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It feels flimsy, thin to me, Stugatz, what Jessica is saying. She's not wrong, but it just feels flimsy to me in argument culture, in debate culture, that if I disagree with person X's opinion, all I'm going to do is say that person is irrelevant or say, who the hell is that person? I don't care. But it is in line with things getting, it seems to me, just a little bit dumber all over. And one of the places it has gotten just a little bit dumber all over is where it is that you, I'm asking the audience here when I say you, get your comedy and how you get your comedy. Because Shane Gillis went on Saturday Night Live this weekend, and he said to the audience there, You probably don't even know who I am because there are a whole lot of comedians like Shane Gillis who occupy a different space from in the audience at Saturday Night Live. It's a growing space. It's a freer space than the mainstream. There are a whole bunch of podcasts in the top hundred by comedians who have giant economies around them, and it's not the mainstream. Shane Gillis goes on Saturday Night Live.

I told you, Stugatz, before the pandemic, I saw Louis CK before Louis CK's Troubles on Saturday Night Live. This is a stand-up comic at the very top of his game. I don't remember what the three topics were. I think he went Israel, Palestine, pedophilia, and then some other third rail topic effortlessly as the monolog on Saturday Night Live. I couldn't believe how well he did that subject matter because it seemed hugely pressurized. Shane Gillis got celebrated this weekend for saying gay, saying rude, and doing down syndrome stuff. He also said cracker in a 20-second span and then said, Most of my stuff doesn't even work on television. He said, I can't do most of my material on television. But he was being celebrated as someone who was pushing boundaries. I mean, not particularly well compared to what it is that I'm talking about, even though the monolog was fine and the most pressurized situation of his career, because that seemed to me as I was watching it before, it seemed like a big nervous situation at the start, and it seemed, and he said so, that he's never been that nervous. It It seemed like a ton of pressure to go from, you were let go by Saturday Night Live before your career started, when people started digging into your podcast past, and now people have a problem with Saturday Night Live because you've gone to the front of the line.

And in the five years so if cancel culture doesn't actually exist and can actually help your career, he got to host Saturday Night Live the way Eddie Murphy did when he was their star cast member by not being on Saturday Night Live. Did any of you see it? Because I thought it was a good monolith blog. He's funny. I thought he was funny, and it was a real, real difficult situation for him.

It is. When you are basically not in to somewhere, not let in somewhere because of something that you've done, but then they also bend the knee and allow you to cut the line and host and let you do the things that you're great at his Trump. I thought the Trump sneaker skit was really funny. He does an excellent Trump. There's things that Shane does in pockets that are really good. And yeah, it's an impossible spot for him to be there and be like, All right, I'm me. You know the story, but I'm here, and I'm going to try to make you laugh, even though it's weird.

Do you guys agree with me, though, that they're not the same people? The Saturday Night Live audience is not necessarily the audience where Bert Kreischer and-Who is a Saturday Night Live audience, honestly?

Because I feel like-I think it's just people who want to go and have viewed it as something historically cool.

I don't know that there's that many people who are showing up specifically for a host.

But do people watch it live still? Because I feel like it just now lives as social clips, doesn't it? Yeah, like every other show. Yeah. So who's this audience?

Oh, my gosh. A Notre Dame game went late a couple of years ago on NBC, and it went straight into SNL, and it was like a jump scare.

I was like, Where's the remote?

Get it off.

I don't want to watch this.

Bedtime. Three hours ago.

Realistically, I think it's a cool thing, right? When you are a person that is not able to do something, and then you're now able to do something because of what you've done on the back end to grow your career. I see it as a really cool thing, regardless of what clouds the situation. I like Shane. I've gone to see Shane live. He's right. The things that he does in person, he cannot do on TV, but that's who he is. It's either you like Shane Gillish or you don't. And it's okay if you don't. That's what it is.

Most stand-up comedians are going to sanitize what it is that they do for a general nationalized audience on SNL. What's weirder and seemingly more concerning, because I the monolog, too, and I thought it was funny. I didn't think anything was really too over the line. He used the words that you mentioned, and now the right wing on Twitter in particular is celebrating the fact that he use those words as if he used them maliciously within his company.

