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Do you know how great a sports argument has to be in order for it to engulf in the news cycle? The 49ers and wanted to street fight yesterday at the top of the sport. In the other conference where the Miami Dolphins are the number one seed and an exciting thing for the first time this century that has a chance, a legitimate chance in the, You lucky we asked, division of the AFC. In the division that's been dominated by Belichick, who now looks totally incompetent, can stop Herbert, can strangle Herbert in bad weather to six nothing, but cannot score a point because he doesn't have a quarterback anymore because braided left him in the gray. In the gray cold of December, he does not have a quarterback.

They've scored 47 points in the last five games. 47 points. That's the weekend.

Coming out of you right now. It is a historic type of... The numbers are like since the 1880s, you haven't seen a team be this good at stopping somebody and never winning a game because they have no offense. Belichick is Iowa. It's like the cruelest joke.

It's 26 points that they've allowed in the last three games, and they've lost all of them. 10-7, 10-6, 6-0.

It's never happened. The names of the players were like, Heinie McGee and stuff the last time that stuff was happening. And it's Belichick. You can't make that stuff up because he dominated in this division. The way that they had to do it is get the home games because you're in a shitty division. You're in the we-lucky-you-ass, we-lucky-we-ass division. I can't even get it right, but it's so great. That used to be every other team in the division and the Patriots owned the AFCEs. Now the entire conference is there for the Dolphins taking and two home games and a buy if they could stay healthy.

I checked and Heidi McGee never played for the Patriots.

I've got to look up one of the names there because it's from that era. But before I do, before I just talk about.

Football in general. Okay, Ruth is two for seven against him.

Tony, you took the napkins out of your nose. Yeah, my nose, we talked. Because there was... Yeah, you got some football out there. But my weekend was ruined, an otherwise peaceful weekend.

It was Tushy McGee.

Thank you. That sounds about right. Because the other complaint that Brown Angel brought me was that we didn't have enough new designs on our new website. That's a real code, by the way. Samsonsucks20. Show how much SamsonSucks. Get a 20% discount off everything in the store. But the only thing I ever wanted to do artistically with that merch store is make shirts in 90 minutes, make shirts off of a live show, make shirts quickly that are funny. Angel, Brown Angel is telling me that-.

That's a weird way to call that. I'm not a fan of Brown Angel. It's just weird.

He's my Brown Angel. He's the Brown Angel that protects my brother. He's the Brown Angel. That's what my brother called him because he protected my brother's spirit.

Through art. I guess it's okay now.

That's right. Can I ask a question here briefly? The promo code was ready to go after local, but it wasn't a bit or it was a...

Look, Jess, I'm with you. It appeared that none of that was a bit. However, it did result in a promo code. But the.

Shirts are still $32. But the shirts are still $22.

Okay, got it. Samson sucks 20.

That's a 20 %. It's not $37, but it's $32. Is that still too expensive? Do I need to make them cheaper than that? Are they still too expensive at $32?

I think maybe we do, Samson really sucks, and it's like 25 % off.

Right. For the holidays, that sounds like a good idea. That sounds like something we should be doing. Maybe we'll do that tomorrow.

But, Mike- But I'm on the website now, levitartaf. Com, and there's a lot of designs there now. I think the only thing that I found weird about it, pricing, I guess. I know that the feedback to the pricing wasn't great. I guess it could be explained by quality and no one's gotten their shirts yet. Let's wait and see.

They are made out of silk. Yes.

Let's see what the quality feedback is actually, as opposed to what they look like as a graphic. But my main takeaway was a show logo on a coffee mug. There was just six items there and they were all pretty basic. I know Angels worked really hard in the past on his designs. But now when you go to levitartaf. Com, you see plenty of designs.

You guys will help me navigate whatever the corporate shit is here that Samson will steal the soul out of everything we're doing because they've got to make the money. That's in order.

We have to. Are you asking or telling us?

I was actually, up until this morning, pretty glad to be out of the merch.

Store business. I was too.

Suck right back.

To you. I was, too. You know how many checks I had to write to Stugat.

Thank you.

I was so glad to be out of the merch business. I didn't get money from the goddamn merch business.

Looks like the Pablo Torre finds out merch store.

