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On the bright side, astrologer Chani Nicholas reads our show's birth chart. Whether you're a true believer like Danielle or a bit of a skeptic like your girl, I promise you'll learn something.

Plus, Chani tells us what's written in the stars for the show, for us, and, of course, for you.

The bright side is always that we have each other, right? The bright side is that the myth of individualism will kill you, literally. And that if we remember that we are a collective, remember that we are not alone, which is what happens when you are honest with your story. Then we remember that we get through this only together.

It's Wednesday, March 27. I'm Simone Boyce.

I'm Danielle Robet, and this is the bright side from hello, sunshine. Okay, Simone. I recently came across this photo of model Emily Ratakowski, and she posted on instagram a photo of her divorce ring. Before we get into her divorce ring and divorce rings in general, do you remember her engagement ring?

I don't. Can you refresh my memory?

Okay, I'm gonna say this wrong, but if anybody speaks French, let me know what it really sounds like. She popularized the trois et moi engagement ring, which basically is two stones together on one band. First of all, this ring left a mark on the industry. I'm not even a ring person, and I remember this ring. But now that she's divorced, she separated the stones. So I think there's symbolism for her in that. It's sort of like the engagement ring said, I do. And then this one says, I don't.

I love this trend because I think it's so empowering for women who are moving through divorce. It's a way to take that experience that can be heartbreaking and incredibly painful and own it and also get two rings out of it. Hey.

She was like, I am not going to let losing a man. She said this to vogue. She said, I'm not going to let losing a man get rid of my gems. And I agree with you. I think divorce is so brutal, especially when there's kids involved and she has a child, that it's like, whatever empowers you, I love it. But I do think there's symbolism in jewelry, and so I don't know if I would personally want to do this, because it would still remind me of my ex.

Mm. Even if you separated them out?

Yeah. Even if it was two separate stones. I think. Not to get so woo woo, but I feel like it would carry the energy of that relationship, of that man and I.

The diamond would literally carry the energy?

No, not literally.

Spirit.

I would say that, but, no, figuratively. And I just. I'm kind of like, if you bought me anything and we're not together anymore, I'm selling it on eBay.

Yeah, it's hard to. I think it's hard to say what I would do in that moment. I also have never owned a ring that large, so I don't know what the price tag would be if I sold it on eBay. But I think you have to tell our bright side besties what you just told me, which is that you might not even wear a ring when you get engaged.

Yeah, I don't think I want a ring. I do hope to be married. I'm 33. I hope to be married at some point in the next six years, maybe that would be nice, but I've never cared about rings. All my friends say to me, like, you don't care until you get engaged and then you won a ring.

I think I would feel so naked if I didn't have my ring. Also, it's a great man repellent. Whenever you go out to a bar and you want to just fend off all the fboys, you know what I'm saying?

There is symbolism in our culture. You're right.

Yeah.

Well, I guess we decided on nothing in this segment except for that. This is a rich person problem.

Maybe I'm for it. I'm pro divorce ring.

I'm convinced that I need to do some research. Another thing I'm convinced about is that you can do your whole face of makeup from a drugstore. Have you ever tried it?

I'm really good at doing a full car beat. Like, I will do the full beat in the car. I'll do a mani pedi in the car. Whoa. Yeah. With the whole wax paraffin bathtub.

Don't stare it with me. I can't even do that in my home.

Have you ever done a full face of drugstore makeup?

Hell, yeah. I actually love the drugstore. So the Today show's been doing this series where they interview celebs about their favorite drugstore buys, and I'm like, I wanna see if any of these celebs products match up with mine. Yeah, tell me if any of them match up with you. Kristen Chenoweth says she loves the nivea lip balm in pink shimmer.

Wait, I'm writing this down?

Yeah, we should put a list out of our own as well on social. Okay. Brooke Shields is a fan of Sally Hansen's wax strips. Erin Andrews uses crest white strips. She says she's a coffee drinker and a wine drinker. So, girl, same. And I'm about to give you some of mine.

Okay, I'm writing it down.

First of all, Brooke shields with the wax strips, don't make fun of me. Have you ever tried the nose wax equipment that's in the drugstore?

It's unbelievable.

