You're listening to DraftKings Network. David Samson arrives and asks correctly, why is Stugat surrounded by so many plants? Many people are made uncomfortable by how cheap and flimsy the fabric is on my Fred Flintstone costume. Mike Ryan said to me in a way that felt really vulnerable, Calvin Klein, huh?

Can I say something?

Dan, you pull off Fred Flintstone.

Yeah, you do.

You really do. I mean, body type, hair, the hair color, I mean, it's working.

Can I get a yabba dabba doo?

-cubs natural. Hair on the shoulders. Armwidth. Just thick, general blocky thickness.

Thickness, yeah. In sports and sports media, it's Berman, the former Hall of Fame guy that would go around and tell them people, they're in the Hall of Fame and you.

Are your feet covered in dirt right now?

I am barefoot. I am committed to the character. Billy is indeed ruling with an iron fist or attempting to.

Look at this. Attempting to. -stugatz has a.

Shirt on. Yeah, Stugatz. What do you mean? -stugatz is supposed to pay off. David, to answer your question, why all the plans? Stugatz has said, and we're holding him to it mostly Iron-fisted Billy, that in this first hour, he will go shirtless to endure a grid of death punishment. But he looks thicker than I do right now because it seems like he is covered in winter gear. He's the opposite of shirtless. He's wearing more fabric on top of him than I've ever seen.

It's been a long season day. It's chilly outside today. It is. I mean, you felt it, right? It's not.

Chilly.

Outside today.

What do you mean? Why aren't you shirtless?

All right, I'll take it off.

Wow. Okay, there it is.

Yeah, take the sweater off.

Okay. I'll take it off. It's like he has four sweaters on. While he's doing this, David Samson, Nothing Personal, I'm here to tell you again, what John Skipper do is the best sports business ever you will find anywhere, and nothing personal, covers a lot of terrain that not many people in sports are covering. Samson, what are you looking at now? Are you wearing a scarf?

It's cold out, like I said. I mean, you feel it? Everyone feels it.

It's not cold. You don't give it. He sees on the sweaterline, take off the next hoodie. How many.

Things is he wearing? I have a scarf on from USA Soccer. This is what they send you when you're the world's number one soccer fan.

Well, take that off and the hoodie that you have off. Hoodie? Yeah, you're wearing a hoodie.

What is that? I've never seen someone undress this slowly.

We're going to get all of it. He has put a lot of plants in here to cover. I don't think any of this is going to work. I've just- What hoodies are you wearing? Well, I've seen a pouch and it wasn't on fabric. I saw something jiggle under there.

Take that shirt off, too.

This shirt? How many shirts do you have on?

Cold outside, Danny.

-it's 79 degrees. This is like teenagers playing strip poker.

It is an unpleasant way to play this.

You shouldn't be playing with teenagers.

I am sorry. Good? That is what you said. A questionable legacy, Joe Zagaki has made a ruling. We'll talk to him later in the show. He came in hot with opinions today. Okay, we're going to lose this last shirt. Christ, man. How many more shirts does he have on?

A closet. Is this segment.

Over, yes? You should have heard him negotiating last night via text. You should have.

Heard-before the last shirt comes off, I'll give you one more chance, Dan, okay? You could have this on Max, okay? We debut on Max. I could do this on Max, or I could do it today. It's a light day in terms of viewership when you talk about the day before Thanksgiving, so it's up to you last chance. Just take off your shirt, dude.

You want to negotiate. He's been trying to do this for about 12 hours.

I have two.

More shirts. We did a poor job of announcing.

Your stomach came out, and we already saw the gag.

Don't put that hat on.

What's the gag? What's the gag, Billy?

Just wait for it. Oh, wow. Oh, he's cut up.

He's cut up. He's cut up.

We're one shirt away, Dan.

You might want to date the deal. Max, you're being denied this debuting on what used to be HBO Max.

I mean, I'll give you two maxes in exchange for today. How about that?

Take.

The shirt off. Just take it off. A max during debut week and a max later. Take the shirt off.

How about that? Take the shirt off.

It is. It's just lagging. The whole thing is lagging.

Oh, it's lagging.

