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Put it on the pole, please, JuJu, at Levitard show. Is anyone in America someone who has a higher Q rating than Dolly Parton, because it is impossible these days to get maximum popularity, consensus, love. But at 77 years old, she stole Thanksgiving Day by having the confidence to wear a Dallas Cowboys cheerleader outfit at an age, I'm guessing, when most 77-year-olds wouldn't have the confidence or the ability to pull that off. Not a lot of people 40 years and 50.

Years.

Younger than her can pull that particular look off. But she stole Thanksgiving, where even Jerry Jones was saying on Thanksgiving Day, and he gets carried away. He said that that victory on Thanksgiving Day felt as good to him as all of the Super Bulls because- Liar.

-i'm guessing he got into the Johnny Walker blue.

And it just.

Felt emotional and good to beat up the rival Washington team that way.

Because he's Jack Del Rio.

Some people have complained about Jake Tapper coming on here and saying that Jaylen Hertz is the best quarterback in the NFL. They've complained about me saying that Jack Prescott has been better this year, but he has been better this year. Statistically, it's.

Not- He's also won against Jalen Hertz. Exactly. I mean, Jalen Hertz was incredible yesterday. I think the.

Offense- But he wasn't even the best quarterback on the field yesterday.

I mean, he was.

The winning quarterback on the field yesterday.

Okay, but is that how we're going to do it?

I mean, Danny played well.

Josh Allen- I'm not saying he.

Didn't play well. That was a bad pick.

It was a bad pick.

Yeah, Jalen. Jalen Hertz won the game. Jalen had a fun in his own end. Yeah, Josh Allen never won an overtime game, despite them changing the rules for him, too.

Regardless, I began talking about Dolly Parton and the way that she.

Sold- She's.

Having a moment. -if I may.

But it's been 50 years.

It was great to see. Even though Dallas and that organization had the opportunity to do something that everybody's been clamoring for since it goes viral every year, you got to give Creed another shot at the half-time show for Thanksgiving. I'm issuing a challenge right now to Jerry Jones. Please, dear God, run it back. But Dolly Parton was fine, and I'm selling a lot of merch from that half time performance. People are going crazy for the dolly stuff, if I may say. It was just a little like, I understand the age, but hanging on to the star the entire time. It was just- What are you doing? I understand, but hanging on to the star the entire time. If you watch like I was watching. She was holding on to that star the way that I would hold on to the side of a boat if it were going in choppy waters a little bit.

Terrible scene in the house if you were behind the stage. The star just totally engulfed her. Why wasn't she on the star? She was just hanging around the star and that platform didn't look like there was a lot of space for her to move. It was very dangerous. Why put Dolly in that predicament?

Did you see the predicament that Ludacris was in? What do you mean? We're in the entertainment business.

He's younger, though.

It just felt a lot more dangerous what Dolly was doing than what.

Ludacris was doing. No, that can't be so what you're saying. A 77-year-old holding onto a star cannot be as dangerous as a rapper descending from the rooftop. What you're saying is not in any way true.

With Dolly, I'll admit it. I said it.

You didn't say it, though.

I said it in my living room. Same thing everyone else said.

Yeah, I know what you meant.

Yeah, and I.

Meant it. But you can't say there I said it on something that you haven't actually said. Everyone knows. Yeah, I agreed. But you can't say there I said it when you haven't actually said it. You guys know. I do know.

What was that face? Can we zoom in on Chris's face there?

I'm not a good wanker.

That has never been a good wanker. That was not a confident wank.

Wanking is a tricky game.

It is not a tricky game.

What's the trick? It's a wank or a blink.

I can't do my right. I can't wank my right eye without the left one also going down. That's a blink. I'm better with the left, though.

So you're a good blinker.

Can I see?

We should put it on the poll, Did you say it?

Because I did. Well, in regards to Dolly Parton, you didn't say it. You didn't say anything. You just said, There, I said there. I said it without having actually.

Said it.

There you go.

You didn't say it, and then you blink at me. You didn't wink at me because you're not coordinated enough to wink. You closed both eyes at the same time.

Fingerguns.