I can't say that I have.

My friend Julisa Bermudez is a beauty blogger, and she put me on and I will never be the same. There's like these white little sticks you dip into wax that you put in the microwave for two minutes. You stick them up your nose and you're good for, like, three weeks.

What is the pain level here?

One through ten. I'd say six and a half. It's ordinary. Passed to me. Okay. L'Oreal voluminous mascara.

Yes.

$8.99. Agree rivals. Chanel Dior. Don't tell me you're buying an expensive mascara when this exists.

Smash. Smash.

Okay, name a better lotion than Palmer's cocoa butter for $8. Nope.

No, I'm laughing because I just love how black that answer was. Like, you can come to the cookout, Danielle. You're invited to the cookout. Thank you.

Okay, back to products. Anything? Burt's bees. Do you like Burt's bees?

Yeah. Yeah.

I like a good chapstick. And then the rock barrier am moisturizer. It's kind of like a secret weapon. It's dollar eight, SPF 30, and if you're in a jam, it's really good.

Nice.

Yeah.

You want to hear mine?

Duh.

Okay. Okay. So I swear by Maybelline's brow liner.

Brow pencil, how do you know which color you are?

Soft brown. Okay, well, okay. Soft brown is my color, but I typically go one shade lighter than my actual brow color because if you go the same exact shade, then it just looks too heavy and fake.

That's a good tip.

Yeah. So the maybelline brow pencil, it's a slim brow pencil. And I love it because it has a really thin tip and so it makes it really precise. I think it's the best. Dupe for the honesty. Anastasia Beverly Hills brow pencil.

Ooh, that's the good one.

Yeah. I switched over to this one because the anastasia one, it would always break the packaging.

It's $30 or something.

This one's like under ten. Under $10. Vaseline. Vaseline. I'm a vaseline girly for life.

Where do you put it?

Everywhere. Everywhere.

I'm trying so hard not to laugh into the microphone and piss everybody off that's listening, but oh, my God, wait.

I know Vaseline is controversial nowadays because it's made from petroleum jelly or whatever, but it's the best. It's legendary.

But what do you mean everywhere? Like on your face?

No, I mean, okay, so if I use retinol at night and sometimes I'll get areas of sensitivity or redness, like around under the eyes or lips, and I'll put the vaseline on there because it's great for wounds and healing. And so that's the only place I'll put it. But I'm not like slugging my whole face like Tyra Banks was back in the day. I love putting on vaseline right after I get out of the shower and my skin is still wet. It just really absorbs. It's amazing. It's iconic. Don't come for me because of my vaseline love.

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We're back, y'all. I'm Simone Boyce. If you, like me, don't know your ascendance from your aspects, don't worry. Astrologer Chani Nicholas is one of the world's leading experts and best translators on the subject.

She's the author of the New York Times bestseller, you were born for this astrology, for radical self acceptance. And she's here to give us a cosmic breakdown of what our podcast birth chart means. Welcome to the bright side, Chani, we're so excited to have you.

Chani, thanks for joining us.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

So you have been an astrologer for more than two decades.

Is that true?

It's true. I checked. Okay.

Fact check, fact check.

But, you know, there's no college major you can't, like, enroll in astrology school, necessarily. So I'm so curious how you got into this.

I got into it because my dad's third wife's mom was a Reiki master and all of her friends were astrologers and psychics. And when I was twelve years old, she sent me and the whole family to get a group astrology reading, and I just felt like I knew what this woman was talking about and she was talking a language that was mine, but no one had ever spoken to me in before, and so I was just immediately enraptured.

So interesting, because that familiarity, I think, is what scares people about astrology. They don't feel like they understand the language usually.

I have to be honest, I'm one of those people that's like, I'm not scared of it. I wouldn't say I'm scared of it. I think I'm skeptical of it.

Yeah, great.

I think that the key to happiness is having an internal locus of control. So focusing on the things that you can control. And when I think of astrology, it feels like an ideology that is where you're ruled by something that's outside of your control.

I just want everyone to know that Simona's an Aquarius. So, yes, I love that for you.

Am I acting like an Aquarius right now? Am I being hyperlogical and practical?

Maybe, yeah. I mean, it's great. I love it.

