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Draftkings Network. This is the Dan Leviton Show with the Stugartz Podcast. Jessica, you and Willow have identified correctly a Miami dog problem that I don't believe a lot of people are privy to. Can you share it with the audience, please?

I actually thought you would get a kick out of this, Dan. So there's this dog virus going around, I guess. But I'm not sure how concerned about it, I should be, because we took Willow to the vet last week, and they were like, Yeah, we haven't had any cases of it, but we went to get her booster shots. But they're like, We have been overrun with dogs over the last few weeks since Thanksgiving because so many grand dogs have been given food off the table from grandmas. And she said, We have a with a croquette problem.

Roy, why are you shaking your head? Chris fed a joke to Stugat's.

I didn't say it for a reason. I mean.

It sounds rough. Jeremy was here. No, that was cute. He could have said that. All dog puns are cute.

But she was saying this chihuahua has pancreatitis, no joke, from eating croquettes from its grandmother. The grandmother was giving the grand dog croquettes.

Were you somebody before Miami that partook in croquette? Lucy, do you know what croquette are? Nope. Okay, Jessica, do you want to explain it to her? It's one of the great Cuban delicacies.

It's something that you missed out on before your time. We had this big croquette tasting. Did I say it right that time? Because everyone makes fun of me because I used to say it like a white person because that's who I am. But the first mini-moss that we did after.

I started- Sorry, I was looking for this. White woman.

I pause. I know I was too slow.

To help you there. You saw my old man in this. You saw me adjusting my glasses. I got excited. I'm like, Wait a minute. She waited.

As long as she could.

I know she did. She tried to help me and I was too slow.

They're a fried delicacy. And he made us all these specialty ones. There was a Mac and cheese and a... What else.

Was there? So good. Yeah, there's ask her, Mom. The Mac & Cheese croquette. Oh, my God. Yeah, like cheese, ham. That seems wrong.

Whatever you want, really.

Lucy, who has no idea what you're talking about. It doesn't seem terribly interested either, from what I can tell. I'm looking at pictures. Okay, well, no, optically, it's not much.

She hasn't been to Flanagans yet either, which is something that we also did before her time. We went to Flanagans, and they hooked us up with all you can eat everything. And we sat there and just ate a thousand rock and rib rolls, baby back ribs, and machos. We need to go back and do.

That for Lucy. Great bar food.

I've spent very little time in Miami since I've moved here because I've been traveling so much. This is my first weekend I'll be in Miami since August.

That's crazy. And there's a flood watch till Sunday.

And there's a flood watch. But do you know what I'm doing, Dan? I'm renting a dog this weekend.

Renting a dog?

I'm renting a dog. What? The Miami Day shelter has this awesome program called Paul Venture, where you get to take out a shelter dog for the day and get to just have them out in the real world because I would love to have a dog, but I travel too much, so I can't get one. And I saw this on TikTok, and I'm so excited. So tomorrow I get to pick up my dog for the day.

How about Lysia?

I'm really sad to bring it back, but I'm hoping that other people sign up to do this on the weekdays when I'm working and I can't rent a dog so that all the dogs get to go out and have fun in Miami.

It seems cruel, renting a dog. It does. No. Thank you, Roy. No.

The alternative is it sits in a shelter cage all day.

No, I understand that. But you're giving the dog for 24 hours a taste of what it's like to not sit in that thing, and then you're putting it right back in.

Exactly. How does the dog feel about this?

Hold up. So the dog gets to go out, have fun, and wears adopt me collars and a little vests. So people will come up and pet the dog, like you're supposed to be in a public space so that people can come see the dog. I'll take pictures and post it on my social media. I'm going to help this dog get adopted faster. And I would rather- By renting it. Yeah, by renting it for the day. And if I have a good time, I'll rent it another time.

And Lucy's famous. She's number four on Big Game... 24. Sorry. Well, moving up. It's hopefully four by the end of the segment.

Better to have love than I've.

Ever loved at all.

Exactly. So post a picture of the dog, someone will come and.

Adopt it. I want to get behind everything that's happening here. I don't want to... I don't know. What?

I mean, it's not furniture. It's not rent-to-center. It's a dog. I mean, it has feelings. You don't take a dog. In Stuart's defense, this dog is going to get excited and think, Is this my new life? This is amazing.

Oh, do.

