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Mike Lee. Mike Lee calls him the firm, the swamp, the blob, the firm, whatever you choose to call them, that they were hatching this plan and plot and you know, sadly, a lot of them are swampy Republicans to ice out MAGA candidates from winning. I think what they want is they have this pit in their stomach. I'm talking about the swampies that Donald Trump could win this election. Matter of fact, he's in pretty good shape right now. And they're thinking because they hate Trump, that, you know what? If we get a bunch of swampy Republicans in there on the House and Senate side, we can quote, like, control Donald Trump. Right. That's what's going on. So Congresswoman Lauren Boebert has been an ally to the movement. There's a massive plot to keep her basically out of Congress in this next term. She's a great to come back and speak with us again with an update on the case. Congresswoman, thanks for joining us. We appreciate it.

Dan, it is wonderful to be back with you.

It's great to have you here. So an update on the situation. I had said a couple weeks back that Ken Buck abruptly leaving Congress, created this special election to fill his seat. I said, listen, I think they're going to put this primary on the same day as the special because Lauren Boebert's running in that district and they're going to try to ice her out. Do you have an update on that situation? Because it appears that's exactly what happened.

Well, Dan, you do such a great job explaining exactly what's going on, but people that have worked in politics for years don't even understand exactly what's going on with $10 vacancy and how he is intentionally trying to screw me over and potentially screw over President Trump, leaving millions of Americans without proper representation. And so I'll keep this at succeeding as succinct as I can. This is a backroom uniparty scandal, and it is so corrupt that it makes block of it. Trying to sell the Senate seat in Illinois look like amateur hour. Following President Trump's endorsement, which he made for me, it made clear that there is no path for any of my nine or ten opponents whatever day of the week it is. There's so many of them to win. But Ken Buck and the uniparty concocted a swampy backroom deal to try to rig an election, an election that I'm winning by 25 points. And so this is forcing an unnecessary special election on the same day as the primary election in Colorado. And it has absolutely confused voters. And this will result in a lameduck congressman on day one and leave the fourth district with no representation for more than three months.

And as you have accurately stated, I cannot run in this special election because I would have to pull a Ken buck and resign and leave my constituents that I currently represent without representation for months and force them into a special election, costing the taxpayers even more dollars. But Ken Buckle falsely claims that he concocted this scheme and coordinated the vacancy date with Democrat Jared Polis to save taxpayers money. That's anything but true. County clerks have told me that forcing this special election is. Will cost an additional $900,000 at least. And if he cared about cost, he would have finished his term. But now he's going around town trashing me, and he's made clear that this was a coordinated attack to try to rig the election. But here's the point that you make. Ken Buck hates Trump. He hates conservatives. And anyone that admits that the 2020 election was stolen. Kent theory is a billionaire and former CEO of Davita. And Kent also hates Trump and conservatives. Kent theory is trying to pass a ballot initiative this November to make Colorado a jungle primary state so conservatives no longer win congressional races. Yes, and so, you know, one of my employees, you know, there's lots of different people who are sharing employees here with this, with Kent theory's dirty money, but this is to undermine Colorado's current election, future elections, and President Trump's presidency.

We're talking to Congresswoman Lauren Boebert, who is an ally to the movement and therefore an enemy to the swamp. They are doing everything they can to keep her from this congressional seat she's running for. Congresswoman. As, unfortunately, you know better than anyone, Colorado has always been a blueprint template for the Democrats national plans. As a matter of fact, they wrote an entire book about it. What they did in Colorado, turning it from a healthy red state on to a blue state, maybe. Maybe purple state has been a template for the entire nation. You know, people like yourself are doing their best to turn it back. But I think what I find so offensive about what Ken Buck did is you work up there, and let's just talk turkey. Listen, I know that people up there can be a pain in the butt sometimes, but it's not a difficult job. I mean, there are people out there working for a living, congressman. We got fighter pilots, we got construction workers, cops busting their asses. We got people. It's Congress. I mean, we appreciate what you do and all, but it's not like you're digging ditches. Why the hell couldn't Ken Buck just plant his ass in the seed and stay there till November?

The only reason to do this was to sabotage Trump.

And you that's exactly right. It is the establishment, the uniparty versus Maga, Donald Trump and now Lauren Boebert. So now, as you've discussed on your show, Dan, Ken Buck is going around and he's going around town like a giddy schoolgirl saying, quote, I think it's the next three people that leave Congress that you're going to be worried about. Now, does he know something that we don't? Are there three Republicans considering resigning and leading us in the minority in the middle of our Congress? And for your listeners, ask yourself some questions here. Do enough Republicans hate President Trump in Washington, DC to go along with this scary plan and give House control over to the Democrats? Why is Ken Buck so confident about this? If Democrats get control of the House before the November election, will they do everything in their power to block President Trump from getting back into office? Does this include enabling legislation, given the recent Colorado Supreme Court decision, like Jamie Raskins has threatened, why did Democrat Governor Jared Polis go along with Ken Buck's date and put out a statement even praising Ken Buck? Look at the Democrats track records of trying to block President Trump.

