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Get ready to hear the truth about America on a show that's not immune to the facts with your host, Dan Bongino.

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Welcome to Sunday podcast. This is our chance to play for you some of the best moments from the radio show and some great interviews during the week that you may have missed. If you ever want to check out our show, go to bongino. Com, go to Station Finder and see what radio station we're on near you. You'll love it. I promise you, we put a lot of work into the radio show. Check it out. But before that, let me tell you about our sponsor. You're having trouble staying in sleep or getting to sleep? It's time to embrace the importance of a restful slumber. That deep sleep really matters. Look at the connection of sleep between all these health ailments if you're not getting good sleep. Beam's Dream Powder is a hot cocoa for sleep that could transform your night. If you know me, you know Dream has been a game changer. I talk about it all the time. Today, my listeners get a special discount on Beam's Dream Powder. It's a science-back hot cocoa for sleep with no added sugar. Tastes amazing. Other sleep aids cause that next day grogginess. It's no good. Dream contains a powerful all-natural blend.

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He chose to put out this song. It's available for download now, and we're lucky enough to have him on the show today. Aaron Lewis, welcome to the show, Amigo. How are you?

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I'm good, Dan. How are you?

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I'm doing good. So listen to this. I get this guy. He sends me a Facebook message. He says, Hey, I worked with Aaron in staying for three or four years as a trucker. He says, I can tell you with 100% certainty that Aaron Lewis is the same man backstage as the man you see on the stage. The voice you hear is 100% his. No auto-tune or any other electronics added. He's a true Patriot and a great husband and father and a great person to be around. What a nice message for you, brother, from someone who knew you from working with you.

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That But you can't ask for anything more than that, right?

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No, man. I mean, to be called a Patriot and a great husband and father, that's really all that matters to me. So, Aaron, you've had an amazing career. Your solo career has been incredible. Your time was stained. Everybody's heard your music. You're out on your own now. You have a new song out, Made in China. Folks, if you want to check it out on X, by the way, he's @AaronLewisMusik. And Aaron, I think what makes you different, I say this, sadly, is there's so few of you guys left? Bobby Richie, Kid Rock, you, Jason Aldean. You guys really love the country. You're not afraid to say it. You're patriotic. And that's been lost in this woke music industry now, hadn't it?

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Oh, it's been completely lost. It's just It hasn't been lost altogether. It doesn't have to apply to the music business or anything else. We have very much lost our way as a country, as the owners of this country. We've lost our way. We've forgotten what our responsibilities are as the caretakers of this country, because that's all we are. We're caretakers to hand it on to the next generation in better condition than it was when it was handed to us. And that's what it's supposed to be. And I'm not seeing that at all.

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We're talking to Aaron Lewis, just an amazing performer. I promise you've heard his music. Most of you know him from his solo career in his time with Stan. He has a new song out called Made in China. I just retweeted it on X. Please check it out. Download it today. You know, Aaron, I'm seeing this growth of this parallel music industry now. I use I use that term because I have a parallel economy type business entrepreneurship enterprise where I build out these operations away from the old liberal economy because they boycott and they engage in anti-business tactics. But guys like you, again, John Rich, Jason Aldean and others, you've had such tremendous success. Are you seeing more people, young and up-and-coming artists, that are taking this tack now, where they're staying out of the business and just going direct consumer on Rumble or YouTube or elsewhere?

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I don't see as much of it because I really try as hard as I can to not participate in the Internet world. I never even had an official MySpace page going all the way back. For some reason, I always had this gut feeling about the whole thing, that it was just bad. I realized that through it, we have all been able to wake up in a manner that we wouldn't have been able to wake up with otherwise. But once we get past this, I don't know if it's worth the damage that it's causing in so many other ways.

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It's so refreshing. We're not wired this way.

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You're not wired this way. Human beings are not not wired to have a cell phone that is an instant computer, instant everything, access to the Internet connected to them at all times. It's like it become part of your body.

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I don't live in that space, the entertainment. I love it. I go to concerts all the time, but I don't know what it's like to perform in front of 50,000 people. I have no idea. I talk on the radio. I don't sing. I enjoy it. But have you ever had PR people? You're from one of the You've had, again, an amazing solo career. You were part of one of the biggest bands of my era. I mean, you were just born a couple of years ahead of me. Everybody knows Stane, everyone. Did you ever have PR people and hacks come up to you and say, Stop with this pro-American stuff. Just stick to the music. That's all passe. That was in the '50s. You ever have people try to tell you to shut your mouth that you could be a whole lot richer if you just be quiet about America and conservative values?

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Every Every day. Every day in one way or another. Not from my inner circle, but there is definitely a power structure above me that wishes that I would stop telling the truth every day.

