We are going matrix on, you bitches.

On this episode of the commercial break.

The final thought, Mike's parting comment was that everybody's got Steve O wrong. That Steve O's Troy, very intelligent.

Wow.

Yeah, cool. Everybody's got you wrong. You're a smart guy.

Wow. Really? The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah. Cats and kittens. Welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Green. This is the director of stunt person services. Tina. Tina, best to you.

Best to you, Brian.

Best to you out there in the podcast universe. So fucking excited because Steve O is going to be joining us shortly.

Can't even wait.

If I had told you 15 or 20 or maybe even more years ago than that, that Steve, that you and I would be sitting in a room somewhere talking to Steve O directly, would you have believed me?

I would have asked you how many drugs you were on.

You would ask me if this is another flight of fancy due to.

Way. No way I would have believed it. But here we are.

I joined a whole band based on one long night of drug use and you dropping me off the next.

That's right.

Never to be seen again. Brian went into the void, the chopper Johnson void.

I'll never forget it.

Oh, I will never forget it either. With Steve O coming in. Reminds me, I hadn't told this story when we were talking about Steve O last week when Chrissy was in here, but there was a guy that I knew at, when I worked at McDonald's, and this is before knowing you, but I worked at McDonald's when I was, like, 15 years old. For two or three years. There was one of the cooks back there, he had no teeth. I mean, seriously, no teeth. He had, like, one jagged tooth coming out. But he was the nicest guy. I'll never forget his name. Greg. Greg the grill guy. And he could make you a burger with no onions, lickety split. If you were in his favor, you were getting your food out rather quickly. And back then, McDonald's employees actually gave a shit whether or not someone was.

Remember the days.

Remember the days. And listen, I understand fast food work for no pay and dealing with shitty customers is terrible in 2023. But anyway, this guy, before Steve O and Jackass came along, he had this idea that he would do these crazy stunts on videotape. So at night they would sometimes close down. And I imagine that they were high and or drunk because he's also the first person I ever bought weed from. But anyway, I would imagine he was high or drunk, but him and this other manager they would take this big, clunky vhs recorder, video recorder, the kind that you put on your shoulder, and it was just, like, 30 pounds.

Keep it around.

Yeah. And people thought you had a spaceship on your shoulder. It was crazy. So they would take this, and they would make these small movies inside of the McDonald's late at night, like at midnight, 01:00 in the morning. And one time I got invited to be a part of this movie that they were making. It was supposed to be like an action movie at the McDonald's, and I had to jump over the counter and fall on some cardboard and all this other shit. Well, when I wasn't there, they did a movie. The manager and the grill guy did a movie together where he was supposed to jump off the McDonald's roof into a bunch of boxes, empty boxes. This was supposed to break his fall, but it did not break his fall. It broke his legs is what it did. And he ended up getting a broken ankle and a broken femur and was out for, like, I don't know, two months or something like that. And the poor guy didn't have a pot to piss. No teeth, no legs, no grill. Probably no drugs, or either really good drugs. One of the two. But for two months, we didn't see the guy.

And only after he came back did we get a chance to watch the videotape, which was gruesome, Tina. It was gruesome. Straight through the box. And then the manager runs up with the video camera and. Are you okay?

Are you okay?

And you could see him there. He's like, I think you should call an ambulance. And when now I'm thinking Steve's coming in today. I'm not going to tell him the story because it's dumb. And Steve's done things that are ten times as crazy. But I just remember that pre jackass. These guys had this idea that they were going to do these crazy stunts all by themselves, videotape it.

Our generation was totally into it. I mean, Tom Green, you think about it, it was like. It was a huge cultural movement when people were like, let's do dumb stuff. Now that we can record it and watch it back, let's do more dumb stuff.

That's it. Like the viral skate videos.

You don't like viral back then, a box of vhs tapes. And if your VCR didn't work, God forbid you didn't have a good working rewind button.

That's right. Or God forbid you didn't know how to press record on your favorite episode of whatever. Or God forbid someone or recorded over your favorite episode of whatever. But you're right about this. Like MTV, there was a whole. When MTV wasn't always as shitty as it is today.

That's right.

There was a time when I think they really had their finger on the pulse of what was going on back in the early two thousand s and Tom Green, some of the weirdest, wildest shows. Beavis and butthead. Tom Green.

Throw a skateboard at it and we're in. And we're in.

We're done.

Yeah.

We'll watch some skateboard and dinosaur Jr. Something stupid.

Yeah.

Whine at us through the radio. We're going to yum it up.

You don't like dinosaur Junior, do you?

I mean, I don't know that I'd pay to see a show today, but there was a time where I could get through a few songs. That one album was good.

Where have you been?

Yeah.

Was it the one with the paint them, the toadies?

Who else? There was a string of those. Whiny.

Yeah. They were all.

Well, it was like grunge and then the other.

Do you want to die? Do you want to die?

That's it.

Yeah. I recently saw them do that. I watched on YouTube. Them do that at a small club. They're touring, actually.

Toadies are. No.

Yes, they are. And I watch them on YouTube and I can say that their glory days are probably behind them.

Probably.

But if you.

We're still here.

Yeah, that's it. But if you get the crowd of 50 somethings to sing, do you want to die? Then you don't have to sing those rough parts.

Just sell them a $20 t shirt, let them into the concert for free. Call it a day.

$20 t shirt. If you're a toady's fan, you're paying $100 for a t shirt. They got to get from point a to point b listeners.

Do we have a toady's fan out there?

Oh, I know that there's a couple of toadies fans out there. Listen, I didn't mind that one album, but I wasn't going to go. Yeah, that one. I didn't get the second one.

No way.

But I do have a number of dinosaur junior albums because I do like dinosaurs.

At a festival, I'd see them.