Two, sham, impeachment. Impeachment. Russiagate made for tv January 6 committee Fannie Willis fake indictments around the country. And as you said, Dan, Ken Buck and several swampy Republicans have a three point plan. Get Speaker Hakeem Jeffries in there as speaker of the House, throw out the Biden investigation and ice me out of my seat. And this is all just steps to ultimately block President Trump.

Speaker one, I'm so glad you brought that up because, folks, you know, I know you know, Congresswoman Boebert, I do, a national figure. But what's happening to hurling her in Colorado right now is not a Colorado issue. What she just laid out here in that three point plan is an actual plot. Ken Buck has actually said this, folks. You can look it up in his Newsweek interview. Was it axios or whatever? Ken Buck, who's allegedly a Republican leaving in Colorado, said he knows of three other people that leave. You understand? If these three other people leave, Hakeem Jeffries is the speaker of the House. This could, this could, if Ken Buck isn't lying, this could actually happen. And Congresswoman, I just like you to address this. I know you're busy. I'll let you roll after this. President Trump is going to need allies. We've seen what happened in the last four years when insiders attacked him. We got bogged down with this, you know, pee pee hoax and all this other crap. He is going to need allies. We have a golden opportunity with this Senate map that we're not going to have for probably another decade.

West Virginia, Montana, Ohio. But the House map is not that great. New York just redistricted. We could lose a seat or two. We lose your seat there to some rhino candidate, and it's a one two seat House majority. President Trump doesn't have a lot of room to work right there.

That's exactly right. And, you know, I've been asking, I've been asked by many people, how can we help? And the most helpful thing for my election to keep this seat in Colorado is to go to Lauren for freedom.com and donate. We have to have massive education efforts on in our coffers here as people are confused by two elections now being on the same day, thanks to Ken Buck's selfishness. So we are going to need even more resources than we thought to communicate with voters and make sure that they understand what is going on. President Trump has endorsed me. He knows that I am an ally of his and that he needs his a team ready to go on day one when he takes back the White House and he's back in office, he needs fighters by his side who are trusted allies. And I certainly am a trusted ally of the president. I'm honored to have his endorsement. And now we need to make sure that we have the resources to educate Colorado voters on what is going on, because it is going to be a mess come June 25, on the day of the primary and the special election.

And furthermore, Dan, we need to even now to the american people that Republicans can govern. We need to prove that we deserve a majority and that we will have a strong majority ready to go when President Trump is reelected.

Congressman, one last question. I know I said it was loud, but this will be quick, I promise. Colorado has not been a favorable state for Republicans over the last few presidential cycles. We just haven't done a great job there. It's shameful. The state was once a reliable republican vote, and the Democrats just tactically beat us there. President Trump seems to be changing the trajectory of very specific states that could be in play. Virginia, New Jersey. Do you think Colorado is one of them in the presidential cycle in 2024?

Dan, between my current district and the district that I'm running for, that's 80% of the landmass in Colorado. And I am with voters every single day that I am in the state. And I believe that Colorado is in play for President Trump. Are furious that Democrats removed him from our primary ballot. They were rejoicing at the Supreme Court decision. And now they want the secretary of state recalled because she adamantly opposed the 90 decision with the Supreme Court ruling. And I believe that Colorado is absolutely in play. People are tired of Democrats stealing their votes, meddling in elections. They're tired of universal mail in ballots. They want voter identification. They want voter integrity to return to our state. And they see the Democrat policies and how they have destroyed Colorado and how that is infiltrating all throughout America. I believe that Colorado was a petri dish for the Democrats. And they said to themselves, if we can enact these policies in Colorado, we can do it anywhere. So I am still fighting for Colorado. I believe that it's in play for President Trump. And I greatly appreciate all the support that's coming into Colorado. We have a country to save and I wake up every day prepared to take on that mission.

Congressman, what's your website again, Lauren? For freedom.com dot Congresswoman Lauren Boebert. Thanks for fighting a good fight. We appreciate it. And as always, you're welcome back anytime. Thanks again.

Thanks, Dan.

Folks, wouldn't, Jim, I was just thinking of some, as Congresswoman Boebert was talking, wouldn't that be the greatest kick in the collective Democrat nads of all time? If they try to remove Trump from the ballot and he turns around and wins Colorado, Colorado, please listen. I don't know how long I have on this earth. I'm not sick. I was gonna say don't tell my mom, but unfortunately my mom called me last time. Yeah, she was like, Daniel, don't say that. But I don't know how long I have on planet earth. You would make my life my life. I may have 20 years. I may have, I don't know. It would be the greatest moment of my life. If Colorado goes for Trump after your crazy secretary of state tries to kick him off the ballot, that would be the good. I would, Jim, would it not, Jim, take a note because we don't forget to discuss this the day after if he wins Colorado. I think I may make that a half an hour segment on my show. Just put it in your calendar app or whatever for the day after that. Pay attention to Colorado.

