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On this episode of the Commercial Break. I read, and you tell me if this is true, that you are a bit of a Disney adult, too. Do you like to go to Disney World?

It's funny. I definitely am. Every time and then, I meet a real Disney adult, and I'm like, Well, I guess I'm not.

The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now. Yeah, Caps and Kittens. Welcome back to the Commercial Break. I'm Brian Green. This is my emotional support host, Kristen Joyhold. Best to you, Chris. Best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. It's a T-CV Infomercial Day with Mr. None Other. Mr. Podcast America, Paul Sheer is here, folks.

Where's the clapping? I don't know.

The clapping sound. I don't know. Don't ask me to get complicated. Are you asking me to put in a clapping sound? I don't know.

There we go.

Yes. Love me some Paul Sheer.

God, I have been such a fan for a long time. It's just amazing these guests that we're getting to interview with. I would never in a million years think they would want to talk to No.

I expected the interview part of the show would go like this. When we decided, Okay, let's jump back in and see if we can do some interviews with people we might actually be interested in talking to. No offense to anybody. Jeff was a great guest. Rachel was a great guest. But no offense to anybody that was on the show previous to our moratorium on guesting. But as we decided to roll into guesting, I thought it would go a little bit like this. We would get mostly comics or musicians who were just on beginning their journey. Just starting out. Just brand new. Right. And what we got or what we're getting is the exact opposite. We're getting some heavy hitters. Paul Sheer, of course, of How Did This Get Made? Fame. He's got a podcast called Un-Spool.

He was in the League. He was in the League. One of my favorite shows of all time, really.

He's in Big City Greens.

So many things.

He's got 400 credits to his name on IMDb, and that is not a person who is lazy. I will tell you that much right now. He's like Felicia Day. He's got so many things that he's done. Now he's got a new book, which is Joyful Recollections of Trauma. You could pre-order that. We'll put the link in there. But before we get to Paul, I just wanted to share a little... I wanted to ask a question. I know you don't keep up with Kanye. No. But he's all over the place, and it's hard to ignore sometimes some of the shenanigans that are going on around him. I do remember who... It was Pete Davidson that was sharing when I went and saw him at that special concert of that dive and fucking Bumblefuck, Georgia. I don't know.

Who did we have on? As a side note to that, we had somebody on that we were interviewing. They were talking about the places that they had gone to to do shows.

Oh, it was Preacher. Preacher, which hasn't aird yet, but Preacher Lawson was on, and he was sharing that, Yeah, they're all okay. He's like, Another one we're great.

Yeah, it made me want to bring up your hair. I He had to be like, Who booked this?

But he did say that on stage. I know. He literally said that on stage. He's like, This is the diviest dive I've ever been to. I don't want to slam the guy who owns the place, guys or girls who own the place, but it was not a very nice place. But anyway, that's neither here nor there.

Pete was talking about Kanye.

Yeah, Pete was talking about Kanye, and he said, Kanye is just fucking with everybody at this point because he's bored. He's done it all. He's seen it all. Everybody is against him, and he's just poking the bear, essentially, is what he's doing to have some fun and have a giggle. But he is now married to this woman, Bianca Sansori, and she has been showing up around the world in some outfits that you can only describe as unfits because they are nothing. It is nothing. She is wearing not a fucking thing. See through this, sheer that, topless this, pantyless that, which is fine. Do your thing. I ain't mad at you. I'm not mad at the naked girl. I'm just not mad at the naked girl. Never going to be mad at the naked girl. But I read this article, and it got me all out of sorts. Okay. Kanye West pulls down wife Bianca Sensori's low-slung neon tights walking into Cheesecake Factory. What? Cheesecake Factory? Really? That's where Kanye is going? Is Cheesecake Factory? The guy has more money than God. First of all, how do you even go to a Cheesecake Factory when you're Bianca and Kanye?

I don't know. Second of all, why would you want to go to a Cheesecake Factory if you're Kanye and Bianca? I don't know. There are so many great restaurants. Cheesecake Factory, fine. It's fine. It is a food haul. That's what it is. They shove them in, they push them out. That's what they do. They're always packed. Why? Not really sure. They got 750 items on the menu.

It's huge. It's like a book for their menu. It is a book. I haven't been in years.

I haven't either. Probably right before the pandemic, I think my mother-in-law was in town, and we all went to the cheesecake factory because we had young children at the time, and I thought, well- They do have some good cheesecake. Everybody else is screaming, so I might as well bring my kid there, too. They do have some good cheesecake. You're right about that. Hence the name Cheesecake Factory. But what they also have is spaghetti and meatballs, hamburgers, pizzas, tacos, meatloaf. Asian dishes.

Asian dishes. Yeah, it's everything.

Pot stickers, full Huggies. They have everything you could ever want in that place, and all of it is fine. It's just fine. You know what I'm saying? It is such a weird place to expect Bianca and Kanye to show up. But there's one thing I know about a cheesecake factory. It is not where you typically go to watch the big game on a Friday night, right? It's not like an adult sports bar. It is a family-oriented place for sure. Mostly family's in there. Yeah.

And he pulled down her pants.

He pulled down. Look at this. Just look at this. I just want to show you this skimpy outfit that she was seen wearing.

Yeah.

Look, he pulled her pants down halfway down her butt. She's wearing a sheer top, and then she's wearing sheer leggings, bright green leggings, with no underwear on under it. That's how you're showing up to Cheesecake Factory. That's not how you show up to Cheesecake Factory. That's how show up to a red carpet, or you show up to an adult club, or you show up somewhere in Italy like they were for months and months or months or whatever. This is hard for me to swallow. I'm sorry. Leave the Cheesecake Factory to us, Kanye. Go to somewhere in the Pocanos or something. I don't know, wherever rich people congregate. I ain't mad at you about all the money. I just don't think you should be showing up to the Cheesecake Factory in such a state of undressed. That's my personal opinion. I'm not mad at a naked girl, but there are some places where I where I expect not to see them. Cheesecake Factory is definitely at the top of that list.

Where was this Cheesecake Factory? What's that? Where was it?

Somewhere in LA.

Oh, okay.