And you saw all six of the quarterbacks on Tony's All-Squint team. Speaking of dangerous predictions, someone writes in, Stugatz, The thing I hate the most about Dan getting on his soapbox about the meat grinder and machine of the NFL is when he acts like the players are some victim. Besides the fact that they are compensated handsomely for the risk they take for playing a violent game for a living.

The players participate by choice.

They're.

Willing participants in the machine.

Not a single one of them are oblivious to the business or the dangers of the NFL.

He's that guy. Drew Brees can't throw with his right arm.

That's sad, man.

You think he knew that? You think he knew that was- Before he started playing? -you think he knew that was one of the possibilities. I know we think they're not oblivious to the dangers of the game, but I think if you asked retired players what they thought they were going to feel when the game was over, Drew Brees wouldn't have told you, I don't think I'm going to be able to throw passes to my kid.

Right-handed anymore because I've had so many surgeries on my shoulder.

But if you told breeze when he was coming out of Purdue that he would play until he was 40 and throw that many passes, don't you think he would probably know like, hey, this is going to hurt, right?

I don't know, Stugart.

Whether they.

Can factor in at 20 the pain they're feeling at 45. I think.

The answers to.

Some of these questions are different whether you're sidling up to a player when he's 65 years old and already.

Cannot do some of the things.

That Dolly Parton can do because of what the game does to them. I do believe that we are more informed now than we've ever been about what the risks are. But I believe there are a whole lot of players limping around the world right now who played on turf a lot worse than the one that the New York Jets play on who didn't know what they were signing up for.

I think the craziest part about him sharing that story was the arthritis has settled in from the injury that he had when he was playing for the San Diego Chargers. If you recall, he was a totally different quarterback before that injury, and he became, for a brief moment in time before braided took the record back because they were playing patty cake with him for a little bit, the most prolific passing, despite having an injury that right now causes him to throw lefty when he's having turkey bowl with his kids.

You think, Stugat, that most quarterbacks throwing footballs right now think to themselves, In my 40s, I will not be able to throw with my throwing arm. You think that's.

What they think? Well, I don't know if they're all thinking it. Everyone's body is different. But yeah, I think if they're thinking to themselves, Hey, Josh Allen, Patrick Mohams, I'm going to play until I'm 40, 41, 42, 43, there's a possibility my shoulder is going to feel really bad when it's all said and done, of course. But quarterbacks are playing longer now, Dan. They're throwing the ball more.

Than they used to. But only one has performed at a high level once they get to that tipping point age. It's Tom braided. They all have a huge decline. We haven't seen it with Aaron Rogers, though I could say that you can lump in an Achilles giving out. You can lump that into a body aging. It's just we got too accustomed to seeing braided and breeze starting for their teams at unprecedented ages that we thought that this was the new NFL. So far, the only person to be that age and perform at the high level was the greatest quarterback of all time, Tom braided.

Did Alex Smith win over a nation yesterday by completely taking down Tom braided?

He's great. Alex Smith is great at television.

He is. He also, by the way, took down everyone else on set at the same time because it's a set full of Patriots and jets. He's like, Tom braided, not a.

Very good division. I didn't see what he said.

He came out and he said, basically, Tom braided, zip it up. The only reason that you're even good this long is because you were in the most uncompetitive division in the history of football.

Right. And he said they made these.

Rules for you. Somehow the dolphins catch you.

Straight there. The thing that Alex Smith was objecting to is Tom braided saying the league is mediocre now when he's not that far removed from playing in the League the way that it looks exactly right now. So if it is mediocre now, it was also mediocre while Tom braided was playing in it. But the thing that Tom braided is giving voice to is the thing that we're talking about with risk when he says it's not as great as it used to be because you can't hit the way that you used to be able to hit. He is doing the thing that a lot of players do and a lot of people in their living room do when they say, You've made a flag football. It is not flag football.

I can see what I'm watching out there on Sundays, and you can think to yourself on your couch in the safety of your living room that that is not that violent out there.

But.

What I am watching, the pace and the speed with which people are running.

Into each other, I have this thought.

All the time, Stugat.

It's like.

The idea of running around with helmets and colliding into people in something that requires helmets. The Matter doors don't have helmets and bull fighting. The idea of launching yourself into somebody and having to wear protective head gear that you would wear when riding a motorcycle. Right.

