Get down off that Sycamore branch, you songbird Barnard's Welcome to the Blind by my guest. What is the crack? Welcome this week to my new listeners, I'm sure I've got a ton of new listeners from last week's podcast where I had a fantastic chat with Graham Norton, the TV presenter. Thank you for all the lovely feedback for that. And it was very enjoyable to do. Graham is a lovely chap, and we got the idea of that right.

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Hogge, I hope all your glorious cons are wearing your masks when you're outside wearing your your coronavirus face masks, not just for yourself, but to protect other people. I'm wearing my well, it's you know, in Ireland it's mandatory. Now, if you go into a shop, it's mandatory to wear a mask, which is good. And it just makes sense. It's just a set of underpants for your face. If your genitals weren't in your mouth and your mouth genitals were pacing everywhere, then a set of underpants on your face are going to prevent people getting covered in your face.

So just just that, except with spit and a virus, you know. And. One thing, though, that I'm really what I'm fascinated, interested in, right? So. If if I was to walk into the supermarket. Now, I won't get in there without my mask, but if I was now to walk into a public place without my mask, but this is a strange conversation for me because I wear a plastic bag on my head.

I don't wear a plastic bag on my head when I go into shops, because when I go into shops, I'm not blind by. So I wear my coronaviruses mask when I'm in shops just like everyone else. But what I'm noticing is. If I walked into a shop now without my mask. I would feel note now I wouldn't feel like. Or, fuck, I'm not wearing my mask. This is risky. It's not a fear thing. It's now turning into it's registering in my brain as a type, as immodesty, like like if OK.

If I walk into a shop with no trousers on. It's going to feel incredibly strange. All right. Incredibly vulnerable and exposed and strange. And I think if I did that without my covid mask on, I would feel that way, my face. Feels naked. In a public place, my face, OK, I can walk around my own house with no pants or underpants on. It feels a bit chilly, but it's just me, so it doesn't feel odd.

Like, I'm kind of like, I wouldn't mind putting on a pair of pants to be warm, but I'll happily walk around with my bollocks out in my own house privately, and I don't feel immodest. I don't like that word, but it's the one that jumps to my head. I don't experience social anxiety in the privacy of my own home with my bollocks out, OK, if I was in Tesco or Aldi or whatever. Whip my bollocks out, I would experience extreme social anxiety that would feel odd.

Now I'm feeling that way, my face. It's like. Modesty, modesty has ingrained it's and it's it's the thing is it's a sensation. So if I walked into a shop, I think it happened by no, I was in. I was in gun stores and my mask was on upside down, so I took it off for like a second to change it. But in that second, when my mask was off my face for the first time in my life, experienced the sensation of nudity.

Because the thing with nobody in a public situation. It's it's a tangle. There's a nudity, the experience of noted in a public situation has a specific type of tango to it, it's a physical anxiety. You get it if you're in if you're in a change in Rome or if you find yourself in a situation where you're in the public, if you're in school and one of your friends pull your pants down, I can't remember specific instances where I would have had that happen.

But I definitely I know the feeling. And when I was in the supermarket last week and I had to take my mask off my my covid mask off for under 10 seconds to reverse it and put it back. Within those 10 seconds, I experienced the tangle of nudity on my face, the. Anxious, it's an anxiety that is physically localized around the area that feels nude in a public situation. If I walked into that shop with no trousers on, no underpants on, bollocks out, it wouldn't even require people to stare at me.

I would I would experience the sensation of nudity. And as I said earlier, the sensation of nudity. It's not about being nude. It's when shame is is internalized to the surface of your skin. I don't feel this in my house in private. I just feel cold, but in a public situation, it's different and I felt it in my face or my mask wasn't and it's only started, I found that fucking fascinating. You know, it's like the anxiety and the the stress hormones.

Of being in a situation where you would elicit public shame, those stress hormones localized to the area as as a heightened sensation, it felt like the hairs on my face had stood up for a few seconds. And it's only started since men mandatory mask wearing because what enforces it? It's not it's not even about coronavirus, it's about pulling your weight. The fact of the matter is, if you're in the supermarket and everybody's wearing a mask, no one wants to wear a mask.

I don't want to like by which I mean I. OK, I want to wear a mask to keep other people and myself safe. But masks aren't comfortable, you know what I mean, they're not they're not pleasant to wear, so nobody wants to go into the shop and it's like, excellent, can't wait to put my mask on. We do it out of a sense of duty and responsibility. And because it's mandatory, so when everyone else has to wear their mask, if one person doesn't.

Then that person is going to experience public shame, it's going to become collectivistic because it's gone, we're all wearing our fuckin masks. And we don't like doing it either. Who the fuck are you to think that you don't have to? I know it's unpleasant, but who the fuck are you? And that had localized to my face. And I found that fascinating because it taught me a lot about concepts of modesty. And I mean, in Victorian times, a lot of this stuff is it's it's mostly gendered and it was mostly historically applied to women.

Like. In 1890, a woman would experience the sensation of nudity on her ankles if they were exposed, you know. I'm in countries in countries that are Islamic or face coverings are part of the religion and tradition. Do people there, would they expect I'd imagine they would experience the feeling and sensation of nudity if they weren't wearing a hijab or a burqa, you know, or even like in Ireland, that at the fucking beach. If I'm at the beach in Ireland as a man and I take my top off.

I won't experience the sensation of nobody on my torso at the beach, but it's acceptable. Amide experiences in a car park if I'm in a car park. If it's. If it's a hot car park in June or July and I take my top off and I'm bare chested, I will experience the same sensation of nudity. It's hot. Most people will look at me and say, I understand it's hot. You've got your top off. But it's a statement.