But even the Cheesecake Factory in LA, it's still a Cheesecake Factory. It doesn't matter where you put the Cheesecake Factory, it's still a Cheesecake Factory. You know what I'm saying? This episode is sponsored in part by Cheesecake Factory. We are fine. Everything's fine. Everything's just fine. We're fine. All 600 items will come out just fine. Okay, today, ladies and gentlemen, I present to you Paul Sheer. We present to you Paul Sheer. Yes, he's coming on TCB. Why? We do not know. Because he was just named by iHeart at the South by Southwest Podcast Awards. Just named the top podcaster in the TV/film category. Two years ago, he was named the top podcaster in the comedy category altogether. We have a lot to talk to him about as far as the podcast is concerned. But more importantly, More importantly, there are many places where you don't expect to see Kanye West and Bianca. That would be the Cheesecake Factory. There are many other places you don't expect to see Paul Sheer. That would be the commercial break. But unbelievably, he showed up. For what reason? I do not know. But I love it. I'm all about it.

I love it, too. Let's see how it goes.

I think I first saw Paul on Best Week Ever. Remember Best Week Ever, VH1? He did like 100 or so of those episodes. That's right.

He did do those.

He did them with Who was the other guy? Not nick Kroll. I can't remember, but there was a mainstay. It was him and Paul Sheer were the mainstays of the show, commenting on pop culture and music and stuff like that on VH1. It was on years ago. I think they stopped doing it in the I don't know, early 2010s or something like that.

They've replaced it now with Cheaters.

Yeah, they've replaced it with the reruns of Cheaters and the little- Much runer's the best week ever. The Little Women of Atlanta or whatever. I mean, come on, VH1. You used to be a great channel. I'm not knocking the Little Women of Atlanta. I'm sure it's a fine show, but it belongs on TLC, Lifetime, Bravo, one of those places where those shows are often shown. It's like a big mix. Vh1 used to have a good solid core of television shows. Then softer rock, if you would say, the softer side of music is what they would play from MTV. Mtv was the cutting edge hardcore for the young 18 to 25s or 13 to 25s. Then VH1, you matured into VH1. When you turned 30, you started watching more VH1. You were like, I don't know about that, Carson Daily anymore. But Best Week Ever is a great show. It is. They used to have some reality shows like Rock of Love. Oh, Rock of Love. You remember? Oh, Daisy of Love. We talked about Daisy of Love one time, one episode. But my point is that Paul has been around for a very long time.

He's done a ton of things. He's now doing voicing cartoons. He's got new shows that are coming out. He was in the League, one of the better shows that's been on television during the... What are we calling it? Prestige TV era, I guess, is what we're calling it. He's now got a new book. That's what's most important to know. This is the promo part of the intro, just to let you know that out there. I'm breaking down the fourth wall on the podcast. It's important for you to know that Paul is not coming on here for his good health. He's coming on here because he's got a book. I can't wait to take a listen to it because I'm going to do audiobooks. It's called Joyful Recollections of Trauma. You can pre order it now. Links in the show notes, go to his website, paulsheer. Com. Follow him on social media, all that good stuff. Okay, Christie, so I'm going to ask you, what do you think we take a break? What do you say we take a break?

What do you say? What do you say? I say yay.

You say yay?

I say yay, not ney.

Not ney? No neys. All yays here at the Commercial Break, we have Judge, jury, and executioner. It's all coming together. We're going to take a break. We're going to find a way to technically pull in Paul Sheer here into the studio.

Via hologram.

Via hologram. That's the only way we can do it. It's like Star Trek. We're beaming him up, beaming him down. Because let's be honest, we have no fucking clue how any of this works. The cloud. We just give him a link and we hope he shows up. It's the cloud. Yeah, it's the cloud. It's all in the cloud. Cloud, what's that? We'll take a break. We'll be back with Paul. Stay tuned.

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And he's here with us now. Paul, thank you very much for coming on the Commercial Break.

I am very excited to be on the Commercial Break. The Commercial Break, while a great name, also one of my favorite things that I feel like I miss in this era of streaming. I miss my commercials. My kid, as a matter of fact, loves commercials. So does mine. How old is your kid? My kid is seven.

Okay, so my kid is five. Okay. Ever since he was two years old, he started looking at Geiko commercials, Progressive, Limo, Emu, all that stuff. And now sometimes when he wants to watch his iPad, he gets iPad time, he says, Daddy, can you put on the Geiko commercial? What he means is he wants a compilation video of all the Geiko commercials. This is...

Commercials are the original TikTok.

That's true.

When you think about it. And they're into it. Yeah, no, my son wanted to watch the Super Bowl for the commercials. And I know a A lot of people do that, but it's also like that was... He was like, Oh, commercials are on. Now everyone shut up.

Yes. You know the other thing that I think about because you and I are the same age. Christie's around the same age. We grew up in a time of such great commercials It was like great kid commercials. They didn't have a lot of laws. They got the backyards.

Yeah. Who are the rocks and the streams for your GI Joes and your He-Man figures? I mean, come on. That was a dream.

Now they have all these laws and you can't advertise tobacco to kids. All these bullshit laws. By the way, my favorite thing as a child was the candy gum cigarettes.

They had a little bit of sugar dust. Oh, me too. Were you blowing it? Me too. Yeah, that was a puff.

I know. I can't believe they were selling that.

That's crazy that you just reminded me of that. They sold those.

It was such a different thought. It was so crazy that that was the thing. I did this documentary for Disney Plus about failed comic books that they put out. I was having this conversation. They wouldn't allow me to put it into the documentary, but they also didn't say I couldn't say it here, which was at one point, Camel Cigarettes approached Marvel, and they were like, We have an idea for a great comic book, Joe Camel, like James Bond, Joe Camel. And they were like, okay, all right. And it apparently went up the ladder a little bit. And somebody was like, no, no, no.

.

I could do that. And they're like, oh, yeah, we can't do Joe Campbell, James Bond.

Did you ever smoke? Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

No, I'm not really a smoker. It was so taboo in my house. My grandfather was a smoker. And because he was and no one wanted him to be, it was just viewed as smoking is bad. It was always viewed as smoking is bad, so I never got the bug.

My entire family smoked in the house for a long time. That was just the thing. I grew up in Chicago. I went to Catholic school just like you did. Everybody smoked. I mean, the priest would come over for dinner on Sunday. Oh, brothers smoked? Oh, yeah. It was all over the place. But the Camelites had that for a time period. They had the camel points. So you would rip off the side of the carton and you would collect these camel points, and then they would give you cool things. There was a period of time, I think in the early '90s, when Joe Camel was a thing. He had sunglasses, he was wearing leather jackets. You could get that leather jacket, you could get those sunglasses. I mean, this is what the kids are missing out on today is I mean, one of my good friends. Terminal disease.