Well, that's another thing. They're all in New York. No, thank you, Tony. No, those guys are in Kahoots. Yeah, Pablo's in Samson's here every day. They're stealing everything from us.

That's 75.

Shirts here. No, Pablo's team was organized and sent 70 things. Yes, we'll sell out. Yes, we'll sell out. The next one has to be Pablo sucks 20. How about we just give 40 and.

20% discount? How much are those going for?

We'll.

Find out.

So not a bit. Okay, that was all I wanted, that was all I.

Needed to know. Yeah, it's not a bit, but the merch store has been... It has a checkered history, but we're trying to get it right. Dan's intention in putting David Samson in charge of this, I think, was just to get this thing off the ground because we all agreed that a previous merch experience just wasn't up to snuff. Now, in actually getting this thing launched, Dan wants to have his cake and eat it, too, because he put David Samson in charge because he got it done. But he didn't get it done with the personal touches that they would.

Have preferred. No, not just that. My brother died over those two years. That was the protection of his art. Angel does a good job of making art quickly. Good art that you'd want on a T-shirt in memory of my brother. That was my brother's thing. It was never my thing. It's his best friend that has the biggest T-shirt manufacturer in the United States. It's his best friend, not mine. All of that stuff was made so that there could be a business around what it is that we're doing here, and there is now art. There's actual art on the merch store.

Yes. Now that we've answered that, is footgirls a bit? I'm still not sure about that one either. It's a hit. That one.

Directly.

Involves me. It's a hit.

I've seen the numbers. You can do with it what you want. I know that optics-wise, from my side of the glass, you guys didn't look super thrilled with the direction that I wanted to take your college football segment with, but it's pretty irrefutable. The people love footgirls.

I'm not sure if it's a bit. Those microphones are the best thing that Metallark Media has produced. Can one of you go get one of those microphones? Tony, I think your football takes would be a lot better with one of those microphones. I believe that you could bring the foot to life for an entire different demo.

I mean, now you want to steal footgirls. It's either theirs or no one's.

Right. Do the footgirls like footgirls?

They don't want it. They want an unnamed podcast. But Tony would be happy to have a football podcast that focuses on his feet and is.

Only- There's the next evolution. Tony can have the IP for footgirls.

And have his own. You guys are sleeping on that one. Mike gave you guys an absolute diamond in the rough, and you guys are just going to let it go to waste.

It's a great song. -foot. -it's a great song.

-foot. -you know what? Let's grab that open real quick, Studio T in.

The meantime. Yes, it is. Well, it's a great song. The problem is if you put catchy music behind it, you can make just about anything into something that looks, produced big and sound, and then you can get to the actual good football analysis that Jess and Lucy give you, which is very passionate.

Yeah, it put up numbers. It really did. It's quantifiable how many people sought out footgirls. I guess it's still pending your guys' sign-off. But like I said, when I presented footgirls, I gave you guys two months to come up with something better or anything at all, and it just went unnamed. What's the deadline here, Mike? I know we had footgirls. I can get it. Look, I mean, right now I was hurt by it because I worked really hard on this, and they didn't really seem to like it. Let's play their initial reaction right now. I know there's been a lot of debate and discourse about footgirls, but you guys know how much I value you guys' individual talents and your knowledge of college football is second and none. I just think that we need to have some branding so we can get people to search out college, football, girls, all that stuff, and have a huge, huge show for you guys going forward. And I'm really happy with what we came out with. -(music plays).

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Foot, foot. Foot, foot.

Foot, foot.

Hey.

Jess and Lucey ain't messing around. They're talking football. They're the mess in the town. They've got their toes out and their feet are small. And they are experts in college football.

It's.

Good. I went for gasp, and I got it. I really think we nailed it.

I will say this. The part about this that is not fair is all that packaging. And Jessica calls this yesterday, the greatest experience of her sports life. That's how much she cares about college football and how great yesterday was, that she has never had in her sports existence anything happen as magical as yesterday.

It was the greatest Sunday of college football history, and it ended with Notre Dame playing in the Sun Bowl. That's how great it was. I just didn't think they'd actually do it. I didn't think they'd have the guts to do it. And they did it. And the fallout was spectacular. And I think that was our...

No.

No, no.

No, foot. I think.