That would be hilarious. They try to kick him off the ballot and he turns to stay red. It'd be the greatest triple barrel middle finger ever. Up next, a real time reaction to breaking news on my show where sometimes stuff happens and then I happen. But let's talk about our next sponsor. Hey, financial experts thought we were in the clear. They were anticipating around six rate cuts by the Fed this year, and then the inflation data came out higher than expected. Listen, inflation is not going away. It can't. The US is $34 trillion in the hole and we keep printing money. It's pushing the prices up every single day. You can either bury your head in the sand or do something about it. Diversify a portion of your savings into gold with birch gold group gold is your hedge against inflation, and birch gold makes it super easy to own. I've been a customer of this for a while. They help you convert an existing IRA or 401K into a tax sheltered IRA in gold, and you don't pay a penny out of pocket. Gold is a part of my savings strategy. I buy from Birch Gold.

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When does that ever. So swampies and Democrats, by the way, both parties, the uniparty has unquestionably screwed the country up. Okay? There are good republicans out there. There are very few good democrats, but there are a lot of swampy ones, too. You ever, is there ever any accountability in government? Like, you notice, they've been, they've been whining about the same problems for 50 years, but no one gets fired. The Boeing CEO like, yeah, you're out of here. This is a publicly traded company. I own stock in the company. You suck. You need to go. And he's got to step aside. The guy could have done the greatest things ever a bolts missing. It's probably not his fault directly. Doesn't matter. He's in charge. Someone's got to go. Buck, stop it. When the stops. When him. Do you ever notice this never happens in government at all. No matter what these numb nuts do, nobody ever gets fired. The media too. It doesn't matter how many bull stories you tell. There's a pp tape. Trump colluded with the Russians. Hunter's laptop was from Russia or whatever. The hallmarks of russian intelligence. It doesn't matter how many times politicians in the media get things wrong.

It doesn't matter. Nothing happens. Zero. And yet in one of the greatest acts of cosmic irony, the same people never held responsible for anything. The media and government condemn the one space in our society where people are held accountable immediately. Capitalism. Boeing's like, get this guy out of here. This guy I don't know. I never met Dave Calhoun in my life. He could have been the greatest CEO ever. I have no idea. All I know is some problems happen, some bolts are missing, people are put in danger, and they're like, you're out. Goodbye. Capitalism sucks. No, you suck. In government and media, you suck. You just don't like capitalism because there's actually accountability mechanisms for capitalism when it sucks. Because you know what? There are times capitalism does produce sucky stuff. New coke, pet rocks, whatever. There was people, but they didn't like it. And you know what? People got canned or they discontinued the product. Pet rocks were actually pretty cool by the marketing guy was a genius. I love that guy. Which, I get a higher infinite podcast in a second. What a genius. Here's a rock. It's your pen. Yeah, I can get one from my yard.

No, no, this one's special. Why? Because we put in a box and called it a pet rock. But I'm sorry, I get off track here, but this segment's coming up about the media, and I'm thinking about this in the break. The media hates capitalism because they'd actually be held accountable if the media was run like a capitalistic organization where merit mattered. You get people in the media space, Jim. If I'm missing anyone, tell me you got Adam Goldman, Kendallanian, Natasha Bertrand, Philip Bump, a Glenn Kessler, Bryan Stelter, Moscow, Rachel Maddow, Chuck Todd, you've got this Justice League of losers. They're like the anti Justice League. It's like the imbecile league, and nothing had they get promotions. I think outside of stelter, they are not really. Actually, I shouldn't even say stealth isn't stealth or at Harvard? Is he at Harvard now, Mike, look that up. So there's zero accountability in this space. Now you see why they hate capitalism, because they'd actually be accountable for sucking. And nobody sucks more than politicians in the media. You understand the level of suck we're talking about? Is he at. Is he at Harvard still, Jim, shaking his head.

Imagine that. Imagine being Bryan Stelter doing hits in, like, your underwear on tv and then taking a picture of it while you sit there and groan on and on about how Mark Levin's a conspiracy theorist because of a Fisa. Levin's proven right. You never apologize. And yet you go to teach at Harvard. Then you're the government. For now. I'm only alive 49 years, and I've only been a sentient being for, like, I don't know, 44 of them since I'm a kid. Democrats in the government have been, oh, we got a health care crisis, a border crisis, we've got an education crisis, we've got a tax crisis, a growth crisis. You've been whining and moaning and peeing in your diapers for 50 years. 50 years, bro. The hell have you done? Has it ever occurred to you that you just suck, that your entire model of governing sucks so bad that you're actually admitting your own incompetence? You imagine the Boeing CEO, this guy now is out. I just saw it. This guy's just the assembly line problems or whatever. I have no idea. They'll manufacture planes for a living. But I'm telling you, the likelihood that the CEO missed the bolt, he wasn't there, but he's got to go.

Why? Because capitalism demands it. Because it's ruthless. Because it's ruthless in the most moral way possible. The difference is politics is ruthless in the most immoral way possible. Think about it. You benefit from complaining about problems you never solve. Well, think about just the Biden administration the last three years. The border is broken. You gonna fix it, loser, or you just gonna keep talking about it? You know, you are the president, right? It wasn't broken under Trump. We have the numbers, but it's broken now. The border's broken. The Republicans out there, we have a broken border. Are you gonna fix it or you just gonna keep whining? And the media, the media is just obscene. I want to play. I'm going to play these in reverse. Jim, we need, sir. We need, sir, I need. I need the original, sir. This was an actual interview with one of the dumbest human beings on this rock we call Earth. Not just in the meet, Leslie Stahl. How Leslie Stahl is employed by anyone in the media space. I would not hire her to write a blog about broken fire extinguishers, but Leslie Saul somehow has a job at 60 minutes, despite getting the biggest political scandal story of our time.

