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So a couple of segments removed from saying, I don't care for anybody's opinions. I'm going to talk to Bill Lawrence about his opinions on what is happening in the television industry, the streaming industry, the future of content and movies in a second. But first, we need our kazoos and Christine Lacy.

And finally, it would take a snail four thousand five hundred and seventy five years to circle the earth, speaking of things that feel like it takes forever to get through. You're listening to the Dan Levitas show as you got here.

Thank you, Christine. We appreciate it. So he's been on with us the last couple of days, cocreator of Scrubs. We're good friends now, right? You are always good friends with anybody you talked to for nine minutes. And Ted Lazo is on Apple TV. Plus, it's a very positive fun show. A lot of people are talking about it in ways that are very complimentary. Bill Lawrence with us again on ESPN Radio. We were talking earlier about whether or not movie theaters are dying.

I want to talk to you about content in general. But the movie theater experience, like what's this going to be like once things get back to normal as someone who knows what it's like to create content in Hollywood. Look, you know, I think it's a lot of conjecture, but I think I should have asked to when you got and you guys stay in that studio, when you guys completely move over to ESPN plus or do they make a bigger studio?

They're not moving over.

You know, we're just available. We're not corporate says we're not moving. We're not switching. We're not we're just available on ESPN plus. But yes, we will be in the same studio. Nothing. Not moving. Not switching. The I think most people feel that the communal industry anyways is something specific to the communal experience of seeing a movie with a crowd. And I mean, the easiest metaphor is when you see a scary movie, you know how much different it is if you're watching by yourself at home and pausing it as opposed to in the movie theater experience.

So it could just be a bunch of people with their fingers crossed. But they are hopeful that, you know, once we kind of get through this pandemic, that that will kind of return in a way as if it were never gone. That said, it does seem like every single feature movie right now that makes money is either an animated movie or a giant superhero movie.

So you were talking the other day, though, about the way that streaming has changed the business. And you were saying and I don't know whether it was flippant or just simply accurate, and I don't know when this change, but if you've got a star like Jason Sudeikis that you could basically get anything made, that there's so much money being poured into content that as long as you have a star and just say, hey, this guy's got a movie idea or a television idea, somebody is going to end up making it because so many people are dying for content.

When did that happen? You know, I'll shoot that dynamic a little bit. It's it's actually more of a burden on the producers is I think that unless it's a certain, you know, level star, top 10, female or male actor, actresses type of things, it's a burden for the producers in it. Now, even if you have a great idea and an idea that you really are committed to working, they'll say, oh, we'll definitely do this.

If you have one of the actors or actresses from our list of 20 actors or actresses that we think we can market and build a show around attached to star in it. So essentially, when you used to just say that TV created stars, now you're in this weird bramich burdened with these streaming sites who want to have flashy, promotable things to to draw people to their one show out of 500 on Netflix or whatever. TV doesn't create stars the same way anymore in streaming.

I think more often you have to build around a big piece of talent. So like with Jason, we got you know, we got Noad almost everywhere with Ted Laza before we suckered Apple into giving us no bill.

Lauren's with us here on ESPN Radio. The first season of Ted Lassos available now on Apple TV. Plus, the show has been renewed for seasons two and three. Bill, more difficult coming up with a premise or writing a show once you have that premise established.

Anybody that tells you that they enjoy writing is a sociopath. That's a fake claim. People enjoy having written things like you can hand something over to someone, go, look, this is finished. But when you're the people that tell me, man, I love sitting around and just being in front of my computer and writing, you know, like term papers in high school and college, I think that they're off and something's wrong. So communal writing like comedy writing is a blast because it's a lot like what you all do.

You sit around with a group of people that you should enjoy anyways and and kind of come up with jokes and riffs. But man, writing is just arduous.