That Lucy and I main take on the college football show last week was, no, foot. It would be very funny if this happened. And I do feel really bad for Florida State players and coaches and maybe not fans, but it was pretty amazing what happened.

After they left them.

Out of the playoff. But tell us about the six-hour obsession. Tell us about the magic carpet ride of you're just watching Georgia fans and F. S. U. Fans totally unspool.

Yeah. Actually, I could spend the next three segments talking about what... Stop stroking the big toe. What the ACC did after this, which was send their bowl matchup. Just everything went into chaos after the selection show. I also want to talk about Liberty making a New Year's Sixth Bowl game because to me, they were one of the least qualified teams. They had the easiest schedule of all of the group of five teams. And they are now playing a New Year's Sixth Bowl game against Oregon. No foot. No foot.

No foot.

He wanted SMU there? Because I want to see that game.

But Mike, the numbers are irrefutable. It's just a bone-ified giant hit already.

It's gigantic. People love the girls. We're searching college.

Football girls. It was amazing. So what do we do with that?

I hate it, but it's so catchy.

You're going to take it, aren't you? No foot.

Don't let me try. Take a mental picture. Okay. I take a mental picture by blinking. Yeah, I just did that. Okay, great. Stugats. So you've taken a mental picture. Now, you should make a noise, too. Did you get it? Yeah. This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugats.

Spencer Hall has the twin interests of F1 and college football. They're the most important things anywhere in sporting. And he is reporting live all over the country in various ways and places to bring you the gritty underbelly of these sports in, I think, the smartest way you will find anywhere on the terrain. Super rich, culturally, knows the history of these things that he cares about. And when he pours his curiosities into things he'scares about. There are only two in sports that I know are like this. There's not a third, correct, Spencer? Is there a third that rises to the level of F1 in college football for you?

No, not even close. It would be college football, then F1, and then after that, a series of interests. So geeky and nerdy that they really don't even mention.

On the show. All right, so before I get into everything that you're doing for us, with us, and all the things you've been doing in the middle of the night because of how much you like late Saturday football and just the insanity that is like such rich cultural shit in the middle of your sporting America. Please tell me, in your historic perspective, where does yesterday rank with the most fun and amazing things you've ever seen?

Well, as far as bureaucratic foibles is pretty good because the scriptwriters for college football suck, and they always have. When they find a good storyline, it's always by accident. Like most writers, honestly, the people who write college football have never figured out a way to put together a decent ending. It's not a strength to the sport, never has been. We used to just basically have, I think, my favorite version of this, which was they seem like national champions. National champions. We used to do that, right? Back in 1980, we would just say, You know what? It feels good. Feels good if Notre Dame is a national champion. We used to vote on that before the Bulls.

That's right.

The Bulls used to be, I will say this, if you want to know what was better back then, the bowl experience. Because the bowl experience used to be everybody's going to go to a dinner and we're going to watch Coach get really drunk. That's it. That used to be like Bob DeVani coming down from Nebraska and being like.

Well, I'm taking the belt off, boys.

Belly's out.

That used to be awesome, and I really thought that was a better approach. A lot of things are better now. I'm not into nostalgia. But I got to say, I miss in a bowl game when Bear Bryant could celebrate A&M beating Alabama by picking up his protege, Jean Stawlings, which he did, by the way. I think that was the '69 Cotton Bowl. I might have the year wrong there, but he picked him up. Imagine the outrage for Boosters today, being like, How dare you celebrate their other team? It's a ball game. Doesn't matter. We're just all going to vote with our feelings at the end. I think we've come full circle because I feel like yesterday, the committee just decided to vote their feelings. They just voted vibes. They looked at a team that had an undefeated record in a conference championship at a major Power Five conference and said, Nah.

He's Spencer Hall. You can find him on DNF, the fullcast after dark, the shutdown fullcast, and the channel Six newsletter. Spencer, a lot of the reaction to what happened yesterday was like, Oh, my God, the sport has been sold to the television networks, and it's just an entertainment property now. No. No. And I guess my reaction to that, knowing a little bit of the history of college football is like, This is more of the same? So how do you tell those people, Actually, we've never had a perfect way to pick a national championship in.

College football. It's not just that we haven't had a perfect way. We've never had a good way at all. The idea of crowning a national champion is not hard.

Whoa, you stifled that one.