That's what they're doing right now is a lot of festivals. They were at Mempho with Chrissy. Yes, and they are.

But not last year.

This year. This last year.

I didn't go this year.

No, I didn't go this year either. No, that once was fine.

That was enough. We're not trumping widespread.

No. I loved Mempho. But next time I go, I'm going to go purely as a spectator, not as someone standing at a tent. No porta potties, no yeasty beer smell. All weekend we had a good time, and we got great interviews out of it. The only problem is all you can hear is I like coconut chicken and people throwing up behind the port of bad. It was bad. We were like an extra port of.

Hey, guys.

Hey, everybody. Hey, you want to come over here? What is this? What is this? Oh, it's a podcast. You're doing a podcast? Yeah. Well, we're not doing a podcast because neither of us can be at the tent at the same time.

That's right.

But what we are doing is giving you a sticker and an opportunity to talk drunkly into a microphone. And I'll never use the audio someday when I can clean up the background of it. But I will give you an update on this while we're talking about live music. I did catch a video because I've been talking to Chrissy about the big Creed reunion tour that's going on, and Scott Stack, who I met one time at an airport, he kindly moved his guitar so my child could sit down and eat. So I ate an entire McDonald's meal before taking an international flight, sitting across from Scott Stack.

Solid play.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. And I didn't because I wouldn't gush and gosh over Scott Stapp, but because I've been talking about him, and YouTube listens to everything I do. Up appeared Scott Stapp live in somewhere, New Jersey on the 23rd, singing Creed songs with his own band. They haven't actually done the reunion yet.

Are you allowed to do that?

Yeah, sure. He wrote the song. He wrote the song. I think that's like an agreement you make about publishing rights and all that other bullshit. I wouldn't know, because I think that even if Scott sings it live and it makes money on YouTube or whatever, then the band, if they have publishing rights, might get a cut, too. I don't know how that shit works. And I can't imagine that Creed slows their publishing rights. I mean, Scott went through a pretty bad time.

He probably still just let it go.

Yeah, just let it go. But I will admit this, while I don't like their music, Scott Stabb's voice sounds really good either. He has been in with oral. I want to say oral, coach, but it's probably called a vocal.

I will go with vocal orals. That other thing we talked about the other day, that's at Fetlife. Your oral coach can be found at Frolicon.

But even though I don't like them, I'll give them props where the props are due. He sounded good. He sounded good. He sounded just like he did on the album that we heard way too many songs of. But people who like Creed, and they're going to see Creed, I think they're going to get a good version of Creed, because it's not.

That's refreshing.

Vince Neil trying desperately to sing his own songs while out of breath, eating a donut and forgetting the word.

Yes. It's really disappointing when you're excited and you finally get to go see that band.

Yes. And then it's terribly disappointing letting the.

Balloon go, or you tie the knot in it.

And the crazy thing is that Motley crue was, like, the number one revenue generating tour of 2022.

Wow.

I cannot believe. I cannot wrap my head around why, after so much publicity about the bad singing, bad vocals, backing tracks, tommy Lee's not even playing the drums. All this other stuff, I can't imagine why you would want to go spend $109 to sit in front of there.

Right?

Sit in front of them. But I guess if you're a diehard.

Fan, we did it for GNR.

Yeah, that's true. We did it for guns and Rose.

That wasn't disappointing.

No, it wasn't.

He looked bloated.

He's bloated. He's way bloated.

They sounded pretty damn good.

They sounded pretty damn good. Now he's got a different register than he did before.

And we drank enough. Probably helped.

I was so fucking sloshed during that show. I was so fucking sloshed, I left, like, two songs before it ended because I was like, I'm not going to.

Get into the bitter end. I even wore the side ponytail. Remember? I got all dressed up.

You were looking.

I rocked my 80s good. I rocked my 80s. My 80s best.

You know who's a big fan of Motley crue? Steve O.

We should have brought that up.

We should bring that up. Yeah. And, you know, Steve O would call around hotels and he would try and find. This is a story that I read on the Internet. He would try and find where Motley Crue was staying so he could hopefully hang out with them in the lobby, know, meet up with them.

Brilliant idea.

Surreptitiously. I also used to do that when bands would come to Atlanta, and I like them. I would try and call around and find the hotel. I never once got a hold of anybody except for crash test dummies. I managed to find out they were staying at the Hampton Inn or whatever it was.

That's another weird one out of the 90s. So did you hang out with.

No, I didn't even go. I was just more curious than anything about where they were staying.

Why are you guys staying at the Hampton? Because we're crashed.

And the next year I saw them at Chastain and there was maybe 50 people in the audience.

It didn't even have a name.

The song was just called I wonder whatever happened to them. Bare naked ladies and crashed testimonies. The two bands out of the Canada that came down here are now destroyed. I went on tour with bare naked ladies once. And by tour I mean we met them here in Atlanta because I happened to be at the show with two really attractive girls. Caught the eye of some roadies. Those roadies then got us backstage. We then actually hung out with the bare naked ladies and then they invited us. How do I think you were involved in this somehow? Way, shape or form?

Wasn't that 96 rocks? Big day out, like mid 90s some. We ended up on stage with squirrel nut zippers in the 99 cent.

Oh, that's right, squirrel nut zippers.

Remember them?

Yes. We've alienated anyone over the age. Anyone under the age of 30 is just gone now. They're like, I thought you guys were talking to Stevo. We are going to talk to Steve. We're getting prepped. This is the time when Steve O was like coming on the scene.

It's true.

And we were so excited about this new show, jackass, which I could only watch half the stunts one time.

Right.

And then I didn't. Yeah, I didn't want to watch it again. But you couldn't turn away, I think if you were alive. Had to look when jackass, the series was on and playing on MTV, you had to look. It was a train wreck. You had to see because everybody was going to be talking.