I get.

To go off-roading? Is this my new mom? I mean...

Oh, wait a minute. So now you've heard me say before that the worst thing in the world isn't being poor, or if you worry a lot about finances. It's being rich. It's being poor, then rich, then poor.

Imagine being rich.

For a day.

It's going to be out for five hours.

I'm going to give you money.

For five hours. You know what? I don't like this.

I'm doing a good thing.

Wrench some cash. I am helping this dog. This dog has to deal with multiple humans. It's either going to.

Sit there all day or it's going to go and have a really fun day with me.

False hope. By the way, what Lucy is doing?

White.

Woman. A white.

White-we've got a problem around here. -what? -because I don't feel- -To America's. -i don't feel like- Two Americas.

I don't feel like- Can you.

Rep my kids? I don't feel like Roy and JuJu and Ameen feel about this dog stuff the way that we do. I wonder what's happening there. Any ideas? I hate when you're on the elevator.

And somebody with a dog comes on the elevator and now.

The dog is licking your $200 shoes.

Yeah, that sucks.

And.

It's a rental, I mean, imagine.

What are we going to do about this? Because I want to get behind this cause. You could do good work here, not just for the dog whose heart you're going to break. That dog is going to have to be- I'm going to.

Find him slash her a home.

You're coming around here. Number 24, a big.

Game boomer's list of college football personalities.

So I just shouldn't help people because eventually the help expires. I shouldn't get like, Oh, okay, I'm not going to donate money to a charity because they'll spend it, and then they won't have it anymore. This is bad. I am helping this dog, and I'm excited, and you guys are not going to take this.

Away from me. You want to help a dog, then adopt a dog. I can adopt a.

Dog because what's worse is I adopt a dog, and then I'm gone every single weekend, and I can't take care of it.

Because of you.

Because of you. Yes, but this way, you're also going to be gone every single weekend and not with this dog. You're doing the same thing. But it's not.

My responsibility. So I'm going to take this dog out. I'm going to give it a good day. I'm going to let all the people pet it. Someone will fall in love with it. Maybe a listener of the show will follow me on Instagram, see this dog and say, I think that's my dog. And then this dog will get adopted, and I will miss it. But I will be so happy that it has a good home now, and I know I did my part to help.

You are welcome. That is a charitable effort that you are doing again. But one dog will have to be a martyr if indeed it gets the hope. Oh, this is clearly her doing good work so that I may be with someone one day.

Who is.

In a cage and then that person never shows up and you will not have help. And my one rescuing savior will have failed. And I had that one magical day with her, but now I still live in a cage. And back when I just lived in the cage, I never dreamt of a magical savior. I knew I was going to die amid my own feces.

How about you call the shelter now, Dan, and tell them I canceled my reservation because you would rather the dog stay in the.

Shelter the whole time. No.

Long term, it's a better decision for you. I feel like.

Roy wants in on this. Yeah, I got a scenario in this situation. Let's say I rent this dog for Claire's birthday party. That's not what I'm doing it for. No, I'm just saying. This is my scenario. Let my boy cook. I do this. Then after the party, I have to return this dog. Now I'm disappointing Claire, who thinks I got her a new dog and I got to disappoint this dog, bring this back to the shelter. I don't have a kid.

Who.

Wins? I don't have a child. I'm not telling you this is my child.

You don't read the dog. You just didn't rent the dog.

How about at that.

Same.

Birthday party, the dog takes a chunk out of one of the kids.

Now we have a real problem. Now you can't bring the dog.

The dog just bits someone.

Do you sue the company or do you sue loose?

Okay, I won't bring the dog to a birthday party tomorrow. I won't do that. Here's an idea.

Why don't we just do nothing, ever? Yes.

So why.

Are you renting the dog, though? Let's rent a dog. Let's show.

Should rent a dog.

I would love to have a dog of my own. I would love... I got all my dogs from shelters, but I travel too much for this job that it would be very unfair for me to get a dog. That would be really hurtful to.

The dog. She has no family nearby. I have.

No family nearby. So this is how I get to have a dog, do something good.

This is how she wins. Have your cake, you need.

It, too. Exactly. Because I would love to get a dog.

Of my own. All right, Lucy. It. Sold. We can do it. Thank you. Metallark, you will fly with the dog wherever it is you go.

Just like Herb Street. But your seat has to be.

