at the post and given a small gold trophy engraved to that effect. With that bombshell debunked, several media outlets use the opportunity to offer their own corrections.

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For instance, CNN has issued a correction stating, quote, From March 20 20 to yesterday, CNN reported that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo was doing a terrific job handling the Chinese virus, that he was a wonderful person and that he would make a fine presidential candidate. In fact, he's a slimy lecher who slaughtered thousands through his incompetence and ought to be destroyed. Also, his brother is an idiot. Other than that, the story was correct, unquote.

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The correction was printed on a Kleenex and dropped from the top of CNN headquarters in Atlanta, allowing the wind to take it where it would. Cosmopolitan magazine has also issued a correction. The correction stuffed in a model's underwear and then rendered unreadable by a Brazilian bikini wax states, quote, In February twenty twenty one, we published several magazine covers showing obese women looking happy under the caption, This is healthy. In fact, the model should have looked miserable and the headline should have read, this is a covid comorbidity that will also give you heart disease and cancer.

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And by the way, we were lying when we said it was attractive. We're actually laughing at you behind your back while we eat our salads, unquote. The New York Times, a former newspaper, issued their own correction, which was wrapped around a stick set on fire and then used as a torch by a screaming mob of twenty three year old ignoramuses who destroyed a company. Ladies room for claiming there are such things as ladies. The correction stated, quote, in stories running from twenty seventeen to late this afternoon, we published a series of articles claiming that Soviet communism was good while America was evil.

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In fact. Oh, look, there's a racist squirrel, unquote. Speaking in unison as they frequently do in line, mainstream media outlets said they would try to do better in the future. Then they issued a correction trigger warning. I'm Andrew Klavan and this is the Andrew Clavon show.

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I honkytonk just to give you. So needless to say, she did see Thompson a bit easing. It's a wonderful. Who makes me want to sing? Oh, brother. Oh. All right, once again, we are back laughing our way through the rubble and dust that used to be the republic, this would be a wonderful, wonderful time for you to subscribe to the YouTube channel, which currently I think has the the name is subscribed to by the number of people who live in Saudi Arabia.

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So today I'm going to do something a little different. Usually what I do is I start off talking about the headlines, talking about politics, and then later on the show, when you're, you know, you're relaxed, you're ready for it. When you're screaming at the speakers, I go into my cultural you know, I talk about the culture and I do that because I know you're listening to the show. So you're probably troglodytes and Philistines. And, you know, when you get to the culture part, you know, you're you you have to stop shaking your fist and you turn off and go and listen to something stupid until Knowles's show is over and, you know, you just want to hear.

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But I'm going to start with the culture today because I thought that the Grammys, the performance of WAP, actually said something that reveals a lot about the news. It actually tells you what what is going on in the news.

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And yesterday on backstage, I made a joke that when I first saw the Beatles, I knew it would lead to WAP. And that is a joke. But it's only half a joke. It's only it's actually half true. When I was a kid, my father was one of the big DJs in New York.

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He was at times the biggest deejay in New York. And he worked on a station that played what was then called Mallam Music, Middle of the road. It wasn't rock, it wasn't classical. It was the the kind of old fashioned American songbook. And these were these were the songs that were written twenty years before I was born, a lot of them that were written on what what used to be called, you know, Music Row or and they were written by immigrants, people who came to America, who loved America, Jews, Irish people, guys like Irving Berlin and George M.

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Cohen, Cohen and Irving Berlin wrote God Bless America. He wrote White Christmas. They actually wanted to be part of the country. Tin Pan Alley, it was called. That's what they called it. And William Cohan, Roach's Grandal flag, all kinds of patriotic songs. But the song that exemplified this more music to me. And remember, I was a little kid. I was listening to my father in the morning and and this was the music I heard.

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And the song that exemplify this for me was Cole Porter's I Get No Kick from Champagne.

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And Cole Porter was very upper class guy from Indiana, a gay guy from Indiana who brought this kind of sophistication and simplicity to his lyrics. Now, in a lot of these old songs, people don't know this, the part that that the songwriter often pay the most attention to and brought the most sophistication to. The most cleverness, too, was the intro. The intro, which was rarely actually played on the radio. They usually got right to I get no kick from champagne.

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So here's Frank Sinatra on a show hilariously called Music for smokers only smoking a cigarette and singing the intro to I Get No Kick from Champagne.

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This was the kind of song I listen to as a little kid and I suddenly turn and see your fabulous Abduallah. And then he goes into the main part of the song, I Get No Kick from champagne, incredibly sophisticated lyrics operating at a level of sophistication, portraying sophistication. I've got I'm fighting vainly the old ennui. I've got everything in the world. I'm just so bored with life. But I want to get a kick from something, but I get no kick from champagne.

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The original second verse started some. They may go for cocaine, but I think that if I took even one sniff, it would bore me terrifically to later they changed it to perfume from Spain or whatever else they could find to rhyme with it because they found out about cocaine. And the final verse has one of the most sophisticated rhyming schemes ever where he says, I get no kick in a plane, which this was written in the nineteen thirties. A plane was a pretty elite thing to have been in, but I get no kick in.

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A plane flying too high with some guy in the sky is my idea of nothing to do. So that's a really parcel of rhymes. And yet it sounds very much like natural speech in what must be like 19 or 20 syllables. It's a lot of write. All right. So now I'm nine or 10 years old and my father comes home one day and my father really knew.

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I mean, his business was to know pop music. And he said, Boy, oh, boy, I just heard the future. I just heard the greatest stuff I've ever heard. This new band out of England called The Beatles right now. I was aware of the Beatles because they were coming to be when I was about ten, they came on The Ed Sullivan Show and I knew that there was a lot of excitement about it. And as a little kid, you want to kind of want to be part of the excitement of teenagers, people who are a little older than that.

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And my father came home and he played this album for me. And here's a song, of course, everybody sort of just a little taste of it, the Beatles and.

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And so so I 10 years old, I objected immediately, I said, oh, this is excellent, we're really going from flying too high with some guy in the sky is my idea of nothing to do. Two, she loves you. Yeah. Yeah, I saw her yesterday. I mean, that that's really the that's really an advance we're going forward. I thought it was I thought it was awful. I thought I loved lyrics. I love sophisticated lyrics.

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And I just thought, you know, it was terrible now. There has always been rock, I mean, all my life time and, you know, in the 50s there was rock and roll and there was bebop and all this. But the point is Sinatra didn't sing it. The kids listen to it. But Sinatra didn't stoop to singing Teen Angel or Duke of Earl. But the Beatles, of course, transformed everything. And ultimately, they kind of made Sinatra and his ilk kind of obsolete.

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What was middle of the road became kind of off the road to the side. Now, here's the thing about the Beatles. And people always misunderstand how I feel about this. They were amazingly talented, amazingly talented. Artists produce a snapshot of their times. The Times caused the artist and the artist proceed to cause the times. And what I didn't realize, of course, because I was just a little kid. But what I realized later on was we were seeing more than just the end of sophistication, sophisticated lyrics.

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We were seeing the end to upper class aspirations. So go back to I get no kick from champagne, go back to Sinatra. Now, remember, Sinatra was a knockabout guy from Hoboken, New Jersey. He was not, you know, Frank Franklin, Sinatra, Francis Sinatra, the third. He was like this immigrant's kid coming up from the because he had a voice coming up from the bottom, coming up from the slums. Right. But he was talking about, oh, I'm fighting vainly the old ennui and I see your fabulous face.

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Such an upper class thing to say. Not your your pretty face, but your fabulous face. Right. These upper class tones of Cole Porter, Fred Astaire in his movies. Right. He always played an ordinary guy, but then he got dressed up in top hat, white tie and tails. So it was just it was not the upper class values. It was aspiration because the upper class people were sometimes portrayed as snobs and people who didn't care and phonies.

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But their values were sound right. You wanted to have good manners. You wanted to be chivalrous. You wanted to have good dress sophistication, good grammar. Those things were considered universal. And the culture, the idea that there was a culture that we all considered good was also considered universal. There's a famous and very funny scene from the TV show MASH, where the kind of Nebish radar wants to impress this very sophisticated girl. And Alan Alda, as Hawkeye is explaining to him how you can get away.

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You know, if she brings up BOQ, here's what you do. Here's just this quick clip.

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If she brings him up, you just smile and you say, bah, smile a little bit, but he's good.

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Do the girl doesn't fall for it in the end. But the point is that we all understand we don't have to say anything. We don't have to talk. We all share this high culture and that's all you have to say. And what the Beatles rock was, was a rejection of that. It was a rejection of aspiring to be elite. They were working class kids from Liverpool and they sang like working class kids.

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And they also sang, you know, at one point they did a cover of the Chuck Berry song from the fifties called Roll Over Beethoven. And that was saying, you know, roll over Beethoven, tell Tchaikovsky the news. I got the rocking pneumonia. I need a shot of rhythm and blues. We're pushing the elite out and we're bringing in this new working class sensibility. Peter Sellars, one of the great comic actors of his day, you might know him from Dr.