And here's the thing, we didn't have YouTube back then. We couldn't just go watch other idiots doing this. This was our only idiot stunt tv show, like available.

The idiot box.

That was it.

Yeah, with the television show that our parents would never allow, banned from the house. But since my dad was. What did he call it? He called blissfully unaware of what was going on in the house. I watched it every time that it came on. And because we could not press rewind and see it again.

No. Or record, really, unless you had the VCR.

That's right. Unless you had the VCR.

And it worked.

And it worked. You know, my son, one of my kids, he says, when we, astrid and I got married, they sent us the video dvd. They didn't even send it to us electronically. They sent it dvd.

Wow.

And then they sent some clips electronically. And the clips were beautiful. They put music to it. It was wonderfully. But then Asher and I looked at each other, we're like, when are we ever going to watch this? We don't have a dvd player, right? So I go to Walmart, I buy the $19 dvd player, 99 on Black Friday, I plug it in, and what I get is a seven minute truncated version of the wedding. That's all. That's all that's on there. No way. However, the toasts that were made, like the special features. The toasts that were made. No, quite frankly, the stuff that I didn't want. Come on. They gave good toasts.

They did.

But it just made me realize, wow, we probably should never watch this again. What's the fucking point?

Use it as a coaster.

Yeah. My son's using it as a Frisbee currently right now. He got uninterested. As quickly as he got interested, he was like, what's this? Why are you guys there? Where am I? Who's doing that? Why were you so fat, daddy? Son. It was a different time. It's back when I could eat a meal without getting horrible days. That's right. So we got Steve O coming up. We're very grateful that he's decided to spend some time with us. Let me give you the pertinent details before we get him on here. He's got a brand new special called Bucket List. It's available on his website. We're going to put a link to it in the show notes. Steve O's Wild Ride is a podcast and a vodcast. It's on YouTube. Quite frankly, I think you should watch the YouTube version because the visuals are fantastic. He's in a van traveling to see these celebrities, and they literally walk in the van, sit down on a couch, pet his dog, and have a great conversation. Bill Burr's a great episode of that. Corey Feldman. I'm obsessed with that episode. Don't ask me why. I'm just obsessed with it.

It's a brilliant concept. It really is.

Yeah, he does a good job on it. And so you can find that the audio version, but you can also find that on the video version on YouTube. And, yeah, that's what Steve O is doing. Right now, I think he's going to go back on tour with this bucket list. The bucket list special is all the stunts that he could not perform on jackass because the producers would not allow it.

So viewer beware.

Viewer beware. And since he's given me express permission to tell you what's in the video, there are stunts, guys, that I think Steve's going to die. It's clear that things are going wrong, but somehow Steve's on brand. It's on brand for sure. Bucket list. We watched the special. It's fantastic. So if you can get a hold of it, do let's take a short break and then we'll get Steve o in here. What do you think?

Can't wait.

Okay, we'll be right back with Steve o. You know who he is. Even if you're under the age of 30, you clearly have heard of Steve o. You clearly have clearly have heard of Steve o. So we'll be right back with Steve o.

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I'm hanging tough. I got my beautiful wendy. Good girl.

She's gorgeous. And I know she's on wild rides sometimes, too. I think that kind of disarms your guests a little bit. Like, they get to pet the dog and hang out there for a minute.

Yeah, I disarm my guests a lot, I think, and that has to do with me bringing the studio to them with the van. I think people just come out of their home, and then all of a sudden they're on camera, and it's pretty get.

It's, like, interrupted from the normal flow of activity that they walk into some publicist's room with a camera and snapshots and all that. I think you give them kind of a homey feel. I was just sharing with Steve that I watched the Bill Burr episode of Wild Ride, which is fantastic. You have to check it out. His podcast and his vodcast. But I was watching the Bill Burr episode instantaneously. Bill's like, he's so relaxed. He's like, oh, let me pet your dog for a few minutes and we'll shoot. The shit I love was, who told you you should go do a podcast? And you decided to put it into a van and ride around?

Well, being that I tour doing live comedy, it really is kind of an important piece of the puzzle to do a podcast. I recognized that, but I just hated the idea of asking that annoying question of my famous friends, like, will you be on my podcast? It was so difficult for me to come around to that, that the only way I could is if I made it convenient by bringing the. It's a lot easier to ask somebody to be on your podcast. If you say, I'll bring the studio to you whenever and wherever.

Exactly. You can roll up to their front door, basically. Let me ask you a question, because I've been dying to ask this since I heard you were coming on the show. You lived in Venezuela when you were a kid, is that correct?

It is. I don't remember it. I moved there when I was two years old, I believe, and lived there, I think, for less than two years. I left when I was four, I believe, so. I don't remember any of it. But I did definitely speak fluent Spanish in nursery school.

Have you kept that up? Have you kept the Spanish up? Oh, my gosh.

I lost Spanish and Portuguese. My first words were in Portuguese.

Here is why I ask that question and why it's so canny to me or uncanny to me. My wife is, you know, born in Venezuela, and then I chased her around the world and asked her to come to the United States with me. Now we have children, and so they're learning. All know they're learning Spanish. That's a bilingual household. And I thought that was so fascinating. How did you end up in Venezuela? I'm assuming because your family, your dad took a job there. Wasn't he like an executive for PepsiCo or something?

He was. I was born in England. My dad was working for Procter and gamble. And when I was six months old, the family moved to Brazil because dad became the president of Pepsi Cola Brazil. And I was raised by live in maid. That's why I spoke my first words in Portuguese. And then dad got a promotion to a larger territory of south and Central America, and that's why we moved to Venezuela.