But this is why I'm saying- He just used them. This is why I'm saying all of these conversations and everything around this is getting just slightly dumber by degrees. When I'm telling you That what Louis CK did was on subject matter that's hard and that Shane wasn't doing that. He wasn't actually pushing any of the boundaries that he pushes as someone who's in a bit of disguise, Stugatz, because he's getting the Bud Light promos. Because Bud Light has had its business actually crater. Bud Light has been damaged and is now trying to correct it by giving money to UFC, by giving money to Shane Gillis, who identifies as every man but is in costume. I think that if I had to check Shane Gillis's actual politics, I think they would be closer to mine than the average person on the conservative side, but he's playing on the line.

He is. I think that's where the brilliance of Shane is like, I'm going to make fun of this. You don't really know where I stand. I told you I'm pre-Republican because I think about World War II. He has those bits that stray the line of where he really is. But at the end of the day, again, it's two camps. I don't want to hark on it, but it's like either you get it and you like what he does or you don't. There's people here that I have conversations with Matthew Kugler who doesn't like Shane. He's like, I think he takes the joke too far. And I'm like, Hey, I get that. But I like that part about it. That, to me, makes me laugh.

I feel like we're overthinking this. They didn't want him to host the show before because he said bad things. We overthink everything. And now he's just hosting the show because he's popular and they want the bomb of his fans.

He was going to be on the show. He's going to be one of the characters and one of the people.

He was going to be on the show before.

I know. Then he got fired because of the things that he said. Now he's popular, and they said, You know what? Never mind. We don't really care about them. We don't have morals after all. It didn't hurt his- They brought him in for the priority.

That's when they brought- They had Nikki Haley on two weeks ago.

Yeah, and they brought Morgan Wallen back three weeks after he said the N-word. It's not like this is a standard. They had Trump on.

It didn't hurt his career at all to be let go. It probably sucked at the time. I'm sure it did. It helped his career. But no, it did. It did end up helping his career. Now, Saturday Night Live needs those ratings bumps. They need to take more chances than that because they are not the cultural influencer they were, because so many people react the way that Jessica does, because any Saturday Night Live conversation you hear these days is about how it's not what it used to be.

But to Jess's point, it made it more controversial on Twitter. Now the engagement with the SNL clips is there because you have all of these people on the right propping up what this monolog was and all of these things. Then you have all of the people potentially on the left, I haven't seen very much of it, talking this SNL because, Oh, man, he was fired and he said this. They're trying to track in that divisiveness where Shane is almost, in some ways, the exact opposite of that, and that he's trying to just toe the line between you don't really know what I think. Whether or not he's funny, I haven't watched all that much of Shane Gillis' standup. No, he's funny. But the monolog was fine, and it wasn't all of the things that now people are trying to make it.

You can argue that he's bigger now, right? Since his fiasco back at that point, he's more popular now than anybody on the SNL cast across the board.

That's correct. Put some respect on Keenan Thompson's name.

I mean, Keenan's been doing it for a great time. Compiler, he's been there forever. Not the point. Compiler? Yeah, he has been a Compiler. Really? I mean, that's just my opinion. Who is that?

Aren't the hosts always more famous than the cast members?

Yes, but this one is different, though.

He was supposed to be a cast member. Now he's so big that he is now a host, not a cast member. He's bigger than every cast member that's there.

That's so different than some of the writers who got... John Mulaney was a writer for the show that nobody knew, and then he went on to have a stand-up career, and he comes back and he's hosted it, what, five times, I think. It's because they get to go be so much more famous through stand-up.

When I talk about individual brands, though, Stugatz throughout media being something that's helping media crumble, I'm talking about here. I'm talking about Saturday Night Live needs Shane Gillis for a night more than Shane Gillis needs Saturday Night Live for a night. I mentioned this about Shannon Sharp a while ago, Stugatz. Very quietly, Skip Bayliss is going to be out of a job soon because his ratings have tanked because individual brands have helped take the marketplace to a totally different place where you follow the people you like, the people who say the things that you want them to say a little bit more than you follow credible news organizations because of how all of this is fracturing. But speaking of comedy here, I want to show you what the Pelicans, the New Orleans Pelicans, did to Stephen A. Smith on their social media account after Stephen A. Smith. I think the reason for this, correct me if I'm wrong, is the reason for this? Because Steven A. Smith said, made a bunch of hamburger jokes at the expense of Zion Williamson. And so this is how the Pelicans react to it. Now, this man was a bona fide scrub.

