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Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah. Today is Thursday, the twenty ninth of October, which means if you live in Oklahoma. Early voting starts today, so go vote. Remember, it's the Oklahoma Sooners, not the Oklahoma ladies. Anyway, coming up on tonight's show, Why Black Votes Matter, Jordan Klepper talks to Trump supporters. And vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris is joining us on the show.

So let's do this, people.

Welcome to the daily social distancing show from Trevor's coach in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world. This is the Daily Social Decency Show with driven years A. Let's kick it off with the coronavirus. It's the reason people hit the ground whenever you sneeze with cold weather arriving, many places in the world that had largely gotten the pandemic under control are now seeing alarming new spikes. France has just hit a record fifty two thousand new daily cases, while Germany, so a record high of sixteen thousand cases.

And now because of that and increasing hospitalizations, both countries are instituting new lockdowns. The last time Europe was this panicked about an existential threat, it had a little mustache. Shit is no joke. But while Europe is trying to limit public gatherings, the Corona in chief Donald Trump is going around his country holding as many super spreader event rallies as he can. He's even changed the crowd chant from lock her up to lick your hands. Now, other people's hands, all the hands.

But remember, the presidential race isn't the only one that will be decided next week. Republicans are trying desperately to hold onto the Senate. And one seat that they'll need to keep red is in Arizona, where Republican incumbent Martha McSally is in a tough race against Mark Kelly, who's a former astronaut, which must be really tough because every political catchphrase sounds way more impressive when you can ended with in space. You know, the other day I was thinking about this great country of ours in space, safe space.

Now, McSally is one of Trump's biggest supporters. So when Trump came to a rally in Arizona, it should have been a big moment for her. One thing we know about Trump is he really doesn't like to share his stage.

I want to show you Trump today with Martha McSally.

And as folks watch this, remember, this is a woman who has signed over, as have many members of the US Senate, her political life to Trump and Trump ism. She is fighting for her political life in return for this month to come up, just as Kweskin.

That's come on quick, you got one minute, one minute by the. They don't want to hear this, Martha. Come on, let's go. Quick, quick, quick, quick. Come on, let's go. Hey, I've come in. Thank you. You know, this is so funny.

Trump needs McSally to win so he can keep the Senate, but he's treating her like like he's a mole Santa who's late for his smoke break and he's being irritated by a little kid.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, kid. Whatever. Whatever. Yeah, I'll give you a truck. Get out of here. Go. I just love how Trump cannot share the spotlight. Even for a second. Even for a second. He wants it all for himself. He would be terrible to do it with a karaoke. OK, I'll sing Brandy and Monika's parts and you can sing the rest. But this song is only Brandy and Monica.

No one wants to hear from you, Martha. You name your game. It had about enough, is not she?

Who was made and by the way, all this campaigning doesn't come cheap. Did you know that with the congressional and presidential elections combined, the twenty twenty elections are expected to cost 14 billion dollars, twice the cost of twenty 16 or 18 billion? That's almost the combined age of both candidates. I mean, do you have any idea how much money that is? If you gave me 14 billion dollars, I would be a billionaire. And what's crazy is they spend all this money to get elected.

And then when you're like, OK, I voted for you. Can I get free health care? Then be like, sorry, this new money, we spent it on ads that she was crazy about because there's still a week until the election. The candidates are still scavenging for people's votes like political raccoons.

And just like in every other election year, now that we're one week away from the election, black people are back in style.

Black voters could tip the scales in this election. And right now there are signs that turnout among this key voting bloc could rival what we saw in 2008 with Barack Obama. At the top of the ticket, black voter saw about seven hundred and fifty thousand early votes at this point and 16 now approaching two million.

When you look at some of those states that back in twenty sixteen that were decided by a less than two percent margin, black voters in particular could make the difference in twenty twenty.

Donald Trump won the Electoral College by 80000 votes. Black turnout had been at Barack Obama levels in 2016. We'd be talking about Hillary Clinton's reelection.

OK, can I just say, I think it's a little much to expect black voters to turn out for any candidate like they did for Barack Obama. It's like being shocked that more black people went to a Megamix Stallion concert than to see Katy Perry. I mean, usually the only black people have a Katy Perry show are the ones who thought that she was related to Tyler Perry.

Is this another Madea character? I didn't know Madea did white girls.

But even so, this is a huge turnout. Two million early black votes. That's why I said early.

So I don't want to hear another joke about black people being late ever again.

