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The cigar was given to me by a legendary detective of the Brooklyn north homicide squad. Lewis had been the detective on the first two murder cases. The defendant was a dealer named Robert Hill.

I was talking to Robert Hill. I said, scarcella is the officer in your case. And he's like, yeah. I said, that's the same officer in my case.

He was known to use the same witness over and over again, a woman named Teresa Gomez.

This may sound funny coming from me. Where do you get a witness who sees five murders, eight murders? Theresa Gomez is a motion picture extravaganza. In her a story her story is unbelievable. And I believed every word she said.

Detective scarcella and Teresa Gomez, his favorite witness. They had a partnership, a special partnership. Teresa was his secret weapon. A key to solving some of Brooklyn's toughest cold cases when no leads could be found. And solving tough cases, that's what everyone wanted. Bad guys go to prison. The end.

The actual innocence team was trying to prove scarcella was corrupt. And for them, Teresa was key evidence. Louie and Teresa go way back. One night in the mid eighties, Louie's at a rowhouse in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. It's a worn brick building, nondescript except for one detail. There's a dead body in the yard. Louie starts looking for witnesses.

I go into the house, which is a crack house. I go on the third floor, and I always have my gun. I always carry two guns. I kick the door open, and Theresa Gomez in bed with this john. And she looks up and she says, who the fuck you are? Gun smoke. Because I had a cigar and I had my gun out. And I says, bitch, get out of bed. Did John almost shit his pants right then and there? I felt something. I just felt something about her, you know?

Who the fuck are you?

Gunsmoke. It started there. I just felt a spark of something.

That spark would lead Louie from a crack house to the courtroom, to a damning article on the front of the New York Times. Teresa Gomez would become the star witness in half a dozen murder cases, all of them Louis. The fates of those on trial hinged on whether a jury believed her. So would Louie's reputation.

They could go fuck themselves. I did nothing wrong. I'm a sinner, baby, I'm all the.

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Welcome to the burden. I'm Dax Dublin Ross.

And I'm Steve Fishman. In this episode, this crazy world of.

Murder, they all knew about Teresa. Teresa Gomez.

Teresa Gomez.

Teresa Gomez.

The witness in these two cases was a crack addict named Teresa Gomez.

There was no way that this woman had witnessed all those murders.

Scarcella used her as a witness in six separate murder cases.

As far as a crackhead seeing homicides.

That wouldn't be surprising. She was in either the wrong place at the wrong time or the right place at the right time on multiple occasions. Theresa Gomez, the woman that has been the center of my life for the last nine and a half years. You gotta hold on tightly. Don't you dare let go. Gonna ride this farmer till we move it close.

Okay? So back at the crack house, gunsmoke aka luis Garcella, busts through the bedroom door into an awkward situation.

Then Louis brings Teresa to the precinct for questioning. He cleans her up, buys her some food and cigarettes. And they talk.

I have the gift of gab, as you probably know by now.

So you're sitting in this room, I'm schmoozing four to 6 hours. I mean, maybe even. Maybe even longer.

Okay, this is what a detective does. We start talking about murders in the precinct.

Theresa didn't have anything to say about the body in the yard. But she does start telling Scarcella about other murders. Cold cases with no promising leads.

And I'm saying, wait a minute, theresa, you were there? And she says, yeah. And I'm saying, what about this? And, oh, that was this one. And that was this guy.

And so Louis had stumbled into a detective's dream. A witness who seems to be everywhere and to see everything.

It's surprise, happiness, a little nervousness, little butterflies in your stomach. Because when you're getting a witness that knows what they're saying. And yeah, it was. It was really a good feeling.

It's like fucking triumph. Over and over again, Teresa became Scarcella's go to witness. On another night, he had another dead body in a yard and no leads.

All of a sudden, I look at where I am and I say, oh, my God. Theresa lives in the white house around the corner. She lives in that house. Go around the corner. I press the button on the bell. I still hear it. She comes down, she looks at me. She goes, gunsmoke. He killed my baby.

