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Billy Gill. God bless football. stuga, me and you.

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Little Thanksgiving week, huh?

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Yeah. Where's Mikey A?

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I don't know.

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Where's Golick? Where is everyone?

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I mean, they'll be here later today.

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They will be.

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They will be in just a little Thanksgiving week episode.

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It is. You excited? I mean yeah, you know, I mean, Thanksgiving, it's a great holiday.

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I do like Thanksgiving.

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Do you? Yeah. Is it weird doing this? Like we're releasing this like midweek? It's a little bit weird, right?

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Midweek release, you know. But it's fine. It's not a big deal.

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Okay. Yeah. We have Chris Sims coming up here in just a few minutes. Austin Eckler going to join us as well. Mike Golick, senior, of course, is going to join us and then we have the guys getting together to make the picks. Are you excited for a black Friday dolphins jet game, Billy?

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I am excited.

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Are you? Yeah.

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It's going to give me something to do on a Friday.

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You're right. Hang out with the family.

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Well, I could hang out with the family. I could do a little shopping. I'll probably do a little online shopping, but yeah, a little football game.

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Do you feel like there's an opportunity here? I'm being serious for the Dolphins because of what's happened in the AFC chiefs aren't as good. Josh Allen, the bills are down a bit. The ravens are there's question marks there as like you have an opportunity here. I've been telling you all year, if the dolphins get home field advantage, they're going to go to the super bowl. If they get it in the playoffs, they're going to go to the super bowl. They play the ravens at Baltimore late in the season. But you have a real chance here because mahomes and the chiefs are not as good. Josh Allen, bills, not as good. Joe Burrow is injured. You got a lot going your way.

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Yeah. I don't want anyone to get hurt this week.

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That's it.

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Survive in advance, this all.

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So you don't feel like there's an opportunity in front?

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There's a little opportunity, but like yeah, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

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Okay. You know what I mean? One week at a time.

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By the way, speaking of opportunities, you want the opportunity to compete against us in fantasy weekly, go to DKNG co levitard. Last week I finished like 665th place.

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Or something in the money.

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Not even close. I am on a cold streak, okay. I had the situation last week where I drafted someone who got hurt in Devin HHan, which was not great.

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I did the same thing.

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I got HN, he got hurt and then they kept him out for, I don't know, I guess safety reasons or whatever. So that didn't go well for me. And then I also made the mistake of gambling on Noah Brown playing and he did not. So had lots of people give me zero points last week.

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He didn't play at all.

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He did not play at all.

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No. That sucks. Yeah, it did.

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Very much did.

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I feel bad for you.

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And then I thought, you know what I'm going to do.

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I don't. But I do.

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Well, here's here's where it got really not not great is I decided for whatever reason, let me gamble and think that the jets defense is going to have a big week and josh allen's going to kind of continue with the turnover thing.

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You took the jets.

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Didn't go well for me, did you really? Yeah, I did.

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So I want to thank the jets because I was down so much money headed into the 04:00 games and it was so nice just to sit back. I bet the bills, like everything I was down, I put it on the bills. And so I just want to thank the jets for being that bad. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. All right, who are we going to first here? We're going to chris sims. Is that where we're going first?

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Chris sims and find out what he does on thanksgiving.

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Eckler will join us. By the way, we're surprised because on monday we did god bless football recap and we thought brandon staley would be fired by now. He's not. We'll talk to eckler about that goal looking to join us as well. And the guys will make the picks. God bless football, billy. God bless football.

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To guests. Happy thanksgiving, everybody. Chris, your bosses don't want you to have a happy thanksgiving. You have to work twice this week.

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Yeah, no, I don't have to work at all on thanksgiving. It's actually nothing.

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Your network has.

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What time should I be there?

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What? Your network has seahawks and niners. No.

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Yeah, but because the NFL and the second game, the cowboys versus commander starts at 430, it rolls right into our game. Right to where there's no point in having a pregame show like who the is going to be watching the pregame show when there's a game on and it's the cowboys and know NBC. Rightly. So does a good thing and doesn't know all of us waste our time on a thanksgiving to just come in to do a show to say we're doing a show. So they'll roll right to it and you'll have tariqo and collinsworth on and it'll be right ready for football. So it is great. I'm so happy I don't have to work on thanksgiving. It's my favorite holiday of the year.

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How about big your dad, is he working? What's happening there?

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He is working. Yeah, because CBS, they got the lions game this year.

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All right.

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So they'll do the first game and we'll go to their house for thanksgiving and we do like a late thanksgiving dinner and we'll wait for him and we probably won't eat till about six or six. So, yeah, he does have to work. But it's a great day. I love it. I'll get a little family football game in somewhere after the Lions game and before the Cowboys game starts in the backyard, make everybody get out. You know, I'll carve family as all time quarterback, as usual.

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I would pay money, billy and I think Billy would too. I think you would. I would pay money to see the Sims family football game in the backyard. I would.

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And like do you going, we got to go. I usually get cussed out by the family because I hold everybody in the huddle too long. I try to be Johnny off as a coordinator and I'm like, you go here and this way and that way and this way. And my son will be yelling at me. He'd be like, you're not Kyle Shanahan.

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Concept.

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Hurry up, we're freezing.

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He says it because he can. That's why he said wait. So do you and Phil, how does this work?

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Do you wait for my dad's? Never there.

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Okay.

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So it's usually like me and a bunch of the kids and probably know my wife and somebody else versus my brother and the rest of the family. And I'll get it all going double reverses. I got to get the kids involved, right? You get them involved, they get emotionally invested and they pie hard for me. So I make sure I get them some reverses in the ball a little bit and then they go all out on defense and offense from there on out.

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So are the kids the ones that are kind of having this happen? Because I feel in most families it's like the kids have to drag a parent into this. It very much seems like you are dragging the whole family out into the yard to do this.

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It's not dragging, but I'm definitely the organizer. It's not dragging. The family will be like, definitely, hey, Christopher, when are we going to go out? And my sister will ask and then the kids will start to ask and then it is on me to kind of go, hey, everybody, let's go. Here we go. This team, that team. The kids always want to be on my team because they know it's going to be fun and I'm going to bring the energy. And like I said, we get double reverses and we get all these trick plays going to where the kids will always be like, uncle Christopher, I want to be on your team. I want to be on your team. So it's a lot of fun.

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You put some zip on that pass or you kind of soften it up.

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We want to win the football game. We got to make it catchable.

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Has anyone ever gotten injured during the game?

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No injuries yet. Let's knock on wood. There nothing. There nothing quite yet. So hopefully I'm the only one that we worried about getting injured. I mean, I'm the one that's usually a little drunk and a lot high and the one that has preexisting injuries. So I'm literally, like, right before the game starts, like, doing squats in place to make sure I get a little warm first.

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Do you give out awards like MVP, Turkey, leg, anything?

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No, nothing like that. Nothing like that. But we just want to win. Just win, baby. That's our motto.

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Chris, what is wrong with the Chiefs offense?

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Well, I mean, one, they don't catch the ball all that well. Two, I don't think there's a game breaking receiver, of course, that opens up the field for them, or as we've talked about with other teams right. Just the guy who can catch a short pass and really rip off another 30 or 40 yards after that. So they're kind of missing that element of their football team.

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Right.

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And then I think when you look on top of that, I don't think their offense is as creative with Matt Nagy as it was with Eric Bienemy. I think those would be the two things that jump off the screen to me. Now, the silver lining know, again, people were open the other night, right, catching the football. It was on the Chiefs. I certainly don't want to blame Matt Nagy, and I don't look at the offense and go, oh, wow, it's so horrible. I just think it misses a few wrinkles and game plan plays that I used to see a little bit more with Eric Bienemy at the helm. All right, but the silver lining is you do still have Mahomes. They still are going to, I think, have the ability to be surgical as they go here forward. They're going to get it right to a degree. Is it going to look like the 2019 Chiefs or something like that? No, that's not going to happen. But the other thing is running the ball, I haven't seen anybody move the Eagles D line like the Chiefs did the other night.

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Crazy.

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I mean, in the last two years, nobody has moved the Eagles D line like the So. You know, that is something I think that's going to be a legit part of their attack as they go forward. They do have a very good offensive line. Their interior three are phenomenal. The tackles are big. They're not the best at pass protection, and they're going to have to play through their defense and then just expect Mahomes to make a little magic here and there. But it's not going to fix itself, and they're going to become one of the best offenses in football as we come down the home stretch here, are.

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They still good enough to win a Super Bowl?

