Come on. Shit, motherfucker, ass, tits, cunt, cock, motherfucker, shit, ass, tits, motherfucker, shit, come on. Fickity, fuck, fickity, fuck, fickity, Fuck, fickity, Fuck, fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, Fuck, I know no one does this, and I probably shouldn't mention on the show, but if you happen to be making love with somebody, I apologize. You can cut out the making love part.

No, you can say, screwing.

No, we're good.

Yeah, please. We're good. Reggie, come on, man. I want to tell you something.

You are amongst friends. Literally, we're the only ones that are going to hear this. You're fine.

No worries about it. The next episode of the Commercial Break starts now. Oh, yeah, cats and kittons, welcome back to the Commercial Break. I'm Brian Green, and this is my dear friend and co-host, Kristen Joy. Hopefully, best to you, Kristen. Best to you, Brian. And best to you out there in the podcast. Ask universe. Hey, I thought Aliens was the appropriate noise to play today as we have the very talented, extraordinarily unique beatboxing comic Reggie Watts coming on for the T-C-B infomercial. I'm really excited about this one because Reggie is one of my faves. He's always been one of my faves. Christie, not always because I haven't known him for that long. Not like we've been best friends since I was born. But since he hit the scene, Comedy, Bang, Bang and all that, he's super talented. He's written a book. We have it right here. He's written a book. I read it. I'm going to put it upside down. There we go.

I love that book, too.

Reggie Watts, Fast Times, Post-Punk, and Weerdo's. I'm just going to ignore it. I'm just going to ignore the fact that Blue just walked in the studio like a goddamn queen that she is. She's unbelievable. She's unbelievable. Go, get out. Leave me alone.

Oh, man. Well, I know. It's funny, too. There's a funny connection because when we told Jeff, my husband, about Reggie. Yeah. He had that story to tell. I'm going to ask Reggie about it, too. The story to tell? Because he's a musician, too.

Yeah, he is. Well, that's a good question for Reggie, too. It's like, do you consider yourself a musician, a comic, or some hybrid? I think I'm like a He's always predicting the future. I don't know. Reggie is a very- He's a renaissance man. He is a renaissance man for sure. We're super excited to have him on. We'll have him here in a couple of minutes. But first, I wanted to talk about something that I find extremely interesting. It's not as interesting as Reggie Watts, but it is interesting. That is, did you know that in 1957, the BBC fooled an entire country into thinking that spaghetti grew on trees Trees. Did you hear this? Have you seen this? No. It is insane.

Is it like this day in history?

Yeah, it's this day in history, TCB style. I feel like we've been broadcasting since 1957. I do. I feel like we have another 80 years to go. Just the day alone. I know. This day is never-ending. I swear to God it is. It's never-ending. It's been plagued by so many problems. It's just so fitting that Reggie is coming on today. It really is. We're going to end with icing on the cake, and that's...

I know. I wish I had another one of those like, It's a new moon. When you were like, That's just the bullshit I've been trying to blame something on.

That's just the bullshit I've been trying to blame something on. You know what?

It's Fat Tuesday.

Fat Tuesday. While we're recording this. There you go. We should be drunk somewhere.

And instead- What you should be. See, the world is not right.

It knows. That's right. It's trying to pull us down. Here's some beads. Go have fun. Here's some beads. Show me your...

Show me your knees.

Well, show me your knees. How does the love connection? Show me your culturally appropriate knees. Show me your ankles, as my masseuse did the other day. Show me your ankles. Okay. I got a 14-minute ankle massage. Call it a day. Why not?

And an origami lesson.

Oh, the origami sheets. So the The BBC patrolled an entire country. They put out a documentary on the BV fucking scene. I love that sense of humor. Because the world wasn't as close as it is today, you just couldn't hop on a plane, right? A few people, I imagine, only rich people or people with means, would take a boat to go to Italy or get on a train or whatever they did back then to Italy. That spaghetti wasn't a thing that was very popular in Britain. So because it wasn't very popular, some producers- They're still not known for their pasta. No, they're not known for their food at all. Let me attest to that. I feel like I am British in a different life. I feel like born in the wrong country. I love the British. I love their humor. I love everything about it. I love your country, your food. But I'm Irish and I don't have much to talk about, so there you go. They put together this entire documentary where they hung, cooked spaghetti from trees, like olive trees, and just rows and rows of the spaghetti. So I saw the actual parts of the documentary, and these ladies were going around pulling the cooked spaghetti and laying them out in bath.

There was a guy holding a basket, and they would put it in the basket and lay it out. And they fooled an entire country into believing that spaghetti grew on trees.

That is too funny.

Isn't that fucking wild? I don't know why, but mind blown.