But the game is safer, Dan, especially for that position. But it's safer because of Tom braided. Those rules were made so guys like braided could play into their 40s and win a.

Super Bowl.

I'm not actually.

Sure.

Though, how much safer it.

Is even with the rules.

If I'm adding 50 pounds of weight to everybody and they're moving faster.

A.

Lot faster. Go watch. I saw this. This was on the television in the gym here the other day.

The.

First Patriots Tom braided Super Bowl against the Rams. The Rams were allegedly a very fast team. I'm watching that and I'm like, No one on this field is fast. This does not look fast compared to what I'm watching today. That was 20 years ago, and I'm watching an old game, and that's the greatest show on turf. I'm like, This doesn't look as fast as.

Today's game. I refuse to believe that Isaac Bruce wasn't fast. I'm sorry.

He wasn't the fastest player on that team.

Tory.

Holt. Marshall Falk. What? Tory Holt were faster.

Azza Kim on that team.

Oh, my God. But it wasn't that fast is what I'm telling you. I'm watching it.

The Stealers.

Today are faster.

Twenty years ago. Glocky pads. I mean, Kurt Warner's got loose sleeves.

How fast do you think Teddy Bruski really was? You go ahead and tell me.

Not Fred Warner Fast, I'll tell you that.

I'm telling you, you can't see it. It's not obviously discernible, but the people that were playing 20 years ago, it might as well have been the 1940s.

Don Levitard.

You got to know I'm.

A big Colombo guy. Salute to that boy.

Okay, I don't think that's truth. I don't think that's truth. I think that's a lie. I don't think that's that. He said, Salute. I don't think that is evidence. Salute to that boy. It suggests camouflage. It suggests that JuJu has no idea what we're talking about. And now is just Googling it. Stugats.

I'm not Googling it. My grandmother stayed in the country. I watched The Braves. I watched Colombo, I watched Matlock. I watched Andy Griffin. I'm not a fan of you.

Sir, but you go to.

The pill in the box, damn. You take your ass to the point about it. I'm not a liar. You tell him JuJu.

Back to.

You, Stu. This is the Dan Lebertar Show with the Stoo Guards.

Does anyone care about the O'Tony thing?

Did you see that they said that if it was made public that you were courting him or he was meeting with you, that he'd hold it against your team? So everything's very tight-lipped around it. Yeah.

So they're all.

Mystery teams. 30 mystery teams.

Oh, I can get in on this. I mean, he's a mega star, but he's not going to be able to pitch next year, right?

I have a fun game to play for this. Because he is a mega star. I completely agree. What jersey number does he wear?

I don't know what jersey number he wears right now, even though I just decided he's a mega star.

I'm not saying that's the way. I think he's 17, right? He is 17. But it was one of those things where the other day I was thinking, I was talking to somebody about what a star he is. They were like, What jersey numbers does he wear? I was like, Shit.

Did you say 51?

I remember when that was the most important thing in my life was knowing jersey numbers of players. Oh, what.

A simpler time. Oh, Sheffield 10. I have a much better shot at naming the 90s jersey numbers.

I think Pat Rap was 48.

How do you.

Know that? Trout is 27.

That we know, yes. I know that. Mj, 23.

What are the things in sports phantom that go first with age?

Is it because I-The name of the starting LSU quarterback?

No, the Utah Jazz.

Coach would.

Be somebody that I would misplace before the LSU starting quarterback.

There is no shots who got the.

Most of this name.

Quit Snyder?

Billy nailed Patrapp, by the way.

It's so sad that I purged so much more useful stuff out of my memory, but not.

That for some reason. I know Benito Santiago because.

Of you. I was your own nine.

Yeah, because he needs a strap to go in between the numbers.

Childhood numbers you're going to remember, but uniform.

Numbers:.

Stadium.

Names.

Ballpark names. That one has changed because of sponsorship and naming.

Right stuff. People are stubborn with that. It's like, It'll always be this to me. That's the era we're in now.

I love stadium names, though. It'll always be Joe Robbie. I'm a huge fan of stadium names. What does that mean? It'll always be the.

Ftx Arena. What does that mean you're a huge fan of stadium names. I'm a huge fan of stadium names. You just like that they have names?