It's a large statement to make in an urban environment, to be bare chested in a car park, in an open air outdoor car park in July, same car park in October. Not a hope. I will experience the sensation of nudity if I'm bare chested in an October car park. That's a strong statement. That's I'm looking for trouble. I'm looking for attention. And it'll be reflected back to me by the. By the gaze is that people gave me, you know, because it's a strong statement and I will experience the public shame as a tingle on my skin underground car park, not a hope.

There is never an excuse to be bare chested in an underground car park. So at any time of the year, I will experience the physical sensation of nudity in an underground car park. If I'm bare chested, what the fuck am I talking about? I'm in danger of going on a tangent now. About modesty, impropriety and car parks. But yet mask's want to take my mask home? Then I wash it, I'll wash it in soapy water, I rent it thoroughly and I dry it on the radiator.

And what I find fascinating about that then is. You've got this virus that's stopping the whole world and. The one thing that you can actually rely upon is just plain old soap, because the virus has a fatty outer layer and you put soap on us are detergent, and it will kill it instantly if it's on a surface. Something as simple as soap and. I'm fascinated by the humidity that because soap. Is one of those things that it dates back years and years in human society.

It's one of these things we we discovered by accident. It's SORP like soap is basically if you get a fat are an aisle and you mix it with a Kostic or alkaline substance, it creates soap. Like humans weren't always settled, humans didn't always live in villages and towns in in a settled community. Long before that, humans were just continually on the move in a hunter gatherer lifestyle where they chased animals are wild plans to forage, which meant continually moving only when humans figured out farming that they, like, decide, OK, let's stay here and grow some wheat and then we don't have to move or we can raise some cows.

But for years and years before that, people just moved around the geth. And SoPE, which. It's one of these technological and it's weird referring to soapies technology, but it is soapies technology, SORP 30, 40000 years ago SORP was like an iPhone. It was like an airplane, you know, and how humans discovered soap, pure fucking accident. So Hunter-Gatherer humans 40000 years ago, maybe longer. What humans used to do is if a human was, if a human tribe was lucky, they would catch an animal to eat and that might be the only meat that they eat in like four or five fuckin months.

So let's just say a group of Hunter-Gatherer humans, both 30, 40 people capture a deer. What they want to eat the beer and they want to cook it. OK. So. They'd find a Occoquan spot that was very, very close to a stream or to a river because they need to drink, they need water to drink and to wash themselves or whatever. So what would happen is that the humans would set up a fire and the fire would be quite close to the river.

And then on the fire, they cook the deer are the wild boar or whatever animal it is. And then. The Deerwood cook, but all the fans would drip. From the body of the deer. Into the ashes of the fire, into the ashes of the world. So the next morning, might you be left with where all these wood ashes and bits of burnt wood that were soaked in fat? Now, the site of the fire is close to the river when you get wood ashes and you saw come in water, it produces a substance called lye.

And lye is I think it's sodium. What is it, sodium hydroxide?

I think it's called it's. It's a real alkaline substance, so animal fat would ashes and water basically create made it makes like soap a type of soap. And but the humans would find is when they either wash themselves in the path of the river that was near the fire, near the wood ashes are washed. Their clothes, their bodies and clothes got cleaner than if it was just water. And that's how humans discovered soap and then discovered how to make soap from that.

But if you think that in the context of a Hunter-Gatherer society, I right like these people. Life expectancy was. Party, you know, people died from bacteria, viruses, pathogens, and so could kill these things, so now they had this technology before they even discovered farming to wash themselves and wash them. So free of bacteria and fucking parasites and the whole shebang in a way that water couldn't and it would have even sterilized. The water that they were washing themselves with, if they were washed them, but river water that contained bacteria are parasites, the wood ash soap would have sterilized to an extent, that water.

What did that do for human health, part of that do for the evolution of humans? What did that do for the survival of the species that were still around today? The technological advancement of soap? And the the wonder of soap as. Could you call it an invention? I don't know. Could you call? You can call it a discovery, the wondrous soap as a discovery is that. The molecules of surprise, it's it's like it's shaped like like a little pin.

And one one end of the molecule. Ponds with water and then the other end of the molecule, ponds with oils and fats, so it means it's really, really salib and in water and it rips apart fats and oils. And this thing, this soap would have been a huge discovery and improvement to human health many, many years ago and here we are in 2020 with this virus. And right now, even though we're waiting for a vaccine, the greatest toll we have against it and services is Hunter-Gatherer technology, Stone Age technology, a cotton Fokin mask and soap.

But let's take it back again with, say, 30, 40000 years ago. To this group of humans who one day discover. SoPE. And they figure out, I think I know what happened here. It's the wood ashes, it's the water. And when I wash myself here, I'm suddenly clean and then everyone joins in and then they start doing it more and more and they start collecting the wood ashes, this particular group of humans. There's probably 150 of them.

The reason I say 150 is there's a there's a thing known as Dunbar's number. It was suggested by an anthropologist called Robin Dunbar. And Dunbar's number is is. It's. The cognitive limits. To how many humans, one human can, hundred and fifty, you can know and care about 150 people. That's the limit. The human brain, that's how many friends you can actually have to care, about 150.

Chimpanzees can have 30, humans can do 150, anything beyond 150 becomes difficult. Interestingly, it's also the average number of friends the people have on Facebook and Instagram and Twitter. So that's also suggested as probably the amount of people, the maximum amount of people that would have been in a Hunter-Gatherer tribe. Now, like I said, when humans discovered farming, then they started to live in villages and towns with numbers larger than that. But with the hunter gatherer tribe, let's say 150.