Next to a meme on the airplane. You have a deal, deal on air deal. You now own a dog. Don't live.

A.

Tard. How do people always go missing.

In the mountains? Don't go to the mountains.

By the way, I don't want to.

Bring racism.

This is.

The most white people thing ever.

Going missing in the middle of the mountains. It's the strangest thing. You go by yourself. You don't take a radio.

You don't take a phone.

You're missing for four days, and they find you like 10 years later covered in snow. It's like, don't go by yourself. If you're going to go on a trail, don't go by yourself. Stugatz. Put it on the pole. Is it the whitest person thing ever? I believe is what you called it going into the woods by yourself. Is going into the woods by yourself? I can't disagree with that, man. So black people don't camp? Yeah, black people don't hike. They don't camp. They don't go out into the woods. This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugats. We bring in now Adnan Vork and David Samson. David Samson, I just saw him. If you noticed his face just as we were starting, it seems like he's being bombarded by life. It seems like hard things are happening behind the scenes. But he is going to put on a professional face, and he is going to rise up right now, and he is going to sell the hell out of nothing personal by brawling with Adnan Vork about whatever movie from 1978 they disagree about. I've got Lucy and Jessica not interested at all in what's happening here.

I'm trying to entertain Charlotte as well. You have to understand, these movies are old, and they are now doing top five Golden Globes award winners all time in musicals, film, and comedy. So they're basically doing the best five forms of entertainment ever is what you guys are doing. That's the category?

That is the category because the Golden Globe nominations were just released this week. It is award season, which is my favorite time of year. We wanted to give the people the five movies they have to watch.

Before you do that, award season. Is David Samson the only one still clinging to award season around here? Adnan Vork also loves award season. Roy?

I like award season.

Yeah, I like award season. I'm an.

Award-season person. I hate it. Okay, well, we're split in the room. It doesn't seem like many of us. It seems it's right in half in the room. Not me, I hate it.

One of the reasons why I'm a fan of it is because I'm a voter, because I'm one of the members of the Critics Choice Awards. I just put in my nominations. I had to put in an entire ballot after actually. Critics Choice Award nominations were just released. I'm one of 600 voters that were a part of that voting process. When you're a critic and when you're in the.

Society, it's different. I'm a voter, too. I send them in. They just don't count my votes.

Charlotte Wilde or odd vote. Tuesday to Fridays.

Hey, well done.

Samson, any Oli or you're just starting with number five?

I'd like to start with number five because I've asked Metalyrk to find me a way to become a voter. I'd like to go to the awards. I'd like to do shows from the awards, and we're too busy trying to figure out how to get to Vegas. So it's not going to happen, and that's fine. I understand we can only do one thing at a time at MetalArk, contrary to what we're all trying to do. So maybe next year.

Number five. And I'm just learning that anyone's trying to get to Vegas because I'm not getting to Vegas for the Super Bowl. So this is news to me. I don't like the Super Bowl. I don't like the Who doesn't like the Super Bowl? Radio Row. You're going to have to do it a hell of a lot more creatively than that if you want me to go to the Super Bowl. That epic commercefest. Number five.

Shakespeare in Love. Forget the fact that Harvey Weinstein has been canceled. It is a brilliantly written movie, directed movie. I really.

Don't want to forget that. I want to remember that.

It's an important part. I want to remember the fact that he should burn in hell, and I'm all for that. But I don't want people to forget the art of that movie and the way they took a story and the way they had Fines and Gwenneth and Affleck and Jeffrey Rush and the crispness of that movie. It is something that I struggle with to continue to watch because I want to separate it. I would encourage people to watch the movie, but then remember what it is to understand who the devil is.

I also struggle. I struggle the fact this is somehow on the top five list. It's a completely forgettable bit of piffle. This movie is notable for the fact it's one of the most egregious Oscar wins ever. The fact it won best picture of a Saving Private Ryan and Weinstein successfully convinced Oscar voters that Saving Private Ryan has a great opening 25 minutes. After that, it's nothing special, a fairly generic World War II movie, and somehow he convinced them to give this movie best picture. It's ridiculous. Judy Denshi is in the eight minutes award at an Academy Award. It's got the other fines, not the good fines, not Ray Feins, but Joseph fines. David, this is a terrible pig.

The way this list ends is with tears and a journey.