No, I like being like, Oh, the Golden One Center. Where do they play? Who plays in the Golden One Center? Sacramento Kings, light.

The beam, baby. Is that still a thing this year? The beam, are they still lighting it?

Where do the Pelicans play?

Is anyone know? It's still a thing. I don't think the FTX is not a thing anymore.

That giant FTX that they put on top of the Miami Heats arena that we thought was too heavy to ever get off of there, they evidently quietly got it off of there at some point. I don't know if it was when Sam Bankman-Fried.

Was on trial.

How do you do that.

Quietly, though? I don't know whether they did it in the middle of the night.

Is it Fried.

Or Freed? Freed.

I'm sorry, it's.

Not on the right.

Oh, he's Fried. He's Fried.

Yes, it's Fried.

I callGreg Colben.

Oh.

A four, I think, or 14? It was a four in there.

He's a four on the mow.

Yeah!

Colby. Dave Magdalene.

Oh.

10? 18?

18, yeah.

18 Mags? Yeah.

He was 10 at one point, I think.

I think the Marlin for sure, he was 18.

I'll get you. I don't know how, but I'm going to get you. Mike Lowe?

You started the segment- No.

He was not.

No, he was not. 19. Then Conine came back, and Conine, who was 19, had to be 18.

Remember that? Yeah, I screwed that up. Yeah.

And they played? That's right. At Joe Robbie. No, it was pro player at the time.

It was pro player at the time.

It was pro player.

For.

Several years after it closed.

You started the segment asking us whether anyone cares that O-Tany... Is O-Tanya to the Dodgers now.

Being reported, even.

Though O-Tanya is.

Threatening.

To make everyone.

A mystery team? I don't think it can be reported. No, Jason Hayward is signing with the Dodgers at this point. Last I checked DraftKings sportsbook, the Dodgers were the odds on favorite to get number 17, show hey, O-Tany, who won't be pitching, but he can do both pitching and hitting both at a very high level. They were a slight favorite. But this whole mystery aspect to it where Ohtani and his reps will hold it against you if it leaks out, means that there's probably some juicy underdog. So you can go after. There's some whispers out there, potentially the giants. It means.

He could never sign also.

You know who's a massive underdog?

Marlin's?

Well, they're not even there. They're lumped in his field. He's not an angel. That's over and done with. They had two of the greatest baseball players in the history of the game, certainly of this generation, on their team at the exact same time, did Jack shit with it. Ohtani is just going to leave the Angels and they're not going to get anything for it. That is crazy to me. It seems bad. It seems bad because you guys like to talk about Ohtani, and I understand he's a very good ball player.

They had a chance to do it at the deadline. They decided not to. They really bought that deadline. They thought this was the year.

Yeah, and everyone that they traded for, they ended up releasing.

I understand why the GM didn't want to do it because what return can you possibly get for Shohay O'Tany? But do you want to be the GM that just let Shohay O'Tany walk for nothing?

Well, but he's also now the GM that is openly saying, Hey, Mike Trout's available. It's going to take everything to get him, but he's available. You lose them all anyways, but you got nothing in return.

How does that thing not work? I don't know. Because the owner has spent so much money trying to make it work over there.

I hope someone told Ron Washington before he signed me.

Going on. They've just never had the pitching?

I mean, they don't have.

Other good players. Do they not have money for-Yeah, but.

They have two of the top five players.

They don't have.

Depth at either.

But they had Ohtani doing the pitching, too. It's puzzling. They brought in Joe Madden. They had all the pieces.

To make it work. How many more years of pitching are you going to get out of him, too? You got to think at some point, he's just going to become a hitter.

Well, he's not pitching this year. Mike said that earlier. He's not.

Pitching this year.

That's because of an injury.

Right. He's already 29. At some point, he's going to stop pitching.

How much money is he going to get?

I think this injury has really clouded that. We were looking at a $500 million player.

Before the-Didn't Juan Soto famously turned down an offer that he'll never get again.

$400 million, something like that.

You think he's going.

To get that?

Because he's also made available. He was at the Hurricane's basketball game the other day.

I think the best example of someone turning down money was Ian Desmond turning down like 90 million or something, and then he had a bad year and ended up getting 10 single-year deals.