He can't play. No disrespect whatsoever. But I'm sorry to tell everybody the truth. The man cannot play the game of basketball. He has small hands. He can't catch the ball. He's got bad feet. He can't really move, even though he's mobile, doesn't really know what he's doing, doesn't have a post-move that he puts to memory that he can do two times in a row. He has no game whatsoever, plays no defense, doesn't have the heart, the passion, or anything that comes with it. I need to explain to the audio audience that what you were hearing there was accompanied by video of Steven A. Smith falling down while on a basketball court recently and shooting an airball and then was finished with his point totals from college, which were a point of game, and then the Wilt Chamberlain photo of him holding up instead of 100 points, 1.5, his average scoring average in college.

He was boxing, too, at some point. He had dress shoes on. That's a tricky game on a basketball court. Yeah, dangerous game.

It means right, though. There's nothing funnier than someone falling down. I laughed out loud like a faud.

When he fell down on the court.

Tough first pitch there, too.

Yes. It was bad video of him being unathletic.

I don't think I could do better.

You don't think you can do better than the bounced first pitch? It's long.

It would be close.

It's tough, Dan. You're throwing off a mound. It's at an angle. It's a hold thing. You ever step on a bump?

You got to zip one in there, guys. Come on.

Throw a baby right on the plate.

I don't think that's hard.

Oh, come on, Dan. Come on.

I could an orange a hundred yards.

Marlin's challenge to you. Get Dan Lebitard throwing out a first pitch.

A first pitch, guys.

Have you ever done it?

I haven't. I don't think it's hard.

Off the bump.

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Don Levatard. Teammates can't shoot from three. Now they're going to see a different Jimmy. Now he's just, just playing. Nickel back in the locker room and- Stugatz. They'll play D and show threes. Ask This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats. I am looking forward to finding out the details before I call Chris Whittingham a coward on why it is that he was broadcasting a game the other day after making such a big deal around here in our little playpen about why Why don't national and international broadcasters just say the word penis when someone gets hit in the penis? It's a scientific term. It's anatomy. It's not a dirty word. It's just science. And he had his opportunity, evidently, this weekend to do it. We're going to play the video and the audio here, but somebody gets hit in the junk, and all of our listeners who heard it pointed out like, What is this? I thought Whittingham was the brave soul who was going to lead a pioneering revolution on behalf the word penis.

Let me stop you right there, Dan, because you just said junk. Why did you say junk and not penis?

Because I've been grandfathered in from a previous time of cowardice, and his movement hasn't caught any strength or wind. His movement has just died. Even amongst himself. But he was the one saying he was going to be a principled penis pioneer.

Yeah, but he's on CBS now. Ppp.

Paramount. But the thing is, it's tough because when you're broadcasting, and the ball ricochets into that area, there's into the penis. No, this is what I'm trying to say, because it may not hit you in the penis. It may hit you in the nuts.

It may not hit you in the penis. This wasn't an accuracy thing. He's brave when he's on this show, and then he's there doing the real broadcaster thing. He's like, I can't do that.

Has anyone had an other opinion other than that one? Everyone's just calling him a coward. It feels dishonest. It feels like he was pioneering for something he's not actually brave enough to do himself.

I agree with that. I think he's also trying to impress the new bosses, trying to make himself sound serious, trying to shed the Levitard show cast that has been put over him by being on the show and being the funny guy. Now, he's serious, Chris Whittington.

He's no longer-He used to be the funny guy.

Whitty the fancy lad.

Exactly. Funny guy Chris.

That's what everyone called him.

Exactly.

Were you guys or are you guys now ashamed adjacent? Were you ashamed of him for advocating-I don't think him.

It's not going to get ashamed or proud. I just don't really have any thoughts. I have no idea he called the game open. Yeah, me neither. I thought, I'm like, Good for him, but I'm not watching Conca Caffe, Whatever the Hell.