What is the writer's room that Bill Lawrence, those people, they really create stuff every time, like they are just a fountain of creativity. And I love how they handle their their craft. Like, do you have a television show in mind when you just think of extraordinary writing? Because writing funny is the hardest thing. You know, I think there's an ego thing involved, and so for a lot of us, when you see something that you don't think you can necessarily do, you're consumed by a combination of self-hatred and jealousy.

And for me, the show Veep, you know, they were almost inventing new ways to curse and to be just horrible to each other. And Man is as a comedy writer. I watched it day to day basis with all you know. And and by the way, it was often referencing in the Ted LASO room, because it's the exact opposite of what we were trying to do, because I don't you know, I think every character on that show is reprehensible in his or her own way.

When you say you got a lot of no's on Ted LASO, how many no's? And did any one of them hurt more than the other? You know, it's I've reached the point in my career that I'm a little bit Teflon, you know, and I use the nose is kind of bulletin board material. And if you compare it to when we were all mediocre high school athletes. Really?

Really. So you leave the room, really, you guys. And I think of ways to insult those people for rejecting you. Yeah, well, I mean, it's that, you know, I'm sure the way Hollywood works, though, is that when you want to do your told you so moment for your how's that feel moment. It's satisfying for about, I don't know, one or two minutes and then you pay for it and I'd say two or three years of your career.

You just seems worth it though.

I was just going to ask you, who do you want to tell? I told you so on Ted Lassalle, I feel free if you want to burn that bridge right here.

I think it's in the past I get a draft, I would say, out loud, but I've never had a show on Netflix. And I certainly sat there and pitched this show to Netflix, which isn't so. And I say that is a Netflix fan as somebody that watches a ton of shows over there.

That was the most I told you. So I for some reason, I decided to end my career at Netflix today. It was pretty good.

Well, how do you how do you feel about what Netflix is doing? Because, you know, not that we have a whole lot of access to showrunner, but Mike sure is a little bit worried about just how dominant Netflix is and how formulaic they are about surgically ending things once they have the data they want on what demographic they have captured.

Well, you know, it's it's going to be really interesting to watch the next couple years of TV simply because it's evolving so fast. I mean, we're a generation I'm sure you guys all remember when you had four channels, you know, and the the traditional thing out here is that very soon the landscape will kind of be dominated by Disney plus Netflix and HBO, Max, because those three streaming sites have tremendous libraries. You know, Disney is a self-fulfilling prophecy.

If you want to go see any of those Disney movies with your kids or anything, you know, that stuff that you do to avoid parenting, you're going to have to go to Disney. And Netflix has a master library and HBO. Max has all the Big Bang Theory friends, Harry Potter movies. And so it could be interesting is to see who survives beyond those three, you know, could be somebody like Apple that has a bazillion dollars or Amazon who is probably just in the TV business so the executives can go to awards parties.

I don't know, you know, I mean but I think once there's a level playing field with Netflix, you know, those other two streaming sites that hopefully will change a bit. But yes, right now it feels like you're putting a show on there for three years, then you're done. All right.

Excellent work. Also, you know, burning that bridge to Amazon. We'll talk to you tomorrow about the plane crash. We'll get to it. We'll call you tomorrow about the plane crash.

I do want to get to it, OK? Have a good day. Now, wait a minute. Yeah, well, you got my you got a phone for Bill Lawrence. You just got to play for him because I think he was going for Michael Doleac. Response. The worst response we've ever gotten. And you're an elite company here because we've only invited a couple of people back every day for many days. It's Michael Doleac. It's docked in Dover.

And you find that tiger, you regret the docking? We do. In retrospect, we got caught up in it.

Yes, we do regret that one in retrospect and in real time. And we were getting yelled at, but it was a pandemic. So we were all out of our minds. But here is Michael Doleac with what we believe to be the greatest comedic reaction to us, asking him back another time. Michael, thank you. We'll do it again with you tomorrow. Yes.

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I assure you, I'm the only one at the network that had Stone Gocher, one of the co creators of Pearl Jam. Great guitarist, one of my favorite musicians of all time. I'm probably the only one who had them on their podcast this week. And so I sat down with Stone Gossard for about 45 minutes. A great, riveting conversation, fun conversation that we we put out this morning.

