I'm Jeff Prope, Host and Showrunner of Survivor. Last season in On Fire, the official Survivor podcast, we gave you the producers point of view of how survivor works. This season, we're adding an all new twist. We're going to add in the players point of view, which means we have a new member of the tribe joining us. Welcome, survivor38, Edge of Extinction Castaway, Rick Devons.

Thank you, Jeff. I am so excited to be here. Each week, our producer Jay and I will take you through the key moments, the edge of your seat turning points of survivor45. We'll dissect these from the player's mindset, and we'll be circling in on questions we have about the producer's choices.

So I'll answer those questions and give you the how and the why from the producer's point of view. So this season, you're getting the fan, the player and the producer's point of view. There is no other podcast doing this.

It's why On Fire is the only official survivor podcast.

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Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Desi Leidig. We've got a great show for you tonight. Joe Biden's dog turns the secret surface into an all-you-can-eat buffet. We learn why your grandmother's butt dials weren't going through, and we put an end to a terrible rumor about Nikki Haley. Plus, Grammy winner Jason Isbell. Yeah. So let's get into the headline. Let's kick things off with the scandal that's been rocking the White House. According to a new report, Joe Biden's dog, Commander, bit secret Service agents at least 24 times before he was banished from the White House last October. 24 times. I'm sorry. Even John Wick would be like, You got to get rid of that dog. That's ridiculous. Let's move on to another world leader, Beyoncé. She just made history by becoming the first black woman to top the country music chart. Huge. With their hit song, Texas Hold'em. So, grace yourselves, girls and gays, because half your friends on Instagram are going to spend the summer thinking they can pull off cowboy hats. They can't. This is very exciting for everyone. Well, except for Jay-Z. Lemonade was great. But if you get caught cheating in a country song, thoughts and prayers, Jay-Z.

Thoughts and prayers. In tech news, tens of thousands of people across the country lost cell phone service this morning when AT&T and other companies were hit with a massive outage. No one got any calls or texts. Thousands of Americans finding out what it's like to be Ted Cruz. I bet cable companies were feeling pretty cocky this morning. Well, well, Well, guess the landline isn't so useless anymore, is it? Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm getting a call. It's a telemarketer. For more on this fallout of this service disruption, we turn to Troy Iwada. Now, Troy, were you affected by this awful outage?

Awful? Does he? This was the best morning of my life. I reconnected with an old friend, and his name is Troy. I looked up at the world around me. Children were laughing. People were chatting. Bonjour, monsieur.

Bonjour.

Okay, I'm glad you had a nice time off the grid. But what can you report about the impact of this outage? Emergency services had trouble all day.

You know who didn't know about that? Me. Because I had no service. I wasn't reading dumb notifications. I was taking a walk with a beautiful stranger I met on the train, and we took a horse-carriage ride, and we sat by the lake, and we watched two swans make love.

It was It was very loud.

I'd never seen a swan finish before. Then, I meditated under a tree, and I entered a transcendental enlightenment, and I experienced ego death. I also baked these Snicker Doodle's.

I love Snicker Doodle's. Troy, I have to admit, I didn't realize that there was such an upside to this outage?

From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank whoever was behind this, whether it was Russian operatives or Al Qaeda or just good old fashioned case of people sucking at their job. Thank you. Thank you so much for this morning.

That's wonderful. It sounds like this was a transformative experience for you. How will this new outlook inform your life now that the service is back on? Troy. Troy.

Hmm? Oh, sorry. Some guy on TikTok is reviewing a fake Birkin. Idiot. All right. What's up?

Welcome back, Troy. Troy Awana, everybody. Let's move on to the presidential race and our ongoing coverage of indecidive Vision 2024. There's been a lot of talk about Nikki Haley this week and how she's staying in the race despite having worse odds than the New York Mets winning next year's Super Bowl. I have to say, I'm actually glad she's staying in the race because even if you don't agree with her politics, she still really pisses Donald Trump off. And that's a beautiful thing. She is clearly on his enemy's list, along with the law and waistbands. But she's not just the only Trump alternative in the GOP race. According to the media, she's also the only moderate one. Nikki Haley has this moderate, old-school Republicanism. She's become the candidate of the moderates. A moderate candidate like Nikki Haley, who is increasingly an outsider in the Republican Party. Yes, obviously, Nikki Haley is a moderate. It's something that everybody knows, like Joe Biden is old, or RFK is a biohazard, or Tim Scott is crying on the inside. It's just a fact that nobody disputes. But is it a fact? Is Nikki Haley the moderate in the race?