One of my good friends was a buyer for Marl, and Marble had those Marble points, just like camel points. She would go and find really nice things like, Oh, you want the best kayak? Well, Marlborough will have the best kayak if you give us 45,000 Marlborough points. I remember one of the first gigs I ever got was a job where it was a audio adventure paid for by Marl that was like It was like a head that if you talked into the left ear, you would hear it in the left ear, and you talked to the right ear. It was like a sensory journey through camping with your friends. Wow. Sponsored by the good folks at Marble.

And along this beautiful stream, three children smoking Marble unfiltered. I have a question for you. Sure. This is a very important question. Christie and I have been mulling it over for the last couple of episodes, do you or do you not make your bed? Are you a maker of the bed or are you not a maker of the bed?

No, I'm an active not maker of the bed. My wife is a maker of the bed. And look, there are many things that I take pride in as far as household things. I clean a dish, I use a dishwasher, I wipe down a counter. I do a lot of housework. I like a housework. Good for you. But a bedmaker is not for me. I'm like, I get in and get out. What do I need to make this bed for?

Well, apparently that's the help. That's the thing to do because it kill the sunlight, kills the dust mit.

But your wife makes the bed. So the bed is made. It's just not you that makes it. Or does she make it on occasion? Yes. Okay.

So the bed is made. No, she makes it. Yeah, she likes it. When I was first, when I was younger and I lived in studio apartments, or I had my room where my bed was in it, I would make my bed because it's like, well, that's my world. That's your space. But a lot of the times, yeah, now I leave my bedroom and I don't really go back to my bedroom. It's it, I'm gone. Plus, I have two kids. I'm making a bed. It's like I'm making lunches and packing waters and backpacks. I have to go back to school today because my kid forgot his backpack.

The old forgetting something. The old forgetting the water bottle. My kid's in preschool and she forgot her water bottle one time. I literally had to take a 38-minute journey to go bring her a water bottle to find out they have water bottles at What does she could have? She just needed the pink one that she had. She was throwing a holy shit.

My school is a Yeti bottle depository. It literally has a lost and found. And honestly, I'm going to go in there and I'm going to take some of those lost and found bottles every now and then. I'm like, Hey, we can't afford all these Yetis. I'll grab a Yeti and my kid will eventually lose it again. But it's fine. It's like, give and go.

Exactly. At the end of the year, they give the- Recycle. All of the lost and found stuff. They'll throw it out front after the whatever they call it, last day parade or whatever. And last day parade, kids are gone. And they put the big lost and found bucket out there. You can either find it or you can take it. That's just the rule. When it's not staying here, so take it. And last year, there were lots of really nice children's cups in there. And I thought to myself, I should take this cup. But then I also thought to myself, I'm already consistently... Everyone is already consistently ill at this house. Do I really need another fucking germ running around this house?

Well, I mean, look, you can always wash them. That's what I do. I'm washing them.

What? You don't make your bed, but you wash the cup. What crazy man are you?

Oh, you got to wash the cups. That's what I'm saying. I'm a half and a half person.

You play a little bit of a role in my kid's life, too, because you are on Big City Greens, which my son- Chip Witzler. Yes, you are. And my son is going through quite the Big City Greens phase, and he likes Chip a lot. I was like, Oh, I'm going to talk to Chip today.

Yeah, well, Chip Witzler has been really interesting interesting because I love those guys who do Big City Greens. They're great.

That's so funny, actually.

Yeah, the whole crew. It's a very interesting kids cartoon because it's, broadly, not adult, but it's the best kids cartoon, the best animated shows, I should say. It is elevated, and it works on both levels. My character, especially, is a straight-up villain. Most of these shows, you have to have something redeeming like, Oh, he has a love of music. Oh, he's misunderstood. But my character is a straight-up bastard. They make videos about... I can't take credit for any of it because it truly is that amazing team behind Big City Greens. They really are such a collaborative bunch. But yeah, they let me do some insane things. I'm like, Really? I can go attack their house with a machine gun? Okay, sure.

I love that Big City Greens and Bluey. I know you've seen Bluey, right? I love Bluey.

Bluey is, to me, that Rob Delaney's Sharon Horgan show, Just for Kids. Yeah, absolutely. I forgot what that was called.

But the thing about Bluey is, and this is the honest to God truth. I got a therapy session one time. I got this Bluey book. The Bluey book was about the episode where he camps. So Or she camps. Bluey finds a friend that's French while she's camping with her family. They don't speak each other's language, but they develop a friendship over the course of three days. On the fourth day, Bluey's friend leaves but doesn't have a chance to say goodbye. So Bluey is upset. His mom explains he's left. But during the time together, they planted a tree, and then they shows the tree growing, and the mom says something along the lines of, Sometimes people come in and out of your life, but the tree you planted, it sprouts beautifully. It made me fucking weep like a child. Now, I just read that Bluey has 20 billion hours streamed or something like that. Big City Greens and Bluey is a new take on Cartoons, where I think of the the artists and the writers, they understand that the parents also have to watch these, too. So let's make it fucking interesting. Like, your character talks about whatever it is, the wholeness grocery store is coming next door.

The kids don't know what that means, but I know who they're slaying, right?

I know who you're slaying. Exactly. You know that we're taking on Whole Foods. Yeah, no, I think it's really interesting this middle ground, because I feel like for a long time, children's programming was made by adults for children, and now these children have grown up and they're making shows for themselves. They grew up... It's a different mentality. I don't know. I can probably explain it better than that. But it's just I do think that you have people that... I don't know.

I get what you're saying.

They show a weight to it. Yeah, there's a weight. They understand. I remember when I did Yo Gabba Gabba, they said to me, I watch so much Sesame Street. I wanted to stab my eyes up because it's great for my kids, but I'm bored to tears. I want to do something fun. Let's have cool people on the show. That's where they had the dance off and they had Jack Black singing songs. I did Knock Knock Jokes with Jack McBrayer. We just had this fun vibe, and it's still geared towards kids, but it also is fun for adults. I love that. I love being able to enjoy stuff with my kids. It's the best.

I think there's something... I think that's a very interesting take, and now that you're saying it, it makes a lot of sense, is that we grew up in a time of great cartoons, but they were certainly mostly geared geared toward children. And I'll tell you how you watch the Flintstones that was on primed time or something like that. But generally, it was geared toward children. And now those children have grown up and they have decided it can be for children, but it can also hit the right notes for adults, too, because we're the ones that really have to suffer through it. It's on 24/7.