Soto turned down $440 million.

Do you think.

He's going to get that? Reportedly. Yeah, he's only 25.

I've seen it in flashes with Soto.

No, you didn't see it in flashes. You saw it at the end when he played for the nationals. You just didn't see it for the Padres last year. Baseball is weird that way. He got.

Hot for one minute.

Yeah, no, he notoriously has been getting off to bad starts. His April and May weren't great, and then he was great at the end. He's going to be a free agent after this season.

The expectation is that he gets traded. But with Juan Soto, I've seen it as a national in Flashes, and I could understand the projections that this guy is going to be the greatest thing. But since I saw him in a world series that I barely paid attention to and recognized that he's good, I haven't seen the hype.

Well, that's something that happened to The Angels. After that world series, they immediately gave $230 million to Anthony Rendone.

Right.

But at.

The time, everyone was like, Good hitter. That just.

Didn't work out. I think it was a World Series MVP.

You can see the Rendone thing not working out for them. I mean, most of these baseball contracts don't end up working out, but it worked out for Ohtani, and it certainly worked out for Mike Troute, and yet they still can't win.

Tell me whether or not you think this can work out. We talk a lot around here for some reason about Adam driver. He's got a bit of an Ichibod Crane thing working where he is lanky for Hollywood. He looks giant and spidery compared to...

Ichibod what? Go ahead and look that up. Look up-.

What's his jersey number?

-look up.

Ichibod Crane and see what it is that comes up visually for you.

I'm on the Wikipedia and I still don't know what I'm.

Looking at. Are you having trouble with the spelling? You're looking at somebody who.

Is spinly. Is it.

A C or a K? Fictional character.

Is there a Silent Age in Ikebot? We are not making that, no of them.

Whatever. Once, Dougots, we are making it.

We've made it once. We didn't actually make it with a real human.

Michael- I.

Think a bot.

Okay, my bad.

You thought it was Ikebob?

Ikebob.

Big shot, Bob.

Michael Mand, Stugart, is having...

They are making.

A second Heat movie. For those of you who don't know, that is the first time that Pacino and De Niro were ever on the screen together at the same time. People were.

Clamoring- It was so exciting. It was.

It was.

It was a good movie. Right. And it's being remade now, but they're not going to remake it with De Niro playing the character. Who was it?

Mccauley? It's not a remake. It's a weird prequels sequel because they tell the story of the central characters in the first Heat, which were Pacino, De Niro, and Val Kilmer. You hear about the Pacino Pass, the De Niro Pass, and where it leaves off with Val Kilmer's character. So it really stretches across timelines. But Adam Driver has been confirmed by Michael Maen to be rumored for the role of McCauley.

The De Niro role, Stugat, and I don't think it becomes the same movie or can be the same movie unless you're having De Niro do it. But De Niro's last 10 years have just been playing mean grandpa all the time.

De Niro is a great actor. I'm conceding that. But over the last few, you can say, 25, 30 years, I haven't really seen the whole thing with De Niro.

Thank you for conceding it, though.

He was good at flowers.

It's very you.

I thought he was good at killing flowers. He was really good at that. This was a take that I guess I fleshed out before flowers is killing them out. But if you want to see an actor just totally nail, perfectly understated, and maybe he seems understated by comparison because he shares the scene with Al Pacino, goes freaking crazy. You can see in that movie. But Pacino is so good. The character of McCauley is so... It's the glue guy of the entire thing. It grounds it in reality. And Adam driver, I could see him as a fit for maybe the Pacino character because he is also very good at yelling. Oh, driver.

Great.

Yelling.

Pacino, it seemed in Heat, was very much trying to impress De Niro by shouting everything, including, Because he's got a great ass and scaring the hell out of Hank Azaria.

It's all he's got. It's his game.

Pacino's Screams. I'm almost done. It's a real page turner. I'm almost done with He, too. But it's almost like Pacino's performance just made the character Pacino. Kanan now is just Pacino. Almost in like in He 2, man has to write the character crazier because of how crazy Pacino made that character.

Pacino basically was shouting everything after Son of a Woman. Put it on the poll at Levitar's show. After Son.