Because when you actually take a look at her policies, they aren't that different from Trump. She also wants to build the wall. She also wants mass deportations. She's also opposed to Obamacare and the Paris Climate Accords. And in fact, on abortion, she's even more extreme than Trump. She supports a national ban after six weeks before most women even know that they're pregnant. At six weeks, the symptoms are fatigue and stomach issues, and women can't take a pregnancy test every time they get bubble guts. It's not that she doesn't care about women's issues. It's that she has a very unmoderate idea of what women's issues are.

The idea that we have biological boys playing in girls' sports, it is the women's issue of our time.

Really, Nikki? That's the women's issue of our time? Not abortion access or equal pay or even how to part your hair so teens don't bully you? Never thought I'd say this, but Nikki Haley is so bad at knowing what women actually want. I think maybe her husband should order for her at restaurants. Most of her policies aren't more moderate than Trump. If you ask her, she herself doesn't identify as a moderate.

On the campaign trail, Haley has that made it very clear that she says she's not a moderate.

I have been a conservative fighter all my life. I was a Tea Party candidate when I became governor, and we passed one of the toughest illegal immigration laws in the country. We passed pro-life bills. We took on the unions, and we took on Obama when it came to the unions, the Syrian Refugees, and everything in between.

Guys, she says she's not a moderate. Believe women. So again, if she doesn't say she's a moderate and her policies aren't moderate, why is everyone calling her a moderate? I guess it could be her demeanor. She's certainly the only candidate speaking at her moderate volume. You got Trump screaming so loud, AT&T satellites are exploding. Then you got Biden at every press conference, whispering to the ghost of Christmas has. Just using a proper inside voice is going to seem like a breath of fresh air. But that can't be all of it. When it comes down to it, there's only one real difference between Nikki Haley and Donald Trump that's getting her this label.

Do I think Joe Biden is the legitimate President? Yes.

Wow, what a reasonable middle-of-the-road answer. The man who won the election, won the election. But that's where we're at. That is the big split in the Republican Party today. Do you think Joe Biden won the election, or did you take a shit on Nancy Pelosi's death? But the media is not used to discussing democracy versus fascism. They're used to discussing left versus right. So they put Donald Trump on the far right, and anybody A country who didn't storm the Capitol becomes a moderate. But that means that any Republican, no matter what their views are, gets labeled as a moderate just because they believe in democracy. Like Georgia Governor Brian Kemp. He's been called the most conservative governor in Georgia's history, but he also doesn't think the election was stolen, so now people call him a moderate. Liz Cheney, she denies climate change, she's anti-abortion, and she loves bombing other countries just as much as her dad. Yeah, she's a nepo bomber. She loves bombing other countries so much. She thought Oppenheimer was the first season of an ABC sitcom. But because she says that Trump lost, guess what she's called?

You've got Liz Cheney being a female voice in the Republican Party, demanding a more moderate approach.

The thoughtful, moderate, pro-Constitution Republicans, like Liz Cheney. You might be wondering, why does it even matter? What if the media mistakenly calls some Conservatives moderates? Sometimes I call my husband my ex-boyfriend's name. It's fine. He barely notices. He left me. But it does matter because the word moderate means much more than just believing Joe Biden won the election. Most people still think that it means not extreme or willing to compromise. So when the media attaches this label to candidates who support abortion bans and endless wars, that makes those beliefs sound moderate, but they're not. And the media should not be labeling them as moderates just because they pass the low bar of not overthrowing the government. I'm sorry. I'm sorry if I'm getting emotional about this, but I just believe that having biological Conservatives competing in moderate sports, that is the women's issue of our time. When we come back, we'll talk to Jason Iggle, so don't go away.

Mtv's official challenge podcast is back for another season.

That's right. The challenge is back, and so are we.