But let me say, here's the caveat. I identify as an Aquarius. When I look at the traits, when I look at the traits of an Aquarius, I'm like, that's me. And also Oprah's an Aquarius. So of course I'm gonna claim it.

But you're not only an Aquarius, you're also Capricorn rising. So you're doubly ruled by Saturn. And Saturn is a planet of discernment and rules and structure and order and boundary and logic. And, like, there's a beginning, middle, and end to something. So, like, there's a way in which your rising sign is very, like, it's very, like, hands on and practical in a very earthy sense. And your sun sign and your mercury, you also have a very, very, very strong Mercury planet of communication also in Aquarius. And so that is like, give me the facts, give me the data, the scientist.

But I feel like you're trying to solve for randomness, and it's like almost an illusion of control.

Well, this gets into a whole, like, oh, yeah, we could free destination self determination conversation, which has been going on.

For thousands of years, astrology and religion.

But can we talk about that for a moment? Like, if you subscribe to astrology, to me, it feels like you're letting go of a lot of agency.

How come?

Because your life path or your movements are dictated by the stars. My question is, do you still feel like you have control over your destiny even when you subscribe to astrology?

I mean, I am a fiercely independent, almost feral human being. I do not like to be controlled by anything or anyone, almost to my own demise in most cases. So I don't feel controlled by the astrology at all. I feel enlightened by it, and I feel like it is a language and it's something that has, I have communication with, okay, so it's like being with somebody who has gone down the road. I'm going down, and they're like, okay, well, there's a pothole up there. I don't have to listen to it. Do I feel controlled by that information? No, but I don't have to fall into it, and I don't have to be balancing 17 cups as I go towards it. I could be like, okay, well, I'm gonna be a little bit more prepared for it.

That makes sense.

And also, I don't know how it's gonna roll out, but I know it's probably gonna be a bumpy little section of my journey. But I'm not controlled by that. I'm just made more aware. It's kind of like a weather report.

Ah, okay.

You know, like, if you're like, wow, that weather person's always, you know, predicting this thing and they're always wrong, then why would I listen to you? Astrology is not a system of confirmation bias for me. It's a system of insight for me, and it works, and that's why I use it. So, like, I sit down with strangers, and I just start talking about their chart before they've said anything to me. I don't know anything about them, and they feel witnessed by me.

They feel seen.

Yeah. But it's not me. It's the technology of the system itself. So I just think the technology of it works. And so I work with it. But if it wasn't something I could depend on, I wouldn't mess with it.

Okay, so before we jump in, can you tell everybody what a birth chart even is?

So a birth chart you can do for anything for any time. You say, let's do this thing. There's a birth chart. Like, if I ask you out for coffee, there's a chart for that.

No way.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Us meeting, like, the moment we met, there's a chart for that.

Stop.

Really?

Yeah, there's a chart. Every moment in time, you just take a snapshot. You take a snapshot of the sky, and then that means something to astrologers.

So all astrology is, I'm a skeptic.

She got very excited.

I'm a half skeptic. Like I said, I believe I'm an aquarius. Everything that she said, I can't deny that. I can't deny that I am that person.

Yeah. So the only thing astrology is, it's not even. I don't even know if it's spiritual. What astrology is is it tells you the quality of time that you're in. It tells you the quality of time that you are an amulet of.

What does that word mean?

An amulet is like. It's almost like a rain barrel. Like it's catching a moment in time and space. Right. If you make an amulet, you're making it because the setting is right, and you want to capture the energy of that moment.

Okay?

And so each one of us are an astrological talisman or amulet. We are a. A moment in time captured in physical form, like a vessel. It's like a mirror image of it. So the sky, in terms of what is an astrological philosophy? The sky is a mirror image of who we are, what we are, what we're going through.

So how does it inform who we are or how we show up?

Well, it can be used as a mirror, right? So it can be used to. You can ask me a question about your life, and I can look. I can look into any area of your life because of the way in which it works. So it can tell me any. It can tell me about different people in your life, like, not even you. It tells me something about your destiny. It tells me something about your fate.

That sounds weighty. I know, Chani, isn't it? That sounds very weighty.