It's such a beautiful country. I want to go visit, but obviously there's some things to be considered now. I think it was a different country. You and I are around the same age. It's a different country back then than it is now. So it's a little unsafe to travel to Venezuela as a gringo. But I can't wait to go because I've heard it's beautiful. I've seen so many pictures, and the people there are lovely. It's so lovely. I married Steve. And congratulations on your engagement, too. I know you got engaged about a year ago, is that right?

It's been more than that. We've been on a real marathon engagement.

Have you?

Yeah. Which is good.

It's okay. Long engagements are okay. I think they're totally fine. Do it when you're.

I mean, I'm happy to be so sure that I'm with the right woman for me. And the longer we spend engaged, the more sure I am.

Good man. Good man. Steve. How did you get the name Steve O? You have to tell this story about your brief but probably wonderful time at the University of Miami.

Yeah, there wasn't much to it. I was always drunk. My friends tended to be always drunk. Keg parties were events where I would make a point of acting out in some ridiculous way. And while I was acting out, that inspired my drunken friends to scream. And it was just born of drunk people screaming Steve O. You know, and that was really as simple as it was the origin of Steve O. So I guess you say, what's the O stand for? And the genuine answer is, nothing.

It doesn't stand for anything. It's people going, Steve.

Oh, shit.

Look at what that guy just did. Can I ask you, let me get inside your head a little bit. When do you start just recognizing that you have this really strange ability to turn off fear and do things that other people clearly have no and would not in their right mind do? Like, what prompts that kind of energy to come out? When do you start recognizing that this is something that people are paying attention to and I should kind of travel down this road?

Well, there's a kind of funny and kind of sad story from Venezuela. I think it was my first day of nursery school. I'm actually reasonably sure that it was my very first day of nursery school. My mother was canadian, and she went to pick me up from my first day of nursery school in Venezuela. And the women working at the nursery school, they. Esteban Steve is tremendous.

He's a great kid. He's lovely.

No, my mom thought that what they were saying, that I was tremendous. Tremendous, great compliment. But as my mom related this to her spanish speaking friends, they said, oh, no, tremendous doesn't mean tremendous or wonderful. Tremendous means really terrible. It was always kind of a funny anecdote in the family. But then years later, when I was watching the blackfish documentary about the orcas at Seaworld.

Yeah.

They had this lady, I believe. Can you let her out? They had this lady who was describing having witnessed the mangled body of her son who had been torn apart by an orca. She described this.

I remember this.

She said that seeing her son all torn apart by killer whale was tremendous.

Not exactly something you want to be lined up with, right?

I don't know. I have no idea what the behavior was which inspired the label of tremendo when I was two years old. But there was something going on there.

You just kind of always felt it, like it was always a part of you. Like, hey, I just have this energy, and I want to get it out in these ways.

Yeah, I would say so. There was just always something. I was six years old and jumped off of a full size refrigerator and landed on a nail and.

Holy shit.

Yeah, I was like, somewhere in my leg. I feel like it was on my shin or something, and I'd get stitches. So there is some stuntiness going on, apparently. Apparently my first attempt at walking, I somehow knocked out teeth. But you would imagine that you walk before you have teeth. But I don't know.

That's not true. Children have teeth long before they walk, or at least in my experience they do. So I think when you're walking, you do have front teeth.

At least then that checks out.

Yeah, there you go.

I went a little overboard my first try at walking, and knocked out my front teeth.

Do you have regular pain sensors, a regular pain receptor? It just doesn't register, does it?

It's not that it doesn't register because.

If I didn't register pain, it wouldn't be as entertaining. You wouldn't have the fear. Yeah.

There wouldn't be the trepidation to build the suspense or the reaction. Pay off the bit. The simple fact with me is that my desire for attention outweighs my desire for comfort, attention.

Once you start getting that attention, it's kind of addictive right now that I have something that people are giving me attention for, and I find that I'm good at it, and I just go for it now. And does that manifest itself through high school and college? And that's where people are like, Steve. Oh, shit.

I wish that that was the case, but it wasn't really working for me when I was young. I have a memory of third grade, like, eight years old. We were living in Miami, Florida, and I gathered the kids around in the cafeteria to watch me unscrew a salt shaker and just consume mass quantities of salt from it. And everybody thought it was kind of creepy. Nobody really enjoyed that.

He became misunderstood because they were like, oh, my God, what is that kid doing? And so maybe the attention at that age is a little bit different, obviously, than it is when you're starring in jackass four.

Yeah, I mean, it was not necessarily really good. I remember when I was ten years old in fifth grade, one of, or perhaps even my last baby teeth was loose, but not really loose yet. I knew that if I ripped it out too soon, there would be a lot of blood?

Yeah.

And I went into class and told this girl I was sitting next to that I could leave whenever I wanted. I didn't have to be in class that day. And she looked at me like I was a weird creep. And then when the class started, I ripped out the tooth super violently and there was all this blood. And I raised my hand to the teacher, said, go to the nurse, go to the nurse. And I got up and said to the girl, like they told you? Yeah, everybody just thought I was a creep.

We had this guy on. Go ahead.

Well, I mean, David, I handled that poorly right there. I was just going to say that there was a particularly. It pierced my heart. It's sad to say that that's the case, but I'm going to guess 2009, maybe 2010.

Okay.

I was setting about putting together my first book, which was a memoir called Steve O Professional Idiot. And my sister, being the family historian, pulled out all the files that she had compiled over the years for me to have kind of resources from my book. And in going through them, I found a report card from 6th grade, which was me when I was twelve years old. And there was a comment from my homeroom teacher, Mrs. Ayaquesa, which read Steve. So like some paraphrasing, but Steve's basically desperate for the approval and praise of his know, the affection, the approval, the praise. But everything that he does seeking this approval and praise brings about the opposite results. It was a story I was reading that as an adult in my thirty s, and it was just like, oh, I did feel the pain of that little kid, feel the pain of that little kid who wanted so desperately to be loved and tried so hard to be loved. But the way that I tried so hard just made everybody feel like I was a creep.