Back to you, 1977.

1957, BBC. Yeah, '87. Yeah, '87, BBC. Yeah, '87. Yeah, '87, BBC. Yeah, god damn right. The first Rickroll ever. It grew on trees. It grew on trees, really, guys? It grew on trees. That's what you believe? That's what you had? I don't know. That's it. After the war, maybe just people weren't thinking straight. Twelve years after the war.

Maybe they were doing a drying action because when I've made homemade pasta, there's a drying rack, and it could be like a branch. Yeah.

This was officially they were trolling. It was like a purposeful, Yuckle, Yuckle, Yuckle, the Clown School, thing going on. Good old Yuckle, the Clown School, and dating advice. That's right. If you get a chance to look up the BBC documentary on spaghetti growing on trees, because now, knowing what we know, that in fact, spaghetti does not grow on trees, then it'll be funny to you to watch as people try and convince you- I'm going to look for it. That spaghetti grows on trees. The great BBC, the Great British Broadcasting Corporation Company, whatever they call it, channel. I don't even know what it is. But that's how the British roll. They fund that BBC. Now, they have many other channels besides that, but it used to be the BBC, BBC One, BBC Two. They still have BBC Seven, BBC Eight. When you go over there, it's all BBC or Sky TV or whatever it is. We just don't have any equivalent here in the United States. Our broadcasting channels are not what they used to be. Let's just put it that way. I think you could- There's more of them, but more doesn't mean better. There's thousands of channels.

More does not mean better. I bet you could go ask a 15-year-old what ABC stands for or NBC stands for, or CBS stands for it, and they probably would not even understand what you're talking about. They'd be like, What are you talking about? Channel 5? Channel 5? Yeah. My dad watches it. That's where he gets all his news about Trump. All right. The great Reggie Watts up with us in just a few minutes. His book, Great Falls, Montana, Fast Times, Post-Punk, and Weirdos. He's coming up on this show. I can't believe it. It's yet another fine, fantastic guest book on this show that has no, absolutely no business being here, but we'll take it where we can get it.

That's right.

We fooled another one. You won't be fooled again? Oh, yes, you've been fooled again. So let's do this. Let's take a short break, and when we come back, we will be with Reggie.

Reggie and Blue.

What's that?

Reggie and Blue.

No, I'm guaranteed I'm getting that Blue out of here real fucking quick.

She turned around to look at me. I know.

What? She's like, What? Don't touch me. I'll bark. Oh, here she comes. She's like, Yeah, okay. You want me to bark? I'll bark. All right, let's kick Blue out, and we'll be back. Okay.

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And we're here with Reggie now. Reggie, thanks so much for joining us here on the Commercial Break. Thanks for taking time out of what I'm sure is a very busy schedule to be with the most important show in the podcast universe, The Commercial Break.

You've done Konan, and now- You've done Konan, and now you're here.

I've done the Barbarians show. Yes, you're done. And now I'm here.

I noticed there's a pattern going on with our guests.

It's like, Rogan, Konan, seven months later, the commercial break.

When we just run out of options, we're like, All right, the commercial break, let's go there. But you know what? We are the most mediocre podcast in the universe, so it's okay that you're here last. I want to ask you- Max Mid. I want to ask you a question that I one time asked Dane Cooke, so there's a lot of similarities here. I'm hoping you give me a much more interesting answer. What is the very first thing that you found funny, that you can remember finding funny? Just the very first thing that you found made you laugh.

Yeah, it was watching the Muppet show, and they would have something called the Muppet News flash. Oh, yeah. It was this reporter that had like, looking like this. Like a big chin, like what a nose, like broadcaster-looking guy. It'd be A Muppet news flash. He has this little prompter paper in front of him, and he's like, There are reports of a strange identified object in the sky. And then he just gets crushed by this giant bell.

We're and it's just like... We're talking about the original Muppet show, Primetime Muppet ship, right?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. It was like 1979 or something like that, or 1980. Yeah, and this bell just immediately falls on him, and you hear this, or whatever, and I couldn't stop laughing for an hour because it's just like it happened so quickly. It's just like, I'm up here in your splash. There are reports of an unidentified...

You know what?

Much more interesting answer than Dane Cooke, by the way. You win. The reason why I wanted to ask you this is because you have such a unique brand of humor that I find so funny. It's disorienting and funny at the same time. It comes out of the blue. It's like you have to really think to keep up with what's going on on stage. I love it. I just was curious about where your comedy gets its origin What informed your comedy?

Maybe you can help me.

Maybe you can explain it because you're you and you have a better idea of where you got that from. But what informs that sense of humor, that disorienting out of the blue? Here it comes, That Muppet segment tells it all, I guess. Just came out of the blue.