You pushed that one. I think a long weekend.

You pushed that one right down. What was coming up there?

That was coffee, gentlemen. It's been a very long day, and I've been asked to be billious about this situation for at least three different outlets. So pardon me if it's caffeine.

Because everyone wants your expertise, we'll take it, even if it's burpy.

Yeah, but fighting that one back, my disgust at the situation rising. We've never had a good way to end it. Never. The idea that we once did this better? No. Let me teach you a lesson about America in general, okay? It's always been stupid. Always. We've always done the dumb, wrong thing. We do the dumb, wrong thing until there are no other options. Then we do a slightly less dumb option and a slightly less wrong one. That's college football is America, and that's why.

That's the country in the sport.

That's the whole country. We do the dumbest, easiest thing, and then we do a slightly less dumb one once the mileage runs out on the dumb, wrong thing. That's the whole history of this country. College football, to me, is like part and parcel of that because we... Think about this. Fcs has been putting on a 24-team playoff. 24 teams. Sounds outrageous. Sounds like a league. Fcs has been doing this for years with ease. You put it to the people who are important in college football, and they treat it like it's a space program, and they always have. They've always been like, Whoa, I don't know about that. That seems real hard.

I can't even agree on what the space program is in FDS. No, Spencer, would you rather watch Alabama play against Michigan, or do you think that you would have liked to see Florida State get the chance?

I would much rather watch Alabama play Michigan, but that's not the point. I could put four or five teams against Michigan and go, That would be easy. It's not my job as a pundit to sit here with two little dolls with football logos on them and go, Well, what if they kissed? That's not my job. My job is to say what was the thing that you should have done in. The thing that you should have done was recognize the right of a conference champion with an undefeated record to get a spot in what is obviously the invitational you hold at the end of the season so that you can put a tiara on somebody and go, number one, look, they're obviously the best team in the country. They won another two games.

But, Spencer, why should they not factor in the fact that they're down to their third-string quarterback? And when that game comes around, they'll be on their second-string quarterback. Why shouldn't they factor that in? Travis is their best player and one of the best quarterbacks in the country. I like what the committee did because they were going to break someone's heart, and I think they broke the right fan base's hearts.

Yeah, that's really petty and short sighted, and I appreciate your sentiment there. Thank you. But I would also state this that that ain't my job. I can't be psychic. I can't tell you what to expect in a team sport. That's the thing. This is a team sport. I can't tell the dumbest football fans in the world recognize this. That is a team sport. Believe me, I don't want to be on Florida State's side. That's not a good place to be. You're going to end up in stupid town real quick if you decide to ride with the interest and preferences of Florida State fans, okay? You'll end up in a bad place. But for now, we're all on the same on the board, which is this, that Florida State's defense was outstanding. Their special teams were good. Their offense, independent of Travis, has been incredible. Did I trust, by the way, did I trust Mike Norvel with a plan to come up with something pretty good for the payoff? I actually did because that is a staffful of serious, coach-assed coaches. By the way, I mean that you don't have a lot of guys who are just recruiters on that staff.

These are dudes who love ball, love coming up with plans, love making early in-game adjustments, love coming up with outlandish plays, like an aggressive creative team. Would they have been the same? No. Tate Rotomaker is not the same. Their third-stringer is not the same. But did they deserve that chance? Yeah. I can't write science fiction and say, Well, here's what would have happened with Florida State. I can't. I don't think you'd get a Cardale Jones situation where suddenly they catch fire and manage to dominate the playoff. But that's not my... If I'm in charge of things, and I'm never going to be in charge of things, but if I were, you put them in because all I can evaluate is the evidence I have in front of me. That's it.

You can't have you in charge of things with your hair this crazy. You can't put someone in charge of things when-.

Stifling.

Burbs. I can't, stifling burbs. But you know the history of this sport. So I ask you seriously what you thought was funniest about yesterday because you've got a great sense of humor. My guess is that you've rarely laughed the way yesterday made you laugh.