A completely forgettable piece of piffle. Is that what you called it? That's correct, and that's accurate. I don't believe you, David. I believe you say that, and it's for optics. But I don't believe you when you say you struggle watching Shakespeare in love when you remember that Harvey Weinstein made it. I don't believe like you're- There's no struggle. You're like, The television is off. And now it's totally off, and I don't want to go there. But the movie is so good that I will reach over all my moralities and I will watch it.

He's like, The Nassah is being held back on the band.

You're impugning my character, Dan, and there's no reason to do that. If I'm telling you I struggle, I struggle with that. You're more than happy to understand everyone else's. I do. When I listen to a Michael Jackson song, I think the same thing. Should I be listening or not? Number four-.

But then you listen. I'm not. But you can- Tilly G and.

He listens to it. I question whether he even thinks that at all.

I got to be honest. You know what? I'm willing.

To concede- Just.

Another part of him. -i'm willing to concede that he thinks it every time. If he is willing to concede that he ignores it every time and continues doing what he.

Intended to do. This segment is bad.

I will absolutely concede that I always win my internal battle.

Number.

Four. Dangerous conversation.

Bandshees of Inna Sharon. Holy shit.

Holy shit. Holy shit, indeed.

Whatever Stan Van Gandhi says.

Are you about to say that either A, you've never seen it, or B, you did see it and didn't like it?

No, that's what Stan Van Gundy said. He said it was terrible and he watched it on an airplane. I went to Ireland just to see where they filmed.

Banshees, David. When did he say that, Jess?

He said it on the show.

I would hate to go against Stan. However, in this case, I will take his basketball acumen over his movie, Taste. This is a movie that I thought Colin Farrell and Brendan Gleason and the Gleason family is so talented, his son from About Time and a bunch of other things. This movie has a buddy story that is greater than any buddy story of any movie ever. And Adnan, we could do a top five buddy movies.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Listen, David, I love The Banks Is In a Winner. This is a great movie. Hold on. I'm with you.

Go ahead, Dan. Adnan, please, just one second. Buddy movies.

One second. Tango and Cash.

This is what I want to do. I want to add Rocket Fuel to this segment. I'm going to play what Stan Van Gundy had to say about this to both of you, and then I then want you to top what Stan Van Gundy has to say. Vanchies of Inisheeron. I'm like, All right, not usually what I would pick.

I watch that movie on a.

Plane.

Ride. I don't get it.

I had to text both of them and say, You got to tell me what it is you like about this movie. It was depressing. It's getting great for you. It was depressing. It was terrible.

I mean- No, that's a terrible movie.

I have seen it a long time, and it's one of those I stuck with it. I wanted to quit.

I'm like, man, is.

Not- We're into the movie, and I'm like, Well, these two guys, they're really into movies and they really analyze these things. It must get better at the end. No, it kept getting worse. It was absolutely a horrible movie.

That's an awful take by Stan Van Gandhi. I'm with team Samson on this. Listen, I respect his basketball acumen, but it's an incredible script by Martin McDutter. Acerbic, funny, biting satire. As he said, great performances. Jenny the donkey is amazing. I'm on team Samson on The Banshees.

Of the Year. Number three.

Mulan Rouge. Mulan Rouge is at the top of many of my lists with U. N. Mcgregor and Nicole Kidman. Every brilliant song by Baza Lerman, it will blow your mind. It will take all of your senses to a place where they can only go with illicit drugs and then even pass that. John La Guiziama.

That's.

A tough one, yeah. That's a fun one. Playing Toulousain Letrec, the great artist. The whole movie, I've watched that so many, so many times, and it's on Broadway. If you want to go see it on Broadway, it's quite great there, too.

Samson's right. The Broadway show is terrific. It's one of my wife's favorite movies. Batas Lerman, amazing, particularly the first half. Do the Can-Can-Can. I love Jims. He's been a great movie.

Number two.

Lost in translation. There is never a bigger love affair with the city of Tokyo or what a person goes through when they're trying to decide what to do in their life. I completely can't relate to Bill Murray and what he was going through, how alone you can feel and the desire for connection and then finding that connection in a stranger and wondering whether it's real. It leads to the number one discussion about cheating is emotional cheating versus physical cheating, which is worse, which is more hurtful? Who cares?

