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This is the down labor part. Sure, we've still got Sparkasse. Two stories in front of me, I believe, are worthy of sports discussion, but I'm afraid of tossing one of them to the gods because, a, I don't think he's informed on it. B, if he were informed on it, I don't think that he would want into this conversation. Are you seeing or have you seen what is happening with the Pittsburgh Steelers as it regards how they are honoring people?

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I appreciate your confidence. No, I have not. OK, I will move on. It wouldn't have helped us even if you had. I don't think because it's a tricky it is a tricky situation for all involved, because basically he went rogue on who he was going to honor on his helmet after the Steelers decided, the captain said they were surprised by this. They decided to, you know, honor a victim of racial injustice, Antoine Rose, and he is a former Army Ranger, says, no, I'm going to honor a soldier who went in in heroic fashion and saved people, fellow soldiers from a burning car, 72 percent of his body was burned and then he died.

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Three weeks later, somebody go ahead and tell him that he can't honor who he wants to honor.

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I would love to talk to this dude because he's the one who was standing outside when they were in the locker room during the anthem. And that is hard to do what it is that he is doing. And you can't say anything to him if you are the league. But that league. Has threatened to fine Peyton Manning for a uniform violation when he was trying to honor Johnny Unitas because there's a reason they're uniforms, they're supposed to be uniform, and you can't have Peyton Manning setting a precedent, even if it's a charming one like the late Johnny Unitas, because then you're setting the precedent for everyone to do whatever they want.

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But who's going to say something to former Army Ranger Alejandro Villanueva for breaking ranks from his team? And furthermore, breaking it was a pre-approved message because the leagues are only allowing pre-approved messages and he just went rogue. I can't believe in Tomlins locker room. This should tell you something. You think the footballs, the military, you think Tomlins, the military, not Alejandro Villanueva's, the military like that football can have its army rigidities, but this guy is going to do what he wants with his principles and go ahead and say something to him.

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Because they can't. Nobody can. What are you going to say to somebody who has served is a former Army Ranger who has decided to honor even, but it breaks uniform. It is technically a violation. Like if you want to be a stickler about these things, maybe it's a teammate. If you're going to say something to him, just say, hey, I respect the fact that you're trying to honor this person. But that's not what this is all about.

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Perhaps I don't know that you can say anything to him.

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I really don't think that one's difficult. I prefer the lower hanging fruit of what Tyler Ifrit did.

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OK, well, that's not where I was going to go either. But that's who got to know this story. This one. This one's also hard. I don't want to do this almost.

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Tyler Ifirst still playing in the NFL. Oh, yeah. He's famously in Jacksonville now. And just run a quick Twitter search.

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The other thing that is much easier and much more insta ghazi's wheelhouse and in honor of game two, Heat and Celtics, Sarah, Spain. The commish, yeah. Is wondering because the nuggets and heat of advance and because the Bucs and Clippers haven't. Do we put an asterisk on this season, do we look at that face on Chris Coady? Chris Cody right now is booing a quality look at him. He does not like the idea that Sarah Spain has arrived and has put an asterisk on the Miami Heat season.

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That's because his team is seven seven wins away from an NBA championship. I mean, that's why Chris is objecting to it.

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This is this is a real take. Yes, I respect. And the reason for it is because the Clippers and Bucs were eliminated.

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The reason for it is the following. OK, Sarah, Spain is and she's asking the question. I don't think she's getting out there and saying that it is indeed an asterisk season.

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When you ask the question, you are dipping your toe in the water. She is dipping her toe in these particular said to be appropriate. This pool is filled with acid. Sara, Spain, you are dipping your toe in and this is unacceptable. So she has said that what would have to happen, she was saying pre pandemic or preseason starting amid the pandemic. She was asking the question, what needs to happen going forward in terms of results for you to be willing to put an asterisk on the season?

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And now some of those things have happened. A one seed is gone that we weren't expecting necessarily the bucks to be eliminated in the second round. The Clippers are gone in the second round. And so she is asking, do you put an asterisk on this season?