Of a Woman, did Pacino just scream everything? It worked there. It did, and it's worked since as well. But what is this? Because Adam Driver, I don't know this video clip that you have talked about since last week. I don't have any context.

For what.

The clip is. It is. Is it press conference? What is Adam.

Driver.

Doing? Adam driver is working with Michael Mann, who in his own right is an insane filmmaker. I wish we could do a segment on the stories of Michael Mann shooting just Miami Vice alone. He is the method version of directing. He is just insane. But he worked with Adam driver on this upcoming Ferrari picture, and they did a special screening. Now that the strikes are over, Adam driver responded to one of the questions from the audience during the Q&A. What do you think about crushed scenes?

They look pretty harsh, drastic, and I must say, cheesy for me. What do.

You think about them?

Fuck you, I don't know.

Next.

Question. This is what NFL.

Coaches have.

To do. I think he might be Method acting McCauley already for Michael Mann.

I am giving NFL.

Coaches, Cart.

Blanch, the same way Mike gave, is willing to concede that De Niro is.

A good actor.

That's very nice.

Of you. I am willing to concede to NFL coaches. I will never get angry if you answer a question. Fuck you. Next question.

Don't.

Live a tard. Do you realize that for 30 minutes? Now, we might not have been doing good show, but we were doing show for about 30 minutes, and then you just decided to tell the story as if we were in the eating area.

Stugatz. Many refer to it as a kitchen.

Right. Eating area. Who calls it an eating area?

Nobody. Nobody.

I'm eating area. Was the bedroom? The sleeping area? Hang on. I got to go to the urinating area. I'll be right back. I'm eating area.

This is the Dan Levator show with the Stugaz. Dance. It's working.

What the fuck is that?

Dan, tonight's Monday Night Football, there's a something's got to give situation. I don't know if you guys want to cover that. Is there really? Yeah.

Guys, when De Niro got together with Pacino for a movie, it was like, I'm telling you, a Magic Jordan playing with Magic Johnson on the same basketball team. That's how I.

Anticipated it. And they didn't really share screen time all that much in heat. Right.

Just in the streets when they were shooting everyone, right?

But there was a... No, no, no. He had coffee with McCully half an hour ago. And then the scene at the end. He just keeps.

Screaming everything. That's all he does. I had coffee with McCully half an hour ago.

Can we talk to his area about how he experienced that Al Pacino scene where she's got a great and you could see Pacino scanning. Do I say great big ass? What do I say there? I'm like, I'm.

Not saying he got stuck. He got caught up in the air. As Zaria said, his real reaction was to be scared of Pacino and.

Just go, Oh.

They just left it in because he was legitimately scared. But yes, Pacino got caught up in.

The air on that in the middle.

Of his life. They're famously, it's gone viral. I still have my doubts about it, but I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood last night, and apparently the scene where Rick Dalton is playing with a flamethrower the first time, it's an actual outtake from the film where he's like, Can we do anything about the heat on a flamethrower? And DiCabrileau turns to his co-author who addresses him as Rick. It's a flamethrower.

It's.

Odd. Stugach just said something I never thought I.

Would hear, which is, Do we.

Really need.

More heat? Who's asking for it? You didn't.

Want to know what happened to Val Kilmer?

No.

Or maybe you did in 1997.

The separation is a bit much, right? I just never thought to myself after that movie, give me a second Heat. God. I had enough Heat.

I'm sure people... I never watched Heat when it happened. It was a double cassette. Couldn't get around to it. Then I finally got around to it several years later. I'm like, Holy shit. It's one of my favorite.

Movies ever. You are not the person that I ever have in any context saying, I don't want more heat, more general Heat of any kind.

Dan, some things just need to be left alone. Heat is one of those movies for me. There's no need to make a second one. Tango and Cash, it was great. Don't need a second one. Karate Kid, massive mistake making a second one. Didn't need it. The original was great.

I think they're blending universes. The Jackie Chan remake and the Ralph Maccio versions are coming togetherget out of here. -the Karate Kid movie.

Get out of here. But what do you do with Val Kilmer? You don't want to see Val Kilmer in another movie.

Do you? No, Val Kilmer, clearly, because of his condition, cannot be in another film. But his character picks up right where you leave off at the end of Heat, which in the book is probably my favorite of the storylines. So far, I haven't finished it yet, but I'm almost there. You just.