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I think I told you in a text, your song, Someone, he's got a new song out, folks, Aaron, called Made in China, and it's incredible. We just played a little bit. We'll play a little bit more in the way second. But your song, Someone, is really, really special. It's just an amazing song. One day, my wife was getting ready. We were going out for dinner, and it's amazing how your songs are so deep and emotional, and I just played it on my phone. I said, I want you to listen to this. It makes me think of you because we've had a very traumatic relationship in the beginning, and you stuck with me through all these times. And your music is... Do you write all of your songs, or is it a compilation effort with others? Because that song is just deep. I mean, it'll shake your soul.

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I wrote that song with Matt McGee. For the longest time, I held my writing process very, very close to the chest and really didn't let anybody else in on it. It really got to a point where it was too much for me. It was too much Too much to carry. It would take me months to recover from the songs that I wrote in order to even be able to play them live without the possibility of breaking down in front of everybody. So it really there came a point, and it came in my solo career, where I just didn't want to bear that burden anymore. And sharing with somebody who knows me and knows my inner workings and knows how I think. And somebody like Bobby Pinson or Matt McGinn or Jeffrey Steele or Ira Dean. These are people that really know me very, very well. It's almost like they get to share my brain while we write songs together.

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That's powerful. My wife was in tears. It's an amazing song, and it's just one of a library of songs you have. We're talking to Aaron Lewis. He has a new song out called Made in China. Again, you know him from his solo career, you know him from his time in staying. Aaron, I won't keep you. You've been very generous with your time, but one thing I always ask a lot of people who really gained the high level of prominence in the entertainment or sports space is when you were with Stane, then you guys hit it. I mean, you guys hit it big. You were everywhere. Your music was everywhere. Was there Was there a moment where you're looking around with the guys and you're like, Wow, we're here. We made it. Were you listening in a radio in a car headed to a gig, and all of a sudden your song was playing or something? Was there a moment out there where that really that bell rang?

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I don't know if I have that in me, Dan. I'm always trying to feel the emptyness inside of me that comes from somewhere. I'm not capable of sitting back and going, Yeah, I made it. I'm always thinking in my head, I'm always thinking that I'm only as good as the next thing I put out.

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Right? No, I get it. Brother, listen to me. I get it. People ask me all All the time, what motivates you, the love of what you do or the fear of failure from what you're doing? I said that's an easy one to answer, the fear of failure. You were 100% correct. I've got a whole crew sitting here next to me listening. Aaron, I can do three, four banger shows, 150,000 live streamers, whatever it is. And then I do one show and we're off 10%, and I go down, I talk to my wife. It's over. It's over. Dan Borgino Show sucks. I'm quitting. I'm the same way, brother. I totally get it. I And I think what makes you special, why you've succeeded with both stained and on your own, is because of that emotional answer you just gave. If I did make it, I don't even want to know, because then I'll act like I made it. Am I accurately summing that up?

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Yeah, it's just not in me, Dan. It's not. It's not in my character. I don't know how to give up on something. I don't know how to to sit back on my laurels. I don't know how to take a vacation. I don't know how to take time off. I work a full week just like everybody else. Only I work from Wednesday to Sunday, while everybody else works Monday to Friday.

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My producer is pointed at me now. He's like, You got the same problem, Dan. I got this. I'm sending these guys emails at five o'clock in the morning. I'm like, You believe this crap? I'll read some story about Biden. They're like, Bro, Jim's two hours behind me. It's three o'clock in the morning, man. Whatever. Give me a break. Stop sending me these emails early.

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You know what that is? You know what that is? Insanity? Job Security, guys.

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That's right. No, that's right. And I think that's why- Job Security.

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You don't have to worry about whether you have to come into work the next day or not, because you know that we're going to be there.

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It's true. We're talking to Aaron Lewis. Aaron Lewis, he is @ArenLewisMusik on Twitter, X, whatever you want to call him now. He has a new song out, Made in China. And folks, do me a personal favor, download his song, Someone, too, and tell me it's not the most special piece of music you've heard in a long time. Aaron, you're welcome back anytime on the show. We're going to play a little bit of your music. Thanks for your time. Up next, is another one of my rants from a lifetime reaction to breaking news. Let me get to my direct sponsor first. Omaha Steaks' semiannual sale is here. The burgers, the steaks are incredible. Get 50% off site-wide. Save on mouthwatering favorites today. Go to omahasteaks. Com. Shop the semiannual sale where you can load up on all the delicious flavor you crave at half the price. And when you use my promo code, BONGINOW at checkout, you'll get an extra $30 off your order. Say big on delicious, tender, juicy steak, big beefy burgers, and so much more. With Omaha Steaks, the possibilities are endless. Endless flavor, endless value. Every purchase is backed by their unconditional money back guarantee.

