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I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I'm host of Amicus, Slate's podcast about the law and the US Supreme Court. We are shifting into high gear, coming at you weekly with the context you need to understand the rapidly changing legal landscape. The many trials of Donald J. Trump, judicial ethics, arguments and opinions at SCOTUS. We are tackling the big legal news with clarity and insight every single week. New Amicus episodes every Saturday, wherever you listen.

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We've got a great show for you tonight. Donald Trump finally made some Black friends. Joe Biden has his hand up, Cookie Monster's ass, and Jordan Klepper talks to the last Nikki Haley fan. So let's get right into our ongoing coverage of Indecision 2024. Let's kick things off with the race to control the Senate, one of the tightest races in Arizona. And although we don't know who's going to win, we already know who's going to lose.

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Breaking news from the nation's capital.

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Independent Senator Kirsten Sinema of Arizona announcing she will not run for re-election.

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Polling in the last months has showed her, with support of just 15 to 25% losing two Diego and Carrie Lake. She met the ire of great many Democrats around the country refusing to pass a bill of Buster reform that would have allowed for the protection of abortion around the country and to codify Roe v Wade. In 2022, Sinema blocked a critical spending bill to protect a tax break for the ultra wealthy.

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That's right, Senator Kirsten. Sinema is stepping down to spend more time with her family, Goldman and Sachs. I love how she says she's not running for re-election in Arizona. It's her No worries. Totally not because you're going to get your ass kicked. That's like me saying, Hey, guys, I'm not going to be Q-being for the Patriots this year. Guess what? Nobody offered. It's also funny how people usually like independence in this very tribal political climate. You have to be a real shitty politician if you're independent and everybody hates you. Me personally, I actually like that Kirsten Sinema taught everyone a very important lesson that you can't assume someone's beliefs based on how they dress. She came on the scene like, Hey, everyone, look at my pink tutu. You know I'm liberal. And then she walked into the Senate like, Private equity gets everything. Drill those orphans for oil. But let's move on to the presidential race. The voters, the politicians, never forget every time they need to win an election, African-Americans, a. K. A. Black people. In 2020, Trump only got 12% of the Black vote, but this year, polls show that he could double that number.

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Now, there might be a way for him to win over Black voters without actually having to meet any.

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There are growing concerns about the way artificial intelligence could be used to mislead voters ahead of this year's US election. It's emerged that some supporters of the former President, Donald Trump, are creating and sharing fake images of him with Black people to encourage African-Americans to back him in November's election. At first glance, this photo looks real.

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Only it's not. It was generated using AI technology Eiji.

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The image was generated by Trump supporters using AI to target Black voters. But this picture has been viewed more than 1 million times.

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Wow, it took the most cutting-eggs technology to get Trump to hang out with six Black guys. This is outrageous. You're telling me I've been wasting my time building real friendships with black people, AKA African-Americans, when the whole time I could have just used AI and gotten the same number of likes? But seriously, I can't believe these photos would actually swing some votes. I mean, if we're going to be this easily manipulated by AI, let's just let AI vote for us instead. I mean, at this point, we need to be smarter. I mean, I'm not going to vote for Trump just because I saw a picture of him with a bunch of Asian guys. Although, I mean, they do look like they're having fun. I wonder what they're talking about. Dan, maybe it does help a little. But still, I know people are worried about misinformation, but it's pretty easy to tell if a picture of Donald Trump is AI-generated. Okay, here's the trick. If Donald Trump is in a picture and looks completely insane, then it's a real picture. Like, look at this picture. Trump hanging out with black guys. This is AI because it's too normal to be real.

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But now this photo of him with black people, this is weird. That's how you know it's real. Is that confusing? All right, okay, how about this one? Trump with black people having a good time at a party. It's a pretty normal human activity. Therefore, this is AI. But Kanye in the Oval Office shoving his phone into Trump's face. What the fuck is even happening here? This is too insane to be real, and that's how you know it's real. There's also other tales, like check the skin tone. Does his face look like a normal human? Then it's probably AI. Does his face look like a dish sponge after a chili night? Then it's real. So that's the rule. Is he smiling in front of 3,000 hamburgers? Is he staring directly into a solar eclipse? Is he touching a glowing orb with Middle East dictators? Then it's real. I hope that clarifies That stinks. But while Donald Trump is trying to get the vote of Black people, Joe Biden is trying to get the vote of cheap people. I mean, have you been to a grocery store lately and noticed your bag of chips has had two fewer chips than it used to?