And by the way, if the adults like it, the kids are going to watch more of it. Absolutely. Because to me, I am so thankful that I have grown up in a time of Phil Lord and Chris Miller with with the Lego movies and Spider-Verse and all this stuff because I am just as excited to see that. I want to go see those. I've listened to the Lego movie in my car so many times. And I have to tell you, it never stops being funny. It's interesting. It's great. There's really funny performances. I mean, they're great live-action directors, but it's like animation, I think, used to live in this area of being for kids. That's why I was even upset at the Academy Awards. They made some joke like, Hey, don't let your kids vote on these. I'm like, These movies are, some of them, better than the movies that are nominated for best picture. For sure. Absolutely.

These are great films. Yeah, absolutely. I read, and you tell me if this is true, that you are a bit of a Disney adult, too. Do you like to go to Disney World?

It's funny. I definitely am. And every time and then, I meet a real Disney adult, and I'm like, Well, I guess I'm not. I am very much... I love Disney. I got my yearly passport. I visit. I'll go on a moment's notice, although not lately. But I love it. It's great. And it's funny because for me, it was such an escape. When I was a kid, we would go to Orlando. I grew up in the East Coast, in New York. It was the only place that we knew to go to vacation. I didn't know until college that you could go anywhere without a theme park. I was like, Wait, where would you go? Why would you do that?

Why would you do that? I'm with you 100 %. I have a feeling that we There are some similarities in the way that we grew up in that sense, too. I came from a family. There were four boys. My mom was sick on an office when we were children. Disney World was the place where we vacated. I can think of two other places my entire childhood that we went that was not Disney World. And my dad-Let me guess because I want to see if it's the same as mine.

Bush Gardens, Virginia. Did you ever go there? We did.

That was one of them. And the second one was a cross country trip in a conversion van, 27 days. I was 14 years old.

Like vacation.

Like vacation. Exactly like vacation. Wow, wow, wow. And I can tell you what, at the time, it was torture being in that van with my entire fucking family, riding in the middle of South Dakota in the middle of the night and all this other stuff. I look back on it now and I desperately want to do this with my children. I desperately want to do this with my children.

It's so fun. We did a thing during COVID where we rented a sprinter van. A sprinter van is a little bit bigger than... Or not taller than a regular minivan. We had the best time. We drove all the way up to Portland, Oregon, and we were here in Los Angeles, Calgary. It was a great trip because we were just trying to find something to do. We were locked up and cooped up, and it was like, Let's just go. Let's just drive. Now with iPads and things like that, it's good. You could lay down. That's the other thing that was great. That's the point One of us could lay down. We left, I think, at 4:00 or 5:00 in the morning, and I slept until 9:30, 10:00. Then I started driving at that point, and then my wife was able to relax. It's like, that's what you really be. If you can do that, it actually makes the trip not that bad. But shoving everybody into a small little car, that is where it gets intense.

This was a conversion van, which they had in the '80s. I don't think they have them very much anymore, but it's like you get in, you can almost stand up. They have four captains chairs, and then they have a bench in the back where you could lay down.

Know exactly a conversion van. Yeah.

They had a TV, but it was black and white or sometimes color, but you could only tune into the local station. When you were driving, it's like 15 minutes of TV, and then you'd be like, I'll change it to the next station, son.

It's so funny because for the longest time, trailers on movie sets or TV sets would have an antenna TV. It was like, It was such a fuck you because it's like, Yeah, here you go. That's a year of TV for you. God bless you. You're not going to watch a goddamn thing on this.

Oh, man. I do have to say this. We were talking about this briefly before we started the interview, is that Paul is Mr. Podcast America right now. I don't know if anybody knows. He's winning many accolades. He's won many accolades for his wonderful show. Southwest. You were at the iHeart Awards?

We were at the iHeart Podcast Awards, yes. And we won Best TV and Film Podcast. And technically, I guess I have two TV and film podcasts, or just they're both film podcasts. One One is about bad movies. How did this get made? One is about good movies. It's called Unspooled. They're fun. And we started these podcasts 13, 14 years ago before people even knew what a podcast was. So And that was something that was really, to me, it's funny. I think that as somebody who's an actor, writer, director, whatever, you do all this stuff. But I'm so thankful, and I'm sure you are as well, that you have this podcast because it allows you to make up your own rules, do what you want to do when you want to do it. And through the pandemic, through the writer strike, all these different things, I'm still able to make stuff. And so it becomes this idea where it really... For me, I grew up or started my whole career writing my own shows, directing shows, producing shows. So it's an outgrowth of that. So I really do love it. I just love this idea that we're able to control a little bit of our destiny.

I think we love it, too. It's the only thing that we know. We don't have the... I mean, your IMDb page is, quite frankly, super and fucking impressive. It's crazy. It's super impressive. You're nice to say it. I think there was, what, over 400 credits or something like that. I saw it. I read somewhere. But one of the things that Chrissy and I started this right before the pandemic, like a week before the pandemic, we started our first episode, and it became a default place to be normal, to have an hour or two or three when we were recording, where we could just, since we were best friends already, where we could just not have to worry about or not be so paranoid about everything around us, we could share in this. We were just talking about it. It's become almost a therapy in a way for us, I think. It's gotten us through. The podcast industry can be easy, it can be tough. There's a lot of ups and downs to it. But when we turn on these microphones, everything else melts away. The creating of the show really is something super cathartic, I feel like, for me, and I'm sure you feel the same way.

Let me tell you the funny little story about your podcast. When we first started our podcast, it was maybe episode for us, number seven, eight or nine or something like that. I get on Reddit and I'm in a podcast group, and I'm sticking my link in the podcast group. Go check out my comedy podcast. Go check out my comedy podcast. And zero listeners.

Well, a family.

What's that? Well, there was some family.

Then they dropped off. They dropped off quickly.

They listened to the first 20 minutes, and then they were gone, too. They were like, We listened. That's it. One of the things we learn, Paul, about podcasts and families, they don't give a shit. No. They don't give a shit.

No. I mean, look, I'm going to say that, too. I've met so many friends who, when they have kids, they're like, We're going to move back home to have our family help out. They're not going to help out. He's fine with the babysitter. They're going to come do what they all want. Yeah, you got to learn that early.

