To anybody that's ever been mean to me, if you're having a hard time in life, good. On this episode of The commercial break. Most of the.

Guys I date are, I pick them up. Do you want me to.

Send you a few random dick picks from some Finstah accounts?

I mean, maybe it'll make me feel a little more included or part of this generation.

A little more. I'm going to put it on my to-do list. Every once in a Blue Moon. Everybody's in. Christina's a random dick pick. Not my dick, but.

Somebody No, other dicks, please.

There's so many of them on the internet. You could find dicks all over the place. The next episode of The commercial break starts now. The 30th of the morning. Oh, yeah, cats and Kittz want to welcome back to The commercial break. I am Brian Greene. This is my dear friend, the sister I never had, long-time supporter of The commercial break, Tina. Best to you, Tina.

Best.

To you, Brian. And best to you out there in the podcast universe. How does it feel to be sitting in a chair?

I love it. You do?

I do. You've been a fan of the show since the very beginning. You're the sister I never had. You've been a friend of mine for 30 years.

I think this summer was.

30 years. Isn't that crazy? 30 years.

We're old.

I'm a fucking old man. I feel like I'm going to be wearing diapers pretty soon. But that's good because I have all these extras from all these children that I have running around.

That's why.

You waited so late. Don't worry about it. That's right. I just need an extra size. Size five is where they end. I feel like I need a size 12. But if they could make a diaper in a size 12, which I'm sure they do for some people, then I'll be wearing them sooner rather than later. You may notice that Tina is not Chrissy, and Chrissy is not Tina by nature, just by default. Thank goodness. Organically.

One of me is enough.

I agree with you. Chrissy has to take some additional time off because of a pressing family health issue. Papa Joe just passed away six weeks ago, and here comes again. I guess the old adage is, When it rains, it pours. And Chrissy is walking through fire right now. So she will be checking in with the show periodically. Don't worry, she'll be back. When she's going to be back, we don't know. But we're here to support her, and we love her. Our hearts are with her. Yeah, we send all the love in the world, and God damn does she need it, and her family, too. So we're sending best wishes, best to you out there, the Haudley's, and that's that. I can't say too much more. I don't feel like it's appropriate right now to say too much more. So let Chrissy say it when she comes back, if she comes back. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. No, I'm kidding. She'll be back. Of course, she will. How was your Thanksgiving?

It was lovely. It was quiet. I made a lasagna.

You made a.

Lasagna for yourself? Well, for myself and my boyfriend, yeah.

Yeah? Why not Turkey?

It was just the two of us. I was recovering from surgery.

Oh, really? Yeah. So you're like playing Nurse?

I did for the whole.

Week, yeah. When you play Nurse, do you get in any outfits? Does he ask.

You to- I wore an apron once.

Just an apron? Just an apron. Fantastic. I love it. Just like I want to be a fly on Chris's wall, I want to be a fly on your wall, too. I don't know what's going on over there. Because I know you're a freak. You're a freak. Admittedly. You've been a freak since I met you. Yes. We met at Bertuch's, the Brick.

Oven Pizzeria? No, my high school boyfriend lived across the street from you.

Oh, that's right. That's right. That guy. That guy. That guy. Yeah. You kept up with that guy? Yeah. We don't want to say his name. I don't want to get into particulars.

He's got five kids now. He's got a set.

Of triplets. He's got almost as many children as I do. He's got a set.

Of triplets? Yes. They decided to have another one after that.

They decided they made it on purpose, yes.

They made it a-.

On purpose, yes. -a rational decision to have another one.

I don't know.

If rational is the right word. No, you got that right. I can't imagine. After triplets, don't you just stop? Wouldn't you? Absolutely. There's no reason to go on.

No, let's.

Have five. Why not? I've told this story before, but I was with my family over the Thanksgiving, and we were telling birthing stories, and my aunt was there and all this other stuff. My dad shares the story. My mom was pregnant before they did ultrasounds. It just wasn't something that was very common. It was done for emergency purposes in big hospitals. The machines were very expensive. The technology wasn't really evolved. What they did, if there was a problem oftentimes, was take an X-ray, a fucking X-ray of a pregnant belly. Awful. Awful. Disgusting.

It's the reason they don't do that anymore.

Yeah, that's the reason they don't do that. It's just like shooting the kid up directly with morphine. Directly. Yeah, directly with morphine. Why would you at all think of doing an X-ray?

Yeah, they put those big, heavy vests on you, even if they think you might could be pregnant.

That's right.

Yeah, just to get your teeth X-ray.

Yeah, when I get my teeth X-ray, I have this 50-pound thing all over my chest, and I hate getting those teeth X-rays when they stick those things way back in your mouth. Oh, it's awful. It's disgusting. But my dad explained, and I've heard this story so many times, but it's just too funny. My mom, water breaks, it's time to go. My dad gets in the car, he drives her to the hospital. Nurse comes in. Yes, you're in labor. Obviously, the babies are coming. The baby is coming sooner rather than later. Another nurse, two hours later, comes in to check on my mom, and she says, I'm going to call a doctor in here real quick. I'm a little confused by the heartbeat that I'm hearing. I need to call a doctor. I think everything's okay, but I'm hearing a lot of heartbeat. So she thinks that the heartbeat has sped up. Well, the doctor comes in, he listens to my mom's belly. Then he looks at my dad and he goes, Well, there's two of them. My dad basically passes out in the chair. Of course. He's like, What the fuck? There's two of them.

There's twins. Because that is how you found out in 1939 when I was born. Surprise. Surprise. Hey, it's Kevin and Brian. My dad went to Kmart while my mom was in labor to buy an.

Extra cream. Set of.

Everything, yeah. An extra cream, an extra set of bottles. I mean, I just can't even imagine. I told Astrid when she first got pregnant with the first of 12 children. I said, Hey, listen, if we have twins, that's it. We're stopping. Game over. There's no reason to go on. Don't press your luck, basically.

Right. It's a rolling of the dice.

Yeah, and then I was talking to this friend of mine, and we were talking about having multiples of children, and he said he told his wife, We got one with 10 fingers and 10 toes. Why press your luck? You already have a health... It really is a game, especially in 2023 in the United States of America. But I just stop. If you have triplets, there is no reason to.

Go on. They had one. They had triplets, and they were like, What's one more?

Yeah, what's one more?

Why not? Get extra use out of these clothings and high chairs.

There's the other side of this, which is once you have three, they already outnumber you. They'll raise each other. Don't even worry about it. Chaos will ensue no matter what you do, so might as well throw another one.

Yeah, they'll name it, they'll feed it, they'll change it. They're going to wake it up anyway. It's fine. Just let them do it.

They're going to wake it up anyway. That's like my fucking dog. I can't take this dog anymore. I don't know what to do. I don't know what to do. There's nothing to do. There's nothing to do. You can't euthanize a perfectly healthy dog.

You're in river vocal cords.

Yeah, there is a procedure upon which you can do that, but I think it's generally frowned upon.

I know, they'll freeze them.

It might be cruel. I don't know. It might be, but there's got to be circumstances where it's warranted. Sure. And if there are circumstances where it's warranted, I have to be one of them. I have to be in that case. Textbook. Textbook, classic case of over-anxiety, a dog who had nothing works.