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Yes, they are, but it's going to be a different way in which we've seen them ever win a Super Bowl.

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Right.

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And their offense does have to improve a little bit here. Again, what we saw before the by week, what we saw the other night, certainly wasn't good enough, but I think they have it in them and did.

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Yeah.

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Be a handful. Still on that side of the ball with him making some magic and that defense that yes, they're still good enough to win the Super Bowl.

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They are. Chris, you have the Ravens on Sunday night. Ravens and Chargers. We'll get to the Chargers here in a second, but because Kansas City is not as good as they've been in years past, still Super Bowl. Super bowl good according to you? Because Joe Burrow is out, because Aaron Rodgers got injured four plays into the season, and because the teams in the you know, some of the Bills being one of them aren't as good as we thought they would be. Is there pressure here on Lamar Jackson? This is the best chance I feel like Lamar's had to win a Super Bowl.

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Is there pressure here for mean? It does seem like it's presenting itself for Know more than ever before. Yeah, there's pressure. I mean, there's pressure because he's one of the highest paid players in Know. He's only won one playoff game. Right. And we hold him to an elite quarterback tier or type of player. Their defense is right up there with Cleveland and the best in football. You said it right. Cleveland. No. Deshaun Watson. Burrow out of the mix. The Chiefs not playing their best. Jacksonville's good, but it's young and it's still not, you know, how's that going to translate on the road and cold and their offense hasn't been as explosive and the defense is getting I I hear your point there. It's a year. Here where it's shaping up to where, as I've said all week, when I know the Eagles are the best team in football, but when I look at teams when they're at their best, the Ravens and the 49 Ers when they're at their best, to me still look like the most impressive teams in the sport. And it's there to be had this year. And let's just see if they could stay healthy and keep on this upward trajectory as the season goes along here.

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Mikey, hold off 1 second. You're saying they're better than the Eagles?

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I think at their best from what I've seen this year, their best, the 49 Ers and the Ravens has impressed me more than the Eagles best. If you make me rank the best teams in football, I'm still going to pick the Eagles because the Eagles find a way to win every week. And there is something to that. They don't ever have that big let down right. That we've seen the Ravens and the Chiefs have or the Ravens and the 49 Ers have a little bit, but yeah, at that peak, whoa, they went through a stretch during the game or had a one or two game stretches where they played great football. I think their peak football is better than the Eagles right now. Yeah, I do feel that way.

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It was funny watching Chiefs Eagles where all the talk is about Travis Kelsey, of course, and Jason Kelsey, of course. And they're focusing on his center, which is really funny. Even the announcing crew is. And they're talking about Patrick Mahomes and the person they're not talking about. And I think he likes it this way, and he might be the best player on the field. Chris is Jalen Hurts, and he went out and did what Jalen Hurts does, which is he won the.

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Know it's. It was a great team performance. Jalen Hurts played really well, or he was big in big moments. It's one of those games where I don't know, did the Eagles win or did the Chiefs just find a way to lose? That's kind of how I feel about it, right? The Chiefs I felt like, and Joe Buck said this right when the game was 1714, the Eagles made it 1714.

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He goes.

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Somehow this game is 1714.

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Correct.

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And it doesn't feel like it should be. The Chiefs with the drops, the bad interception in the end zone with a wide open receiver. Kelsey Fumbling. Third down, drops that are going to keep the drives going. It wasn't like they were drops where it was like, oh, it's first down. It's no big deal. They were like, in the biggest moments. Fourth down at the end of the game. Two third downs with the other, Justin Watson. And Travis kelsey drops. Justin Watson not running straight on a go route when he's got a guy beat. And Mahomes throws it perfect. And he turns and follows his head and ends up five yards inside.

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Right.

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There was just some things there where, like I said, there was a silver lining for the Chiefs. But back to your point with the Know, they don't lose games. I think that's what makes them great. I think that's what the surprising thing they lost the Super Bowl last year is that felt like they kind of lost it to a degree. Traditionally, they don't. That's what makes them awesome. And they have so many ways to beat you right. Even though Hertz wasn't great early on, their defense keeps them in there and makes plays and does all that. And where I say Hertz is better than last year compared to this year is he does make more plays to me that are impressive in the pocket with his right arm than last year compared to this year. Now, it's still not perfect on that offensive side of the ball, and him turning the ball, know is still an issue as well. But with those two receivers, that line and him at quarterback, man, they're tough to stop.

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Another week, another offensive coordinator gets fired. One, what do you make of the Steelers firing Matt Canada?

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And two, do you think it could fix Kenny Pickett?

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Well, I don't know if it's going to fix anything. It might give them a little energy. Bump Mike Sullivan might bring some new things to the table as far as, like, hey, the Bengals. Oh, we haven't seen Pittsburgh's offense do this.

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Whoa.

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They came out here and did you know? I don't think there's going to be any major fix here on the offensive side of the ball. Hopefully, though, there can be a few more creative ideas. It's just, as you guys know, it's so bland and simple right now. They've run the ball with a little success here, but, yeah, hopefully they can infuse a few more pass concepts and ideas to get going, you know? But Pickett needs a system. This is one of the reasons I didn't love Pickett coming out in the draft right. Was just because I didn't see anything elite about his you know, I tend to go towards that guy that has a few elite traits over the guy that go it's good in a lot of areas, but I see nothing great. It's just a barely above average, you know, barely above average athleticism. He's not real big to where he can stand in there and make big throws with people hanging around him. And then, of course, the offense doesn't give him much help either. Hopefully it helps. I expect them to beat the Bengals in an ugly Steelers type of football game without Joe Burrow.

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I think it fits them quite well in this matchup.

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Chris, does Zach Wilson come back from.

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This, like, not on the mean in.

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The be he's done on the jets, right?

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Yeah, he's done on the right, right? Yeah.

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Is he done forever? I don't think he's done. You know, as you guys know this, when you're a top or first round pick in the NFL, you get nine lives. That's the first thing. I mean, how many guys have we seen where it's like he was a 10th pick in the draft. He sucked his whole career, and here he is on his 9th team in the 8th year of his career because teams are still going, wait, I had a good evaluation back on him and back in 2013, and I think we could be the team that actually makes him look like that. Right? I mean, that's the way teams think at times.

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Whose voice are you doing there? Whose voice is that? Who is that?

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I don't know. Dumb scouting guy or dumb GM in the NFL.

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Hey, I saw something. Hey, I saw yeah, I saw something in 2014.

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I'm telling you, we can make him into what we thought he could be.

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Devil's advocate, though. Second round pick gino Smith.

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No, I hear you.

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No, Zach Wilson will be good ten years later on the West Coast somewhere.

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I hear you there. There's some examples of to your point, Billy, of it working sometimes of guys that are journey men, first round picks, and then all of a sudden they find the right spot and they carve out a nice little niche for themselves and the situation's, right? But I think like Zach Wilson. He will be in the NFL next year and he's going to be like a third stringer for some team, right. That's just going to go, hey, he's got talent. Let's see if we can bring him in and kind of rewire the robot a little and teach him how to play football. The one thing I feel bad about Zach Wilson is he's been in like, you can't pick really worse situations for a young quarterback and the ones he's been know and then of course, he's done some things that have hurt himself. But in the perfect world, you'd love to see him go to a place like Kansas City, be the third stringer. There's no pressure on you. Learn the game a little bit, watch my homes do that. And then hopefully one day as you hang around the NFL, you get a chance, you know, starter, backup.

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Yeah.

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That's nowhere in the near future, that's for sure.

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Mikey A, if you had to bet an amount of money that meant something to you, will Zach Wilson have a moment, a game, a half, a quarter where we are sitting on our couches at home just cursing him out? Will he have that, Mikey, at any point in his career?

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No.

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Yeah, he will. No. Unless I'm with Billy on that. We will have that moment.

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There will be a game or a quarter where he comes in and takes over someone. They're like, whoa, yes, we were wrong about him.

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Mom just down for a little bit.

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Chris, should I be worried about.

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Again?

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It's like the quarterback thing in New York is not going to be fixed here. It's not like, oh, man, right. The offense is not good. We've talked about this a lot. It just was way too predicated on Rogers and him calling plays at the line of scrimmage and therefore that affected the way they kind of set up the offense, set up the personnel, everything, the all lines. That good. Billy, your Miami Dolphins defense continues to get better and better. Right. I think the big thing with this football know, hey, the jets does Bries Hall maybe break a big run and they go down and maybe score one touchdown, maybe a field goal at some point on top of that, if you're the know, hey, don't make mistakes in this one. On the offensive side of the ball, don't let the jets defense strip sack, fumble hit you as you're throwing. Be a little conservative on that side of the ball if you're tua and company jets defense is still talented, still a pain in the ass, whatever, but take the slow death approach rather than let's go for the jugular early on and try to make it just blow them out of the water.