Oh, God damn. The answer is physical, by the way. David, this is a completely self-absorbed movie about navel gazing. I know this is one of your favorites, so this cuts deep, but this is not a movie that should be number two on the greatest Golden Globe. Best picture winners? Come on, man.

Number one.

Okay, Almost Famous. I am dying for Adnan to say one thing bad about Almost Famous. Cameron Crowe, number one soundtrack about his life, starting off as a journalist at Rolling Stone. When you look at the performance by Jason Lee, by Billy Crudup, when you look at Kate Hudson, when you look at Patrick Fuget, that movie has everything, including McDormand. And what interests me most about Almost Famous is getting inside the mind of Cameron Crowe and how he got to be the writer he is and all the great movies he's and where it all started. It's called Almost Famous.

I'd call Almost Famous, Almost Good. I think it's one of the more overrated movies in the last 30 years. Honestly, that's one of these movies I do not get it. Middle-aged white guys wish they were in rock and roll bands, somehow identify to the Cameron Crowes movie. I love Philip Seymour Hoffman. I'll give you him for Lester Bangs. But that movie I saw it once, and I was like Stan Bang, Gunny the band she's been to Sharon. I'm still to this day, perplexed by people rave about Almost Famous.

My little sister is named Kate, after Kate Hudson from Almost Famous. We love that movie.

How old is she? Little sister. This is the problem I have on my hands. Per usual, Samson has hogged most of the segment, so we don't have much time left. I have been wanting on Cinefile to slow you down generally, but now I want to speed you up. Give me everything you've got on your top five movies, and everyone's going to get out of the way. Just everyone, clear out. This is a solo act, admin. All of the information you've got on your top five, a two full minutes without any interruption from anybody here. Go.

Number five, Borat's subsequent movie film. Not as strong as the original, but still awfully hilarious. That's lies, Borat, number five. Number four, The Hangover. One of the best copies of the last 25 years. It did spawn two sequels were not nearly as funny, but Bradley Cooper, who knew one day he'd be starring in Maestro, is as a scene-stealing Zach Alfinakis. Number three, Walk the Line. Joachim Phoenix and Reece Witherspoon make sweet music together in this biopic of Johnny Cash. Amazing work by Reece's June. They've also both won Golden Gloves for actor and actress. It's a lovely film. I was just in Nashville for the winter meetings and went to the Johnny Cash Museum to pay homage. It's beautiful. Number two, as good as it gets, Jack Nicholson and Helen Hunt. How do you write women so well? I think of a man, and then I think of a reason and accountability. Nicholson, unbelievable playing this OCD character. He won the Academy Award. Helen Hunt, wonderful chemistry together. There's a couple of wonderfully romantic moments. Samson is a big romantic, so I know deep in his love, he loves as good as it gets. It's a wonderful movie from James L.

Brooks. Number one, I'm not drinking anymore, Lowe. Sideways is number one. Paul G. E. 'N' body and Alexander Payne, one of the best films of the last 20 years, hysterical and heartbreaking. I know I can see the back row couldn't care less. You should go watch the movie, Alexander Payne, and Giamati, and Thomas Hayden Church.

I love it so much. I like that movie too, but I mean, you are offended by both of these lists.

There's some curious omissions and curious inclusions on both lists. That's all I'll say.

That's all.

You'll say? Yeah, we're done. Boy, that's really helpful.

What you'll.

Say is nothing. In his defense, he gave you nothing. There are movies on the list. Yes, they named movies. All he'll say is that he doesn't have very strong opinions about anything.

I have strong opinions on some of the omissions, and I have strong opinions on some of the inclusions.

None of.

Which I will give you guys. I mean, if he is almost famous, is overrated. Give me that one.

I agree, but I also think Sideways is overrated.

I agree. I think the Holdovers is far and away, Alexander Payne's best movie.

I like wine, so I don't want to watch Sideways. Let me get out of here, man.

It's going to be nominated, Holdovers. Best actor, best director, best screenplay, and best picture.

Nothing personal is the name of Samson's podcast. Cynophile, the name of Adnan Virx. Thank you, gentlemen. You bored the young people to tears. Thank you.

That was lost in translation, I guess.

All right, thanks, guys.

No.

Romancing the stone?

Now.

You can't do it. Romantic the stone.

Now you have an opinion? When the.

Segment's over?