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Strangelove. He's kind of forgotten now, but he was really a funny guy. He did a routine where he would play a Shakespearian character and he would recite the lyrics of the Beatles from a Hard Day's Night, which is obviously about a working class guy. He's working the night shift, but he's glad to come home to his beloved. And here's Peter Sellars reciting the lyrics in a Shakespearean fake Shakespearean voice.

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It has been. A Hard Day's Night may not have been working like a dog. It's been a hard day's night. I should be sleeping like a dog, but when I get home to you, I find the things that really make me feel all right.

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All right. You make it's a hard day's night. The joke is that the two attitudes cannot exist together. One is going to win. One is going to lose. You cannot cease to aspire to the elites and have the elites continue to take on your art. So that's why Sinatra, when he sang Eleanor Rigby and when he sang something the way she moved, it sounded ridiculous. He couldn't do it because he was coming from a generation where that aspiration was still in place.

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What I was seeing, what I was noticing even as a kid, was that the end of the great American moment was coming right at the end of the moment when we thought, yes, we have got generation after generation to move. You know, it was flexible, right? We were moving into the elites. You could come from Hoboken and become the police. But you wanted to do that. You didn't want to remain you didn't want to keep your working class attitudes and say she loves you.

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Yeah. Yeah. And it's been a hard day's night. You wanted to move up to I get no kick from champagne. And that was that was over. And this doesn't happen in every generation had happened in our generation because there was a sense that America was not a perfect country, that the things that we had been taught were untrue, that there was racism in America. The Vietnam War was a terrible mistake. And so there was this kind of shift and that and our fathers and mothers who have been in this great generation, there may have been a feeling, too, that we couldn't live up to them.

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So we were just going to toss their values out. But this was but this was the collapse of that moment.

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Now, let me pause here before I go on with the music and just remind you of a show I did, I don't know, two or three shows back about Paradise Lost, the famous poem by John Milton Wright, the famous poem about the fall of man Milton participated in the English Civil War, during which after which the King Charles was beheaded and Milton approved of his beheading and was almost killed himself when the restoration came. And they brought in the new king.

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And then he wrote Paradise Lost about the rebellion of Satan against the king of heaven and earth. And his point was, and he made it very explicit, was that you can rebel against a human king because a human king is only there because we're sinful. But you can't rebel against the king of heaven. You can't rebel against God, because then you become satanic, then you become evil. And rebelling against God is not just rebelling against the church because Milton was rebelling against the Catholic Church.

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He was a puritan. It's not rebelling against the church, is rebelling against the entire idea that nature has an ordained meaning, that men and women have, that it means something, that there are men and women, that it means something that we die, that it means something that we live in, that we're embodied and that we're gendered and all those things.

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It's rebelling against that entire meaning of life at other level of meaning of life. And once you start to do that, Milton's point was you become evil so you can rebel against human things like rebelling against the elites, like rebelling against Fred Astaire and Frank Sinatra and Cole Porter. You can rebel against them. But once you take it into that next step where you're rebelling against the greedily the fact of creation, the godly fact of creation, you become evil and people slip from one to the other.

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It's the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution. The American Revolution was a revolution against the British elite, but it maintained the values, the aspiration to be an elite culture and a good culture. It just added freedom into the mix, more liberty, more emotion into the mix. The French Revolution was a revolution against the church, a revolution against God, a revolution against the entire idea of the culture. And it was a paradise lost satanic revolution that ended the way all those revolutions do with bloodshed and murder and people killing each other.

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So this brings me finally to the Grammys and Whap right. This song by Khateeb that she sang with Maegan the Stallion, I think where they got on and just really, really disgraced, degraded themselves.

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They degraded themselves. They act in this animalistic, hyper sexualized way. And of course, the critics think, oh, how what a wonderful thing this was. But it was just sad. I mean, it was just it's just pitiful to see someone not without talent, somebody who can dance, somebody who can sing, degrading herself to this point and also showing young girls and young people that this is what you are. You are an animal. You're just a sexual creature.

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Your sex is not involved in any kind of human interplay. It was not, as Matt Walsh said last night, it was not sexy. It was just kind of pitiful. And here's you know, we can't show too much of it because it's it's obscene. But here's just a brief clip of it.

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Whores in this house. There are some whores in this house. There's some whores in this house. There's some quarters in this house. Hold up. I said certified freak, seven days a week. Wet asport. Make that pull out. Game week password. Password is genitalium. Could it be look different.

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I thought at the at the Grammys it may have been the yamaka but. Look, it's degrading, it's trash music, it's crap lyrics, it's almost it's almost a form of grunting when you think that we're coming from, you know, flying too high with some guy in the sky and your fabulous face to this kind of it's garbage and it's not it's not being cranky. There used to be everything used to be wonderful. It's just charting a progression of an idea where people start out by rebelling against the elite and they slip in to rebelling against their own humanity and the own higher and in the higher meaning of creation.

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So why does this happen?

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And this is this is ultimately the point I want to get to, because this is relevant to all of us. This is the Andrew Clavon theory of why this happens, drawn from my own experience, but also drawn from my observation of other people. It's just speculation. But because it's my speculation, we know it's 100 percent correct. And the way the way that I see this is that we are all born.

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We are all born with a sense of the good and the bad. We're all born with a sense of God. We're born with what God with an idea inside us, implanted inside us is what good God looks like, because we're made in his image. We all have this inside of inside us. You know, a few weeks ago, I got a letter from a woman who said a mail bag letter from a woman who said, you know, I've been so abused, how can I trust God to be good when so much evil has happened to me?

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And really, the question is always, how would you even know the difference between good and evil if you weren't born with a sense of God within you? And, you know, when you see your mother, you know, she's supposed to be tender and nurturing and merciful and, you know, your father is supposed to be strong and honest and just and we know that they represent something from another place. We know that they represent some mysterious division in the person of God between male and female, certain traits that are important.

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We know they're supposed to be like this and we know when they fail.

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And of course, they all fail. They all our parents fail.

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And so here's here's the situation. If you have a good religious upbringing, not just any religious upbringing, but a true religious upbringing, when you start to realize that your parents are human and they're imperfect and they're not the God you came into the world looking for, you can shift that allegiance, not take it away from them. You don't have to take it away from them, but see through them to the good God that they represent both mother and father, both male and female, that they represent.

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If you don't have that, if you don't have that, there's nothing. Once you rebelled against them, you can rebel against anything. You're just into the darkness. You are going to establish your own self. You're going to define your own self. You're going to define the meaning of nature. You're going to define the meaning of gender. You're going to define all those things. And then you've gotten into Paradise Lost territory and you slip you slip through into evil, you slip through into evil.

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And this is the thing you start out by saying, you know, screw your top hat, white tie and tails and you end up strip naked shouting about your genitalia like an animal. Right. And that's that's the progression, not because you rebelled against an elite that has failed, but because you failed to see what that elite failed to do was to represent the good God who orders nature to his liking and to his goodness. And so you slip through the true rebellion, the fair rebellion, into a rebellion against creation itself.

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And that's the place where we are. And that's the way that is the point of view from which I want to look at the news this week.

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So let me show you how when you slip from rebelling against an elite, which can be a fair thing to do, and certainly right now our elite is in complete failure mode. Our leaders totally failed to uphold its part of the bargain, which is to uphold the values of our country and the values and the values that have been handed down to them. They're basically or are if they're not incompetence, they're locusts. They're actually devouring everything that was built and given to them.

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So it's totally fair to rebel against them. But when you move from that to rebelling against creation itself, you become stupid and you become evil. And we see this. There are two murders that I've been following this week. I know everybody's talking about the the Atlanta murder, but there's another one that was taking place in England that really was interesting.

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And one of the things we all find is this. Absolutely disgusting rush to claim the dead for your cause to stand on the body of murdered men and women and claim that somehow this establishes your cause to be the just cause, the left, it's always the left who starts it, but the right, as always, plays along. And, you know, because we don't own the media, because we don't own the culture, they can do it with a lot more power, a lot more force than we can.

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It's disgusting. It's a disgusting way to react to grief. It is basically standing on the bodies of murdered people and trying to make them turn them into a political cause. And it really but also illustrates the stupidity, the stupidity of what we're looking at. So there's a young woman, 33 year old marketing executive. Her name is Sarah Evrard. This is in England. She was walking home. And at night in London and she went missing and a police officer, Wayne Cousins and Metropolitan Police officer, has now been arrested and charged with her murder.

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Right. And this has caused an outcry about. Women's safety and men's evil, basically everything went wrong with this woman she took she took all the precautions that women are supposed to take. She stayed on bright streets. She phoned her boyfriend on her way. She wore bright colors, all the thing girls are told, all the things girls are told to do to stay safe. And she not only got killed, she got killed by a cop. Allegedly, the person who is charged is a cop.

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So what greater nightmare could there be?

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The talk immediately devolved into the evil of men. They even at one point floated the idea of having a curfew for men.

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It's all about men.

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And women are upset that people are saying, hey, you know, you have to be careful, you have to be careful because they're saying, well, it's it's no fair to tell us to be careful when the problem is men. Why do we have to change our ways when it's really men who should change their ways? So here's a montage of some of the commentary that's going around in England.