Yeah, I don't know. I guess some of it is the Muppets, for sure. They had a silliness to them that was very silly. And so it starts with silliness. And then I think Monty Python, when I saw Monty Python, that blew me away. And that was this absurdest silly humor. I think it's just an appreciation for things that are silly and mixing it with not having to have to make everything make sense and connect. That ideas can be, and I think it probably came from studying music, where music, it's like you can throw things that don't make sense at all in a composition, and it works. It can be disjointed, and it can change styles drastically at any given moment. It doesn't have to make sense. I think with humor, just expanding it to humor and improvised or improv-based comedy or whatever performance, I think that that's where that all came from. Just being silly, but I don't have to make it a cohesive narrative, like a little perfect sense narrative. Yeah, it probably came from that.

Yeah, I think I've been a fan of yours, Comedy, Bang, Bang, College Humor Days, and I'm just so fascinated. I think that's a great analogy that you made with the music is there's no barriers, there's no walls. It comes out of nowhere. It goes places you wouldn't expect it to go. Sometimes there's no narrative to it whatsoever. But it is very, very funny. Do you feel like, you talked about this in your book, which is great, by the way, Christie and I both read it. Do you feel like comedy helped you break down barriers? Look at that. Nice.

That's my favorite on the messages you can do on your iPhone.

So for six weeks, I say, Chrissy and I were sitting here doing the show, and every, let's call it 15 minutes, shit started popping up on the video screen.

Thumbs up, fireworks, balloons, little guys flying across. And we couldn't figure out for the life of us why this was happening. We were wondering if we were streaming live and someone is reacting to it, and we just couldn't figure it out until we realized that Apple had somehow placed some emojis inside of our computers.

Yeah, whatever they call excite-acons. I don't know what they are.

Did you feel like humor was a barrier breaker for you? You were born overseas and you came here and ended up in Great Falls, Montana somehow. Did you feel like humor became a wall breaker for you?

I mean, yeah, for sure. I mean, for sure. But it's not quite like something that I was like, How do I survive in society? I better choose humor. Not that you're implying that, but just, I don't know. I think some people might think that that's the way that it happens. No, I mean, it was just like I was just naturally playful, weird. I loved stuff that was weird, stuff that represented things in strange ways, or it shows that made me feel weird I just always gravitated to strangeness. I think that was there. Then mix in the silliness, then my love of pop culture, and then referencing pop in order to make it more palatable for people, those types of things. That all just happened naturally.

It comes across in the music, too. Christie, you actually have an interesting story about- I do.

I ended up telling my husband that we were interviewing you, and he has an indie record label called Terminus Records, and he did a lot with Tucker Martin and Wayne Horvitz on the MyLab record. He recently did that. It was a pandemic project for him to rerelease some of his old things that he'd worked on, old projects and MyLab was one of them. So he was like, Oh, my God, I don't know. Tell him Tucker Martin and Wayne Horvitz will definitely remember the MyLab record.

Yeah, for sure.

It's awesome. I love that record. I was like, Reggie, what's his song?

The 4+1 Ensemble record? Yeah. I haven't heard it in a while. Yeah, it was fun to tour it.

Yeah, definitely. Amazing.

So were you a musician first? When you came out, you were looking to be a musician, or was comedy a natural fit for you, or just blending those two together made sense?

I guess it all just started to make sense because I would use music in my comedy, or I would do parodies like weird Al. Coming out with Eat It was such a huge... Other than that came out, it was like, What the fuck is happening right now? This is insane. Yeah, anyways, it just blew me away that you could do that. Then I started making my own parody songs. I don't know. Then also just the '80s pop culture-wise. In the '80s, it was just... I'm so glad I grew up then because it was the height of pop culture. American or Western pop culture. It was just like, no one knew anything. How we got there, no one knew. They were just like, We're here, so let's party. It was like that vibe. Yeah, so the stuff that came out was so innovative and for the first time, and it was experiments on television. Television was the experimental platform, like the Internet is now. Yeah, I was exposed to a lot of really crazy, weird shit that is still weird by today's standards.

Absolutely.

There's nothing like the '80s.

Look at old Max Zetterer episodes. Tell me that shit.

I've completely rewatched that. It's so telling of our current paradigm. I mean, it's so prescient. It's incredible. It's a good show. It's fucking weird.

I watched it during the pandemic. I went back and rewatched it, and it was just crazy. Yeah, me too. The craziest thing, I think, is that, and I think we're a similar age, but the crazy thing to me is that that mex headroom bit was based on an actual... I grew up in Chicago. It was based on something It was an ad. It was an ad. But the guy broke the... He hacked into the local television station. Oh, that was crazy.