I don't know about this, but you were born in a time, in a country that has a fate to it.

I'm even nervous to ask you this, but what does the bright side's birth chart say about the show's fate?

This is an eclipse, baby, which means this. Anything born on an eclipse, a person, a situation, a business or whatever, is going to bring through a surge of energy. It's going to be startling. It's going to be new. It's going to be kind of like a little bit of a friendly slap in the face. I love this for us.

This is us. Yeah. I just want to be slapped in the face.

We are a friendly slap. Slap in the face. Personified.

You might also have the ability to eclipse other things. Right? So, like, your presence in the world can do that, and. Or sometimes you could feel eclipsed. So there's that feeling of, like, are you being overshadowed? Are you overshadowing? There's that thing, because during an eclipse, this one is a lunar eclipse. So it's the moon is being covered over by the shadow, and then it turns bright red.

All I have to say is, watch out, podcasts.

It's startling.

Watch out.

Yeah. And we're here.

We're a slap in the face. We're eclipsing.

You're in Aries sun, which is bold. It's a brazen moment of leadership. So this chart's identity is about leadership. It's about not asking questions, not even apologizing later. It's just about kind of.

We're gonna ask a lot of questions, though, Chani.

Oh, wait, I meant not asking for permission.

Oh, okay. Okay.

I said that wrong. Not asking for permission, maybe not even saying sorry later. But you have a Libra moon. You're born at the full moon. So the Libra moon is very friendly and very much about justice and equality. And you have an excellent Venus situation. So it's really good for women. It's really good for femmes. It's really good for LGBTQIA folks. And it's making this aspect that's really quite exciting and adventurous and expansive.

What you're saying is a huge part of our value system.

Yeah. Everything aligns.

Good.

It's very cool. You're getting me fired up right now.

Let's go.

I'm like, ready? Let's go.

Okay.

Wait. So when you say an Aries sun, I'm curious as to the three main elements to look out for in a birth chart.

Right.

It's sun, moon, moon, and ascendant. And so you have a capricorn ascendant, which you have everything in Capricorn. And you also have in a capricorn ascendance. This is a heavy capricornian situation.

Every time I've done a reading, they look at me and they're like, you're the most capricorn. Capricorn.

You're also an eclipse baby.

Really?

You were born at an eclipse?

I didn't know that.

Like, exactly. Wow. It's pretty rare to have that happen in a chart.

I love that for you like to.

Have it so close so you also, so you resonate with the show's chart in a really deep way because you have that energy, too. Like, you have the kind of life where wild, weird things will all of a sudden happen to you and a turn of events will occur, and all of a sudden you'll be on this path and people will be like, how does that happen to you?

Wow.

Is that true for you?

Yeah. I mean, I'm gonna tell some stories as we go on with this show, but I get myself into very strange situations.

Yeah. It's like a very unexpected kind of quality and feeling to it, but it's also, like, buzzing because eclipses are things that happen where our energy source, the sun, or our source of light, the moon, gets eclipsed. So it's like if we had a power outage or a power surge. So it's, like, weird and unstable, but it usually creates really interesting people.

I'll take it.

Thank you, Chani.

It's true. She's so interesting podcast, but also you.

Have the same ascendant. As the chart, which libra. No, Capricorn. You both have Capricorn ascendance, and you have everything in Capricorn. So this is a very capricornian vibe here. You also have the same Venus as the show, which is Venus in Pisces. You have, like, one of the most gorgeous moon Venus setups that one can have. I'll talk about it in a second. If you want gorgeous, gorgeous. But there's a long lasting endurance quality to Capricorn, so this is not like a kind of one and done situation. All three of you, the show and the two of you want something long lasting. Like, you're here to put in the work. You'll be diligent, you'll be concise. You'll be sticking to the rules. You'll be doing the thing, chugging along, and you want it to work for a long period of time. And so there is that quality to it. And the show's saturn, which is the planet that rules the ascendant, is in the third house of communication. So that's really good.

What does that mean for us?

Well, it means that the life direction of the show wants to go towards communicating.

That's what we should do.

Right.

As the host of a podcast.

We're talkers.

Okay.

But I do think that you will talk about difficult subjects, and I don't think that that's the nature of the show, though.