I laughed at nick Saban getting another crack at this. That's funny to me. That, to me, is like every scene in the first season of Farco, when someone lets Warren Malvo go, you're like, Right, he's going to kill somebody else. There he goes. Don't let the crazy guy out because now he's losing the playoff, and I believe they're capable of anything. I laughed at Florida State fans suddenly being the greatest debaters on the internet. This is my favorite, is that you would get some national pundit who decided, ill-advisedly decide with the committee and go, Oh, no, that's a better matchup. I think the committee is just looking out for the game. Yeah, that's their job, guys. Great call. Then you get some guy who's basically like, he probably owns a nice refrigeration service somewhere in Coleman, Alabama. And he's like, Actually, I did some research, buddy, and just torching him in an eight-tweet thread with great numbers and facts about this. I love that. I love ending up on the side like, I'm a Florida fan. I ended up on the side of Florida State. You end up going like, I am in the worst possible position here.

They're right. They're 100 % right.

I laughed at the ACC yesterday. How much do we blame them for not being as good at campaigning for their conference champion as Greg Sanke clearly is?

Did we notice yesterday? I don't know if you were following bowl announcements or anything. There was a period between 1:00 and 4:30 around where bowl announcements, they were going out very specifically and they were saying it's going to be this team versus insert ACC team. That's because the ACC was completely asleep at the wheel. The ACC didn't have a conference call with their bowl partners, which is customary for the conference. I thought once the committee determined that ACC games simply don't count for the national title, I'm watching that delay going, Conference might have blown up. Conference might be dead. They might have just decided, Nah, let's wrap it here. I laughed at that. I laughed at the fact that we had to use placeholders because the ACC couldn't get their business together for bowl season, which is a season, by the way, where there are little markers that say, This team goes to this bowl.

I need to ask you about Liberty getting a shot to play in a New York Sixth bowl game now, despite having one of the worst... Competition wise, one of the worst schedules this year. You're obsessed.

With Liberty. What are you obsessed with?

I don't know how- I'm assuming she's against it.

I.

Think if you're a Florida.

State fan and you want a joker moment, it should be boo Corrigan saying that Liberty got the New Year's sixth bowl bid because they just kept winning. If you need a reason, not that you do as a Florida State fan to just absolutely have a nervous break and crack, it's that. Because they said Liberty, because they're undefeated Conference USA Champions, they get this New Year's Sixth Bowl bid, not Southern Methodist who fits the criteria more so than Alabama does that jumped.

Four states in the top four. And was good, and they had their best defense in 40 years. Smu had their best defense in 40 years.

So riddle me that. It's not that it really matters because there's going to be so many opt-outs and they've really devalued the New York sixth bowl games. But I just want to know what you think, Spencer.

That I'm going to enjoy Oregon grinding them to a fine paste? That's going to be fantastic. I'm really... I'm really enjoying that. I have a general rule that if I get a chance because I practice class warfare when it comes to my bowl games and my interconference matchups, if I get a state school versus a private school, I was root for the state school, always. I get that in this case. Additionally, you get Liberty, which is in America you can call anything university, and that's fine, and you can feel the football team. Of course, the people I feel worse for in this instance are the players who are just like, Listen, I don't know, school is weird, whatever. They gave me money to come here and play football. I do feel for the player somewhat, but seeing them get this spot in a New Year's Six game, especially over SMU, I'm always going to ride for SMU, too, because SMU too because SMU, Pioneers, and economically liberated college football recruiting.

That's.

Right. I will always.

Respect them for that. Didn't they offer Eric Dickerson an oil well or something? They were way ahead of the times.

Spencer, you mentioned the way that national championships were previously handed out, where the bowl games would matter. Then after the bowl season, the Associated Press would get together and crown a champion. Then someone like Alabama would just crown themselves champion, and then it was a mess. But if we had that previous system in place, you might see a scenario where Georgia could get back into the national title conversation. We just had a Georgia team lose by three back to back reigning national champions, a 29-game win streak. This is a very odd way for this whole run to end. Can you put it in perspective?

Well, one that when we talk about a run ending, we're really only talking about the actual number of games in a row. We're not talking about Georgia's overall dominance ending. Go look at their recruiting rankings. Go look at their depth chart. They still have a disgusting amount of talent. There are very few indicator lights flashing on that dashboard. Football programs, big complex thing. Georgia is still doing everything completely correctly. I want everybody to know, by the way, the weirdest thing about that game, it did come down to a turnover, like one turnover. One team managed to capitalize for three points on a turnover. That's the difference in that game. But the interesting thing about that game is this, that they trusted Carson Beck all year long to run that offense and to throw 30, 35 times. They were more than comfortable having him in the position to save them if they needed him to. In that game, they decided for some weird reason to run the ball. I don't know why, because that's not their approach all year long. The run's been opened up by the past. But otherwise, if you want, Georgia's dominance is not on hold.