It's so true. I get on this Reddit group and someone is talking about your podcast, right? How did this get made? They were talking about, Hey, how did this get made? Should break down this podcast? I still remember the name of the podcast. I won't shout it out here, but it was a terrible podcast. It was done in Kentucky on someone's iPhone, and all they could say was the word fuck. It was like 30 fucks and a shit. They were talking about traffic patterns and how this guy pulled out in front of me and almost made me get in an accident. Fuck this and fuck that. I get on the show the next day when I'm recording with Chrissy with this real fear, like It was a sincere fear that you were going to... I didn't know you were on the show yet, by the way. I just knew the name of the show. That you were going to find our podcast. Oh my God. I was like, Chrissy, we got to avoid being on this podcast whatsoever.

That's hilarious. Well, it's so funny. There is a podcast out there that makes fun of podcasts. Look, I guess those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I mean, we are making fun of movies, and it's as people who are actors and writers and directors and stuff. Look, we understand that everybody sets out to make a movie with the best intentions. Sure. I've worked on many a movie that we thought was going to be great, and then you watch it, and I go. Yeah. That's it. That's a thing. We did a thing. We did it. We were there. I think it's like we try very hard to not just come off- Snarky. Snarky or like- Mean. Look, the way that we wanted to do this show and the way that we came up with this idea was very much based in how friends get together after... For me, when I was a kid growing up, we would go see a movie, and then there was a Denny's right next to the movie theater, and then that's how we would extend our night. Yeah. Movie, go to Denny's, eat our food, and talk about the movie.

Good or bad. And that was the thing that we really wanted to embrace. We could do the show about There Will Be Blood, but it won't be funny. And we are fans. So that's how we approach it, very much like, let's We love this. We're not just trying to rip apart the dumbest things. But I think the thing that has happened over these 14 years is we really have gotten into character motivations. We're like, All right, so she's a gambler, but she also really wants to make pancakes. Okay, all right, now let's go through that. It's fun for us. It never runs out of stuff to talk about. I think the show devolves into different things. It's And that's the reason why actually I wrote this book because I would talk about my own stories. It is a dinner table conversation. It's not like mystery science, Theater 3000, where we're going scene by scene, moment by moment. It is just this free-flowing conversation. It's like, Oh, my gosh, that actually reminds me of the time that I stole money from school. What happened there? It becomes this whole big thing.

I love the podcast, and Christie and I were listening to it. Earlier, we were listening to your Fifty Shades of Gray.

Oh, yes, we're in the middle of our trilogy.

I was listening to the twilight one, too.

Oh, yeah. Classic, yeah.

It's a running joke. My wife has pulled me into every Fifty Shades of Gray movie. I tend to be one of the... I'm sure I'm the only straight male there, certainly, but I tend to be one of the only guys that shows up to the theater. The ladies are packing the place out. They're going nuts over everything. I just can't believe... You've seen the movies.

I didn't get into them.

The one I say episode because that's what it felt like, a bad episode of a television. When Christian Gray crashes his helicopter and then just shows up the next scene with a small scar on his head and he's like, I survived it.

And more importantly, what are you guys all freaking out about? Yeah, you crashed the helicopter.

I crashed the helicopter. What's going on? But I do sense that your show comes from a place of love for the art and not mean-spiritedness around the actual people who are trying to make this thing.

Yeah, look, I mean, very Very much. Look, we've had people on our show. We've had Charlize Theron on our show, Seth Rogan on our show, Amy Schumer. We've had all these people who are very much Adam Scott, all these people who are actively... We all work in this business, right? We all... And it's And there are... It's not... Yeah, it's just... To me, it's fun. It's like, look, and I've talked to people who have been in those movies, and they're like, Oh, my God, thank God you didn't have this. It's like, Look, we're doing nothing worse than what Dakota Johnson is doing with Adam Webb. I have one idea for you.

I'll send it to you if you want me to. Faithful Findings. Have you done this yet? I believe we did do Faithful Findings. I'm going to look it up and listen to it.

I'm pretty sure it's a Stephen King, right? Or maybe I'm wrong.

I don't think it's a Stephen King. I don't know who the original source material came from. I know this one.

We did this. No, this is this guy, Neil Breen. Yes, Neil Breen. We did Faithful Findings live Seattle. It was an amazing show. I am forever a fan of Neil Breen. As a fan of Tommy Wazot, I feel like Neil Breen is the second closest.

Right there. He is right there with us. Tell me about your book because you have a book coming out, and I think it's important that our listeners hear this.

Yes. Yo, I appreciate it. I have a book called Joyful Recollections of Trauma. I love the name. And that book is... The title is what it sounds like. It is this The stories that I told on how did this get made, these crazy moments about whether it was like going in the city to see a naked woman, which is something that I tried to do when I was in high school or burn down a resort by accident because I was pretend smoking a cigarette. I told you I don't smoke, but I was pretend smoking. How I met my wife or how I became a parent. It's these funny stories And I wanted to do a book that while it would be funny, it wasn't just anecdotes. It was this idea of looking back into my childhood, which is a little bit darker, and then trying to figure out how to make that darkness a little bit lighter. So I think the book rides this line between heavy and dark and from going from being a kid who is parented in a weird situation to then becoming a parent who has kids and like, All right, how do I do this differently?

So there is, I think, a little bit more of a spine than maybe people will be expecting. But it's been great so far and also very humbling because you have to ask people for blurbs. You have to ask people, Can you read this book? Who did you ask for blurbs? Well, on the back of my book, the people who've blurbed it, and they actually all read it, which was amazing. Normally, when people ask me to blurb, I'm like, Yeah, whatever. Yeah, whatever.

Hey, he's a great guy.

But Jane Fonda gave me a blurb. No, shit. Yeah. And Amy Poehler, all Also, Phoebe Robinson, Casey Wilson, Ed Brewbaker, who I'm a huge fan of, and Patty Oswald. So a handful of people that I just really admire and respect and who have written some books in this space. It's been a real fun journey. And now the heat is on because apparently I thought like, oh, well, the book will come out and then it will sell it. And they're like, no, you have to sell it now. So if you have any interest in buying the book, buy it now because you can buy it wherever you get your books. But it is crazy the amount of energy. Promotion and energy. Yeah, you got to go and you got to sell this book before it comes out.

Yeah. And listen, we'll put all the pertinent links in the show notes and we'll talk about it after we have- No, I I appreciate it.

You guys, wherever books are sold, it's the easiest thing, or just go to my website.

I can't wait to read it.

I can't wait to read it either. I think one of the things about doing these interviews is this actually got me reading again, full books all the way through, front to cover. I do a lot of audio listening. That's my preferred method.

Me too, and it counts as reading.

It does count.