Boy, Dan, you really have a crew there.

It's a perfect movie. It's a movie for everybody. No one goes to see it.

The mics go off and the opinions come out.

Nobody goes to romantic the stone. That wasn't for me. No one says that.

Really? See you later.

Going.

Wild there. Everyone walked out happy.

You're right. No, you're right. Limited fake nemesis, drug lord from romanticthe stone makes an appearance.

John Wildear. How about the sequel, The Jewel of the Nile?

That was great.

Yeah. Fake Indiana.

Jones over here. Hey, man. Michael Douglas was not trying to be Indiana Jones.

Don.

Lebertard. Ravens could double up the Colts, and they are good against every team except the Steelers.

That's a 14-point win there for the Ravens. Yeah. Double up.

Two touchdowns. Stugats. I think double up is a score. Like if the Colts have 10 and you double them up, you score 20. I don't think double up- That's how you do it. I do it differently. Okay, but I don't think that double them up, like you explained it to me as if I was supposed to- You have your way, I have my way. I understand, but that's not technically doubling up. I think you used the phrase wrong or something happened. Double-up plus four. Exactly. Okay, that's what he meant, of course.

Too.

Touchdown. You never cease to amaze me. He's amazing. He really is. He's breathtaking in his stupidity. This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugats. I'm having some issues here with everything that happened in that last segment. At one point. The only point that I saw anyone really stirred in the other room is when Charlotte threw her arms up in the air, because as good as it gets with Jack Nicholson was something that made her celebrate a triumph.

Let me tell you, it was a great rise and fall of Charlotte Wilder because she heard as good as it gets, she starts celebrating. And then Adnan read the quote, and then she's like, No, not.

That boring.

I was like, Oh, no. I was thinking of somethings got to give. Wait, which is the one with Diane Keaton and Jack Nicholson? Something's got to give. That's something's got to give. I like that movie. It's a good movie. That one, as good as it gets, I don't remember.

They're both hexic.

Isn't that the one where Diane.

Keaton and- Yeah, it's in Nancy Myers. It's like the Nancy Myers kitchen. Actually, fun fact, when I saw that, I think I was in seventh grade, made my mom go out and buy me a turtle neck and a button down so that I could wear the button down over the turtle neck like Diane Keaton does in something... I just got.

To get. Jack Nicholson exists living off the shine of a bunch of movies he made in the '70s. One Food for the Foamful over the Cuckoo, that's a great movie. Chinatown, great movie.

The Shining.

The Shining, right? Then he starts making all these other movies. Anger management and something's got to get a bucket list. These are all crap movies. They're the.

Part of- They just skipped the '80s on that one. Anger Management.

Bad movie. Departed. Bad movie.

Oh.

The depated? The depated? Bad movie. You're going to say that with me right in this room? Yes, yes.

You're saying a Scorsese movie is bad? I don't think you can call it that. It was overrated, then. Okay, you could say overrated.

Is he an Irishman?

I smell.

Like Irishman. I saw Killers of the flower Moon on Saturday night. How was it? Really good. Insanely long.

See, this is what I believe about Scorsese. Needs an editor. He has one of.

The greatest editors of all time.

I don't know if he would.

Have edited anything out of this film. Really? It was really good.

This wasn't like The Irishman, where there's just a bunch of scenes.

The Irishman, I was like, Wow, this.

Is a lot. But I think it means talking about an editor that's willing to tell Scorsese what they need to tell Scorsese. He's 81 years old. He's like, bleep all of you. I'm going to make my movies how I want.

Congratulations. I waited till it came out on Apple so I could rent it and watch it at home because I knew that at some point in the three and a half hours, I'd probably need to use the restroom or make myself a drink. I was glad I did that because it was completely... It was a great movie. I didn't want to miss anything from it. I watched it in the comfort of my couch instead of going to the theater and being prisoner to my seat for a while. I didn't mind that it was that long. There's a scene in the middle. It's like watching three and a half.

Episodes of a TV show.

There's a scene in the middle of that movie. This is not a spoiler alert, where they're just sitting in the house and they're listening to the weather outside. Go to the bathroom then. Let me just say this- They're in there for three minutes. We just.

Should sit here. Let me just say it.

Right now. That was only 45 minutes in, though.

Oppenheimer, thank you. Thank you, Oppenheimer, for convincing me to never go back to movie.