Not only wrong, but getting it wrong. On camera. This is her interviewing President Trump about spy games. President Trump was spied on. This is, none of this is in dispute. We have an IG report about it. We have FISA warrants about it. We have an FBI employee that was convicted in a court of law related to it. We have the name of the spy. We have the name of the other spy. I wrote books about it. Here's Leslie Stall on camera with the biggest scandal of our time, telling President Trump number one, that what he's saying is fake even though it's true, and then claiming, hilariously, that even though there's a vaunted 60 minutes, that they have no ability to verify this at all. And she, amazingly, still has a job, apparently, unlike the Boeing CEO. Check this out. So the biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign. They spied on my campaign.

There's no real evidence of that.

Of course there is. It's all. Leslie. They spied on my campaign and they got cold.

Can I say something? You know, this is 60 minutes, and we can't put on things we can't verify.

Now you won't put it on because it's bad for Biden.

We can't put on things we can't verify.

Leslie. They spied on my campaign.

Well, we can't verify that.

We can totally verify it. No, it's been. Just go down and get the papers. They spied on my campaign. They got caught.

No.

And then they went much further than. And they got caught. And you will see that, Leslie, and you know that. But you just don't want to put.

It on the ear. As a matter of fact, I don't know that.

This is, Dan, it's not funny. It's. No, it's not. It's not. You're. I don't, if I, if I don't laugh, I'll start crying on the errand. I'm all cried out. Who sang that? Was that Lisa? Lisa, New York. I don't even remember. You had to be like a, a freestyle fan in New York in the nineties. I can't. I am. I don't have no more tears left. I'm out of moisture. I'm like Dune. When they, when a guy spits on the ground, that's how they share their moisture. It's like a sign of respect. How does this lady have a job? How does this imbecile have a job? We're 60 minutes. We're supposed to be a news organization, and you can't verify that there was a FISA warrant on members of Donald Trump's team. You're incapable of doing that. You're laughing because you know I'm right. You're 60 minutes. You're incapable of. And you're so sure, by the way, you're so sure your alternate universe is correct. You on camera, tell the president, United States, who, by the way, has access to information. You don't. Sir. It didn't happen. Sir. Sir. As she wets her depends.

Undergarments, really? This idiot still has a job? Why am I talking about this now? Because to I almost had a heart attack last night. I watched 60 minutes. Why? Only because it's a life test for me. Sometimes it's like a stress test. I want to make sure we're not in a simulation and my adrenal glands still work. It's the only liberal show I religiously watch. Because the stupid on 60 minutes is exponentially greater because they have a week to prepare than it is anywhere else. I know, but I watch it so you don't have to. I'm watching it. Last night, I even turned off the NCAA tournament to watch. This is how crazy I am. I was actually enjoying the Clemson game. Clemson. Baylor, the play. My friend loves Clemson. My friend Brian Chisholm was a delegate in Maryland. Big shout out. He had a good night. Loves his Clemson team. There. He has it all over wall in his house. I turn off the game to watch your city in 60 minutes, and I'm like, paula, you got to get in here and sit down. Sir Leslie Stahl. No, she hasn't been knighted. This is like the refer.

This is like being unknighted. She's like, this is like the idiot. Sir. Sir Leslie Stall. That's her new name. Sir Leslie runs a report on misinformation. Jim. I swear to you, brother, on my life, I'm like, this is not happening. Sir Leslie Stahl, sir, let is act. She's they. But 60 minutes producers told Sir Leslie Stahl to run a segment on misinformation. You ever seen it? Was it Beavis and butthead or something? Kick me in the gym. You ever see that? This is like, they're no cup. They're kicking you right in the nuts like they. 60 minutes is laughing at you. The dumbest woman on the network who's on video, I just played for you. And audio, being humiliated on her own show, disputing a scandal that unquestionably happened while claiming they're too stupid to figure out it happened. Ran a segment on misinformation and lying in the media. If I was angry, you're going to get angry, too. If you, if you tune out right now, I totally understand. But here, here's about 20 seconds of it, just, just for hilarity purpose, just so you can get a good laugh on a Monday. Here's the Leslie, Sir Leslie Stahl segment on misinformation in the media from the queen of misinformation, Leslie Stahl.

Listen to this. The danger is disinformation could decide the elections in a number of different countries in the US.

He says the right wing has been flooding the Internet with reams of misleading information in order to confuse the public. And he's alarmed by the campaign to silence the academic researchers who have had to spend money and time on demands from Jim Jordan's judiciary committee.