Yes. I forget.

I don't think to This day, they knew who did it, but he had some transponder receiver or something, and he actually broke in. They were moving this weird background while he had this weird makeup on.

Yeah, to make it look like half mech, et cetera. It was insane. They hacked the public television or whatever station it was for two minutes or something like that or three minutes. I think they did it twice.

Yes, they did it twice.

I think they did it twice. It's crazy. No one knows to this day.

To this day, no one understands how they actually hacked it or who was actually behind it, which is crazy. If they did something like that today, they'd certainly be underground in the jail.

Oh, my God. Yeah.

You talk about the eat it record.

But that was that time.

It was. It was the '80s.

Everyone was high and happy and I guess.

I feel blessed to have grown up in the '80s, actually.

Oh, yeah. That eat it record. A hundred %. My parents wouldn't let me... Even though my very first album that they got me was Run DMC, followed by Beastie Boys, they wouldn't let me get the Eat It record because for some reason they thought it was rude. It was rude and I couldn't have it and I wasn't allowed to get... Don't ask me. Wow. I love it. We were off in this weird Irish Catholic household and Certain things were off in it. We went to church for the first school, but not for God.

It was a weird...

I grew up in a weird town.

Yeah, of course.

But my grandma bought it for me, the Eat It record, and we played the shit out of that.

My grandmother would buy me the stuff, For sure.

Oh, that's cool. What a cool grandma.

I don't think she realized what she was doing.

Okay. Well, you got lucky.

But how blessed I was. I have a question, and I don't think in doing homework about you, I don't think I got this answer. How did you actually make it onto the James Corden show as a band leader? You were great on that show, by the way. Great on that show.

Oh, thanks. Yeah, it was fun times in the city. I think I had just gotten done with Comedy Bang Bang, and I was in LA for a couple more weeks, and then I was going back to New York. And then in that time, I got a call to meet with James Corden, who I didn't know at the time, and went to this hotel in Beverly Hills, sat down, talked with the showrunner, Ben Winston and James. And then, I think at one point, they basically just said, We'd like you to be the band leader. James was like, I don't want anybody else. I want you. I was like, Okay, but I was like, I just quit Comedy Bang Bang, and I was looking forward to having some solo time and to chill time, figure out some other projects to get into. It took me a while to decide to do it or not, but it took me, I don't know, maybe a month of just checking around, stuff like that. Then it happened. I chose to do it, and I asked them for all the stuff I wanted, and they were cool with everything that I asked for, and then we did it.

There you go. Yeah, you broke the mold. The coolest band leader in all of late night television for sure. It was a good run. I think James Gordon just ended last year, didn't he?

Yeah, April 28.

Yeah. So I want to ask you a question about growing up in Great Falls, Montana. So you were born in Stuttgart.

Is that right?

Yeah, that's right. You were born in Stuttgart and then came over and landed in Great Falls, Montana. How was it growing up in Great Falls, Montana?

It's beautiful out there. I loved it in your book when you were talking about how you can just see the sky. You can see all of these things forming, these weather patterns. It's beautiful out there.

Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, it's... Again, growing up there in the '70s and the '80s, it was just a perfect time to grow up there because you didn't have any network devices, no cell phones, and a lot of autonomy, and a lot of self-discovery. And to be in nature and to sign up for programs, like swim classes after school or skiing. Or I was in the Boy Scouts, and we used to go camping and learn knots and survival skills and all that stuff, and that was really great. But then also Star Wars and all the '80s pop culture was really popular. So playing with kids like Star Wars and hanging out in the woods and playing games and going to swamps and whatever. It was awesome. It was like everything that Stranger Things depicts, they nailed it. That's pretty much the existence. It was riding your bike as fast as you can to get over to your friend's house to play Dungeons and Dragons or to play some weird Atari game or something like that. It was an idyllic upbringing.

Did you find it was easy to make friends in Great Falls, Montana? Was it easy to come from out of the country and then make your way into Great Falls, Montana, or was there barriers to finding friendships and assimilating?

Yeah, I would say Yeah, I think it was pretty easy. I mean, I had a lot of friends. In my early years, I had mostly girl friends.

Me, too. In my early and later years.

Yeah, you have that side.

Oh, yeah. There you go.

That's how we're doing this show. We're best friends.

Yeah, that's the way to do it. I agree. Because women rule. I agree. More fun. More fun. But yeah, But yeah, I always had friends. I was pretty good at making friends. I don't think I ever dreamed of being with friends that I didn't get to be friends with. I think I just made friends with whoever was down to be friends. So I never really had a want or anything like that. It just organically happened. And yeah, it was great. Yeah, it wasn't hard at all, really.