Have a different actor playing the same character, and we're pretending that it's... I don't like that. Yeah.

I mean, we do that with all the James Bond.

That's different.

We did that tototally different. We did that with Don Cheedon. I guess War Machine is a different guy now.

There are certain movies where you need more. Rambo is one of them. You need more Blood. Rocky is another one. You need him to win.

He eventually wins. Well, when it's called First Blood, you're almost inviting. Yeah, you know there's more.

Yeah, there's got to be- More blood. A second drop of blood.

There has to be more blood.

Did Chris say that this is something's got to give game tonight on Monday and April? You heard that right. Because that's usually when it's good teams.

Minnesota and Chicago?

It's almost like something has to give because someone has to do something.

This is gambling related where something's got.

To give. It's usually something's got to give at a three and a half line.

According to ESPN stats and info, there has never been a week during the Super Bowl era that favorites covered the spreadspread in 13 games. This week, NFL favorites are 12 and three against the spread. Wow. So if Minnesota, who is favored by three tonight and 75 % across multiple sportsbooks is on Minnesota minus three, that looks like something's got to give, Dano.

Mike Ryan, over the weekend, sent me a stat. He was moving.

On from that stat?

Okay. I could not believe what's so, which is that favorites in college football that were favored by double digits and in the top 10, this doesn't sound like it could be right to me. It sounded like a made-up stat. 79 and.

Two is.

What a lack of upset.

Straight up. But there was, I think you can make an argument that this is one of the worst seasons in college football, and I'll concede, there's no such thing as a bad college football season. But the thing that makes college football so great is the upset. There was none. The only time a team got upset is when an ACC team was number 10.

Auburn and Washington State were so close to doing that this week and so very close. Not covering. Mike's not saying covering. They're not 79 and two against the spread. Straight upset. But you just didn't have a double-digit underdog.

Beating a top.

10 team this year.

In the 81.

Times it happened.

Other than twice.

It wasn't a double-digit dog this weekend. Louisville in Kentucky. Kentucky was a single-digit dog. But I was surprised that it was that overwhelming because I'm generally expecting college kids on Saturdays to behave very often like college kids to be inconsistent.

There's more parity. Programs have come out of the blue to be good quickly. There just hasn't. By the way, speaking about college football, because it's crazy that we have something that you can dub as the worst college football season ever when the sport was totally transformed in September by Coach Prime. I don't understand. I was told that college football's landscape had changed forever by Colorado. It doesn't seem that way. So, guys, let me ask you a question real quick. Which of Coach Prime's six straight losses to close the season would you dub the most transformative?

I don't know the six that he lost to do. I stopped paying attention after 60 minutes went.

Out there. Mike has enjoyed doing this over the last two months, and I have explained to him a number of different times that Deion Sanders won the season in the very first game.

A huge win over.

Five-win TCU.

We seem to have, but we forgot about it to Mike's point.

It was a massive win over five-win TCU. Then he followed that up with a massive win over five-win Nebraska. What bothered me so much in the moment, and I think.

Dionne, will- That's a good year for Nebraska.

Well, they haven't made a bowl game in eight years.

Matt Rule getting it done.

I don't know how Matt Rule invented a way. If you see some of the quarterbacks, they went against you. He invented a way to not make a bowl game this year. But what bothered me so much about the Dionne thing is that it was just all too much too soon. It was too much from a bunch of people that had found their college football boys that would never talk about college football, yet they felt qualified to dub. I'm lumping Dan in on this because he's one of these Northeastern media types that are just making takes about Dion.

Saying- In the south?

Yeah. You were born in Jersey. I'm lumping you in. What were we doing then? If you look back at.

The takes- Finally.

They were ranked, though. -if you look back at the takes, and I was the bad guy for saying, Let's pump the brakes, guys. It's still a question as to whether or not he'll get over three and a half wins. These wins are over not good teams. I was laughed out and I was called a hater, which I don't understand the ammunition I gave you. Yeah, I looked directly into the camera and said, I hate Deion Sanders and I hate Colorado fans. But other than that, I've been pretty fair when it comes to Deion Sanders. It's going to take a minute. You guys put him on this pedestal. Thankfully, you have self-awareness to not knock the guy down. But you acted like assholes in September.