Let's get to David Samson and let's get to your shirtlessness. There it is. Unflattering angles. There are no- Wow, we got some abs on you. David Samson has put on his glasses. What do you see there, David Samson? What is your vantage point?

That he's trying to CGI abs on him by using marker. What? And in fact, it looks like a tik-tok toeboard on the Michelin man.

Billy, just for a ruling, is he allowed to wear that scarf?

He's chilly, man.

No, you got to take off the scarf because you need to put on the chains and the glasses because he's paying off of Kirk Cousins punishment.

Oh.

A toofer. The side angle, not terrible.

Well, there's a.

Tree in the way. Because that's a.

Green thing. Whatever he's doing, not terrible.

Okay, so what he's done is he is successfully defeated. Maybe for Max, we could get the unflattering view. We can- That.

Opportunity passed, David.

Oh, it's over. The negotiation is over. All right, David, help me understand what just happened with Stephen Ross and the breaking news that he has… He's in negotiations with a Hedge Fund manager to give, or not give, to sell a minority ownership in F1, in everything he's doing, in the Dolphins. Why is Stephen Ross taking on a $35 billion?

I'm sorry, I'm not hearing you anymore, Dan. That may be me, but I think it's more likely you because something happened when Stewart took his shirt off. I stopped hearing.

Well, can you hear us now?

I hear you, Mike. I don't.

Hear you. You do not hear me.

Okay, well- I think all of the sound waves from the big studio have been sucked up by Steve's.

Shirtless appearance. Well, he was asking you about Stephen Ross. What is he doing?

So Stephen Ross, here's what octogenarians have to do. They have to do something called the state planning, which is what wealthy people do in order to protect their wealth for generations. What it really is, is tax avoidance, because if you die with a lot of money, you owe the government, let's say, 50 % just for round numbers. So what generally has to happen after someone dies is that a state has to do a sale in order to monetize assets to pay a tax.

All right, so you're back. Who is the person that he's going to be selling to? Because I know with the whole Tom braided thing, there was this, I think his name was Bruce Beale. He was essentially the owner and waiting, but the inclination is that that's over and done with after the NFL stepped in on all the tampering stuff.

Who is this Ken Griffin? How is he worth $35 billion? And you're saying this is largely a matter of accounting and estate planning?

This is a matter of him selling the team. What you're reading is that he's selling a minority piece. What really is going to happen is that it will be a minority piece with a path to control, which means there will come a time when he will own the entire franchise. You see that with other franchises. Our friend David Blitzer in Cleveland bought the Indians with the Guardians, excuse me, with a path to control. No, you're right. You saw it with Alex Rodriguez and Mark Loar. By the way, Arod did the business deal of the century while no one was paying attention. He bought the Timberwolves for a billion and a half dollars but didn't pay for it. And by the time he's paying for it, the team is worth two and a half billion dollars, and he's getting people to invest at that increased valuation.

What's going on here? We've got issues with David Samson. We'll boot.

Him from the Zoom. What happens.

Is you put up- I'm going to let David go real quick.

He's back. Yes, we are having some audio issues with.

You, David. Thank God today is not Max Day. It is.

Good information that we're getting from you. I will tell the audience because I'm guessing that he covered this on nothing personal. We will try to get David back and get the audio corrected here. But the way that he covers this stuff, and the way that John Skipper covers it, it has more information than I'm used to hearing about what these business deals are. I am curious, because I did not know until listening to it right now, how it is that Bruce Griffin has navigated the labyrinth that allows him to get into NFL ownership.

When- Ken Griffin?

Ken Griffin, excuse me.

It's a fun name.

Ken Griffin. Thank you. Junior, the kid. Billy, excellent work by you. I'm glad that that's where you engaged. Thank you for always being helpful that way. I am curious, when you have ownership changes, it usually comes with us knowing the people involved, the community knowing the people involved. And if he's talking about Stephen Ross selling the team and allowing different ownership than what was going to be happening, because all that seemed to blow up around the Tom braided stuff, Mike.