Did I ever tell you about my dog with anxiety? No. Okay, I had this little shitsu, Bichon mix because I was hypoallergenic and supposed to be smart, all this stuff. This dog had broke out in hives. What? Just because I left it in its crate, barked incessantly. I kept taking it to the doctor. He's like, Your dog has ADD and anxiety. I was like, Send it back.

Send it back? Did you give it back?

I ended up giving it away. Did you really? I did to my nail check. I was going on vacation for my 30th birthday to Cancun, and I needed someone to watch the dog. His kid was home for the summer. He came to your nail tack. I just never went back to pick him up.

Oh, my God. You never went back to pick it up? Did you guys have a conversation? No. No? Tina, how old are you when this happened? Thirty. Oh, my God. You're a 30-year-old, and you basically abandoned your ghost and your dog?

I gave him the crate. I gave him the clothing, all the little goodies I had bought for the dog. I couldn't deal with it anymore. Oh, my God, Tina. The thing had more health problems and mental health problems than my bipolar ex-husband. How the fuck. How the fuck. I had three kids.

Oh, yeah, well, there.

You go. I had a.

Crazy ex-husband. Well, listen, I understand.

I was in school full-time.

Did you ever go back to the nail place? Hell no. Hell no.

How do you walk.

Back in there? You don't walk.

Back in there. That dog was a nightmare.

Did they call you? No, No. No one called you. No. No one called to say, Hey, do you want your dog back? No, the.

Little boy got a free hypoallergenic dog.

Oh, my God. It's probably in some stew somewhere or something. Probably? Yeah. I'm watching this 90-Day fiancé and one of the guys, he has pet guinea pigs that he is allergic to.

Amazing. He met this girl in Mexico or Ecuador, or wherever he met her. Ecuador, I think is what it was. He met this girl in Ecuador, and then when she comes to live with him for the 90 days, the first thing he does is ask her to give the guinea pigs a bat because he breaks out of the vibe.

I'm running.

I'm running. Well, first of all, an adult man who has guinea pigs is a problem. My cousin's.

Husband had guinea pigs.

When they met. Well, they're cute as they can be, but did you know that in South America they are food? They're food. And so the girl says in Spanish on one of these things..

She.

Goes, Hey, listen, I'm glad he has guinea pigs. That way, if we ever run into money trouble and don't have any food, we've got dinner. We won't be hungry. The guy looks mortified. But dude, you have guinea pigs and you're allergic to them. Why do you have guinea pigs if you're allergic to them? It's outrageous to me. He learned how to make the guinea pig noises, so we talk to them. Oh, stop. Yeah, please. It's all over the place. But I'm still trying to- Go back to Ecuador. I know. Well, you have room to talk. I'm still trying to figure out how you left your dog with someone and never had a follow-up conversation. I get it.

I figured he probably would have if it wasn't working out. I never heard of them. They either put it in a crock pot or they loved the dog. Either way, win-win for me.

It is a win-win for you. I told that.

I kept the Xanax that they prescribed the dog.

Oh, my God. I've got the liquid Xanax that they give the dog. Unfortunately, it doesn't work the same as humans. But trust me, I've thought a few times about testing it out.

Hey, nothing wrong with experimenting.

I agree with you. They give the.

Same- That's how we got to know each other.

Experimenting. A lot of experimenting. My den of inequities basement, where everything was going on, the place was.

Fucking crazy. We had a.

Great time. That was the other thing that my little brother, Danny, the middle child in the football team known as the Green Family, he was sharing a story with the table about how he took LSD one time, and I took LSD one time, and we were communicating with each other in another language. We were having a breakthrough moment, a spiritual experience. He happened. My dad is just sitting there with his head in his hands. Oh, poor dad. I'm like, Danny, give dad a break. Danny's like- He's got.

To get these.

Stories eventually. I know. That's what.

Danny said. I waited too late to tell my folks God rest.

Their souls. Yeah. Well, it's probably better that they didn't know. My dad has some time to process. We're talking about 30 years ago.

25 years ago. Everybody's okay now, so it's fine.

Everyone turned out just fine. The stories are good. Look, I'm on the commercial break making $30 an episode. Look at this. Everything worked out great. My dad is like, he's just shaking his head and Danny says, Listen, dad- I love your dad. -we spared you. We waited 10 years to let these stories start leaking out. That's right. You're welcome. And my dad said the following, and I knew it. He said, Ignorance is bliss. I knew it. I knew that he knew what was going on down in that basement. He had to. He had to have. But all the cards that were stacked against him, four children, a wife who was sick.

Yeah, he just had to button it up, get through it, because it was better that everybody was there anyway. I agree. Yeah.

At least we were there. We weren't driving around town. It's true. Most of the time we were driving around town.

We were safe from the police.

Most of the time we were safe from the police, yes. Other motorists, yeah. Unless we invited them over to the house by catching the local robbing gang. Mushroom. Yeah.

Great mushroom escapade.

Danny reminded me of the one time that we had this party in my basement one time, and I don't know if you were there. I imagine you probably were. But my dad went on town for a long weekend, and no one was there to babysit us. But we were 16 years old. He says, Hey, hold the fort down for just one weekend. Can you possibly.

Do that?

Please don't burn it down. Of course we can. We invited everybody we knew over to the house for a party. There was a party, a three-story house. On every story, there was a different scene going on. Down in the basement, it was a lot of weed smoking. In the middle of the house. I think there was some ecstasy going on. Then the top of the house, everybody was high on mushrooms or LSD. As the morning broke, it was just chaos the whole night. Everyone is so fucked up. It's just chaos. You're moving from room to room, having conversations, probably in some alien language. Telepathically. But then the one thing that my dad asked me to do before he left is cut the grass. Make sure you cut the grass. So as dawn broke, I put the speakers of my stereo out the windows of the front of the house, and I played Beethoven's Ninth Symphony while I cut the grass in nothing but a bathtub wrapped around me.

But the.

Grass got cut. The grass, well, it somewhat got cut until my neighbor came outside and he walked over and he was like, I think it's- Are we okay? Yeah, that's exactly what he was. He was a preacher in this small Methodist Church and he came up. He was always so nice. He came over and he says, Listen, Brian, it's great that you're cutting grass, but it's 6:35 in the morning. You've got Beethoven playing out the window. You're not exactly fully dressed for the occasion. Why don't we just go back inside, we'll cut the music off for now, and I'll help you cut the grass later. He knew what was going on. This is a preacher, pastor at a Methodist church. He knew what was going on. He sent me back inside with such love and care for my condition that it actually got through. I was like, Oh, okay. Yeah, all right, cool. You're going to help me later? You know what? I slept the next 48 hours, but the grass was cut when I woke up.

Thank.

You, Preacher. Good old Doyle. Doyle took care of me. Thank you, Doyle. I appreciate it.

How to get pastors to do your chores. Step one.

Step.

One. And- Show up in a towel.

Lots of LSD. That's step two. Speak in alien light language is step three. Beethoven's ninth. 6:00 AM. 6:35 AM. I'll never forget him talking to me. But Danny said the entire house, everybody who was at the house was just staring out the window. They were like, What is he doing?

How could you not?

I don't know what I was thinking, actually. This is normal. It's normal. You spent more than a few weekends, more than a few weekdays probably down at that house.

Oh, yeah. I think you were over there. I skipped a lot of school in that house a lot. Remember Leslie's need in her.