And she named the murderer who Louis arrested. Louis and Teresa fell into a routine.

I used to meet Teresa Gomez in front of St. Teresa's church. And I would just see her in the street and give it a high sign just to make sure she was all right. I'd give her $20. And we just talk and whatnot. Getting ready for the next case.

Or just talk, you know, about their favorite topic. Murder. Mostly small talk.

This fucking guy is no good. This guy's no good. Pocho did this murder. We're trying to identify. I remember Pocho. We were looking for Pocho and Pocho.

Yeah.

Fucking poacher.

Like any relationship, theirs had ups and downs. Sometimes Louie would threaten to lock Teresa up for doing crack. Just joking.

Of course we had a relationship. I knew her. Sometimes she'd tell me, go fuck myself.

What would prompt her to do that?

When I tell her to go fuck herself.

She did have a sense of humor.

Yeah, she was brave.

Did she know she was brave.

I don't think she gave a fuck.

But she gave enough of a fuck about her friend Louie to risk her life for him. As they say, snitches get stitches. And she participated in six different trials, all Louie's cases, according to the official count, and I've said it once, and I'll say it again, who sees six murders?

What's so shocking that she might witness multiple incidents?

Joe Ponte was the chief investigator for the Brooklyn district attorney back then. He worked closely with Louie.

She was moving from crack den to crack den in a concentrated area in the seven seven precinct at that time, where violence was happening everywhere. So when people scoff at the notion that a woman could have witnessed multiple incidents, they have no concept of what it was like back then.

The square mile where Teresa lived and operated was in Scarsella's territory. And at that time, the 1980s, there was an obscene number of murders in that square mile, like 100 per year. So one person could see a lot of homicides, especially since those murders were clustered within a few blocks of where Teresa stayed.

But let's look at it another way for Scarcella. Having this witness, who over and over again will help him close cases that had to be great for his career. Let's just look at the record. Within a few years of meeting Teresa Gomez, he was promoted to the elite Brooklyn north homicide. He went from a lowly third grade to a first grade detective, the highest level a detective can achieve.

I was very happy because I was a third grade for a number of years, and I did think that this would help my career. I'd lie to you. Look, my father was a third grade detective for 27 years. He never made grades. It took me 20 years to make first grade. I knew she was helping me, and I would lie to you if I said no.

Louis doesn't have an incentive to doubt the credibility or question the motive of this woman. She was giving names. He was arresting them. The prosecutors put her on the stand, and the judges and juries sent them to prison. It worked. Why question it?

It did work. It worked for the entire justice system. In fact, no one in the system seemed to worry about her credibility. I think most people just thought she was useful. They didn't even know who she was.

That's in a moment.

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For all the trials she testified in, no one really seemed to know Theresa.

I had a really hard time getting information on her.

She was middle of the road. She was never really happy, never really saved. There was nothing overly distinctive about her. Skinny, average size, disheveled.

I think she married somebody for residency.

I think she was jamaican.

I understand that she was an immigrant from Trinidad.

One person who did know Theresa was Robert Hill.

Remember Robert Hill? He is the one who helped launch Frenchie's New York Times investigation into Scarcella.

Back in the 1980s, Hill and Theresa moved in the same circles. Both sold drugs. Hill sometimes sold Teresa crack. Even gave her a good customer discount. Robert Hill made his living robbing drug dealers in one neighborhood and selling their drugs in another. Later, Theresa said that he'd robbed her at gunpoint.

She talks to Louis and accuses Hill of murder. But it doesn't go the way she expected. Hill was picked up, he was questioned, and then he was released. Teresas life must get really scary. And heres a guy she accused of murder, and hes back on the streets.