No, it is. I mean, I think of difficult subjects as nuance. I think another way to phrase it is nuance, and we want to get into nuance here.

I think it's really important for the show because there's a real, like, there's an interesting thing that's happening with the ruler of the ascendant, which is the planet that steers the life of this show, which is to say it's bolstered by Venus, which is the planet of love and beauty and connection in a really good condition. But it's also sitting with Mars, which, when Mars and Saturn come together, there's something challenging that gets seeded. And so this is like, you'll be helped and you'll be assisted. But I do think to shy away from challenging conversations would be a mistake.

Challenging conversations on the air for our audience or challenging conversations with each other? Like, what is that?

No, this is the show. This is the show. So the show wants to be able to tackle some hefty, weighty subjects.

Okay.

It's not just like, it's got a Libra moon, so it's super friendly and chatty and, like, can be really pretty and sparkly and lovely, but there's a need for some heft here.

I think that comes from both of us. I feel a real attraction to busting through stereotypes and talking to people that are a little bit complicated. And I think you have a lot of depth.

Yeah.

And audacity, too. I think I would. Audacity is a word that I really want to reclaim because I feel like it has been misinterpreted and it's all about just courage and boldness. Yes.

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Welcome back to the bright side. Okay, do you think that based on the birth chart of the show and reading both my and Simone's birth chart, there are any goals that we should be shooting for individually or together.

Well, you always have to feel creatively alive. Your creative energy is everything. If you worry or wonder or question anything in your life, I want you to always go back to creative pursuits, your creative energy, maybe even children in your life. Do you have.

No, but I want them. I just nose my eggs.

Aw.

I mean, it's huge for you.

Yeah.

And doing anything for kids, like, if you were to do any kind of, like, extra work on the side or you wanted to give money or you wanted to give your time, anything for kids and youth would be so meaningful for your chart or even reproductive rights or anything like that. Like, anything about conception, reproduction, children, youth, and art. Like, if you did something about kids and art or theater, all that kind of stuff would be.

My whole goal in life is to reach young girls. Yeah.

If you want to babysit my kids, anytime.

By the way, I've already offered. I've already.

I would give her my child. Cause her chart is so responsible, so playful.

She's very responsible, very trustworthy.

Yeah, anytime.

Okay. So stick to creativity. How about Symone?

Hers is, like, oddly concentrated, right? So everything goes there. Yours is like work for sure. But also, you have such a blessing in the area of communication and writing, and it would be a shame for you to not live that out. That's a hugely potent piece of your chart. And anything to do with the creative process as it pertains to words, to rituals, to daily life, all of that is very important. But I just think you're such an incredibly gifted communicator and that people would love what you say. Like, there's quality to your voice, quality to your words, quality to your writing that is begging to be developed and really wants to lend itself to your career.

I'm sitting taller now. I'm just better for you, though. That's exciting.

That it is.

I think I am understanding that statement and also connecting that to what you mentioned about being in a pivot. There are some things that are happening for me creatively right now where that all aligns and makes sense.

Good, good. And then the ruler of your ascendant is also Saturn. It's a very fuck shit up kind of Saturn. You're here to be like, okay, what.

Is it we ride it on?

Exactly.

I texted her that the other day.

Exactly. You're like, I want to know exactly how the system works so I can mess with it in the most efficient way and seamless way.

That's exactly right.

So you're not gonna come in and, like, be like, oh, just like a rebel without a cause, you're like, I have a cause. And I've studied the blueprints of this thing inside and out. I know exactly where I am, what I'm about to do, and why. And now watch me.

It's so true. But you're listening live to an astrology skeptic. Become a believer.

Yes.

Welcome to the show, folks.

I have one more question about the chart. One of the things we're trying to do is build a really bright, sparkly, joyful community. And this is our first week, so we're bringing everybody in. I really feel like it's not just our show. It's a show for women, by women, and I want everyone to feel like it's their show. Is there something about the show's chart that speaks to the community at large?