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No, no, not at all. What a dumb reason to because the Bucs got eliminated. So if the Bucs beat the heat, as if many people were predicting because there are a historic team with a two time reigning MVP, then we don't put an asterisk next to it. So we're taking credit away from the Miami Heat for winning a playoff matchup that if you watch basketball, many people might have picked, hey, this is a trouble spot at a lower seed man.

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Get out of here with that. People just don't want to give your kitchen is bleeding arms credit. They don't want to give Jimmy Buckets his credit. It's just a refusal to adapt and learn. It's despicable from Sarah and I expect better from her abilities making sour faces.

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Here he is shaking his head, sadly. What's the matter, Billy?

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Why do you guys care so much about what Sarah Spain or people that say there's going to be an actress like who cares? Don't have real problems to worry about that whether Sarah Spade's thinks this is a legitimate bitch right away. If the heat weren't in contention and LeBron won the title one hundred percent, everyone on the show would be like he won. But it was in a bubble.

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Asterix that one doesn't count out how this is an asterisk season, right?

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Like every team, except the one that is going to say this one is not the same.

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I'm not here for you calling out my own hypocrisies. Let me just do my thing. The heater in the X. Yeah.

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And this is the most important thing in my life. I don't have anything else to do, really. I care so much about an asterisk. How do you put an asterisk on any of my things? I will rain down fury and a hell of Bonzi for putting an asterisk on anything related to victory and feel good for Miami.

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Yeah, if you could stop giving the game away like we're not outraged about anything. Did you not notice that I couldn't engage students on the difficult topic, so I just went to the easy sports radio one asterisk.

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OK, it's still got wheelhouse. I guess we can't do that anymore. Back to Tyler effort. I mean, I gave you something on Panya.

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I did. Who, Alejandro, if he ever saw oh, God, the guy from the Steelers, and he just made him the Braves closer from the 90s, from the late 80s, and expected me to know what he was talking about, all those Latin guys look alike as we know.

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Hold that thought. Let's sell some. That is a setup guy.

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Philly, do you see now why I went to Astros talk?

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Because I'm talking to you over here, Willie Moe, that is, after he Googled and brought himself up to speed on this story. That was effort. You can catch her daily, nightly on ESPN Radio also, that's what she said is the name of the podcast that is part of the Libertarian Friends Network. Mike Ryan has a sour face underneath his terrible Minshew mustache. Go ahead. Let Sarah spin. Let's not even get to the pleasantries. Let Sarah Spain have it.

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Well, shame on Sarah Spain for trying to take credit away from Jimmy Butler. I know what's going on here. Don't pretend like I don't see it. You all see it to. She's hurt by Jimmy Butler because he left to greener pastures and now he's in the Eastern Conference finals for the first time because he's finally with a real organization for the first time. You're just jealous, Sarah. That's what it is.

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Well, yeah, I'm 100 percent jealous because my team is trash and there should be relegation in the NBA for teams like the Bulls. But that was three teams ago that Jimmy Butler was on. He's been in three different places. I just want to quickly explain my point, which it was really dumb of me to assume it would actually make any sense on Twitter or that anyone would actually read what I wrote and respond to it in a meaningful and nuanced, which I was just thinking to myself that months ago when they were debating whether to do the NBA bubble and finish the season as they have, there was a lot of questions about whether it would be a legitimate competition, any meaningful completion to the season.

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On my radio show, on around the horn, all sorts of people said what would need to happen in the bubble for you to think that they shouldn't do it? Is it a player not being able to play because of coronavirus? Is it a top team not advancing? And a lot of people said if the best teams like the Bucs or the Clippers or the Lakers aren't in it, it will feel like it's not the same. So looking at what happened and not taking anything away from the heat, who were very clearly a good matchup for the Bucs and showed so in the regular season or anything away from the Nuggets who are playing amazingly and clearly use that hiatus like almost like a second off season.