That really resonates with me. That worked out okay for you?

Yeah. I mean, that characterized my childhood. I believe an element of alcoholism in that like the idea of just constantly feeling uncomfortable in my skin. Yeah, alcoholics very often. It's generally accepted as a trait of alcoholism. This feeling of always being irritable, restless and discontent. And then people could sum it up by just saying, uncomfortable my own skin.

I agree with.

Very uncomfortable childhood.

I know you've been to many therapy sessions just like I have. And my Therapist will often say, that's the little boy Brian talking, right? Crying out for attention, crying out for acceptance, crying out for something. And you know what? Every time she says it to me, it fucking rips my heart out. It really does, because I know she's speaking the truth. And so, to connect with that many, many years later, you read this report card and you see this was the little boy, Steve, looking for attention. And the teacher so aptly pointed out, maybe he's not getting the kind of attention he so desperately wants, but that weird energy, right? That energy that you had turned into something that really has become who you are, it's the definition of Steve. At least to the outside world, it's the definition of Steve. Oh, and you've become a great success. You are a fucking movie star. And quite frankly, you're a legend, Tina and I, who's sitting here with me, Tina, and know we're in the age group that has squarely watched you grow up on tv, and you're just like, there's something about you, Steve, that is so real and authentic, even when you're doing things that are absolute insanity to the rest of us, we're all sitting there watching, cringing.

There's something so authentic about Steve O and your journey. Just as from watching you from the first season of Jackass to who you are today on Wild Ride, we've grown up with you. You've grown up. We've grown up. We've all become a little bit more mature. When you're doing bucket list, which is your new special that's out there, and we'll tell people how to get there, and we'll put a link on the show notes. When you're doing bucket list and you are taking it to the extreme, you clearly are scared of some of these things. Like the opening shot, I don't want to give it away because I want people to watch it. But the opening shot, Steve, it looks like you're going to lose your fucking legs. I mean, it's crazy. When you're doing that stunt, are you like, holy shit, Steve, what the fuck are you doing? Or are you just in some other. Is this is what I do? This is what I want to do.

Well, first off, there were a lot of kind words there, and thank you.

I mean it, by the way. I mean it, by the way.

Well, yeah, I appreciate it a lot, man. I really do. And I'm also not particularly precious about saying what's in my bucket list special, because I think that you can tell people. My vision was to be on a roof and have a big helicopter over me, drop a rope ladder, which I grab with my bare hands and get flown off and crashed through electrical wires and stuff like that, and let go and land on the roof of a moving tour bus. Like, you can say that to people and not really ruin ambitious guys.

When you see this special, Steve is literally hanging off a fucking helicopter, and he drops himself onto a moving rv where the landing is less than spectacular, but he pulls it off. I thought you were going to die, man. I was like, holy shit. There he goes. Steve.

Yeah. It wasn't even planned. When the bus hit me while I was on the ladder, it was very scary. And, yeah, I loved it, man. It was the most expensive stunt that I've ever put together. And it really worked. It worked well, exactly the way I wanted it to work. Actually, it even worked better. And my bucket list special is very much like that from start to finish. It's ambitious. There's the one where I get shot up with general anesthesia drugs while I'm riding.

My next question. This is my next question. Tell this story. How do you convince a fucking doctor. How do you convince a fucking doctor to put general anesthesia in you? How did you do that?

I didn't make this as clear in the special, but what we really know, I said, we spoke with a few anesthesiologists. I went on my Instagram story, and I put my story out on Instagram saying, hey, if you're a general anesthesia specialist, or maybe I said, if you're just anesthesiologist, yeah. Please reach out to my guy, Scott Randolph. And it's really remarkable how 100% of the time that I've ever asked for some random help on social media, even if it's I need drugs to be stolen from a hospital and administered while I'm riding a bicycle through a field. It wasn't on social media that the epidural stunt took shape, but, yeah, it's always worked, man. It's always worked.

You got to see the special. It's fucking fantastic. I want to move back 1 second. Steve. Do you like the world's best health insurance, or are people just know? You must see the doctor quite a bit, I would imagine, in your line of. And tell me, when's the last time, go ahead.

I'm seeing the doctor more and more, and I really don't think it's because of stunts. I think it's just the fact that I'm 49 years old.

Yeah.

Tomorrow I'm having surgery on my knee to repair a torn meniscus. And it's not from a stunt. It's just wear and tear. If anything, I think it happened while riding a bicycle and not the generally anesthesia bike ride.

Not the one where you went to sleep. Yeah.

It was from a stunt that I got the collarbone hardware put in, and it was from a stunt that I got the ankle hardware put in, and it was from a stunt that I got the skin grafts all over my body. Not all over my body, all over my arms and my back.

Yeah. I mean, you may not have had all the doctor's visits because of the stunts, but you've probably had quite a few. Is there, like, when you go to do a jackass, there must be an incredible amount of attention paid to how we're going to insure the people that are on this movie and just getting clearances to do that, all those stunts.

It wasn't until jackass three d in two thousand and ten that I first asked, hey, what happens if somebody gets really badly hurt or killed?

And the answer was, they said, oh.

Standard workman's comp laws apply.

Standard.

I'm sure there's insurance stuff, too. But, yeah, I broke my collarbone on the set of the fourth jackass movie. And, yeah, it was like workman's comp claim.

That's insane. That's insane. I would have imagined you guys would have been insuranced up in seven different ways to Sunday. But maybe the insurance, too. Yeah, of course.

Insurance, too.

What is the craziest stunt that you have done a part of on your own bucket list, jackass. Any of the series, any of the television shows. What is the craziest stunt that you did that you just would never do again? I'm just done with it. I would never attempt that again.