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How do I know that? I'm basing it on polling. In the last election, if there was a poll done after the last Excuse me, presidential election, precision here matters, upwards of 17% of Joe Biden's own voters said they would have voted differently if they had known basically about the Biden crime family activities. So don't tell me it doesn't It doesn't matter. It does. I've got the data to back it up. Getting the information out there matters. However, I'm sensing a growing frustration with Republicans endlessly trying to convince liberals that Biden's corrupt. Do what I do on social media. Just laugh and mock them. They already know. You see what I'm getting at with this? I'm not trying to be a jerk or sound like I'm chastising anyone. It would be ridiculous. I just don't want you to get frustrated You're like, Gosh, we've got canceled checks. We've got suspicious activity reports. We've got multiple business partners saying Biden's the brand. We've got photos of Biden at meetings, testimony of Biden at meetings. We've got text from Hunter saying, I'm sitting next to my father. We've got office space rented for Biden. We've got the 10% for the big guy email.

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We've got a $200,000 check to Biden. We've got Biden living in multimillion dollar homes on a senator's salary. We've got Joe Biden talking on on the phone with Poroshenko. Folks, you could produce evidence tomorrow of Joe Biden himself. I'm not kidding. This may sound like I'm making a joke. I am not, because I've said this before. You could pull evidence tomorrow of Joe Biden admitting on video. He did all of this, which he did. And Jim, what do you think the Libbs would say? He's got some frontal lobe dementia or something. He's just making the story up. I'm dead serious. Jim's laughing as if he's like, I am 100% serious. Stop trying to convince them. Just make fun of them. That is it. They know the guy's guilty is sin. They know he's a kid sniffing, sociopathic, plagiarizing, bribe-taking, treasonous, most horrendous president we've ever had in US history. They know it. It's not a joke. We know. I just wanted to get that out of the way because I had... When did I send that this morning? I just wanted to see where this is. The genesis of this will make more sense. I get up in the morning in a mood sometimes.

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Oh, here it is. This was posted at 6:05 in the morning Eastern Time. I've been up for a little bit, and I'm putting together the show, and I'm seeing Dan Goldman and everyone on Twitter. Of course, they're like, The Republicans' case against the Biden crime family is falling apart. I'm laughing, as I always do in the morning. And Dan Goldman, who is a certified moron. I mean, by the Moron Society of America, he gets their stamp of approval. So I tweeted out, Don't waste your time trying to convince these people Biden's a criminal. They already know, and they love it. They're tyrants, and he's their tool for destruction. Just plow ahead with the evidence and hope the sane people will eventually see what's right in front of them. Now, why am I bringing this up? Not just because Hunter's testifying right now, but maybe an hour later, I'm downstairs, I'm working out. And Jim, did you see it on Fox & Friends? And there you go. There's Ducey. He's like, There's no direct evidence. I'm like, Oh, here we go. So I tweet it again. Just after I posted this, it happened again. Don't waste your time trying to convince the no evidence Joe Biden was involved crowd.

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These people are either lying, playing dumb, or they're actively involved in the scam themselves. I just don't want to... Here's Dan Goldman. Yeah, I'm going to put this in the show tomorrow. Here's Dan Goldman. Let me send this to myself. Here he is right now. I'm watching Twitter in live time. There is a very understandable, coherent business explanation for the Biden family making millions off Joe Biden. Yeah, he's correct. Jim's like, What are you talking about, Dan? No, he's right. Yeah, Biden was selling out the United States in its secrets to a foreign country for money. It's the truest thing Dan Goldman ever said. The point I'm trying to make here is an obvious one. They know. Liberals hate you. I can't say this enough. We say it every day on the show. They hate the country. They hate you. They hate themselves. If they happen to be white, they sit there all day and engage in white guilt exercises, which is the very definition of racism. They hate everything, themselves, Their neighbors, everything. The country, their own kids. They're horrible people. You trying to convince them of something they already know is a total waste of your time.

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Speaking of which, For the last couple of weeks, we've been airing some really sensitive information on both the radio show and the podcast. It's stuff I was given permission to share a long time ago. I had kept some of it not internal, but some of it I wasn't given permission to go with. Once we had to go on a lot of this stuff, I decided that it was time. It was time because another source had independently confirmed some information. And long and short of it is, I need you to trust me. When it comes to reporting, especially on a show where people trust you for your credibility, I say all the time, I don't want to be first. I'm not interested at all. I I want to be right. I don't care about being first. Oh, that's where all the clicks come from. I don't care. Not even a little bit. I have zero interest in that. Forget it. I would actually prefer to be second or third. So then you have some independent confirmation from a different information stream. Bottom line is we put out some information about the entire collusion, hoax, and the spying scandal on US citizens, including Donald Trump.

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We had put out a list of people who were spied on, according According to my source. I got a bunch of calls from people. During the show, by the way, I'm trying to do a radio show. People are texting me, Can you come on my show and talk about this? I'm not trying to be rude, folks. The answer is absolutely not. This is a serious situation. I'm trying to be delicate here because I don't want to sound like I'm exaggerating it or being overly dramatic. The people who have shared information with me that is so sensitive about this CIA overseas intelligence operation, a spy on Trump and what one of my sources calls Pied Piper candidates. That'll mean something to some of you. It's so sensitive that I have to be very careful. Before I do a show, I'm sure to write it down so I'm sure not to slip on things. I'm not doing interviews on it. The problem is starting to... Because here's what's happening. You've got a bunch of people out there who are on that list, and I don't know. They want to make the story about them. It's about a lot of people.