So this one hundred and fifty tribe of humans who are traveling around the geth, who've now discovered soap and are actively engaging in making soap and have the technology these days, group has the technology of soap. Imagine what that would do to this group of 150 people over the course of a year. They're not getting sick as much as other humans, they're not susceptible to parasites, to certain bacteria. They might be washing their teeth with the soap. They've got healthier teeth because less and less people are getting sick.

There's more people in the group because less people are getting sick. The group as a whole is healthier. They're catching more animals. They're foraging better. They're eating better. Now, the group of humans, this tribe that has discovered soap technology. After a year or two. Are simply. Visibly better look in humans. If this group of 150 with solar technology meet a group of humans that doesn't have SORP technology, the group that doesn't have SORP technology will view the solar humans as just being incredible, like who the fuck are these LEDs?

Why are they so clean? Why are they so strong? Why is their hair healthy? Why do they have so many resources? Why are they so big? Why is there so many of them? The survival of this group has now been enhanced by the technology assault and the group on the outside are going to start getting freaked out. Also, the group of humans who have sought technology are going to be incredibly aware of the benefits that it's bringing them, the fact that it's making them stronger.

They're going to be in competition with the weaker groups who don't have soap. They're going to be aware that this old man, whatever the fuck it's doing to us, we're catching more food or covering more territory. They're going to be in competition. So they would be guarding they would be closely guarding the secret and technology of their soap and would most likely give it some type of religious significance because they don't understand science. And back then to. Like, people didn't have written language so often if if when it already society discovered what we would now call chemistry, making soap is chemistry, but it has a process, it has a scientific process to do it.

But in the absence of fucking written word, what would often happen is soap making probably became a song or a religious ritual. A religious ritual that meant you followed these exact steps so that it could be repeated because they didn't know what was science. But the other group, the group that don't have soap technology and are watching and wondering what the fuck is going on with these more powerful humans. They're going to start asking questions and naturally. They're going to become paranoid so that the humans that don't have soap technology.

When they meet the soul of humans, they're going to become very paranoid. They're going to think they have access to magic and are going to start assuming that they're plotting against them. The humans who haven't discovered soap and don't understand what it is, we start hiding and watching and observing the humans that have soap technology and they start seeing them all lighting bonfires. And then after the bonfire, they'll notice that they all go and bathe in the water afterwards, and because the soap humans have ascribed a religious importance to the making of soap, you know, they've made it a ritual in order to remember how to do it.

They might be doing strange things. They might be doing song and dance. They might be appear to be saying prayers to the fucking moon. They might be wearing weird costumes. To make this soap and then the humans with no soap who are watching. And they view it as a ritual and they'll be at a distance and then they'll wonder, what the fuck are they burning in that fire? And what if. The group of humans that haven't discovered soap because they don't have soap technology, they're more likely to be sick.

They're not as healthy. There might be a much higher rate of things like infant mortality within their tribe. What if they then start to assume that the soap humans are stealing their children and burning them? And the reason that they are so healthy and with lovely teeth and powerful and well-fed is because the soap humans are stealing the children of the non soap humans and sacrificing them. Because they've seen this happen, they've seen them burning things and washing in the water, and then they start to develop this theory.

That this group of soul humans are fucking dangerous. They're dangerous and they want to take over and they want to take control and they have access to some type of hidden power and they don't know what it is, some type of evil, hidden power that's somehow related to the disappearance of children. And and they'll also believe that the humans that have access to the soap are somehow immortal beings. They won't be able to understand the cleanliness and the youthfulness and the resources and the strength and the attractiveness of these humans that have soap that assumed them to be immortal beings.

And they're doing something to achieve this immortality and. I'm just making that up. I'm just saying that that's a plausible that that's a plausible possibility. If forty thousand years ago, one group of humans discovered SoPE. And within a year, the observable difference in their health and the health of their society because of soap, that's going to be noticeable to another group of early humans who don't have soap. And what I'm trying to get at their. I'm trying to tease at the possible.

Evolutionary psychology, origins of conspiracy theories. The non the humans who haven't discovered soap, who are viewing these other group of humans with soap. They can't understand what the soap is because they don't know what the technologies that are going to start developing suspicious conspiracy theories. Out of sheer fear. For their own survival, they're scared of being eradicated by what they view as more powerful people. And I'm not pulling this out of my hours, I'm basing it on a paper that was published in 2018.

The paper is called Conspiracy Theories, Evolved Functions and Psychological Mechanisms, which proposes a theory about conspiracy theories. It says that we propose that people possess a functionally integrated mental system to detect conspiracies that in all likelihood has been shaped in an ancestral human environment in which hostile correlations, that is, conspiracies that truly existed were a frequent cause of misery, death and reproductive loss. So this paper suggests that in early human society meeting, one group of humans meeting another group of humans and having to cooperate and meet.

Resulted in things like betrayal, it resulted in actual misery, death and reproductive loss and these real things, like the way that we're instinctively scared of spiders and what instinctively scared of snakes, because in the wild, our ancestors needed to be scared of these things because they really were a danger that in our earliest human societies. Thousands and thousands of years ago, when one group of humans, hunter gatherers meets another, that within the bonding that happens. One group tries to fuck the other one over and in our minds is this deep, deep distrust and paranoia.

Of another group, if we perceive them to be more powerful or if we don't understand their technology and may suggest that they're, you know, taking it back 40000 years ago, you have one group with soap, really clean, really healthy.

Vibrant looking, desirable people. Living longer, healthy children, and then you have another group who don't have this and they don't understand what's happening and they. You know, they think they're doing rituals and they're state of nature, that's why our children are dying. They're stealing the children, the burning of Manpower's and this is where they get this this youth and this vibrancy from. Like right now in 2020, one of the most popular and dangerous conspiracy theories online is there's one called Kuhnen and Kuhnen is like this.