I got to get around to this because we've promoted this one more than we did with your Tom Brady interview.

Yeah, it's gossip. And he's a legend, Stone Gossard. I mean, there are very few musical legends amongst us, and he is one of them. And he's on my podcast. He put it on the pole. Do you know who Stone Gossard is? Just put it on the pole at Libertador Show.

I wanted to get into a story that's on ESPN Dotcom. And also, if you're supporting the stuff that we do around here, please, we ask you to rate, subscribe and review and just make sure you have access to the Lieberthal and Friends menu and also Big Stewy and the local. Our the way that we keep much of the stuff free around here is because you guys support it and then the sponsors support us. It's what has made us a digital monster.

You guys have done that. And so we ask you to continue to do that because it keeps the lights on in here and keeps everything up and running. But I saw a story here, two guys on ESPN Dotcom.

And if you know my history in this business, it's been weird over the last, I don't know, ten years to sort of become. I remember when this happened to me, I've become a political figure that gets sort of used as a tool. And I didn't even see how it was happening. Right. Going way back to like Steve Bannon and Breitbart, they would take things that I said because I'm not a political person. I was a sports person and am a sports person who likes to talk about race.

And you've seen right now you're in the middle of it, right? You're in the middle of it. Amazingly, and with a form of poetic justice, there's the chance that Atlanta and Detroit, two very black cities, end up toppling this presidency. But you guys have seen over the years, if you've been following the show, I have been someone because I am seen as defending athletes, because I fancy myself an empathetic figure. I fancy myself someone who doesn't rain down judgment on others.

I have been viewed as a player apologist. Very often I'm supporting the black athlete in explaining behavior. I'm always trying to explain behavior instead of excusing it. Anyways, over the years, what's ended up happening is that I am viewed as a bleeding heart, left leaning or far left. And so I get thrown into this political conversation when I've told you many different times I'm not interested in it. The only reason that I've been interested over the last four years, the only reason is because of how obvious the racial division is.

And so the thing that I wanted to go down the path with you on, because it is something that I find just sort of fascinating how it happens all the time.

ESPN dot com, and it's a tricky one for me, is doing a long story about Steve Sarkisian, the offensive coordinator with Alabama. And I've been somebody who. Always supports people making money. I'm not in your pockets taking money away from people, and I'm also someone who, when it comes to addiction, when it comes to drug use or alcohol use, that can't be controlled. I view that as a sickness. I'm not someone who is condemning the alcoholic or the drug addict who just can't control themselves anymore and is making bad decisions.

But when I see that Steve Sarkisian has been fully rehabilitated in image in the way that Colorado offered him a job that he could turn down and that he's making 2.5 million dollars a year as a coordinator in a sport where they keep telling me they can't pay the labor right.

When I see a guy who was drinking on the job as the USC coach where people had reports of alcohol on his breath when he's coaching, I marvel at the way that he gets rehabbed. And I wonder and I've posed this question to the audience. Does a black guy get to do that if a black guy shows up at his head coaching job with alcohol on his breath, does he get to stand next to Nick Saban? And then does he get rehabbed?

Like, are there examples? And I ask a question. I ask you that question, not actually knowing the answer. John Lucas famously was helping people who had addiction because he came from addiction and he got coaching jobs. But is there is there allowed to be the black Steve Sarkisian, a guy drinking on the job? Like it's not just an alcohol problem, but it's an alcohol problem that he brought to kids, according to reports?

I'm not certain. I mean, we'll have to see if there are actual examples of that. I'd like to think in some places, at some university, some jobs. Yes. That would be available. I also think it's up to the person, your boss, your employer, as to whether or not that they get any one is doing what they tend to be white and so on. The bosses tend to be white. The forgiveness tends to be extended to other white people.