Mike said that it takes a minute, guy, with this Miami stuff.

It does take a minute.

It does. It took a minute to get to that take also.

It did. It took several months. But I was rational about it. We all said, Well, Sunny Dykes fix it in a year. Sunny Dykes here, too, misses a bowl game. It does, traditionally, outside of say, for a few outliers, it happened to nick Saban. It takes time to build programs. You were all crowning his ass and doing broadcast from Boulder, Colorado like this guy was going to.

Be running shit. But that's what happened.

They kept it close against USA. Usa is garbage this year.

They're bad. Garbage. Right.

What I'm saying is maybe next time this pops up, and it may be as soon as next year, slow the.

Fuck down. But who are you yelling at?

I'm yelling at the established media that thinks they can just venture into this seedy world of college football and talk about it with authority. You think Mike Wilbon knows what's going on in the pack? Well, he doesn't. Hes. He doesn't. Wow.

Pat McAfee was buying into the Colorado stuff.

Everybody was. Everybody is culpable.

Dan is culpable.

But I took out 60 minutes before the season started. You weren't with me then.

Now you're with me? No, I understand how it's fun. It's great to make a 4-Win team into a national title contender. Do you realize the prices that you guys had for futures with Heisman?

Hold on a second, Mike. At the time that we were talking about this, we said again and again, they do not have the interior line play to.

Be on.

The.

Field with these major programs.

I.

Said that. I said that. Mike, I said the same thing.

You took my take. I said that.

I was assaulted for my beliefs and my convictions. I was made.

Into a million. Nobody was arguing they had a great offensive line.

I was not arguing on behalf of them being a champion. I was arguing on behalf of them fixing what was one of the worst programs I'd ever seen and having.

A full stadium. Okay.

Yeah, they have a full stadium because the Media Machine made it. It's a four-win team. You didn't fix Jack shit. Your whole argument was economical. Indiana had $20 million to pay their coach to not coach anymore because they're in the big ten. Everybody makes money. If you.

Make money.

You get fired for that. The barometer for success is, get this in big breaking news, success.

He hasn't had it yet. No, it is not. In the current age of college football. It is relevancy. It is not success.

It's are.

You.

Relevant? Okay, well, I'll check back. It's November. Is Deion Sanders relevant? Because he just lost two four-star commits in the last week.

He lost that quarterback, right? Yeah.

Is he relevant? We will see how relevant he is when his son's not.

The quarterback because his son and Travis Hunter.

Were their.

Best.

Players. His DC just quit on him, which is fine. His DC wasn't great.

But Dan, you have to.

Give him- His big move was giving Pat Schumer playcalling duties. On an offense, that was actually working.

You have to give him this, though, like Colorado State, game day going out there. Perhaps we should have thought about that before we did it.

You guys were running him.

After a 1.1.

Win against Colorado.

I'm just kidding. It was fun.

I disagree. It was fun.

Yeah, for the week, it was great. It was fun. There was two different networks around there.

It's all content, man. This is all that matters.

It's content. I like too bad teams. No, no, it's all fun and games, and it's all content until you did that to Colorado. But who did? You gas them up. You gas them up and you were.

Insulting everybody. I'd take my hat off when I shake someone's head.

Remember that? Yeah, you guys gas them up. They improved, and you've made them feel bad about their season. Shame on you.

But those weeks, they were the biggest team. The media made it that way, but yeah, that was the fun thing at the moment. They beat TCU. But College Game Day goes to try to capture the fun thing at the moment each week. That was the fun thing.

At the moment. They were at James Madison a couple of weeks ago.

By the way- They were at Duke earlier in this season, which feels ridiculous in hindsight.

But they went there knowing we need to get this out of the way now because I think.

That they knew- Did say they were like, Look, we won't be back here. It's now or never.

Then they went right back. I mean, Fox was at the Colorado game for three consecutive weeks.

They had the game, though, Mike.

They fed the monster.

You got juice. You got juice. Mike is so mad.

They were right those three weeks, man.

That Game Day and Fox aren't in the parking lot outside of Hard Rock Stadium.

The Rock.