If anything that was a brief pause, they're going to be back.

Next year. But, Spencer, I thought the second half of that game, they made the defensive adjustments. Alabama couldn't really move the ball. Alabama's corners are amazing cornerbacks. Texas's receivers are way too big, and so that's what happened to them. But Alabama, in that game, deserved to lose it at the end. Georgia was going to come back and win that game, and they turned the ball over inside their own 20-yard line because they botched a snap. The idea that that champion would go down to a knee with that groan, and at the end, the committee would be like, Yeah, whatever. Not the last few years when it matters that they won in that conference against the top 20 teams by a combined score of 140 to 40. We know that team is good, period. If Alabama has to eke out a victory against them, and we're all surprised by it because Alabama was the underdog, we're all very familiar with the idea that Georgia is one of the best teams in the country. If we're doing this about what we think about who's best, everyone would say that.

Yeah, but we are making it up on the fly, and we will continue to make it up on the fly. By the way, I'm not going to go ahead and give people too much credit here. I think at one point, if Georgia had come up in the debate over this, the fact that it was Alabama mattered a lot. If there was an SEC West team that had managed to just creep in, like if we had a nine and four LSU team or whatever come in and managed to eke out a victory over them, it would not have had the same impact. If it had been some rogue wave Texas A&M team that had come in and done that, like some for-lost team that managed to pull off the upset, then we would view it a lot differently. A loss is not a loss. A win is not a win. And we're just going to go on vibes. I think we're all clear on that after yesterday. You got a vibe? Embrace it. Do you have some wild, too gotsy, and personal idea that has no basis in reality that you're just absolutely firing from the hip?

Hey, congratulations. You could be a committee member. That's you.

I got my matches.

I'm good. He does the smartest college football stuff out there, and the F1 stuff with Jessica is excellent. No, not football. You said it. We all heard you. You approved it. It's been approved. That's consent.

Foot, foot, foot.

Thank you, Spencer.

You're welcome. Don't live.

A tard. Do you realize that for 30 minutes… Now, we might not have been doing good show, but we were doing show for about 30 minutes, and then you just decided to tell the story as if we were in the eating area?

Stugatz. Many refer to it as a kitchen.

Right. Eating area. Who calls it an eating area?

Nobody. Nobody.

I'm eating area. What's the bedroom? The sleeping area? Hang on, I got to go to the urinating area. I'll be right back.

The eating area. This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugats. I mean.

Think about all the times. Who is it? Connor Cook that started that game for the Raiders in the playoffs? Think about all the times we wish we would have had a committee just say, Yeah, they got the wildcard. They did what they had to do because they won the games, but come on, they're not winning anything with Connor Cook or Y-A tiddle. Let's just kick them out.

Of here. The Dolphins went to Buffalo. They almost won the game, though, but they went there with Schuyler Thompson.

Yeah, Matt Moore, Schuyler Thompson. I'm sorry you had a wonderful year. You did everything you needed to, but we're going to go ahead and put in Russell Wilson because he's a star.

It's better.

I want to pin Dan down for his top four in this college football playoff because it seems like he's made the argument for every team at some point today. In the last segment, you were offended on George's behalf. The FSU earlier.

Pick four teams, man. You got eight teams. You two.

College football playoff. This is where I am on it. Thank you for calling me out on it.

I also said why Tidal when I was thinking.

Tj Yates. It was really weird. I didn't understand where that Yate Tiddle. Maybe you're becoming me now. Maybe I can make fun of you for misplacing names. Yate Tiddle is a quarterback from the 1940s.

I was going with a great pool, TJ Yates. Yeah, I got it. It became Yate Tiddle. It's why you don't aim for the stars with the DJ Yates.