Is it white or is it value? Is he really good at his job? Therefore, he's getting second chances, much like Antonio Brown, much like Dwight Gordon, much like countless athletes who have had sick of it all. But the difference between athletes and leadership is different. I'm just talking about is Sarkeesian so good at his job that he actually has value making World Series as good? Ron Washington? No, I believe he's a bench coach, but I've read articles about how he's desperate for a second chance and he had a cocaine issue in his past.

I was just surprised to read that Sarkeesian had already turned down a head coaching job, that that Colorado was already available to him because in terms of egregious offenses, I couldn't think like day drinking as a college coach. When you're an educator around kids like that, that seemed to me it's even even when I've heard the stories about alcoholism, I hadn't heard a whole lot of stories about coaches bringing it that obviously to work on like game day and stuff. So it was a conflicting one for me because it runs against the injustices as I see them in college football and the desire to extend compassion to anybody who can't control, you know, whose life is descending into darkness because they can't control their behavior because they've got certain brain chemistry that doesn't allow them to conquer addiction.

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Today on ESPN Daily. It started Trevor Lawrence sidelined by covid Clemson freshman quarterback gets their start here. More on this rising star. That's ESPN Daily. Listen unsubscribed.

Wait a minute. What freshman quarterback gets their start? That's what it says here.

Now there's probably a name there. The Bears, no name, a backup quarterback for Clemson.

I know it's a tongue twister. I am telling you, that name was not included in the copy. It was not Roy did not write this copy, otherwise he would have included it.

So someone else wrote copy that doesn't have the name of the human being who is backing up Trevor Lawrence.

It says Clemson's freshman backup quarterback gets the start. Hear more on this rising star, this nameless, rising star. He's got a name, it's just I was trying to practice for pronouncing it on television the other day. It's a hard name.

That's ESPN Daily listeners. Describe wherever you get your podcast. I don't know his name.

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How about that? How about that? Not surprising that Mike Tomlin is not surprised by that and neither are the rest of us. Thank you, Christine. Again, a reminder, we've got some bonus show for you all around the terrestrial two hours. We've got a local hour. We've got a big story that's a little bit different every day. Bomani Jones has been joining us on that, as well as some other libertarian friends characters. And we've got a postgame show as well.

Stewart, it has been reported that Antonio Brown is again living with Tom Brady at the home of Derek Jeter. And it has been also reported that the Buccaneers are stunned by how good a shape Antonio Brown is in. He went through. As public a meltdown as you will ever see from an athlete, he appears to be addicted to social media. There seems to be and this doesn't usually get diagnosed publicly well, when a guy is behaving in a way that's totally erratic.

But there seems to have been some mental health stuff that he was dealing with, just observing it from weird behavior that doesn't have a whole lot of precedent in professional sports. And now he comes back and no one can dispute what a great receiver he is. What do you expect from him?

I expect him to be great. And I'll tell you why in a second. First off, when he left the game, he was probably the best wide receiver in football. So a couple of years removed here. Here's why I think it'll be great. That team is good. They have good wide receivers. So the focus will just be on Antonio Brown. They have Mike Evans, they have Chris Godwit. If he's healthy, they have a bunch of tight end running backs.

He doesn't use Evans that much. Usually he seems to throw more to Miller than he does to every year.

He throws them into the end zone, which is probably where you should throw him the ball, that guy. But here's the reason, Dan.

You have the game's greatest quarterback to ever play the game, who has stood by Antonio Brown side for over a year now, one of them in New England. Let him live in his house, as you pointed out, in New England, living with him now. And you have and then when Antonio Brown was cut, it seemed like Brady was upset that the Patriots were unwilling, was upset to at least hear him out and hear Antonio Brady did not want them to get rid of Antonio Brown in New England.

Brady clearly starved for skill position. Guys, it's the reason he's no longer in New England.

