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See stores for details. Mike, do you have the music back there? I'm just asking, do you have it? It's just a question. Do you have the music?

I have the music. Are you going to rent?

I don't know. But I just I thought it might be a good idea to have it playing faintly in the background at the start of the national show as if it's off in the distance somewhere. Because this Boston team I mean, Mike, we were tired at the end of last night. We did a watch party. We had a lot of fun. And Mike immediately went to the Boston radio station just, you know, looking for tears and clam chowder.

Yeah.

Are there a difference? Do you go to both postgame shows like there's WTI and the sports hub is one of those two places doing it better than the other sports?

Really? Yeah, sports. Adam Jones in particular. I guys I guys in absolutes are he's firing people. Oh, it's so great. I had no idea so many people like Tyler Hero coming out of college. This is incredible. I don't want to fire Ange for not trading too spot. Let me be let me be clear about this, OK? Hurting Boston just as much just as much as the fact that they think they have a better team and they're down three.

One is a white boy. Did it to you like that is hurting Boston just as much. They love Kelly Olynyk when he's there they hate Kelly Olynyk when he's gone Tyler Hero is somebody. Of course they thought their dude named Gordon was going to be Tyler their man.

Our white boy is better than their white boy and he's younger now. My man Adam Jones he's like You all sound ridiculous calling for Gordon Hayward to be running the offense. You all think he's a much better player than he is. He's a JAG. Just another guy. Oh, he called him a JAG man. Oh, my God.

I was wondering what that meant. I saw that on Twitter. I'm like, oh, I don't know.

That's just another guy. That is when things in Boston have escalated to a poison, terrible, angry place. When your postgame host is saying he hopes they lose on Friday, so is football Sunday doesn't go on, doesn't get ruined. And he calls Gordon Hayward, who he was so excited about a few years ago, a JAG off just another guy.

Speaking of Jags, incidentally, and I'm curious because I don't know this off the top of my head, maybe you guys have memorized the box score or I imagine. You guys have watched a lot of sports enter. But there were times last night when I asked everybody, hey, has Kemba done anything or is Jaylen Brown done anything because of how quiet I felt their nights were? And then the answer was, they got 15. Somebody got 17. Do you guys know how many points or baskets were scored by the heat other than by four guys, like do you know this without looking at the box?

I know Solomon Hill had a very loud zero point box score.

Well, but do you guys let's think about this for a second. If I ask you, outside of the four guys. Right, if I ask you, how many baskets did you get from anybody outside of the four guys? What's your answer to that?

Ten.

Fifteen, I think I'd guess like four or five so I can remember like one Iguodala basket.

I'm let's see here. Can anyone remember another basket by someone other than Iguodala. Duncan Robinson did not score. Also I don't think there were any free throws from these same guys. I think all the free throws were coming from the four guys from Dragic, Butler, Hero and Bam.

Yes, it felt like it felt a little bit like the box scores probably should have looked when it was LeBron, Wade and Bosh and like Joel Anthony because Mike Miller was hurt and Udonis Haslem wasn't playing for whatever reason back when they had the skeletal remains of a roster, because all of the guys, the big guys had taken up all the salary cap money. I feel like I feel like Jae Crowder. He forgot how to play basketball last night. But I remember saying that Jae Crowder was one of something from the field.

So that's one of the baskets right there. Only three other people scored, so Jae Crowder had three points, Duncan Robinson had three points and Iguodala had three points. And Doug and Robinson, his three points were all free throws. All right. So they got to the basket.

They got two other baskets saying they got two other baskets from anyone other than the four guys and just the three free throws from from Duncan Robinson. And they beat you Boston. They beat you with four dudes last night.

They beat you because we saw the greatest rookie performance in NBA Conference Finals history. From its perspective, it's been too long. We might have found a superstar here in Tyler Hero. That is not a fluke. Thirty seven points in the Eastern Conference finals is not a fluke. That kid is the real deal. And I apologize for my reactionary draft night takes because I saw the suit he was wearing. I nailed it. I was wrong. Kid's incredible.

This is also on the heels of a mean saying that he doesn't have the ceiling of Devin Booker. And I don't know if Devin Booker has ever had thirty seven points in a conference finals, by the way. He's never been.