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Women know abduction and murder is just the worst end of a spectrum of everyday male threat to women killed.

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Women are not vanishingly rare. Killed women are common.

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Women are really responding to this by recognizing how similar it is to their own experiences. We all have those daily experiences of monitoring our safety, of carrying our kids between our fingers. And yet we know that that's actually no barrier to preventing harm from happening to us generally.

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I think there is a well-founded fear that women aren't being adequately protected by the criminal justice system. And that is why so many, so many women do not have confidence in it. There is a need for wholesale attitudes change really at every level of education as well, to really start tackling a victim, blaming a misogynistic society.

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The continuing figures and the continuing experiences of women tell you that there's something still seriously wrong.

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So so London has even actually in England and Wales have declared that misogyny, misogyny, the hatred of women will be treated as a hate crime. If they actually take that seriously, they're going to be a lot of women in prison, most of them feminists.

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But the thing the idea that men have to change their ways is a problem. It's it's a it means that nothing is going to be done except the torment of little boys. Right? That's what I mean. That's what's going to happen. The reason is, is men don't prey on women. Evil men prey on women. And evil men are not going to change their ways. Why? Because they're evil. Right.

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This guy this is not going to stop. This attitude is not going to stop a single crime against women that. Don't get me wrong, most men have done something bad to women, especially in their youth. We all have I certainly have things that I terribly regret. I wake up in the middle of the night sometimes thinking about these things, and obviously that that is a terrible thing and you try to be a much better person. But if men cheat but most men, including me and I think most I think this is true of most men.

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If I see a woman walking ahead of me on a dark street, I cross the street so she won't be anxious across the street. So she'll she'll feel safer if she were attacked. I like to think that even at my ripe old age, I would go over and beat the guy up with my my walking stick. You know, I still feel this way and I feel that most men feel this way. So if men change their ways, right.

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Of men change their ways, it's not going to be good for women. It's that they are if evil men change their ways and they won't. So they're talking about evil. And the idea of evil has disappeared into the psychologizing of people. Right. So we can't just say, oh, this guy is evil. It's got to have something else. Why? Because all of us have evil in us. All of us have sin in us. And if you have if you start to acknowledge the idea of evil, you start to acknowledge the idea of your sin and your shame.

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And people spend, I would say, about 90 percent of their mental energy trying to avoid shame. That's what they try to avoid because we all feel it and we all know it. So instead of having evil, you've invented they've invented these racial and sexual categories that, of course, convey power to the powerful. And that's why they take these murders.

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These tragedies is a woman who's dead. She's her life has been snuffed out by this evil guy. And instead of saying, well, you know, evil is a problem. So maybe maybe, you know, good and evil define things like actions and ideas. Maybe it's not all right to, you know, the big the big upsurge in women's violence. And the reason this is coming up and the reason this is causing this hysteria, the big upsurge is because of the influx of Muslim immigrants.

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We talked about, Ayaan, to Ayaan Hirsi Ali about that a couple of shows ago. And that is the problem that they're facing. And that's why the hysteria being turned on this guy, because he's a white man. So they can say it out loud, but still still it's political and they're not facing the fact that ideas are evil, actions are evil. We don't know the heart of a man. We can't judge the heart of a man.

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But we can say his ideas and his actions are evil. But they're afraid to do that because you're not allowed in under the left. This new leftist regime, you're not allowed to say there's such a thing because that is giving meaning to creation and that's what they're trying to avoid because they're trying to avoid shame. You're not supposed to be fat shamed. You're not supposed to be slut. Shame. Nobody says, you know what?

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Maybe if you're really obese, maybe you should be a little bit ashamed. Maybe if you're treating your body like a toy for men, maybe you should be. Maybe, you know, shame would be a good thing.

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No, you're not allowed to do that. So we have to find these other categories instead of the categories that we have to judge. Now, the murder here is the same exact thing is happening.

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The suspect went in and killed eight people at three massage parlors in the Atlanta area. And he told investigators, well, here's what the sheriff says.

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He said he made indicators and indicators that he has some some issues potentially sexual addiction and may have frequent some of these places in the past. But the working theory is a sexual addiction issue rather than a racial profiling. During our interviews, we asked that specific question and and that did not appear to be the motive.

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So what if you looked at this as as a question of sin and evil? Right. What if you said, oh, here's a guy who's caught up in our pornographic culture. Here are Korean women who for some reason are being shoveled into the into sex slavery. I mean, come on, nobody grows up thinking, oh, I want to work in a massage parlor so I can give men pleasure. These were women who have been sold in some way or tricked or imprisoned into sex slavery.

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Why is that happening? Why how is that not they keep calling these things Spar's and A they're whorehouses, you know, and a guy is is caught up in that. And it's not it's not the women's fault. Certainly. They're obviously victims. And the man is is obviously in the grip of some terrible issues. It's not an addiction. That's ridiculous. It's he's, you know, caught up in the coils of desire. He's caught up in the coils of sin.

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But because we're not allowed to talk about that, because that entails shame for all kinds of people, including ourselves, including ourselves, inquires us to look at our society in terms of its good and evil ideas instead of in terms of these false constructs, these anti creation constructs of the color of your face.

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Or, you know, men are evil because they behave like men and women are good because they behave like, you know, instead of this kind of nonsense that we're all talking, we are escaping, escaping from this idea.

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Listen to the way The New York Times play this. Now, you have to understand there's a political motive here for interpreting this as anti Asian hate crimes. There has been an upsurge in Asian hate crimes. And, of course, the left wants to say this is because Donald Trump called the Wuhan flu the one flu. That's why there's an uptick in Asian hate crimes. I don't know if that played into it. Something like twenty seven percent of these crimes are committed by black males against Asians.

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And and the Asians have been complaining about this, but they can't get any traction off those complaints because nobody wants to say, oh, this is a problem in the black community who seem to be reacting to the fact that Asians come into their neighborhoods, work hard, build businesses, dislike them because they're in high crime areas and are held up as a you know, as a model minority. That's what they call them, the model minority. So the Asians, a lot of these hate crimes are coming from black people.

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A lot of them, of course, are coming from the Yale admissions office, which won't let Asians in because somehow if they're if their population turns to Asian, I'm not sure what the rest of that sentence is. I'm not sure what they're afraid of. But they insist they insist that they should be able to keep out Asians.

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So there is this on the left. There is this real animosity toward Asians, because this is the left speaking, not me. They they say they're almost white. They're really included in being white because they work hard. And all this is just it's just a way of degrading black people, as the left always does. So here's the way The New York Times play this. A former newspaper tried to lie the narrative into the real story. The headline is Georgia Killings Deepen Fears of Rising Anti Asian Hate in US.

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They said the suspect has told authorities that the attacks were an attempt to remove the temptation of the self-described sex addiction and not motivated by racism. A former roommate of his at a halfway house said he had tried to end his addiction as recently as early twenty twenty, but had continued going to massage parlors for sex. Still, community leaders said it could not be ignored that most of those killed in the rampage had been of Asian descent. Why not? Why couldn't it be ignored?

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Why couldn't it be ignored while it couldn't be ignored?

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Because they want to avoid they want to use the killing disgustingly for political purposes, but they don't want to use it for actually facing the state of the of our society and the state of the human soul. That is what they're trying to avoid. They're trying to avoid the shame of acknowledging the state of the human soul. There's one here. This was today in the Times. People are literally debating, says this one, Asian American feminist. Right. She says people on here literally are debating if this was a misogynistic attack against women or a racist attack against Asians.

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What if wait for it, it was both while she hit the jackpot on that and I don't understand why people aren't asking if you want to make it racial. Why not? Why are Korean girls being roped into the sex slavery and right wingers who are fools? You know, right wingers obviously are fools. They fall into this debate all the time. They they try and come up with their own with their own racial narrative. So they say, oh, well, it's blacks who are attacking Asians and all this.

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I don't understand why we can't just say this is an act of evil. How did he become evil? It was because of these desires. It was because the society basically encourages him into this, lures him into this. It would happen anyway is always going to happen that this is the thing. It's always going to happen. Women are always going to be in danger because they are smaller than men and men feel lust. That's why that is why it's going to happen.

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The thing to do would be to teach the society, to teach the society that we need chivalry, that we need goodness, that we need religion. This is why this is why conservatives see. So people who think they're going to reinvent the moral law have gone astray. I hear this all the time. I hear smart people right and left. They think, oh, wait, now we found out that the more all all this time we thought there was a moral law where men had to look out for women and protect women.

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But now we know now we've really figured this out. If you invent, reinvent the moral law, stop because you're wrong. There's a reason the beaten path was beaten. The beaten path was beaten for a reason because people learn things from their experience. The reason conservatives support strong mom and dad, families and religion is not because it's nice or socially acceptable. It's because the way it's always done is because it gives you the resources to find the true path to yourself and your God given destiny after your parents failure.