And so now you have a guy who's a bit down on his luck. It didn't seem like a bunch of teams wanted him, although there were reports that Seattle was interested. So Russell Wilson was one of the guys that was interested. But I think Tom Brady and the loyalty that he has shown Antonio Brown through some really horrible times for Antonio Brown, I think Antonio is motivated to play well for that guy who was stood by his side for over a year now.

I mean, down on his luck is one way to describe it, probably with kid gloves. But they sought counsel with Tony Robbins, which is sort of problematic in its own right, being that he had multiple allegations of sexual abuse.

Yes, but Tony Robbins as life coach and inspiration, Antonio Brown is saying that he is a better person now, having gone having crawled through all of that, I'm just saying I feel like he's probably my going to be motivated to play well if for nothing else, not for himself, not for the team, for the guy who gave him who believed in him, stood by his side, but no one else was and practically gave him a second chance.

Bruce Arians, did I want this? Tom Brady did. And he doesn't want to disappoint Tom Brady.

That's charming that you would assign that to Tom Brady. No, no. I mean, I leadership. I assume all that's caring about the fountain of youth is what that is like. It is. It is leadership. But Tom Brady's not he's not Brother Theresa on this. When he's doing that for himself, he's not necessarily doing that for Antonio Brown.

You're right. Well, I think let all the Tampa Bay has got a very good team.

I don't know if they even need Antonio Brown yet. Tom Brady still going to bat for Antonio Brown. Talent of Antonio Brown. It's over. Well, anybody would want to throw to it. And Mike Evans as a deep threat in that offense hasn't been used a whole lot because for a while now, Tom Brady has been Edelman tight end running backs in a really efficient, great way. But it's a it's been an exceptional way to age. And if you add a talent like Antonio Brown, it's going to help you.

But that's my point. Anyone can throw to Antonio Brown. He's going to help anyone. And you would think anyone would want Antonio Brown once he was cleared. The team that wanted him, the person that wanted him was the great quarterback.

I believe. While you keep saying that and by the way, I just I just want to ask you, I understand you're used to saying that, but isn't Mahomes someone that we are now describing as the best quarterback we've ever seen?

I mean, you might I'm not hearing from that. All right.

So put it on the pole, please. Anthony, who's a better quarterback. Tom Brady, who at their peak of their powers at the peak of their powers is a better quarterback, Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, I'm just curious how the audience is going to answer that. It'll be fascinating to watch. Just from a football perspective, that game Sunday night, it's just could be Brees and Brady treating the all time record. Everyone loves a good comeback story except for maybe this one.

I can't believe 2020. We're still doing Brees and Brady.

I want to I want to analyze after making fun of it. I just want to analyze all of the quarterbacks in the NFL. Let's begin with Tom Brady. Big, strong pocket awareness. How about Matt Ryan?

Big, strong pocket awareness.

How about Aaron Rodgers big strong pocket awareness about Nick Foles. Big, strong pocket awareness about Kirk Cousins.

Not so aware, how about Carson Wentz? Oh, these are getting tougher. I mean, you gave Foles that big, strong pocket awareness.

Ben Roethlisberger, big strong pocket awareness. Joe Burrow, big, strong pocket awareness.

Sam, Donald, big, strong pocket awareness. The Sean Watson big, strong pocket awareness. Ryan Tannehill, big, strong pocket awareness.

David Carr, big, strong pocket awareness. Herbert Big, strong pocket awareness. Baker, Mayfield. You always get caught up with the David Carr and Derek Carr, right? I call them David Carr. It's a tough one.

I just got Carr big strong pocket awareness.

Was that for Baker Carr? You know, that would make a big, strong pocket awareness, even though none of them apply.

You can't give them to Baker and not, of course, in the pocket awareness duties like 60 fumbles.

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And you're crossing the line of Chris Cody just announced via chat that he only knows Tony Robbins from now.

That's right. Get out of here and say a lot of. I think that's amazing. It are we all. I was introducing a minute, Chris being dumb, being so I had no idea who he was until Shallow Hal.

I was just never into the sort of thing Tony Robbins sells.