It's mainly spread on Facebook. It's this huge, huge conspiracy theory that is it's mainstream. It's really, really mainstream. It's not fringe. You know, your aunt or your uncle might be believing this shit. It's what the anti mask stuff comes from. It it's kind of picked from all different conspiracy theories and united under one very digestible umbrella, but one one branch of Kuhnen. Straight up there, they believe that. People in Hollywood, actors and actresses who are incredibly good looking, healthy looking people who are maybe in their 50s and 60s, but they look like they're in their 40s, there's a legit conspiracy theory right now that these people are making face cream from the ground up foreskins of children and they're getting a child's foreskin face cream and the rubbing it into their faces.

And this has given them eternal youth. Now, what if I told you that it was actually true? This is where it gets messy? Yes, there is very expensive face creams out there that use a stem cell technology. And part of the ingredients are literally from the four skins of babies. That that's that's the thing. And Oprah was set on it. And if you've listened to a previous podcast that I did, I also uncovered this is where it gets murky, like some shit is conspiracy.

Some shit isn't. Oprah does promote a line of face creams that you can directly, and this isn't a conspiracy word, this is real. The CIA have a company of done podcast on called In-Q-Tel, which is where a lot of the black budget goes into an In-Q-Tel fund. They're like a private fund that funds companies. So there are screen skin creams in existence for real. That's used this foreskins of children. For stem cell stuff, I'm assuming they're sourced ethically, but then as well, there are face to face cream products out there funded by In-Q-Tel, the CIA, which are essentially a way to harvest the genetic DNA of people.

It's a way to you buy this face cream. And it's called Clear Resta, you can look it up clear. It's funded by In-Q-Tel, In-Q-Tel are basically the CIA and clearly there is a face cream that's touted by Oprah, who's a billionaire. And what's clear is that will do is that it's a face cream that is kind of made specifically for your skin. But in order for it to be that accurate, it needs your genetic data and then your genetic data is then given to the CIA is a database.

That shit's real. This is why conspiracy theories get murky, because some shit you go, oh, fuck, that's actually pretty freaking concerning and it's actually happening. But then you get the other side. So because of the the waters are murky. Q and unbelieve OK. That's. The wealthiest billionaires in the world. Essentially are going to have eternal youth because they're harvesting a chemical called Adrienn acronym that this shit isn't real. Adrianna Chrome is a real thing, but what I'm about to tell you about this isn't real.

They believe that the wealthiest people in the world are involved in the trafficking of children, that they're torturing sexually torturing young children and traumatizing them and then extracting this adrenaline from from them in these satanic rituals to make themselves immortal. Not that's a conspiracy theory, but. Is that that's not the plausible historical situation that I laid out 40000 years ago with one human human group discovering soap and the others not, and one group being really healthy and having a lot of resources, and then the other group assuming that they're stealing children and all this.

It's not that far off what's happening right now, except, you know, what's going on right now. Why are there massive amounts of people on Facebook who genuinely believe that the wealthiest people in the world? Are injecting themselves with a chemical that can only be gotten from satanic child sacrifices. I mean, for me, it's 40000 years ago, you have one hundred and fifty people on one side, what more resources in this new technology? And then you have another group who doesn't have it.

Now we're living in 2020. What I'm seeing there is. It's our Stone Age brain reacting to the rise of the one percent. Billionaires, there's more billionaires now than there's ever been, the divide between the super ultra rich and the poor is fucking massive and yes, Hollywood celebrities. Look very fucking young and they look fantastic, but it's because they have they have greater access to resources, they have greater access to nutrition, plastic surgery, the latest in and skin care technology and also editing.

But we have this this batched conspiracy theory, which is rooted in anti-Semitism. It's absolutely you look at the history of this child, sacrifice shit, go back thousands of years, you'll see it, it's all of us goes back to the Jewish people, the foreskin stuff is this paranoia about add, you know, within Judaism, when the child is circumcised, that part, it's all toxically manipulated by right wing forces who are anti Semitic. But ultimately, what I'm trying to get at the heartache, I'm trying to get the evolutionary origins.

It's depressing. Went when, like we're seeing a lot of it now with the pandemic. When your aunt, uncle, brother, your father, your mother. Presents you with this batshit fucking fear that they have and you're saying, man, what are you doing? Why are you on Facebook? Who told you this are die? Who told you this? For people who are rational and who aren't getting sucked into this, it's very painful and hurtful to see someone you love get drawn into a.

mask, sort of the belief that the coronaviruses is created in a laboratory, that it's all part of this huge Goldbart global plan to enslave us. This belief that wearing masks are about ushering in an era of compliance. It's troubling and worrying and it can leave us feeling numb, and what I want to do is I want to try and get some catharsis around it by understanding. The human origins of why this shit exists and for for me and you to train as well, maintain a degree of criticality because like I just said.

Yes, face creams exist that are made from the foreskins of babies. It's called stem cell technology. You can probably source where the foreskins are coming from, I'm guessing they're discarded foreskins from babies that are getting circumcised and it's ethically traced and source. And yes, the CIA are funding a fucking skincare company that Oprah sells, which is. As far as I can see, a data harvesting, a genetic data harvesting program and that it's real. And we have to maintain our criticality to go that there is is is.

Abuse of human rights and its abuse of data and things like that, but it's not. Sacrificing children in some type of satanic shit. I mean, these people, the Kuhnen, also believes that the world is run by a race of lizards. They believe that the most powerful people in the world are reptiles, lizards from space, interdimensional, interdimensional shapeshifting lizards. The world is run by very powerful fucking alien reptiles who need the blood sacrifice of children.