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I just asked the question like Dan likes to do sometimes, but I turned into like, well, somehow on Twitter based on the fact that, you know, the NBA usually has the most predictable playoff based on regular season success. This has been very unpredictable for the Nuggets to win six elimination games in one postseason. They'd be down three one twice in the same postseason and come back for the home team in the second round of the bubble, seven average scoring margin of minus three and a half to be three and 15 as home teams for the last 18 games.

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I'm not saying an asterisk even means something negative. I'm just wondering if we went back to the people we were in May and we told them it was Nuggets, Lakers and Heat Celtics, would any part of us say, whoa, what happened? This like this doesn't feel like the same season? No, no, not not at all.

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I mean, the Nuggets were mean, projected to improve on last season and the Miami Heat were obviously favorites out, etc.. Sara, let me ask you a very simple question. Do you love your family?

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You love your family. You do. If you were forced away from their family for several months, wouldn't you think that would be difficult? Oh, but I'm not delegitimizing that oh, look at you dodging the tough questions, Spain. Have you ever sat in a hotel for more than four days? Yes, it has an asterisk. It's actually tougher to win a title this time around. How would you say that? I agree with you.

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I'm not certain you do.

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I think the conditions are more difficult. It is actually making it the most even keeled, even feels because there's no home, there's no fans. You don't get to leave if you hate each other. You got to spend all your time together. The asterisk I was asking about has nothing to do with what we're seeing competed in the bubble. It's merely that months ago, if you had seen this, would you consider it the same or equal to had this season been completed without it?

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I think the answer is pretty clear. It all right.

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No, I think we did. I get what she's arguing. She's saying you should put an asterisk next to it because it's an even tougher championship to win a gold plated asterisk. Sarah, Spain, I'm so happy. We deserve to a super asterisk anyway.

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And also, it was a question I didn't even see any opinion in the well, the opinion poll, the opinion you just stated is that in sport, an asterisk isn't necessarily negative. And that's nonsense. That's nonsense.

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What? I worry. Oh, come on.

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There's no one ever uses it in a positive light. There has been, you know, this neutral. And let me tell you this. Sarah came with us here on ESPN Radio. Let me tell you this. When you're asking the question, it's really you're giving your opinion. You're couching it as a question. I've done that before. Yes.

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Sarah, everyone's up to your tricks. You're saying this title shouldn't be an asterisk. It should be an exclamation point. That's what you're saying, right?

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Well, first of all, and I often do use the same rhetoric, we have a very similar style of both radio and just like, listen, I apologize for getting to so many people so angry.

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You go, that's fine. For me, that's the only reason we had one. Yes, we needed that apology.

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The first time Jimmy Butler's proven to my Chicago girl, I love Jimmy Butler. This has nothing to do with me rooting for anyone. I actually would prefer to see the nuggets or the heat. Wait, I think that's super fun. I just I just thought it was an interesting question.

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OK, well, now you've been browbeaten and you can leave here with the new name Sarah Kane. You have been called Sarah came by to God. What do you have here, Chris? You have something for Sarah. You're also want to give her give her the business.

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Well, she thinks that the heat or the nuggets would be super fun. So why not ask that? Why not put that out if they win? Is it super fun? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Yeah. Super, super.

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Super fun. Is it. So the most super fun. Super, super fun. More than that. Bigger super super on steroids fun or is it just super on my show tonight.

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I'm going to do that. We don't have a show tonight, but I'm going to do it on my show tonight.

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That question shouldn't have a show tonight punished for that asterisk, I guess. Fame. Check her out.

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He fits in Spain nightly. Should be in Spain, put on the pole guillemots in case should it be FIDs in Spain and put that on the pole as well. Should it be Fitz and Kane? And also put on the pole is Sarah Spain trying to be Sarah Kane?

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Or maybe we can make it speed and fist fits, but with an asterisk to it. How about with an asterisk?

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It's not negative. It's just an asterisk. It's totally benign. Thank you, Sarah, for being with us.

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I know. You know, I wish I could say the same.

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Sarah, I. I have never heard her browbeaten into something less than strong. Felt good. That was unbelievable. I don't understand what just happened.