It did. But if you're familiar with how Stephen Ross came to owning the Miami Dolphins, wasn't in a similar situation where he had minority stakes and he was the owner in waiting. Then took over the full share of the Miami Dolphins, and he tried doing it with Bruce Beale, but that got blown up with the braided stuff. I know he's just trying it again. This seems to be the MO of this regime.

We will get back to Samson. He's trying to talk right now, and his audio is not working.

Because I have them down.

All right, go ahead, David. What were you going to say to that?

I don't know where you lost me, except to tell you that Stephen Ross is going to sell the dolphins in full, not in part. He's doing it to a billionaire who is coming to Miami along with Jeff Bezos. Everybody's coming to Miami, Dan. It's the place to be. And he is whatever he's worth, say, $35 billion. This is a great, great ego purchase. The Dolphins forget whether they're a good team or not, but he's also getting the stadium, the formerly known Joe Robbie Stadium, and a piece of F-1, which, as you know, does very well for Liberty. And so it's a very large deal that makes a lot of sense given Steve Ross's age and his personal situation.

Do you have any guesses that would be responsible on the value of what is being transacted here?

So responsible? Yes, I can give you an estimate given what we saw the commanders trade at six and a half billion dollars. Given that there's other assets involved in this deal, the entire enterprise is likely going to be in the seven and a half to eight billion dollar range. And then it will be a matter of what percentage he buys over what period of time.

Okay, and that… Ken Griffin is worth $35 billion, so eight billion getting in for a percentage. Your thoughts are what? On when he will be owning the team and what the labyrinth is on getting through the other NFL owners to get to a team. And also, you can speak to the history of damaged relationships that have minority owners in them because these pathways get crossed with money. This relationship needs to be solid.

Generally, what happens is there is a five-year period when you do a step transaction. That means that you own the team over a period of time. Let's say you get 10 % to start, and then you get 10 % a year for five years. That's why it's called a path to control. But often it can happen sooner where the seller doesn't have a choice because the buyer can actually call the team away from the current owner and say, I want to give you the balance of your money now and take control now. That's the biggest negotiation that takes place once you come to a price.

Is Stephen Ross still keeping his options open? Because we learned with the whole Bruce Beale thing, Bruce Beale was preapproved by the other owners to take over that stake. Then when he got out of the picture, Stephen Ross's daughter entered the fray. It's whispered about that Stephen Ross's daughter doesn't necessarily want to let go of the Miami Dolphins, wants to keep it in the family. Even after Stephen Ross is passing. Is this a way for Stephen Ross to keep his options open? Is that version of succession plays out?

Well, generally, when you do a transaction like this, there is no way out. You cannot decide to break the deal when there's a path to control. If the buyer, like Arod with the T-Wolves, or in this case, Griffin, if they can't- For the love of God.

All right, we're going to let David go. It's just not.

Working out. I love watching him talk.

I'm sorry, David. Yeah, we're just.

Going to let David go. It's just not working out.

Our apologies, David. We're going to try and see if we can get you back maybe in the-No, we won't. He's done. Okay, he's done for the day. Wow, happy Thanksgiving. There it is. Injected. Injected. That's it. That's it.

It's like we broke up. It's not going to work out. We can't hear you, David.

I mean-.

It's not you.

It's us.

No, it's him.

Billy is ruling.

Given our history, it's.

Probably us.

Don Libertard. The alley has a bad reputation in general, right? It does. Throughout American history.

But on South Beach, someone's always just sitting somewhere smoking a cigarette. You can't go down an alley around here and not see someone sitting there smoking a cigarette.

It retains a pulsating heat from the night before.

You walk by some liquid, they're like, Is that water? It didn't rain last night. That's definitely not water.

Avoid the liquid. Always avoid the liquids in an alley.

Stugaz. I venture a guess that if you were to rake your tongue on the asphalt of an alley, you would die immediately.

I don't think it would be immediately, though. First, you'd contract very quickly right before death several sexual diseases, and then you would die.

This is the Don Lepetar Show with the Stugaz.

Tilly is ruling with an iron fist. I'm going to think that the audience is going to find this shot of Stugats disappointing. He has successfully navigated the iron… I'm shirtless. Yes, you are. I cannot dispute that you are shirtless.

I love flower, Dan.