I just recorded my audiobook, and I tried to do something different for that, too, because I wanted to, as a fan, right now, I am listening to Barbra Streisand's audiobook, which is 48 hours.

48 hours?

So long.

48 hours?

I'm in hour 32, and she's in 1982. I think Deepak Chopra has less audiobooks than Barbara Streisand. I just wanted to do something fun, so I'm I'm adding some special stuff in there where there's clips of things. I've pulled some old audio from shows and stuff like that. That's so cool. I'm really having fun putting that stuff together. Yeah, it's been a blast. My whole thing is this. I love doing my show. I love going on other people's shows. But I also understand a lot of this stuff is free, and we're in a time where money is tight. I wanted to make sure that if people are spending money, I'm giving them something. If you pre-order my book, I'm only doing 3,000, but I'm writing 3,000 postcards. And by the way, 3,000 sounds small until you get into 1,700. Oh, my God.

We give away these stickers, and then people will ask us to sign something or send something. So we have these postcards. We do the same thing. Thanks very much. We'll write a personal little message, and then we sign them. I think one day we had to do 26 of them, and I was like, God damn, are we ever going to get done with I can't imagine 3,000.

I am in this box of 3,000. And I know that once that runs out, I'll be thrilled, but then I'll feel bad because I'm like, Oh, I can't get more postcards people. But there were some things I didn't think about. Postage was one of them.

How long did it take you to write the book? How long did it take you to actually pen the book?

A lot of my friends go about writing a book by selling it. I want to write a book. And the idea of wanting to write a book and then actually writing a book are very different. And I didn't want to be one of those people who felt like my appetite was bigger than my stomach. So I had that thought, let me write a book. And then I actually sat down and started writing. And I wrote about 100 pages or so. And then I used that to sell the book. I was like, this is what the book is. That's a smart idea. Whether or not that benefited me or hurt me, I don't know. But it was clear to me. I was like, I understand what I want to be saying here. Yeah. That was really, really fun. I spent a couple months on that. I would say all in all, probably a two-year process.

I think we had an agent one time tell us, they're like, Hey, why don't you think about writing a book? I'm like, What the fuck would I say? Who would have any... There's 7,000 hours of the commercial break. If you really want to know, you can just go dig around the commercial break and every story is in there.

Well, yeah. That was the thing that was interesting for me because I wanted to figure out how to do it in a way that wasn't... And this is not saying what you're saying is this, but I didn't want to make it lazy. I didn't want to just be like, Oh, I told these stories, I'll do this. I was like, How can I put a spin on it? It really is not the book I intended to write, which is fun because it did challenge me. I was like, Oh, this is what the book is. It's not to make it sound too high, fluten, but it's like chipping away at marble. You're like, Oh, that's what I'm making. And you start to see it as you go through it a little bit. But I had to start by putting the pen or the fingertips to keyboard because it was really like... It's the way with anything I've ever written or created, whether it's a TV show or anything like that. The original idea, sometimes when you look back, you're like, Oh, that's how it came? You have to allow that process to morph and evolve.

I think we feel that way sometimes about the show, too, is that we will have an idea about where we're going. And that's not most episodes. That's just some episode.

It goes in a completely different direction.

It goes in a completely different direction. But that's where the meat and potatoes is. That's where the gold is. And you don't know until you actually start creating it. I think that's what's so interesting about all art is that oftentimes you have an idea is sparked and you're like, Oh, this thing. But as it unfolds, like the Lotus flower as someone-I love this.

As the Lotus flower, you don't know what it looks like until it all unfolds.

And then you go, Oh, now it's that thing. And that's great. And let's put that out in the world. And you wrote a book because you are not a lazy human being. Anybody with 400 IMDb credits is not lazy in any way, shape, or form. However, me, I just want to stay in the middle of the pack. I don't want to do anything.

But I do think what you're saying is really interesting because I talk to a lot of people who are like, they'll say, Oh, Paul, I want to make a podcast. How do I make a podcast? Or what's the secret? Or the same thing is like, Oh, I want to be on a TV show. How do I do it? And the truth is, is There's two things that the only piece of advice I always give, especially with podcasts, is just do something that you love with people that you want to be doing it with. And that's across the board. If it's a podcast, in success with podcasting, you make more podcasts, right? The most successful podcast, they're getting maybe a lot of money, but what are they doing? Just making more. That's it. So you have to enjoy it. And in your relationship with each other, you want to be there. And I think there's a thing, too, where it's like, I've worked with so many people who get very strongly connected to what the original intent is. And I think that I was reading this thing that Rick Rubin Is it Rick Rubin? Yeah. Rick Rubin.

He's brilliant. Yeah. He had a great producer. I wrote this book, and it was like, once it starts, the idea is the first part, but it grows. And it grows so much that even once you give it over to the world, it's no longer yours. I'm saying about that idea, too. It's what the people view it as, and for better or for worse. People could think you're a genius. People think you're an idiot. But it is like you can't control it. Once people interpret it their way, they're going to do with it whatever you can do. You can just feel like, I did it the way I wanted. You can't force a message in. But if you're malleable and you go with the flow in the middle of an episode or an interview or a thing, you're like, Oh, wait, let me go this way. I mean, it's improv. It is.

That's what it Yeah, it is improv. You're so right about this. It's like, we make it, it's here, it's in this moment. To us, it's one thing. We give it over to the world. It's something completely different to them. We have people that write in, and they're like, they get attached to these episodes and these things that we do. It's so weird to me. It's like otherworldly that someone's attached to this silly little BS that we did, but it's their interpretation. Now, it's their art to love, to cherish, to have their perception. That is good or bad because there's lots of people who say, Great, Brian. And there's plenty of people, like our families, who say, What the fuck are you doing with your life?

But it's also so hard. When I started, I wanted to always be an actor. Or at a certain point, I was like, I want to be an actor. I'd say that a lot as a kid, and no one would support that, ultimately. They're like, Oh, well, sure. But you could be a lawyer, you make a little bit more money, whatever it was. And I was so excited when I got my first gig as an actor. I got in this an off-Broadway improv group called Chicago City Limits. And I was like, Guys, I'm acting in an off-Broadway show. It's an improv thing. People be like, What's improv? Then you're like, Oh, right. Even though I'm like, Oh, I feel like I'm getting paid. I'm working. I'm going around. People just wouldn't... It was hard. And I even remember my mom said to me, I had auditioned for Saturday Night Live, and I had had my own TV show. And it was going really well. Human Giant, we had done this. Oh, what a great show. The sketch show. Oh, thanks. And And my mom was like, But I bet you still wish you could be on Saturday Night Live.