Who has he played a playoff game? We have a big three overnight. Got a big worry, Goran.

What Stan said before the series, it's looking pretty good as analysis after four games when he's saying that he likes the three, some of Butler Hero and Bam, he did not Gayborhood Dragic in the threesome almost as much as he likes the threesome of Tatum and Brown. And I guess who would it be. Smart I guess. Yeah.

Yeah probably Kemba or Kemba Kemba excuser. Yeah it would be Kemba that he like that threesome and then he talked about the heat being tougher and I know a lot of people like to dismiss that and I know a lot of people are done with these conversations about culture. But what you saw last night, when they're getting even on a possession where they don't score, where they're getting four offensive rebounds, where they're doing all of those things late in the game that are, you know, gritty and and body, you know, body giving to causes like they're playing extraordinarily hard.

It'd be hard it'd be hard to find a lot of Miami teams worthy of the applause of this city more than this one.

They're playing hard. They're playing together. It's fun to watch the cities, certainly getting behind it. Heroes, just what I just said. It's so amazing what he did last night to have thirty seven points in a playoff game. He did that at the age of twenty. LeBron did do it till he was twenty one. Durant did do it till he was twenty two. He can't buy a drink. I mean think about that. He can't legally buy.

It's not going to have to buy a drink for the rest of his life in this town.

This is why I tried to get out ahead of this. And I was telling you guys that you guys kind of just dismissed me. You can't be saying these people are so tough and they're greedy and they got guts and they're doing it hard and like really doing all this, like the bubble, it's like what I mean, all this toughness, all this grit, all this grime is in a bubble.

How is this possible? That's why this needed to be called this fear of death or something. I'm telling you right now, you can have something called the bubble that's protecting everything. You know, what's the bubble? It's so safe, but the bad things are happening inside the bubble.

He's right about that fear of doubt. He did try to get out what wasn't there? The sphere was created to avoid death. Right.

Wasn't it also like to keep the death in death stays here? Did you have the kingdom come out in the name?

Didn't you have it being an iron sphere of death as well, which is which is even better, actually an iron sphere of death?

Yes, Graham, I'm looking at this BOCSKOR man, Mike. So right about Solomon Hill plus two on the night with zero all zeros across the board except two personal fouls. Tyler here it was actually minus four. Yeah. So we think Solomon Hill had a better game. I'm saying plus minus is bullshit sometimes. Oh, look at stats.

Guys has been telling you this for years and if test I test, that's all you need.

I love Roy's reaction upon seeing Solomon Hill because Solomon Hill is the pandemic for all of us in terms of how he came out there looking physically. It was broken down. Frederick Douglass, are we allowed to say the joke that you said to a mean in the chat yesterday? I think it's funny and I think it's allowed, but the line of the night is great.

But, Roy, I defer to you on whether or not that's allowed, because I would assume I was surprised you didn't just make it on the call because it's funny.

Yeah, I don't think you guys can say it. Unfortunately, I was hoping I mean, would my people can you say it? My favorite line was mean saying he looks like I did two weeks ago. What I mean, that really was Tyler here.

Put that on the pole, give him a bigger surprise of the night. Tyler hero scoring more points than any rookie since Magic Johnson or just Solomon Hale getting in the game because it was totally disorienting to all of us.

Why are we doing there? I don't know. I don't get that one at all. Solomon Hill playing Was it was it Hale or Williams for the Celtics?

Both guys. I think it appeared they were not expecting to ever get in a playoff game because they had nothing on the back of their jerseys. Yeah, Williams actually appeared in Game seven against and he played well. And he did. Yes, he can hit a couple of shots for them. Solomon Hill, it was like a UFO landed. I had I did not consider the big adjustment was just four minutes of Solomon Hill apart to the tune of plus two to one possession game.

He made a difference. You really knew the game that you won by three.

I mean, don't get me started on why it was a one possession game. Thank you for the show, Tony. Brothers in Scott Foster. You did not disappoint.

So how are the calls last night in Boston?

How much of that did you someone called Pat Riley The X Factor, which I found, you know, interesting because he's in his 70s wearing a mask upside down and really doesn't have anything to do with what we're seeing on the court right now inside the sphere of death. I think that really frustrated Jayson Tatum. He played excellent in the second half. Oh, man. Where that takes flying in that first half because I was bad as bad. And they lose the game because he wasn't just not scoring.