All right, let's play that video from Conca Caffe, Whatever the hell.

Accessing his options, tries to get the early cross and enforcing Khabia to lunge at it.

No commentary needed on that. I think we all felt that one a bit.

I'll say that no play That's what I played needed for that sentence.

All right, that's just cowardness.

It is. Silence.

We all felt that one.

I mean, you can't say that.

Well, and you're sitting there watching this dude grab-With both hands.

Correct. Yeah.

You know exactly what's going on. He's waiting there in silence, waiting for the color commentator to say something first.

Right in the hog. I'm with Tony on this. It needs to escalate from penis to hog. Right in the hog, it would have been laugh out loud funny.

Caca-caff.

It was a Serie A game.

Is that League's Cup or is that...

Oh my God.

During that silence, Witty was just like, Fuck.

Oh, he was thinking about it.

Shit, shit, shit.

I hope no one's watching this.

No one's watching this. That's not true.

He said, I hope no one's watching this from the Leventard show.

I don't think he was hoping that, though. Yeah. Let's see. We're going to talk to Wittingham. We're going to get him on and ask him why he was such a coward. I'm proud of Whitty. I am.

Showing some restraint. He's got a big gig.

He's trying to impress the bosses. He's not letting the Leventard show.

He's not bringing any of this into his broadcast. I think Whitty's doing a great job. You You can't go penis there, Dan. You can't do it.

It's his first couple of weeks of the job.

Can't do it. I feel like...

Well, it's not. He's been gone for a year and a half already. Yeah, but this is a new gig for him, calling games for Paramount and CBS, and he's very excited about it.

It's a bigger job. It's a bigger gig. He's on the ascent. He's getting some of the bigger jobs in the sport.

I feel like if he's doing his job as a co-recommentator, a play-by-play guy, whatever it is that he does, he says, Well, that doesn't need any explanation. There's a lot of people that don't have penises that don't know what that pain is. Maybe you walk them through exactly why that hurts so much.

You should be describing the pain.

Exactly right. You've been there before. You've probably gotten hit there. There's people that haven't walked them through it. That's what an analyst does. That's what a good play-by-play person does. Dead Air is the worst case scenario. You just say nothing, get out of here.

Yeah, he should describe exactly why it hurts to get hit in that area.

Exactly. Explain that sometimes there's a delay. It's when you stub your toe sometimes. There's a delay. You don't feel it right away, but you know it's coming.

Because as someone without a penis, my whole life, no one's ever actually He told me or informed me that it hurts to get hit in that area. See?

Right. Witty could have filled that void.

You will be able to ask him all of these questions in a few minutes when he comes on with this. Yes. There's been some bad phrasing over the course of this segment. Can you tell me, Billy, you were gone last week. What did you do with your free time? Did you go anywhere?

I went to Disney World, then.

How'd that go? Oh.

Disney World with kids is different. It's great. Love it. I don't believe that. Love kids. It's work. You texted me something different. Why did I text you? I texted you.

I'm going to find it.

I love my children and my family. Love them. Love Disney World. Couldn't do a single thing I wanted to do at Disney World, though.

What did you want to do?

You know, ride the Rock 'n' Roller Coaster, Tower of Terror, any of those things. There's a new guardians of the Galaxy ride.

That one is really fun at Epcot.

That's a whole thing. Don't get me started on that because Disney now- To wait seven hours for that ride. I had Disney figured out, Dan. I had it figured out. I knew exactly how you do the best Disney, how you go on, and you reserve your fast passes. And then you Elites came in, and now all of a sudden, you can't go to Disney for a reasonable price, number one. You can't write anything unless you buy this Genie Plus thing, which is Which is a scam. $30 a day per person on top of $180 just to get in for the ticket. It's a whole thing. Then you can't get more than one at a time. Before, it was free. And if you put in the work, you could have a great day at Disney. If you went there and you had the schedule and you did this It's the whole thing. I drove my family crazy for years when we had the free Disney, which was planned horribly timing-wise on my part, where I had it for free, and then I had kids, and then I lost it, and now I have to pay. It's a whole thing we don't need to get into today.