Yeah, I feel the same way. I think people ask, Were you in the popular click? Or were you in the band click? Or were you in this click? And I was like, I don't know. I was friends with who I felt like I was friends with, and I wasn't really bothered by anything else. I just tried to tune out the noise a little bit, and it really didn't matter to me. And quite frankly, I like to be alone a lot, too. So that was one thing.

You did play third string, what, saxophone?

I played third- Third string. Third-chair saxophone.

Third- Third- Third-let's get it right.

Sorry, there's no strings. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Nice. Yeah, no strings attached.

Fuck Russell. First chair.

I wanted to be second chair because I didn't want to have all the responsibility of first chair.

Yeah, totally.

You don't want to... No. Second chair was cool, yeah. I was first chair, second violin at one point. Oh, were you? Which was dope. But that's like being second chair, first violin.

I didn't want the heavy weight of first chair. I really wanted second chair, but they gave me first chair.

First chair is too much.

Yeah, I feel like it's the pressure.

If you ride down the middle, no, everyone just lets you be. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to stand out in any particular way. One of my favorite bits that you do, you sing a song about Robitussen. Oh, yeah. Yes. Robitussen and Benadryl. I think it's actually about Benadro, but you talk about Robitussen, too, which I identify with. Robitussen is a nice dissociative that can really make for a wonderful Saturday evening, especially When you're 17 years old and all those girlfriends that you have don't want anything to do with you on Saturday night.

They're happy to talk to you at school. They don't want to talk to you on Saturday night. I want to ask you a little bit about this. Because I did see an interview, maybe it was last week, I was watching this interview, and you had a shirt on, and I can't forget what it says, but it was about ketamine.

It said something about ketamine.

Oh, maybe the Ketaverse.

Ketaverse. Tell me your thoughts on ketamine. I'm interested to hear this.

I love it. I think it's one of my favorite drugs ever. It's a very I call the space that you enter into with the infinite liminal, meaning it feels like you're in a diagnostic mode. It feels like you're in the hallways between all the things reality is, or at least perception. So you're in between everything. And then in being there, you're also not very emotional. It's very pragmatic in a strange way. And you're able to, depending on how high you get, I like going into a K-hole because that's an incredible experience to just fall into this zone where you're not having to think about anything. You're just in a pure experiential mode. And it's so kaleidoscopic and fractal and just otherworldly, just reconfiguring the way that you're seeing reality and perceiving it. It's really amazing. Then when you're not in a cave hole, but still pretty high and you're with friends, it can be this really incredible social situation where you're both occupying the same reality, almost like you're in a dream state together, consciously. And incredible things happen in that state. I've witnessed, at least seemingly telepathic things, people coming up with the same experiences and not talking to one another, or talking over great distances across a loud room at a very low voice, but still being able to hear each other perfectly.

Very weird stuff. I've done music, recorded music, high on Ketamine, and what comes out of it is insane. It's insane that you can even function when you're that high, but it's like things just start to happen automatically. It's like you're just automatically playing and observing yourself playing. You're listening to to the record you're making, if that makes sense. Yeah, you're listening to the record you're making. It's crazy.

It's very interesting.

It's an interesting drug to me.

I've done it. I've been in a K-Hole. I find it to be a very fascinating place to be. It is like having an out-of-body experience is the best way that I can explain it. It is a dissociative, so that's exactly what it does. You disassociate from your body, and I guess that's why now they give it as a a pain killer. I've had some friends who have been in accidents, trauma to their leg or whatever, and now they're giving ketamine.

Yeah, and for mental health. There's so many new discoveries, too, that people are going back to.

Well, here's why I wanted to ask you. Yeah, I just wanted to ask you about it because the interview that I was watching, you were speaking really highly about ketamine. I had a friend, this is probably a decade ago, and he had something called trigeminal neuralgia, which is also referred to as the suicide disease. Oh, that is the Yeah, suicide disease. Because it affects the main nerve that runs through your face. It causes these headaches. Yeah, all the way. He got it from- It's insane. He thinks from playing hockey. He was a semi-pro hockey player, and he thinks he got it from just banging his head repeatedly. That also came with some PTSD and some mental health issues. He had tried everything everywhere all the time, every doctor, mass amounts of opiate-related pain medication, all this other and stuff. The doctor, Sloan Kettering or somewhere, one of these famous hospitals, prescribed him Ketamine. One day I saw him sniffing something out of a bottle in the afternoon, and I was like, What are you doing? Is that nasal stuff? He's like, Dude, don't tell anybody Let me do this. He handed me the bottle and it was ketamine.