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Well, Joe Biden has noticed.

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Shrinkflation is just one of the pocketbook issues that could find its way into the State of the Union address on Thursday. Today, the White House is announcing a new strike force tasked with cracking down on price gouging, and everything from groceries to prescription drugs is on the list. Shrinkflation is when companies make the size of their products smaller without cutting prices. The size of some Oreo cookies has decreased by 6% since 2019, and a family size of wheat thins has dropped 12% in weight. Even some Charmin toilet paper rolls now have 20 fewer sheets.

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Guys, okay, boo. Hey, listen, this is such an American crisis, okay? Oh, no, my Costco sac of Oreos only has 15 pounds instead of 16. And now when I shit my pants, there's enough toilet paper to clean my fat ass. Yeah, you know Guys, you know what's not string-flailing? It's celery. Okay, maybe you should try it sometime. By the way, if we're going to complain about toilet paper, let's talk about how every time I buy the toilet paper, it's like, Hey, there's eight rolls, but they're mega, so it's 10 rolls, but really, it's actually eight rolls again. Just tell me how many roles there are and start making me do math at CVS. Look, I do think it's a good political issue for Joe Biden to focus on because do you really think Americans will go to the polls to protect democracy? Hell, no. But if you promise to restore the number of sprinkles on their pop tarts, record turnout. Luckily for Joe Biden, he's now getting help from an ally who speaks to young voters, and I mean, really young voters.

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This morning, the Cookie Monster has had enough. Chocolate chip cookie, important to me, too. His beef with shrinkflation is getting attention on Capitol Hill after he posted, Me hate shrinkflation. Me cookies are getting smaller.

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Okay, you know what? There's a real death of expertise in this country, so I can appreciate when we can hear from someone who knows what he's talking about. All right? For more on Cookie Monster, speaking out, we go live to Sesame Street to our newest member of the Daily Show news team, Josh Johnson, everybody. Josh, what do you think about Cookie Monster's battle with shrinkflation?

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What do I think? I think Cookie Monster is being a little blue bitch. Why does he care about the price of cookies? Have you seen the way he eats them? Half of them end up on the floor. If the cookies were smaller, maybe they managed to get into his mouth.

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Me no like inflation.

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Stop talking like that. You live on Sesame Street. How are you still doing remedial English?

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Okay. Josh, look, I love hating stuff, too, but aren't you being a little too hard on Mr. Monster? He's trying to fight shrinkflation.

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Oh, you're telling me that Cookie Monster just brought up shrinkflation the same week as Biden on his own? The only words I've ever heard Cookie Monster say are me and Cookie. Who taught him shrinkflation? I don't want to start any rumors, but I'm starting to think Cookie Monster is just a puppet.

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Okay. Look, that's crazy talk, Jos. Start with the conspiracy theories. Whether he is or not, shrinkflation is real. It's not just cookies. It's chips, soda, toilet paper.

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Explain to me why Cookie Monster cares about toilet paper.

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He doesn't have a digestive system.

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He's never taken a shit in his life. He doesn't know the pain of sitting on a toilet with a stomach full of lamb curry running out of paper and having to sidestep your way out doing the pants around the ankle waddle like you robbing your own house. Only for your girlfriend to walk in, see you, then immediately walk out. Do you have to deal with that, Mr. Cookie Monster? Because me did. Me very much did.

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Yeah, but why didn't you just take off your pants completely? You know what? No, I don't mind. I think it's great that Cookie Monster is bringing attention to an actual problem here, okay?

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It's not even the biggest problem on Sesame Street. Oscar is still homeless. Trump's about to deport Rosita and snuff a Bucal... He and a gang. I'm not going to lie, Ryan, it's pretty messed up that you sent me here. All right? I saw Elmo selling tickles for $5 outside Big Bird nest. No one here is doing well.

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All right, Josh, let's get you out of there.

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Hey, hold up.

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Hold up.

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Do you have $5? No, no.

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Josh Johnson, everybody. When we come back, Yuval Noah Harari will be joining me, so don't go around.