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We got the best of the game in.

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Yes, she just fled the premises. And again, Billy, a second segment where we are unreasonably mad about the asterisk.

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Oh, it sounded to me like it was a bunch of guys screaming at a woman, I don't know, boo equality.

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Boo boo. Who paid that man his money? I actually think that's progress. I yelled at Sarah Spain the same way that I would yell at cocaine boy.

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Gamel, put it on the pole, please, at Lebed Show. Do you know why one gets their browbeaten at Lebed today? Show us two gods. Are you, Billy and Chris, ready to put out your first BCS rankings now that the Big Ten is coming back to play? And it looks like the PAC 12 is trying to get into position to get back and play, are you guys ready to do the first BCS rankings are not quite yet.

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No, I think we are indeed ready. We've expanded the BCS. We might need more time that we have in this segment, but we are ready to debut this season's BCS during today's show. All right.

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We will do this. Billy is very excited. We will do this at 11:00 a.m.. But first, I'm sorry, Christine, we interrupted you. And finally, McDonald's corporate has warned its employees that Travis Scott fans are ordering his wildly popular Travis Scott meal by simply blasting his hit song Sicko Mode at the drive thru. Speaking of, people who just pull up to McDonald's had expected attendants to hand them his order without speaking. Here's a. I'm not going to say anything is untrue about what I said.

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The absolute truth. I don't know how she knows that she seems to be watching me. Our thanks to Christine Lacy.

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This is what I would say to you. Regarding the return of college football, and I'm not going to shake my fist at everyone here, I've told you before that we as a network and we as people who care about sports are compromised on this issue. We want sports back because we love sports. And beyond that, we need sports. In order for people not to get fired around here, we need the sports to be vibrant. One of the chief capitalizes on the injustice of college football is ESPN is the television networks.

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And so we're compromised. We are not impartial on this one. What I would simply ask you to do. Is ask yourself the question, do you trust all of these coaches and teams and businesses that aren't actually amateurism to do this testing correctly and be transparent about the health of their players? Like do you yes or no? Because I don't I don't trust all these people who are going to be making the money to do this in a way that's clean.

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When I'm reading reports out of Colorado State that they're circumventing stuff and that should scare you if you care at all about what I'm about to say, which is no matter where you stand on this stupidly politicized issue, because everything in America now is a politicized issue no matter where you stand on it. This is so and it's so far from science to echoing beyond. We do not know the damage this thing is actually doing to people long term. And so if you're messing around with the hearts of young people and you're sending them into the fray for your money, that should make you a little squeamish.

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It is certainly easier to air on the side of caution. And you've seen what's happened with the idea of erring on the side of caution that this is a victory for Donald Trump, that the big that the big tent is coming back. That's a victory. That's something that he's going to take credit for because in a swing state, he got their beloved college football back. And I just ask you, without being hysterical, without being sitting here, being someone.

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Who is going to talk about the politics of everything that's happening here? I'm simply telling you that as you listen to this, we don't actually know the damage this thing is doing in in people. It's not killing. Right. And I don't trust the people who are governing shamma terrorism to do this correctly in a way that's not greedy. That is morally sound, because why would why would you trust them to do it in a way that's not like who does trust them to do it in a way that's not greedy and morally sound?

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Well, what do you say to the kids who were at a bit very vocal, like, hey, we want to play just Justin Fields, all those guys don't let the kids make this decision. Don't I mean, what do you say to those kids?

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What do you say to the kids that were adamant about getting money for playing in the PAC 12?

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I say they should have got money and they should sit until they get that they have no real power to God. So that's the thing. Like they don't actually have power. They can make a stink and everything else. But the business will shift to get back into the business of making money. It will get back to what is its normal over the objections to cries. You care about the kids only when you agree with them.

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You know why a lot of broadcasters are not calling the games from the actual locations. They're doing it from remote locations. Part of that is safety. You could argue that a lot of that is because it's expensive to test people. It's really expensive. And college football now in the Big Ten and the PAC 12 is what's being discussed is, you know, rapid daily test. That is very expensive. Hugely expensive. Yeah, but it is resource. So that's the way to make that happen.