And they don't look like reptiles because they can operate within frequencies and shape, shift into the farm of humans. And people fucking believe this. Your uncle is talking about it on Facebook now and he won't bow down to the interdimensional shapeshifting lizards. And this is why he won't wear a face mask. And Tasco, this is really OK. And you want to take that back. I had Eddie Lanahan, the folklorist on this podcast, about six or seven podcasts back.

He was telling me about Irish superstition and traditions. Listen to how the Irish folklore going back a thousand years describes the fairies. The fairies in Irish mythology were a strange race that you can't understand, and what do fairies look like? Fairies take the shape of humans are animals and they steal babies. This shit's just getting fuckin repeated, we had it in Irish folklore, changelings, it's all there, it's just now there. Interdimensional shapeshifting, lizards, it's archetypal, it's an archetype, it's the it's human psychology going right back to the soap 40000 years ago.

And where it gets difficult for me to do then is. You know, if I'm arguing with someone and they're bringing up conspiracy theories and they're saying the elite of the world are involved in sex cults and their sacrifice and children, how do I then turn around and say, that's ridiculous when I know that that Jeffrey Epstein shit is real? OK, Jeffrey fucking Epstein had a private island of power. People went and children were abused. And that's. We know that happened.

All right, the whole world has their eyes on that. So then how do you turn around to the person and say. You've got your what you think is complete bullshit, because you have this other nugget of something that's actually deeply fucking wrong and troubling and worrying and what I have to do with it for my criticality, I take it back to the soap. I imagine myself on the other side of the river, not having solar technology, observing the other humans with the soap, doing some weird shit.

And I don't think that on Jeffrey Epstein's island. There was ritualistic sacrifice where people were shapeshifting into lizards. And do and Satan was appearing, I don't believe that. That's what that's that's the viewpoint when you can't understand what soap is, but I want to understand what the soap is and the soap is power and money. So what on Epstein's island, what you have is incredible amounts of power, money, arrogance. That's what you have. And from that, you get abuse.

And that's the soap that they have, but I don't want to get caught up in the smoke and mirrors. I don't think that they're lizards. Even even Fox making this argument, you know, even making this argument. Do you know what I mean? It's it's. You have to be concerned, like right now in Ireland right now, in Ireland in 2014. The skeletons of eight hundred babies were found thrown into a septic tank in Golway. And this was done by the Catholic Church, by the nuns in the mother and baby homes.

OK. And the Catholic Church had this huge institutional abuse in Ireland and they threw 800 little babies into a septic tank. And Cunanan will look at that because they draw the Catholic Church into this and say, oh, Satan worship, Satan worship and we can't go there, we have to go, no, this horrible thing happened and this is what happened. This is what happens when there's a huge, huge imbalance of power. When there was a huge imbalance of power.

You end up with 800 babies in a septic tank, and those nuns didn't have to be lizards. Shifting between dimensions. In order for that to happen, what you simply have is a lot of power that and not no accountability and abuse of power. You don't need the supernatural there. You have to the very honest and real failure of humanity. You have corruption, the failure of humanity when presented with absolute power and no accountability. Bad shit happens every time.

And on that subject as well, an investigation into those. Those 800 babies that were found, an investigation was was launched into that which was called the Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation. Right now, the Irish government are basically trying to lock away the findings of that investigation for 30 years. OK, it's a bit murky, so that's not right, we deserve to know what happened and we need we deserve to know the systems of power and abuses that happened for 800 babies to end up in a septic tank in Galway.

Those babies are human beings who have living relatives who need to find out what happened to their relatives after buried in unmarked graves and for it to be locked away. The information for 30 years, that's fucked up. Someone's trying to be really sneaky and someone is trying to protect. At institutions or people who were involved in the abuse of power, so. Look up at j f m research dot com, and the article you're looking for is Argent Mother and Baby Homes Commission Archive Justice for Magdalenian Research.

Go on to that and there's a link to email your TDS and senators to say to them, no, you're not locking away this information for 30 years to protect people. If you go to rubberband, it's Facebook, my Facebook page, it's the top post. And here I am trying to rally against conspiracy theories. While also. Telling yet legitimacies that is is in the realm of conspiracy theory, and all I have to say to you is like.

I don't believe anyone in the government is a giant shapeshifting lizard. I think it's it's abuse of power. I'm imagining myself as the hunter gatherer watching the soap ritual, and I have to say to myself, the devil isn't involved here. It's something simpler than that. And. We can only be the change if we're looking for that simplicity. You can start talking about lizards, you can't start talking about intimate interdimensional shapeshifting lizards. Like I sound like I'm trying to make a really measured argument that I sound like a lunatic doing it.

That's how fucked up this conspiracy theory shit is. And it's part of why it's so dangerous. It it attacks the very nature of rationality and logic and. To take it back to the riverbed 40000 thousand years ago, you're watching the soap ritual. And it comes down to two very simple things. Do you want the truth or do you want the most interesting story? And the observers who are saying they are doing a satanic ritual, their state and our children, they're burning our children and this has given them eternal youth.

That's really, really interesting and really engaging. And it's got narrative and it's got everything you want out of a good story. And it has intrigue. That's that's the conspiracy theory. Ah, do you want to find out what they're actually doing is the fat from the animal is mixing with the wood ashes that mixes with the water and it makes them really clean. And because they're clean, they're not getting sick and then they're healthy. That's boring. That's boring.