And wouldn't it be poetic if the black vote swung this election? Because given Trump's history of discriminating against black tenants, black people kicking him out of a house who will be sweet? And by the way, I know the media is just trying to say that the black vote is important, but the implication is always that it's black voters fault when shit goes wrong. You know, if just a small percent of black people had voted differently, Trump wouldn't have won.

Yeah, but if an even smaller percentage of all white people had voted differently, Trump wouldn't have won either.

No one ever talks about that. It's almost like everyone's like, well, white people, of course, they're going to make bad choices. But black people, you should know better. So with the black vote as important as ever, both sides are trying to tailor their messages with hopes of resonating with black voters.

This year, the number of eligible black voters has hit an all time high, with both sides scrambling for their support.

The Trump campaign releasing a new ad highlighting support from black voters in 2016.

I made you a solemn promise.

I will be your greatest champion with a Biden campaign has launched a Barbershop style series to engage black men.

Trump, in an effort to court black voters, is releasing what he's calling his platinum plan.

The Biden Harris campaign has done something we've never seen in presidential politics before. A campaign ad that is just battle rabbit. Biden and Harris planning to put 70 billion to the to BCU with Trump attempted to do. They plan to double that. And as far as the rich and poor with schools, the whole goal is to end the funding gap. That sounds legit.

Only if our president now would quit.

Wow. I've never seen a rap battle where both people lost. It almost felt like those guys were in a battle against rap. It's honestly too bad Tupac is still alive because he just killed himself. And, you know, I love seeing how both the white candidates think black people want to be spoken to. Trump is like, I know black people. You guys want the platinum plan, yo yo. And Biden is like, let me talk to you all at the barbershop, my man.

The ideas that they have about black people are so ridiculous. I was literally laughing about this with my friends at the barbershop.

I mean, if these guys are going to have rap battles, I want to have some random guys where I want to see Trump and Biden doing it themselves. That's interesting. I want Trump just spitting his truth like I'm the G, the man of the hour and you know much about white power. And then Biden comes in like I grew up in Delaware. I'm a simple man. But what's up with Trump? Come on, man. Come on.

This is malarkey because, you know, we think this is normal.

But you notice we'll never see this kind of pandering in reverse. But, yeah, Obama courted the white vote, but he never came out with a moonshine jug like.

Right. Everybody, I'm going to sing you a song about the Southland.

Whoo! Whoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo.

So there's been a lot of focus on the black vote this year and this one specific demographic within the black vote that's gotten a lot of extra attention.

President Trump's poll numbers are increasingly rising among black men. The latest polling from Pew shows black men are almost twice as likely to support Trump as black women. Polling shows 18 percent of black men under 50 support Trump's reelection. And that is an opportunity for the Trump campaign and a potential liability for the Biden campaign, which needs strong black turnout to win in places like Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. That's right.

No one is surprised that Trump has got fewer black women than every season of The Bachelor combined. But some people are surprised that he's doing better with black men, which is strange. It's like hearing that the Titanic iceberg has some support among survivors. Now, of course, the obvious question on many people's minds is why? Why are black men more likely to support Trump than black women? Well, to get to the bottom of this phenomenon, we turn to a black man, our very own wood junior.

What's going on, Roy?

What's going on? So. What do you think is behind Trump's appeal to black men? Well, first off, you need to twist how you spin in this. 90 percent of black men aren't voting for Trump. So let's just say that off the top, really, if you want to be funky about the people that's really supporting Trump, a white man like saying it like that would be like for all the crazy stuff that's happening in the Trump administration, you just blame it all on Ben Carson and Ben Carson.

Is he there? Technically, yes. But is that really where all the problems are coming from?

Oh, you know, actually, Roy, that's a really good point. People don't focus on the 90 percent of black men. They focus on that group. But the fact remains, some black men are voting for Trump.

Yeah, there's always some black people doing it the same way as some white people who can dance on beat. It's always going to be outliers, Malcolm. Yeah, right.

I hear you. I hear you. But I think the interesting thing here is that Trump is doing better with black men than previous Republicans did. I mean, like, why do you think that is is kind of complicated Serengeti.

Here's the thing is that when you look at black men and why they're voting for Trump, some of them are just straight up Republicans. They and they just don't want to pay taxes, which I guess you don't want to pay taxes because you don't care about taxes. Some of your taxes go to pay for the times that you get hit upside the head with. That's messed up. I want more paychecks. And then you have black men that are just straight up just anti-immigration.