Chevy Nova? I do remember Leslie and her Chevy Nova. We won't get into all those gory details as someone may not choose to be on the podcast. She was a lovely girl, and I love that Chevy Nova. Absolutely. We had a lot of good times. Yeah, I like that girl with that Chevy Nova. We had a lot of good times. Yeah, Leslie was a sweet girl.

She'd be like, We don't need to go to school today. No, the Greens are home. I bet they are.

And you know what? She was the most, I don't want to say she was religious. I don't want to put that on her. But she was a very, what would seem like a good girl.

She wasn't as squiggly as we were.

Yes, she wasn't as squiggly as we were. And she was cutting class. I don't even think she had anything to do with what was going on in the basement. I think she just liked to skip class and go down there. And we met because your boyfriend lived across the street, and then you, I guess, he knew my little brother Danny, and then.

You would come in. He had just moved here our freshman year. Yeah, he was a new kid, and he had weed.

Yeah.

I was like, Where did you get this? Because he showed up and he was straight edge. Do you remember that? Oh, yeah, he do. I was like, Give me 10 days.

I think it took three.

And then he was like, oddly enough, my neighbor, and that's how it all happened.

But then there was a period of time where we worked at Bertouch's Brick Oven Pizzeria. We did.

That was a couple of years later when that restaurant opened. Well, I think I was 15 when I started.

What a hot mess. And what just a bad idea of a restaurant.

But that was one of the funniest jobs.

It really was.

Yeah. And when they opened up Roswell, I mean, yeah, anyway, we had a great time.

It was one of those jobs. And all the managers were just.

Like-.

Fantastic. They were fantastic, but they were also buckets of trouble themselves. 100 %. I mean, I remember one of the managers would take me to concerts. He was married, and his wife wouldn't go with him anywhere. Wouldn't do anything with him. I don't think she liked him at all. He would take me to concerts of Old Rocket, like Santana. I went to a Santana concert with him. That's awesome. And he would just ply me with alcohol and weed to come to the show with him.

But that's with the restaurant industry. That's all it was, anyways.

At the time. And that's why my daughters, if I can, my sons, will never work in the.

Restaurant industry. I wouldn't let mine. I said, When you move out, you can. But while you're under my roof, no restaurant industry of any kind.

Of any kind.

Because from the McDonalds to the Bertouchis to the Italian territoria, we're giving away free bottles of Keante Classico vinegar. It's shit wine, Tony. Why are we doing this? What are we giving them? We're giving them liquid vinegar.

It's disgusting. No one wants that. Cook with it.

Yeah, cook with it. Well, they did cook with it. That was the crazy part. They bought boxes upon boxes, and every table had to have a bottle of Keante Classico on it. It was like an $18 bottle of wine at the restaurant. Probably cost two. $2.99 to get in the door. The writing on the front was all in Italian, except for the alcohol content. I think people thought they were in Italy by giving away a bottle of Chiante Classico.

It's legitimate.

It's legit. Must be legit. It says fragilee. Must be French. But those restaurants, they are nothing but fucking trouble.

Cesspool.

They're Cesspools of trouble.

Incestuous drug dens.

Drug dens with high sexual energy.

Everybody's sleeping with everyone.

Everybody's sleeping with everybody. It's awful. It's awful, but so much fucking fun when you're in the middle of it. I don't have so much fun. I just don't want my kids to go through it because I'm not sure they'll be able to handle it like I did.

Because look at me. No, nobody's Gen X anymore. They're too weak.

I wonder what it's like to work in a restaurant now. I wonder if things have changed.

Well, you can't ask my children, because to date, neither one of them have.

Done it. Well, congratulations. Yeah, thank you. So far you've been a.

Great parent. They've been employed each since they were 16 and not one restaurant.

One of my kids was asking me if he could be a McDonald's chef when he grew up. That's cute. I was like, Sure, no problem. And then Hesterhead goes, Your dad was a McDonald's.

Thanks, honey.

I was a McDonald's chef for five days until they realized I couldn't hack it on the grid. Did she.

Get marriage points for that one?

Yeah, right. She's the only one that gets marriage points. I just get them taken away.

You get the demerits.

I get the demerits. The demerits. As a Catholic schoolboy, I know all about demerits. When you go to one of these private schools, they do the demerit system.

I know.

I don't remember. And it's fucked up if you think about it. You get three demerits, then you get a school suspension.

It's all takeaways. There's no pluses.

Yeah, there's no pluses. You don't.

Get - No rewards, just damage.

They don't give you a, I don't know what you call, like a gold star for showing up, because I did show up a lot. But I still got kicked out. Most of the time. I still got kicked most of the time until I took a one month spring vacation, which.

The -Room spring-a.

Room spring-a, that's right.

I'm not coming back.

To this life. I was room spring-ing in someone's guest cottage out of a very fancy neighborhood here in Atlanta. I don't know, because.

Just because. Just because I felt like doing it. Because we knew everything, and it was easy to make our own decisions at that point because we already knew everything.

But I told my family members that I was in Cabo San Lucas. Perfect. I think they knew that I wasn't in Cabo.

San Lucas. Free GPS. Could you imagine if our parents had these GPS locations? Oh, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no. Oh, my gosh. I had a pager.

Our.

Teenage years would have been far less fun. They could page me. Yeah, far less fun. Far less fun. They could page me if they wanted some Jesus Christ, blotter acid, a dying bag of oregano.

Three Mitsubishi's, you say.

Hey, chocolate chips. Chocolate chips. Remember the chocolate chips? Oh, yeah.

How did we.

Survive it? I don't know. I don't know. Well, because no one is putting fentanyl in our fucking drugs. That's true. That's true. That's how when we went and got cocaine, we assumed that it was cocaine.

The drugs were way better back then.

The drugs were way better. By way better, I mean, probably way more stepped on. The weed was shit. You don't have any herpy-perppy, burple-nerples- No, that's right. -extra weedy dabs these days.

It didn't.

Have names. No, there was no name. There was no label. It was shit. That's what it was. It was brown.

Smoke it or don't.

Smoke it, get a headache, or sit there by yourself. But don't complain, please. But the LSD was good. That was good. Everything else was stepped on because we were teenagers and they saw us coming a mile away. They were like, Well, give him the baking soda for $50.

Tell them to taste it.

Yeah, that's right. It's like a placebo effect. I just felt like I was high. I am so excited you're here because I have a couple of Ask TCBs, and I'm excited that you're here because you've been a fan of the show a long time. We've been good friends a long time, so I knew there's some comfort level here. But also, I have two Ask TCBs I think are great for us to discuss, and then we'll get into some more stuff later on in the show. So let's do this. Let's take our first break of the episode and then we'll be back.

Okey-doke.

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Commercial break. All right, Anne, we're back. I'm sitting here with my longtime friend, sister I never had, Ms. Tina. Hi, Tina. How are you doing? I'm doing well. Happy to be here. Yeah, I'm really glad that you're here. I'm really glad that this all worked out as it did. Thank you. Me too. I'm sad that the circumstances upon which it is, and for those of you, I don't know how you didn't catch the first part of the episode if you're listening now, but Chrissy is out dealing with a family health emergency, and she says hello, best to you, and she will be back. But for the time being, we've got Tina here with us. So Tina, I got an Ask TCB. This is a little while ago, but I think it's perfect that you're here, and you can talk about it. As a person who has been on occasion, single over the last couple of years. Do you go on the dating apps like Christina does?