There are plenty of things that I wouldn't do again, but I would probably say the one with the burns, the fire angels, that was the big closing stunt, the grand finale of my second comedy special, which was called gnarly. And that one lives just for free streaming, like@steveo.com. If you want to watch that, it just starts playing right away.

Yeah, it's crazy. And you got badly hurt on that one. Burnt.

I laid down in a bed of rocket engine fuel and did snow angels while my budies lit the fuel.

Who comes up with these ideas? You specifically? Or is it like you and your friends or the production team? You all get together and you brainstorm ideas, and then you see if they're even feasible, and then what's the process?

Ideas come in different ways, and the process certainly varies. But in that case, the idea was to just blow up my living room with me in it. It was actually inspired by my relationship with my girl. At the time, it was my girlfriend, who's now my fiance, and I felt very strongly that this was a relationship that I was committed to and to look at my house at the time, it was very much the house that I kind of decorated as a bachelor, and it was my bachelor pad, and I no longer wanted it to feel like my girl was in my house. I wanted it to feel like it was our house.

Our house. Yes, totally.

So my way of making that, I said, I want to blow up the living room. I want to really screw up all the requiring us to paint over everything, and then I want my girl to kind of lead the charge in decorating it to make it feel like our house.

Tina, this shows a level of maturity. This shows a level of maturity. It really does. Self awareness and maturity, because I know a lot of guys who refuse to change a damn thing. It's my place. It's my house. I'm keeping it the way that I want it. But I knew early on that if you wanted to invite a woman to live with you or your girlfriend or whatever it happens to be, if you want to do that, they have to feel like it's their place, too. Not that just a couple of dresses are hanging in extra space in your closet. They have to feel like they're part of the game, right? Yeah, because I would want that, too. So it's just like a bit of self awareness. Look at you, Steve. You're all grown up, buddy.

Yeah, it was pretty rad. I want to blow up the living room and didn't really do a whole lot of damage to the living room.

Damage to yourself.

We made a little bit of a mess. The damage was primarily to myself, and it was just a crazy thing, man. Whenever I've gotten hurt doing stunts, thankfully, I've recovered from everything, for the most part. And the more consequential, the more hurt I got. It's always just made the stunt more notable. It's been more of a notch in my belt, so there's nothing really to regret about any of that for me. And once something epic has happened, it's happened. There's got to be a compelling reason to go and do something again.

Exactly. It's you adding to the art piece. Right. I look at your career, and you've just done so many things that are notable in my own head. And then talking to people that knew that you were coming on the show, you got to ask him about this stunt. You got to ask him about that stunt. And I think everybody feels the same way. It's like, holy shit, look at this guy's career. He's still alive. He's still walking and talking, and he has done all this stuff at his own expense for the enjoyment of the people on the other end. And probably you're getting something out of it, too, obviously. But that relationship between the audience and you, all of it's on celluloid, which is the great thing, too. What I see, I go on YouTube, and then I see somebody doing similar things for, like, ten views. Now, listen, this could be the beginning of the next Steve O, or it could just be some kid breaking his arm for a couple of views. But you really have made a pretty storied career out of this. Can you walk into an airport or into a mall or target wherever you go shopping?

Can you walk into one of those places and not be recognized? I'm sure during the pandemic, it might have been easier because of the mask. But if you don't have any mask on and you just walk in, do you get recognized enough that it becomes like, oh, shit, I got to go into target.

The mask never helps.

Oh, really?

Yeah, because as soon as I open my mouth, I get recognized over the phone. Oh, yeah, to order a pizza. Not all the time, but it's not infrequent.

Why do you talk this way? Is this just a gravelly voice, or. I think one of our intrepid researchers heard that you speak with your muscles and not with your vocal cords or something like that.

That's what I'm told.

Has it always been like that?

I don't know. I just suck at talking.

You graduated from Ringling Brothers, Barnum and Bailey clown school, but you didn't actually go to work for the circus, is that right?

I didn't work for the Ringling circus. I worked for a circus called the Hannaford family Circus, and I worked as a clown on Royal Caribbean cruise lines.

Oh, my God, you're kidding me.

Nope.

So you're on these Royal Caribbean cruises. Are you testing some of these ideas that you have for doing crazy stunts, or are you just taking it like it's a job? I go out, I do my clown show, and then I call it a filmed.

I filmed crazy stunts on the cruise ships. And the. The line between what I did in my professional role on the cruise ships versus what I was doing as extracurricular for my aspirations and my video camera. That line got a little bit blurry. Certainly got blurry, but, yeah.

When you were filming these, is this what eventually became, like, the tapes that you were trying to get into, big brother, or was this pre or post?

I was already in big Brother when I got the cruise ship job. It was before going on to the cruise ship that the big brother boob video came out. So, yeah, that was all happening. But there were certain things, like, one of the clowns I worked with while we were in the office typing up our weekly report.

One of the clown report on Royal.

Caribbean, the job that we had, it was called interactive performers. And the different things that we did, it was kind of an experimental thing. Like, we were the first to have this job. So the company wanted a weekly report of what we did.

Okay, got you.

We were typing up our report, and this clown that I worked with just grabbed the stapler off the desk and just whacked himself with it. And sure enough, he had a staple in his arm. And I thought, wow, that's the coolest.

Thing I've ever seen.

And we got paid in cash on the cruise ship, like, every other week. Every two weeks, we got paid, and we made, like, $600 a week. So it was more than $1,000.

Wow.

That we got paid every two weeks in cash, and it was all $100 bills.

Holy shit.

The next time we got paid with my friend's blessing, I was like, man, do you mind if I take this staple thing? And I filmed a bit called the $1,000 man, where I stapled ten $100 bills across my arms and my chest, and I called myself the $1,000 man.