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I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I'm host of Amicus, Slate's podcast about the law and the US Supreme Court. We are shifting into high gear, coming at you weekly with the context you need to understand the rapidly changing legal landscape, the many trials of Donald J. Trump, judicial ethics, arguments and opinions at SCOTUS. We are tackling the big legal news with clarity and insight every single week. New Amicus episodes every Saturday, wherever you listen.

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Welcome back to The Daily Show. Today is Super Tuesday. Hooray, I guess. This Super Tuesday, we all know what's going to happen. Trump's going to win, Biden's going to win. I'm going to eat a tub of ice cream and hate myself afterwards. Just a normal Tuesday. The only question is, who will Nikki Haley supporters vote for after she drops out? Jordan Klepper went to find out in another installment of Fingers the Pulse.

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The general election candidates seem all but settled, but Nikki Haley has run a strong campaign. So what will her supporters do if she drops out? I went to North Carolina to one of her Super Tuesday rallies held in a quaint train station to find out. I was a Trump voter in 2016, not 2020. And so I'm ready to stop him. I'd like to make him sweat. How do you make Donald Trump sweat? I think probably a walk down the stairs will do it. Yeah, I have no idea. If Nikki Haley drops out after Super Tuesday. She's not going to. She's not going to? No. You're defiant. She's not going to. Even if she doesn't have the number, she shouldn't drop out. No, no. You sound like a Republican. You're just not going to accept any election results. That's right. Of course, they'd love to keep going. Odly enough, they seemed as anti-maga as the tiny crowds at a Biden rally. Mr. Trump would sell his own grandmother if he could for a profit. First off, I don't think he can win, period. I honestly don't. And even if he does, guess what? The country loses because he's out of control.

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He's chaos. He's going to be working on his court cases for the whole time. After January sixth and all that, I'm like, there's no way I could ever vote for him again. You still think insurrection? Oh, yeah. And just to be clear, insurrection bad? Yes. Okay. This is good to know. I'm trying to feel out the electorate here. That's good. Here was a group of Republicans who don't like Trump, a not insignificant number of voters who could be decisive in the general election. It was finally time to ask the difficult question. If Haley doesn't go past Super Tuesday, who do you plan on voting if it's Trump versus Biden? First, I'm going to have a cry. Then I'm going to have a beer, and then I'm going to have a beer, and then I'm going to have to pray. And if Nikki Haley isn't in the race? I'm so sad.

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I voted for Trump twice. I will not.

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I can't say I won't vote for him. Oh, my God, don't put me in that position where I have to pick between him or Biden. If it's not Haley in the general election, It's really tough. At the end of the day, if I'm forced to, it's going to be really hard. I mean, it's just hold my nose, close my eyes, and-Cry me up. You're still not sure if you had to vote Biden-Trump. You're still like, Would you rather have rat poison or what was the other thing that the people did in Arizona? The fish tank cleaner? Rat poison versus the fish tank cleaner? Yeah. Isn't it horrible? Let's say Nikki Haley doesn't get past Super Tuesday. It's Biden and it's Trump. Where's your head at?

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I just think both of them are too old. We shouldn't be voting for octogenarians at this point.

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Gosh, I don't know. Let me try some more of them. Give me some more of them. To get you in the making a decision. Pizza burgers. I'll go pizza. Great. Alien Predator.

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Alien.

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Barbi Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer. Trump Biden.

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I must say Biden.

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Wow. Some are ready to turn the page on Maga, while others are still working through some things. Do you feel Donald Trump poses an existential threat to American democracy? I really do. You do? I do. You're like, Donald Trump, I'm done with him? No, done. Yeah. Completely done with Donald Trump? Completely done. Well, hypothetically, if it is Biden versus Trump, who do you support? It's really going to be a toss up for me because it'll be Trump. But I'd rather just almost not vote, but I will. I mean- And it'll be Trump? I think so. That guy you just said you were done with? Well- You're struggling. I'm just trying to be nice. Why can't you be done with Donald Trump? It's just... And sex cases and all the... I mean, come on, just the fact that you have all the criminal stuff. It's insane. It is insane. No one should support him for president. No. Yes. But if it's him versus Biden, you will support him for president. I think so, yeah. The process of soul searching can be agonizing for these never, well, maybe just for a third time, Trumpers. But maybe the pain is a sign of growth.