Not the apps. I've been on the dating apps, but the last few dates I've been on were not spawned by an app. They were more organic.

Like at the bar?

Like at the bar. Friend of a friend. Yeah, you got it.

I think that's so much easier. I agree. Not easier, but it's so much more comfortable.

But I mean, to be fair, I did meet a man. You met him. I dated him for almost two years. He was wonderful. First date straight off of OK Cupid, only date I ever went on off of OK Cupid, and it lasted almost two years.

Yeah, and I liked him. I thought for the moment, for the time, I thought it was a good situation. I liked him. I have family members. Like, older family members in their 60s who met people on eHarmony or Match or whatever it was, and they went on to get married.

I have two friends that are marriages from dating apps.

Yeah, I'm not saying it's all bad. It just seems difficult to navigate. There's so many of them.

It's a lot. It's overwhelming. I end up turning them off. I'll install them to try to give them a shot, but it's just too much.

It's way too much.

The system's overload.

For sure. I'm glad I'm married, because I think if I was single right now, I would just be a train wreck, if I'm being honest. Because I always met -.

It's a mess out there.

-except for Astrid, I always met somebody at a bar, a friend of a friend. I only went on three app dates, and they were all hot, disastrous. Catastrophies. I mean, one of the - Catgirl. Yeah, Catgirl. I had to get her out of a tree. Then the other one wanted to give me a hand job at the bar, and I was like, Could you not? Actually, the bartender at my favorite bar that I had been going to for years had to pull me aside and be like, Hey, dude.

You never take him.

To your bar. I know I shouldn't have done it. Here's the crazy part, as I took another app date to this same bar two weeks later. No, that's a different bar.

You keep your Watering Hall sank.

You know what the first thing the bartender said to me was? Because it's been the first time since I'd been there since the other date. You know what he said to me? What? Whatever happened to that chick you were here with that one night? No. It was getting all scrunchy. No, bartender. Oh, my God, the bartender. I could have killed him. Fucking mule. I loved him. He was my favorite bartender ever, but he really fucked it up that one time. The date was over before it even began. There was nothing else to say. That one girl, huh? Yeah, that one girl, huh? Yeah. I thought you'd never been on the dating apps.

I'm going to need another drink.

I'm going to need another drink on his tab. That's right. And your finest country fried steak. I'll take your finest drink with cherry juice in it. That's right. I'll take two of them. All right, here is your shooting your shot question, ask TCB from our good friend Jude. Can't wait. Assuming Jude is a man, that's what I'm assuming. Okay, yo, TCB, I need your advice on shooting my shot. About 10 years ago, during my senior year of high school, I developed a huge crush on a girl, a grade below me. I didn't know her, never really spoke to her, and my only interaction, my only meaningful interaction with her was passing each other in the school hallways. I don't know how that's a meaningful interaction, but okay. I didn't even know she existed until I saw her one day early in the school year. Her and I never connected, and I think I spoke about five words to her one night at a random party, but I was so off my face, I wisely decided to start the conversation before I could get myself in trouble. Smart, self-aware. Well played. There you go. Fast forward to about March of 2023, this year, and I get a follow on Instagram from the same woman.

This is a huge surprise to me as we never really knew each other back then, and we certainly know nothing about each other now. However, I think she might have a little thing for me. I need you guys to tell me if I'm being crazy. I need to know if I'm reading this situation correctly. Every time I post a selfie, she gives it a heart. Every time I post random pictures or clips of me and my friends, she makes some comment. Not necessarily flirty, but let me give you an example. I posted a picture of me and two of my buddies on the beach hanging out. She made the comment, Got room for a fourth? That does seem flirty. It's a little saucey. Yeah, that's not flirty. That's flirty.

Yeah, that's got.

Some spice in it. I think she's shooting her shot, if I'm being honest. I think she tried. She's trying. I don't even need to read the rest of this. That's it. You get that one time. If I'm single and I get that message, I am cyber stalking somebody. 100 %. Absolutely, right? The one time I posted a picture of me and my female friend, her comment was, Is this the new piece, or do you just have super hot friends? That's, again, super flirty.

That's got some flavor.

And if she doesn't know that you're not with that girl, if she's making the assumption that you might be with this girl, she says, Is that the new piece? Well, she's really shooting her shot because now she's getting in the middle of a situation.

Yes, she's engaging something that could go one of two ways quickly.

That's it. She's throwing fireballs at you, dude. Okay, on one post I made, I was on vacation in Cabo, and I made a reel from the beach. She IMed me and said, Next time, let your chick hitch a ride. Dude, what are you missing here?

You don't need to shoot your shot. She's shooting hers.

Yeah, there's nothing to be said. When I read this initially, I felt the same way. I was like, Why are you even asking the question?

Yeah, you don't have to do anything. She's already doing.

The work. Dude, if you need a lot of hand-holding here, I can't give that to you.

Just respond. Yeah, just respond. Did you try that? That's it.

It certainly feels to me like she's got an angle, but I'm afraid of going out on a limb and getting hurt. I've been liking her pictures also, but I'm too nervous to make any flirty comment. I don't even know if she's single. Looks like she is, but I don't know.

If she's not, why is she hitting on you?

Yeah, dude, either you got a catfish on your hands and a really convincing catfish on your hands, or she is definitely trying to get at you, and I don't understand what the problem is. All you have to do is I am her. I am her back. Yeah. Hey, what's up? It's been a long time.

Invite her to the beach. Yeah. She clearly is into it.

Take her down to Cabo. What girl is not into that? Here I am, all shy and excited. I've never been good at this type of interaction, and I'm really nervous to fuck up any chance that I might have. So what the fuck do I do? Am I reading the situation correctly? Is she flirting? How do I approach this set?

Take her out for a drink, just not to your bar. Take her to a different bar.

Guys, we've heard a couple of these similar type questions. Is someone flirting with me? I don't know if someone's flirting with me. I can't understand if someone's attracted to me. Here is my opinion. There is no handbook for this. There is no handbook for flirting. Some girls flip their hair. Some girls say it out loud. Some boys, you stand with their hand on their hips. I don't know. The reality is if you get a whiff of flirtation, you're likely being.

Flirted with. Yeah, if you think they're.

Flirting- They're flirting. -they're probably flirting. They're probably flirting. And especially if you're not one of those guys who has a lot of... It sounds like you don't have a huge ego about any of this. Sounds like you're very nervous and shy around the opposite sex, and you're trying to figure out, navigate whether or not this situation is open, like the door is open for you to go in. I'm telling you, dude, the door is wide fucking open and there's a dog door below it. And the window. And the window? Actually, there are no doors on this building whatsoever. You can just walk right through. Go for it. Yes, I am her. Grab your phone right now as you're listening to this episode. Grab the phone and write the following, Hey, how are you? Question mark. That's it. That's all you have to do. It's going to open up a whole can of worms for you, bro. This girl, again, is a very convincing catfish or she likes you. How she likes you from 10 years ago when you guys didn't even know each other? I don't know. But stranger things have happened. It sounds like she also thought you were cute back in high school and continued to be cute.