And I was like, No, I'm more than thrilled because I get to make my own thing. But that's the thing. It's hard because what people's view of success is or what they know. It's only limited by what they know. And it's like, for me, I know in my family, my biggest success will be when I get on the Kelly Rippa show. Until then, it's going to be a little bit I'm still working on it. Yeah.

My mom's still wondering when we're going to be interviewed by Oprah. I said, Mom, I think that we're 10 years too late on that one. Unless we're on Ozempic, we're not going to be interviewed by Oprah. But speaking of your acting, I think Christie is a huge fan of the-Oh, absolutely.

My husband was so excited when I told him that we were interviewing you, and he wants to know, are you really in a fantasy league?

Do you do that? I am in a fantasy league. I'm in less fantasy league than I was once. Okay. But yeah, no, I'm in a fantasy basketball and football league, multiple fantasy football league. Look, it's the best. It's a great way to my show, The League, that I was on for seven years. We It was the best time doing that show, and it really got me into that world. And we love that. I actually saw Katie Azelton last night. I hadn't seen her in a while. And I saw Mark in South by Southwest. And nick, I see all the time.

Yeah, you guys as a group, just you could tell you were all really friends and just having a blast doing it.

We have the best time. But we are not in a league. We are no longer in a league. We used to be in a league together, but we are no longer in a league together. I think simply just because not everyone in that group really gives a shit about it. But I am in a league about I am in another. I'm in three league right now.

Okay, good to know.

But it is harder for me to watch football just because of my kids. To be like, Oh, we're not going to do anything on Sunday, but watch TV is tricky because I'm I'm going to soccer games. I'm going to basketball games. But we got that NFL season pass this year, and we just keep it on throughout the week. I may not be watching football in real-time, but I watch it throughout the week.

I have a lot of friends that do this. I have a lot of friends that do this. Yeah, they get the package, and then they say, Well, I watch the-When you can. Yeah, I'll watch the Sunday afternoon game on Monday morning or whatever it is. They just watch it throughout the week. It just changed the way that we all was told.

It's nice because it is hard to be like, I mean, before you had anything to do, you could lounge around on a Sunday and just watch the game. But we keep it on. But it's so much fun to be able to have it at. Then you watch it without commercials. It goes by a lot quicker. It's great. Oh, God.

But my favorite credit that you have has got to be your credit as Roy Cohen on Oh, my gosh.

Yes.

Playing Roy Cohen in The Art of The Deal. That was just unbelievable.

So Funny or Die made this movie, The Art of The Deal, which is a made for TV movie or a made for internet movie about Donald Trump's book, The Art of The Deal. Now, who played Donald Trump? Johnny Depp. Now, when did that movie finish? Right when all the stuff about Johnny Depp comes out. Like, literally, that was released the day it came out. So all of a sudden, this fun thing that Funny or Die had done, and they had done, I think, one of those things, I think, for Steve Jobs at one point, too. It came out, and no one could really promote it because it was this weird moment.

Yeah, be careful.

Of course. But yes, I got to be Roy Cohn, work with Johnny on that who is in full Trump makeup. It's a really amazing makeup job. He's so good. He does something that's very different than what you would think a Donald Trump impression is. But he worked really, really hard on that. It's a crazy star-studded, insane 40 minutes. I think maybe it's longer than 40 minutes, what it feels. I just loved it for so many reasons on so many levels.

I love it.

I love I'd love to see a good- Roy Cohn, an interesting guy.

Yeah, I'd love to see a good poke in the ribs. I know. Yeah.

We have one more thing to talk to you about that, and that is one of our favorite shows, Naked Attraction.

Oh, my gosh. How crazy was that show?

On certain days, we break down... You break down movies, we break down videos, but we do it here, like live. We'll do it short clips. And I have been talking about this to Chrissy since 2018, took a trip to Ireland, got stuck in the only snowstorm Dublin has ever had, apparently. Shut the whole town down. I was in this hotel room with my wife for seven days, just doing nothing but stuck in the hotel room and able to walk. But anyway, they kept playing. Playing that. They had a marathon going on of naked attraction. Oh, my God. And I could not believe my fucking eyes or my fucking ears.

And you can't turn away.

You can't turn away.

No, you can't turn away. But it's so funny because while you can't turn away, there is something so bizarre about it because when would you ever make a decision based on waist down? Especially, you're seeing stuff in ways that are not sexy. It's horrifying.

It's like a biological science class or something. It's like, Oh, look at a lady. It looks delicious. And you're like, It doesn't really look delicious, though. It's weirdly lit and it's very close.

No, the backdrop, everything. Now, have you watched Sexbox?

No. No.

What's that? Sexbox is a show that someone talked to me about after I was talking to him about Naked Attraction. Sexbox, they have a box. People go in there, they have sex, and then they come out, and it's almost like a color commentary on what just happened inside the box. No. You got to have to watch it now. You got to Google it. It's on YouTube of sex box. It is truly, I mean, it ups the ante of naked attraction.

My Internet skills have failed me. I have no idea, Sexbox. I troll down some pretty dark holes for this show. I've never heard of sex box, but you better believe, tonight my wife's going to find me in a very strange place when I watch sex box.

That won't be the first time. Now, I don't know if you guys, we do this sometimes on our Twitch show, Rob and I. We will troll and find different things. I just found this thing that was killing me this week, which was parents who had brought their kid in 1979 to go see the movie Alien. I saw that.

I watched that on your Instagram. It's crazy.

He's a five-year-old. I was like, This is wild. I had to bring a five-year-old there. I was like, Oh, my God.

Alien, the original, too.

I told my kid he couldn't watch Big City Greens until he turned three and a half. I was just like, I'm so nervous about all this content just flying in their faces, and I have no idea. Alien is a fucked movie for adults to watch. Oh, yeah.

I mean, yeah. It's also just like, forget about the chest burster and all that stuff. Just about the drama. It's a drama. It's like a five-year-old sitting in there for that. It's like, come on.

That is death and destruction and chaos. It's absolutely crazy. Paul Sheer, you're one of our favorites of all time. We got so excited when you agreed to come on the show. Thank you so much.

I am so happy to be here. Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, it was a blast.

I give you express permission if you ever decide to do on how did this get made, you have express permission to do the commercial. No, never.

Take it down. No, it's the best. We're all in this together. The only thing I really want to do on our show that we've never been able to pull off, because I feel like Jason and June really haven't supported my idea for this, but I want to do Captain E. O. The Ride. I will do it with you. That's what we got to do. I love it.