I'm Devon Simone.

And I'm Devon Rogers.

Now, you all know we had so much fun covering the Challenge USA one together that we thought, Why not do it again? So we are joining forces to dive into this brand new season.

Season 39, battle for a new champion. Yes.

Yes. 24 contenders will compete to win their first championship. They know the battle, but not the victory.

Oh, thank God. I am ready for a new champion, a new one. Okay, give us some fresh faces, people.

Girl, I couldn't agree more. So every week after the episode airs, come hang with us as we break down all the challenges and eliminations, and of course, get the inside scoop on all the drama.

And we got all the tea, okay? We will be joined by the cast members themselves every week, you all.

Listen to MTV's official Challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to The Daily Show.

My guest tonight is a Grammy Award-winning musician whose latest album is called Weather Veins. He can also be seen in the Oscar-nominated film, Killers of the flower moon. Please welcome Jason Invull. Oh, my goodness. Congratulations. Thank you. You got another Grammy.

I did. I got a couple this time. It was crazy.

Oh, my God. This is how many? Six? This is six. Good Lord.

Yeah.

Well deserved. Thank you. Well deserved. And not only are you an accomplished musician, but you are now an incredible actor. You were in Martin Scorsese's Killers of the Flower Moon, which has been nominated for all of the Academy Awards, and you're great in it. Now, did you find that the grind of touring and performing prepared you for the pure stamina you needed to sit through the my your movie, start to finish? Yeah.

I do really good at not peeing, and that helped a lot.

You're well-trained for it.

Yeah, it was an incredible experience to see all that go down. I didn't know why I was there.

No, don't be so much. You're incredible in the film. Well, thank you.

I do believe they didn't let me screw the movie up. No. But it took a little while for me to realize that... They had this guy who was like a dialect coach, right? All day, every day, he was working with DiCaprio and with De Niro on talking like this. I went and met with him and he said, We're just going to hang out. I don't have any notes for you. You just talk It's like you talk, and I thought, I know why I'm here. They're saving money on the dollar. There you go.

Talent and a budget cut. Two birds, one stone. It worked out. That's so funny. I also heard that an incident happened on set when you were doing a scene with Leonardo DiCaprio.

Oh, yeah, there was an incident.

There was an incident. Do you want to tell it?

I could tell you that. I would not have volunteered to tell the story, but I would love to.

No, I think we should. I have the sense of humor of a 14-year-old boy, so I would love for you to tell the story.

Perfect. We were in this very small space, and we were shooting a scene where the two of us get up in each other's face, and it's intense. We're not friends, and we're about to throw hands. It gets really serious, and We've been doing this for a couple of hours, and all of a sudden, there were like 30 crew people in the room, me and Leo. The camera was rolling, the film was happening, and all of a sudden, somebody in the crew flatulated. He She.

You said that in the most polite Southern way. He flat, she. I shouldn't assume it's a he. It could have been a she. I'm sorry. It could have been a she.

It very well could have been a she. But whoever it was, you could tell that that person had lost a great battle. Just by the sound of it. Then, of course, everybody being the best of the best Nobody did anything. Nobody would... He farted. It was like, later on, I called it a fartica situation because they were all willing to take the hit for this. But what happened was I started laughing, and DiCaprio started laughing, and I thought, Oh, great. We're doing one of those blooper reels because I've never been in a movie before. I thought, This guy farted. This is going to be great. Then he wove the laugh into his character and All of a sudden, it was Ernest laughing at Bill, and I was not Bill anymore. I was a red-neck laughing at a farting man. I realized this is why one of us has an Oscar, and the other one is about a budget for an accent.

I thought you were going to say that he rolled it into his character and he just said, Excuse me, and just went on. Now that's part of the movie.

I'm nervous. That's what my guitar player said. I'm nervous.

I'm nervous. I imagine when you're on stage performing, that if that thing happens, one of the band members farts, then you just play louder.

You do. Yeah, you do. Well, we have cues. It's hard to communicate on stage. So sometimes it's intentional. It's like, Oh, that's when we go to the drum solo.

Now, was this the first time that you ever acted before?

Really, yeah, it was. I'd done some voiceover stuff for a show called The Squidbillies, a show that I love.