There's no wonder there, you know what I mean? But the scientific paper I cited earlier says that. Because of a history of death and pain and misery that our ancestors going back hundreds, thousands of years because coalitions with other humans often resulted in very bad things happening and evil it became. Evolutionarily advantageous for human beings to become very paranoid, very, very paranoid and to search for the supernatural as a way to protect ourselves, to not look for the logical and instead to be mad, paranoid and come up with these crazy, crazy ideas to benefit the survival of the group that doesn't have the soap.

So I've got more to say about this conspiracy theory theory shit.

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Let's back to the conspiracy counts. So the paranoia of conspiracy theories that it's it's also. There is that evolutionary origin, but it's a way to to feel. If you're. The group of humans 40000 years ago without soap and you're jealous and envious and fearful and worried about the group that do have soap and you don't understand their power, you don't understand what's going on. Developing this narrative about them stealing your children or warship and saying all this stuff is.

It gives you a sense of power and control over something you really don't understand over chaos. All right, a new group of incredibly healthy humans show up. And you don't know why they have this. That's that throws your world into chaos, it's threatening and we live in a time of chaos right into the fucking pandemic. And half the world is on fire and there's a lot of scary things happening. All right. It's quite chaotic right now. Lots of shit is chaotic politically, ecologically pandemic.

It's chaotic and finding a nice, clear, interesting narrative. Within the anxiety of all of that is going to redress the balance of power, that the balance of power, the imbalance of power that you feel the kuhnen conspiracy's is the ultimate and contemporary example of this, we're also drifting away from, you know, it were posed postmodernism, though, into metter, modernism. One of the tenets of the modernist stage was these grand narratives of right or wrong.

Society in the 60s, you had the wonderful big right and wrong of. Fuckin Cold War. The Soviets are bad, communism is bad, capitalism is good, America is good, and the West is good and the Soviets are bad. And you have to view everything through the lens of this great moral battle between East and West. And that's terrifying because the word literally came to fucking nuclear war, but at least it's simple. And with postmodernism, this type of shit started the break down.

And now with the Internet, it's really broken down to the point that we can't identify an objective truth in the 80s as well under the Reagan era. That was a great time for these grand, simple narratives of right or wrong under Reagan and Thatcher. Obviously, you had the Cold War was ending, it was on the way out, communism, bad, capitalism, good, they needed to start finding new things to create very simple right or wrong narratives that were given from the center of power all the way down.

They started to choose at the war on drugs. Drugs are awful. Everything bad is happening because of drugs and. Fighting drugs is the good thing. There's a simple narrative crime. Crime became a huge thing in the 80s. The Mafia was a thing. You had these simple narratives, even the fuckin war on terror, the war on terror post 9/11. But here's the difference between the war on crime and the war on drugs and the war on terror.

The war on drugs. Drugs are a thing. They're a commodity. They're a product. You stop them being made and imported now, then you want to get into it. The fucking CIA and the CIA were responsible for half of the drugs. We're going down a rabbit hole. Drugs are objective, OK? Good and bad, there's a bunch of drugs, don't take them, they're bad, they're fuck your shit up. Let's let's fund stopping the production and import of drugs and smugglers and drug dealers.

Very simple, right and wrong message coming from the top down. With that simplicity, you have a comfort. Drugs, gangs were still scary to people, the thought of drugs were still scary, but you have a comfort in the simplicity of the narrative, the grand narrative of it. With crime, the same thing, crime is done by criminals, you lock them up in jail, right? You see that with New York in the 80s, the mafia, Rudy Giuliani trying to clean the fucking place up, three strike laws, all that shit, the war on terror.

Now you've got a fucking terrorism idea. Terror is an idea you can blame al Qaeda like the war on terror is when it started getting murky because terror is a war on an idea. And that's harder to understand. But let's take it back to the 80s and very simple one. New York. New York is full of muggings and crime and the mafia and crime gangs and drugs and drugs. Simple, right and wrong. There's a comfort in that.

Then Rudy Giuliani was a good friend, the tromps, they, quote unquote, cleaned up New York, they infiltrated the Mafia, the mafia stopped being a thing. At about the 90s, they really took him apart, the mafia in America, in New York, the five families stop being a thing in the 90s and people stopped fuckin kind of thinking about them or worrying about him. Like in the 1980s, there was a huge mafia war in New York and a lot of people died and the people of New York were frightened and scared.

And then. Last year, 2019, after years and years and years of the Mafia in New York being really, really quiet. The boss, like the Mafia in New York, is run by the five families, the five mafia families of New York who are kind of together in a business arrangement, and this arrangement prevents wars and wars rarely happen. The last one was the 80s, as I mentioned. So then in 2019, the boss of the Gambino crime family, which is John Gotti, John Gotti was a huge mobster in New York in the 80s.

His crime family, one of the five families of New York, the boss of the Gambino crime family, is shot dead in 2019 in Staten Island. And the police in New York start freaking out. We haven't seen a fuckin high profile mafia murder in New York since the 80s. And now the head, the one of the three he was one of the bosses of the Gambino crime family is shot dead in Staten Island or FOK, because the last time that happened, it started a huge war in the 80s.

So they're going, oh, fuck, the mafia are back. The head of a family has been shot. Shit's going to kick off. And then they arrest the suspect. And the suspect has nothing to do with the Mafia whatsoever. He's a 24 year old called Anthony Carmelo. And this unknown 24 year old who's not connected with the Mafia has no crime connections, shot dead the leader of the Gambino crime family, and then they bring him in for fucking questioning.

Now, I don't think that dad's been sentenced. Yes, but I believe I don't think he's been sentenced yet. But he's the main suspect. And they say to him, why did you shoot the head of the Gambino crime family? Now they're expecting he's in the mob or the dead. Your man turns around and he says. Well, the CIA have infiltrated the mafia and I'm being spied upon by satellites and then they said, go on. Well, the Mafia have actually been infiltrated by the deep state or a liberal cabal that are trying to work against President Trump and the police in New York are scratching their fucking heads like, who is this contos, these young fellows after shooting the Gambino crime boss?