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But they can't mobilize those resources to what they're doing it to protect more money.

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Mike, that's what they're doing. They're spending a great deal of money. This is the thing that's going to make money. This is the thing that's infuriating about how obviously a business it is. How do you not see how obviously a business it is in amateurism? It's not a dog. It's not a charitable institution. It's not this Bumba, you know, Title nine, paying for the other programs. It's a giant business that pays largely white administrators a great amount of money on the bodies of black people.

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But I think people recognize that it was a business before the pandemic. Now more people certainly do. It is certainly shining a light on it like never before. I think it's a business. But people, the public want their feel good. Damn, that's what they want. They want their feel good. And Ohio State, Michigan and Big Ten football make a whole lot of people feel good. And selfishly, that's all they care about.

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I want my feel good too, but I just say now make it your son and your heart issues for your son that are unknown. I want my feel good too.

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I don't have kids. Give me sports, give me more sports. Keep giving me sports. I mean, I'm a one issue voter. I'm a one issue voter on this. Please just keep giving me sports. It's great for my business. I do nothing but consume sports like this is a great, great profit for everybody involved around us to have sports alive and vibrant. It helps our economy. It does not start. I'm not totally sure. I'm not totally sure if there hadn't been college football, if people on this show wouldn't have lost their jobs because of how perilous the situation is with needing to make money in this economy.

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But make it your kid. And now how do you feel about it? Just answer the question. I don't know. I'm not a parent. I don't know. Answer the question for yourself.

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I mean, I've coached my kid this summer in lacrosse tournaments, and I can tell you safely that I have felt anxious and nervous about doing so and not certain I'm doing the right thing.

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To answer your question, my kid Lane, six and a half paid that man his money. It's hugely interesting. It really is. It's fascinating. Even if you don't care about sports and just are interested in sort of, you know, business machinations, I just like exploring my own hypocrisy because, yeah, I don't think it's right that they're not getting paid.

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I'm going to do anything about it. I'm going to be watching every year. You're getting paid for six and half like it. I like watching it. I like bending it. Let's keep it going. It's working out well for you. Yeah, it's unfair.

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What do you mean? Virginia Tech's not playing this week. Oh, no.

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Commonwealth Cup. Let's make it up. That's all I need. That's right. I got the raging Cajun special team there. Some odd games out there, man. It's hard to find a couple of lines that you like. Have you noticed that?

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Oh, I have.

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I know it's hard to find a game between opponents that you can't know what you're talking about. Like, the best we got was Notre Dame. Duke and BYU maybe got some beauties this weekend.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. You got BYU Navy. You didn't get BYU the next week, though, because of Goban.

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Yeah, there is that. So 15 minutes from now, we will have the unveiling, the dramatic unveiling of our BCS rankings, the Billy Chris and still got rankings. How does this work? I can't really call them preseason rankings. You're going to be doing it based off of largely week one.

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Yeah, well, the first couple of weeks and then projecting forward a little bit because this is a weird season and you never know when the seasons could end. And so we just figured, let's on roll, let's unveil the BCS standings early this year. So we're doing it based off of the first two weeks of the college football season.

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I mean, check out journalist Dan holding you to a higher standard than the actual AP, because Billy, Chris and Douglas rankings are coming up in 15 minutes.

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Yeah, Dan, we go by what we saw the first couple of weeks of the season and then the rest of it we go with our gut.

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OK, so there are teams that haven't played on there. Probably you have to wait and see what they did or whatever you just want to do right now.

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I mean, he's trying to say that that makes it fishy in any sort of way. Have you seen the AP top 25 right now? There's plenty of teams that are not playing and a crack that things get out of here.

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So a Twitter person writes in, and this is Mr. Old Fart.