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I just think slowly but surely, the Dolphins will wear down that jets defense and wear down that jets football team. In general. I think I got them winning like 24 to ten or 27 to ten somewhere right in that range.

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PFD with Mike Florio every day on Peacock, the unbuttoned podcast football night in America. Chargers and Ravens this Sunday night. I want to bet Billy on something. My bet here is that you and your dad love Tommy DeVito so much you want this to work out. You want him to be the Giants quarterback for the next twelve years. Am I right or wrong?

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No, you're not right.

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Okay.

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But I do like me some Tommy DeVito.

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All right, there we go.

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Get some chicken farm and some New Jersey football here, right? Tommy DeVito, I followed him for a long time. He went to my brother's high school, don Bosco Prep, which is a dominant Catholic high school in North Jersey. So I've known about him for a long time. I do think last week gives them a little confidence, will give the coaching staff confidence to open up the offense a little, know, I wouldn't be shocked if they beat the Patriots. This mean the Patriots, they got nothing special, let alone it just seems like it's gloomy and doomy and shitty there. The Giants are still fighting, right. And they know like, day ball is going to be there next year. He's not getting fired, so they're still going to play for their coach and DeVito's got something to play for and their defense is still a pain in the ass. The Patriots. The quarterback situation. Belichick doesn't sound like he's going to be there no matter what next year. I picked the Giants to win an ugly field goal game. Honestly, it was kind of one of my upsets of the week this week.

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Nice. All right. PFT with Mike Florio every day on Peacock, the unbutton podcast football night in America. We love him. He's great. I want a full recap of the backyard football game, okay, from you and your brother. All right. You tackle kids, don't you, SIM? You do. You've tackled them before.

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No, I don't tackle them.

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I don't.

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I'm always good with the kids. Like I said, I usually have the kids on my team right to where then if it gets a little too physical, I yell at the other team and go, they're kids. Would you let them run down the field? I mean, jeez.

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Right?

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I use that to my advantage a little bit. I make them feel bad the rest of my family, but yeah, no, last year we won the game. Last play of the game, like, sent everybody deep. We were kind of close to the end zone, and I had my fast little nephew who's like six years old. I was like, you just hang over here in the flat, and when I look at you, you run underneath crossing the field and I'm just going to shovel it to you. And he caught it and he ran up the sideline and we won. On Thanksgiving, we're going for the victory tomorrow too.

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He remembers the details from last year.

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Pretty good for a guy that was stoned and drunk that I can remember those details. It's pretty good.

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He's been watching game tape.

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We're game planning. We're ready to go.

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That little kid could.

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That'S my sister's kid, patrick Toll. Patrick Toll.

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Yep.

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Between my sister and his dad, brian Toll is maybe the greatest high school football player in the history of New Jersey. Right. He played middle linebacker and fullback as a true freshman for Boston College. He was the ACC freshman of the year and had a pretty serious neck injury at the end of his early in his junior year, and it derailed his life, as you know, that can do. And he never got a chance to play in the NFL because of it.

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This took a depressing turn.

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Don't know how to he's okay.

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He's doing good.

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Working on Wall Street.

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He's got a big house, so don't worry.

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I didn't know how to go from that. Know? Happy Thanksgiving. I didn't know what to do.

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Happy Thanksgiving. All right, you three stooges. I always enjoy it. Have a good day tomorrow. Have fun.

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Live it up a little bit. We'll have a good day, but not as good as yours. Jesus Christ.

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Well, you can try. Compete. Compete a little bit.

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Why don't you have Billy up to the house for Thanksgiving one year? You should do next year.

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Let's do it next year.

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Okay. I'd love that Billy. You talk about tackling people. I'd tackle Billy on Thanksgiving.

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That's why I selected him. See you later, budy. Have a good Thanksgiving.

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All right, guys.

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See you. Happy Thanksgiving. All right, man. You too, Billy. I got a call on my way home from one of my daughters saying, what'd you say about Travis?

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Oh, no.

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Dagats has invented that. The Chiefs fans have turned on Travis Kelsey.

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No, they will turn on Travis. Kelsey, mike. They will eventually.

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Why?

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Mike, if they continue to lose games, super bowl champions, all right? They continue to lose games. He has some drops. He had a big fumble in the red zone last night. The second you stop making your fans feel good is the second the fans turn their backs on you, Mike. That's my feeling, okay? You take away their feel good, you take away their winning, because you're not focused on football, okay? Or at least the perception is you're not focused on football. You're shooting commercials, you're doing a podcast, and you're dating the most famous person in the world. My theory is fans in Kansas City will start to turn on Travis Kelsey.

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You're 100% correct. I mean, we build up to tear down, right? We build up. The guy's a hall of famer. He and his brother are both going in the hall of Fame. But as soon as anything starts to slip, you look for reasons why, and they'll say, well, yeah, now he's too busy. And in my opinion, it has zero to do with what's going on on the field.

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Agree.

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But that's what people will do. Hell, I was an average player and I have people telling me in the grocery store in Philadelphia, why are you out shopping? You should be home watching film. And now multiply that by a million for a future hall of Famer if they are not up to what standards you believe they should be. And he's still a great tight end without question. He gets double and triple covered all the time. They left him in to chip some as well. So he has to go out into routes late because their tackles are struggling. But he has a drop and it's the weather out. So that happens. And give Roby all the credit in the world from the Eagles for punching that ball out.

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It's very important. I don't think these things either. I agree with you, but it is great, Billy. It is great when I throw out one of these theories to have Michael's voice help validate okay. Credibility, Billy.

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I mean no, the thing is that you are afraid to be the one to say it, but you still want to say it. So you're hiding behind the fans saying this. Yeah, just say it.

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Own it.

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Be the one to say it.

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Be the first. I'm just warning my friend Travis that if he's driving around Kansas City listening to the big sports radio station locally there, I don't know what it is anymore. But if he is, he's going to start hearing that if this continues. That's all I'm saying. Mike agrees with me.

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We can and he's not going to care.

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Mike, do you think the Chiefs are going to the Super Bowl?

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We said the AFC was so deep and the NFC was basically San Francisco, Philadelphia, Dallas, and then everybody else. Now we can throw Detroit in there probably as well. And we said the AFC is this team and that team and this team and that team. The AFC ain't so strong, understand. But what we thought was Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Baltimore, Cleveland, who else was going to jump in at the jets before Aaron Rogers? Miami. Now Miami finally beat a team that was 500. The jets lost Aaron Rogers, Josh Allen in Buffalo. They fire their offensive coordinator. You lose Joe Burrow. Cleveland doesn't have a quarterback, so they're living on their defense. Baltimore, I love them. I definitely do. There's warts on all those teams. And you look at Kansas City and I forgot who I was listening to. Just saying. Oh, I'm not worried about Kansas City. I still think they're going to be there. Kansas City has 26 drops. That leads the NFL. Next is the jets with 20. They're behind the jets in drops. They're averaging just over five points in the second half the last three games. They haven't scored a point in the second half.

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That's not just something you flip the switch on and say, oh, we'll fix it. But I'm not going to sit here and say there isn't some worry because this isn't baseball, basketball, football, where it's a series in the playoffs. It's one game. So it takes one game to have two red zone turnovers, three or four drop passes, and you know what, you're packing up your lockers the next day and it's over. So, yeah, I'm definitely concerned. But I also don't think the AFC is as deep as we once thought. Mike, all these teams you mentioned, it.

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Feels like they have all this talent.

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But they always show us something that.

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Make you go, yeah, but if all.

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Of these teams play their best game, who do you have going out of the AFC? Yeah, the AFC, I think it would be Kansas City still. And one of the big reasons is their defense. Their defense is playing phenomenal. What they have four sacks in the first half, only one in the second half. But that defense has been playing some really good, you know, we said it from the beginning of the season. Who's the other go to outside of Travis Kelsey? I'm playing them and that's what the eagles did. I'm covering him, I'm doubling him. Where else you going? It's been rashee rice. Is it continuing to be him or Justin Watson? The other day, Justin Watson went into the Monday night game with 14 receptions for the year. He had eleven targets alone in that game. And Patrick said after the game, and this is what great quarterbacks do. Hell Peyton did it in Indy when you didn't know who the receivers are. Patrick Mahomes said, I'm throwing to the guy that's open. I'm throwing to what the defense gives me. And if Justin Watson is the guy that's on the field and in this particular route scheme, he is the option and he is open.