That was great. Yeah, you got some fans here.

I was the youth minister on that show. I had gone to Bible school on a cheerleading scholarship. So essentially, I was just playing myself on that one. Sure. That was easy. And then I was in the Deadwood movie just standing there in the background because I just loved the show so much that they let me come stand in the background. That That was-How generous of them. It was really kind. Yeah, it was really... But this is the first time I'd actually acted like somebody other than myself or a youth minister, so it was a challenge.

You're really incredible in the movie. Is it true that you just started auditioning during some downtime during COVID when you couldn't tour?

Yeah, we were locked down, couldn't tour. I told my agent, If you can find anything where people are working safely and I can still keep me busy and do something creative. If there's a good story to tell. I got an audition. I got another audition, and I wound up on a Zoom call in my bedroom with Scorsese and De Niro, and then I got the part. Yeah, it was amazing. It was my birthday, actually. Oh, what a birthday gift.

It doesn't get any better than that. So I want to talk about weather veins. I heard that you wrote the entire album when you had downtime on set.

Is that true? Yeah, almost all of it, I did.

Now, when I have downtime on set, I play Wurtl. Yes.

I had gone through a lot of Wordle. I'd try it. Sometimes I'll try everything else except what I should be doing.

How did you do that? Do you now have a creative association with the acting process on that film and the songwriting process? Are they woven in any way?

I think so, but that was incidental, really. I didn't know until I went back and listened to the finished product of the album that I had used a lot of themes and names that happened to line up with the movie In the song Kingdom of Oklahoma, there's a Molly. That, to me, I had no idea that I was spending most of my time with Lily Gladstone, who was playing Molly, and it was just getting into my brain. One of the tricks that I have as a songwriter, as I go along, I have eliminated ways of editing myself until it's time to start editing so I don't slow myself down. If I'm writing a song, I'm not paying attention to much other than just the puzzle of making the words line up.

Do you play and write in your head at the same time, or do you write first, and then how does the process work? How do you not get in your way when you're in the creative flow?

You have to remind yourself, am I writing a song or am I editing the song? You can't do those at the same time. I can't. Some people probably can. But I'll start by repeating a phrase. I'll overhear something or I'll think of something, and it may be literally what I'm doing. I might say, There's not coffee in this.

Well, you don't have to give it away. I'm sorry they cut the budget, okay? We'll get you coffee.

Most of my songs are complaints at the end of the day. But then after a while, you just repeat it, and a melody makes itself happen, and then I'll pick up a guitar and start finding the cords. I look at it like there's a big, huge field full of rocks, and everything you need is under one of those rocks. It might be under the first rock you pick up, but you might have to pick up a million of them. But if you just keep trying things, eventually you'll get there.

I feel like I'm just a lifetime of picking up rocks. Just keep going. You have a song called Middle of the Morning, and you talk about being a strong but silent Southern man. Do you feel like the idea of what a Southern man is or Southern masculinity has evolved in your lifetime?

We're trying to evolve that, but evidence sometimes shows the contrary to be true.

How so?

Well, in my experience, we're not always the best at talking about how we feel, and that makes us not very good at dealing with our emotions. Things will come out in ways that we don't intend them to when we're not able to say, I am scared or I am sad. I don't I don't necessarily know that that's a Southern thing, but it definitely happens a lot in the South, and that's where I came from.

Do you hope that your music can act as a solve for young men to grow up and see another way of being?

I would like that. It serves a purpose for me initially, but I think if your intentions are honest and you're really trying to communicate with people, then that will happen as a byproduct of what you're doing. I do. I see a lot of big dudes crying at the shows, and it makes me really happy. It makes me really happy.

I think you're making a lot of big dudes cry out here right now.

Don't cry big dudes. You can do it. This is a safe space, big dudes.

Safe space. We can laugh, we can cry. You also are extremely outspoken when it comes to common sense gun laws and advocacy. You wrote a song on your album that's about the fear as a parent that have in this country that many of us feel sending our kids to school every day. I can't even imagine how difficult that song was to write. Was it an emotional experience for you?