Or she doesn't recognize you from high school, but notices that you're friends with 44 other people she was in high school with? Because I've got some friends on social media like that. Wait, you want to- You want to what? -my high school? Yeah. Yeah, I guess we can be friends.

Yeah, you know that's true. Do you know that a lot of times I'll look at... There was this one situation where I'm on Facebook, which I almost never go on anymore. But a couple of weeks ago, I opened it up. And for years, I have been getting these posts from this girl. And I keep thinking to myself, I met her sometime as an adult in a business situation. It wasn't until I actually clicked on her page that I realized I actually went to school.

With this girl for four years. Yeah, we have 189 mutual friends.

That's right. I've made out with her multiple times in high school. I graduated with all of them. I've made out with her multiple times. We went to parties together. It wasn't until I actually put two and two together. For years, I thought this girl was some random person that I met in a business situation, and she ended up being a high school friend. This girl could not have any clue that you went to her high school, or she might know you went to her high school, but she has no ideatell you who you are. It doesn't fucking matter anymore. She's still interested. She's still interested. Maybe that's a good opening line. Hey, how are you? Still interested? How are you? Still interested?

I have room for a fourth now.

Yeah, I've got a passenger seating my car headed down to Cabo. That's a good opening line. You know what you should say? Just pour it all out there on the first message. Say, hey, how are you? By the way, back in high school, I secretly had a crush on you and followed you from school.

Don't say that. Don't say that. Don't say that.

I'm afraid people take us seriously and then they end up in a stack of trouble. I don't think this is difficult. I don't think this is a difficult one. No. You just gave us three examples of posts that you make, and they are so clearly flirtatious that you're- Quit.

Stressing out, man. Just go for it.

Yeah, you got.

To relax.

Yeah, just respond. So many times we get messages like this, and people, they don't know how to interact when they're single. And I blame the apps a little bit for this.

Yeah, they're to blame.

Because you don't have to have a lot of game in your personality. You just have to know how to type to.

People, right? And even if you have a little game in your personality like Christina talked about, I've been personality catfish, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah, you think this is going to be somebody funny with a little bit of character. A little pizzazz. And then you meet them, and it's just like flat line.

They're like a Coca-Cola that's been sitting out for two days.

That's right.

So what do you do in that situation?

You realize you're the fun one, and you move along.

I mean, in the moment, do you say, This is going to be a short date? Yeah. Yeah. And just wrap it up? Absolutely. What's the shortest.

Date you remember about? Hang on. Something just came up. I'll text you later. Oh, really? Oh, for sure.

It's like a 15-minute date? Yes.

Wow. I've had friends that got left in restaurants. He goes to the bathroom and never comes back. Yeah. I've had friends that will just get up and be like, This was really nice. Thank you so much.

You know, one time I was on a date with a girl that I met through friends, and it was a blind date-ish. We knew each other. We had similar friends in common. We had been to a few parties but never really spoken to each other. So we go on a date, afternoon date, go to a place, have a couple of drinks. We're there for two hours. We really hit it off. I think we really hit it off. Nice date, yeah. She is a musician, and she is going to go play at this bar later on in the evening, asks me to come along. But I can't because I have other plans. I say, Listen, not today. I can't, I'm sorry, but I'll be happy to come see you some other time when you're playing. Just let me know. She never responds to any message or phone call that I make after that. It's not until months later, when I learned from one of her that the reason why she has ghosted me is I didn't go see her at this concert that she was playing. Night of? And she felt like I was making an excuse.

Night of.

Yeah, that's.

Too much. If I have a date, do I have to clear the rest of my schedule off? No. Can I go on a date in the afternoon and go somewhere else at night?

Two hours is a fair enough amount of time to a lot for, especially, a first date.

If you are on a date for two hours, you assume it's going well. It's going well, correct. Right, as I did. Laught, gigles, lots of drinks, lots of stories back and forth. I think we had a lot in common, little physical touching at the end of the day. And then she doesn't call me ever again. It doesn't make sense. She's offended I didn't show up to her show. It doesn't make sense. I didn't read that one right. I didn't read that one right. But am I supposed to clear three days around my schedule because I'm going out on the date with you? It doesn't.

Make any sense. Absolutely not.

No. So, Jit, but this is a clear-cut case of your, absolutely correct, she's flirting with you. Run. Don't walk. Do it. Run to your local IM station, and I am this girl back because you're going to have a date, I promise you. Now, the question is, does she even live in the same town? Yeah, are you guys local? Yeah, are you guys local? Are you in the same town? Are there other obstacles that need to be thought about? You say you think she's single, but you don't know for sure. Maybe she.

Just wants a.

Free trip to the beach. Maybe they have an open relationship. It doesn't really matter. There's a situation here for you. But if you take the situation in total, does it make sense for you to pursue it? You're not going to know that until you actually speak with her. Respond. Yeah, respond. And then I'd ask her a few questions like, I don't know, when you walk in the high school building that you went to, do you take a left or a right to the bathrooms? Because you want to make sure she's not a catfish. It's her.

Did she use the D-Hall or the C-Hall?

Who is our 11th grade social studies teacher? You want to make sure you ask her a few questions.

What was that? Campus officers name again?

Can you imagine we're giving this guy advice and he loses $30,000 to a catfish? I don't want to be responsible. I'm not responsible for any advice I give here on this show at all, period of this sentence. Do you have guys that shoot their shot in your IM?

Never.

Never? Never. Why?

I don't know.

I thought it was all dick picks and dudes.

No, I don't get any of that.

I really don't. You don't get any of that?

No, I really don't get hit on that often. It's crazy. That can't true. It is. Really? I've been told I'm intimidating. I've got that resting bitch face. People don't want to talk.

To me. Yeah, but I think there's a lot of guys that are into.

Resting bitch face. Maybe, but they're not into me. Most of the guys I date are, I.

Pick them up. Do you want me to send you a few random dick picks from some FinSA accounts?

I mean, maybe it'll make me feel a little more included or part of this generation.

A little more. I'm going to put it on my to-do list. Everyone's in a Blue Moon. Everybody's in a to-do list. Christina's a random dick pick. Not my dick, but somebody else's dick.

No, other.

Dicks, please. There's so many of them on the internet. You could find dicks all over the place. I thought that every woman would get some -.

I've never received a random dick pic ever once.

You are kidding me.

I wish.

I was. This is very surprising to me. I don't know why it's surprising to me, but it's surprising to me. I feel like guys in this day and age are so fucking creepy. They shoot their shot with dick picks.

That every - That's a terrible way to do it, guys. Just know that. It's a terrible way to do it. It.

Yeah, do that. I mean, unless it's asked for. Unless it's like, like, I see your junk?

Junk? 100 If it's it's on that's totally different.

Different. Is that FetishLife? Fetlife, I don't even know.

What to say. I just give give.

Myself You did just give me, find Tina at fetlife. Com. This episode is sponsored in part by fetlife. Com. Are you into sharp, pointy things in your anus? Fetlife. Com.

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This leads perfectly into our topic today. Today. Got a question a couple of months ago, and I have been waiting to have you on on the to ask this question. Here it is. I'm just going to give it to you because it's short, it's sweet, and I already know it by heart, actually. Actually. Oh, Because I thought this was so weird, and I didn't really understand what was being asked until you mentioned this, and I knew that you were hep on it. The gentleman says he had been in a relationship for about four months. He had been dating a woman for about four months, but he was other kin. Kin. No. And yet to tell tell her. Met her at a bar. He had yet to explain to her that on his days off, he liked liked other kin. When he was not working, he was other other Please explain to us what other other is.