This is epic. The right wing has been spreading misinformation and the left has had to spend money in time. Do you understand? Donald Trump is in court today disputing a $454 million fine for a crime that never happened, on a fraud case with no fraud to pay a victim that doesn't exist. And your Sir Leslie Stahl on video and audio disputing the biggest political scandal of our time, despite a documented paper trail that had actually happened. And you do want to report, folks, this was no cup. No, they said it. Cups off. Line them up. Kick everyone in the nuts right here. That's what 60 minutes, that's what they did, lined up every conservative. They're like this. Boom, boom, boom, boom. They're mocking you now. And they're mocking you because we're winning and we're beating them at their own game. We are. Leslie Stahl hates it. I know you do. You listen to Leslie, Sir Leslie, you listen. How does it make you feel? You become a sound bite on our show. Love it. Up next is a great interview with Jesse Waters. You're going to like this one. But first, our next sponsor.

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Jesse interviewed a lot of people on the liberal fringe and wrote a book about it called get it together. We had a good time together in this interview. Check it out. So it's been a while since we spoke to this guy. He's got a new book out. You know him. You see him on Fox every night, 08:00 p.m. Eastern time. The host of Jesse Waters primetime, Jesse Waters. Jesse, welcome back to the show. Good to talk to you, brother Bungino.

It's great to be back. Thanks, man.

I'm a little mad at you, though, man. I go up to this bookstore in Northvale, New Jersey to do a signing not that long ago. And I asked the guy because we had such a great crowd. I was so impressed. I was, Jesse, I was in the, I'm washing my hands in the bathroom as I'm looking at myself in the mirror, kind of like Sylvester Stallone's looking in mirror and Rocky. And he's like kind of questioning. I'm like, this is great. I kicked asses. Has there ever been a bigger crowd? He said, there has, jesse Waters. I said, I hate him. It was just like a doc Holliday moment, but I hate him. I said, I was, I was very envious. So you got a new book out.

I held on. Say, dan, I have the same problem. Okay. I did about 700 books the other day in Northville, New Jersey. I said, I mean, have you ever seen a crown like this? He looks at me, he goes, John Stamos.

Yes, that is right. He told me the same thing. He said John Stamos had a thousand. Did he tell you that?

He had over a thousand? And he goes, and mostly it wasn't signing. People just wanted their picture taken.

Holy moly. That is the exact same store. That's exactly what he told me, that apparently the books went out pre signed. So I said, well, what's the point of the book signing? Oh, no, they just wanted selfies. I said, man, I got to do that. What a great gig. So you got this book out. It's called get it together, rocking up the top of the charts. Now, you and I, when we were over at Fox, man, we chat a lot. And you used to joke around how you were like an anthropologist working at Bill's show and on your own show where you're out in the field interviewing liberals. And I've heard you talk about this book. Is this kind of like a compilation of all the lessons you've learned in your decorated anthropology career studying people?

You would never be able to write this. You want to know why, Dan? Because you don't suffer fools.

No, I have no interviewing skills at all. Zero.

You don't have the patience to listen to a statue toppler for 3 hours tell you his life story or someone that wants to empty the prisons or open the borders. And that's what I did. I had about two dozen people on the fringe pour their hearts out to me, tell me their entire life history and why they believe what they believe, why they want to legalize drugs, why they want to defund the police. And at the end of this, you realize these people don't have irrational ideology. They have personality disorders. These people have deep mental problems. And what they're doing is they're projecting the problems on the rest of us. They're saying, I don't have any problems. Society is the problem. And we just need to get society to accommodate my issues. But, Dan, you know, that's not working. So we just have to tell these people to get it together and knock it off. No, because we don't use that word anymore. We need to just say no.

You know, that's interesting. Jesse. We're talking to, Jesse Waters has a new book out called get it together. You know, this is the perfect segment. We've been on for 2 hours and we've been discussing how the NBC situation, how this your truth and my truth nonsense. There's no your truth and my truth. There's just truth. I mean, math is math because there's an endgame, there's an output that comes from inputs. But with the left, what you're saying is scary, and I agree with you, is that they have this kind of rage directed at themselves because they're divorced completely from reason. I mean, when you're talking to the statue toppler you interviewed for your book, you probably said to me like, you know, something like, okay, so there are people in the past who made historical mistakes. You mean like people right now? So, like what I don't like, what's your barometer for success then? No mistakes. I don't get. It's not even reasonable.

So this guy obviously had a traumatic upbringing, reservation alcoholism, or the other woman that was marching with Black Lives Matter, wealthy lady had daddy issues, or this other person that ended up being in the sex industry. It was a revenge fantasy. A lot of these people just have emotional problems and they're making their problems, our problems. And none of this is rational at all. So that's why you got to get these people early. Once they're in their twenties, thirties and forties, goodbye. You can't debate these people. You can't reason with these people. They have rage. They have sociopathic problems. You got to get them while they're young. And what I found out, Dan, is that most of these people had no dads. They had alcohol abuse in the family. They had sexual abuse, but a lot of them had no dads or barstool dads or neglectful dads. And if you don't have a father, you don't have discipline, you don't have boundaries. You're then lashing out and you're looking for boundaries throughout your adulthood. You're angry. And this is, we're dealing with a problematic generation that is destroying this country because they have emotional issues and we can't tolerate that.