And nineteen turnovers Boston fans and I think their hosts and their fans are right when they complain on sports talk radio when they say we're not playing well, they're not even sure Miami is good. And I can't really rebuff that all too much. Even though you have what Miami's done in the bubble and they've been more impressive than anybody from a wins and losses perspective, but they feel like Miami isn't playing well. And I was a huge fan. I come away from these games.

I feel like we're not playing our best game and we're still winning.

Doesn't that have to do with the defense, though, because you say Miami's not playing? Well, what? They have six turnovers last night, seven turnovers. I'm doing that. I don't know. But I doubt it's double digit turnovers like they were super careful with the basketball. They had eight turnovers last night.

I mean, eight turnovers. Mike, you're not allowing any easy baskets. You got eight turnovers. How many? Just ask yourself this. How many dunks did you see that weren't off of great passes from somebody where Tice's dunking just because, you know, somebody got him open?

And by the way, the Celtics had nineteen. So, I mean, that's Big Mike at a three point game. That's a massive no.

I we're all struggling to sort of come to grips with what we're watching because it's unprecedented in a in a sphere of death, which we've we've never seen before. We keep trying to apply what we saw during the regular season pre pandemic to this playoffs. And that's where we're airing because this is an all new season, you see, with the growth and development of Tyler Hero, that is a year to year jump. That is not a jump that you see within the season.

This is a whole new year. If Miami were playing like this from a new regular season from game. One of eighty to no one would be surprised by these results. I think we got to stop attaching what we saw in the regular season when they're losing to Charlotte, to the team that's now up three one, a win away from the NBA finals.

The narrative on SportsCenter last night was this series isn't over. We've already seen in this playoffs the Denver come back from three one that the Celtics are playing these games extremely tough. I was a little unhappy with how that everyone was just like this series could still easily go seven, which it could. But I just wanted more people to be buying into the heat. And it seems like people are like we're talking about thinking that this is flukey and not the series.

It feels closer than three one Riley before the before the playoffs started, OK, before this series, he was talking about mediæval moments. And Riley traditionally is not someone who trusts young players very much. And what he was saying was paramount to this team. Going anywhere in the bubble was what are our young players going to be in the medieval moments? And Tyler Hero, good God.

Like, good God. I mean, you can have whatever your quibbles are with Duncan Robinson, but that's what it's supposed to look like when it's the first time there. And you just realize the intensity has gotten ratcheted up and there are a bunch of dudes out there, like, for example, Iguodala, who didn't do much in that game, but when he was under the basket with the ball, knew enough to throw it out to Goran Dragic in a spot where all of his years with the Warriors were fine.

The Corner three guy and Goran Dragic hit an enormous three on Iguodala making a very calm play in one of those medieval moments And they threw one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA on him.

They're like This is Brad Stevens said what Tyler Hero did He was ridiculously good last night. Maybe they waited a little too long to put Marcus Smart on Tyler hero Marcus Smart ends up fouling out Tyler hero body Marcus Smart. He's just unguardable. It's amazing to say and witness it's who could have imagined this who no one loves mediæval moments more than Riley.

The fair to say he's always talking about the Med.. I don't even know when that is. When was it?

I don't I don't think it was in high school. I don't think it's fair to say that that medieval moment that no one knows more about them than Pat Riley.

I did say before this series started that there was going to be a Tyler herel game. And I was kind of mocked, a little mocked. I just want to say I just want to throw that out there for the people.

Well, I will say this very, very interesting to me in what it is that you're watching last night, because all of us can marvel and be amazed by young guy, Babyface kid in that situation, putting up thirty seven points. But what I would add to that and the reason that I was impressed by that beyond that point total is no, no, no, wait a minute. They're up to one. This is a critical, pivotal game.

Everything's going to run now through Hero late in the game, fourth quarter and one bleeping turnover like one.