Why did we not get this sponsored?

Somehow you still look more.

Like an idiot. It is sponsored by KFC.

I'm pretty jacked. You could see the inner workings, Dan, when I was a kid of a guy who had a great physique, right? You can see it. It's in there somewhere.

You've got a frame.

I wanted to talk about what is happening on Friday, Stugat, because this is unusual. This is an unusual week. It's Wednesday of Thanksgiving week. A lot of people are going to have the next four days off to wrestle with their families. I want you to put this on the pole for me, JuJu, at Levitard show. H holidays. Joyful or stressful? Joyful or stressful, because I'm getting triggered by Jared commercials. Oh, boy. I don't know what's happening. They've made me sad for a long time, and I don't know what it is about the holidays. I just want to ask you guys, as we head into what can often be a stressful period with the family on Friday, you have not just the Dolphins playing the University of Miami, playing the latest, biggest game of their season to determine whether the season was a success or not. At noon on Friday against Boston College, the howling will last for months on Mario Cristobal, either way, at the end of this season. But if you lose to B-C with Van Dyk out here doing conference calls with reporters saying, I don't know if I'm going to be back next year.

I don't know. I'm in my options now. And everybody's like, Good riddance. Go and let's see what's next. We got to see what's next here because young players are their best players. And he now represents the old regime. Mario Cristobal is going to be fighting for his life in the state next year with these coaches just in the state in year three.

At least they have options now. I mean, these kids have options. That's a good thing. That's a positive thing as far as I'm concerned.

Right, but I'm guessing most of the University of Miami fans listening to this are saying, Van Dyk can go now. I'd like to see what progress looks like. I'm guessing that that's not how I ever had all of that going. Where the program was, you guys? We'll get to the Dolphins in a second because they play the one that's most interesting on Friday. You guys don't think a lot of people are just going to miss that because it's Prime at 3:30 and it's Friday and you're not paying attention and you forget it's 3:30?

It is an odd time, but I think people will be tuned in. We also got Heat and Panthers that day.

Stacked sleep. Three o'clock for an NFL game on an island is so weird. It's like, give me 4:30 or.

Give me 1:00. It's not Saturday, though. It's not Monday.

Friday, a little different. Three o'clock. They're giving you time to get your stuff done, hang out with the family.

I have nothing.

To do. I have eating and watching.

That's all I have to do.

They should ask you your schedule next time.

I would appreciate that, actually.

They're giving you the witching hour on a Friday. You're going to be all soaked and tripped to fan. You're going to be disoriented. You're not maybe usually off on a Friday. You've got family again, Hectoring you. You're getting hit from every angle by the in-laws. You can't wait till seven o'clock gets here and everyone gets the bleep out of the house and maybe you lose track of time somewhere. I'm telling you, Friday has the potential to disorient sports fans all.

Over the world. Welcome to marriage, Dan.

It's not marriage. What is it? It is parents who have lost a child recently.

Well, you should be hanging out with them all weekend. Thank you, Stugant. I was.

Going to say also marriage, but you took.

The cake there. I know. Well, I blame Stugant.

I don't-I.

Know.

It. Thanks to inflation, that cake costs $400.

And the reason I blame.

Stugart- A couple of topics for Thanksgiving dinner, if you like.

-is because he knows so little about marriage that he wouldn't know to not ask me about the in-laws on an open microphone.

I didn't ask you. I mean, you led.

Me there. No, I didn't lead you anywhere. You could have sat it out, as you often do. You were allowed to that.

Right. That's fair. I'm sorry to-.

You're not. I am.

You're not, Stugart. I am. You're making me feel bad now.

It's cold.

In here.

You never-.

These leaves are.

Tickling me. You never mean it when you apologize. Your apologies have been ground to dust.

They don't throw out the Middle East. See how that works.

Where's.

Samson? See where people stand.

The University of Miami conversation is over after this game?

I think it's been over for a while. It's never over. Honestly.

Well, they still have a ball game to play.

Six and Five this week, Boston College.

Well, this is the Blake James Revenge Game. You can't lose Boston College. Oh, boy. I think Mario has been quoted because they're expecting some bad weather that actually might lean more into Miami's identity or pseudo identities. There's no such thing as bad weather, just soft people. I like that. We'll find out together on Friday.