But I used to drive my family crazy because they were bouncing from thing to thing, one side of the park to the other. We got all of our steps in for the year in our Disney trips. I'm telling you, but we went on everything. Now it's impossible to go on all these things. And then even these lightning lanes that you pay for, then there's an additional cost on top of that that you have to pay if you want to go on a newer thing. It's a whole thing. And also, I remember being happier and friendlier than it was. That's a great point. Not the friendliest. Walt Disney would be rolling in his grave. I'm getting yelled at if I want my dull whip in a cone or in a cup. What does a cup look like? What size cup is it? I don't know. It said that it was a cone. Now you're switching up on me. I have to decide cone or cup. Very angry. Very angry. The way they were yelling at me. It wasn't nice. It made me feel not good. Yeah. And then I was driving on the Expressway, and I was driving past the Star Wars thing.

And you know what I saw? Steel beans. Beams. Turns out those aren't mountains. Just the tips of them are mountain tops on the edges of steel beams, and you could see the exposed steel beams. I feel like this is what Walt would not have wanted. He didn't want us to see how things actually worked. I wanted to think I was in Narnia or whatever Star Wars world is called over there, where you see the actual mountain tops, not these steel beams. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. That's not the case anymore.

Why are you all waiting in line to take pictures?

How many pictures do we need to take with Mickey Mouse?

That's your kid's fault.

We met Mickey four times. I feel like once sufficed per We met Mickey. Okay, now we're going to meet Mickey the next day. It's like Mickey remembers us from the day before. We don't need to take another picture with Mickey and then sign the autograph book. I also think, and I will posit this to the class and tell me what you guys think about this, there should be separate lines for adults who go to Disney World as just adults because they really slow everything down for the people that are there with the children. Adults don't need to take pictures with Mickey Mouse. Adults, if you're waiting 45 minutes to meet Mickey Mouse, reprioritize your life. I don't want to be that guy that says that. It's a great take. It's a whole thing.

You're anti-Disney adult?

I'm anti them holding up the lines for children who are there to meet their heroes. When you're there and you're like, Oh, please.

You were just complaining about your children.

I know. I love my children, but that's why it becomes such a chore, and it's so much work is because I'm going and I'm waiting in 50 minutes lines to meet these characters because there's all these groups of adults that just want to take pictures with them. Do that when you're a child.

Do that another time. Why are the rest of you agreeing with Billy?

Because I'm right about all of this, Dan. I'm That's right.

Well, I don't know how they know that you're right about Disney being less happy and less friendly.

No, it's not even... Look, it's not even a thing that I'm just making up. No, you're right. Disney, at one point in time, and you can look this up, was the happiest place on Earth. Right. And guess what happens when you drive in now? You know what the sign says? The most magical place on Earth. At some point, someone said, You know what? Not as happy as it used to be.

We used to be a proper country.

There are happier places on Earth, and someone realized it.

I've only been to Disney one time. What? I didn't grow up in Florida. It was a big deal to go to Disney World. We only did it once. I don't have Disney bona fides. You guys go there 10 times a year, I feel like.

No, I can't afford that anymore.

When you work for YES.

When it was free, we used to.

Did you only get two vouchers a year?

Two vouchers, please. Child's Play. They used to give us a Silver Pass. The Silver Pass was you plus three guests.With Park Hopper.What?With Park Hopper.With Park Hopper. What? With Park Hopper. With parking. You plus three guests.

With 20% off at the store.

The parking situation I didn't explore because I'm not ballsy enough to do it, but it's just your Disney ID.I've.

Done it. Still free?

I've done it twice. You just show them your Disney ID. I give it to my brother-in-law who looks nothing like me, and he did it. That's crazy because now it's $35 to park there. $30, $35, $35, something like that to park. Three days, you saved $100 just by showing them your old Disney ID. You get the Silver Pass, right? So it's you plus three guests. Then when you get married, you tell them, I got married, and you get an extra Silver Pass. So you get one, your spouse gets one plus three guests plus, plus, plus, plus. Twice a year, they'll give you two free passes that you don't have to be there for, that you can just give as gifts to people.

I think you were just happier when you used to go to Disney because you weren't paying for it. It was the best.

Are you kidding me? Oh my God.

You're projecting on everyone else.