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And hopefully they don't fail you catastrophically with abuse. But when they turn out to be human, you want to say, Oh, the devotion I was looking to apply to them has to be applied through them to their creator. Once you lose that, then you revolt against the elites. As we've had in this country for the last 60 70 years, your revolt against the elites becomes a revolt against creation because you can't see the difference. You can't see the difference between the elites in creation and then you slip into evil.

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And this is what this is. It is evil. It is evil. These murders are evil, but it's also evil to seize upon these bodies, to climb on these dead bodies, to climb on the grief of their parents, the grief of their loved ones, and declare that somehow this is affirmation of your political attempt. So it's of your political motives and desires. So it starts with an evil action and it ends with an evil action. And we're in a circle of evil.

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And that's that is the result. That is the result of losing losing the structure which leads you from your parents to God.

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So this brings me to the Biden crap fest, because this is a terrible presidency so far. It really is terrible and it makes it terrible is not the leftism.

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It's not the leftism. It is the commitment to failure. It is the commitment to continuing to fail. We have a doddering old man throwing your grandchildren's money at failing leftist bromides that are slowmotion socialism. So like all socialism, they drive you bankrupt. Like all socialism, they drive your country into slavery and bankruptcy. They're just doing a little more slowly than the Soviet Union did because the Soviet Union did it full bore. So it took 70 years. You're gone.

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Most bad ideas, they get 70 years and then suddenly everything falls apart. This is maybe taking a little longer because they haven't been able to install it through revolutionary means, but they've put it in their bit by bit.

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They just passed this one point nine trillion dollar bailout. Right. And that's what it is. You know, they they have called it the Democrats have called it the furthest reaching social welfare bill since the Great Depression. And Republicans say the same thing. But what it really does is it sends your grandchildren's money to bail out union pensions that bankrupt cities. You know, how do you get union pensions? The union comes in and says we want to raise.

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And the mayor says, well, I can't give you a raise because that'll bust. The budget in the union says will give us bigger pensions and you'll be out of office by the time it breaks the budget. And the guy the mayor says, oh, OK, if I'll be out of office, I want her my political career. And he gives them a pension that the city's never going to be able to pay, you know? And then finally, some tough Republican comes in and says, you're not going to get your pension.

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So they're sending money, sending your grandchildren's money to pay out the pensions, to bail out Obamacare. They have a temporary raise in the children's you know, the the children's relief that you get if you have children, but you can't afford to have children. So they're paying you basically to have children out of wedlock. That's supposed to be temporary. But of course, what's going to happen when the Republicans say, OK, it's temporary, is running out, let's just leave it go.

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It's going to be Republicans try to take money out of the mouths of children. That's what it's going to be. You know, they they have extension of jobless benefits because the government shutdown was such a miserable, bad idea that has put people out of jobs.

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It's all pain using your grandchildren's money. Remember, this money comes from somewhere they had and they now have this new theory that the money can just be printed forever. You know, that's that's got to work out. Well, what could possibly go wrong with that? So it's all about this failure. It is all about this incredible failure. And meanwhile, meanwhile, nine hundred million dollars for a nine hundred million dollar Ford plant project was pulled from Ohio and moved to Mexico.

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Would that have happened under Trump? You wouldn't have because Trump would have shown up at their door screaming bloody murder. So they're propping up local governments that have failed. They're doing all this stuff with your children's money. And meanwhile, meanwhile, they're talking about, you know, the covid emergency is passing the disease. The Chinese virus is not going to go away. It's going to be around. But obviously, now that I personally have been vaccinated, you're all safe because you're all living in my imagination.

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So if I'm not going to die, you will continue to be alive. So that's that's starting to go away. But they have. But the Democrats have, as they always have. They always have an investment in crisis and in panic because it's in crisis and in panic that we tend to see the power of the people to the government, which obviously is the whole point.

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So Biden made the speech at the one year anniversary of when the show declared, finally came out and said, oh, this is a pandemic. They've been lining up to the one year anniversary of the telling the truth, which I guess is something to celebrate. And Biden makes this speech. It was just incredible. Ten, I think. Right.

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We do this together by July the 4th. There's a good chance you, your families and friends will be able to get together in your backyard or in your neighborhood and have a cookout and a barbecue and celebrate Independence Day.

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That doesn't mean large events with lots of people together, but it does mean small groups will be able to get together after this long, hard year that will make this Independence Day something truly special.

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So the reason this is funny for a bunch of reasons when it's funny because he doesn't even know that people are already getting together, people are ignoring them. You know, Florida is basically open. And now even some of the mainstream media are admitting that Ron DeSantis got this right. He took reasonable precautions. He didn't sell it. He didn't sit around and say, like some of these right wing blowhards, this thing doesn't exist and masks don't work. He was absolutely responsible.

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He opened the schools with precaution. The schools have not been super spreaders. They've now done that study. The economy hasn't been hurt as badly. Their death toll is much, much better than New York State, where the great heroic Andrew Cuomo was chasing girls around the. Know like all of their men, you know, I mean, that's what that's what Andrew Cuomo was doing with the mainstream media, was singing Hallelujah. Rhonda Santos was handling this responsibly.

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It was all wrong. Everything about it was wrong. And now he's telling us, oh, you know, if you're very good, if you're very good, you might be able to mean not with big people and not a lot of big crowds for Independence Day, because after all, Independence Day is not to celebrate your freedom from people like Joe Biden. It's to celebrate the fact that maybe you can creep out of your house wearing six masks and have a small barbecue where you all face I mean, Anthony Fauci, by the way, and I have it on pretty good authority, the Foushee.

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She's a good doctor. He's just a bad politician that once he got swept up into politics, once he was on TV every night, he sort of became a buffoon. He fell into that thing. But I mean, he at this point sounds like a crazy man. It's like a double vaccine and you're wearing six masks. You should be able to sit with your grandmother if she's facing east and wearing a bandana around her face and dead. You know, that's I mean, at this point, it's possible to understand the way he's saying.

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The other part of this thing that is funny. Oh, then, by the way, he threatened a Joe Biden, threatened if you don't if you don't obey, obey, or we're going to have to shut you down again. We're going to shut everybody down again.

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The media was hilarious. Mollie Hemingway the the best of all possible Malis wrote in The Federalist. This thing about how incredibly shameful the administration told the media may describe this as a hopeful speech. You know, you might be able to meet with your dead grandmother on Independence Day. If you're very good and they are not good, we're going to shut you down again, just as it was an embarrassing speech. And they write, oh, another reminder in The Washington Post, another reminder how Trump failed that the responsibility of soothing the fears of a rattled nation.

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POLITICO It's hard to imagine any other contemporary politician making the speech Joe Biden did Thursday night, both channeling our collective sorrow and reminding us that there is life after grief if you're very, very good and obey and obey.

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And it's just I mean, this is the failure of the levees. The Biden crab fest is just it's sad. You know, it's sad that they put this doddering old man in because because they thought he would be the face on their leftist policies. But they're leftist policies are just bailing out old leftist policies. They're leftist policies are nothing new. They're just bailing out policies that didn't work with your your grandchildren's money.

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Plus plus, it does not matter. You can wear sixteen masks. You can wear one hundred and twenty masks. You can sit with your back, you can watch your grandmother die through a glass pane. You can never go out of your room again. If people are storming across the border and they are, if they're storming across in record numbers, it doesn't matter, they're going to bring it right back in again. You know, there's a possibility that if the beginning of this they had shut the borders and shut down everything for maybe six weeks, they could have beaten it.

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They could have beaten it back. There's a possibility that would have worked. But they didn't do any of those things and all that. This is true of all the free countries. The free countries don't want to be locked down. They don't want you to tell them what to do. So all the free countries did worse than the slave countries. The slave countries are going to have a better time, an easier time shutting things down than they did.

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But it's Biden who invited these people across the border even when he was campaigning, he said they should come. Here's a clip, a flashback of Biden saying they should surge at the border.

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What I would do as president is several more things because things have changed. I would, in fact, make sure that there is we immediately surge to the border. All those people are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. We're a nation that says if you want to flee and you're seeing oppression, you should come.

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It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. That's who we are. It's like these people when they say, well, if the children come, we'll take care of them. Are you are you joking? You know, these children are being sent away by their parents, are being put in the hands of coyotes. They're being raped. They're being murdered.

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This is a you know, and Trump Trump came up with a finally came up with the solution. It took him a while, but finally he started stopping people on the other side of the border and it worked and to their absolute disgrace because on top of on top of failing, on top of paying with your grandchildren's money for their failures, on top of calling you racist in every kind of phobia phobic, if you point out that they are failing, they have to lie.

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And Jen Psaki, Jen Psaki, she it's I feel bad for her. I really do.

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You know, people were saying last night on backstage, well, maybe we shouldn't feel bad for her. But, you know, I always feel bad for the press secretary of every president because they always end up just lying to the public, as Qantas Owens pointed out on backstage, Jen. Soki probably isn't even talking to Biden because who could who could talk to him and she goes out and this is what she says about the border crisis, which he accidentally called a crisis for the first time, we recognize this is a big problem.

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The last administration left us a dismantled and unworkable system. And like any other problem, we are going to do everything we can to solve it.