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They're like, Come on my show and talk about it. Absolutely not. I am not burning a source. Forget it. There's not even a zero percentage. It's the total absence of value You altogether. There's no chance I'm doing it. I'm not trying to be rude or obnoxious, but you need to respect that. Sending a thousand people on social media, Oh, you need to... I don't need to do anything. What I need to do is preserve the sanctity of this relationship with the source so the guy doesn't get whacked or killed or something. I'm not doing your show so you can hype up something. No, we're not doing that. I want to get I got out there, and I addressed it on the podcast earlier, because over the last few days, it's been ridiculous. It happens. It's fine. But you get these morons out there. You control the opposition. Whatever, dude. It Don't go put your pacifier in your mouth. Really, it's pathetic. I disclosed information I'm sure nobody's ever told you, about a massive overseas intelligence operation, a spy on American citizens that weren't just Donald Trump. I'm not going to go do some random interview where we out this guy and he gets hurt.

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We're not doing that. Okay, now we got both of those things out of the way. Let's talk a little bit about last night. Folks, last night in Michigan, the story is more of a Democrat Party story last night because it's really nothing to report on the Republican side because it's the status quo. But maybe that is the story on the Republican side. I'm sure at this point, Nikki Haley is going to frame this again as a win. Jim, would you agree? The more she loses by, the greater her gaslighting efforts to let you know that voters still want a choice. They don't want a choice. They don't want you. That's just simple. They were picking Trump. Have you ever heard of numbers? So Nikki Haley last night, what did she lose by? 40 or 50? I don't even know. 45 will split the difference or something. It's over. It is the weirdest thing, though. The more she loses by, the more she gives these speeches and she says, I will fight on. Voters deserve a choice. Yes. You know Ron DeSantis is on some of these ballots still, too, right? No, he dropped out. Yeah, but once you're on the ballot past the deadline, the ballots are printed.

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There are people that you could technically say that about anyone. Ron's not in the race anymore. He's not running. But honestly, either are you. You're pretending to run. You're wasting a lot of donor money. But there is not a single trajectory or single state. You are even within a single-digit margin of Donald Trump, including your own state. He said it wasn't a Republican story. Now you're talking about the-Folks, I get it, man. I ran in races. I've lost. It's hard. It stinks. You lose. I get it. No one's going to lecture me. Oh, you shouldn't talk. You should run. I did. When it's over, it's over. Voters didn't want me. They wanted someone else. Seemed to like the radio better than me in politics. Sometimes you ask God for an answer. The answer is no. Don't ask for an answer you don't want. To the Haley team, it's over, man. It's over. You ran in your first swing swing state, real swing state with a very, very diverse population. You got smoked. You ran in a red state. You got smoked. You ran in Nevada. You lost to the known AT Bovay Lanu ticket. If you watch yesterday's show, you get it.

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You ran in New Hampshire or Northeast. You got smoked. You ran in your own state. You got smoked. I mean, there's no state... Sean Davis tweeted it We love Sean Davis from the Federalist. He tweeted out, Nikki Haley is going for the full Mondale. When Walter Mondale lost 49 of 50 states to Reagan, except she's trying to beat that record. She's on track to lose every single state, all 50. It's time to get out of the race. Okay, now I'm really done. Squad goals. You want to say... Jim said it right. #goalswithazee. Like the kids throwing their goals. Up next is another one of our best interviews. It's from a former mobster. Take a listen to this. But first, our next sponsor. You ever wondered what happened to the legendary Chuck Norris, the action movie star, world champion, black belt, and US veteran? Well, I recently saw a video he made, and I was shocked. He's in his 80s and he's still kicking butt, working out, staying active, and he feels like he's in his 50s. What's even more shocking is he's stronger, can work out longer, and has plenty of energy left over that keeps him sharp and focused.

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To mess up Michael's last name, I know Michael Francis. Michael, welcome back to the show. I'm so sorry, man. People tell me I say my own last name wrong if there's any solace in it. Apparently, If I'm a real Italian, it's pronounced Bongino, not Bongino. But my family just picked up and adopted the name, so my apologies. But welcome to the show. Thanks for joining us.

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Well, thanks, Dan. Thanks for having me. But you got it The Italian way would really be franzisi. American is francese. So we both do our little thing to shorten it up, but it's all good.

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So, Michael, we've spoken before. You got a show on Rumble. We were honored to have you. You got Just thousands of people tune into your podcast and your show for your take on things. You were in the mob. You obviously don't hide it. You discuss it. You talk about it a lot. You apply some of the lessons learned, good and bad, to life today, and you become a real source for information for people. So I guess my first question is, what was a wake-up call for you where you said to yourself, You know what, man, this life ain't for me. No bueno, I'm out. I mean, what happened?