I was like, Whoa, for ketamine? A prescription for ketamine? That's fucking insane. How are you taking that stuff? He's like, Brian, I swear to God, this is a wonder drug. It has helped me so much and I can still function. I'm okay to function. It's a small enough dose that I function, but it takes away the pain and it puts me in a frame of mind where I don't want to literally jump off a cliff all the time. I was like, Oh, that's amazing. Now, my experiences with ketamine, I'm just a recreational user of ketamine and probably taking too much of it at times.

But I was just so surprised by this, and I'm so fascinated by the pharmacology that we all, as children growing up in the '80s and '90s or teenagers or young adults in the '80s and '90s, taking all these drugs experimentally.

They're illegal, they're bad, they're, Don't do this, you're going to be arrested, whatever. Now the world waking up to this like, Wow, ecstasy can help. Wow, mushrooms can be great in therapeutic sessions. Ketamine can help people literally take them off the edge. I like how you talk about this in a very pragmatic, realistic, but you're also, I don't know, in almost a responsible way. I really thought you had some good thinking on that. Then you were talking about Kraytum one and one of the interviews also. Christie and I were talking about this early. What is your experience with Kraytum?

Well, I first experienced it. I was doing this I did this video series that I created called Droneversations, that are interviews with other musicians, other cool, groovy people that's entirely shot by drones, but the drones are so loud, you can barely hear the conversation. I did one with Thundercap, and he showed up with this case of K-Shots. He's great. He had this case of K-Shots, and I was like, What the fuck is this K-Shot thing? He's like, It's Kratam, or he might have been pronouncing Kratam, but it is pronounced Kratam. I was like, Oh, sure. I'll check it out. I did one, and I was like, Holy shit, this is an insane eye. This is amazing. He was popping him every 30 minutes or something like that. I was like, How are you doing this? He's built like a tank. But anyways, I thought I can withstand some pretty high doses, but that was just too much. Anyways, I had one, and we did the shoot, and then the next day, I went to a smoke shop, and they sell them there. I got a little box of it. I came home, took one, felt amazing.

Then I took another one, and And I felt sick.

Sick, yeah.

Yeah. And I was like, Maybe this isn't for me. And then I gave them away. And then, flash forward, I don't know, over a year later, and then this product, Feel Free, shows up on my Instagram ads. And even though I hate getting ads on Instagram, I was like, Well, that's interesting. And so then I ordered some, and then I had one. I was like, Holy shit, I feel incredible right now. But it was mixed with cava. It was like a cava-cratum blend. You get the anti-anxiety aspects, calming aspects of cava, and then you get the euphoric elements of creatum. I started there I really fell in love with it. Then started experimenting with that. That and THC, edible plus kratam, or sorry, plus ketamine, produces an incredible high. That stack, if timed correctly, if you do the edible first, then wait a half an hour, then do the feel free. I usually do the whole thing. Some people just do half, but some people get a little sick from feel free, too. But anyways, you do that. That's what I did, anyways. And then added the K, maybe an hour after that, after the onset of both of those things.

And it just produced this insane high. I felt like I was all those pictures of someone sitting on a Lotus, all the energy fields around, these graduated energy fields around them. I felt like that. And when I was speaking with my friend, I was speaking in the most fluid, concise way I've ever spoken in my life. It was insane. I was like, What is that? When I hit that, that's really what I'm doing. When I'm experimenting with these things, I'm calibrating chemicals and seeing where it gets you. Is it consistent? Is it dependent on... Is it contextually dependent? Blah, blah, blah. That's where I got into it. But then, feel free, it was a little bit too grenade-like, and some people were like, Oh, I'm having a problem with it. I'm addicted. I don't really have an addictive personality. So I was like, Well, I'll take breaks. I'm going to take more breaks from it. I took breaks, and I feel fine from it. But then this other product came in called New Brew that is about half the dose of a Feel Free, but they use an extract instead of using the whole kratum leaf.

And Feel free, you'll get clumping because there's actual plant matter in there.Chunks.

Of it, yeah.

There's chunks of it, yeah. It gets gloppy, which I hate because it tastes so shitty that when you're doing it and suddenly it sticks for a second and then dumps a whole bunch in your mouth, you almost throw up. It's like, Oh my, oh. With New Brew, it's an extract. They just extract it from the leaf, and it's much easier on your stomach. I don't know anybody who's gotten sick from it like they do with Feel free. And it tastes good. It tastes like a Yurba mate. No more plantier than a Yerba mate would taste. So they really nailed that formula. Now I'm like, This is the perfect formula. On occasion, I'll do a Feel free if I want to do a grenade, like hardcore. But mostly, I just stick to that. So that's my relationship with Kreaton now.