Thank you for calling me out on that, Chris, because, and you really have unmasmed me in a way that makes me feel naked in front of the people. I've been dreaming for this day when it's just commerce and chaos, and I could just make every argument- Christ, man, give us the teams. -every argument on every side in order. No, but yeah, I know you guys want to get to the give you the teams. Maybe that'll be the big payoff. At the end, I'll give you my own personal teams, but I want the content around. Absolutely. Let's just have committees pay... Let's have it be call and votes. Let's see if we can figure out to make this totally democratic. I'm telling you, Stugart, if I told you right now, here's the pregame show to what Jessica called the greatest sports day of her life yesterday. All of these schools, eight of them, you get to get one person. Your fan base picks one person to go in front of America and make the argument on behalf of your team. Then America votes. Combine everything, the debate and the argument combined with, Who do you just think is going to win America and throw it to vote?

I think you make College football the mass singer and makes it an even.

Bigger hit. If I'm Florida State, I don't choose Deion Sanders. How did we all arrive at a place where everyone is so upset about Florida State, except the guy who should be upset about Florida State, and that's Deion Sanders.

There is legit beef there. Deion Sanders has resented Florida State for the first time that he was up for that job, and they didn't pick him. He wanted that chance. He wants to remind them of it every time out. Like you said, he's battling with them in the portal. It's gotten to the point now. Maybe several years down the road, who knows where Mike Norville's career takes him. But I don't think there's ever a scenario in which Deion Sanders goes back to Florida State. That's how charred the bridge is right now.

You're never going to.

Give us these.

Four.

Teams. I am, but I'm going to tease it. Is Washington in? Yes, absolutely. I've loved Washington all year. Like where?

1, 2, 3.

Or 4. Mike will tell you. I'm saying you're betting against Pennex again. Are you a fool? He's playing the best quarterback, deep ball game in the entire sport.

Sounds like you have Texas out.

I would make a wash. Okay, we'll get there. Let's slow play this. Let's build it.

Let's build it. I'm a little foreplay.

You guys get right in there. I gave you one. I gave you one. No, no, no.

We'll reach you around. I was watching the college football playoff. Part of me was like, All right, where is Dan going to send me with a national championship trophy?

This is what I want to do, Mike, because ESPN blocked us when we wanted to make UCF Champions because all of this is assinine. It's stupidity. It's not about merit. It's about sillyness. I found a blue. I was arguing at ESPN for UCF because, and it took me all the way to the campus President. Hey, we'll make a big scene about you guys are actually the national champions. Here's where I'm angling for. I wouldn't put FSU in because-What? When FSU-Covered champion. -beats Georgia, I want this show to give it the Stugat's trophy of you guys win because you beat Georgia. I know Georgia should be in there. Georgia is one of the best teams in the country.

Michigan is not what Georgia is. Wait, so if Florida State beats Georgia, you feel like they should win the national championship? I think.

With your face on it.

They would.

Have a claim. I think we should go to… I want to put Mike Ryan in the position where he has to lead a parade at FSU sponsored by Metallar.

It feels like punishment. But also I do find- We're going to Tallahassee. I do find FSU Twitter becoming UCF Twitter at the end of all this pretty funny.

Because I- UCF's been.

Having a day. Yeah, because they could see if they beat Georgia. If they beat Georgia in that bowl game, I'm good with it. Claim your national title. It feels super legitimate.

We think they're going to get dragged and therefore they're going to get bailed out. The committee is going to get... But UCF didn't bail them out by beating Auburn.

You know what I would bet my life on? That if we had the expanded playoff, I'd bet my life on FSU being ranked for then. I'd bet my life that this very same committee over a 12-team playoff would have then rewarded FSU for their season and said, Well, don't worry, Alabama, they'll get in and they'll have their chance to fight, but we'll put you number four because you deserve it. I would bet my life on that.

They are plus 14 against Georgia.

I don't care about that. I really don't. First off, spreads are made to get 50-50 action, and spreads aren't in an indicator of anything. Right. People have been wrong.

It indicates something.

I'm.

With you the money. The biggest bullshit in all of this is everybody just consensus wise. Yeah, Alabama is better than them. Yeah. No, they would lose. You know how wrong everybody's been over the last two weeks? Everybody. Not the Iron Bull being that. No one had Louisville looking like that. No one had the FSU going into the Ben Hill-Griffin' Stadium and doing that after the start of that game. So don't tell me how bad FSU is when they've been proving you wrong all year. Found a.

Long horn.