So what should Theresa do? Better call Louie. The same day hill was released, Teresa contacts detective scarcella. She said Hill wants, quote, big mouth Theresa Gomez to pay the piper. And now, lucky for Theresa, it just so happens she has another murder to offer Scarcella. She now tells her favorite detective she saw Robert hill kill someone else.

So let's get this straight. She named hill in one murder. And once he's back out in the streets, she suddenly remembers another murder she saw Hill commit, one she had neglected to mention before.

So the cops pick hill up again on the very same day he's released on the first murder.

That's just astounding to me. And it makes me wonder, was she really a helpless drug addict or was she a master manipulator? I mean, people claim Scarcella used Teresa, but maybe it was the other way around. Maybe she used him. And in this case, at least, to survive.

I asked Garcella about that.

If she used me as her private homicide detective, she used the district attorney's office also. She manipulated the system and got over on people much smarter than me. You're the only person who's saying that. That didn't come up, but I don't think so.

In any event, now Robert Hill was headed to trial for murder, for two murders, actually back to back trials. And Theresa, she'd testify in both.

The first trial came and went. Theresa said Robert Hill did it. And the medical examiner said he couldn't have done it. Robert Hill was acquitted.

But then a twist. The medical examiner realized she made a mistake, but it was too late. The trial was over. Now, though, Teresa is apparently credible again, at least thats what the prosecutor is thinking. So he figures, hell, give her another shot at the second Robert Hill trial. Before we get there, I want to remind you of that cigar forum post, the one frenchie discovered back in episode one.

It was near folly to even think that anyone would believe Gomez about anything, let alone the fact that she witnessed the same guy kill two different people.

The guy who wrote that cigar forum post is the prosecutor in both Robert Hill trials. He just lost the first case and the second is looming. And now he's about to put Teresa on the stand again.

So the same prosecutor who says that no one should believe Teresa is the same prosecutor who puts her on the stand twice. I mean, this is just amazing.

Listen, I think what he might be saying is he feared no one would believe her. He hopes they will. Okay, so let's examine her behavior in the courtroom. We have transcripts from trial number two. In that case, Theresa claimed she saw Hill shoot the victim two times point blank.

Here's a question the defense attorney asked Teresa after the first shot was fired. How long a period elapsed before the second shot was fired? Teresa's answer, I can't say. How long a period of time before the second shot? Question was it more than five minutes? Teresa responds, if I just say, I can't say. You can't ask me how many minutes it was. At this point, the judge butts in. Well, do you know the difference between, let's say, five minutes and 15 minutes? Of course I know the difference, your honor. Was it closer to five minutes? Closer to 15 minutes? Closer to five. Did you see him fall to the ground? Of course I had to see him fall to the ground in order to tell you that. What do you think, I'm crazy? Did he fall to the ground after, after the first shot and before the second shot? No. He stood up and danced.

She's belligerent, she's sarcastic. She's rude. Frenchie robles, ridiculous, argumentative, getting all the facts wrong. Doesn't remember.

The defense attorney had Theresa's testimony from the first trial so he can compare her answers in the second. And guess what? She's inconsistent. She's very inconsistent. In one trial, she was married in 85. In another, she testified she was married in 87. In one, she'd been in Brooklyn seven years. In another, twelve years. Teresa actually admitted she lied in the first trial, more or less because she was in a bad mood.

Here's what Theresa says on the stand about her testimony in that first trial, I could have testified to anything because I was angry and frustrated and miserable. I just didn't want to be bothered, keep the defense counsel from bugging me, end quote.

Dax, she just admitted to being a liar.

And I gotta wonder what the jury made of this.

Well, we were able to track down a juror from the second Robert Hill case. The juror wanted to remain anonymous, but said that pretty much all the jury discussed was whether Theresa was believable. This person explained the jury's reasoning. A crack addict might have a damaged brain, she might not remember certain details, but she would remember somebody blowing someones head off with a gun. A month or so after the trial, this juror is with a friend on the subway when they happen to run into the prosecutor. He thanked the juror. He said, we finally got this guy. Hes murdered a lot of people. And he said that theyd never been able to get him because none of the previous witnesses came across as credible. Then he congratulated the juror. You guys did the right thing. And the juror felt awesome.