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I'm throwing him the know. Now if he continues to drop him a little too much, you may thinking about it know scantling. I mean, my god, the ball hit him right in the hands. But he's had drop issues his entire career, so can that stop? But I still trust Mahomes that he's going to get it to the right guy. The issue has been those guys have been dropping the ball.

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Mike, I want to do some college with you here because it's a big weekend coming up, college football. So what do you do if you're the committee here with Florida state?

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If they win the Florida game and they beat Louisville in the ACC championship game, they're in. There is no way that they can be undefeated. Even if they lost their quarterback and you put a one loss team over the top of them.

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You can't do it.

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Cannot do it. If they lose, say they beat Florida and lose to Louisville in the ACC championship game. I think the ACC will be out. I don't think that's going to be enough juice for Louisville because they had an awful, awful loss to Pittsburgh. Yes, I think what, 38 21. Put 38 on them. Every conference outside of the SEC is praying that Georgia beats Alabama because Alabama can throw the biggest monkey wrench into this thing by beating Georgia by a field goal. And then everybody going, oh, SEC is getting two teams in. That knocks another conference out. So they're all and there might be a ripple effect.

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Sorry to cut you off, Mike. The ripple effect might be, oh, now we have to put Texas in. They beat Alabama at Alabama.

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Yeah, they're another wild card in there, though. That Big Twelve championship game got a little less juice than say, like the possible Pac Twelve championship game where I think the winner could be in because loser of Ohio State, Michigan is probably going to be out. Some will say if it's a close game, could they both get in, but one won't be playing on championship weekend. So I think the loser is going to be out. I think the Pac Twelve, if they can get to that Pac Twelve title game of Washington and Oregon, they both got to get through games this week. I think the winner is going to be in and I think quite honestly right now, I think Oregon is playing better than Washington. That's going to be the interesting thing because, you know, if Bama beats Georgia, bama is going to get in.

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Yes.

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And there's probably a good chance Texas won't get in and Texas beat Bama, which is obviously going to get people up in arms.

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Right. Wow. But it should if that's the sport. The most valuable win in that sport is beating Alabama at Alabama.

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Yeah, it is. Except until Alabama, if they beat Georgia in the SEC championship game when Georgia's undefeated.

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Right. Do you think that will happen, though?

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I don't. I still think though, Millro's been passing a little bit better and Tommy Reese, our old coordinator, said we've been able to put back in some of the game plans with the passing because Millro's gotten better at throwing the ball. I just think you saw Brock Bowers come back last week. I think George is still too good overall.

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How do you feel about the Michigan Ohio State game this weekend? What a great weekend of football, Mike.

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It really feel I still lean toward Michigan, though. They've had a couple of the last couple of wins have know. Okay. Letting Maryland kind of get back in that one was interesting for Ohio State. I mean, Marvin Harrison Jr. Even throwing Stover, the tight end, I think he's our second leading receiver. I like him, too. He's made some good plays as well. But Marvin Harrison Jr. Is just he is everything that you could imagine. I think the two of the best non quarterbacks when we start talking about heisman are he and brock Bowers, and Bowers was hurt for a little bit. Marvin has been unbelievable. Ohio State always has that big playability because of Marvin Harrison Jr. I think Michigan is the better team. I would pick them to win and then go on and to win the Big Ten.

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Mike, we were talking about this earlier in the week and I'm curious what your response is. Is this possibly the last huge regular season non conference championship game that college football will have? Because once the playoffs expand and you have twelve teams getting in a two and a three doesn't really feel the same because of the fact that you could go down to eight or nine, doesn't matter. You're still in the playoff where this could be an elimination game for one of the teams and possibly will be.

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So you're still going to get that, you're just going to get that down the list a little bit.

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You're saying more games would have more meanings. Mike, when you get down to like 8910, 1112, but I think most people feel like none of those teams have a chance of winning if they make it to the play offs anyways.

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Do we think that this year? I mean, how far do we go? Oregon six, Texas seven, alabama is eight. Do we think Alabama wouldn't have a chance to win the championship? Louisville has been playing really well at nine, except for that bad loss to Pitt. Missouri gave Georgia everything they can handle. I'm looking at the AP now.

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Missouri is at ten. Penn State. Ole Miss Penn State.

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I'm not a believer at all. I mean, my God, they can't throw the ball vertical. It's been unbelievable.

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Big game.

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James.

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Louisville too, though.

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Like Louisville could I don't think Louisville.

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Could make a run.

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They almost lost to Miami this weekend.

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I know, but that's the point. Billy's. Points is a great one. The games you're talking about, more games, more meaningful games, we get it, we understand it. But Louisville gets to the playoffs, they're not going anywhere. They're not beating anyone.

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It's a great point. I would disagree. I think they could maybe win a game or so, but to win the title, I see your point. I don't think they could do that. So yeah, I mean, to some that's going to water it all down. Like I said, you'll still get basically playoff games within the regular season and elimination games, it'll just be lower down where you think, yeah, teams aren't going to win. And I get it. Your top six, your top seven are going to be there. It's just a matter of where they are. As we know, the top few conference champs are going to get buys. So I get it. But I'm a fan of this. I'm glad it's expanding because you never know who can make that run.

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Billy, why are you smirking there? I think he likes the twelve team playoff because Notre Dame gets it every year.

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Well I mean I like the twelve team playoff too. I feel like I'm going to miss the two versus three feeling like appointment television, like a nine versus eleven.

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Okay, whatever, perfect what you're saying right now because Michigan, Ohio State loser would still be in.

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I was actually smiling also Stuts because I was trying to fast forward in my head I was thinking who's going to be the first nine seed that wins the national championship and it's going to be Alabama on a two loss season. Right? So I'm thinking about that and then I was also fast forwarding more and just kind of applying some of the things that happened today towards a future playoff situation where obviously USC is not in it and there's conversation. Should Caleb Williams continue playing this season? Should he just sit out so he doesn't get injured? Who's going to be the first person that's going to be like a consensus number one pick on a twelve seated playoff team that a conversation has actually had? Should they sit off the college football playoffs so that they don't injure themselves and affect draft stock? Because that conversation will happen seven years from now. Maybe someone will come along that'll be a generational talent that's like your team's.

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Not going to win. Is it worth, you know what, we're an eleven c, we have no shot, I'm out.

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Yeah, no it's a fair statement and a lot of people will think about when it's going to happen. Yeah, I definitely get it. We'll have to wait and see because obviously with four teams no player outside of being injured has sat out a playoff game and I don't think anybody would when you're in the top four but top twelve.

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I agree.

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Different story. I mean guys have the different priorities. We can say you can have your opinion on whether it's good or bad, but at the end of the day the player is doing what the player feels they need to do for themselves. And I know a lot of people have opinions one way or the other on that. But yeah, I don't have any doubt that for somebody, if there is a lingering injury, that injury will become all of a sudden more severe and maybe have to sit that one know instead of just saying I'm not playing in this know because this is where we are. Know what players on teams not in the playoffs, what players are going to sit, what players are going to not play, because we know it's commonplace now.

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Not to spend too much time on this, Mike, but the reason oregon oregon state is so fascinating this weekend is the pressure. The weight of the world is on Oregon just to keep winning. Oh it is.

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Look at how about Washington last week with Oregon State playing in that cold rain and got pulled out the two point win. I mean this is normally where the pac twelve. Pac twelve themselves. Right. They knock each other out and they're done. And right now both teams are nail biting, holding on. Washington's got to be washington state. Oregon beat oregon state. And we get the rematch. This is the rematch we want, right. This is the rematch we wanted. We thought we still may get texas and Oklahoma. That's a little more convoluted. But it would be a two loss oklahoma team. We were hoping for the one loss against the one loss in that. But we're not going to get that. And certainly you're not going to get it. Michigan, Ohio state with them being on the same side in the east. So that won't happen. So this is what we're hoping for, that oregon and washington meet again because we all believe the winner is going to be in.

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Can you envision a scenario where let's say oregon wins that game. So now oregon and washington, they both have one loss. Okay. Alabama beach, georgia, it's a close game. Alabama and georgia both go in. Right. And then maybe by extension, you're thinking to yourself if you're the committee, I can't put alabama in and not put texas in. So they have to be in. And then you have the winner of michigan, ohio state. I'm asking you, can you envision a playoff that does not involve washington or Oregon?