Yeah, I've taken Kratum, and I took it. I remember the first time I took it, someone was telling Christie that someone left a bag of it at my house after a party. There was a party, someone left a bag. Oh, yeah. Looseleaf. Yeah, it wasn't looseleaf. It was It was actually in pills. I called the person and said, Hey, you left this stuff over here. I had no idea what it was. Oh, take a few. It'll be fine. I'll get next time, whatever. I took a few before I went to a movie with the girl I was dating at the time. I remember feeling this feels very much like I took a painkiller and had a couple of cups of coffee, right? It feels like there's like a...

Yeah, that's a good description.

Like a mellowing effect, like a Vicodin. You're feeling relaxed, but you want to go do stuff. I couldn't sit still in the movie. I was like, I want to go organize my closet. I want to talk about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're so methodical about your chemical use. I feel like you take notes or something.

Everybody's brain is different. Yeah, that's true. People respond in different ways. You got to feel what's right for you.

Yeah. I just like exploring. It's fun when you're experiencing some of these things with other people and you're able to share in these experiences. I recently ran into methaquiline, which is also known as quailids. Oh, I didn't know they made it. Which hasn't existed. Yeah, it hasn't been around since 1983, but some chemist, I guess, somewhere, figured out the precursor in order to make the chemical reaction to produce methaquiline. And so I got to try it. I can understand why people would get hooked to it. It's classified as a hypnotic. Yeah. I I don't know. It's an interesting high. It just makes you feel really groovy. It's like a volume, I guess. I don't have that much experience with volumes and whatever the other things that are general abuse. Xanax and all that stuff. I can't really remember what that high is, but I know that it's generally like opioid-y, feel good and numb or whatever.

But heavy. It's heavy.

Heavy, yeah. You got a weighted blanket on you or something like that. This is not that. It's like that. It's that feeling, but it's hyperfunctional. So you're still like, you're zippy. You're like, Oh, I want to do this. I want to do that. But I just feel great. I know no one does this, and I probably shouldn't mention it on the show, but if you happen to be making love, with somebody. I apologize. You can cut out the making love part.

No, we're good.

You can say, screw him. Yeah, please.

We're good. Reggie, come on, man. I want to tell you something.

You are amongst friends. Literally, we're the only ones that are going to hear this. You're fine.

No worries about it.

That's so awesome.

Take it all the way.

Yeah, all right. Well, yeah, when you're doing that, it's on Qualude, it's really beautiful. It's very hyper connected. It's a really beautiful thing. But it's also functional. You could be taking it at a party. I like to take drugs sometimes in social situations and also in comfortable at home situations just to know what are they like in different contexts. At a party, it's really nice, too. You just feel like, Hey, man. Hey, brother. How's it going? Hey, dude. It's like how Matthew McConaher must feel all the time.

I imagine sometimes you get recognized, and I know you're a kind person, an empathetic person, and you probably try to do your best to be nice to everybody, right?

But you're at that party and there's that annoying guy like Brian Green, Hey, Richie, what did you do this?

. When you're in third grade, whatever.

Everything's great. Yeah. And then you're in third. Everything's great.

That Brian Green guy, he was interesting to talk to.

Yeah, he was really cool. Very thorough. Yeah. I mean, a New Brew or Feel free also does that socially. It makes whoever you're talking to, you're completely interested in everything they're saying. It's amazing. It makes you so receptive to information that you see it all as great and interesting. It's really quite incredible.

Nice.

I'm going to the head shop because the head shop has it.

I saw the New Brew at the head shop.

Oh, you Nubru? Yeah, get some New Brew. The CEO guy, he's the dude that turned me on to it. They gave me some, and then he came over and gave me more, and we hung out. He's a really cool dude. He and his brother started the company. Dear New Brew. Yeah. Hey. I know. Hey, Hey, they might. I mentioned it on area, probably, you'll feel me down.

Hey, listen, the commercial break audience, this is probably perfect for New Brew, so come on board. I have to say this. We just have a few minutes up, but I have to say this. I was trying to explain to my wife, who's Venezuelan, who's not so familiar with Reggie Watts. But I said he's like a communications voyager. He's like reaching out to people in new, weird, wonderful ways. I've always seen you like that as a person who just mixes stuff up and is trying to communicate with people in these weird and wild ways. I've loved it since a long time ago. I've just loved your brand of humor, your music, your style. I think it's super interesting. The book is great. Great Falls, Montana Festimes, Post-Punk, Weerdo's. Reggie, I really appreciate you coming on today, and I know Christie does, too.

Absolutely. I share a love of shoehorn with you as well.

Oh, They're the best.