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Well, you know, Dan, it was a couple of things. Number one, I met a young girl that's now my wife of 38 years, and she was a young Christian girl. One thing that I do say, I don't knock people in the life. And obviously, I was a part of it for over 20 years. My dad for over 50 years, I would say. But I say it's a bad lifestyle because I don't know any family of any member of that life that hasn't been totally devastated, including my own. Now, not my wife and kids, but mother, father, brothers and sisters. It was It was devastating to the family. Back in the mid '80s, when they started to really implement the RICO law, the Racketeering Act was devastating. I saw guys that were a lot older than me getting convicted and getting 50 years, 100 years, 150 years. I said, Man, and a lot of guys were turning in form at that point. I said, Man, this life is really in trouble. So it's a combination of both. And I said, You know what? It's time for me to get out of this and try to straighten out my life.

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And that was back in the late '80s.

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We're talking to Michael Francis. He has a show on Rumbble. It's amazing. He is a very popular content creator. Michael, you're right. I remember Riko well, racketeer-induced corrupt organization. The essence of it, as you well know, is if you were in a mob organization, you could be held accountable for the crimes of others. You could have been Michael Francis hanging out on a corner with a guy and find yourself with an assault one rap because someone in the mob committed a crime while you were there. It was a really devastating thing that Giuliani and others used in New York to really bust up the mob. But you saw this lifestyle from the inside. You were there. I think one of the questions I get a lot, and I know it seems flippant and silly, but I hear it all the time. Matter of fact, a bunch of people are actually right now on Facebook asking me to ask you. You see all these mob movies out there, and they glorify this lifestyle, which you and I know is not worth glorifying. It's not. This is a criminal lifestyle. It's not worth glorifying. But which ones would you say are the most realistic?

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I had a friend who, let's just say, knew some people who swears it was Donnie Brasco's lefty character played by Al Pacino, that that was the most realistic portrayal they'd seen. But your thoughts on that?

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Well, I can tell you I thought that Al Pacino's best role. I knew lefty pretty well, and Al Pacino, he just nailed that in every way. Not only his mannerisms and everything, the dialog was terrific. So I agree on that. And it was a great movie. It was pretty realistic. But for me, the best movie, this may shock you, the most realistic, and I think that the script was taken off of a lot of the surveillance material was the 1996 HBO Gatti movie with Armando Sante and Anthony Quinn. Dan, that was so brilliant. Armand, he killed a roll. He was so amazing in it. There was a scene there with Anthony Quinn. He played Neil Delacroach. When he came into the bar and he was sitting down with Gatti, Armand, and telling him how he almost got whacked, and if he would have got the order to whack him, it would have been done. It gave me the chill. It was brilliant.

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We're talking to Michael Francis. He has a show on Rumbble. He's a former member of the... Michael, was it the Columbo crime family you were in? Yes. The Columbo crime family. It's an amazing show. I encourage you to check it out. Michael, I saw that movie, and you're right. It is a truly incredible movie, Arman DeSante. Let me tell you something. I'm out to dinner in New York not that long ago, Michael, and I'm with Chaz Palmetier, and we're obviously talking about a Bronx tale. Sorry, I'm not trying to be a name dropper. It was just interesting you brought that up because my wife, who loves Chaz, loves the movie. We got to talking about mob movies. The reason I respond that way is he said the same thing. That is his favorite mob movie. And Arman DeSante, as John Gott, he was so convincing that if you grew up in Queens like I did, not far from Howard Beach, where John Gott, he's unofficial headquarters was. I mean, he played John Gotti almost better than John Gotti did. That movie was incredible.

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You know what, Dan? I've said that many times. And you know, Chaz is a dear friend of mine. We actually have a platform together, The Wise and the Wise guy. I on YouTube, and we run things by each other. He's a great guy. But yeah, he agreed with that. He said that was brilliant. But I will say this about Chaz. His portrayal of Sunny in the Bronx Tale also was brilliant. It was just great. He did a great job.

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Amazing. And you know, Michael, that movie never ages. It is evergreen. You can watch a Bronx Tale. You can watch that now. You can watch it 10 years ago. You can probably watch it 10 years in the future. Because it's a timepiece and there's no cell phones that would age the project, it is just... I'll leave this for... I'm not a De Niro fan. You don't have to comment on that. But his acting was amazing in that. And even the kid who plays Cologiano, it's just an amazing, amazing movie. We're talking to Michael Francis as a show on Rumbl. It's fantastic. I can't recommend it enough. We're happy to have him over there. Michael, one of the things I think when I had you on my Fox show, I addressed with you is, you speak out often. You're not one of these guys who avoids politics and the politics of the day. Some of these guys, they get soft. I don't want to talk about that. Well, okay, whatever. But there's serious stuff going on. I think I asked you on Fox once, and you gave... I remember your answer was so deep. I remember the producer in my ear during the break going, Gosh, that was good.