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The scenario you're playing is alabama beats georgia. And if that happens, I think they're both going to be in. If michigan wins the big ten, that means they're undefeated. They're going to be in. And if florida state goes undefeated, they're going to be in. So that would be your four, right? Yeah, that would be it. So washington and oregon would most likely be left. Take say florida state loses and they're out of it. I think washington, oregon winner is going to be in. If bama beats georgia, they would be in with georgia. Michigan would be in and texas would be out.

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Wow.

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After beating Alabama. But alabama would be I know, but alabama, according to the committee, alabama will have just beaten the number one team in the country by their vote. By those 13 people's voting, alabama will have beaten them and that will supersede the head to head, in my opinion. In my opinion.

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I feel like the committee should drop georgia to like, four something to try to prevent any of these headaches. You know what I mean? If they beat the number one, then it's like, wow, this is going to.

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If they're four, then we don't have to worry about this.

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That's a great billy.

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That's a great thought. Did you just rinse your hands clean of it?

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He just punches pilot in this hands of it.

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Beating number four is very different than beating number one.

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You only beat number four. So alabama will put you in. But now, georgia, you're out because you were four.

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Liked a billy idea. I don't know what's going on today.

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You know what, Billy? You may be smarter than all 13 people in that room.

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I'm not.

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No, you're not.

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But check them out every morning. Go, Joe, and Golick on the Giraffe. Kings network. And wherever you get your podcast. No game this week. You just had your second grandchildren, second grandchild.

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My wife had surgery with her eye, so I got to be home with her as well. And Sydney's obviously just had a you know, we have a few things going on here where I need to be around, but next game I believe I'll be doing is going to be Philadelphia at Dallas in a couple of weeks, so I'm looking forward to that rematch very much. It's getting to that time now in the NFL, certainly. We're there in college, so it's getting fun. And I get to, on Thanksgiving eat a bunch of food and unbuckle my pants and sit on the couch badaboy.

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Enjoy it. Check them out. Gojo and Golick every day. DraftKings Network, eight to ten, wherever you get your podcast as well. Happy Thanksgiving, Mike, to you and your entire family. We love you. Thank you.

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To you guys as well.

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Thanks, man. How are you, man?

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Doing all right, man.

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Doing all right.

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Just getting ready for another week of madness.

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Is that what it is? It's madness, isn't it?

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The NFL, I mean, the NFL life, you know, it's all of this all of this thing that we experience. It's ups, downs, in, and outs all at the same time.

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At least you're not planning a wedding through all of that.

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Yes. Shout out to my fiance.

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That would be crazy.

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Shout out to my fiance.

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Yeah. Do you find yourself getting overwhelmed at times? No.

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I think I almost seek to try to find where I can get overwhelmed at, but no, I have a lot going on, but it still feels like I'm just staying in my lane and continuing to build. It's kind of what I've always done. So, no, I still got room for more. I'm still looking for more, too.

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Are you trying to tell me are you seeking out overwhelmed? Is that what you're saying?

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In my life, I've really been taking this thing where it's like, okay, I've continued to progress in certain things, and really it's been in, I think, my capacity to understand, learn, and apply, and it's like, okay, how much can you possibly do? I don't know. It's subjective for every individual, and I think I'm on some type, of course, to try to find that. Where is the breaking point? Is there a breaking point? And it's not that you go all out and go outside your capabilities, but can you continue to expand your capabilities and live on that edge of what you're capable of?

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I think for you, and I mean, I don't really know, but I feel like for you, if you sit back and you try to see absolutely everything that you're taking on at once, that's when it becomes overwhelming, where if you're just in it and you're just doing one thing at a time, you stick to the schedule. You know, you're capable of doing each individual task, and you just got to do them one task at a time, and then you can keep doing things. It's when you take a step back, you're like, holy crap, I have 60,000 things going on that then it becomes overwhelming and you feel that pressure.

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That's what I'm talking about, Bill. That's well said, man. Well said. I don't think I could have said it any better because that's exactly what it is. And I have a team behind me that helps me coordinate all of this stuff, and really I play my part where I need to, but then they pick up the rest of it. And so exactly what you're saying, like, today is a full day because we're filming this on the off day, but it'll be Compartmentalized foundation, Experience speaking Course, X Games and the list goes on, right? Where it's all like, okay, my brain is in a certain state of mind during that. Just like this morning, I went and worked out and I was just blasting heavy metal in my ears, and it's just workout mode. So just living in the moment and try to maximize that time while you're doing it.

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Mikey, what is going on, man? Is it a full moon or something? Golick thinks that Billy had a good idea. Austin just said Billy was spot on with his analysis. I mean, next thing you know, him and Sims are going to be best friends. Yeah. Don't push it. Yeah. Austin, take us through the last couple of days here because I know you, and I know how hard you are on yourself, and so it was an exciting game, but you guys always play exciting games. Every game seems like a one score game. Take us through. You had the fumble in that game, so just take us through what you've been going through the last couple of.

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Days here as an individual and what I've built my reputation up to be and my standard for myself and this team that can never be compromised, and I cannot be the one that contributes negative plays. I have to be the other side.

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Right?

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I have to be a contributor. I can't be something that's making us or holding us back. And so, yeah, being fumbling in the red zone and slipping on the field, I know the field's slippery. I got to make sure that I get my feet right and making sure that my preparation for the week, I'm not doing too much as far as physically. So my legs are ready to go and not feeling heavy and things like that. And so there's just things that okay. Sometimes you get punched in the face and it's like, okay, that's a reset. Okay, wake up, get back to who you were and make sure you hold your standard. And so in the game, yeah, there was just too many mistakes as a collective, but I definitely played a part in that, and it can't happen. It can't happen. We have talent, we have this, we have that. But it doesn't matter if we as individuals, myself included, looking in the mirror first, if I don't play up to that standard on Sunday, none of it matters. And so that's kind of been my biggest emphasis after reflecting over these last few days, is like, okay, you're doing the work during the week.

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You're putting it all in, you're making sure, but it's like, okay, what are the little things that are going to separate and get you back? And I think it really is right between the ears. And so I've kind of gone back to this metal phase that I was in in the past, where it was like, let me just make sure that I'm tapped into I have a dragon on the side of my core where it's like, let me tap into that inner beast and making sure that this is everything that I can possibly put into this again, when it is football time.

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So you are a leader. You're a team captain on your team. You take accountability. You say, you know what?

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I slipped.

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I fumbled the ball. But unfortunately, the last game, there were lots of missed opportunities, right? There were some drop passes. There were some that were lost in the sun, whatever, right.

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By the way, Billy, they still had the lead and a chance to win that game.

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Well, so, yeah, so then after the game, the media kind of goes after your coach, Staley, and says, the defense was to blame for this. You had a chance, you blew the lead. Right? And then he has been feeling the pressure from the media, from the outside, as I'm sure you're aware, and people are saying is the right fit, whatever. And gets a little defensive, and he's like, no, it's not the defense because he's a defensive minded coach, and then goes and kind of almost points the finger on the offense and on miscues in the red zone. Is that something that when you have conversations with him, you realize, hey, this may be just he's caught up in the moment and you guys have a conversation about it, or you just kind of keep moving? It's like, I can't get into any of that stuff?

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No, I think his job as the head coach is to hold us all accountable. And so if him letting us know that we messed up, yeah, I expect that from him. We need that from him. Like, hey, you guys can't be doing this. This is what losses the game. We need more from you in this area. And he does that for all positions, right? He'll call you out.

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He'll call you out.

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In the meeting. I love that, too, because it's like, okay, I need that accountability where the whole team is like, yep, austin, you can't can't fumble in the four yard line, man. You can't have this. We're going to lose games. And so him coming at the offense, it's totally appropriate. We did not play at the level that we should have been playing at and our defense held into enough. We got to score more than 20 points. We're capable of that. I want more of that. Put it back on us. In my mindset, it's like we got to score more than whatever they score anyway, right. So it doesn't matter what the defense does in my mind.

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So for you guys, it's not a big deal because this is how he interacts with you anyways. It just happened publicly. So we thought, oh, it looks like he's blaming certain players for certain things when in reality you have those conversations anyways, and he does that to you guys.

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I have to be honest, I was pissed off at him on behalf of my friend Austin Eckler. I was I was pissed at him. I'm just being honest.

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There's no reason to be pissed for the head coach holding this team know.

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But he has to be.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. And we all have to look in the mirror and he said this, too.

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Right.