They're turning to Marcus Smart on. They're turning the ball over 19 times and the whole thing's running through hero. And he's making passes and he's making cuts. And it's one damn turnover. It's like, you've got to be kidding me. It's one thing to make a bunch of shots. That's one thing. But everything running through you, that defense, which is a very good defense, which is a long defense and one turnover, it jumped off the screen that Miami had nothing else and they needed Tyler Hero in that moment to be the guy.

And Chris, credit to you for nailing the Tyler Hero game, but if you would have told me the Tyler hero game is seventeen with ten in the fourth quarter, I would have said, wow, that's a Tyler hero game. Dude had thirty seven, right.

That's really what I was just calling out, is I think I thought he would help out late in the fourth quarter. I did not expect, you know, him to be Reggie Miller.

I'm glad we got in that. You were right. It's very important. I'm proud of you. Here's the other thing. Eight of ten from the field for Tyler Harro on when he was creating his own shot. It's the highest percentage this postseason. I mean, it's he's twenty years old that he did that last night. And that spot is crazy.

I think the obvious place we need to go now, right. Is this series is a wrap. So you make it to the finals, you win the finals. Who's the NBA finals MVP on this team will go around the horn and figure that out next. No, we won't.

But I like that idea. There are so many great heroes that. Holy shit, when he starts dribbling, kids got pretty decent handles when he starts dribbling and it shows I'm going to get separation here with my handles, he gave me a goosebump quarter after the game last night.

He said I was not the best player on the court last night, but I could play with anybody. I was like, Jesus, Jimmy Butler, love you.

Did you hear what Jimmy Butler said after the game? People were trying to give him credit. He wasn't having it. He was interrupting people. It's like Tyler's been my guy all year long. That was that was Tyler. I think even the Miami Heat kind of were surprised. Thirty seven.

How do we pump the brakes on Tyler? Because three other players have done this at the age of twenty or younger. Thirty plus points in a playoff game. The three are Magic Man. Derrick Rose. Yeah.

And Brandon Jennings. Yeah, I remember that. And I mean, you know, you never know what kind of player Jennings would have turned into. We're not for that injury because I think same thing. And he's probably still coaching the Pistons if Brandon Jennings doesn't have his Achilles.

But Brandon Jennings did it in front of fans.

Yeah, I know. This is this is bizarre, unprecedented, especially for the Miami Heat to turn to a twenty year old to witness a pivotal game five. I don't my hands are in the air. How can you talk about this without just being, like, jaw dropped? And in all because of how incredible that performance is. It's something you don't see. You don't see it.

I feel like every time the anybody like breaking down any game talks about how Tyler Hero is just so he's he's so confident. He's overly I think she'd just be like, he's white. Tyler Hero is white and he's doing all this.

That would be so great if that's how they did it and how confident he is out there. It's like he's just really good at Chris.

You realize how much better the analysis would be if what they were doing last night was, you know, oh, eight for ten on creating his own shot. And he's white. Like, you don't normally see this from a white guy.

They talk about it as if it they put it on the same pedestal as Marcus Smart defending him.

He has to go through so much the the thing that is exciting about this. Right, because I told you. When the postseason, soon after the postseason started that the heat, think of him because whenever you see a young player, you tried to do the comps on him, like what?

I still am looking for the one on Jokic the only one I've heard so far on Jokic where there's a comp is that makes sense to me is Magic Johnson after he retired when he came back and he was really thick and all of a sudden he was controlling the game in a way that was slower.

That's the only way that playing in the post allowed it was weird.

That's the only comp that made any sense to me.

But when I think of Tyler Hero. The Miami Heat have said because he warship's Devin Booker and the Miami Heat have said to him, like, set your sights higher than that, we think that you can be better than Devin Booker.

Devin Booker is a good comp and many people will laugh you out of the room before last night on the comp until you go back and look at what Devin Booker was at this age. And then you say to yourself, after seeing what you saw last night, you say to yourself, I'm allowed to get excited about this because honest to God, and I'm going to be careful about this, because I want you to understand in the audience that I am not saying this.

This is not the way that I think about this. But when you look at this and people make a leap to what Steph Curry was at this age. I would not make that leap. It's not a leap I would make, but Devin Booker was ridiculous before last night. I think a lot of people thought that was ridiculous and it ain't that ridiculous. And if you want to go and get excited, so excited that you start hyperventilating and start thinking about growth from this guy and his game in a way that extrapolates what happened last night to the more range, more skills, because he's playing you know, this is not his prime.