We can't accommodate their problems.

So, Jesse, Jesse Waters has a new book out called get it together. Pick it up today. Jesse, were there any breakthroughs? I mean, are you talking as you're talking to these liberals? Obviously, divorce from reality and divorce from reason. More important, were there any breakthroughs? Whereas you're in this kind of sit down back and forth. They're like, okay, maybe that makes sense. Did you see any kind of eyes open? And from your left, I can guess the answer is no.

Well, I mean, some of you, you have epiphanies in some of these, and not all of them are these deadly serious things. We interviewed a woman who's an ecosexual. And Dan, I know you don't know what that means, but this is a woman who gets physically aroused when she engages in mother Nature, when she buries herself in the sand at the beach, or when someone beats her with the tree branch. And I said, well, does that make you a lesbian since you're in a relationship with mother Earth? And she goes, I don't see Mother Earth as a mother. I see Mother Earth as a lover. So these are the kind of people, and it's, you know, these are, it's funny, but, you know, when they start kind of intruding on normal society, that's when it becomes an issue. For instance, we interviewed a woman who has an emotional support squirrel. She decides she wants to bring the emotional support squirrel on an airplane to go from Florida to Ohio. Now, if you're sitting next to someone in coach, which I know you don't do anymore, Dan, but say you're in coach. And this woman has a squirrel on her lap, and it's an emotional support squirrel.

I mean, I'm at it by us.

Marshals, and she couldn't realize why this was unacceptable. So, you know, you have funny stories like that, and some of these stories are just hilarious. They'll make you laugh, but some of this stuff makes you cry, too. Get it together. Get the book right now. You're gonna love it.

Fun. Gino, do you remember when you, you just reminded me of a story you had filmed the roadshow down here in Florida at my friend's studio one time. Do you remember? You were interviewing the squirrel guy or the square and the guy didn't want to put the squirrel on camera. My buddy was there. He was like, they were like, I know. They were like. Jesse was like, this is the whole point. Where's the squirrel, bro? Like, we're not here for you.

I never lose my pay. I never lose it. But I was screaming.

I was like, do it live.

You know, angry.

We'll do it live. If, you know, you know, folks, we'll do it live. That's hilarious.

I melted down.

My buddy was like, he was great. He's like, dude, we love you, but where's the darn squirrel? Like, we're not really here for you. We're here for the squirrel. We're talking to Jesse Waters. He has a new book out called get it together. Pick it up today. Jesse, I know you're busy. I'll let you run, but I can't let you go without asking your opinion on this NBC thing. I mean, you and I were at Fox. You were there a lot longer than me. Still there, obviously host the APM show. One thing about Fox is on any given day, you could be sitting in the green room because you host multiple shows. But when you're a host there, you could be guest hosting. You could be in a guest segment. You know how it is. On any given day, you could be in the green room for 8 hours, and in the green room will be anyone from Barstool sports to Marie harf. And everybody just kind of does their thing and they chat. I mean, I'm not, you know what I'm saying? I'm not making it up. And there's no, nobody's fist fighting in there.

And I think the reason the five, another one of your shows is so entertaining is you and Jessica or Harold and the judge, whatever. You'll go at it on any given day and you don't know what's going to happen. But these networks like NBC are so weak and pathetic and predictable that even a mainstream moderate Republican like Ronnie McDaniel, they can't even, they can't even have her on the set. I mean, that's an embarrassing joke.

Well, when the fox hired you, I went on my show and I revolted.

I said, I will not, I saw that. I know. I called my lawyer immediately. I was like, I can't believe it. I'm sad.

I mean, you look at as an opportunity, right? Like, let's say we, let's say we hire someone that believed in the Russia hoax, right? And you didn't you book them on the show and you debate.

I had Jesse, I had a segment on my Saturday show, the debate segment with, we had to remember Hawk Newsom, the BLM guy. He was on there. We had Obama people on there. The best part of the show was listening to these liberal idiots say liberal idiot stuff, is it not?

And that's what you want until you want drama, you want a debate, you want a little confrontation. And you do want to hear from both sides and you can hash it out, you know, Jessica, or whether it was Geraldo or Juan, we cut each other down and we call each other idiots. But then we go to commercial break and it's fine. And that's what it should be, right? Like these. But what NBC is doing, what they've done for the last six years, is any MAGA Republican they have designated as an enemy of the state, as an insurrectionist, as someone that needs to be censored, de platformed, prosecuted, not someone they're going to invite into polite society. And then suddenly the NBC brass, maybe they don't watch their own network, didn't get the memo that these people were supposed to be banished, hired a MAGA Republican and they revolted. And the inmates are running the asylum over there and it's a colossal embarrassment. But that's what social, they're socially stigmatizing anyone associated with Donald Trump. And when he gets reelected, and we think he will, anybody who works for him in any capacity, they're not going to get book deals or they're not going to get invited to be contributors at these places.

This is how sick they are. This is, this is how deranged they are. This is how they feel about their fellow Americans. They fight MAGA Republicans harder than ISIS.