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It comes down to all of us making sure that we're putting ourselves in a place to, as a coach, put your guys in the place to make the plays. But then as players, we actually have to go out there and execute and make those plays. And if we don't, all of us have to be accountable to what we're putting on the field on Sunday. And I think he's done a great job of doing that, and I buy into that. Because you need that. You need that in society. You need that, especially in a team sport. You got to have accountability. It's got to start from the top.

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Rex Ryan said he should go back to being a Division Three coach. Did you hear that? And what are your thoughts on a such a shot?

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They're trying to get clicks, man. This man's trying to get clicks. So it is what it is. I don't want to say much more on that one because it's just a bunch of nonsense.

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Do you feel like your coach is accountable when it comes to this? Okay, so he is. So he'll take the blame. There were too many men on the field, Austin.

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That's on it's. I think he's almost taking too much of the blame.

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Okay.

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Where it's coach, like you said, it's your fault. It's your no, like, it's it's my fault. It's Herbert's fault. It's this person's you know, quentin Johnson. It's it's me fumbling the like, it's these individual plays. It's like Coach City's not on there making the plays. We have to make the know like. It's us as players. And I wasn't using those players specifically of what happened, but I'm just saying us as players have to take accountability too. He has to do that. But it's not all know, but to the media we're kind of shielded because he is our head coach. So when we don't win the game, they're going to go to Brandon Staley, what happened? And he's trying to shield us from getting all the media and trying to tear us apart and all of this thing and try to make us point fingers, which we can't do that. We have to stay together. And so my opinion, I'm like he takes too much accountability for the losses where it's like, bro, we have to make the plays. We are the players on the field. Coaching can only take you so far and then players got to make up, make a guy miss, make a spectacular catch, right.

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Make an interception, force a fumble. Those things you can't really coach, you can talk about it, but you got to go out there and do that. And that's not even in the scheme. That's in just effort and that's just in fundamentals of the game.

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What if you get mean? Just what if that happens? You can't count on want you want me to take out Rex Ryan for you? I'll be happy to do it. I mean, it was a cheap shot by Rex, but what if you get Belichick?

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You don't want Bill Belichick. Don't entertain that. You want to have a good time.

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Yeah. 2003 Belichick, maybe not 2023 Belichick. You don't want that.

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I can't confirm or deny.

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Right.

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All I care about right. Honestly, I really don't care who my head coach is.

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Right.

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It comes down to am I executing and do we have a chance to win? Do we have a chance to freaking win? The know? And we've had that, but we've come up short. Why? Well, because we got to play better.

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Billy. I was so nervous asking that question that I morphed into, hey, you want me to take out Rex Ryan for you? Yeah. I don't understand.

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So for you, Austin, is for you, your position coach more important than your head?

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OOH. I would say on an individual level, yes. Because we have more day to day and that helps me with my mental. Right. Getting ready to play the game and talking about the fundamentals, talking about the game plan. As far as an importance, there's different ways to evaluate them. As far as an importance to me individually with my mental and like the preparation, yes. But as far as the whole organization and the culture of the team, I would say the head coach is more important there.

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What does Thanksgiving look like for you?

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Honestly, I forgot it was even Thanksgiving coming up, to be honest. Yeah. My family is spread out all over the place, so I'll be probably locked in. I think we have that evening off, so maybe we get, like, a friends giving going with the team. Some of the guys get together. I know last year I got together with some of the guys, and we had a little friends giving, so probably do something like that.

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Again, I think the thing with pointing out, not to harp on this too much, but like Austin, you're very critical of yourself, and I'm certain Keenan Allen is very self aware and critical of himself. And just as players, if I know my guys, my leaders, my best players are self aware and critical of themselves. I don't want them saying, this is just me. Right. I don't want them saying what they say to me privately, to the media. That's all that's it like, he knows you guys are professional. He knows you guys feel terrible about what happened in, you know are you.

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Asking me a question or you're making a statement?

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Well, I'm making a statement. I don't like it. I got to be honest. I was way more upset with Staley than you were, which is really OD, man.

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For me, man. US as individuals, man, it starts with us. I have to take accountability. I have to play at the level that I'm capable of playing. If I don't do that, how can I ever criticize anyone else or what they're saying? It doesn't matter because I have to make sure that I'm checking my boxes.

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All right, but what if you, in your post game press conference, said, hey, the coach has to put the right amount of people on the field? That's on him. How would he feel about that?

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He's got to make sure we're all lined up where we got to make sure we're in the right positions. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm not here to say he's right or wrong, but I am here to say that, yeah, we all have to take accountability. And whether you're mad, really, it doesn't matter if you're mad at him or not. We got to move forward, right? We got to come back. We got to regroup, and we got to move forward. We still got almost half the season left, and so I don't want to get caught up in feelings. I think this is a very emotional game, especially from the fans standpoint, because they only see what's on the outside when it comes from the media. They don't see what's in the locker room and how connected we are and the accountability and how we're going through week to week and what the mindset is and what we're saying to each other. And so 90% of the league is not covered, and what is covered is media on Sundays is like, the big thing. Don't get too caught up in the emotional part.

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I'm way more upset about it than you.

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I know. I know.

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This is a problem. Those two that I think we should be working on, if Austin doesn't care. I don't think you should.

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It's not that I don't care. It's not that I don't care. It's that I think it comes down to me internally looking in inward first before I can go and actually articulate something about someone else, like, am I doing my job well? It's like I came up short because if we win that game, the whole media presence is so much different around that, right. And so it's like there's such a fine line. So that's why you can't be like all one way or all the other. It's like for us, especially in the game, we got to stay level. Stay level. Because I don't fumble. We scope up two scores, we win the game, no one even talks about anything besides, hey, you guys are back on track. There's a streak starting up. How do you feel now going forward? So man yeah, it's a fine line. It was also a blessing to the curse to have the media it's a.

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Game of austin indeed it is, my friend.

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Indeed it is.

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I'll tell you who would never throw you under the bus, though, in a postgame press conference belichick he would do.

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That because he doesn't say anything.

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Yeah, he just mumbles. But it's so jumbled up the still.

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I will say this, though. Throwing someone under the bus and holding someone accountable is very different.

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Fair.

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Very different. So I will say that and I'll just leave it at that.

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All right? Totally fair. It's so jumbled up, though, the AFC, that you could still envision a scenario like, yeah, let's go. We got half the season left. Let's go get to the playoffs. Right?

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I mean, that's the only thing I can think about, right, is that we got a chance. Until we don't have a chance, we have a chance, right?

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What was the experience like at lambeau Field for you? Well, besides the frozen tundra, that's what it's called.

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Look, I even wear the studs like I'm ready for this. Maybe I should have got the inch longer ones, but man yeah, unfortunate, but yeah, the atmosphere is great. Those trains are well bought into how all of this stuff works, whereas their offenses on the field, they're all standing up and it's like right. You can hear the people just having a good conversation behind you. And then when we're on the field offense, everyone's going crazy, and I'm like, oh, these guys get it. They actually understand.

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So I wanted to ask all three of you, actually, a very polarizing statement by my daughter was made last night. Whole family got in a fight. She said she doesn't like turkey. She does not want turkey for Thanksgiving. She wants steak. She wants a sliced steak. I don't know. Not even ham. She wants a steak. Austin how do we feel about her take?

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Can I ask a question for you guys? Actually kind of kind of complain to that.

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Of course.

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How many times out of the year do you eat turkey?

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Once.

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So what are we talking about? Who really likes turkey then?

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You eat it once out of the year. There's so many other daughter is an innovator. Yeah. Is she really? No. Listen, it's something I've thought I was not brave enough to say it. She said it. My wife likes it.

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If we only eat it once a year, then we're doing it for the tradition, not because it's the best meal. Like, oh, my God, I can't wait till Thanksgiving so I can finally eat turkey.

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All right, man. So you have the Ravens coming up. Good luck to you. I'm sorry that I'm more upset at your coach than you are. My apologies to both you and him. Okay? All good.

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It's all good. Look, the emotions, we can't let it get into the locker room. It's for the fans. It's for the excitement of the game. That's what people get invested because now you got these headlines of the emotional things, the controversial things. But for us, man, we're thick skinned. And guess what? You can tell me a lot worse. You can tell me I suck. You can tell me XYZ. I've heard it all. But guess what? I'm going to keep moving forward. I'm going to get my mind right, and it's got to be better next time. Absolutely. And so, like I said, you're going to see me, I'm probably going to be headphones in, and I'm laser focused, blasting some heavy metal in the ears.

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All right, listen, it's a time to be thankful, Austin, okay?