What's he talking about? The CIA and the deep state and the Mafia and Trump. What the fuck is this guy talking about? And then the suspect, Anthony Carmello, has his first court hearing and when he's in court. He holds up his hand and on his hand, he's drawn a massive queue. And this lad has basically been radicalized by the Q and on conspiracy theory, these fucking. Oprah put the face creams and the fucking foreskins of children and the interdimensional shapeshifting lizards.

Now you've got a young man, 25, clearly has has mental illness issues from some of the things I'm hearing him saying, who believes Kuhnen, who's been on Facebook nonstop and now he's after killing the fucking head of the Gambino mafia family because he thinks they've been infiltrated by the CIA and the deep state. As far as I know, it's an ongoing trial. So I don't want to go anymore into into the details of it. You can read about it yourself, but what interests me about it and why I'm relating it back to grand narratives.

Now, this is me going extreme hot take, I don't know much about Italian Americans, I don't know much about Italian American culture. What I can tell you about Staten Island, Staten Island is like one of the last parts of the Bronx and Staten Island, one of the last kind of real working class. I'm Italian American communities. And the only thing I can related to to bring a bit of myself into it is. I'm guessing. The mafia in those communities probably would represent something similar to what maybe the IRA and Republicanism represents in terms of male masculinity in Ireland.

OK, I'm assuming that in these somewhere like Staten Island or parts of the Bronx where the Mafia historically were looked up to in the community by young men as these powerful figures, that narrative. Starts to disappear and then within that chaos, you lose a sense of meaning. Similarly, what we see, there's Kuhnen adherents in Ireland. Who believe that the troubles in Ireland, as it's called, the war in the north of Ireland, believe that the IRA were like a deep state plus.

Quote, unquote, the Jews, any time anyone says that shit, what they're referring, it's a far right shit. It refers to the Jewish people, but it's been posited recently in Ireland that the Troubles was like this staged act by globalist powers and had nothing to do with Republicanism. It's this staged act. And you have this lad now over in Staten Island who shot the head of the Gambino family last year because he believes that the mafia is infiltrated by the deep state and these powerful forces, which all goes to interdimensional shapeshifting lizards, which most people believe is just a code word for Jewish people.

These are all and none of this shit is new. This all anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. I'm looking for the bar of soap. I'm looking for the boring. Fat at the animal, mixing with the water, ashes in the water to create soap. That's what I'm looking for here. And what I see. Is it's it's it's grand narratives disappearing, the simple moral tale disappearing. This simplicity, like I said, Reaganite America, mafia, bad mafia crime is bad, they must be taken down.

Good citizens are afraid of the mafia, very simple, moralistic tale, a binary tale of right and wrong, which also within a community like that, it can mean those men are the strong men you can aspire to be that are you cannot aspire to be in the Mafia and you can aspire to be something else. If you're an Italian American, you can become. Rudy Giuliani was the mayor of New York at the time, simple right and wrong narratives that are disappearing as we enter the met a modern age with the Internet.

And that gives you a sense of chaos. And from that chaos and lack of understanding. The heartache around me, who is looking for the soap? What was that young man looking for certainty? Striving for the certainty of the old narrative of. Right and wrong, mafia. Mafia, bad police code. And this new world of all the in betweens are seeing the mafia lose power somehow. That's what set him off on this irrational conspiracy vibe, or he thinks the Mafia are being controlled by lizards.

Similarly, if I see this see that stuff being said in Ireland. About, you know, the IRA are infiltrated by the deep state, the IRA was a puppet organization set up by Fokin, a Jewish cabal are international interdimensional lizards. It's the same thing. You're losing the grand narrative. You're losing maning. So to kind of get to the. The end of my hot take. I want to talk about Kuhnen, which is the umbrella conspiracy theory that's taken over the world right now.

I don't want to get into too much detail of it because it's fucking boring. If if you have half a and I won't I won't say a brain, that's not fair. If you have the ability to to think critically, I'm university educated, all right, I've had the benefit of going to university to fucking learn and what research is understanding, critical thinking, knowing what a trustworthy source is and what an untrustworthy, trustworthy source is. When I look at this shit, it's it's hilarious.

I couldn't believe any of it. It's so fucking ridiculous. There's so many holes.

But not everybody has that benefit as not everybody has the privileges that I had. So it's spreading through Facebook. And what makes this conspiracy theory unique is how it exploits the Facebook algorithm to reach so many disparate groups. So. It reaches. You know, the person who's into crystal healing and yoga? And into angel readings and all this kind of harmless stuff, usually that tends to be a kind of a you tend to associate that with women. You know, they're more kind of female pursuits, that type of interest, crystal healing, yoga and angel readings, all this stuff.

I'm not saying it's only women. I'm just saying it tends to have horoscopes. So this side of Facebook who we're into, these ultimately harmless things all of a sudden started getting targeted with anti VAX. Don't vaccinate your child vaccination causes autism, all this type of stuff, and they're being targeted by this, and then they get drawn into the kuhnen side of things. Then you have the other stuff, which is kind of harmless UFOs, Bigfoot, traditional conspiracy theory stuff.

And they are being targeted by Cuban unstuff as well, and what it's done, it's united people who are who are skeptic skeptics. About harmless stuff. And drawn them via the algorithm into the same groups, into the same echo chambers. Whereas now the person who's harmlessly interested in horoscopes or yoga is now thinking about ActiveX. Now, coronaviruses is planned, it's a pandemic from China. People who are into UFOs all of a sudden now are being sold very anti-Semitic things, and it just goes with this pyramid of.