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One, two, three is the I also also as part of his Twitter avatar, not surprisingly, is Colorado truck driver guy. OK, are you ready? Cause, wow, you almost made it through one hour without Dan bashing the white man. I didn't bash the white man, I gave you the statistical fact that off of college sports, large college sports, it's statistically so it's empirical. The people who make the most money are the white administrators.

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Like, that's not bashing you, Mr. Old Fart. One, two, three.

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That's just not a Colorado truck driver guy. It's not. I'm just telling you that what is so that the injustice that there is in college sports where they pay people and books when they don't pay you and books for being a Colorado truck driver guy, although I'd like to see that Mr. Old Fart. One, two, three. I'd like to see them pay you and books at the end of your Colorado trucking experience and see how that one goes. They pay the kids and books, but they most assuredly don't pay Nick Saban that way.

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You drive that truck from coast to coast across the country and when you get there, someone hand you a book, a textbook, a book you don't even want to read.

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It's not like, you know, Bonfire of the Vanities. It's just like a book about some whitewashed history book of some sort. It's not even a free book.

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Psych 101. You know what? I just made it a whitewashed history book. And damn it, again, in eight years, I failed to get through an hour without blaming the white man. I almost was there. I almost got there. And here we are at the end of the hour. And another hour goes in the books where I've failed to successfully do an hour of sports talk radio without blaming the white man. We blame the white woman here earlier in the hour.

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How about that for equality, this progress people evolution. Kendrick Perkins was on with us yesterday. You guys really liked him. We've got game two of Celtics and he tonight. And that means we get to play this.

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They're not there to buy you. Well, close by exposer.

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I love them out of the buy you. Well, close by exposer. It's true.

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There's no where the life I'm out of the buy you. Well, close by exposer.

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Now, how does this work with Heat fans? Because you expect long series and if you expect a long series, that means you probably expect to lose tonight. But I find with Heat fans and fans in general, when they expect a long series, they also expect to win every single game, which doesn't make any sense. And if you ask them before any game, even up three, oh, are you going to win? Are you going to lose?

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I'm going to win today, even though I expect a long series.

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It's a house money game before they take the computerise logo's and switch them and put the Heat logos on the floor so that he could feel good regardless of the result tonight. But I'm certain Heat fans have gotten selfish to a point where I think Dan is right on a neutral floor with no fans. You're expecting to win just about every game. The way this team is playing, they're playing so well and they've only lost one game here in the postseason.

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What kind of what kind of favorite is Boston tonight? Four and a half maybe.

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I think because you've got a situation here with the Boston Celtics where they aren't any more experience than the Miami Heat in this situation. You look at these teams in these rosters, you could say and you'd be right, that Jayson Tatum is the best player on the floor. But when you look at both of these teams next to each other, you're not finding appreciable differences between what they're good at and what they're bad at. They're very small differences and whatever the differences are.

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And on any night when shots are going in, either team is going to end up winning the game.

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When the shots go in Celltex or minus two and a half tonight, two and a half the playoff experience.

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One is difficult because Jason Tatum's already been new. In Eastern Conference final, this core has been through several playoff series. Brad Stevens has also gone through several playoff series. But if you look at individual players on Miami who has more playoff experience and Andre Iguodala, Jae Crowder has loads of playoff experience. It's really the young guys came Tyler Hero continue to do that throughout an entire series being twenty years old.

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But the young guys are twenty two year old Jason Tatum, who's already played grizzled vet in a bunch of these. But what good. I'm just curious.

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J.R. Smith had plenty of playoff experience when he forgot the score of a finals game, he did, you know, he had a ton he was in those situations all the time and he managed to forget the score.

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LeBron had plenty when he forgot how to post up JJ Barea.

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I mean, I just I don't we did this with the Spurs for a long time. Every time they would lose, they were an old team. Every time they'd win, they were an experienced team. But that can't be one of the advantages in this series that's not allowed. Kemba Walker, failing all the time in the playoffs, isn't allowed to count as great playoff experience for Kemba Walker at that time in the Guard and in the new BCS ranking.

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Yes, Billy, Chris and Stu got. It's coming up next.