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Do you think Trump poses an existential threat to the American way of life? I think Trump will sell Ukraine to Putin.

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It's a threat to global security.

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To me, it's a big issue. If we get to the place where it's just Trump versus Biden, who do you support? Well, I don't want to vote for either one of those characters. I mean, one person you just described as an existential threat to global security. Yeah. But even with that, voting for an old man is too much? That's for voting for nothing. Yeah. I mean, global security risk or nothing. I'm not saying those are great options, but I'm also saying that's not a hard decision. That's a hard decision to me. It is. You could feel nothing. Okay. It'd be nice to feel something inside. Or you could feel getting punched in the nuts. If you had to choose feeling nothing or punched in the nuts, it feels like a no-brainer. At least if you get punched in the nuts, you can fight back. You're still there. Trump 2024, it's like a punch in the nuts. At least you'll feel something. Yeah.

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Thank you, Jordan. When we come back, you, about Noah Harari will be joining on the show Don't go away.

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I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I'm host of Amicus, Slate's podcast about the law and the US Supreme Court. We are shifting into high gear, coming at you weekly with the context you need to understand the rapidly changing legal landscape, the many trials of Donald J. Trump, judicial ethics, arguments and opinions at SCOTUS. We are tackling the big legal news with clarity and insight every single week. New Amicus episodes every Saturday, wherever you listen.

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Welcome back to The Daily Show. My guest tonight is a historian, philosopher, and best-selling author of Sapiens. His latest children's book is called Unstoppable Us, Volume 2: Why the World Isn't Fair. Please welcome Yuval Noah Harari. Thank you, All right, Yuval. Thanks for joining me.I'm pleased to be here.I've been watching your stuff for over 10 years, since before I came to America. I love it. You specialize in dealing with the history of humanity and the rise and falls of civilisation. What made you think that was an appropriate topic for children? This is some pretty heavy stuff, man.

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Yes, but you need to understand history to know even the most basic things about yourself. When I was a kid, I often woke up in the middle of the night afraid of the monster under the bed, which happens to a lot of children. You call your mom, but you also want to know why is it happening? History actually holds the answer.

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What is the answer?

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Because this is really a memory from hundreds of thousands of years ago when humans lived in the Savannah and there are actually monsters, cheetahs, lions that came to eat kids in the middle of the night.

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Okay, so is that something you want kids to know? Yes. That these monsters were once real and they killed kids in their sleeve?

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It's important to know that because you then understand your own emotions and feelings better. You understand that I'm not crazy to be afraid of these things. Or for instance, lots of kids, like adults, they wonder, Why do I like to eat so much stuff that isn't good for me? Is something wrong with my body. Again, history holds the answer. What is the answer? Because all those hundreds of thousands of years ago, it actually made sense. If you walk along the Savannah and you find something sweet, like sweet fruits, it makes sense to eat as much of it as quickly as possible. Because if you eat just one or two fruits and go away, by the time you come back, the baboons ate everything. So it makes sense under those conditions. Now, today, it It doesn't make sense when you open the refrigerator and find a chocolate cake to eat all of it. But your body doesn't know. Your body basically follows the program of evolution from all those years ago.

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Yeah, it's program. If you can't do anything, stop it. What are you telling people?

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You can stop it, but understanding yourself better is an important step to having greater control of your life.

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Those are good examples, but I'm going to quote your book here. Yes. Please. Let's get Let me get to the chapter in this children's book called Diarrheia Days, where I quote, Someone who got diarrhea couldn't keep down any food or water, and sometimes they died from it. Is this something you really want kids to know?

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Yes, because it actually explains where most of the epidemics and infectious diseases came from. Hunter-gatherers suffered from no epidemics. They lived in very small bands. If somebody had diarrhea, then immediately all the band moved to another place. In any case, only a few people could get it. But once people switched to agriculture and we had the big agriculture revolution, then you have thousands of people stuck permanently in the town.

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The first humans ate a lot of berries and shed their pants and moved on. How do you tell that to kids, though? What's your approach to telling... How do you even... Everything you just told me as an adult, I'm fascinated by. But when you tell a kid, they're like, Okay, give me more berries. You know what I mean? How do they absorb the lesson you're trying to tell them?