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I asked you something about how the government now, given that you've been in the actual mob and you've seen it, the things the mob did, your government's doing now, the same government that used to arrest people in the mob, shaking people down, threatening people, intimidating people, stealing people's money like what happened up in New York. I mean, the parallels for a guy like yourself who's seen this lifestyle I'll have to be eerie.

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Dan, I never thought I'd see the day when they're so boldly doing the same thing we did on the street. I mean, it's unbelievable. I never thought I'd get to see the day where the government was acting so mob-like, but they really are. I mean, it's all about money and power on the street, and they're acting the same exactly. One of the scariest things, and this is what I'm trying to let people understand, whenever a political party starts weaponizing the Department of Justice, the FBI, all their federal agencies to go after their political, not only their political enemies, but anybody that disagrees with their agenda, we are in serious, serious trouble. And I see that happening so much. I mean, Look, you say what you want about Donald Trump. It's not even not even that it's Donald Trump, but what they're doing to this guy. They didn't do this to mob guys on the street. It's not bad.

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It's true. Michael, it's true. The mob guys you knew on the street, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. The mob guy, at least they got due process. I mean, John Gotti actually had process. He went to try. He got off on a couple of these trials, too. I mean, he had a legal process. And then in the end, he lost. It seems like Trump gets none of it. Like the rules have gone out the window.

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It's unheard of. I try to say this, at least with us, we were criminals. I mean, there's no question about it. They were investigating us for a reason. But yes, we did get due process. But what they're doing to this guy is so dangerous. And I try to tell people, forget the fact that it's Donald Trump. Whoever it is that the government weaponizes all these tools that they have to go against somebody because they disagree with them, they hate them, they don't like them, whatever the reason is, it's so dangerous for all of us. And I just wish people would understand that because look, I've always seen the government play games, and I understood that. We used to tell the FBI, Listen, we get it. Come after us. Just don't frame us because we know you're capable of doing that. They used to try to hide it a little bit, but now it's just so out there.

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It's unbelievable. I know. Now it is. It really is. It's hard to digest. Michael, we're talking to Michael Francis, former member of the Columbo mob family, is a show on Rumbled Now, and really a fascinating guy. Michael, Michael, growing up around this in Queens, where obviously you had different crime families in different operations, and they all had territory, and you know how it worked. You'd open up a shop, and they'd come in, and they'd say, Hey, you're going to use our sanitation company. Well, the price isn't that great. They'd say, Like I said, you're going to use our sanitation. You know the way it worked, and you just did it, or mysteriously, your place would burn down. I mean, that's the way it went down back in the day. But a lot of these guys, although some of them were, a lot of them were drug addicts, and most of them at least in my day, were really bad guys. One of the things about them is if you left and got out, some of these guys are trying to get out. These guys would really do some damage. Do you ever find... I mean, I know you don't specifically go after guys and things like that.

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I get that. But do you ever get threats or anything like that where you feel like, my gosh, maybe I better be careful?

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Well, listen, I certainly had threats, and I know there was, without a doubt, a contract on my life. My former boss, Carmine Persigal, he took it very personal when I walked away. Very personal. He was very upset, and he was a very capable boss. Let me put it that way. But fortunately, he had his own troubles. He was indicted and convicted on a commission case, got 100 years. I had threats back then. When I was in prison, they kept me in lockdown because they said my life was in danger. I went through all of that, but mainly because people thought I was going to cooperate and start putting people in prison, which I never did. So that went away. But you know, Dan, the funny thing, I get threats online. I mean, it's so crazy because people threaten me, and I tell them, Well, now that I know who you are, and I know your IP and all of that, I just had to be careful and navigate a course the way I did. And I've been very fortunate, Dan, very blessed. I don't know if you know this, but Fortune magazine wrote an article back in 1986.

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It was the 50 Worriest, Most Powerful Mom Boss. It was a huge article. It was like half the magazine. And they featured six of us. I was one of the six. And they actually had a chart with the 50 of us on there, according to rank and wealth and power. And they had me as number 18. I was the youngest guy on the list. What you always say was a silly list. Don't ask me how they got that. They didn't ask for our tax returns. They just sold a lot of magazines. But what's telling about that list today, some 30 odd years later, 48 of those men are dead. Number 49 is in prison, and I'm the only one alive and free. Michael, let's keep it that way. To say that I'm fortunate and blessed to be where I am today is pretty much an understatement.

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Well, Michael, we're very pleased to have you on Rumbel. I know you've used your platform to speak out and you've changed your life. Michael, thanks so much for your time. Check out his show on Rumbel. You will not be disappointed. You've probably seen some of his clips go viral on some of these video sites. Up next is another one of my nuclear rants, Reacting to what Happened on the Radio. Let me get to our last sponsor first. Ladies and gentlemen, You have three minutes in the morning or 30. Keep your face wrinkle-free. Look at us, how many? Fifty. Introducing Gen90, the new instant wrinkle treatment from GenUcell Skincare. Gen90 can instantly help reduce the appearance of wrinkles anywhere you use it, around the eyes, the forehead, the crow's feet, the laugh lines. It can all start working in seconds. Never worry about your skin or your confidence again. Gen90 technology is luxurious, nourishing, and silky smooth. Best of all starts working in seconds. Paula feels a tingle every single time. There's a reason why GenUcell Skincare is 400% the customer loyalty of other skincare brands. Now you can get GenUcell XV, the collagen builder moisturizer with vitamin C and hyaluronic acid and a pure natural base for stunning results day after day.