Robert Hill was convicted of murder in the second degree and sentenced to 18 to life.

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Louis is and has always been a believer in Teresa.

Teresa Gomez was a truthful eyewitness.

But the district attorney's conviction review unit could not disagree more. The DA's office set up the CRU to reinvestigate questionable convictions, and Robert Hills was one of them. Its investigation did agree that Teresa could have witnessed six murders. Not unreasonable, it concluded.

So her prolificness as a witness, which seems so scandalous today, it's plausible, yeah.

But it does have problems with her credibility. The report called her increasingly erratic, inconsistent, and incredible. It didn't say Robert Hill was innocent, but it does say that Teresa never should have been allowed to testify. Taylor Coss is one of the attorneys in the Cru who reviewed Robert Hill's case. He wouldn't have believed anything Teresa said.

And in fact, in one of the.

Trials, she definitely testified high Asa kite and the judge had to, like, stop the proceedings in the middle.

But here's the shocker. Teresa Gomez, Scarcella's go to witness is usually seen as proof that he cheated to get convictions. But the report is definitive in this regard. Quote, there is no indication Scarcella pressured her to be a witness, went out of his way to procure her as a witness, or falsified her witness statements. Everyone knew who Teresa Gomez was. It was totally up to prosecutors whether to use Gomez.

And they shouldn't have. But what I guess I'm struggling with here is, and correct me if I'm wrong, it sounds like they're saying Scarcella is exonerated.

Yeah, I think that's what they are saying. And I do think it's confusing. I mean, the report basically says that Louis go to witness is basically crap. Totally not believable. But they dont say that Louis had any duty to investigate her credibility. I mean, as a first grade detective, you dont have to look at the credibility of your lead witness. So one day, I met Louie at the diner, that same diner in Coney island where we first met years earlier. Do you think you were ever gullible with her?

If you're saying, did she get over on me, did she get over on a whole cadre of district attorneys? Did she get over on the judge and the juries? I think not. I did my job. I thought she was a credible witness. She proved herself to be a credible witness, and in some cases, she wasn't a credible witness. That. That, um. I'm not gonna, um. I'm not gonna take any blame for that. I'm not gonna, um, say I'm sorry, but I brought her to the DA, and they brought her to court. The jury looked at her, the judge looked at her. The judge could have thrown the cases out on any two occasions during the trial.

So in Louis mind, he's the person who's been wrongfully convicted.

Ray Childs could see that I'm a scapegoat.

But that's not how Robert Hill sees it. I mean, he spent 27 years in prison because of Teresa Gomez, and he just shouldn't have.

In May of 2014, Robert Hill limped into a Brooklyn courtroom. The head of the CRU addressed the court.

District attorney has determined that the use of this witness impairing the integrity of the conviction against Mister Hill deprived him.

Of a fair trial.

Robert Hill was 52 years old. His dreadlocks were pulled back. That day, he walked out of the court a free man with the help of a cane. He was thronged by the press as he made his way to freedom.

This feels good.

I want to go home with my.

Family right now and take a bath.

After all that's happened. Louie still insists he believes Teresa and he still cares about her.

A lot of people considered a lot of these murders insignificant. A lot of them, I'm telling you, a lot of people in high places, and they would think Theresa Gomez was insignificant. She was a crackhead and she was special to me. I offered her everything. I offered her a new life. I know I could have gotten her a job. I know I could have gotten her a place to stay. She wanted no part of it. Whenever you see my picture, her picture comes up, and that's her there. And it's like taking me back to the time we were together in this crazy world of murder. Hey, Joe. Louis scarcella. How are you, buddy?

I'm sitting in Louis scarcella's house in staten Island. A modest house, two floors. Louie and his wife upstairs, one of his daughters downstairs. It's Christmas. Louis living room is covered. I mean, every surface in decorations.