They're the best. Wait, tell us about the shoehorn. Hold on. You can't leave it like that. What? I didn't...

I know.

I love shoehorns. They're amazing. I have a really great one. Use it every day. I have a really great one, too. All my Gen Z friends are like, What is that? They have no idea what it is. I'm like, It's a shoe. Then when I show them, they're like, What?

Yeah, that's awesome.

I thought of my grandfather in that part of the book because my grandfather used to have the...

He has the old school. He used to have the old school.

The tiny one. The tiny ones. But then he also had the very large ones, too, the ones that you slip down. When he got older, the older ones where he got down, he had a shoe buffer, an electric shoe buffer from the, I don't know. I love it. The '50s. I just used to play with that thing. Every time I went over there, there was nothing else to do except for the shoe buffer, and I just used to put my foot in there.

You got to take care of your shoes and your feet.

Yeah. Oh, man. I could probably spend the entire afternoon talking to you, Reggie.

We really appreciate I appreciate you coming on.

Yeah, thank you for taking the time.

Hopefully, we'll get a chance to talk to you again. And, new brew, come on, come on board. Yeah. I'll tell you what, we get new brew and we'll all drink it and we'll do an episode of the commercial break. Let's do it. Oh, yeah, let's do that. That'll be fun. Done deal.

So New Brew CEO guy, send us some New Brew and we'll get Reggie on and we'll say, New Brew all day long.

We'll call our show the New Brew Break. Yes. I'm a whore. I'll give it out. Reggie, thank you so much. Go out and get the book, guys. We really appreciate it. Thanks, Reggie. Nice to meet you. Pleasure. What? Oh, hi. It's Christina again, here to remind you to go to tcbpodcast. Com for all things audio, video, and T-C-B-D-O. Give us a follow on Instagram at the Commercial Break and on TikTok at T-C-B podcast. And guess what? We have a new phone number. I know what you're thinking, but I promise this is the last T-C-B phone number you will ever have to remember. For. So call us and leave us a voicemail or text us at 212-433-3-T-C-B. Once more for the people in the back, that's 212-433-3TCB. Oh, and check out our YouTube channel at youtube. Com/thecommercialbreak. That's all for now. Let's listen to our sponsors and get back to the show.

Oh, man, the great Reggie Watts. How can you argue with the great Reggie Watts?

You can't. You can't.

It's hard to argue with the great Reggie Watts. I feel like I'd lose anyway. He's so cool. He's like the epitome of cool, and then he's super smart on top of it. I always feel like Reggie's... I don't know how to say this. He's so cerebral, right, that I wonder how stupid he thinks I really am. I like to ask him that question. Like, How dumb do you think I really am? Well, he said he's going to come back.

Well, they all say they're going to come back.

They all say they're coming back. But as Astrid pointed out, it's hard to say, No, I won't come back. But I'm sure it will happen at some point. At some point, somebody's going to go, No, no, thanks. That's probably when we get Cory Hayman or what a Feldman on or something. We tried to have Cory Feldman on. He just wanted us to pay him. I was like, No, I'm not going to do it. No. Not going to get in the business of paying people to be on the show. If three listens is not enough to prod you onto the show, Well, well, then fuck you. Then fuck you. If the great Reggie Watts knows it's important, then Cory Feldman should know it's important. Yes. God damn it. Of course, I do notice that a lot of our guests, including Reggie, and I don't blame Reggie for this at all. As a matter of fact, I'm also thinking the same way, and I'm not even half as famous as Reggie is, that I do notice that they go through the list. Konan, Joe Rogan, whatever, two bears in a cup or whatever it is. They make the rounds.

Yeah, they make the rounds.

Then when they've exhausted all other options. They're like, Well, I guess I got to go do that other show.

There's this one more. They say they have listeners, but I... Yeah, they say they have listeners, but I was actually on the show and I wouldn't listen. But in our defense, I actually don't have a defense. There's no defense. Oh, that was exciting.

I love all of our interviews that we've been doing. Yes, I do.

I love Reggie. Thank you, Reggie, very much for coming on. Go grab his book, Great Falls, Montana: Fast Time, Post-Punk, and Weirdos. It's a great book. It's a great read. It's an easy read. I actually think this is the book that can be turned into a movie, and I think it should be turned into a movie. Because Reggie is just one of those unique comic minds that don't come along very often, and we should cherish it, and it should be put on celluloid in a very funny way so that we can all enjoy it for many eons to come. Of course, I'm probably 30 years older than Reggie, and I'll die before he does, but whatever. You get the point.

You got the point. Well, Blue, Christie and I want to say thank you very much to Reggie.

Yes, Blue, especially. She's a big fan.

Yes, huge fan.

So much of a fan.

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