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You're like, We are leaving. We are leaving right now. Jim said it. Don't stop. Don't ask for directions. Don't roll down the window. Was it Aliens? Sigourne Reaver? No, it was the guy character. I forget his name. He's like, Ripley, we are leaving. That's the Uranians, Uranusanians. They're like, We are out of here. You got a guy leading the most powerful country on this rock you call Earth that could destroy the whole place with these nuclear fission weapons. And the guy still insists he was a civil rights activist in the '60s. He You can't even remember that the Giza Pyramids aren't in Mexico? And now you got this Fannie Willis thing going on. During the break, I was watching it on cable news. And again, it's just a humiliating embarrassment. You've got a prosecutor, just like LaTisha James, who's a straight-up commie, who is so dumb, she's apparently having some with some dude who then she ridiculously hires to go and try to take out Trump in an obvious political hit. Then they get caught, and there's a guy on TV, and Jim said it right, don't even bother. Typically, you tune into this stuff to watch the hilarity of Fannie Willis.

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She was like, Yo, it's my 50th, man. I did it big. Listen, I don't want to know what you're doing big on your 50th. It's not my business, okay? I'm not really interested. But it was at least tragically hilarious watching Fannie Willis humiliate the the entire globe in front of the Uranians, right? I'm sure they're called something else. I get it. But now you got this guy up there now. All they want to do is figure out a way. Jim just said it to not answer a question. Hey, you told me a while ago that you thought the relationship between Fannie Willis and Nathan Wade started. I was speculating, but you said it. I object to the characterization of the speculation of the dissertation The judge is like, We will dissertate the speculation of the speculator, assuming the speculation was speculating on materials relevant to the prior speculation. Then the prosecutor is like, Okay. Sir, you said you were... I object. I object to the characterization of the word, sir. This is a complete, total laughing stock, humiliating embarrassment. Jim just said it. Jim, turn your mic on. Say, I want the whole audience to hear that.

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What did you just say? That was an absolute, completely accurate presentation of what just happened on TV. Jim's listening. It was a Five minutes back and forth about a guy saying, I think this relationship started soon. I object. I object. I object. He was speculating. Yeah, but a judge, I'm asking him about the priors. You're speculating about his prior speculation. If you're watching this, you're like, what is this? Oh, wait, you forgot. The judge said, Wait, don't ask it that way. Ask it this way. That's right. Then the judge is like, I don't like the way you ask that. Ask it a different way. This is like, imagine you're watching this. You don't even know what it's about anymore. You're like, Who's this guy again? What is he even talking about? That's the goal. That's the left, to destroy and decimate institutions so much. What's happening right now is exactly what the left does. I think of like a Dan Goldman, one of the dumbest members of Congress by far. He's a liberal member from New York. Guys, an absolute tool. He's on Twitter every day. And whatever you post about the Bidens, it doesn't matter how much evidence you have.

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He'll be like, this is a conjecture on a... Hunter Biden didn't say and. He used the word as so that throws out the testimony that he was, in fact, a board member. This is This is all they do. This is all they do. The country's got to be a complete joke. The Uranians are sitting here like... Never laugh at your own jokes. Don't It's a terrible, terrible thing to do. I just can't take it, folks. I can't. I started out at the beginning of the show today. Did I not? Telling you, your government hates you. It's not just that the government is full of people guilty of misfeasions. They're guilty of malfeasions. They are actively trying to destroy your lives. It's not like they're trying to help you when they screwed up. They're actively trying to destroy your lives. Here's a perfect example. It's actually segued into what I was going to talk about. Fannie Willis is trying to tell people, this prosecutor in Georgia going after Trump, that I wasn't having an affair with this guy, Nathan Wade, when you say I was. It happened later, and it doesn't have a lot to do with anything, and let it go.

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So a private investigator goes and gets a hold of her cell phone data, which clearly indicates that that story is not accurate, that this guy's phone has been around Fannie Willis' house a little more than they've been talking about. This is where the story gets totally freaking crazy. Fannie Willis, who is a prosecutor in Fowland County, Georgia, who was supposed to be a public servant, whose office is probably made and prosecuted hundreds of cases, if not thousands, involving cell phone data. In other words, this drug dealer was at that location when the murder happened. Here's his cell phone data. Fannie Willis, in order to personally escape any accountability for her ridiculously inappropriate, immature, abominable life decisions is now on the record saying, The records do not prove in any way the content of the communications between Wade and Willis. This is her team. They do not prove Wade was ever at a particular location or address. They don't prove Wade and Willis were ever in the same place during any of the times listed. Folks, you understand how many cases are now going to be chucked in the future and thrown in the garbage because the prosecutor for Fulton County, Georgia, is now on the record saying, Hey, man, a cell phone data stuff?