It was hard. The first time I wrote it, I didn't do a very good job because I wasn't saying exactly what I wanted to say. When I rewrote it, I got closer to what I meant, and then I did it again. Finally, I was actually telling the truth. Sometimes that's the process. You want to be vague and you don't want to hit I'm going to hit the nail on the head, but this one really called for that. When I'm writing about something that heavy, I find the best way to do it for me is to go from my own personal perspective. I don't have any experience in a mass shooting situation, so I'm not going to write a song about that. But what I will write about is being at the grocery store and hearing a balloon pop. The first thing that comes into my mind is, Oh, my God, is somebody in here with a gun? I know it is extremely frustrating for a whole lot of people in this country to deal with. It's something that we shouldn't have to worry about. I think it's something that is a capitalist issue at heart.

I think all those companies that sprung up after the braided Bill was repealed are really pulling the strings right now and selling people something that they don't need so they can feel proud of something that they really shouldn't be proud of. But it's scary. Having a child It does make you think about these things more often. It won't necessarily make a good person out of you, but if you start as one, it'll make you worry a lot. That's the truth. Cheers. That's all right. I have to smell.

I have Well, you're going to say and you're going to perform for us. I am. You're going to perform a song called Cast Iron Skillet. Now, I'm from Kentucky, so I'm no stranger to Southern phrases like, Don't wash the cast iron skillet. That's why I never do the dishes. But you have a way of using these simple Southern phrases, but there's a much deeper meaning underneath. What was the inspiration behind this song?

I like to make characters and then follow them around and see what they do. When I start a song, I don't necessarily know how it's going to end. I just like to make characters that you can believe and that are honest and then see how they behave as human people would behave. Sometimes that character is the narrator because this song has two separate stories. Both of them are true, and both of them happened to people that I was close to when I was a child. The first story is about a couple of guys that I went to school with who went down a bad path, wound up murdering somebody, going to prison for the rest of their lives. Then the second part is about a relative I had who fell in love with a black man, and her dad disowned her and never spoke to her again. These things really happened, and this was the '80s and the '90s, and they still happen today. The narrator is trying to give advice, but it's not really good advice. I mean, here's the secret. You can wash the skillet. It's made of... It'll be fine. You can wash the skillet.

A lot of times I'll write a song that has some Southern words of wisdom in it, and people will say, Hey, man, that's not exactly right. I'm like, You're almost there. You're understanding the song.

I cannot wait for you to perform. I'm very excited. Everyone here is very excited. Weather Vains is available now, and Killers of the Flower Moon is streaming globally on Apple TV+.

Mtv's official Challenge podcast is back for another season.

That's right. The challenge is back, and so are we.

I'm Devon Simone.

And I'm Devon Rogers.

Now, you all know we had so much fun covering the Challenge USA one together that we thought, why not do it again? So we are joining forces to dive into this brand new season.

Season 39, battle for a new champion. Yes.

Yes. 24 contenders will compete to win their first championship. They know the battle, but not the victory.

Oh, thank God. I am ready for a new champion, a new one. Okay, give us some fresh faces, people.

Girl, I couldn't agree more. So every week after the episode airs, come hang with us as we break down all the challenges and eliminations, and of course, get the inside scoop on all the drama.

And we got all the tea, okay? We will be joined by the cast members themselves every week, you all.

Listen to MTV's official Challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. That's our show for tonight. Now, here it is.

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I'm Jeff Prope, Host and Showrunner of Survivor. Last season in On Fire, the official Survivor podcast, we gave you the producer's point of view of how survivor works. This season, we're adding an all new twist. We're going to add in the player's point of view, which means we have a new member of the tribe joining us. Welcome, survivor38, Edge of Extinction Castaway, Rick Devons.

Thank you, Jeff. I am so excited to be here. Each week, our producer Jay and I will take you through the key moments, the edge of your seat turning points of survivor 45. We'll dissect these from the player's mindset, and we'll be circling in on questions we have about the producer's choices.

So I'll answer those questions and give you the how and the why from the producer's point of view. So this season, you're getting the fan, the player, and the producer's point of view. There is no other podcast doing this.

It's why On Fire is the only official survivor podcast.

Listen to On Fire, the official survivor podcast on Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.