Yes. So if I look to the community in the chart, it's definitely the point at which the. The public receives your communal offering. The community is represented in your chart by Mars, that planet that is sitting with Saturn. So there's this connection between the charts, destiny, and the public. And again, it's supported by a lot. There's a lot of friendliness, there's a lot of help. But again, it's like the public that you're talking to, they want to know you're real, I think is what I would say. It's not like a for pretend kind of situation. It's like, again, it's the same thing. As I said before, it wants to get gritty. It wants to get into the details. It wants to know, why is this moment difficult? And I do think that you have this in the show's chart already. But what is the pain point and what is the medicine for that? How can we talk our way through the things that we might be kind of like. That might be like a bit of a knot for us. That's what we've been trying to, like, massaging it out.

That's something that we've talked about, because with a show that has a title like the bright side, it's really easy to just go positivity, optimism, joy, everything. But that's not what life looks like. Life is messy. And so we are trying to be mindful of finding those moments where we can talk about the messiness and be honest about it.

Every time I see Gloria Steinem speak in person, she says, the most feminist thing you could do is share your honest story with other women.

Yeah, she's an Aries, too.

I don't know what that means.

Well, I mean, she's a fighter.

Oh, yeah.

Aries is a fighter. So you have a chart of a fighter.

Yeah.

Like, there's that need to blaze a trail to go headfirst, to risk your own comfort and sometimes safety in order to do the thing that you feel inspired to do and that one must go do.

I think we have to embody that? Because I think our goal is to share the honesty. Real story.

Yeah.

And the bright side is always that we have each other. Right. The bright side is that the myth of individualism will kill you, literally. And that if we remember that we are a collective, remember that we are not alone, which is what happens when you are honest with your story, then we remember that we get through this only together. And I think the moon in this chart does speak to that, because it is about relationships. That is beautiful. Being connected with others, Tani, incorporating all.

The knowledge that you just imbued us with about our charts. Can you give us an affirmation for our show that we can keep in mind moving forward?

Oh, my gosh.

We're really putting you on the spot now, right? Yeah.

An affirmation for the show. I think what I was gonna say is I use my energy to serve something greater than myself, that I am not taken off course by interruptions and by life being life. But I am committed to a long term process of moving towards something that is equitable and fair and just, a world that is considerate of all that are in it.

So we're wrapping up march and going into April. What are the major astrological events that listeners should be mindful of?

Oh, man. I mean, April's a tough month.

Don't say that.

Can I be honest? I never hear someone who's into astrology say that things are going great.

It's always. I know, I know, I know, I know.

It's always Mercury's in retrograde. There's always something bad happening.

Yeah. Cause you know why? Cause fear on the Internet side. Okay. Right. Okay, so there's really beautiful things happening in April. There's just a really tough eclipse on April 8. It's a time where I think it might be a little rumbly and bumpy for the world, but there's something gorgeous happening. Okay, so, for your listeners, okay, for your listeners, there is a gorgeous conjunction of Jupiter and Uranus that is happening in Taurus, and it hasn't happened since the forties. And Jupiter is a planet of abundance, and Uranus is a planet of innovation. And so they're happening. They're coming together in Taurus, which is about material life, and I think the workforce. And so I think that there's going to be something really innovative and helpful and hopeful in terms of maybe the economy, maybe in terms of a marginalized group or groups busting through into a new sector of the workforce. The last time we had it, one of the archetypes that came through was Rosie the Riffeter. And so it was like women going into the workforce in a way, and folks of color going into the workforce in a way, but it was a huge change in the ways in which we thought of, like and who can do it.

This was really cool. Thank you. I feel like you saged our space. Thank you for bringing this to me.

Thank you so much for having me.

Thank you so much, Chani.

Simone, was our conversation with Chani enough time for you to become an astrology believer?

I don't know. Believe is a strong word. It's a strong word, Danielle.

Come on.

But I had a lot of fun with you today. Before we close out the episode, we have a little spark of brightness. Our key takeaway from our conversation with Chani that we want to share, and that is astrology is one tool that can unlock the blueprint for your potential. Whatever tool you choose, we empower you to pursue your life's purpose. Undaunted.

If you're like me and you want a little more from Chani, check out her app. It's called Chani, and you can find it wherever you get apps. Tomorrow we'll test our red flag radar with dating coach and the host of the do the work podcast, Sabrina Zohar. You don't want to miss it.

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