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Yeah.

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You're getting married. You have your health. You have your good looks. You might have belichick. I mean, it's a time to be thankful. Okay? This guy. We're thankful for you, though, man. We have this guy. Appreciate you guys. Yeah, man.

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You got to chill with that, man. Come on.

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I'll never say it again. I'll never say it again. We are thankful for you, my friend. We really are. We appreciate you every single week. You're a good man. And good luck against Baltimore this Sunday, man.

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Thanks, boys. Appreciate you guys.

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Gord, how are you feeling?

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You know what? I'm on day ten.

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Wow. Really? Well, the last time we left you, you were sitting at a bar with Rob's best friend from college, I believe.

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No, it was Mojo's.

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Mojo's. I'm sorry. Okay. And you didn't have a drink is what you're saying. Correct?

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I watched everyone else have them, and it's very challenging. I do feel better the next morning. Good. I went to the Massachusetts State Gala to support our heroes on Saturday, and I faked more muscle chugs and adult beverages than I ever have in one night stand, and everyone thought I was blacked out at the club.

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Wow. Did you have to carry it through? Were you acting like you were hammered?

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Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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I was acting like I was falling over. I couldn't get onto the little spinny camera thing that they take your video? I was falling off of it. It was awesome. I had more fun doing that, I think, drinking.

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Okay, so ten days sober. I'm gord. Yeah. We're proud of you, budy.

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Thank you.

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Gordy's hiding from his family in Fort Myers so he doesn't have to go on the party bus tonight. He stayed in Boston just so he.

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Doesn'T have to go on the party.

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Bus with Share Bear tonight.

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I will say this before we get to Share Bear. Dan Bonado went one and one last week. And Gordy, your Uber driver, went three o and two. I don't think we're ever going to hear from Michael again, but Michael had a perfect week.

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Gordy, do you have Michael's number? You're supposed to get Michael on this week. What happened?

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I'm going to have to go back through the Uber list.

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He's undefeated. He's undefeated.

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We had three undefeated people last week. We had Michael, who was undefeated. We had K Funk, who was undefeated. We had Juju, who was undefeated, who I believe is already in the zoom, even though we can't see him in our studio.

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Juju, are you there? Can you hear us?

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I'm here than a motherfucker.

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All right, Juju, have you met all of the guys? This is Gordy share, bear, K, Funk and Carl.

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I'm the person who'll be tagging y'all online. Carl.

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I know. Give Dan my best man. Tell Dan I fell in love.

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There he is.

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Does anyone have an answer for me as to why there's a party bus tonight? Anyone? Anybody?

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I think Share Bears annual Thanksgiving party bus, right?

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Okay. All right.

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Party.

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Yeah.

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And I got a text message earlier. He doesn't know I'm still in Boston, and if he's not on, I am flying to four tonight, but he doesn't know that.

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All right, when you get back? I'm checking JetBlue flights right now. Let me see what times they land. I'll find it.

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Chair Bear, pick him up from the airport in the party bus.

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Yeah, you should do that. Guys, he doesn't want to be found. Like, what don't you understand? You got that's what everybody says. It's like me, I say I don't want temptation. But, hey, call me if you got anything good.

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He doesn't want to plan it, but.

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He still wants to know what's going on, and he could make a quick audible. Got it. All right, but ten days sober? I mean, come on, we're going for New Year's, right, Gord? Is that the deal?

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Yeah, I have to. I mean, four weeks in Vegas was just so intense that I just have to reset myself.

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Carl, when's the last time you've been hammered? More than 40 years ago. The night before my first wedding, I got hammered. Okay? Wow. All right. K Funk, last time you've been hammered?

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Last night.

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Okay. Share Bear, last time you've been hammered? Like, hammered. Carl. Carl. I love when people say before their first wedding. So safe to say the alcohol didn't go too good with you. Correct. You're absolutely right. Absolutely right. Juju, last time you were hammered right.

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Now, 2003, I think. I tried Erking jerk for the first time and I had the ball in my hand in the street, laid out.

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Gore, baby. Gord, when we come to the party in Vegas, the Gronk Beach party, juju needs to be on the list, okay?

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Absolutely.

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He goes wherever me and Billy go Super Bowl week. Okay.

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I mean, that's perfect because you'll probably be able to bring a guest or two.

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So there you go, juju's, our plus one. All right.

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I got blocked out last Super Bowl. I was trying to taste Mojo. He had like a know who.

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Yeah, don't rely on Mojo for anything, dude.

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He was probably so drunk he didn't know who he was either. All right, let's get to the games. Here we have gordy, do me a favor, please, I'm begging you, okay? Just go through the phone for next week, okay. Go through the phone and find that Uber driver. Okay.

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Let me take a note.

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Okay, hold on a second. Juju is here because Juju was going to down clean up the fact that you kind of made a mess of this segment. Stugats. So, Juju, do you want to be the master of ceremonies today or do you want Stugats to handle and you're just going to be picking?

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Stugats can handle it because I'm intimidated by all these beautiful brothers on the screen right now. I wouldn't know where to start.

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All right, what he's saying is he doesn't know your names. I mean, he just met him. All right, let's go to the first game. Juju, I'm going to start with you. Commanders at cowboys. Cowboys, an eleven point favorite at home. Juju, who are you taking?

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Not only am I taking the cowboys, I'm taking CD. Lamb for over 6.5 catches. No matter what happens, he going to have a turkey leg on the end of his hand at the end of the game.

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My words, a bonus pick. I love that. Gord, who are you taking here? Cowboys minus eleven at home against the Commanders.

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That's a big spread for a Division game. I wanted to go Washington, but then I remembered Mojo is from there, so I have to go with my brothers all live in Dallas and Chris played for the Cowboys and it's Thanksgiving. They're going to cover.

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Agreed. Okay. Funko, you taking here.

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I got my son, Dojo is here. He's going to pick also with me. Dojo, I'm going to take. Give me the Commanders. I saw twelve and a half. I don't know why you're getting eleven, but just give me the Commanders and the points.

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We're getting it from DraftKings our partner. That's where we're getting it from. I'm going to have to go with the Commanders as well. Wait, Commanders. So we have two commanders picks, right? K fucking dojo.

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Yes.

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All right, let's go to share. Bear. Share Bear, who are you taking here? Cowboys minus eleven. Taking on the Commanders. I mean Gordy's philosophy about the Dallas Cowboys and Thanksgiving America's Team. I just remember big old Leon Let, he didn't really do too well for America's Team on. So with that being said, I think I'm going to still go with the Cowboys. Okay. Great setup. All right, Carl, who are you taking? Know, man, I hate giving up so many points at home, but I'm going to be taking the Cowboys and hold my breath. Hold my nose, my nose. All right. 49 ers. Hold your hip. Hold your alcohol. I mean, Jesus Christ. 49 ers at Seahawks. Seahawks plus seven at home. 49 ers. Getting hot again. They're getting healthy again. I'll start with you, Kay Funk. Could you take it here?

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I think Gino is going to play, so I'll take Seattle on this one with the touchdown.

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All right, Dojo, I don't want to sound like I'm copying him because I'm not, but I'm also going to say the Seahawks 85% clip the last few weeks. Very nice of you. Your ball hog. All right, let's go to Carl Douglas here. Carl, who are you taking 49 ers at? Seahawks. Seahawks plus seven. I'm going to take the niners. They're playing well now. I still think that the Seahawks kind of hurt at quarterbacks. I'll go the niners. Give up the points. All right, Carl taking the niners. Let's go to share. Bear. Share Bear, who are you taking here?

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Space needles.

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Algarez and space needles. I mean, tough a lot of things. I'm going to space needles still. Okay. All right. I love you, Share Bear. Gord, who are you taking, man? Who are you taking here?

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Home division dog. I have to go with Seattle. That's too big of a spread for a home division dog.

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Okay, Juju, who are you taking 49 ers at seahawks. Seahawks plus seven.

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I don't give a damn. A gino plan. Marshawn Lance plan. The Legion is boom. I'm taking the 49 ers plus minus seven. The long way. Got to know the long way.

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Brandon Browner is playing, though.

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Brandon's coming. Look.

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Brandon Browner and Gino Smith. Allegedly. I've heard reports. They have written back this year. They wrote right back to the haters. I don't believe in them.

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All right, let's go. Dolphins and jets here for the third game. The jets are dreadful. They're starting Timmy Boyle. They are. Plus eleven. Taking on the dolphins. Gord, I'm going to start with you here. Who are you taking? Jets. Dolphins. Jets plus eleven at home.