Then at the holiday time, they send you popcorn passes and all these things that you go and you wait in a line. Oh, I love it so much.

But if you're an ESPN employee and you live in Bristol, realistically, are you ever using those?

A total waste for those people. Yeah, they go once a year, maybe, but a total waste.

Has there been an announcement of any kind that it went from the happiest place on Earth to the Was there a moment?

No, that's one of those things. You do that under the radar. Done under the cloak of darkness. Exactly right. You can't tell people that you're doing that. Who wants to admit the place is no longer happy? Exactly. It used to be the happiest, formerly happiest place on Earth doesn't sell as many tickets.

Magical place?

We'll tell you, the Universal Studio employees, they're a lot happier than the Disney employees.

It's actually magical there because they have the Harry Potter stuff.

They're way, way nicer to you than the people at Disney. Really? Yeah. Every year, we take Camp Fiesta, the camp that I'm involved with, to Disney and to Universal. At Disney, now, Now, they used to give us free passes to skip the lines because we're good dealing with kids with cancer who are going and can't really wait out in the hot sun. Now, all Disney does is give you those Genie Plus passes that people can pay for. Where at Universal Studios, they're still taking in, they're asking everybody questions. They're doing it with a smile on their face, where at Disney, we got yelled at for trying to get a kid an extra bottle of water.

I just googled the happiest place on Earth. Turns out, Finland.What?Wow. Took it from Disney World.

Please.

Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Lebitard's show. Did you know that Finland took the happiest place on Earth, Bonafide's from Disney World?

Since 2023, it seems.

Also put on the poll, where would you prefer to be? The happiest place on Earth or the most magical place on Earth? Because I think magic includes happiness, but happiness doesn't always include magic. Don Levatard.

You got to know I'm a big Columbo guy. Salute to that boy.

Okay, I don't think that's proof. I don't think that's I think that's a lie. I don't think that- He said, Salute. I don't think that is evidence. Salute to that boy. It suggests camouflage. It suggests that Juju has no idea what we're talking about, and now he's just googling it. Stugatz.

I'm not googling it. My grandmama stayed in the country. I watched the Braves. I watched Columbo. I watched Matlock. I watched Andy Griffin. It's a little bit you, sir. But you go to the pin of the box, damn. You tell him Juju. You tell him Juju.

You tell him Juju.

Back to you, Stu. This is the Dan Levatard show with the Stugats.

Kineticutter. No way, dude. No way. It's Connecticut. It has to be. I'm 80% sure.

Connecticutian.

I think it's Connecticut. No, man. There's no way.

I think that's the best one of the available options.

What do you call a person from Connecticut. It can't be a Connecticut. Lame. Here is Chris Whittingham. Speaking of lame, give him his introduction. Chris Whittingham, rising broadcaster, conquering the industry with great professionalism and disappointing our audience and the shipping container with what happened this weekend. We will allow him to explain himself. I am five minutes removed of saying I'm proud of Chris Whittingham, and now I'm bullying him. That's right. That is how it works with No thought travels from one sentence to the next with him. No consistency, nothing of the sort. Winningham, it is nice to see you. What was the reaction? Did you get a lot of general hostility and disappointment from our audience because you were a coward once you reached the heights of broadcasting prestige and you couldn't pull the trigger on Penis?

It's Paramount Plus. I mean, come on.

The Super Bowl was on Paramount Plus.

The Super Bowl was on Nickelodeon also. It was Paramount Plus. No one said, What channel is the Super Bowl on? Paramount Plus. Get out of here, buddy.

I'm so proud. We said, Streaming records for our ability to stream the Super Bowl on Paramount Plus. I'm not having this. Anyway, once Ryan When Jorge texted me, You're a coward, I knew that things were going to go poorly for me on the internet and that I was going to get ratted out. Because believe it or not, this has happened before, and I just got away with it. Nobody from the audience happened to be watching. Whenever this When this happens, I look at the screen that I'm calling the game from and I go, Oh, no. Am I going to have to say it again? I've just decided, You know what, guys? I'm out. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.I did it once. Out. It was your thing. I know. You know what happened, Tony? After I did it... By the way, I did it a year and a half ago. It's been a long time. My goal was that eventually the industry would change and there would be a sworn of people that would come from behind me and realize that this is now acceptable. It's not. I didn't change a thing. Nothing happened.