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So that's the Obama playbook, right? Everything that goes wrong was the previous president's fault. Everything goes right when Donald Trump comes into office was actually Obama, to Obama's credit, they're going to keep playing that playbook until the thing collapses, because you can't just keep throwing Make-Believe money at something and think it's going to go on. They tried that in the Soviet Union. It obviously doesn't work. It's not going to work here. It's just a question of time.

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What they're counting on, what they're counting on is the boom that the economists say is coming. Economists say a boom is coming because that was a false depression. It was a lockdown. A government caused depression. It's going to go away and there's going to be the boom that follows. And what they're hoping is that it'll just come right for the timing of the election and the way God feels about us right now. It would not surprise me if they were right the other day on all access.

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You know, we do these wonder if you're not an all access subscriber and you're missing this. You're missing really good shows where you can ask questions. It's like I sort of asked me anything thing and I do it once a week. Someone asked me, how do you become wise? And I said, well, the first thing is you've got to read. Reading is like the little numbers on towels because it increases the surface area of your knowledge and you have to read seriously and read for self-improvement.

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But I said that there are two big mistakes that smart people make. And I said one of them is that they think they have to be right. They think that being right is the path to wisdom. But the path to wisdom is not in being right. The path to wisdom is, is to admitting you're wrong quickly is saying you're wrong and accepting the shame. See, this is the thing that people are avoiding that shame of saying, yes, it was wrong for me to be a slut.

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It was wrong for me to get this fat. I have to change this. It's my fault I take this on if you can't do that. And a lot of smart people spend a lot of time and energy explaining to you why they were right when they were wrong. And the other thing is rewriting the moral order. We talked about that before. But right now, the left cannot simply admit and leftist thinkers and there are leftist thinkers, leftist intellectuals simply cannot say this does not work.

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They can be upset about inequality. They should be upset. I think the right to start to think harder about inequality. They can be upset about racism. They can be upset about the poor. Those are all fair subjects to be upset about. But their solutions do not work. And instead of throwing my grandchildren's money and their children's money at these problems to prop them up until the whole structure collapses, stop, admit you're wrong and start having discussions among all of us about how we can fix these problems and go forward.

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They just can't do it and they won't do it.

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The the path into deeper and deeper sin.

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I'm just going to use the word my wife pretty it up. The path is always not accepting your shame, not correcting your mistakes, but more and more rationales. And what do you have to do if you're wrong and the left is just wrong. They're wrong about they're not always wrong about their concerns. I mean, some of their concerns are absolutely valid. They are wrong about the in their rebellion against creation. That is what they're wrong about. They are not wrong in their rebellion against the old elites.

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They're wrong. And their rebellion against creation.

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The the only thing you can do if you're wrong is lie and force other people not to tell the truth. And that's what we're seeing. That's the council culture is forcing other people not to tell the truth. And the lying is what has happened to the press. The press is just lying. I got to go back. I opened with this, but I got to go back to this Washington Post story because it's such an unbelievable failure of journalism and nobody is going to be accountable for it.

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Nobody's going to be disciplined for it. Nobody's going to get fired. Nobody's going to show shame. Nobody's really even going to admit is just going to be gone. This find the fraud story that came out, you'll remember in January after the election was that Trump pressured the Georgia elections investigator to find the fraud. Here's just a part of it from Amy Gardner at The Washington Post. President Trump urged Georgia's lead elections investigator to, quote, find the fraud in a lengthy December phone call, saying the official would be a national hero, according to an individual familiar with the call, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the conversation.

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And I remember I've always told you this, the whole problem with an anonymous source is, you know, the source has a motive, but you don't know what it is. You do not know what it is. And that's the same for the journalist. If the way you're supposed to use an anonymous source and I've been a reporter, I've used anonymous sources, is you then go to the person in the know the official and hold up the information to him or her and see if they confirm it.

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That's how you get a story. So the interesting thing about this is not just that The Washington Post blew a huge story accusing the president of basically of committing a felony, of basically trying to overturn the election dishonestly. It's not just that. It's that the entire media had the same source and confirmed the story. Here's here are big media outlets confirming the Washington Post story.

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Is President Trump personally called Georgia's lead in elections investigator and demanded that person produce evidence which didn't exist and, quote, find the fraud, adding that if they did so, they would be a, quote, national hero.

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The Washington Post reported yesterday that President Trump called a Georgia election investigator and pressured him to, quote, find the fraud.

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And President Trump apparently pressured an election investigator to find the fraud again, not the phone call out of Georgia. Another one, but we now know of a second.

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There's so much a second call from President Trump to Georgia officials about trying to overturn the election. He reportedly told an elections investigator in Cobb County to, quote, find the fraud and then that person would be a national hero.

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So, I mean, and now and now, basically, little correction in The Washington Post. It's the story has been covered. But but that's it is if somebody had said, you know, you whatever your name is, Joe Smith, you know, you're a serial killer. And then three months later, they said, no, you're not sorry, I made a mistake. You know, there's absolutely no this went into the impeachment trial.

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This was part of the impeachment. While in the House of Representatives, Madeleine Dean used it in the House impeachment hearings, quoting the Washington Post story was Madeleine Dean.

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A few weeks later, on December twenty third, Trump called the chief investigator for the for the Georgia Bureau of Investigations, who was conducting an audit, an audit of the signature matching procedures for absentee ballots.

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Trump urged him to find the fraud and claimed the official would be a national hero if he did.

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Let's call this what it is. He was asking the official to say there was evidence of fraud when there wasn't any an anonymous source story that turned out to be here.

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Let's play the tape. Here's. I can't play the whole tape, but here's the conversation between Trump and the Georgia secretary of state, Francis Watson. It gives the tone of what he was saying to her. And I want everything.

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But, you know, and I want you to know that by a lot and the people know it and, you know, something happened, something bad happened. And I hope you're doing it now, because if you don't, you're going back two years as opposed to just checking, you know, one against the other. And that would just be sort of a signature in anything. But if you go back two years and if you can get there, you're going to find things that are going to be unbelievable, the dishonesty.

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I mean I mean, the thing is, The New York Times wrote during the midterms, before the presidential election, during the midterms, they wrote a story after story about the mess I think was there were the mess in Georgia, the election mess, the possibility of fraud. They didn't like the Dominion machines. They thought they could be hacked, all the things that Trump ended up saying. But, of course, then they flipped and they did that ridiculous story where they called up the secretary of state's of every state.

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And by golly, there was not one fraudulent vote in the entire United States. And if you said it was you were kicked off YouTube. If you said he was kicked off Twitter, you know, you've got to lie and you've got to silence the people who tell the truth. And once you do that, you're in Orwell's oppressive, oppressive land. And that's kind of what we're moving into.

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And people keep saying, oh, well, you know, Amazon has the right to not sell books. I YouTube as the right to kick you off. But basically it's big tech gutting, gutting your free speech rights. So what you have to have a press. You have to have a press that is essentially profit, that is lying all the time. And when somebody says a simple truth that something is failing, if you can't accept the failure, you've got to shut them down.

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Tucker Carlson, to his credit, when he went after WOAK rules in the military because WOAK rules are in their category or they're a false way of assembling people, you want people in the military, you want the most lethal fighters, you want the toughest guys. You want the biggest guys, the meanest guys. That's what you want in the military. And he went up and started talking about the rules they're having for the WOAK military while China basically and I have to say, like Trump, China is building up their military, really ready to take us out after they go into Taiwan.

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And here's what Tucker Carlson said the military is doing.

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One of those recommendations was to, quote, remove aptitude test barriers that adversely impact diversity.

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Separately, the Pentagon is now reportedly considering lowering fitness standards for female recruits. The military had adopted a gender neutral test that scored men and women on the same basis, the idea being they would have to fight the same wars. Turns out, though, that far more than half of the women who took the test failed it. So they apparently are ditching that. The question is whether or not this helps diversity. Will it help us win wars and defend the country?

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That's Tucker basically defending creation that has been defending reality, defending the fact that we need certain kinds of people to fight wars, that pregnant women can't fight wars. And of course, of course, because this is obviously a failure, because this would be admitting that their entire philosophy, their entire approach is a rebellion against creation, the military breaking 200 plus years of policy and violating a true, true Republican principle. When I say Republican, I mean with a small R, which is that the military should not get involved in political fights.

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The military went after Tucker Carlson. Here is the guy from Space Command complaining that Tucker Carlson has never been in the military.

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I understand some comments were made yesterday. And I watched the clip that Mr. Carlson produced as he referred to pregnant women in the military. I'll remind everyone that his opinion, which he has a right to, is based off of actually zero days of service in the armed forces. Let's get back to work. Let's remember that those opinions were made by an individual who has never served a day in his life. Let's remember, that's all about drama TV. God Bless America.

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Semper Fidelis.

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An ad hominem attack on a journalist, on a journalist making a giving an opinion given his point from the military. And it was widespread. It was all over Twitter. Kirchlechner, a military veteran, wrote a column where he said, The one thing you can say about Tucker Carlson is he has won as many wars in the last 20 years as the American military, and he has lost fewer wars than the American military. The American military is actually getting weaker.