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Home division dog again. I just think eleven is too many. But jets can't score.

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I don't know.

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This is a tough one, right?

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And the Dolphins can literally score zero points. I know. Yeah.

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Hey, I believe in Boyle. I'm going with the jets.

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How do you believe in Boyle? He's behind Zach. Why do you believe in him? He believes in Boyle, man.

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Come on.

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The jets, d, man. Jets D is pretty good now.

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Yeah, but Tim Boyle is not. I know.

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Okay, jets defense.

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All right, I got it. Juju. Jets Dolphins. Dolphins are an eleven point favorite on the road. Who are you taking?

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Tim Boyle. Mark Sanchez, whoever you put in there. Dolphins over. I'm taking the Dolphins and I'm taking Garrett Wilson.

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Over.

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What?

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He got 4.5 catches.

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All right.

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Over.

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4.5 catches with the Garrett Wilson, but they will get drilled to sleep. See you Sunday.

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Okay. I love the bonus picks, Juju. Thank you. All right, let's go to share. Bear. Share Bear, who are you taking here? Jets. Dolphins. It's tough. If it was a Miami home game, I'd probably take the Dolphins because not many away teams can get out alive by not going to tootsies and losing some sleep. But New York staying at home is actually probably better for the jets. So I'm going to take the jets. All right. Taking the jets. Let's go to Carl now. Carl, who are you taking in this game? Dolphins. Jets. Jets plus eleven. At home, I've been flipping back and forth and my brothers listening to me haven't changed it at all. I agree. Indivision dog. I'll go with I can't do it. The Dolphins. You're smart, right? You don't believe in Timmy Boyle. You're smart. It's because you're smart. That's why.

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By the way, before we get too much further, so Carl had a four and one week, and he had a week that should have been five, and I kind of screwed him on that and I gave him a little bit of extra time. And then Carl changed two of his picks and ended up three and two. So Carl had a potential nine and one stretch that he benefited from us changing a time on him.

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Okay. K Funk. K Funk. Hear that? K to funk. This is one of the best attorneys we have in America right there. Let's go to Kfunk. Kfunk.

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Are you taking Go to Dojo?

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I'm sorry? Dojo very rude.

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100%. 100%. Miami, you're saying? And you know me, I'm a Dolphins fan. I hate this game. Jets defense is pretty good. I just can't do it, so I'm taking Miami.

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Okay, so you still have the same picks.

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Wait, so is Gord the only one who believes in Tim Boyle? Is that's right?

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Yeah.

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All right, Bills at Eagles. A big game this weekend. Bills at Philadelphia. Philadelphia coming off their win against the Chiefs. The Bills had a big win. Josh Allen looks good again, which is funny because he was never bad. Let's start with Share Bear here. Share, bear. Who you taking? Eagles minus three and a half. Take it on the bills. Yeah, I think the Eagles got away with one the other night and once again hang out with the Gronkowski. Even they don't hang out as a family. Still, they are from Buffalo, so let's stick with the Bills. Let's stick with the bills. Gord, where are you, by the way? Like it's in an office. I think he's in Fort Myers. He's lying to.

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Chris's closet. Looks all right.

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He's like one of those storage pots.

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Exactly right. All right, Share Bear, what was the pick? I missed it. I'm sorry. He picked the bills. All right. Take the bills. I went with the family. I went with the bills. All right, let's go to K. Funky here. Bills at Eagles. Eagles minus three and a half at home. Who. You take it, Eagles. Bills are frauds. Bills frauds.

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Okay, that was dojo.

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Bills are dojo.

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I actually love the Bills this week, so give me the Bills. A little exclamation point on that one, please.

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Okay, we'll put an exclamation point.

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All right, Juju, who you taking here?

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Bills at Eagles. This is the juju bowl. This is my heart lies in Philly and Buffalo. My pick is safety. No injuries. Everybody has fun and take good baths after the game and just have a great Thanksgiving weekend. I have no pick for this game. My heart is in both places.

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I'll put no pick. I'll put no.

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Man, they're going to hate me. I choose the Buffalo Bill.

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I like it. Okay, Carl, what's the matter? What are you doing with your hand? You got to pick Juju.

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I know, you're right.

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I like the Swag, man, but you got to pick, man. You got to pick. Come on, now.

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You're right.

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I let us down.

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I let us out.

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Why are you badgering the way.

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Carl indict your ass? In a second, bro.

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I like the swag I hadn't seen before. I follow. Everyone back off of Juju. All right, give me the Eagles. Okay. You're taking the Eagles. All right, everyone pick that game.

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No, we still need gordy.

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All right, Gord. Sorry about that, Gord. You're throwing me off? The whole office thing, being sober, all of it. Rob's here.

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Happy Thanksgiving, Rob.

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All right, so pick as Rob, go ahead.

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Since the Bills skipped me the pick before New England. But I'm from Buffalo. This is a tough decision because I could have been a Bill.

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You could have been oh, I didn't know that.

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Yeah, the Bills passed on me twice.

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Yeah, lucky you. I know.

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Yeah, it was real.

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Kind of worked out.

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I got to go with our hometown. B-U-F-F-A-L-O. What's that spell?

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Buffalo. Buffalo. Hey, Gordy, I'm looking right now. You're on the 430 flight, Gordy. You get an 815. Is that the right flight?

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Which one I'm on? You got to guess.

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It's a 430. I'm looking. Okay? I know where you're at.

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Okay, very good.

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Gord, you've done the Buffalo thing in a club before, right? You've had to correct.

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Camp out at the terminal share bear. Just go camp out at the terminal for the next 6 hours.

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Ridiculous. Just let it go, Share Bear. You'll be fine. It's not fun.

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Share Bear, is that a wristband you got on?

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You just said you stopped playing.

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Share Bear is number eight in the world. Well, he was.

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I'm sliding. He's sliding down a little bit. Shoots and ladders. I got all the way to top and I get that big ladder down. All right. The party bus should help. All right, final game here. Ravens. Ravens and Chargers. Chargers minus three and a half. Let's go to share. Bear. Share, bear who you take? It Know. It's a tough game, man. It really is. Chargers. I used to love the Chargers when you can just go out and end up in Tijuana. I don't like this much when you're going to I'm going to go with the Know. You go out in Baltimore and end up in Philadelphia. So I'll go with the ravens. Okay. All right. I mean, Lamar Jackson getting three and a half points. Let's go to K Funk. K Funk or Dojo, who are you guys taking here? I'm taking the ravens. You're taking the ravens? Okay. K funk are you taking?

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The Ravens. Are favored by three and a half. Right.

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Yeah. I'm sorry. Ravens are minus three and a half. My apologies. Apologies. Yeah.

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I love this game. This game and the Bills. Give me the chargers. Give me the bolts.

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Okay.

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I love it.

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Share Bear, do you want to keep your pick? I gave you false information. Are you good? Yeah.

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I like it's like that movie 21.

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When Kevin Spacey gives him a second chance. I'm not going to change my pick. I'm going to stay with my pick. Okay. Stay strong. I appreciate it. Let's go to Carl. Carl, who you taking here? Hey, man, I'm from La. I'm not picking the charges no more this year. Give me the ravens.

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All right.

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No more this year. Okay. No more this year. You're done. Okay. I'm done with them. All right. Let's go to juju. Juju, who you taking here? Ravens at Chargers. Ravens minus three and a half.

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Even though the Chargers have not fired the doofus of the week with that big old hat on his head, I still think the Chargers will find a way to get it done.

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Okay.

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Brandon Staley, get him out of here. But the charges. Will win this game handedly. You hear it here first handedly.

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I said it first. We heard it there second.

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Right. Well handedly going away like 21 points. Yeah. Like Juju would be taking the Chargers if they were -19 yeah.

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We would too I like it.

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All right. Gord. Who are you taking here. Ravens at Chargers. Ravens three and a half point favorite.

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That's a tough flight from Baltimore.

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I don't know.

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But I got to go with Carl. I mean, he's a Chargers fan. If he ain't feeling it, then I'm not feeling it. So I'm going with Baltimore.

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Yeah, okay. I like it. All right, boys. Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. We appreciate it. Gord, you have an assignment next week. Well, you have an assignment this week. Stay away from Share Bear and the fine Michael. Fine Michael? You wrote it down. I'm so proud of you, Gord. You're sober it. Happy Thanksgiving, Fellas. We love you. Come back. Good meeting you, man. Come back next time. Thanks, guys.

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God bless football.

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God bless.

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God bless football.

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God bless football.