Why am I going to bang my head against this proverbial door and humiliate myself on television? I don't want to do that.

This is how things work.

It's not going to be easy for you. Giving up on the revolution that quick?

Imagine if George Washington is 1777, America, never mind.

Then we'd be living in England right now, and I actually think that'd be nice. Yeah, you would like that.

You would like that. Woody, during the silence during that broadcast, after you realized he had been hit in the penis, you 100% were thinking, God damn it, not this again, right? Yes, absolutely.

That's what's going through your mind. 100%, and especially, I'm waiting for... I'm waiting because the last time that this happened, the analyst carried me through it. I forget where it was and when it was, but the analyst just kept talking and talking. I was like, Thank you for allowing me the out to not have to say this. But once he goes, no further analysis needed of that, then I have to go, Oh, no. I have to come up with a quip. I have to say something. And I came up with, Well, no further play-by-play needed of that then. And I expressed my cowardness.

It seems like you're pitting this on the analyst for saying that.

No, I mean, realistic. One can hope. One can hope that the analyst will come to my aid. But in this case, he did not. I don't like this picture and picture that's happening right now. This has been staring at me from the bathroom every single day since we moved in here last week.

Since you left, that's on the bathroom. Every single day. We can say Penis More.

Wait, on the bathroom or in the bathroom?

No, on the door to the bathroom. It reads, We can say Penis more.

It's our giant urinal cake, actually. Yeah. You just piss on it with your dick turns.

Let them eat urinal cake, am I You can't lead a revolt and then just wander off into the Bushes scared and have it be because you reached at a more prestigious level of broadcasting.

You can't be proud of yourself there.

Is Apple TV not a big enough platform for you either? Yeah, I have given up. I've given up. I've given up my revolution. It's been a year and a half. Not one other broadcaster on one other platform. You can make fun of me for being on Paramount Plus. There are plenty of broadcasters that are on platforms smaller than that that don't use the word either. Why am I going to continue? We made headlines. It turned into a thing on the show. This is a big program with a big reach, and yet somehow I was the only one. Yes, I've given up. I've laid down my sword.

You think Billy Jean King was like, People aren't going along with this whole equality for women thing?

You're an awful Twitter. I'm just going to give up. This cause isn't as important.

I don't know what you're talking about. This is a hugely important cause, Witty.

Billy Jean King was fighting on behalf of not having a penis. You're fighting on behalf of being able to say penis. It's not that different.

I would say it's considerably different. The size and significance of the Causes.Depends.

On the person. Baby.

I can't believe you're just giving up. I can't believe you're quitting.

Yeah, I'm quitting. I'm quitting until I lay out a marker. I lay out a challenge to all the other play-by-play broadcasters of America. If one of you, one, says the word penis on television, I will follow suit and I will return to my cause. But until then, I am laying down my sword because I'm not fighting this battle without an army. I need an army. I needed an army a year and a half ago when I thought I ended my career. I'm not doing this again. I'm not doing this again without having some support, without having some help. Can one other person be an adult and use the word, the anatomically which is my argument at the time, can somebody use the anatomically correct term for the male organ in order for me to follow suit? Because I'm not doing this on my own anymore. I issue a challenge to the broadcasting community. If you really want this to happen, can the audience of this program, which, by the way, has not ceased to remind me for 20 months, anytime, anywhere in America is hit in the male organ. If all I did, if I turned off all other news sources and just checked my Twitter replies, the only thing I would be aware of in this world is where in the world someone has been hit in the penis.

That's great. Otherwise, I wouldn't be aware of anything. Why can't the audience bother other people into doing this?

The only person-It's your crusade.

You're the pioneer here. Yeah. If anything, your message is sticking.

It's time for other people to join the crew. Clearly, I'm not a convincing crusader. No, you have an army. Why am I going to keep crusading when I'm not good at it?

Let's name some names. Burkart. Yeah. You're next.

Challenge them individually.

Yeah, Burkart. #penischallenge.