Obviously, this is not his athletic stars going to grow as a player.

And Devin Booker inside the bubble was insane. If Tyler Hero can become a scorer, that Devin Booker is, look out because Tyler Hero is already a better passer than Devin Booker. He's a much better rebounder than Devin Booker. He's he's an incredible rebounder for his position. And keep in mind, he's white and he's he's a he's a willing defender. He's not a bad defender. Yes. He'll get he'll make rookie mistakes. And he's not really being tested in this series so much or even the last series for his position.

But I think he's going to continue to improve.

Is it if I understand why it is that you would be hyperventilating with enthusiasm about this in any Miami Heat fan was because there's very little to do God's more exciting in sports for a franchise than a young treasure than having two of them have been having a young guy that you feel very strongly about. But whatever bamboo ceiling is, I think it's different than Tyler Heroes ceiling. Like, I don't know what bamboo ceiling is, but I think it looks something like what you're presently seeing from Bam, which is all star good.

The hope with Tyler is that it is something that can exceed that. I would just say, though, no matter what Mike Ryan's enthusiasm, the phrase willing defender, I love it. I will defend her no matter what your excitement is. A willing defender is a tepid compliment.

I mean, he's being paid to play defense. He should be willing I mean, for young players, especially that age in the NBA, that that have this stroke on the offensive side. Willing defenders, actually a lot to ask for. Devin Booker was not a willing defender, is still kind of not a willing defender. I want to reserve how good of a defender I actually think Tyler Hero can be because the offensive ceiling is Devin Booker. But the comps that we were hearing coming out of Miami was Klay Thompson, and that's the best to a shooting guard, arguably in the league.

I think Bam could still expand his game. I'm with Dan. There's much more upside for Tyler, like unknown as to what what he could potentially be in the NBA. But I think the cool thing for Heat fans is you have these two young stars and free agents. It's Miami, it's Riley. It's this organization with two young stars. You had Jimmy Butler. You have them cheap. You still have the plan of twenty, twenty one and you have them on rookie contracts.

You can extend them for bird rights. You are still going to have value. It is absolutely massive to have to hit on draft picks like this because this is the NBA draft. You don't hit from 13 and 14. Pat Riley doesn't give a shit about the NBA draft and then is sort of like a light bulb went up. Hold on. I can develop Tyler Johnson into that contract. I can develop Hassan Whiteside into that contract. I can resurrect the careers of James Johnson and Dion Waiters.

What can I do with players coming out of Kentucky?

I think it's fair to say this is more exciting than the Big Three, right? Because you do the big three, there is a short window there. Here, it's limitless. I mean, to go on forever.

But was it a short window? I thought people thought that that was going to go on for four years.

Well, that was LeBron song is so good and so cheap that you can have him for decades. I mean, you know, it's bigger than LeBron. Why are you doing that?

Just because you're hearing enthusiasm from us. So you have to come out and pull your people out and urinate on everything.

That's not urination. You say and you say his pee is made of gasoline.

I mean, I'm the one that has them winning the finals. I'm the one that wants to do the series MVP of the next year. You guys the guys are like, oh, you're going to lose to the Bucs, they're going to lose the Celtics, they're going to lose over to medieval times. Did you just throw up? They dropped the pan.

Did you just throw a frying pan and your enthusiasm? Did you throw a frying pan? What happened? Your dog knocked something over again. Yeah, I don't know anything.

Just getting ready for, like, identi. That's what's happening. But I feel like what Billy is saying is this thing because they're so young, it could go on forever. And you're right where LeBron I mean, anyone who believed that LeBron was going to stay here for eight or nine seasons, I mean, what a buffoon he said is not that seven. Not eight. Yeah.

Yeah. And you believe them. And that's on you. It's not a LeBron. I told you the first day he was going back to Cleveland.

Full circle. Billy, forgive me. What a weird I told you so, Billy, forgive me for misunderstanding you. It's just I wasn't expecting sincere enthusiasm from you.

I mean, I wasn't expecting. You'd like to be genuinely hopeful. I thought that what you were doing is being sarcastic about the general enthusiasm around the conversation and so you double down on everything with this team can be together forever.