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It really is. We have all the equipment we need. We used 20, 20 years ago. Twenty five years ago, we were incredibly lethal. But at the same time, the Chinese are building up their navy, ready to sink our ships the same time they were getting ready to go into Taiwan and dare us to come after them. We're fiddling around with making pregnant women flight suits for women in the Air Force. And when somebody comes out and tells the truth, he has to be attacked.

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He has to be attacked. So principle goes by the board. The idea of a military run by civilians goes by the board. The idea that journalists should be left alone by the military, all of that has to go. It has to it has to be follow this bad idea because there are good ideas and bad ideas. You follow a bad idea down the road. You know where it ends up. It ends up the same place that the road to good intentions end up.

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And it's where they're heading. It's the end of the left, really. That's what we're watching. But it's just a question of how long they can prop it up with your grandkids money.

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Yeah that's right. But say it like you mean it. So, as you know, we're always making pathetic, desperate attempts to class up the show and you think almost nothing would work, but this time, this time I think we finally made it. We have Candice Owens, who hopefully now and forever more will be I can simply introduce her as the host of Candace, a new talk show that will premiere right after my show at 8:00 p.m. Central, 9:00 Eastern and some God awful time in California.

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Hello. It's so good to see you welcoming myself to The Daily Wire.

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You're going to see me a lot more.

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We're thrilled. We are thrilled. And I have to I was just saying off camera that I'm so rooting for the show. I think it is a really important thing, even rooting for me.

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Since the beginning, I have been rooting for them and since the beginning, absolutely true.

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So we're going to talk about politics, but before that, we were on backstage together and I have some personal questions that actually came into my mind as I was sitting there. I mean, you know, I'm a novelist. I'm thinking I was thinking to myself, I'm writing the character Candice Owens.

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And five years ago, you're on YouTube mouthing off like everybody on YouTube. And now the curtain opens and you're sitting on this fairly. You know, there's major talk show that is really different than anything that's ever been on television. What is going through that character's mind when that happens? Oh, wow, it's funny, it's so difficult to pause, it feels like everything has been a rocket ship since I was on YouTube and doing my first video and just saying something different, I guess, to saying something different as a black American and also being, I think, more audacious.

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I always say there were so many more intelligent black conservatives that have come before me, Condoleezza Rice, Dr. Condoleezza Rice, Dr. Thomas, all telling you all of this.

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Right.

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And yet I remember having a conversation with Dr. Ben Carson, a literal actual brain surgeon, and he said to me, I don't know how you've been able to make such tries to short amount of time. And I haven't been able to that we've been doing this for so long. And I said, well, the difference is you were too polite, right? And I said that Jim and is sitting in his office. He was too polite. And I think that what I what that character thinks is that having the courage really to stand by your convictions, but also to do it in a way that allows them to know that you're not going to take that nonsense and be, you know, spoken down to or just accept being called a coon or castigated because of daring to think for myself because I'm an individual.

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I would probably that character would think, wow, this is this is really amazing. This is a wonderful moment to be in. And it's because I believed it myself. Yeah.

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Yeah. No, and I used to say this to people in Hollywood because a lot of people in Hollywood come up to me and drop their voices and say, you know, I saw you on Hannity and I was like, why? Why are we whispering? We were right. We're in the right. You know, I think that that's the right attitude to take. You know, the other thing that occurred to me as we were talking on backstage, as you mentioned, that you have gone back to the church and it's not something I've heard you talk about a lot.

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And if you don't want to talk about it, I won't, you know, because in conservatism, sometimes the church becomes almost the badge. You know, I'm a conservative. I go to church or something like that. Is this actually a movement in your life toward God?

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Yeah, I don't speak about it often. And you're correct. And I remember early on having a discussion with Ali Stucchi, and she was kind of trying to figure out if now that I was conservative, I was going to come out and be like, and I'm a Christian because I'm conservative. And that's the kind of like the Joe Biden and I'm a Catholic. And then plus some pretty good.

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I actually was raised in a Christian household. And when I say Christian household, I mean every single morning we had to say the Bible. I've written in my book about my grandfather and the influence that my grandfather has had. And I just for for us, we were just, I guess, Bible Belt. My grandfather, faith has always been dominant in his life, faith and family. And when I was growing up, I was very embarrassed to be a Christian.

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I was because once you start socializing, being somebody that was raised reading my book of Bible stories and having Bible studies and every morning having a Bible study around the breakfast table became embarrassing. I was ashamed because I wanted to be cool. Right. Because secularism teaches you that you can be either or you can be cool and hip or you can be a Christian and you can go to church with your family. And so I fell away once I moved out of my grandfather's house, away from my childhood, and I became more liberal and I fell.

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OK, this is the cool. I'm going to be cool now. And in being cool, I was dying on the inside. I was just dying on the inside. I was so miserable when I was a liberal. I was I didn't write. I lacked confidence. I was miserable. And I was doing these things that were supposed to make me feel freer. And yet in many ways it was it was more like bondage. And when my grandmother died in twenty thirteen, it hit my family.

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In a way. It was just it was really, really hard. It was a very quick death. We didn't know that she was going to die. She was in the hospital and she was dead two weeks later and it broke all of us. I mean, it's still it's still very difficult for me to talk about losing my grandmother because she was a mother to us and she was just a woman who I can't think of a more perfect human being.

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I'm a grandmother. Never even swore if she ever got mad. When she got really mad, she would call you a dodo bird.

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She'd say, Oh, he's a dodo bird. And that's tough.

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Yeah. And so when she died, I just sort of had to face myself in a different way. Meaning I remember the last thing she said to me was that CANDIS, I worry about you and I was being cool as I walked into the hospital because she's supposed to be out in a couple of days. And I had this purse. I'll never forget Stella McCartney purse. And I was like living in New York City. And she just looked at me as if this isn't the child that I raised up.

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Cimolino and Genesis. It talks about trying to raise up a child and it just it transformed things for me. I sort of said, wait a second, my grandparents, they got something right, you know, married when they were seventeen. Stay together until my grandmother's dying day in twenty thirteen. They were religious. They actually steered far away from secularism, were not never involved in politics. And they were the greatest examples. And they had. That I ever knew, and it just kind of made me change things, and when I met my husband, who is also deeply religious, his father sits in the House of Lords and Christianity is the DNA of everything that he does.

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He does work on the family has been studied theology at Oxford. It just sort of, you know, just brought me right back to where where I started.

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It was coming back. I was coming home. I was coming home. So one of the things that always bothers me, we're talking about Thomas Sowell and Shelby Steele at one of my favorite political writers, Shelby Steele. But but if you're black.

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That's what you get asked about. That's what you get us to talk about, and there's obviously so many things right now in politics, it's such a big issue that is hard to get away from it. So here's something I actually want to know, because as an old white guy, I lived a white life when I heard people say Black Lives Matter, we were raised. We were taught that we were all Americans. We were all together in this, and we were not going to live that life.

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Is there such a thing as a black life?

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It's just a life just alike. But there is such a thing as a black life. You know, if you have political interests that you're looking to further and you're the Democrats and you realize that you can gain advantage by really drumming up racial issues and pretending that we're all so different and we're all segregated. You know, the Democrats originally were the people behind authoring racial policies, segregation and things of that nature, and they're behind it again. So they really haven't steered far from their roots either.

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Right. Right. So it's a black life is imposed on you. It's not actually something you live. No, it is not something you live.

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You know, one of the things that I've noticed, having grown up in America where you knew what an American looked like, not by the color of his skin, but by the look in his eyes because he was thinking, I come from there, but I'm headed there. And that's how you knew you see it with the Koreans who came in. You'd see it with the Irish. You see today when I see that look in somebody's eyes, it's almost always a young black person.

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They have got they've got it. You know, the obstacles have been taken out of the way. People are rooting for them. I think in real life, outside of Democrat politics, people are actually rooting for them. And I meet people all the time who have got plans and they've got you know, they've got ambitions and they're building businesses. And and I just keep thinking, why do they have to it? Doesn't this Black Lives matter or this whole Democratic Party does not get in their way, does not stop them.

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Of course it's up to them.

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You know, any anybody that's telling you, even if there was this big issue in America surrounding race, which I do not believe there is, and statistically there just is not there's no proof of that. You start looking at the data. There's just no proof of that.

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But even if there was, you know, the idea that you're telling a bunch of black people that every time a black person dies, your response should be to riot and to loot and to steal television. Right. From Wal-Mart or from Target because you deserve it. I mean, what is that? You're just teaching them to act like toddlers. And there's a reason for that. And I do truly believe and I spoke about this obviously backstage, is that they are trying to turn black Americans into permanent toddlers who don't have a grasp of anything outside of their own emotions.

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Right. So to a toddler, genuinely, you look at a toddler and they're really crying about not being able to have can if it's real to them. Right.

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So that they don't care about the statistics of what, you know, obesity. They don't care about that stuff of reality. It is like I need this for dinner. Right. And this is sort of the this is the psychological programming that's happening toward black Americans right now via Black Lives Matter. Right. Like this is all you need to care about. Obsess over is race, horse race. Nothing else matters. Look at the stats that are nothing you are justified in.