They think immigrants are coming over here to take their jobs. So a vote for Trump is a vote against that, which I get. OK, fine. But if you're asking me the reason why I really think black men might really identify with Trump, it's because low key Trump is a rapper. He's a rapper. But think about it, Trump. Talk about all the money he got, but he broke all his friends in jail and he's got beef with everybody.

Yesterday, a rapper man worried about an East Coast West Coast beat. Now, Donald Trump will, you know, beef with the whole globe to global hip. Why do you think you start the space for. So you go to shoot at.

OK. Actually, I actually see with Trayvon, but Trump, the person has done some bad shit to black people like his family, discriminating against black tenants or the way he went off to the Central Park five.

Yeah, but Trevor, what white candidate is there that has a healthy history with black man? You got Hillary with the with the super predator. You got Joe Biden with crime Bill. You had the one who the one with the Jerrica that was the president had the Jerry Curl, the Millard Fillmore. They all had damage histories with black people. If you told black people not to vote for a white candidate because they got a weird history with black man, people would just never vote.

That's why you got to vote for the candidate with the most black friends. So they think we'll be keeping track of that stuff. We do. We know which white people got black friends.

So wait, what you're saying is just like everyone else, black people vote for candidates who have the best chance to move them forward. And some black men think that Trump is that candidate.

Exactly. We're not a monolithic white people.

I don't want to get to fight with their relatives at Thanksgiving or excuse me, second, somebody for the Trump campaign if you come from a vote.

Yeah, yeah. All right, have fun, Roy Roy, would you and everyone. All right, when we come back. Jordan Klepper attends his final Trump rally of the twenty twenty election. And Kamala Harris is joining us on the show.

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Listen with headphones or air pods, one story each night starting October 19th and ending on Halloween, brahmi heart radio and Blumhouse Television listen to Aaron Manches, 13 days of Halloween on the I Heart radio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show, this is the final week of Donald Trump's campaign rallies. So we thought, let's send Jordan Klepper out for one more ride on the Trump train in another episode of Fingers The Pulse.

After an historic 227 year campaign, I found myself at another Trump rally, one of three he was having in Pennsylvania that very day. And while there was still some of the usual totally realistic expectations, I'm calling forty seven states the Trump at this rally in the final week of election season, I noticed something different.

It was quiet, but people just tired.

You know, I think people I think people are exhausted. Me, too. And I'm ready to move on.

I've been to a lot of Trump rallies before, and I have to say this is probably the most subdued rally I've been to. It's eerily quiet. You can hear a kuhnen push notification ding in someone's pocket.

This was a chance to hear Trump make his final case. And frankly, for my country to do the same talk about the economy, he provided jobs.

And when people are working and not out looting and burning cities, historically, this presidency has lost more jobs than any other country. That's not true. He hasn't. He has. I feel like I need my heat. I think, in fact, what's on the factsheet, I'm afraid the fact is that in my car we have not had a factsheet before. This is really Brigg. I'm bringing it. I hope it doesn't have a list of all the dead, because I think it's going to be huge.

OK, jobs added four million under Biden and Obama, negative two point one. What is the website? I don't know. So you don't have to Google it.

OK, so her friend didn't have the facts, but she did have the Zinfandel.

Let's talk about African-American paintings and all the things we've done for that. Great. What is he done with the. And, you know, when he was perfected the art. You got to help me out here. Can I come here while I waited for Tony to get her shit together? I wanted to wrap my head around their Hail Mary October surprise. And that's Hunter Biden and his. Well, I'll just let them explain it.

You can see on Fox and on one America news about the the laptop, the Biden's laptop and then all the corruption, taking money from the different countries, you know, from Russia and China. And Joe Biden would do whatever these countries needed. What did he do? Oh, he would either what he did or did not do. What didn't what did it do? You have to determine exactly what he did.

I saw paedophilia in China, something like that. Do you believe it? I don't know. That's something I have to look into a lot more we see about like the Hunter Biden scandal. What exactly happened with that? I think they they found a laptop that had, you know, emails and there was the FBI. They found a laptop with like emails and pictures of, you know, Biden talking with like Ukraine and China about business deals and stuff like that, which Biden, Hunter, Biden did.

Did something happen? They want to push it to get it, you know, get the investigation under way before the election. But what's the investigation off about the laptop and what was on what was on the laptop? I mean, could the conspiracy theorists would say that it's Joe Biden and Hunter Biden communicating with outside countries on business deals and stuff like that? Are you calling him a conspiracy theorist? That's just what he said, right?

The conspiracy stuff, because only because it hasn't been proven yet to make a ton of money and do absolutely nothing except that, hey, you can meet my dad.