Theater again. Oh, no.

Great movie. Great movie. But I didn't need to see it on 70 millimeter I-max, 16-story high screen for one scene for an exposure. The whole movie happens in conference rooms and classrooms. And silent. I don't need that. Every movie that comes out from now on, wait until it comes out on streaming. I'm pausing. I've got.

Captions on. Wait a minute. You're saying- Thank you. -that Oppenheimer has ended your experience with movie theaters. You are done. You're announcing right now to America and beyond. You're saying, Amino Hassan, I'm broken. That's it. Oppenheimer is the stop. I no longer am going to movie theater.

Because Oppenheimer was built as this thing you had to not only see in the theater, you had to see it in a specific theater. Well, I can get that wherever. No, they're like 13 all over the country. You got to just be living luckily near one of them. I was. I went and I was like, Okay, here we go. I took my dad. This is going to be incredible. We're going to be blown away by these visuals. I'm like, This is just a movie, dog. This isn't nothing that needed a huge screen.

I will say, I know for a fact, Killers of the flower moon would have been better in theaters. Why? It was visually stunning. It's an epic. The scenes are long and slow, and they play out very slow. You know these characters very well by the end of the film.

You're describing a good movie. You're not giving me a reason to see it in a theater.

It's a good movie.

Characters?

The popcorn. I just said it was beautifully shot. There's these long scenes of Oklahoma, and there's the scene where, Chris, you know what I'm talking about with the fire and the people. I wish I had seen that on a big screen, but for my own comfort level, I'm glad that I waited. This was very good.

You watched it on a screener.

Didn't you, Chris?

No, I.

Watched it. I went.

To the theater.

Oh.

Wow. How about that? And the popcorn. You can't get that. But you talk about these things being epic. And I know Charlotte is obsessed with something like Gilded Ages. We talk a lot around here about, I was saying that Scorsese should have just made that four parts. Why don't you just make it four parts? But Scorsese is aHe's an art maker. He needs an editor. He's an art maker who needs an editor. He's been.

Working with that editor for about 50 years.

I think he's earned a lot of work. I have a bunch of yes.

People around him.

Exactly, Roy. We're not talking about... We're talking about people who make hard decisions like, You don't need this scene.

The movie is almost four hours long.

There's nothing I would have cut out. Okay, humble brag. I read the book not that long ago that is based off of... I thought that the movie was very true to how the book was paced. It was paced like a book, but I was watching it, and it was good. It's a really just devastating story. I don't know what you would cut out of that movie. All of it felt important to.

The story. How long is Oppenheimer? Because the best of the directors, the freedom they're going to be granted here when you have multiple... Now, it's not just studios competing for movies. It's now streaming services who will let Scorsese and Roland and Ridgeley Scott, and they will make as grand a movie as they can. But Gilded Age is the same epic. Is it not? In its look and what it does with its wardrobe choices? It's spending big?

Yeah, it's spending big. It's a big production. Also, let's put some respect on Scorsese's editor's name, Thelma Schoonmaker, which I probably just did not respect by saying it eventually wrong. Yes, it did sound like respect. I'm trying to say it.

Too much of a respect. We can't think.

It was that.

-thelma, -S-H-S-H.

-we don't.

Have to. -s-h.

-don't do that. -okay. -too much respect. The Gilded Age. Big production, huge budget, yes, but theatrical. All these New York theater actors, and Jess and I have been talking about this because we're both obsessed and it's campy. It's like a very heightened version.

It's a soap, but it's a.

Prestige soap. Yeah, and it's beautiful. I mean, it's downtown Abbey, but America.

America, yeah.

How long? How many episodes?

There's only nine episodes in this season. Stop it. Yes, there's two more left. Are you kidding me? The episode on Sunday Night had a twist in it that I did not see coming at all. At all? At all. And then I listened to the accompanying podcast, which one of my favorite podcast hosts who hosts The Bowery Boys Podcast, which is a show that I started listening to when I moved to New York City when I was like 22, and it made me fall in love with New York. He hosts the HBO Watch-A-Long podcast. Does he have a name? You're just saying it. Yes, Tom Myers. I forget the woman's name. She's from Turner Classic Movies. Alicia? Alicia. Malone, I think that's her name. They host this Watch-A-Long podcast, and they'll tell you, Okay, this is based off of the actual Vanderbilt family, and this is where their mansion was, and this is what happened to them. And this is what Mrs. Astor did in real life. And they put it in context. And it's so interesting because the show is ridiculous and all this ridiculous stuff is happening. But they'll be like, Hey, this part actually happened in.