Yeah, Burkart. Challenge them by I got to be honest, male organ sounds dirtier to me than penis.

A hundred %.

Hog is still there, guys.

Yeah, just make sure you guys tag all of these commentators on Twitter. The Chris heading Chris Whittingham #penischallenge.

No, no. Stop tagging me in this. No, this isn't about me anymore. Don't tag me.

I'm done with this. #safestinuschallenge. #wolfwitzer. Tag Big Cat from Barstool.

He's the only one that's done this since.

It was a heck of a penis, though, right?

What? The defender for AC Milan? Yes. I have no idea. What? I have no idea.

What are you doing? Go send the penalty box. Quittingham.

It took it too far.

It's a strange follow.

What's the matter with you? Someone in the room was suggesting, I don't remember who, that when this happens, you should describe the act because you said, We don't have to describe what this person is going through. But there's a lot of people that don't have penises that don't know what they're going through, that it may be helpful to describe the pain they're going through.

Do not think that that information has made its way into the wider public? Poor Mateo Gabia, by the way. I'm watching him writhing around in pain right now on the screen. Horrifying. Poor guy. But it's fairly self-evident, one would imagine.

Did you feel like a coward while you were silent? Because the silence was long. Let's play this. Let's play the entire clip so that he can stew in the shame of his cowardice, and he can hear how much silence there is.

He's assessing his options He tries to get the early cross and forcing Gabia to lunge at it. You know immediately, obviously.

He's holding his male organ with his right and left hand. He's making it obvious to all that they're-Deeply on that. We all felt that one a bit.

I'll say that no play-by-play needed for that, then.

Just disgusting. Despicable. I'm ashamed of you. I've always been proud of you. Your entire career, you've been a pillar that has made us and me proud of everything that you've done. And now look at you at a moment, at your moment, your big moment, when you could have ascended even higher in the industry by being not just professional broadcaster Chris Wittingham, but controversial professional broadcaster Chris Wittingham, you declined You took an exit ramp on pioneering, on penis earing.

I decided that I wasn't... Because you're right, it was a very long time. I knew that if anybody from the audience was watching, that they would absolutely to call me up on it. But I decided in that moment, I'm done with this. I'm no longer going to continue with this pursuit. It was a fruitless endeavor, albeit it created some content. By the way, there's no shortage of me saying humiliating things that don't get repeated on this program every single day. You guys seemingly play the rejoin of me saying Zaddy every single day. There's plenty of content available. Look, I've humiliated myself plenty, and I decided in that moment, I'm done. I'm done. I'm not doing this anymore until someone else joins me.

Unless Joe Buck does it, and then you're good.

Yes, exactly. I would settle for anyone doing any college basketball game on a weekend. There's 4 million One of them available on the ESPN network of platforms. There's any number of broadcasts of any number. I'll take international ones. I've been sent the clip, I guess, of these Indian announcers describing someone getting hit by the post of a soccer match, very descriptively. I'll take anybody else doing this. You're moving, Jay Rickens. And then I will rejoin.

You are passing the buck, and I was hoping you would pass Joe Buck. I was hoping that in your career, you would You just go past them. And instead of leading, you're following. You're quitting instead of leading, and you're telling us you're quitting and will only do this as a follower, not as a leader. That's correct. I'm a coward.

And you know what? I'm okay in this particular instance with my level of cowardness. You know what? How long has it been? It was April of 2022 when I did that. I went home, I laid down on my bed in a cold I was wet. I was horrified at what I had potentially done to my career, and I didn't like how I felt that day. And 22 months later, it happened again. And you know what? I decided I didn't like how that felt. I don't like being alone. I was alone. No one was there to help me, only to mock.

By the way, Woody, do you want your old job back? We have an opening here.

I'm good.

Can you take this thing, please?

I'm tired of looking at it. We are all tired of looking at it.

Toss in the bin, then. No one needs to be looking at that. What's your address? Is there a garbage at the new studio?

What's your address? Let's mail it to him. Let's mail it to him.

What's your address?

What's your phone number? See you later. 1-0-1-1. Say hog more. Say penis challenge.

Say penis challenge. Say penis challenge.

Say penis challenge. Hashtag penis challenge at Bob Costas. Twist his dick.