Did you do this in front of people? How was it received on the Royal Caribbean cross? I'm trying to imagine Steve O stiffling hundreds to himself.

We did it in the same office.

Got you. I've had friends who've entertained on cruise ship like they were, you know, one guy did a piano and the other girl did a guitar or whatever. What was it like living on a cruise ship? How long did you do that job for?

I lasted for six months. I had a six month contract. And the other clowns, we were a troop of four clowns on this one ship, and all three of the other clowns went to the cruise ship brass and said, if Steve O comes back for another contract, we all quit.

Probably some of the guests.

There was a clown mutiny. They said, if Steve o comes back, we all. So my boss clown, when I saw my boss clown, who wasn't part of my troop, he was like, man, these fucking clowns went behind your back, and they made it. So you're not coming back for another contract. It's not in the cards. You're not coming back? Definitely not. And they don't have the balls to tell you that. I don't want them to do you like that. He said, I'm telling you, this job is going away. You do not have this job at the end of your contract. So I'm telling you to call up your skateboard buddies and try and drum up another gig. And he said, if I let it be known that he told me that, that he would lose his job. So I had to keep it a secret, and I had to work with these fucking clowns for another, like, it was like another two months. It was another two months. And we were training for the launch, the maiden voyage of the world's largest cruise ship. There were all these routines, these scripts and stuff that I had to learn with these other clowns, knowing that I would never perform them.

And that the other clowns had stabbed you in the.

Back and they couldn't know that I knew.

Yeah. Because it was all hush hush.

Yeah. And I pulled it off. I pulled it off, and I reached out to big brother and I was like, yo, I got this idea because I'd been walking on stilts on the cruise ships and always terrified.

That sounds terribly dangerous. It's like you fall off the edge.

Yeah. It wasn't even about falling off the edge of the ship, but it was just falling in general.

Yeah. Because the ship's moving. Yeah.

So, because it was kind of front of my mind, and I thought, man, I got to do it. So I'm going to tip myself over on stilts. And I was like, but I got to make it big and rad. So I called up Jeff Tremaine. I was like, I'm going to have a stilt costume, which will be lit on fire while my stilt costume is on fire. I'm going to have a unicyclist ride a unicycle through my stilts while a skateboarder jumps off the roof of a house, over my head and through a fireball that I'm blowing out of my mouth. So the photo will be the skateboarder going through the fireball that I'm blowing out of my mouth while the unicyclist rides through. I'm on fire. And then when those two guys ride away, then I'm going to crack open a beer and pound it while I tip myself over. And then when I hit the ground, I need to be extinguished. And I wanted that to be the COVID of Big Brother magazine.

Wow.

Tremaine liked the idea, and I walked off the cruise ship with, like, $9,000 in cash. Which was not clever of me to have been stashing all that cash in my cabin on the cruise ship.

Especially not with those fucking backstabby clowns.

Maybe I put some of it in the bank. I don't know. But there was a bunch of cash that I had. And I flew myself back and forth to California to do big stunts to try to get noticed. And when I got out to California with the fire stunt that's when I met Knoxville. Tremaine waited until I was out there. And he was, hey, dude. Like now that you're out here. I can tell you this isn't just for the magazine. We're doing this for a pilot.

Jeez.

And yeah. I did that fire stunt for the pilot. It didn't make the COVID But the photo was the table of contents. The whole page.

Yeah.

We got a cool photo out of that kind of. The rest is history. And had those clowns. And you know what? I do owe it to those clowns for me to. I can't provide history.

Fair enough.

Reality is. The truth is I gave those clowns every reason to. I was very disrespectful of those clowns. I did not think they were fucking rad. I didn't think they had any skills that I admired. I didn't think that their stupid shit that they were trying to come up with was funny or rad. I just didn't think anything that they did was awesome at all. And as such I had no respect for them. And I behaved very much with disdain. I mean. Not disdain. I didn't have time for them.

Yeah.

You were like, whatever you guys want to do. And I would just have my headphones on practicing my juggling and just. I ignored them. And I was disrespectful. And so they had every reason to do what they did. And thank God they did what they did. Because if I kept that job for another contract.

You wouldn't have been jackass.

Yeah. There goes the jackass pilot. There goes the whole thing.

Steve. Name one of those clowns who made a billion dollars at the box office. I think everything turned out okay.

I don't think Jack has made any billion dollars.

No. I'm talking about all of it. Guys. Do you think you've made a billion dollars on all four movies? No. Well, that's a damn shame. You should have made a billion dollars.

I think we probably cracked a half a billion. But all four movies put together. Definitely not a billion. Honestly.

Anything over $10,000 sounds rich to me.

That's right.

Good. If you can please touch on one thing, true or not true, you did blow with Mike Tyson.

Oh, yeah. A bunch of it for hours.

Were you not at all intimidated? Do you know him? You guys had, like, a previous relationship, and then you hung out one night and somebody had some blow.

Pretty sure it was the first time we ever met and I had a bunch of cocaine and we locked ourselves in a bathroom for probably 3 hours until we had consumed it all.

Wow. And what is the conversation like with Mike Tyson when everyone's hot? Are you guys, like, really? Listen, I've done quite a bit of blow myself, and I know what those conversations can be know hours long, meandering. We're talking about saving the world, and then you wake up in the morning and all you want is a beer and to go back to bed. But what do you guys talk about? Do you remember any of it? I mean, you don't share anything super.

Personal, but for mean, I think that the final thought, Mike's parting comment was that everybody's got Steve O wrong. That Steve O is actually very.

Wow.

Yeah.

Who?

Everybody's got you wrong. You're a smart guy.