No one will age. And this is just how it will feel throughout the rest of the time.

Like crazy to think so. I thought you were being sarcastic. I didn't. And I still am not sure.

And I'm pretty sure that if I had to guess that you were being sarcastic, optimistic at the end of Godfather. Hello, Donnis. Yeah. Keep them guessing, Billy. I mean, I guess I guess at this point, I mean, we got to know the guy's a loser. He can't even make it to the ECF.

I mean, he's a nice little role player to surround Theiler hero. You know what's funny about this, though? Because it's a funny thing to say, but it wasn't. But maybe a couple of games ago where we all would have agreed in consensus that you trade either BAM or hero or maybe even both if you go back a few months.

Oh you trade for Joel Embiid Joel Embiid Great both for Joe and now now now you're looking at all you guys that wanted to trade Tyler here own band for Russell Westbrook effort.

I mean you wouldn't do it. Bam made one of the great defensive plays in the history of the NBA. Tyler Hero just had the best game for a twenty year old ever. I know.

But in keeping with Mike's theory here that like if you were doing the logic ladder on the idea of, well, if I could do this with Tyler Johnson, imagine what I can do with the Kentucky guys, then the next step on that is, well, if I could do that with the fourteenth pick in the draft, imagine what I could do with the guy who was the first pick in the draft.

I mean, I don't I don't really see and I don't really see Pat Riley walking away when he's on a heater at the craps table.

Do you know what if he wins the win? But if he beats LeBron and the Lakers in the NBA finals, that's a pretty good spot for Riley to walk. OK, we are getting way ahead of ourselves, but five games away. I've seen so many profiles on Pat Riley, some of them, I think he has a garage full of cars. Thank you. Leave. No, they won the title. I think it would be done.

I feel like he wants to keep his like, I don't know. I feel like he'll just be like, I'm going to begin the process now of leaving. OK, maybe OK for here distention out here.

Why would you to go with the authority of Riley Wade if he wins with a twenty year old winning the game and Bam Adebayo at twenty three years old making the plays that he's making at that point you start talking maybe not forever talk but oh this could actually be a run here. What you what you guys should know I did not believe him when he said it OK. But he was absolutely saying to people when he thought LeBron was going to resign here.

That he would have left then and said, I've left this thing in good hands, in good shape, if that was real and honest, and I say that be him being honest to himself because I did not believe him, I believe he will stay there forever, too much if his identity is tied up in this. The dude has been in the finals. This is not a joke.

Six decades, this across six decades as a player, coach and executive. He has been around the finals. And of course, I think he's greedy. I think if he sees young players, he's going to say, well, how good can this thing be? But if your measurement is I really want to get to those those cars in Malibu, if I really want to get to Malibu and I need to leave this thing in good hands, this would be a good time to leave.

You beat the Lakers, you beat LeBron, you're handing it off to Spoelstra, Tyler Herot, bam, Jimmy Butler. Yeah, this is a good time.

No, nobody nobody outside of Miami thinks Miami wins that series. Nobody outside of Miami thinks that Miami has a reasonable chance in a series against LeBron Lakers because it would be the the Chauncey Billups Pistons winning the title like it's not nobody in this country outside of people rooting for the Heat think that Miami can beat LeBron.

Now, if the Heat end up playing the Nuggets and beating them in the finals, Riley probably sticks around for another five years. Right. I've got to take spelled with small caps, large caps, small caps, large caps. Remember when we were all in agreement that if Jimmy Butler is your best player, you can't win an NBA title? No, I thought about that.

I thought that you were. Yeah. What if Tyler Hero is. I agree. Still not. But I don't think I don't think the Miami Heat can win a title with Jimmy Butler being their best player.

And as soon as this year, he may not have to be, but when he's your third best player like you look at least in this series, because Jimmy Butler hasn't been any any kind of special in this series.

No, he hasn't been. Look at the smiles on all of your faces. This radio is so much different than the way Boston radio felt last night.

Was Riley in the finals that like twelve years old, he was a player in 72, a player? I think in seventy seven. I was born in seventy two, Chris.

So player and seventy two.

That's for ninety. No not for decades. Thank you.

So whatever.