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Screaming is such a dangerous, dangerous thing to do. And like I said, remove black American trauma. Imagine toddlers justifying that, right? You're right. Yeah, you're right. You can't know you're right. You're right. You didn't watch TV all day. Right? Remember what would happened to that person, to that to that little person when they grow up?

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You know, I say this when I when I spoke at colleges before the lockdowns and all this and I would talk to a black guy, I would say guy, the guy if a politician told me that I wasn't able to do something without him as a guy, I would tell them to get stuff and walk away. I would never vote for a politician who told me I was helpless.

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You know, it's unmanly.

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It unmarrieds people now. Do you? Do you. Confront people about this, you do it is implicit racism like you wouldn't believe, and it's like you don't you're not even aware of your own racism. And I'll give you a quick little anecdote. We obviously just moved into Nashville. Right. And my husband and I were outside. We had some construction outside and the neighbors came down to meet us. Super nice couple. My husband was outside first talking to them and they were keeping the conversation friendly.

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And then I was like, oh, I'll go down and I'll I'll go say hi to and I get down there and I'm like, Oh, this is my wife Candace. And they look at me and they say, look, interracial couple, she's black. Why they in politics. So they said, well, you guys are so lucky. You just moved into town now before they used to be nothing but Nazis. We said, oh really?

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They said, yeah.

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But, you know, we've done some redistricting and and things are better now here in Nashoba. You got here just in time. That is such implicit racism to look at someone and say, I already know your politics. I know you're a Democrat because you're black. Right.

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Right. So now we're comfortable. Hey, let's have a conversation about the Nazis next door. All right. So it's and it happens all the time. They just think they know everything about me because of the color of my skin.

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So there have been articles recently that the leftward drift of the Democratic Party is actually leaving minorities behind, that Hispanics and blacks are just going like, this is not what we voted for. This is not what they voted for Biden because of that stupid look on his face that says he's a moderate. Are people catching on or is that an illusion?

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They've been catching on. It's not an illusion because think about the fact that you have had no president who has been harassed more with claims of being a racist in a white supremacist than Donald Trump. Right. And that's incredible because you had presidents who were sitting in office who were actually racist. Right. And they they had never faced charges of racism like Donald Trump faced. And yet, despite that, in twenty twenty, he gained eight points amongst black men.

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He doubled the support amongst black women. What does that tell you? Hispanic vote? Yeah. What does that tell you? That the race narrative is failing. So I try to get people to focus on that and to realize that the rhetoric is falling short. And they know that if you look at Democrats right now, they're not acting like winners. They're not.

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Yeah, I agree to go we don't go out to everybody who's ever an opponent and and make them go away. And this person and these people are insurrectionist and bull and all over here and and make it go away. Oh, and by the way, we beat him so squarely and fairly that we want to make sure we pass laws so we can never run again out winners. And I'd be like, oh, I beat you so easily, I hope I'd run against you time and time again because you were an easy person to be.

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Yeah. So now that's good.

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I'm glad to hear it is hopeful. So what do you want the show. Kandace again this comes on after my show at 8:00 Central Time, 9:00 Eastern Time. And like I said, you know, I'm not somebody who watches talk shows, but this is a show that I really feel is important. What do you hope it'll be?

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You know, I hope it will be me when I say that. I think that when I entered the space of politics, I was kind of questions from both sides because people said, oh, well, you can't be in politics and also enjoy culture and people like you can't be in cult. You can't go from, you know, having a debate with Cardi B to so then wanting to sit down and have an interview with Vice President Pence. And I said, why not?

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You can't go from hanging out with Kanye West to hanging out with Ben Shapiro. Why not? Right. And so I have always understood what Andrew Breitbart savage that politics is downstream from culture is correct. It is is beautifully said, perfectly said. And I understand that they're constantly speaking to each other. And I want my show to be exactly that. I want to I want to straddle that line. I want I want it to be a show where one week Kanye West could be sitting down and I could be interviewing him the following week.

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You know, I just put out a public request to sit down with Vladimir Putin, that I could sit down with him and discuss foreign policy. And so that is what you're going to get. And I think in the beginning you're going to monologue. These will be written for me every week about just what's on my heart, what's on my mind, and really kind of getting America for the first time to focus on the issues, because I think right now and some of the life is really good at is like creating this 80 day something happens.

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It's a lot of crazy stuff, a lot of headlines, and they move on very quickly. And then you go, wait a second. But this thing that you said actually didn't come to fruition or actually was wrong, but now they're creating a fire over here. So we're not looking. And I also want to be able to go back and to digest with Americans and say, no, this was really important and we need to talk about this.

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That's great. In a longer fashion. Yeah. If you do sit down with Putin, don't drink the tea.

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That's the only luxury. Any change, anything that's going on. So so what if you were to pick three issues?

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You know, these are the things that I think are really on on Americans minds or should be what would they be?

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I think at this exact moment, I would say domestic terrorism. And I put that in parentheses. I think there's a lot of really scary stuff going on in terms of conservatives being silenced and this idea of domestic terrorism being used by, you know, the FBI people showing up at people's doorsteps and saying, why were you here is something to be alarmed about. So I want to really talk about what's going on in this country. The education system is high up there, kids feeling like they can't speak up or, you know, this propaganda being told to just remember the answers and do not think critically and obey or have your lives ruined, it is really scary.

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So that's the angle towards young people. And then, of course, I would just say culture. I mean, it's I'm saying a lot of people think it's always dumb. Why do we care about the Queen or and Meghan Markle and why do we care about Khateeb? Let me tell you what the political messages let me tell you why you need to care about these issues and what they're actually doing. And you think it's just grandma's performance. You think it's just Meggan, you know, and and Harry being brats.

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But there are there are more important things that we are talking about here about shows the corrosion of values and services are slow about this. They have been, but it has changed. It actually changed with Trump.

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They started to realize that it was me that happened at the same time. Who knows? You know you know, the one the one last thing I want to talk about is that along with being black, you're also a lady. And, you know, you had this argument with Cardi B that was really fascinating, talking about the fact that she was kind of degrading herself and all this. But but you see a lot that you have an audience of young girls.

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And this is I feel that that women are actually being trained. They're trying to convince women to become extinct. What do you want them to see when you come on stage? When you do the show, what do you want them to see?

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I want them to see that in many ways, America, America threw out the baby with the bathwater. And what I mean by that is that there were some things in America that definitely needed to be fixed right out of segregation, racism. Of course, there were things that America was not great, but there were some things that America was really getting right. And progressivism is teaching young girls is that everything about America was right and wrong and backwards. That idea of you wanting to be married and being in a household with them, trying to hold on to a new form of slavery, and that couldn't be further from the truth.

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I want to teach them that discipline making good decisions. It sounds weird and it sounds paradoxical, but discipline does lead to more freedom. It does. It does. Right. And that these people that you are following and thinking, these people that are so cool and so hip, you need to really examine their lives and ask yourself one question, which is, is that individual happy? Is that the lifestyle I want to lead? And nine out of ten times you will say no.

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So why am I following this person? Conservatism works. Traditional American values work, family works, and self respect and dignity also work.

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It's funny. People wanted to be let in. That was the problem with segregation. So we were keeping people out. Not that the values were bad, but that the door was closed. When you open the door, you should come in and take part in those values. That's what the Kansas so I always love talking to is great and it's great to see you and I'm so glad you're here. Your show is Candace Creative name for a show and it comes on after my show today.

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Premieres right after my show today at 8:00.

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And that's 9:00 Eastern Time. Wonderful to see you. I hope to see a lot more. We definitely.

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Well, all right. You have crawled desperately to this moment, wading through the the fever of your own fever of anticipation to get to the mailbag.

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Here it is, the mailbag. We need everyone to keep washing their hands. I was great, that was your best ever, but I should be there should be an Oscar for that. All right. From David Hale, Lord of the Multiverse and slayer of E's, who is no relation to Spencer Glavan. Something I've noticed in the culture dating back even into the 80s and 90s, is that even when Marxist communist socialism socialists are portrayed as the bad guys, the underlying evil of Marxism and Marxist philosophy is never indited.

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The bad guys are bad guys because they're bad guys, not because they're Marxist. Do you think the pervasiveness of Marxist thought among the cultural influences is so prevalent that they actually can't accurately analyze the evils committed by those who share their ideological leanings? Well, yes, first of all, is a great observation is absolutely true. I mean, I've seen movies where the Socialists are the bad guys, but the ultimate blame lies somehow with Adolf Hitler, you know?

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I mean, they never it never occurs to anybody that maybe the blame for Adolf Hitler lies with the socialists. So maybe he wouldn't have been elected if people hadn't been so afraid, rightfully afraid of socialism. But it's a really excellent observation. There's a famous old movie, an anti-communist movie named Pick Up and find out, pick up on South Street, pick up on South Street. And it's an anti-communist film. But there's an American woman who's kind of a working class woman who says at the end, communism is bad.

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And somebody says why? And she says, I don't know why. It just is. And I always wish there had been a better line in there because somebody should explain it.