That should be a T-shirt. There's no such thing as bad weather, just soft people.

Sounds better when you're 10.

And 0:00. It does. I will say that normally this would be a game if you care about the University of Miami. The season is already done without the signature win under your belt of Louisville. But low key, it's a disastrous season if the regular season ends with just a one-game improvement over last year. I feel like Mario needs this one, and it's not the first time we've entered a game where it felt like, Damn, Mario needs this one. Thankfully, he won the last one against Clemson, which I guess would be his signature win. Now that Clemson has ride at the ship, thanks to Tyler. But you need to have a little bit more improvement than just one win.

This is just to see which crappy bowl they end up in?

Yeah. They should actually reject a bowl invite. Mario, you told us last year, didn't want to play in a bowl game. Last year. They weren't eligible, so it wasn't really his choice. But he said he didn't want to play in a bowl game. He should do the same thing this year and be like, No, we're good.

Hit the trail. I actually do think he did. Well, they're already in a bowl game no matter what. But at this point, last year was about purging the roster. I was a big believer and the locker room just wasn't right and there was an intangible thing that was hanging over the team that it just it lacks certain intangibles. I do think from watching them this year, they're fighting in games. It's not the same team that would quit last year. The talent has certainly improved. The frustrating part for me is, as someone that bought in on all that, even though I see it on the field, it's not resulting in wins. How much thought can you really take in that if it's only just a.

One-game improvement? If I may, though, okay, because you have been shaken as a fan who cares about this thing because Colorado comes in and disrupts at the beginning of the season with New guy, how fast can you fix it? Mel Tucker is 10-1. Oh, that wasn't real. Oh, Lincoln Riley's big season. Oh, that wasn't real. It's not about fixing it for one season, though all of us remember Mark Ricks' number one hurricanes playing at Pittsburgh.

That wasn't that long ago. Yeah, they were number two, but they would have been number one if they won that game. Then Evan Sheriff showed up.

I'm talking-.

Can you picket beat them?

It was unbelievable to see Miami in the top five with what all of us thought wasn't a good enough team to be up there. But if I may, because this is not forgiveness for what it is this happened with Mario Cristobal, the expectations to come with $80 million are immediate and they are profound, especially since we're doing this so overtly as business now. You get the best players. We pay you a lot. We pay them a lot. I don't know how much Van Dyk made. It's a lot, Stugat. Those reports were that Tug of a lawyer, Tua's brother, Tug of a lawyer was.

In- You can transition to the first name.

You can just call him Talia.

-that he was in Maryland, SEC teams were offering him more money than rookie quarterbacks are making in.

The NFL. Right. Are we stuck with Mario Cristobal? Is that the deal? Is he going to be here for eight years?

We're already here.

No, I'm not asking this, Mike. I am not asking this to upset you.

Upset the fan base. I mean, you can call them a failure several times and a bad coach. But I will say that, yeah, they are in year two of an eight-year, $80 million deal. This is not the type of institution that is like Texas A&M. There are no $160,000 donations that are going to be unveiled at half time. This has to work. It flatly has to. The NIL investment, that also has a time limit too. The receive money provided to this coaching staff, it's not going to be sustainable. The whole plan is build a good program, invest early, and then once you have a winning program, the recruiting becomes a lot easier. But you see in college programs all across the country, who's the coach that went and got it right? Is there two of them? Three of them? Immediately?

Immediately. Did Dion get it right? Because they're four and seven now and not making a bowl. No, it's Kerby Smart.

No, it took time for Kerby Smart, too. It took time for nick Saban. Immediately, it's tough to find those examples. It's hard for the course. However, I do think, and Dan's got to get in here in a second, but I do think that the timeline on that stuff has been shortened because of things like the transfer port. You can afford to have less patients. It can be a serious... I don't think it's a serious discussion now. No one's really talking about with any legitimacy, Mario Cristobal and buyout. Those are things that we're projecting right now. But in year three, if they lose to Florida, that conversation does start in earnest.