Wow. Really? To have Mike Tyson say that to you, I'd just be a little nervous. I mean, listen, I don't know Mike Tyson, and he seems like a perfectly lovely. He's. He also has matured. And you listen to him sometimes and you're like, wow, Mike Tyson really got his shit together. Like, he knows what he's talking about. He's almost like a philosopher in some ways. Right? But I don't know, just me personally being stuck in a bathroom with Mike Tyson doing blow, I'd be like, oh, I hope this doesn't go the wrong way. I hope he also thinks I'm intelligent so I don't get hit. Steve, I got to tell you, and I know I shared a little bit earlier on in the conversation, but I see Tina has been a friend of mine for 30 plus years, and we've been big fans since you guys came on air. And I have to say that I feel like our life path have gone similar directions. And it's just such a pleasure to talk to you and know that the authenticity that we kind of felt through the screen is really there. You're a really cool guy, and I'm so grateful that you came on the show.

Well, thanks, man. I appreciate know for you to know about the stilt stunt for big brother. That's going deep, man. That was a long time ago, and it's pretty rad, dude.

If I'm going to have Steve o on, I'm going to ask questions that I sincerely want answers to, not ones that I already have answers. You know, we do our homework. We don't want to sound like total idiots once we get on here.

I love it, man. I love it. I appreciate it. And yeah, man, sounds like you checked out my bucket list special.

We did. And we're going to encourage our listeners to do so. Also, Steve O, podcaster, stunt maker, philosopher, engaged for a long time guy and doesn't matter because he'll do it when he's ready. And I'd like to consider you a friend of the commercial break now, too. Will you come back on sometime, Steve?

Sure, man. I love it. Where does this live?

It's in Atlanta. Oh, it lives on YouTube. But really where the audience is, is on the podcast on the audio version. So of course we'll send you a link. We'll get in touch with you and send all the information and come back on sometime. We love you. Best to you. Thanks, Steve.

Hey, man, thank you. Appreciate you guys.

No problem. Glad to have you. Thanks, Steve.

Yeah, dude, let's cut to the chase. We love you and we want to hear your sweet angelic voices asking us for advice. So give us a call and leave us a voicemail at six two six. Ask TCb three if you're not ready for that kind of commitment, which I understand, send us a text instead at eight five five. TCB 8383. And as always, don't forget to follow us on Instagram at the commercial break and on TikTok at TCbpodcast. And this wouldn't be a TCB promo if I didn't tell you to go to our YouTube channel, YouTube.com thecommercial break to watch all of our amazing video edits. You can also go to tcbpodcast.com to find everything we have ever put on the website. Let's listen to some sponsors and then we are back on track, baby. Love you. Bye.

Oh my gosh, what a fun time with Steve. He couldn't have been more gracious.

Absolutely fantastic.

I am still tripping over that story about Mike Tyson and doing blow for 5 hours with Mike Tyson.

I can't believe he said locked in the bathroom.

Locked in the bathroom with. And listen, I've seen reiterate this. I've seen lots of recent video. We've all seen Mike Tyson since his heyday as a crazy and crazy talented boxer. He would destroy human beings and everybody was afraid of him. But he seems like he's gotten some self awareness and some perspective on life. He's almost like a philosopher now.

Super chill.

A philosopher with a really weird voice, but a philosopher nonetheless. Doesn't he raise pigeons? I think he does. I think he's a pigeon raiser.

Wouldn't surprise me.

It doesn't surprise me either. It's like, the biggest example of brute force in our lifetime. Mike Tyson absolutely is like, petting pigeons. He did this whole documentary about petting pigeons or something. It was really fascinating. But then when Steve says, the clowns voted me off the island, like, the clowns stabbed me in the back, I just. Too much shit.

And then he said, the boss clown.

Oh, yeah, the boss clown.

I'm just imagining.

And how do you not get hired on the circus that paid you to trade?

Outrageous circus.

It's outrageous.

Only Steve.

But I like. Here's what I like about Steve, and I'm trying to convey the message I hope I did appropriately. Steve also has some perspective now in his later life. I think now that he's sobered up and he's probably been to more therapy meetings than we'll ever go to in our entire life, he's just got some self awareness, and there's not a bit, not an air of anything about him. He came on super authentic.

So genuine. Yeah. Very humble.

Yeah, I liked it a lot. I'm really grateful that Steve decided to come on.

I hope we get him back one day.

We will get him back. I have a feeling he'll come back. And Chrissy's not here. But if you had told Chrissy and I at the beginning of this crazy adventure, or even a month ago, that Steve O would agree to come on the commercial break, we probably would have laughed you out of the room.

Yes.

Because this is the most mediocre comedy podcast available. I have a feeling none of Steve's people listen to the show before they agreed to come on, but we're so grateful that he did decide to come on. Yeah. So all the pertinent details are available inside of the show notes. Let me remind you. Go check out his special hilarious, pay a few bucks. Go watch it. It's not money wasted. If you're a fan of anything jackass or Steve O, you're going to love this. Also, check out his podcast, Wild Ride. It's good. And he's got some real big time celebrities that walk in the door. I was watching the Johnny Knoxville one. I was watching the Johnny Knoxville one. Yeah. Can I hear you? No. Why can't I hear you. What happened to you? I don't know. All right. Gina went away. Oh, there you are. I don't know what happened there, but let me give you the pertinent details for this show. Tcbpodcast.com. As Christina says, go there for everything that we've ever put on the website. You can also dial us up at 1626. Ask TCB the number three. That's six. Two six. Ask TCB, the number three.

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Poor astrid.

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Steve O's gotta be one of my favorite.

He's incredible. He is. Now, that's for sure. In all of my celebrity interactions, I will tell you that I've had two in the last three weeks. Heather McCann, heather mcMahon, excuse me. And steve o.

They fantastic.

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I love you.

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Best to you brother.

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