Real life. Yeah. They're like, So we're going to go to the opening of the Brooklyn Bridge. And there are all these fireworks. And they're like, Did you know it was actually built by a woman? And I'm sitting there watching this being like, Emily Robling? Did she actually do it? I'm trying to Google, No, no, you just listen to that podcast the next day and they're like, It's true.

A woman-built bridge.

Yeah. And it's a delightful joy ride. And also, they're just like, There are a lot of plots. We got a.

Lot of- There's a lot of characters. -a lot of characters. It's like Down in Abbey. And also, Sir Julian Fellows, he made both shows. Down in Abbey is super dramatic, English. They live in this castle, and it's after the turn of the century, and they have this staff, and it's about the upstairs and the downstairs and all this stuff. And everyone that I think didn't watch was like, Oh, this is just some dumb woman shit. But no, Down Abbey, they killed off characters like Game of Thrones. They would take your heart and rip it out and step on it and then take a dump on it.

I have never been more devastated by something that happened in a TV show than something that happens in downtown Abbey. Season three.

There are no Dragons, though, right?

More than The Red Wedding?

Yeah, The Red Wedding, actually, is what made me stop watching Game of Thrones. I was like, screw this. I hate this. All my characters are getting killed. I'm out.

But no Dragons? Nowhere are Dragons to be found?

No, but the Titanic is involved.

I want to ask all of you this because I'm not sure- Dragon of the Sea. I like how it is. I do like how Charlotte and Jess are talking about consuming some obsessions that you then want more information from a community that cares about it the way you do to walk you through and re-enjoy the episode you just saw. So you're getting bonus content. I don't know when this started in podcasting. I don't know where the origination of it is, but the podcast industry is filled with very popular podcasts that support very popular shows- That recap shows. Well, it's not just recapping it, though. It is a community of people who care about something the way that you do. There's a real lane for business here in bonus content. I'm wondering how much of that you guys are doing because I suspect that our crew of Billy's and Mike's and Chris's and Roy's and Stugaz's, that they're not doing any of that. I don't believe that they are. Mike might seek out some extra stuff because he listens to so many podcasts.

I don't need bonus material. I watched the episode. I move on. I wait till.

Next week's episode. I need bonus material. And HBO, what they've done is really smart by sanctioning these podcasts because other people do them anyways. And if you watched season one of Westworld or any of the Game of Thrones- Winning time had one. Yeah, a lot of them have these... Well, I was going to say before the podcasts, you just go on the Westworld subreddit, and people would have their theories for what was going to happen. And then I'd listen to Mallory Rubin and Jason Conception do their breakdown of Game of Thrones. And then HBO was like, All right, we're just going to sanction our own version of this because people are going on Reddit or on these different forums to gossip and talk about what they think is going to happen or break down what's going to happen. We might as well be.

Involved in it. Out of touch, Dan Levitard. I don't know. Hey, we host one of those things. It's called Rule of Two. Every time we have new Star Wars that comes out, Wars shows or Star Wars movies or whatever, I'm breaking down all the theories, me and Anthony Mayes, right on the mystery crate feed. That's Rule of Two, get it wherever you get podcasts. Only when we're doing- All of the free.

-only when we're doing Star Wars stuff. Not what I asked. It's all over the free. Do you guys.

Get obsessed with stuff, though? If I watch a TV show that- Football. Football. Okay. I just can't stop thinking about it. I'll be sitting here thinking about Oscar Van Ryn from The Gilded Age. I'm like, Then... I mean, huge twists, not giving anything away. But so I'm like, I want to listen to a podcast of other people who are obsessed with this, and it keeps me company.

To answer your question, I want to say the first show that did this was Walking Dead. They'd have Talking Dead afterward.

Oh, Breaking Bad, too, would have a bunch of.

Those types of fan things. Amc was really big on it.

-those types of fan things. It is a real interesting stream to go and just gather where people are gathered and give them more of the thing they already love. If you're fishing for business in the podcast industry, it's a good space.

Someone should start a Reddit for our show.

Oh, Christ.