Well, my point in everything it is that I just described that Mel Tucker didn't actually fix it. Lincoln Riley didn't actually fix it. You have to take long view on these things. Stugat, in our lifetime, the teams have basically been that have done it long time. University of Miami, USC, Alabama, and now Georgia. There's some Ohio State in there, but just sustained stuff where you know you're getting 10 wins every year and you know you're a national championship contender.

It took Jim Harba about four or.

Five years. But Mike, who's involved in the boosterism and the economy of this thing, is sitting here saying at these microphones that Mario Cristobal at the end of year two has a need it game, another need it game. What I'm telling you is the timeline on all this money has been fast forwarded, if that's where we are. Like if Cristobal is playing for a hot seat next year, this was supposed to be an eight-year contract and Miami doesn't have the business money to afford four years.

Of buyout. Look, at Boosters and the administration, everyone's talking about the ACC, where you stand, we're not getting enough money. Vanderbilt's making seven figures more than us with their TV deal. All that stuff needs to be prioritized over a potential buyout. You can't be talking buyout with this coach at this moment.

Don Levitard. At the end of our conversation with Alex Smith, and we talked for about 30 minutes, but I feel like nobody is going to remember anything about that conversation other than how you felt flat at the end with your very last word. Listen to how Stugats here at the end of this interview says goodbye, just exhausted to Alex Smith.

Stugats, What happened? Alish?

I'm dead. I'm exhausted. I haven't stopped talking in a month. I mean, I don't know.

What to tell you. This is the Dan Lebertar Show with the Stugat.

Stugat is saying here, he is promising me whisper through central whispers. Dan, I'm going to start removing some plants soon.

Yeah, I'm going to do it, Dan. We'll start with this one right here. Let's move this one just a little bit. We'll put it right over here, get people a better view, let them take it all in.

I don't think. I think you took a tiny one and put it in a place where it's blocking more views. You didn't say, Okay, you're going to be moving plants, but you're not going to be moving plants to reveal more. Semantics.

Perhaps, Dan, we'll see how the segment goes. Right, I said moving, not removing. I mean, that's what I said. And so far, I have moved one little plant from this side of my computer to the left side of my computer. We'll see how the rest of the segment goes.

Roy, with a surgical semantics thrown in there. Roy, Billy was making fun of you before the show today. I was? Because while you were saying, I was wondering, the Panthers have start, they're good, okay? Roy practically skipped out of here yesterday. I've never seen such happiness through the garage because he's got a good hockey team. He knows his hockey team is good. Yet last year was not a fluke. Now, Roy is doing after the game. But Billy was saying, Well, what about tonight? Are you doing anything after.

The game? Big one tonight. The Bs, huh?

It was more of a lump, by the way, not really a skip.

Roy skipping is something I'd pay to see.

He was happy. Roy, tell me I'm saying any falsehoods when I say Roy is happier because he knows he's got... Happier, not happy. Roy is happier because he knows he has a good hockey team.

Sure. I'm glad that this team is currently winning right now, second place in.

The division. Look at that joy. Look at that effervestness. Sure. Like a champagne bottle opening.

Listen, I'm a realist, Dan. I'll believe it when I see it.

Well, you are.

Seeing it. You are seeing it. What the hell am I seeing it.

In real time. I just got out of the Stanley Cup final.

But there's a future here.

There's a future. When will you be happy if not after coming off of a Stanley Cup final?

I will be very joyous. When he sees it. When he sees it. When he sees it. When he's to.

Come, right? I see that cup, that's too. Anyways, so tonight the Beaz are in town, postgame.

After the game.

With Roy tonight? No, we are recording a show before the game.

Oh, no.

That's a twist.

Before the game with Roy. This is what Billy was making fun of. Is it after the show with Roy? Is it after the game with Roy? Is it before the game with Roy? It's a convoluted concept.

It's hard to know when to plan to watch.

The show. Guys, I got this. It's Roy's weekly show previewing the biggest game of the season. No? Sure.

All right.

But it's just a Florida Panthers segment.

No, it's also national. We also are going.

To interviewI'm But shouldn't it be after the games then?

No, Thursday is Thanksgiving, so we can't.

Exactly do that. Wait, when it's called.