And then now you are now Ted LASO as Tony Robbins lies. And now that you've grown up so much, you're backing away from Tony Robbins just because of his very questionable decision making that has been reported ad nauseum, that we are not allowed to tease Tom Brady reclamation projects.

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Do you remember Woolly Willie, the bald faced that you would add garbage debris as a magnetic mustache and hair?

Yes, a tongue twister. Explain how it is. But you need to explain because asking people, do you remember or do you know Woolly Willy isn't going to help. But now all of a sudden, if you tell them it's sort of like an Etch A Sketch, it's a bald face, it's a useless sort of toy. It should be at the dollar store. But evidently it's about eight dollars and you just magnetically drag some fuzz across your screen to make a mustache.

I thought we established that. Yeah, I was just honoring Billy there. That was just an homage to inefficient Billy. I got fifty six percent of the audience said yes. Is Brian Adams still getting it done? Oh, come on, come on, come on.

The big one not going to come back. Yes. Ryan Adams is not still getting it done. He is 61 years old.

Mike said yes. What I asked him. The audience disagrees. Fifty five percent of the audience says no. Divided audience, though, Mike. A divided country. Mike, it is the most divided thing we are divided about.

Is Mike Ryan talking too much today?

That one's not going to be divided along their overwhelming. Eighty two percent of the audience said yes, look at that.

Congratulations. That's a bit of a victory for you percent, though.

Are we still making power ballads? It's a great question, Mike. I love a good power ballad. 80 percent of the audience said no lost stars. When did that stop? I don't know why Warren did.

Was that a Robin Hood? I mean. Oh, man.

You know, you remember right, Barry? Thank you. Because it was like a like he was like the three kings coming together. Correct? You get Sting, you get Rod Stewart. Wait a second. Was Bill Loggins, wasn't it? Oh, wait. No, no, no, wait. I'm doing, you know, three musketeers big. Fine. Whoa, I'm going Costner. Robin Hood. OK, but that's a movie I'm doing.

I don't know what's gone, you know, I don't know what he's doing, but what do you think a power ballad is?

It's it's what we play from Brian Adams earlier power ballad Like a love song with what song you thinking of? I can't remember men and I cannot remember Robin Hood, Kevin Costner, the love song for that movie.

Kevin Costner.

It's a power ballad and but I confuse it with The Three Musketeers Power Ballad of Rod Stewart, Sting and Bryan Adams. All for one and all for love.

They put together Three Musketeers, a power balladeers, and they came out with an absolute banger.

I need to stop the show right now. Everything I do.

Oh, yes. Wait, wait. Was that from was that from that.

What are you doing? I want to understand what you're doing in terms of Kevin Costner. Why your power ballad? It's I'm thinking of heavy metal bands or you're thinking incorrectly or band. I'm thinking incorrect.

I know what you're thinking. You just confuse it with a Mel Brooks film. Yeah.

Listen, I am telling you everything I do. I do it for you. By the way, that is Bryan Adams. That is considered one of the great power ballad songs of all time. I know, but what are you doing with Kevin Costner?

What do you mean what am I doing? Costumers in the movie he starred in that Robin show. Right.

Basically, the point that he's trying to make is that Bryan Adams is the Michael Jordan the movie soundtrack power ballads, because he had one on Robin Hood, Prince of Thieves. He had one on Three Musketeers and also Don Juan DeMarco.

Mm hmm. That's what I was doing. OK, it just was unclear to me. I don't think I was the only one.

It was unclear to at the peak of their powers, who's the better quarterback? Brady Mahomes early voting here. My home, sixty eight and a half percent don't do it, I care about you all 68 and a half percent of your final poll question here today. Damn, you know who Stone Gossard is? The legend. You said the legend Stone, that this is actually an important one. You did say there are very few musical legends left like Stone.

Well, unfortunately, only twenty five percent of the audience agree with them. There are very few, very few power ballad greats like Kevin Costner anymore.

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