If you like me to, I am 100% in. I remember The Ride like it was yesterday. Oh, my gosh. I can find the movie online. I know it. Oh, yeah.

It's all there. It's all there online. It is all there.

Commercial break meets how did it get made? We will do Captain E. You let me know and I'll do a special episode. Then I bet Jason and June will get on board. They'll be like, Oh, oh.

That's what I think. I think they need it. I think they need that.

Use me as leverage. I'm good. The number one. This guy with this mediocre comedy podcast is coming on.

No, come on. Number one, come on.

This is number one. Paul Sheer, thank you very much for coming on the show. We hope to talk to you again. And anytime you're in Disney World, call me because I'll be down there in an hour. What a pleasure. What?

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Come on, get it rolling. Move on.

Mostly, we've experienced the exact opposite, I would say. People have bad days and all that other stuff, and I get that. But what a nice human being.

He's so easy to talk to, so laid back. He makes me feel a little bit like we haven't accomplished as much.

Oh, no, no, no, no, and we have no time. There's no time. No time. No time. No time, says Kelly Kapowski. We have no time. There's no time to get 400 credits on IMDb unless you consider every one of these episodes a credit, which actually we do. And so does IMDb. They actually have us on IMDb. Did you know that? No. You didn't know that? The commercial break is on IMDb, and I did not, swear to God, all that's holy, I did not put that up there. I don't know why, they just all of a sudden were on IMDb.

Well, regardless.

You're on there. So good for you. You have a credit for each episode. Five hundred credits. We beat you, Paul. That's it. That's all I got to say. Paul was wonderful. He was super sweet.

We could have talked to him for forever. We've said that about a couple of other- I know.

There's just some people, you get the energy where you could just, this is the beginning of a great conversation. Then, of course, we cut it off because we get nervous that we stay too long. They're never coming back on the show or they're going to tell their friends, God damn, I got stuck. I mean, I just got stuck.

Don't worry. Well, whatever you do, do not go to that podcast. But hey, I can't wait to listen to his book, and I love that he's having fun with it and doing special clips and things and effects and making it a whole experience because he likes to listen to books, too, and wants to make it entertaining for those of us who do. And they do count as reading.

They do count. I agree with you. Even though we're listening, it's still a book and you're still going through it from beginning to end, or in most cases, from beginning to end. I have hundreds of audiobooks. When I was running a lot, that's what I do. That's how it kill the time. I would try and do a 5K when I ran out and ran. For me, that would take 70 minutes. I would listen to a good chunk of a book in a run, and I can't wait to listen to Paul's books, The Joyful Recollections of Trauma. It's coming out. Link in the description. As I already said, it'll be on the website, too. You can go, you can pre-order it that way. It's right there for you the day that it comes out. You don't have to wait. No waiting. Let's do it for Paul. That's what I have to Do it for Paul. Because he's a really nice guy. He's a fellow Disney World fan. He's all up in my kids' cartoons. I wanted to be mad at him about it, but it's like, I do like- I need to go back and watch this cartoon now.

Big City Greens. It actually is really fun. Here's a funny story about Big City Greens. Big City Greens, like some other shows on Disney, since they own ESPN, have started to do these layovers for NFL football games, and Big City Greens did it for an NHL game. So what they do is... Do you know what I'm talking about?

I was actually watching this. Okay, so that was the show. My nephew, I was up visiting my nephew's, and my nephew was so excited about this. It was a Penguin's game. They just did. And it was so funny to have- The little The grandma. Is there a grandma involved?

There's a grandma, there's a dad. Yeah, now you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because now my kid is so fascinated by this. He doesn't even know who the fuck hockey is, but he's like, Dad, put on Big City Greens Hockey.

I'm going to have to tell my nephew I talked to to Phil.

To Phil? Yeah, absolutely. This is a big deal. Big City Greens is everywhere. It's like Big City Greens and Bluey, they're dominating the kids' airwaves. And so now they start to do these layovers, and it's really great, actually.

It was funny. I sat there and watched the game with him while we were watching it under the big city green thing.

So I believe- Interpretation. I know they do this for NFL games, and it's play by play. And what they do is it's essentially, I guess they have magic markers that they follow the people around, and the characters are the football players. And so you're watching the actual game as it unfolds, but it's a cartoon, and it's really interesting. And then they have announcers that do the special announcing for this particular version of the game. It's really great. I forgot to ask them about that. But Paul is a wonderful person. He was so nice to join us today. Chrissy, we have eclipsed even our wildest dreams. I feel like in some ways we can go ahead and die now or turn off the show. Just go away. Who knows? We've reached the top of the improv comedy charts, whatever that means, and we've had Paul Sheer on. Paul Sheer, Margaret Show, Heather McMahon, Hannah Berner. What else could we have? Felicia Day, Joanna Hausman. I can go through all the whole list, but what else can we accomplish, really? As a mediocre Comedy Podcast, I don't think we can go too much further, or else we won't be able to call ourselves a Mediocre Comedy Podcast.

We'll be just fine. We're the Cheesecake Factory of Podcasts. The new tagline is born. The Cheesecake Factory of Podcasts. Yes, we are.

At least we're on Olive Garden.

Boom. Hey, listen, that's bad. I don't care what you say. Olive Garden, not my thing. Lots of people like it, not my thing. Not my thing at all. Even though they have endless breadsticks that are delicious.

But the breadsticks aren't good to me. When I had those, I was like, at least I can eat the salad and breadsticks, and those weren't good.

Yeah. I mean, if what we're considering good breadsticks is warm, Wonder White bread, then okay. Frozen. Yeah. Doused in butter and chopped garlic powder, then fine. Fine. It's fine. That's what it is. But I agree with you. I didn't think it was like some revelation, like everybody said for years, until I showed up at an Olive Garden and I was like, Hey, it's all right. It's all right. I don't know. I've had some Chef Boyardee. It tastes better, I think. But anyway, I don't want to knock Olive Garden. They're fine. They're fine. Go eat. Go eat there. Don't listen to me. What do I know? What do I know? I eat cream and cereal. I don't know the first thing about food. Don't listen to me. All right, tcbpodcast. Com. That's where you go. All the show notes, all the links to our guests, pertinent information. It's all there. The video, the audio. You can also get your free piggy fronting sticker by hitting the Contact Us button. Drop down menu. I want my free sticker. Give us your address. We'll send it away. Also, we need you to be a part of the show.

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