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Yeah, it doesn't work. Now, I've I got a bit of a tie-in to this, showing you how sick these deranged, disgusting filth lefties are. They will say or do anything. I'm telling you as an investigator, cell phone data, unless someone stole your phone is pretty darn accurate. If it says you were there, ladies and gentlemen, you were there. Again, unless someone stole your phone, I'm sorry to tell you, but your phone is a homies beacon. So all these people are going to be in Fulton County jails right now. Drug dealers, murderers are now going to basically appeal their cases saying that prosecutors lied suggesting that the cell phone data put them at the spot when the dopey, stupid Fannie Willis is now on record saying, No, cell phone data is not accurate. Has anybody thought any of this through? Of course not. They're morons. She's on to stand. I did 50. Oh, really? That's good to know. Thanks, Fannie, for the update on your bizarre partying behavior. These are some of the dumbest people I have ever seen. But here's the tie-in. Proving again, moron, liberals will fall for anything because they're stupid. That's why they're liberals.

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If they were smart, they wouldn't be liberals. They'd be sensible Democrats or they'd be Republicans. Remember when the movie 2000 Mules came out? The dumbest guy in media, Philip Bump, spent countless because they were terrified of the movie. That cell phone data, Dinesh Dessousa did a movie called 2000 Mules. Disclosure, I was his partner on a later movie, Police State. I was not a partner in 2000 Mules at all, but I liked the movie. The movie It was disturbing. It showed some really interesting evidence that cell phone data seemed to track a bunch of mules who kept making stops between what appeared to be ballot stashhouses where they were gathering ballots and drop boxes. It's an interesting movie and very compelling. The Washington Post, Philip Bum, the absolute dumbest guy in media. I mean, a guy so ridiculously stupid. Just watch that interview with him with the liberal guy, when a Hunter Biden thing, when he gives him evidence, he's like, I got to go. I got to go. I got to go take a dump or something. I mean, it was so embarrassing for this guy Bum. Bum spent weeks in the Washington Post trying to discredit and debunk the idea that cell phone data can place people at a location.

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Bump is not an investigator. He's a moron. I'm the expert here, right? There you go. That was Bump. I'm the expert. You got to watch the whole... It's hilarious watching Bump embarrass himself. What does that have to do with anything? Well, it's funny that Bump spent the entire time debunking cell phone data, and yet most of the January sixth trespassing cases were built on what? Oh, yes. Celphone data. So It was so strange how when dumb, imbecile, moron Liberals who are police state hacks want to make a case against Conservatives, they're like, cell phone data places them inside the Capitol. They were trespassing. Throw them in the gulag. Matter of fact, kill them. Death penalty. But she's 90. She walked through an open door. Kill her tomorrow. Firing Squad. Firing Squad tomorrow. Cell phone data. And then you go, Oh, yeah. Well, the same data was used to place Nathan Wade and Fannie Willis in a location they said they weren't at, so she's lying. No, No, that's not accurate. No, you just said it was accurate. You demanded the firing squad for grandma on that data. No, no, it was accurate for that, not for this.

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What about the 2,000 meals? No, no, it's definitely not accurate at all for that. It's not even close, matter of fact. Not even It's not even the same street. You're just guessing. But it's good enough to put grandma in front of the firing squad for January sixth. Yeah, definitely. You realize you're saying the opposite thing depending on where your political allegiances are. No, I'm not. Same thing. No, it's literally the opposite thing. In one case, you're saying it works, and the other case, you're saying it doesn't. No, it doesn't. You see how you're left scratching your head where if you're a Uranian, you're sitting here like, I don't get it. Are you people I'm saying? I'm trying to process this information. You people can't be this stupid. Jim said, We're not even rolling down the window. We were going to stop here and conquer you idiots, but we're going to turn around, and we're going to go back to your anus because we can't take the stupid. There must be some virus infecting the brains. It happens. They have prions and stuff, Kruitzfeld-Jakob disease, and mad cow disease, and animals. Maybe they think this is like, We don't want that.

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We don't want that. We don't want that getting into our population. Then they go home, and they give their report about how dumb liberals are. The Uranians are sitting in front of the Uranian king, and the guy said, Quarantine these people. They may have brought back that stupid virus. Quarantine. One year. Quarantine, one year. Maybe time's relative. Time dilation. I'll pass by quicker on your ears. I don't know. There you go. Quarantine these people right away. Thanks for listening to the show. You can find this show every day on rumble. Com/bongino. You can also find it on your local radio. If you go to bongino. Com/stationfinder. You can also find it on your local radio on our stationfinder at bongino. Com. We really appreciate it. See you next week. You just heard Dan Bongino.