That's a disgusting trait, right? To just use your father's name to make money off of that. Absolutely. Nepotism needs to be looked into big time. Yes. What do you think about Ivanka? Oh, she's so gracious. I see Ivanka as someone who is following or creating and enhancing people's lives around jobs and training and whatever causes she has, just like Lady Diana had 20 years ago, she had certain causes, AIDS and different things like that.

She was involved with Lady Diana seeking copyrights in China while she had a position of power. I don't know what you're talking about. As the horn rang in, the masses filed into the last rally, there was a bittersweet feeling in the air, folks who had not. And this is the last chance for them to get unfettered access to the United States after after this. And let me through Plexiglas, maybe with a telephone. If this somber attitude was a reflection of what could happen on Election Day, are these folks prepared for a world post?

Trump Trump could totally win if for some chance he doesn't win. What happens to all of this afterwards? Me personally. Sure. I will not live under a socialist government and just look up the three red flags on the Biden campaign poster. There's three red lines. Yeah. Look it up on Google. Well, I think it's an E it's supposed to be an E, but look at the three red flags or three red banners and they mean communism.

He's not communism right there on the flag. You got it. Really? You don't want to be in a place of socialized medicine? Nope. So where would you go? I'm going to look at Costa Rica. Costa Rica, which has universal health care. Yeah. I mean, I'm just I'm not going to live under socialist rule. I don't think Biden's going to make the four years and the CamelBak. Forget it. The CamelBak, who's at Pamala.

Oh, wow. That mispronounced the name and xenophobic. Yeah, absolutely. Wow. That's a Dupere. If they don't take in Costa Rica, I'm sure Argentina would welcome you and your point of view with open arms.

So the pitches have been made and the escape routes planned. Nothing left to do other than vote your asses off and hope we get the results soon. Until then, I'll be hiding out right here. Good luck, America. Thank you for your service. I'll see you out in that cornfield soon, my friend. All right. We have to take a quick break, but don't go away, because when we come back, vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris will be joining us on the show.

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Thanks, dude. It feels good to be playing Satan on this podcast this Halloween. Listen to Halloween and hell on the I Heart radio powerful podcast or whatever. You get your podcasts on soundtracks available on Spotify or wherever you stream your music.

But I mean, like everybody's got a podcast these days. But what would I know? I'm Satan, for God's sakes. Don't even get me started.

On September 17th, 2009, 24 year old my Chris Richardson disappeared without a trace in the woods near Malibu, California.

She had been arrested at a beachside restaurant for failing to pay a tab and taken to the Lost Hills Sheriff's Station. You know, I mean, she's not from that area. And I would hate to wake up to a morning report. Well, lost somewhere where it's gone. The police released her just after midnight with no car, no cell phone, no money. She doesn't know the area. She's never been in your area. Well, I think she said that's what happened.

That's more than just her.

OK, my trees disappeared into the darkness and was never seen alive again. I'm Catherine Townsend, host of the podcast Houngan, we're going to try to find out what really happened to my Chris Richardson School of Humans and I thought radio present Houngan, Season three, listen to hell and gone on the I Heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with the Democratic nominee for vice president, Senator Kamala Harris.

We talked about the pandemic police reform and what it would take to unify America. Senator Harris, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show.

I know. I feel very apart and yet close to you. It has been quite a journey that you have been on.

I mean, it's, what, 20 months ago you were on the campaign trail in the primaries vying for the seat as president. And now here you are, just a week away from possibly becoming the vice president of the United States. I mean, there are so many other issues that still need to be dealt with in America, but coronavirus and the dealing with this pandemic, it's the issue and you see it worldwide. France announcing new shutdowns, Germany as well.

In the rest of the world, it feels like people deal with the virus, know the nation has an idea of what to do. It's top down. Everyone does it. The people, when they go outside, if it gets bad, the people shut down a little bit. But they're managing it in America. It feels like it's either the argument is all locked down or all open. And the Trump campaign is saying, well, with the with the campaign of open up the country and they say the Biden campaign, Biden, Harris, want to lock things down, what is the actual plan for what you want to do when you get into power?

Well, and I appreciate the way you've asked the question, what is actually at play, right. As opposed to the rhetoric. What is actually at play is back in January, Donald Trump knew the seriousness of this, knew that it was contagious, airborne, deadly, five times more deadly than the flu. And he sat on that information. He covered it up and he didn't share it with the people. Trevor, can you imagine if if families of teachers, of small business owners knew on January twenty eighth what the president knew and had the ability therefore to prepare having a plan based on embracing the fact, being honest with the American people and then embracing science to to do what we will do, which is a national strategy for testing for for vaccines when we have one which will be free.