Yeah, it's embarrassing. It really is. I mean, there's no one better to comment on. Like I said, you have a Democrat panelist on the five every single day. It's really sad that they can't defend their ideas. The new book, folks, by Jesse Waters is called get it together. It's rocketing up the charts. Pick it up today. Jesse, thanks a lot for coming on. You're welcome back anytime. Good luck with the book.

Thanks so much. Miss you, buddy.

Yeah, miss you, too, brother. Thanks for coming on. Jesse Waters, folks. Get it together is the book. He was always a good man to me. I always appreciate that. But what I said to him there, I absolutely mean, you'd sit in a green room. It's a professional work environment. Believe me, there were a lot of political conversations in the green room. I had a ton of political conversations with Donna Brazile and everyone else. We talk about everything from, she loved, she was a big fan, I think, of gumbo and she'd always have some recipe for it. But then 5 seconds later we go into how terrible Al Gore was. But then, you know, you take it on the air and you debate it on the air. It's the best part about political tv. Imagine an entire show where everybody's like, yep, you're right. No, you're right. No, you're writer. No, you're righter than writer than that guy. No, you're definitely right. What the hell's the point of that? The best part of the show is the debates. I mean, my entire early reputation on Fox was fighting with Geraldo on Hannity. I love that. What?

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I want to welcome to the show the author of the book becoming a mega bestseller here, bad therapy. Abigail Schreier. Thank you. Welcome to the show. Thank you for writing this book. It's a topic I think we all need to be concerned about.

Oh, thank you so much for having me on, Dan. It's a great honor to meet you and talk to you.

Oh, you as well. So this book has been tearing it up. I'm on social media, Abigail, all day. It's my job to see what's going on and follow the trends. And a lot of people I follow were writing about your book. And one of the premises of the book here is that this model we have now of the helicopter parent, don't let your kids scrape the knees. You know, don't let your kid go anywhere without six inches of padding and 22 helmets on. That this may actually be causing some problems rather than solving it the way generally have the eight second elevator pitch, though.

That's exactly right. Basically it's called bad therapy. Why the kids aren't growing up. And the two things are related. These kids are awash in diagnosis. They don't need therapy. They don't need therapeutic parenting. Constantly feelings focused, constantly accommodating their bad feelings. And unfortunately, it's led to a generation that is exhibiting the known harms of too much therapy. And the known harms include things like greater anxiety, greater depression, greater feelings of inefficacy. We've got a generation that doesn't think it can do for itself. It doesn't feel resilient. And unfortunately, it isn't resilient right now. We need to turn that around.

Talking to Abigail Schreier, author of the book Bad Therapy. Abigail, is there, are we inadvertently, because, you know, I don't think parents would do this deliberately. I mean, unless they were. I mean, I'm sure there are some awful parents that just might. Some kind of Munchausen by proxy, but I'm talking about your regular, average parent that probably thinks they're doing the right thing, but aren't. Are we actually teaching these kids to be victims by, you know, over medicating them, over counseling them, and not letting them prod around the world themselves? I mean, I'm not suggesting we should allow them, you know, stick a butter knife in an electric socket, but we can't protect them from every fall on a two wheeler when they want to get on a bike. And I think we're teaching them to be victims. And we've kind of almost created this snowflake generation.

That's right. We did that. And it wasn't on purpose, but I think it did happen. Remember, we used to hear things like shake it off, knock it off. You know, sticks and stones may break my bones. That all had a lot of wisdom to it. And, in fact, what we're doing is the opposite. We're teaching kids that anything, any little harm could be trauma. That elementary kids, if they got picked on or they got teased a little bit, have PTSD, it's not true. It was never true, but it's doing them real harm. We have a generation, less than half of the rising generation will say that its mental health is good. They have talked themselves into mental illness, essentially, and we have participated in that by always catering to their feelings and obsessing about their feelings. And these generation thinks their feelings is the most important thing, and they're never able to ignore their feelings. And that's a real problem.

I wanted to ask you this question as well, because I'm one of the things that's fascinated me about this over counseling and creation of this victim culture with our kids is also the over medicating of kids. Abigail, some of these drugs out there right now, whether they were the Ritalin's or adderalls, a lot of these drugs are stimulant type drugs. These are serious drugs. I know adults who have taken them for various reasons. I know people who've taken them recreationally. And I've done all kinds of things. These are serious compounds. I mean, these are the kinds of things where an adult fully formed brain, if you've taken some of these things for the first time, you're. I mean, you're like, you can't sleep. You. Sometimes it's almost hard to focus, even though they're supposed to make you focus because they're so powerful. And yet we're delivering these things to kids like, like tic tacs and rolos or something like that with no concept of what the long term damage might be from that.

That's right. And unfortunately, you know, the thing that's changed the most is dads. Dads used to have more be allowed to exercise. Some break on the psychopathology of, you know, psychopathologization of boys especially. But all kids, they operated as a little bit of a break on mom. And they would say, he's fine. He can keep playing. But now, unfortunately, dads have been convinced that they are. They don't know enough about their kids brains. They don't know enough about trauma. It isn't true. It was never true. But now they're not able to say, he's fine. He doesn't have ADHD, okay. He doesn't have oppositional defiance disorder. He just needs to be told no.