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I hope that it's written in such a way that even somebody who is eight or nine is fully capable of understanding it. It's actually more difficult to write for kids than for adults. I agree. Because with adults, if you don't know something, you just use these complicated words and long sentences, and they think they don't understand you because they don't understand. With kids, you have to speak very simply.

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Yeah, like sometimes we died from diarrhea. Yeah. See, so this is what I think. This is what I think. I think you've written Sapiens before, which is a great book for adults. I think that there's too many dumb people who couldn't understand what you're saying. So you wrote this... Not for kids. You wrote this for dumb adults. That's really what this is. This is a book You took your thing, you put some pictures in it. See, there's an illustration of someone dying from diarrhea. This isn't from kids. This is for dumb adults, right?

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That's one explanation.

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I feel like a lot of what you're telling us is the message of what history is trying to tell us now. I feel like that's what you're trying to decode right now, a lot of it. I guess what is the message that history is trying to tell us now?

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Many messages. I mean, one thing is to beware of unintended consequences of what we do. Like, again, the agriculture revolution, people thought it was a good idea. It brought about epidemics. So same lesson for the big revolutions of right now, like AI. The more important message is that the world in which we live have been created by humans, and therefore humans can change it. If something is unfair, it's not the laws of nature that created our economy, our nations, our religions. They're all created by human beings.

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Right. Yeah, you see, it sounds hopeful, but you think about it, you're Oh, no, humans did all this.What hope do we have?Who else? No, I know, but what hope do we have of changing things? I guess what I'm saying is how much of this is inevitable. When you study history, you go-No, history is never deterministic.

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You When you're thinking about technology. Every technology can be used to create very different societies. You think about, I don't know, North Korea and South Korea. Exactly the same technology. But they use electricity in a slightly different way. One place, they produce K-pop, and just up north, big hats and missiles.

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Okay. Am I supposed to just take that? Okay, fine.

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No, but on the most serious level, again, people have a lot of fears about technology, what it will do to our politics. But then you think about South Korea and North Korea. So same people, same history, same technology. You have a liberal democracy on one side and a totalitarian regime on the other. So it's not the technology that is shaping our politics or our regimes. It is what we decide to do with the technology. Sure.

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Well, you say that we are in charge of the technology in a way. But one of the thesis statements of your book is that we're all going to get replaced by technological beings.

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If we make the wrong decisions. Again, it's not inevitable. Ai, like electricity, like the earliest, I don't know, writing, when people invented writing. You can do many things with the technology of writing. You can write poetry, you can write taxes.

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You can write... You can say, Fuck you as well. You can write like a...

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You can. But it's a choice of people. Actually, interestingly enough, the first person that we know his name, he was not a conqueror. He was not a big prophet or king. He was a geek. He was an accountant. We have these clay tablets from ancient Mesopotamia with accounts of payments and receipts and salaries and stuff like that signed by these ancient geeks, and they are the first people.

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You keep calling these people geeks, and I'm like, Do you like them or you don't like them? I don't know. Are they good or are they bad?

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They're good. I mean, Jesus said the geek will inherit the Earth, no? All right.

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So back on that topic, so you keep saying stories are the superpower of humans in a way, right? Everything we do, if you think about it, from culture to politics to even money.

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Yeah, money is the greatest story ever told. It's the only story everybody believes. When you look at it, it has no value in itself. The value comes only from the stories we tell about it. As every cryptocurrency guru or Bitcoin enthusiast, no, it's all about the stories. There is nothing else. It's just a story.

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Okay, so is it real? Is you're telling me you invest in Bitcoin right now? I don't know what you're doing. Is it a good thing or bad thing?

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It's It's a cyclical thing. If enough people believe in it, then you can go to the supermarket and buy whatever you want. If people lose faith in the story, then it's worth nothing. And that's true of the Bitcoin, it's true of the dollar, and of every other currency that people ever invented.

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Okay, you see, when you talk about these things, you're always very objective. You always be like, Hey, man, I'm just telling you how it is. What do you think? What makes you go, this? Because when you talk about history, you're always like, The humans came out and then some of them ate berries. You maintain this academic objectivity. That's the idea. Yeah, but what actually do you go, this shit? This is awful. What makes you go... Because you seem to be okay with everything. You're like, Yeah, machines come. It's a tool. We don't know. You go like, AI, this is bad. What makes you go, no?