But also dealing with another piece of this, Trever, which I really want to emphasize in many ways, I believe this pandemic has been an accelerator, meaning it has accelerated what was messed up already. Right. So people who are doing badly before are doing even worse. You look at the racial disparities across the board, those racial disparities in health be the economic racial disparities, wealth disparities across the board. They were bad before and this pandemic has made them even worse.

And so when I think about this issue, I think of it in terms of what the solution has to look like and it has to be expanding the Affordable Care Act, not suing to get rid of it, which is what Donald Trump is doing. But Joe and I are saying, let's expand it. Joe and I are saying, look, health care, the body doesn't just start from the neck down.

It's offer from the neck up. And that's called mental health care. People are going through so much trauma even before and especially now. Let's address it. Right. These are the things that we are focused on, including lifting back up the economic condition of people. And so that's on a number of levels. And you look at the front line workers, by the way. Two hundred thousand of which are dreamers.

And all of those people, mostly women and men of color, who are the front line working to save the lives of perfect strangers without having paid sick leave, without having paid family leave, and without having the appropriate PPD to protect themselves.

So part of our plan is to also address that and to get people the resources they need. Well, Joe and I have a plan that's about giving federal grants and support to small businesses to do things like the Plexiglas barriers, because that's an expensive overhead for them to have to afford that right to support them so they can reopen and rehire.

But you have to see the people and you have to understand their needs and speak to their needs as opposed to what this guy in the White House does, which is he looks in the mirror and that's what he speaks to full time.

So so are you saying, if I'm understanding correctly, that the plan is to open, to limit shutdowns, but to give people the tools to open, or is it to go shut down first approach? What does it actually mean?

It means, first and foremost, the problem that we are facing in terms of the economic harm and the shutdowns is because of the public health crisis. And we have to get a handle on that. So we need to have a plan which this administration has not had for national testing, increasing the number of drive through testing sites, for example, that's you want more specific detail. That's one of the things that we're going to do. But making sure that there are free testing, rapid testing, making sure that when we have a vaccine that it is distributed and that we also take into account racial disparities, listening to the experts, listening to the scientists and letting that guide our approach, but also understanding that they're going to have to be phases to this.

And we're not going to go from having these spikes in the virus to. Just turning on a flip and everything going back to normal, and so the interim plan, yes, includes supporting small businesses with getting them things like support for them to reopen and rehire and do it in a way that is safe for themselves and their customers and not to mention schools, our teachers and our students. Part of our plan is to invest in infrastructure. And so when we talk about reopening and making it a safe and a healthy place for whomever our children are, our small businesses.

Right. We have to have a plan and the details matter.

I would love to start at the beginning of the journey and go. It's interesting being Kamala Harris, because according to Trump, you are crazier than Bernie, the most socialist person in the world. And then according to some people, you are not progressive enough. Who are you to you?

Like if you are introducing Kamala Harris to people, who is Kamala Harris and what are you going to represent when you get into that office?

Let me tell you, I am the child of parents who fought for civil rights. I am the daughter of a mother who arrived in the United States at the age of 19 and believed that she and her children could do anything and that we should never hear. No. And and so these are some of the things that have fueled my ambition to fight for equality, to fight for justice, to fight for fairness. And when I think about the prospect of being the vice president of the United States, those will be my values and my goals informed by the values that are about understanding the need to to fight for the dignity of all people, fighting for working families, fighting for the vulnerable and the voiceless among us.

These these are the things that propelled me. The things that propelled me are to fix these problems in a way that we understand the people behind the issues and not just engage in grand gestures, but engage in what is actually necessary to address the needs of the people, you know. And yeah, these people I mean, I don't pay attention to the name calling Trever. There are some of us who have lived a lifetime of being called names, and it is predictable and it is childish and it will not distract me.

Don't go away, because when we come back, we'll have more of my conversation with Kamala Harris, including why her name is so easy. It's so difficult to pronounce. You don't want to miss.

It's. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show, here is part two of my interview with senator and Democratic vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris.

One of the biggest issues that came to the fore during twenty twenty was that of racial justice. It's been a difficult one because of how oftentimes it is painted as a binary scenario in America. You know, people go all cops or no cops. And that seems to be the argument. You are somebody who has investigated police departments, somebody who has held them accountable. It hasn't been an easy journey in America and the attitudes have definitely shifted. So my question is, how do you think America can move forward in a world where police are held accountable but not made to feel like they cannot do their job right?