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You know, the problem we have with Marxism and the wonderful disguise that Marxism has is that it comes with a set of values that capitalism doesn't have. Capitalism has no values. You have to bring your values to capitalism. And as we see, people don't want those values because they can't stand the shame. They can't stand the restriction on themselves. They can't stand the restriction on their freedom. That comes with acknowledging that creation has a meaning with this such a thing as good and evil.

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So they think they can replace that. They think they can replace a free commitment, the God's good with a system that will force them into doing the right thing. So Marxism has this comfortable thing where it comes along with the value of equality. Capitalism doesn't have that. Capitalism doesn't even have the value of making money. It doesn't have the value of making money. It just has the value that if you want to make money, this is how you do it in free trade.

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And as I always say, the Ayn Rand fans are absolutely wrong. You can't just have capitalism. You can't just worship money. You have to bring values. You have to bring your values to capitalism. You cannot it's perfectly good capitalism to invent a car that kills people and then hide it from people because the lawsuits will cost you less than fixing the car. That's maybe good capitalism, but it's evil. You have to have values first. And if you have values, you've got to admit that there's such a thing as values.

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You've got to admit that the world has meaning, the creation as meaning. You're back right back where you started from. They lean in to the Marxist values, thinking it will save them when in fact all it can do is enslave them. And that's part of why imaginative people, because the imagination is where capitalism, where Marxism works, it works and it works great in your imagination, just in reality, where it falls apart. That is why imaginative people, I think, are so drawn to Marxism, because, yeah, you know, I'm an actor.

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I'm going to cheat on my first five wives. And then when I'm 80, I'll marry a 20 year old girl and we'll stay together and everybody will say what a wonderful marriage it was. Yeah, I'm going to do all that, but I'm going to be good because I believe in Marxism, because I believe in people getting taxed, taxed, although my riches are all in the Cayman Islands where nobody can touch them, you know, that's basically what it does.

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It gives you it gives you a shroud of virtue to protect you from not having to be virtuous yourself or strive. None of us is righteous. No, not one. But we strive toward virtue and toward righteousness. And so I think it yeah, it's very hard for people to say the system that promises a quality that promises to treat the poor well is a bad system and doesn't work and why it doesn't work. Now we have to look at why it doesn't work.

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And that's going to take you on a ride that's going to end up at the throne of God. And you're not going to like it there because then you're going to feel bad about who you are. You know, that's that's really what I think it is. I think that Marxism is just attractive for those reasons. From Ethan, I guess I'm supposed to say big fan. Yeah. I mean, don't just say I guess I'm supposed to say just said no.

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I'm a senior in high school going to university next year. Wish me luck. But for my senior independent novel project, I was able to sneak in your book. If we survive, I appeal. That's very funny. If we survive as a young adult novel, an adventure novel takes place in a Central American country and its politics are kind of plane I absolutely love. It's such a great adventure. My plan is to totally slam one of the characters and how he represents young people's view toward America and ideas of socialism, communism.

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This will undoubtedly make my teacher enraged, but his senior year. So I'll go out with a bang. My question is, how are we going to retake our school systems every year? My teachers are obviously and openly liberals. The left has taken our schools totally. Is there even any hope in reclaiming them? Thanks for reading. Be honest, you're my favorite out of the crew, even with Kansas on the team now. I don't know about that ducktail, Ben, love the show.

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Yeah. Elite Schools is a really good article about this by my sister, Caitlin Flanagan in The Atlantic and another one by Barry Weiss in City Journal about the way that elite schools, even while they are funnels for the rich to become the elites.

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That's what they are. They create places where the rich can be trained to be elites. They're also teaching them localness to the extent in Barry Weiss's article, to the extent where the parents are terrified, they're terrified because if they protest, their kid may lose his place, may lose his precious golden ticket to Yale and will therefore not become the success that they have bred him to be. And these are hardworking people. These are elite people, but they're people with two careers who are giving everything to get their kids this elite education so they can become part of the elite.

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But they have to train them to work. They have to teach them lies. They have to teach them all this stuff because the elite has failed. They have to enter a failed elite that is now lying, telling lies and censoring the truth. So they have to learn the lies and be forced to believe the lies in this doublethink, even as they know that they're untrue. And even as their parents are saying, we don't want their kids to learn this, they have to do this.

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This is the system for creating a new elite. And they don't want to create a new elite. They want to continue. The failed elite in the elite has failed. So that is what they're doing. So how do we take back the schools? We don't. We have to create educational systems of our own. We have to create we have to get out of this elite system. We have to start hiring. I mean, this is one thing the God King talks about all the time, which I just I think is right.

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You know, that we shouldn't we shouldn't hire according to the elites. I mean, look, we hired Noles, who went to Yale, and look how that turned out. So we should stop doing that. And we should know, you know, I mean, we should stop using their systems, but we also have to create our own. This is where Jeremy, I disagree. I think it is a good thing to go to college and to learn culture and to learn about literature and to learn about science and to get an advanced education.

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It may not be good for everybody. I don't I don't say it's good for everybody, but I think for those people, it's good for those people for whom it's good. It is good. But I do think we have to have new systems in Hillsdale is a great college which has been seeding educational places, home schooling. Obviously, charter schools are working. Some of these things are happening. And this, of course, is what the teachers unions, the corrupt teachers unions, where they should just be called, that the ACTU, the corrupt teachers union and of course, the Democratic Party, who received so much of their funding from the teachers union, are fighting against charter schools, have been shown undoubtedly to raise up minority kids.

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They don't want them. They want to shut them down because they hurt the teachers unions. Teachers unions don't like them, their public schools, charter schools, but they don't like them. And so they want to shut them down. They don't care that black kids and minority kids are not being educated. They don't care. They do not care because they are trying to support a dead system. So we have to start our own. We cannot just try to get our kids into Yale and transform Yale.

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I think that that train has left the station from John, your supreme and mighty cleverness. I procured a copy of your novel, The Scarred Man. That's an old one after you mentioned it on your show a couple of weeks ago. It arrived recently. So I haven't been able to pass the about the author. This was a book that I read when I was transitioning, as we say, from my pseudonym, Keith Peterson, to my real name, whatever it may be.

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My burning question, what is Keith Peterson have to say about you living with his wife and child? Does he even know seriously what are the benefits to writing under a pseudonym? And why might a writer choose to do so? Well, I can think of three reasons. I did it. I did it actually to get out of a contract. I was in a contract with a small press. I was writing very radical novels, you know, that weren't very good.

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But I was selling them to a small press and the small press had a contract. It was an infinite regress. You had to sell all your your next book to them. And then when you sold your next book to them, you had to sign a contract saying, I'll sell them my next book. So it was just went on forever. You had to keep selling them your books. And I was not making any money off these and I wanted to make some money.

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I knew I was a good thriller writer, so I started to write under a pseudonym to get out of that contract because the contract was with Andrew Klavan, not with Keith Peterson. And that helped me get out. But you can do it for a lot of reasons. Their brand, their branding reasons. For instance, if you write different kinds of novels, this is a problem. I've had all my career careers. I write a lot of different things.

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Mostly I've written crime and suspense, but I've also written like another kingdom is fantasy suspense. I've written different kinds of things. So you might say, well, I have there are a lot of writers like this is one in England whose name escapes me now, but he has two careers. One is a science fiction writer. One is a serious novel writer. And he uses two different names to accomplish that because he doesn't want people turning up for one thing and finding another thing and being disappointed because that's not good.

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So you might do it for branding purposes. And the other purpose, and one I wish I had done when I'd wish I'd done from the very beginning, is for anonymity.

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You know, writers are not people who want to be sitting in front of the camera talking some. Thing that I kind of found my way into accidentally, and it has been a wonderful experience, but it's not what I planned, I plan to hide in my room, right things perfect them, make every word perfect and then sell them and then possibly come out. I wanted to be Richard Burton. The actor once said that writers have it great because they can still get a great seat in a restaurant by calling in their famous name, but nobody recognizes them when they're there.

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And I think that that's something that a lot of writers want. A lot of writers want that. A lot of writers.

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I mean, you know, this is this is something you see in films. The writers want to create the picture, but they don't want to be the face of the picture. They're not interested in being the face of the picture. And I definitely have that strain in my personality. I want my things to come out. I want people to see my name. But I was perfectly happy not being recognized on the street. So that's another reason. So there are a lot of reasons you might use a pseudonym.

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And and I, I am sorry that I didn't stick with a pseudonym, but it was all such a mess because of the two names I was already using in such a way that I just thought the easiest thing to do was to move from Keith Peterson back to Andrew Cleveland. And that's what I did with the scarred man, which is an interesting novel. I mean, obviously, I would write it differently if I wrote it today, but it's a youthful model, a young novel, and it works in a lot of ways.

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All right. I think I'm going to have to stop there. I'm going to have to stop there and plunge you, toss you off the heights of the show of the Andrew Cleveland Show into the depths, the black, stormy, fiery depths of the CLAVON this week ahead. It will not be a cravenness week for those of you with an all access subscription. However, those of you who have that will be able to see me again on the all access show the rest of you.

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