After the game. But Thursday is Thanksgiving, today is Wednesday.

Today is Wednesday, we're recording a show that's going to be released.

Before the game. What does that have to do with Thanksgiving?

Because we can't record on Thursday. We usually.

Record on Thursday. But there's no game on Thursday.

But after the game tonight.

After the game suggests.

Like a very narrow… There's a game.

On Friday, home- I don't like what's happening here. It's Friday.

I don't know if this game is going to have a post game.

It's Roy.

Immediately after the game when we do the post game. But it.

Seems like it's a show just for Roy because we don't know.

When it is. I've listened to you and David, and it seems like it's just a Panther segment.

Roy, I'm going tonight. I'll do after.

The game with you if you want. Well, no, it's not today. Today, he's doing after the show.

Right. But I'll be there. My point is.

If I'm willing to- Right, but he's not doing it. No, but.

He could put out the weekly preview today, and then I'm willing to do it after the game with him if he wants.

Are most weekly previews on a Wednesday?

Not.

Necessarily, no. But it is when it's the biggest game of.

The year. This is a Wednesday that feels like a Friday, though.

But you can excuse the narrow focus because it's such a big game.

Yeah, it's a huge game.

There seems to be a bit of a confusion here. Can we just lay out the schedule for the fans trying to consume all of this content?

Hold on a second, Roy. Okay, right now, what is happening inside of me, what Royals inside of me is gurgling with such a- Royals. -with such a furious, furious frenzy. I need to explain to the audience what, on behalf of Metallark Media, I am feeling.

Right now. You have a club in.

Your hand. Don't brew in the segment. What? Oh, no.

No, brew in the segment.

It's pretty simple. It's after the game with Roy sometimes, unless it falls on a week where there's Thanksgiving, and we're going to do the preview show on a Wednesday that will come out on Thursday previewing the Wednesday game.

That already happened.

With David Dworak.

And the Hockey news.

What? What Royale is within me, and this is what Billy mocks from the shadows over there, delighting in- Not mocking.

Sounds like mocking to me.

Well, Roy, it deserves mocking because- No, it doesn't. Roy.

Okay, yes, it does. There's a lot of confusion here.

Roy, you have debuted a play. I know we give out these platforms, but they're really valuable, really valuable.

That's real estate on one of the biggest sports properties on.

The planet. And so you have the show that is yours because we give microphones to people and you don't know when it is, how it is, how to sell it. And when we ask you what it is, you tell us it's national and scope. And you and David Dork are always talking about the Panthers.

There's two shows here. There's after the Game with Roy sometimes, and then there's his weekly thing. What's that called?

This is your big chance. Do I have a title?

Roy, does he have a title? You have two shows?

I'm trying to help you, Roy.

There's one show that doesn't have a title. Yes. One that does have a title. What's that right? What does the second.

Show talk about? The second show is the postgame show immediately after the game.

No, that's after the game with Roy. The weekly one is all encompassing NHL recap that he does with David Warwick. With no name. What do you-What is the no name? What is the title? I got my finger right on the pulse here.

All.

Encompassing. How do we... The whole N.

A. T. After the game is just...

Like Roy, they play the.

Open.

The music's playing, and you start, what do you say?

How do you.

Introduce the show? Not even the music. What is the title that someone would even search for? How do you find it?

I just make up the title at the.

Start of every show.

After.

The game, though.

You're.

Probably the player.

After the game is the postgame.

After the game. You're not talking about Austin Matthews on this show. You're talking about Kula Kav.

Mike Ryan has so much good Edmonton-Oyler stuff.

Well, I mean, good is a relative term, but I'm very confused as to what's happening with Conor McDavid. Can I talk about it with a host of After the Game? Sometimes we would be recording the show on Wednesday. Hopefully, they do a postgame.

-unless it's.

Thanksgiving week occasionally with David Dworak. -yes. --way I talk to you about the Edmonton? Sure. Are both with David Dworak?

-yes. -roy, I'm.

Going to go ahead and tell you. This is the same show.

It's the same show. It's not the same. We are immediately reacting to the Panthers game after the game.