Essentially, Kuhnen is the global elites are paedophiles who worship Satan and lizards are involved. And this is the core of this, because you're kind of wondering who's doing it and why, who benefits? Multiple people are driving this all right, people. Let's let's just call it Russia, but it's not just Russia anymore, it's it's. Anyone and any nation who was interested in Western democracies, the EU, fucking America, whoever anyone foreign interest who wants Western democracies to be weakened, is very interested in promoting Kuhnen, because what it does is it creates chaos, it creates chaos and uncertainty, and then that destabilizes and weakens democracy and society.

Right. So those people have an interest in Q1 on ultimately who benefits were on Donald fucking Trump. All right, simple as that. Here's the core belief of Kuhnen and what it is. Q And on believe that Q. Is Donald Trump. Donald Trump is called calcu, and they believe that Clintons and the Democrats are part of this huge international sex trafficking, child sacrificing cabal that wants to enslave the art and enslave the world, interdimensional lizards, anti-Semitism.

They believe that the refugee crisis is made up by a cabal of Jewish people and lizards. They believe that. Global warming and the climate crisis is manufactured to get us scared. They believe that coronavirus is a manufactured virus, that it's all designed to control and coerce us into being slaves for these giant lizards. Which is just a little code word for Jewish people. Even talking about it, I sound fucking mad and I'm trying to argue against this. It's crazy.

All right. But they believe that Donald Trump is a fellow calcu and they believe that what Trump is doing is that Trump is president of the United States. And what Trump is doing is that while he is president, he's finding all the secrets about child sex trafficking, about all the shit that they believe, all these conspiracy theories, they believe that Donald Trump is anonymously leaking them to the fucking Internet. And that's what it is, so their ultimate goal of Kuhnen is to keep Donald Trump in power, and that's explicit.

Donald Trump must be kept in power because he is cute and he will leak all the information to us. And you look at any Kuhnen stuff, it's all Trump, Trump, Trump, and they believe it. You must get Trump in fucking power and he must stay in power. And which to me suggests that there's the same people who were working for Trump who did all that Cambridge Analytica shit. They're probably as well heavily invested in pushing this Kuhnen thing because you look at who benefits Donald Trump benefits from killing on.

Massively. And the model that's being used, it's clever, it's very fucking clever, but it's dangerous. I haven't seen it done before. What they've done is they've borrowed from Scientology. And they've borrowed from boxset TV shows. These are the two things which exist in the zeitgeist of culture that have been appropriated into the framework of what Kuhnen is. OK. How to explain this? Scientology, first of all, if you look at Scientology operated by having different levels of secrets about Scientology that get revealed to you as you climb the ranks of Scientology, that's what kept people in Scientology, climbed the ranks, get to the top and you earn and learn more secrets.

Right to you on does that. McKiernan also does is it it's episodic content, like an episode of Game of Thrones. It's it's cliffhangers, so all the Kuhnen stuff is basically Trump is leaking us all these things, all these secrets, and they're waiting for the next secret. It's a bit like freemium gaming as well. I'm looking at things within culture that echo the structure of this and to see why it's working and why it's operating as a type of addiction.

Keep Donald Trump must be re-elected. Why? Because if he's not, we won't find out what happens next season.

That's what a poll that says. It's entertainment thereafter, given us Eppstein thereafter, given us days that are given us the uniforms. Next step is the lizards, we need the lizards, we need to see a lizard, and if you don't get Donald Trump in power because he is cute, then the deep state will win and then we no longer have a queue in power to lick the lizards. And that's the framework of how it works, it's it's like freemium, gaming, it never ends.

It's the box set, it's what happens next season. It's the structure of fucking Scientology layered information being revealed here as you go to the top.

And this is why, too, you know, in the anti mask, protesters in Ireland like. Which is infiltrated massively by the far right. I mean, that's not like what Kuhnen is doing to us. It's it's taken, like I said, people who are interested in harmless shit like UFOs are crystal healing are. Fuckin Ainger ratings are Bigfoot, and it's putting these people into a culture where. Essentially, you're talking about some pretty fucking hardcore racist and to some anti-Semitic stuff.

You know, I'm all under the guise of Save the Children, Save the Children. The simple, simple moral message of Save the Children. There are paedophiles, Save the Children. And if you don't disagree, if you don't agree with this, you must be a paedophile. And that's why when you see a.. Masked protesters in Ireland. They're screaming pedo scum off our street, and you're wondering, I thought you didn't want to wear masks, what are you talking about?

Paedophiles? I thought this was a protest because there's mandatory masks and your masks are uncomfortable and you don't want to wear and and you think the coronavirus isn't fake. Why are you talking about paedophiles? And that's why they're talking about paedophiles, it's an umbrella. It's this. Mad new religion. That is a margin from the uncertainty and chaos of our present reality. And what I do is I embrace the chaos, I embrace the chaos and suffering. Suffering is an inevitable part of human existence, and it would pass and I embrace it and I stare it straight down and I notice it and I look at it and I don't react to it and I don't.

Ignore my suffering to the point that I'm entertaining, irrational, paranoid thoughts. All right. I'll be back next week. I don't know what the fuck I'm going to be talking about next week. I enjoyed that podcast. I hope it wasn't too fucking heavy. I hope it wasn't too heavy. Am I right at 5:00 in the morning here, 5:00 in the fucking. Look at me given out about fucking conspiracy theorists.

And I'm here ranting into a microphone at 5:00 in the fucking morning in a in a dystopian neon dungeon. With a bag in my head, so. Paint, you saw it maybe let's.