Other Other are people who feel like.

Their.

Spirit isn't human.

Like a wolf or a a Sometimes.

Sometimes magical creature, like a unicorn or a dragon. Like a unicorn? Yeah, and they think that that's their true self is not human. They're not like a furry, they don't necessarily want to dress up, but they feel like spiritually, they are a a pony, wolf.

We've done these. Yes. We've done Cat, the girl who was a cat.

That's right.

That's another kin. And a really creepy relationship with a very older man.

It's a weird thing that he's like, I guess he wanted to divulge that information to.

Your partner. I think you would. If it's such a big part of your life.

If you feel- Does he go run around? What does he think he is? Or what.

Does he believe? I think it was a wolf, is what he said.

He likes to go run around in the woods?

Yeah, run around the woods and howl at the moon and all that stuff.

I like doing that, too, sometimes. But I don't think.

I'm a wolf. No, I don't think you're a wolf either. Either. All right, I think you're more like a dolphin.

With fangs. I can't swim. Swim. I think.

You're more like a dolphin with I.

Can't swim. I can't swim.

You can't swim? I can't swim. You can't swim? I can't swim. How do I know you for 30 years and I don't know that you can't swim?

How many times have we been in a pool together? I don't know. None. I can't swim.

I don't remember a time when we were in a pool together.

Because I don't want to drown.

Holy shit. Holy shit. Shit. Yeah. Well, don't you swim? You don't like the water?

My parents put me in swimming lessons when I was young, and then I skipped them because I didn't like going, and I got caught. But the day they caught me skipping was like four weeks in. Oh, no. They made me jump off the hi-dive, and they're like, No, we're going to catch you. No one did. I just don't like being underwater now.

I was just speaking with Astrid about this. There are some parents who put their babies, brand new babies in the water.

Yeah, you can birth them into the water. Of course.

They're in liquid. They'll swim right to the top. I see the videos of them swimming, but it's so terrifying to me to do that that I would much prefer my children be able to use their arms and their legs before I actually throw them in the water.

A little bit of coordination. Yeah. Yeah, I was probably three or four, and I got left behind on the first day to swim lessons. And so they made me go sit with the babies where my kid brother was. Was. Well, I'm watching because that's my little brother, and these babies are biting each other. And one of the teachers dumps liquid soap in the baby's mouth. No. So now I don't ever want to go. I want to go watch my brother. I intentionally hid when the bus was leaving for swim lessons from my daycare to watch. They would send me into the baby room, and I would just watch watch make sure they weren't putting soap in my baby brother's mouth.

Oh, my my God!

Yep, and I don't know how to swim because somebody soaked a baby.

Do you have any desire to learn how to swim?

Robbie wants me to learn how to swim. He thinks it's a life skill.

I do agree.

Like a survival skill.

You ever heard the song from Tool, learning how to swim?

I love that reference. Yeah, I'm 44. I've survived thus far. Yeah, I get it. I don't know that if it's a survival survival I will necessarily need.

Do you go to the beach? Do you go out in.

The ocean? Yeah, I go to the.

Beach every year. You go in the ocean?

Yeah, to my- To your knees? -to my waist.

To your waist?

Yeah. Wow. I don't want to go further than that. Even if I could swim, it's it's and there's sharks and.

Stuff out there. I don't disagree with you there.

Yeah, I respect the sea.

Yeah, we went to Spain and we're out in the Mediterranean Sea on this boat. Boat. Gorgeous, yeah. And guy just plunks the anchor anchor down and like, Okay, jump in. You can see straight down to the floor. Yeah, the Mediterranean is gorgeous. Gorgeous. And can see all these.

Fish in there? I'm not getting in.

There with them. I am a lovely swimmer. I can swim. I can swim probably for for hours, I was a lifeguard at one point, but I still don't have any interest in communing with the fish. People go snorkeling, and I'm like, like, Why don't I go bother the fish, and the eels, and the sharks? I don't want to have anything to.

Do with that. They're not hanging around my house. I'm not going to hang around around their-.

But the craziest part is I would rather be... I would not rather be anywhere except for next to water. I love the water.

I just- Sure, for vacations especially.

Yeah, I just don't have any interest of jumping in that.

I'm not getting in the lake either.

Wow. Tina, I never knew this about you. Well, there you go. Look out for the commercial breaks new YouTube special, Tina learns how to swim.

It will surely be entertaining. It will.

Surely be entertaining.

I'll sauce up real good before.

The first first I'm going to call our insurance agent to see how much this one is going to cost. So, Otherkin, people whose spirits are people who feel their spirits are otherworldly or animal, not human. Not human. Just not human. Just not human. Human. So, is this whole subculture making its its.

It's like past, yeah. What you identify your gender and all that's totally different. This is your spirit itself is.

Not human. Can this also be a kink?

I mean, I.

Don't know. Like the girl who was a cat and it was a sexual fetish for the guy?

If it turns you on sexually-.

Then it's.

A kink. But But if it doesn't have a if it doesn't have a fetish nature to it or a sexual component to it for you, you just think you're a wolf and you want to go to work as a wolf, then it wouldn't be considered a kink. But it.

Can be. So it's much like the furry community, where many of them dress up for the fun of it, and because they like to pretend that they're some stuffed animal, right?

Or furries. Well, Well, the one furries that... Furries are not a kink. They call those guys furverts.

Furverts. I love.

That word so much. I do, too. Too. It's so much fun to That's awesome. Awesome. So lot of furries don't appreciate the the furverts, their community with their furversions.

I get ass. I just love it. I think it's awesome. Listen- It is awesome. -i have no bone to pick with anybody who is harmlessly having... Be whatever you want to be. You want to be a wolf? Honestly. Be a wolf. I mean, you got to get a job. But be a wolf, too. Be a wolf at work, I guess. Or maybe you could get full-time.

Employment like this. What I would suggest is just bring this stuff up in conversation. Send her a video like, Hey, have you heard of this? What's your thoughts on it? Break the ice. I wouldn't jump right in and be like, like, A, I'm But it's that way with any type of kink or anything that's, I don't know, a little abnormal.

I think it brings up a good question. When in the relationship do you announce your kink?

Are you asking me personally?

I'm asking you personally. Well, I'm asking you from your frame of reference. I don't know.

About- Yeah, so when you need someone in a kink community, then, of course, it comes out right away. Introducing it into the bedroom inside the interpersonal relationship after the relationship has been established is a little trickier.

It's a little complicated.

Yeah, especially when you like.

Weird stuff. All right, let's take a break, and then we're going to get into it. I got a video because I thought to myself, Well, what better way to learn about Otherkin than to find out the top 10 things you shouldn't do when looking for your Otherkin spirit? Okay, I can't wait. So in other words, she's going to walk us through this.

Okay, I can't wait. This is fantastic.

Me too. I love it. So let's take a short break. We'll listen to some sponsors, and then we'll be back.