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The question about every story, whether about money, AI, whatever, is whether it increases or decreases the suffering in the world.

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Yeah, you see, this is a non-answer. Just tell me what you hate. Tell me what you hate.What I hate?Yeah. Okay, can we tell this right now? You think that you're openly atheist? Yes. Can you clarify right now that God is just made up? Yes. God is made... We had it here? God Can you sit into a camera, please? We need that.Humans.

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Created God.Okay, great.

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We settled it. That's great. This guy, we solved it.

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Again, it should be emphasized just because human created it doesn't mean it's bad. It can also do good things for us.

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Stop hedging this. Just let it ride. Just go, This sucks. See, this is my problem. I think we need more people with objectivity, calmly discussing things. I don't think that's... Is anything in what you've seen with humanity telling you that we can pull ourselves out of all these downslides in history?

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Absolutely. I mean, humans have... I mean, all the problems we face, we also have the resources to deal with them. Whether it's climate change, whether it's the rise of AI, we have the resources. What we usually lack is the motivation and the ability to cooperate with one another. But some people think that to solve the big problems, you always need to use violence. You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs. But when you look at history, it's absolutely not true. You think, for instance, about the feminist revolution. After thousands of years of a huge injustice, feminism made a huge change in the social structure of humanity without starting any wars, without assassinating anybody, no guillotines in city square. That's one of the hopeful examples of how people can, just by changing the story, also change the world. The idea that stories I think you're converting people to your religion right now. The idea that the stories fuel history, there is a positive promise there that if it's all about power, the only way to change power structures is with violence. But if it's really, at least in part, about the stories people believe, then potentially by talking with people and changing the stories in which they believe, you can change the world.

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Okay, that's very optimistic. I'm not hopeful. So I mean, one last question. One thing I really enjoy by your work is that you like to tie current modern behavior to our evolutionary beginnings. For example, like you said, we wake up in the middle of the night when we were kids because we ran from actual monsters when we were children. So I just like to know, why is it that whenever I pee, I shiver? What was the evolutionary reason? Maybe you should ask a doctor.

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I'm not sure.

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No, I'm asking you, Mr. I'm not an expert.

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I'm not an expert on everything.

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The last thing I found very interesting is you said that right now we have humans composing things and AI amplifying it. That's our current situation. You say in the future, we're going to have AI composing things and amplifying it.

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The images you saw before of AI generating fake images? Yes. This is basically a art. It's still the first steps. But AI is still a baby. It's like 10 years since the start of the major AI revolution. We haven't seen anything yet. It is very likely that in a couple of years or decades, much of art, many of the stories we believe, even religion, will be increasingly created by this alien intelligence and not by human intelligence.

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Okay, see, that's a bad thing. Well, you just said that. That's not good.

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That's a very dangerous thing. Yes, absolutely.

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Okay, so are you going to say, Fuck that? Can you at least say, that's bad? Yeah, that's bad. Okay, good. I finally got him to say something bad. Okay, I don't know. I guess I'm equal parts hopeful and pessimistic about the future. I'm sorry.

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That's a good stance.

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Yeah, it's a balanced stance. All right. Thank you so much for speaking to me. Unstoppable Us volume 2 is available now. Yuval Noah Harari, everybody. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be back after this.

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I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I'm host of Amicus, Slate's podcast about the law and the US Supreme Court. We are shifting into high gear, coming at you weekly with the context you need to understand the rapidly changing legal landscape, the many trials of Donald J. Trump, judicial ethics, arguments and opinions at SCOTUS. We are tackling the big legal news with clarity and insight every single week. New Amicus episodes every Saturday, wherever you listen. Hi.

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I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I'm host of Amicus, Slate's podcast about the law and the US Supreme Court. We are shifting into high gear, coming at you weekly with the context you need to understand the rapidly changing legal landscape, the many trials of Donald J. Trump, judicial ethics, arguments and opinions at SCOTUS. We are tackling the big legal news with clarity and insight every single week. New Amicus episodes every Saturday, wherever you listen.