So part of it is this having worked inside the system, I decided to go in the system to change it from the inside. And one of the things that I can tell you, having spent my career there, is that there's a term accountability and consequence, consequence and accountability. You hear it used all the time in the criminal justice system and almost always it is directed at the person who was arrested and never at the system itself and the people who work in the system.

And we have to get to a place of agreeing. Everyone must be held accountable and there must be consequences when somebody breaks the law. And that includes a police officer, especially a police officer who has been entrusted by the public with the power and authority that they have. And so the way that I think about it is that we need greater accountability and consequences because frankly, there has not been there's been inadequate accountability and consequence when there is when they break the law, such as killing an unarmed black man, brown man, black woman, brown woman or anybody.

So Joe and I, for example, will ban carotid holes and chokeholds. George Floyd will be alive today.

We will create a national registry of police officers who break the law. Why? Because often it is the case. They're not held accountable in court, but they may get fired, but then they get fired. They move to another jurisdiction and get hired there. We need to we need to be able to track that. Joan are saying we need a national standard for use of force. Why? Because when there is an excessive use of force, the system asks this question usually, was the use of force reasonable?

Will you and I know you can reason away just about anything the more fair. And just question to ask is, was the use of force necessary? These are the things we will do. But in addition, I believe that we have to reimagine public safety in America if we want to achieve safety. It is outdated thinking to think the way you're going to do it is just put more cops on the street. The way you're going to do it is you invest in public education.

You invest in access to capital for small businesses and for families. You invest in high rates of homeownership. These are the things that that contribute to a healthy and a productive society.

With Vice President Biden to President Obama, he was the one who would whip up the votes. He would he would try and create some consensus in Congress, you know, with Dick Cheney. He was the real president of war, you know, with Mike Pence. I guess he proofread the tweets. I don't know.

But the point is, as vice president, you have a special position, you have a special relationship with Joe in that you are trying to get to the same place. But sometimes you see the world in different ways. What do you hope your role will be in helping Joe Biden achieve what the Democrats and what the voters have asked of the people they voted for? That's a great question.

I mean, here, I'll tell you this. I think that one of the things I love about Joe. He had the audacity to say he was going to have a woman run on the ticket with him and then he chose a black woman. That was his choice. And he had the audacity to do that. He understands that he and I have very different lived experiences and he wants and asked for a partner who would do this work with him, who can give feedback and perspective around not only a different life experience, but but joined by our shared values.

Right. And so I think about the work that we will do together from that perspective, where it's going to be about a lot of honest conversations with with real feedback and perspective, but focused primarily, of course, to get back to where we started, what we need to do to get through the tragedy of the pandemic, but also to unify our country knowing that we have had to withstand four years of a president who spent full time trying to sew hate and division.

And we need to bring the country back together around our shared ideals, regardless of where you live, your gender, your race, your age, the language, your grandma. He speaks, the vast majority of us have so much more in common than what separates us, and Joe and I are very committed to doing that, which is to unify our country. My final question to you is. Your name? Mm hmm. Why does it seem like it becomes harder to pronounce your name, the more conservative a person is?

Because I've noticed that there are some people you've worked with in the Senate who don't seem to know your name. Is this strange for you or does this, like, just remind you of growing up? I mean, any immigrant has the story. Any child of immigrants has the story. How does this make you feel when you see people fighting about your name?

Well, that's an interesting way to ask the question, because when I see the people who have had the experience of having been given a name from their family, which is one of the greatest gifts that a family can give you, it is the first gift that a child usually when they enter the earth, receives from their family. It is usually informed by tradition and love and the hope and aspiration the family has for that child. It is something precious and sacred and it is a part of their identity.

And when I see people fighting for the right for that to be respected and treated in a dignified way, I applaud and salute that. Anybody who otherwise on the other side of that wants to play childish games as though that that the highest elected leaders should conduct themselves like they did when they were children on the playground.

Well, it speaks poorly of their appreciation for the responsibility and the role that they have. And I think it's a reflection of their their values and maturity. Well, on that note, I thank you for your time, congratulations on the journey that you've been on and hopefully the votes will all be counted, hopefully that will not be an insane amount of turmoil. And hopefully we'll be talking to you again and maybe from the journey to the White House.

Thank you so much for your time, Senator Harry. Good to be with you. Well, that's our show for tonight.

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