Yeah, no is a powerful word. We're talking to Abigail Schreier, author of the book Bad Therapy. Highly, highly recommended. You said something there I really want to focus on because it's the kind of thing that elicits a really incredible response, and I mean that in a qualitatively bad way. From the left, I was doing some testimony up on Capitol Hill one time about police issues. Abigail and I brought up the dad in the home question, how the correlation is ironclad between the growing prevalence of fathers missing from the home and, you know, sociopathic criminal type behavior, that there's got to be some tie there. The correlation is so strong, it can't be ignored. And, Abigail, this guy on the panel who was a leftist, who shall remain nameless, absolutely lost his mind. They can go back and you can check it out now. That's probably still in some C SpaN library. He. They lose their minds. It's like they, you know, they want to blame governing systems and say, oh, if we just implemented this new form of bigger government, we could fix these problems. Yet they ignore the obvious thing. You just said that a father loves a child differently than a mother.

Not better, not worse. It's different. I have two daughters. One daughter. I had Abigail, she loved when I threw her up in the air, she loved it. I stir up in the air like four or 5ft and catch her. Daddy catches my other daughter. Hated it. The first time I did it, she cried. So I never did it again. You know, you roughhouse with them. You teach them that forms of, say, physical behavior are not necessarily or, you know, there are limits and boundaries, but dads love their kids different. And when you remove the dad from the home, I could make the case to you, and probably you make a better case to me. This is the genesis of a lot of this malicious behavior we see in our streets right now.

Absolutely. And here's the thing, that when kids, when fathers threw their kids up in the air, they were beta testing them. They were saying, don't worry, I'll catch you. I know you're going to be a little scared, but we're going to learn to face your fear. And that was a huge thing for kids. And now dads are told you have to do everything the way the parenting expert says, and it's the way mom says, and the parenting expert is a therapist, and the children are much more fragile than you realize, and you are. You are causing trauma. It's not true. It was never true. But here's the problem. We're giving kids unhealthy lives where they're constantly monitored, where there isn't a dad around, where there is no belief that they are strong and they can go off and do things by themselves without being monitored. We give them this unhealthy life. We don't punish, we never tell them no. And then when they act out, we pour in mental health resources expecting that to cure an unhealthy life, it's not going to cure it. It only makes it worse. These kids need family around. They need cousins, siblings, grandma and grandpa.

They need to be told what grandma and grandpa went through, what the family went through, the hard times. They need to know they can get through it, too.

Abigail, last question. I'll let you go, folks. Check the book out by Abigail Schreier. It's bad therapy. You know, how do you talk when you talk to parents about this? But I'm sure the reason this book has become so popular is because you speak to something we all care about, obviously, our kids. But the concerns some of them have, me included, are not illegitimate. I want to watch my kid when she goes out jogging down the street. Because we see these stories. I mean, they're rare, but they do happen, you know, woman kidnapped, jogging, oh, my gosh, I'm going to be my kid. But we quietly know that your book is right, that you're probably incentivizing victim type behavior if you're going to just helicopter parent, not let your kids explore the world on their own. So what do you say to parents who are trying to balance that? Like, hey, I'd love my kid to go out on the bike, but, you know, three weeks ago in whatever, Tuscaloosa, some kid got kidnapped. I mean, how do we, how do we balance that?

Parents need to get a handle on their own anxiety. If you could handle something, your kid can too. And if you don't develop their musculature to handle things that are normal parts of life, like walking to the store by themself at a certain age or walking home from school, they will never learn to navigate those things. You have to make. We spend way too much time worrying about is my kid happy? And way too little time worrying about am I making my kids strong?

Such a good point. I played audio of Jensen Hwang, the CEO Nvidia talking the other day about the value of suffering. How built, oh, it's incredible how resilience is only built through suffering. The book is called bad therapy. It has been tearing up the charts for now a couple of weeks. Abigail, was such a pleasure to have you on. We would, we would love to have you back. I know you speak on other topics as well, so you're welcome anytime. Thanks for coming on.

Oh, thank you. I would love to. Always. Really a pleasure. Thank you so much, Dan.

You got it, folks. I'm not kidding. The book has been tearing it up. I follow social media all day and I think it's because of that specific topic, that question I asked last, we all have, what do we do with our kid? Do we just. The answer is, I think she's right. We have to deal with our own anxiety around the issue. We're more worried than they are. Watch them go down the street to the store. You don't even have to let them know you watch. Give a little peek. Let them do their thing. You don't got to wave to them every two minutes. I mean, gosh, when I grew up, my daughter jokes with me. Now. I know, dad, you walk 3 miles to school, to St. Pancras. Right. But I did. But I did. Resilience, power of suffering, bad therapy is the. Thanks for listening to the special Sunday podcast. You want to check out my radio show, go to bongino.com, comma. Click on station Finder and find out where on you and join us every day at 11:00 a.m. On rumble@rumble.com. Bongino for the daily podcast. See you next week. You just heard Dan Bongino.