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All right, right, we're back. I'm here with my good friend, friend, supporter of the commercial break, content producer of the commercial break, Tina. You've heard her name a lot here on the show. She's finally behind the microphone. First time on the microphone, too. First time. Yeah, it's going good. I like it. It. I like it. Okay, so talking about Otherkin, and Otherkin are people, humans, who think Spirit, they believe, is not human, or they identify as something something else, and could be a wolf, or a dog, or a a or- You name it. It. -unicorn whatever. -whatever. Okay, so I thought the best way to get an introduction into Otherkin is to find out what not to do when you're looking for your other kin. -otherkin. -otherkin, Otherkin. Otherkin. -otherkin-otherkin. Otherkin. -otherkin, Otherkin. So I found this video online. Let's take a listen. Without further ado, I was trolling on the internet.

-as.

You do like to do. Do. I do like to do. This young lady is going to teach us all about what not to do when looking for your your other.

All right. I'm so excited. This is actually the first time I am making a video inside my new apartment. I know that in my previous video, I was also already making some shots of my apartment and everything, but that was mainly outside, so that doesn't really count in my opinion. This is the first time I'm talking into the camera in this new apartment, and I am so stoked.

When I got my first apartment, I was really really too. I got kicked out two months later, but it was a very nice apartment apartment I.

Can feel her excitement.

I was living with a couple of of adult who had a hard time paying rent and not buying buying Before.

I start this video, I want to give a shout out to our art contest winner of the Therian territory Discord server, which is the one and only only a Tiger. Oh, look.

She's got the same sound effect that I do. We're in the same territory here, Oakleaf Tiger.

It's amazing.

Amazing. A round of Yes.

Yes, the prize of winning first place in the art contest in in Mytherian territory.

Oh, so you know, she's got some art behind her. I'm going to fast forward to this just a little bit. I think some of this may not be very relevant, but let's get to the part where she's talking about... There we are. There we are.

Hi, guys. Welcome back to Mytherian territory. You may call me Thorn. In today's video, I wanted to do something fun and at the same time, a little bit educational because I think a lot of people in the community, especially those who are new in the community, should know about this. I'm talking about the don'ts of finding if you're a a or other other kin finding out your your or kin types. As most people.

In the Alterman can- So what's what's.

I think it's just another word for other kin.

Yeah, or maybe one identifies as magical creatures and one identifies as animal creatures.

I think that might might Okay. That be more of the indication here.

Hopefully, she'll fill us in.

Yeah, maybe she'll let us know.

What if I want to be Dua Lipa for a day? What does that make me? Me?

If have been in the community for a little longer than a few few probably know that most new new and most new other kin will fall into these rabbit holes when trying to find their identities. I am basically here to tell you, don't. Try to prevent yourself from doing this because you will end up not being educated, being misinformation, or having the wrong identities.

A bit of a disclaim- Wait.

How can you have the wrong identity?

How can you have the wrong identity? Isn't that something you're feeling? Yeah. I don't know, because I don't feel like a wolf on a normal day. I feel like an asshole sometimes, but not a wolf.

It's just.

With the acid. But don't you... I thought I was a rat one time when I was tripping. It was a really weird experience. Don't you think that you walk into this already understanding?

Wouldn't you go looking because you already have some understanding?

I think so. I don't think I would stumble upon one of these videos not.

Having- You and I can't just go in there and be like, All right, what's our theory and identity?

Yeah, because-.

There's no test you can take. Take.

I'm misunderstanding. Tell me more. Get educational here.

Of course, I cannot tell you if you are alter human or not. I cannot tell you if you actually have have experiences or actual other kind experience, etc. So whatever I am saying is simply put in general. I am not talking about specifically you that you are doing something wrong or anything. I am mainly just talking about, about, maybe try to prevent doing these things because maybe it will turn out bad for you. Without any further ado, let's let's to.

The list. How could it turn out bad for me?

Yeah, I'm really confused.

Is this a dangerous group of people?

Is there a- Could you wrongfully identify as a a and then, oops, I'm really a wolf?

I can't swim.

I was flipping around one day.

Yeah, I was slipping around one day and.

A claw came out. I realized I was.

A tiger. Here I was in the water, and I found out I was a monkey who can't swim.

The first one seems quite obvious, but I keep seeing people making the same mistakes over and over over again. Not jump into the Tharion or other kin identity before having done proper research. The alter human identity, specifically the Tharion and the other kin identity, are incredible, hard concepts to to because Tharians and other kin are actually open-minded enough to see themselves as a non-human being on a non-physical level. I, for example, can can confirm-.

A little confused by this. Is this sounding a little confusing to you?

Yeah, and I'm not really sure what she's truly getting at. At. This a spirit animal animal situation Oh, my spirit animal is a bear. This is like her spirit is.

An animal. Her spirit is an an animal, and occasion, she identifies as an animal, and she also- Other human. -acts like an animal, I would imagine, on her days off.

Yeah, I'm hoping we get to see.

See. Hoping to. I'm desperately hoping.

That I identify as a pherian throw because I experience pherian throw and the big behaviors and such. I actually think I am a wolf. I actually think I am a betafish. But it's just on a a non-fish.

A beta and a wolf? Wow. Well, Well, cool, we can have multiple multiple identities.

I'm in. That's a fuck yeah for me.

I'm a wuki, I'm an oak tree, and I'm a sloth. Those three things.

Level. So don't go around telling yourself you're a pherian or other kin just because you have a favorite animal, for example. That simply isn't isn't there to be other other It's an actual identity. You actually think you are the animal or the non-human being.

Number two. Okay, I get that part. This is not not like, favorite animal is is a I like dolphins. They're really cool animals. This is, I am a dolphin.

I am a raven.

Yes, I am in my pool trying to kick myself up to the top.

Immediately assuming that your favorite being is your fairy type or your kin type. Your identity is not defined by an animal that you love so dearly, so your love for a specific animal will not determine if you're a fair in or other kin. Kin. So you are questioning if you are a fair in or other kin, don't immediately say the first animal that comes into your mind, which would be your favorite favorite animal. Your or other.

Other kin Yeah, I would think this is not one of those situations when you go, I really like koala bears. And then all of a sudden you are acting- I am one. Yeah, I am a koala bear. You're eating.

Eating you, yeah.

I'm eating eucalyptus. I've just got eucalyptus bushes.

Around the house.

Hanging from a tree. Hanging from a tree.

It's not about what animals you like. It's purely about the experiences you you the the non-human that you face, such as urges and shifts and instincts and everything. I love tigers. In fact, I am other hard, I'm Tyra Kiff. For anyone who knows what that that I love tigers with a passion. I have a very strong connection with them, too. I feel very deeply with them, and I relate to them very deeply. But I am not tiger kin. I don't identify as a tiger because I don't experience tiger behaviors, tiger urges, I know.

I'm more confused than I was when I started the video. Okay.

She hasn't told us what not to do yet.

What not to do?

Just don't pick your favorite animal.

That's what she's saying, is don't pick your favorite animal. Let's get to the don't do these things when you're trying to pick your other kid.

Discover.

Yeah. Number three, don't call yourself a tharian or other kin because you want to be or because you think it's cool. Claiming to be a non-human being, to identify as a being that that isn't is a very bold identity to take. Because think about it. What I am saying here as a a is that I am not just human. I am also a wolf. And that may sound cool to a lot of people, and a lot of people may think like, Oh, I want to have that too.

It doesn't sound cool.