Once before, once after at Roy's defense. -what do you mean immediately? Reacting after. You're taping it today. They play tonight. There's nothing after the game because it's Thanksgiving.

This is before the game, though.

Thanksgiving.

Tomorrow. That was impressive.

That was.

So active.

When does Edmonton come to town? I know when Mike will take you on this. If there's an episode.

That one. They came at the game already. They were just here. They were just here, yeah. They actually played. We're actually talking about after the game. The Panthers went down to zero and that game came back and won. Edmonton has two generational talents on their team. With Connor McDavid, who is the best player in the NHL, and Leon Drysidl, who is a monster, especially on the power play.

Relax- Best you've ever seen. The two best players in the history of the power play, according to you who are playing.

Next to each other. I think certainly for the modern era, there's an argument to be made in terms of a tandem, best power play tandem in the history of the game, Leon Drysidl and Connor McDavid. They've already fired their head coach this year. They were expecting that new manager bump hadn't quite happened yet. I'm really struggling to find out what's happening with Edmund. It seems as though the answer has been the Achilles heel of that team the entire time because they've had a good team that's been in the playoffs and they're always undone by goalkeeping. This is still the issue for Edmonton there, but it's getting to the point now in the season, especially if you look at the Sandings that... Do you call this a failed experiment so far in Edmonton? Because you have really young pieces over there that you build around, a person that you'd like to keep in that sweater and Connor McDavid and Triesidal for that matter for the entirety of their careers, you're not supposed to have players in their prime playing this well on a team that's performing this poorly. Naturally, people are going to be in CYA mode.

Do you look to rebuild? It's not really a discussion yet.

Outside of the interview. Players, anyone would want. Oh, yes, and you give up the former. But I'm saying it only becomes a discussion when those are the.

Ingredients.

Like the angels.

I mean, a ton of GMs are going to be knocking. It is a lot like Trout and Ohtani. Right. I'm sure the GM for the last several years has had to rebuff teams trying to poach their best talent, because what are you playing for this year? This year is a loss year. Is that a real conversation? Maybe not so much with McDavid, but with Drysidal.

Well, Drysidal after this season has one year left on his contract. He has a modified no-trade clause, so he can give 10 teams that he would want to trade to.

Mcdavid has two. Is Florida one of them? Yeah, are they?

Well, he hasn't give the list yet. He hasn't given the list yet.

I got to listen to- You got to listen.

To.

Today. What is it? But after the season, Conor McDavid has two years left on his contract.

You.

Tell him, Roy. There's another thing that's hanging on.

After the season with Ron?

That's the third show. After the season. The exit recap. When would.

That be?

After the- After the season.

They're typing.

It tomorrow. They're typing it tomorrow.

Thanksgiving.

I have one more question for the host of after the game, after the season, before the game on a Thanksgiving week, occasionally, sometimes with David Dworak.

Of.

The Hockey Noose. Is Patrick Cain signing with the Florida Panthers?

Well, he's definitely definitely the Panthers as one of the teams on his list. I don't know.

I don't know. Patrick Cain right now is available for anyone. He's taking meetings. Do you remember when Dionne Sanders was auditioning teams and he was sitting in Dolphins games before he finally settled on going with the Niners? That's what Patrick Cain is doing. But is Patrick Cain at that level anymore? I mean, the Rangers picked him up last year. They didn't do much. For depth, it's good. But is this a move you want to see the Panthers make? Do they have a legit shot?

I actually thought they would end up going to Buffalo. I mean, that's his hometown, and that's an up-and-coming team over there. But yeah, the Panthers have a legit shot of landing him.

Roy, this is what I'm here to tell you, okay? Metallark Media and these platforms are so large and important.

He's moving to plan.

-that a lot of people are trying to partner with us. They want to partner and go into business on being able to share platforms with us. This is an enormous opportunity for you. After the game, before the game, sometimes with David Dork, sometimes not, sometimes- Always.

With David. Always with David. That is the one- That's.

The one- -DT is always there.

-that's the one, sir. -dt is always there.

-dt is always there. -double-d. Okay. All right. Don't bleep this up. I'll try not to. It hasn't started very strong.

Thanks, Dan.