Anything ever come out with the Teresa Gomez?

We learned something new. The cru didn't have the full picture. They didn't talk to Louis. And Louie told us theresa claimed to witness eleven murders. Even the Da thought that eleven was just too many. And that ended Theresa's tenure as a witness. That was in the early nineties. The same time that Louis's relationship with Teresa ended. As I sit at Louis's dining room table, it's almost 30 years later, and Louie wants to find out what happened to theresa. So he's on the phone.

As you said, you were going to check the morgue if you got a chance. You know, if you can give me a call. I appreciate it. Bye bye.

Louie had heard a rumor that Teresa was killed in the early nineties.

What baffles my mind was right there in the seven seven. It was my zone. How could she have gotten killed? Maybe it was a homicide on a different name. And it just went right by me. And I didn't catch it.

The cru located her death certificate. Theresa died on June 17, 1993. She'd fallen out of a moving car. The report doesn't say she was pushed, but a lot of people must have been happy to see her dead. Louie, for one, thinks it was a homicide. She's got to know she's sacrificing her life to help luis garcella.

I cannot answer that question. I tried everything I could do to protect her.

Another time, louis takes me to Theresa's mother's apartment in brooklyn. Maybe she can tell him what happened to Theresa. But he's out of luck. A neighbor tells us that Teresa's mother recently passed away. Louis. Disappointed. We get back in my car, and we drive to their meeting place in front of st. Teresa's church.

She'd just get in the backseat, and I would just try to drive around. Sometimes I'd stay here. Sometimes I'd meet her in a mom's house. But she was. She would always hang out around here. If I was looking for her, I'd find her.

As we sit in the car, suddenly the church bells ring. The bells of st. Teresa.

As the bells tolls.

Toll.

What are they? Toll for theresa Gomez. For Teresa Gomez. I really. I feel bad. If she was murdered, I hope she wasn't. And if she was a hope it ended fast. Because I'm not saying I got her killed. I'm not saying that.

But you are. Kind of.

But I cannot feel. I mean, I wouldn't be human if I didn't feel that way.

Next time on the burden, the dilemma of Derrick Hamilton, the leader of the jailhouse law firm, who claims he was framed twice.

The judge puts his arms around me, I mean, in a tight hug, and he kind of speaks into my ear, and he says, just take it easy. Just calm down. We both know who this guy is. We both know he's guilty. So can't you just calm down and let this go? I'm a sinner, baby, I'm all the.

Power you need now I'm out of.

The bottle I'm gonna set you free.

The burden is created by Steve Fishman. That's me. It's hosted and reported by Steve, Steve Fishman and Dax Devlin Ross. Story editor is Dan Babkoff. Our senior producer is Simon Rentner. Our producer is Sanam Skellig. Associate producer Austin Smith. Fact checking by Sona Avakian our production coordinator is Devon paradise. Mixing in sound design by mumble Media. Our executive producers are Fisher Stevens, Evan Williams, and me, Steve Fishman. Additional production help from Josie Holtzman, Isaac Kestenbaum, Naomi Brauner, Lucy Suchek, Drew Nellis, Micah Hazel, Priscilla, Alabi, Saxon Baird, Katie Simon and Katie Spranger. We give special thanks to Ellen Horne, Lizzie Jacobs, Nathan Tempe, Tobiah Black, Rachel Morrissey, Lila Robinson, Mark Smerling, and Zack Stuart Pontiet. And deep appreciation to Marcy Wiseman. Special thanks to our agents Ben Davis and Marissa Hurowitz. Mona Hook provided our legal advice. She's from MKSR LLP. And a very special thanks to Evan Williams, one of our executive producers and the person who made this podcast possible. We are honored to feature the song Black Lightning from the Bell rays as our theme music. The burden is a production of orbit media in association with signal companies. Number one.

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