No. Well, I mean, this sounds fine if you identify as a wolf, right? Cool. Then be another kin. But why.

Can't I- I don't think anyone's going to masquerade as such, nor do I think I would be offended if they wanted to. Go ahead. Do you Yeah.

Do you. It seems like we're getting a little picky or cheesy about who's in and who's out.

Yeah, it's like the furries being met at the furverts at this point.

The furverts. I love it. I want to have a furvert on the show, please.

I can find one.

For you. Okay, find me a furvert, and I want to talk to them. We can blank their face out and put a weird modulation on their voice.

No, we'll just let them come in costume.

Oh, yeah. That's a really good idea. That's what they like anyway, yeah. That's a really good idea, yes.

I want to think that I am a wolf as well. But the thing is, is, and and other is not a choice. We don't choose for these experiences to happen. Therefore, if you don't experience anything like this, if you don't have any shifts, urges, instincts, etc, you're likely just not a a or O'Kin, and that's totally okay. You should never lie to yourself about such bold identities. It's like staying your gay while you're actually not. Adding to this is number four.

And that's never happened before. Right. Come on.

Don't conclude conclude any based on self-induced shifts. Shifts can be triggered. You can basically tell yourself, I want to have a shift very badly. I'm going to do this in order to get a shift, and then I will feel more like my animal or non human being being Most shifts that Tharion and other kin experience are usually not self-induced. They just happen. They are triggered by outside factors, or they just come out of the blue and they cannot help it.

Is she saying she just randomly turns into a wolf?

Yeah, I think that's what she's trying trying to at at is that if you force a shift, it's like teen wolf. That's a a shape He couldn't help the fact that he got extra hair under his armpits. That's right.

The full moon is out.

That's it. It's over. You're in a really stressful basketball-type situation, and you're playing the big game with the team. Boom. All of a sudden, you're a were wolf. Yeah, dolphin. Oh, my God.

This is not self-induced.

Oh, man, this is too funny.

Yes, there there you.

Look, the dolphin shot the big three-pointer. Oh, it went in. Yeah.

But- I think of.

Ace Ventura. Yeah. I don't get it. I just don't get it. So if you force the shift, then you're not- It's not real. You're a poser. Yeah, you're a poser. But if you're at work and your boss tells tells I I really that report on my desk by 9:00 9:00 AM- Then you turn into a raven.

Then you're probably a theory.

Yes, and you you into a slug. Then you're probably a a However, if you force yourself into a slug-like.

Position, then.

You're lying.

You're just faking.

But when looking for your your and other identities, you shouldn't try to induce your shifts yourself because that's not reliable.

I would want to do.

It all the time. Yeah, I mean, honestly. So if... If you have a regular daytime job or you go to school, then you can't help when you turn into, I don't know, a dung beetle or whatever it is you're into. Yeah. However- Whatever you are. -whatever you are. It's not what you're into. It's what you're are. That's right. If you're into it, then you're not into it. If you are, then you're into it. Okay, got it. 10-4.

Totally confused. Are we all clear now?

Yeah, we're all clear. I mean, listen, I'm not belittling anybody who is considering themselves other other I'm having fun with it. We're trying.

To understand it, yeah.

We're the first first people to folk-hunted ourselves, so going to do it with other people, too. We're equal opportunity offenders here. But what I'm trying to understand is I know some young people who... I know a young girl, not a young girl, she's 21 years old, and she likes to wear the fox ears and the fox tail, and lots of pictures on Instagram and stuff like that. I imagine that she is identified as other kind. But I don't see her at functions turning into an actual fox.

She just turns into a squirrel and scrambles up the tree.

Oh, my gosh.

Okay, we'll keep going. Can you control the shift? Shift? Okay, not going to have.

One now? Yeah, here it comes. I'm going to control myself. Yeah. It's like a a as a seventh grader. Everybody lay down flat. Flat. Stay down. Stay Stay down. I remember I would start playing the drums with my feet.

Just throw your blanket.

Over your head. Yes, it's coming. It's so crazy. I couldn't get out of bed and walk down the hallway for two and a half hours because my morning boner wouldn't go away. Just leading me to want to pee more and more boner activity.

Based on experiences that that on purpose, basically. I'm going to get to tiger as an example because it's a good one. Say I want to be a tiger so badly and I try to induce shifts, which I could do in order to feel more like a tiger. That doesn't mean I'm tiger kin. Because your the B and other kin and other kin are not a choice, it shouldn't be a choice to shift as your thero or kin type either.

Number five would be- That part, I don't get it.

Yeah, it's a circle. She's just talking.

Yeah, it's the Frankie B of the other kin world. There you go.

Concluding that you're a theron or other kin or concluding any thero attached or kin types purely based on a deep connection, a deep love, or relating to an animal or non-human being very specifically. I have to say this this is quite within the alter human community because some believe that if your connection is so strong that you actually see yourself as the non human being, then you might as well be be or.

Other other Yeah, I would think so too.

She said the same.

Thing five times. I know. This is five times in a row she's been saying the same thing. Thing. Yeah, If you really like an animal- It doesn't mean you are one. -it doesn't mean you are one. Yeah, but if you are one, then you are one. Then you.

Are one. I am not going to deny this theory because we can never know. However, it is most commonly agreed upon that that and other other are not based on connection only. It's usually experience and maybe also connection. The connection isn't necessarily needed because as soon as you experience non-human behavior from a specific non-human being, then you can consider that Tharinthopy and other kinnerty. However, if you only have a connection to the specific animal, then it's likely that you're you're or or These are terms to describe your.

Your Oh, my God. This is so much vocabulary. Oh, my God. I am totally confused now. This is insane. I'm totally confused. I don't know what we're talking about anymore. I thought this was going to be an easy one, like tell us what to do or what not to do. But that went down a rabbit hole. I never never expected.

Not what I was expecting.

For sure. You know what this this proves? Again again and again and again? And Krissy and I talk about this all the time on the show. If you are into something, somebody is talking about it on the internet. Don't you worry, you're not alone. Don't worry, you're not alone. You're never alone. The weirdest, strangest, craziest things happen.

It's on PhETLIFE already. Don't worry.

It's on PhETLIFE, and so is Tina. Tina. Find on PhETLIFE. Okay, I don't even know what to say. Other kin, we love you. Darian, we love you. You're welcome here. Here. You don't have to actually forcethe You don't have to have the shifts yourself. You can force them. You can force them. You can still be a commercial break, listener. We're with you.

You can be the animal.

You love. Yeah. We're going to be really tolerant friends of Other kin here. Absolutely. If you like tigers, you are a tiger. You get a tiger, and you get a tiger, and you get a tiger. I don't want to get into the thick of the debate. All kin welcome here. All kin welcome here, and you certainly are. Whatever you do, as long as you're not hurting other people, fine by me. We support it. It's all good with me. Trust me, I got my own kinks. You don't want to know about them. Cream and cereal, that's all I got to say. All right, listen, we're giving big blessings out to such positive positive energy over to Chrisie, about her, pray about about and her family right now, they desperately need it. Chrisie will be back just as soon as she can. She'll check in with with us in a couple of of episodes. Check in with us on a phone call. But I'd still love you to go to the the tcbpodcast. Com. That's where you go. You find out more information about the show, all the audio, all the video right there from one location.

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