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I know that show introduction is all filled with jokes, but we did do that on purpose, right? Where we did a countdown from two minutes and the introduction is less than two minutes.

It's one minute. It's the fastest two minutes in sports.

All right, so that is a joke. We're doing that on purpose. That's not incompetence, correct? No, the incompetence is starting at 9:05. Okay, well, I knew there would be incompetence somewhere that we can make a joke out of. Found it. So thank you. Also, we are very lucky today to have Charlotte Wilder and Ameen Al-Hassan because basketball, Draymond Green is doing maximum Draymond Green things that don't have much of anything to do with basketball. This is how it ends for The Warriors, you understand. It's with him punching people in the face, getting his money, and then not making it about basketball at all. But before we get to that story, I just want to know what is happening in the left corner of the shipping container where you are suffering a punishment of some sort, the commissioner of the grid of death. And are you an old-timey baseball player?

Well, Dan, here's what happened is, as you know, I'm the commissioner. I rule with an iron fist, and it's Deaths Cumber, as everybody's aware. So punishments have to be paid off as a bucket of death is here. And it was brought to my attention that Roy was supposed to be completing a punishment today. Now, I switched with Roy, so it seemed only fair that I would have to pay off said punishment. Now, this is going to count as one of my punishments, but a punishment is being paid nonetheless. I don't know what Roy is going to have to do. He's going to have to figure something out. Looks like his punishment.

Is invisible.

It's a pretty.

Good punishment. Are you a particular baseball player? Are you in character as an old-timey baseball player that's specific or just general old-timey baseball player?

I'm told that I am supposed to be Tungsten Arm O'Doel from the 1921 Akron Groomsman.

No, Dan. See, he's over here. He's Billy two-legs. He's the fastest man we've ever seen in this sport. I'm also alarmed at how much Billy actually looks like… We just got to put you in sepia or sepia? How do you say that? You know.

What I mean? The yellowy one? I don't think we've ever had a costume that is quite that authentic. If you immediately stepped out from 100 years ago, I would think, You don't even look like Billy. You look more.

Like you're- All curly.

That's the picture right there. That's the picture right there. It's always in that stance.

Then a 47-mile-an-hour fastball.

Nuckler. Then he's shotguns four beers in the -I've never.

Seen anything like it. -you've never seen anything like it.

That is how I expect the agent for Tommy DeVito to come on and join us in 20 minutes. We have the agent for Tommy DeVito on with us, and he looks like an old time. You guys kept doing like mafia stuff yesterday. To me, he felt like an old time journalist, like Bert Sugar, somebody who would talk like a journalist in.

The 20s. With press in his hat, with the hat and it's got the little press.

Pass stuck in there. Have you seen the Great Muppet Caper? Yes. You know how Fawzy wears a press hat? And he goes, Stop the presses. And then he's like, I just always wanted to say that.

You guys were very excited. I couldn't believe how excited you were when you learned. Think about how prisoner of the moment we are. At any other point in our lives, if I had said to you guys, Hey, we got Tommy DeVito's agent on, you'd be like, What? Why? What are we doing? But today the newsroom started bustling because a man who is dressed as a costumed agent for a quarterback who is playing strong Italian is very exciting to get on the show.

This is not a costume, Dan. This is his truth. Sean Stalato is living-.

That's his name.

-his truth. He's going to be inducted into the... Oh, God. National Italian American Sports Hall of Fame this weekend.

Chris, Cody, why are you laughing at Charlotte?

I'm just supporting a teammate. I love you, Charlotte. I'm trying to be here for her.

Okay. He's racking those up because he was recently inducted into the Massachusetts.

Sports Italian Hall of Fame. The Salem, Massachusetts.

Oh, not the.

Whole- Oh, it's just Salem?

Well, I got to double-check.

Charlotte, you're double-checking. There's some bad teammates around here. Although when we did the White Santa or what was the white elephant thing. -what's Santa? -the white.

Elephant thing. -wow. -yes. -white Santa is on the 25th.

Thank you. -three Americas. The white elephant gift exchange that we did yesterday, this was a bustling place that gave me great joy because it made me feel like, Wow, look, everybody's loving each other, getting along. We're having a lot of fun, singing, music, everything else. But there is nothing that creates more enjoyment around here, I think, based on Chris Cody's laughter when Charlotte was leaking going through her notes. That was not you being a supportive teammate. You were enjoying that she got- I mean, you.

Called it out.

You're.

The bad teammate. I was doing it quietly. She would have.

Never known. Well, while you've been bickering about who's a good or bad teammate, I learned that Sean Stalato is in the Salem High School Hall of Fame. There he is.

Who's laughing now? The reason we were bickering about it is because generally, if there are smiles in that room, I follow them. But he was laughing at you, not with me. That's my point, and I didn't recognize that. He was enjoying because absolutely what he was doing is enjoying that you had to go to your notes and now the show was just sitting in your lap.

Yeah, well.

What else is new? Billy, I would like for you to be different characters, different old-timey base... His teammates, whatever this guy's name is from the 1920s, Odool. I would like throughout the show for you to become different teammates of Odool. Can you do that for me?

Sure. Anything you want, Dan, because I'm a good teammate. By the way, speaking of bad teammates, this agent of Tommy DeVito, he really did the security guard of the Eagles like a disservice, right? He was the Italian for the moment and then immediately got kicked off of that a week later.

An Italian from Philadelphia willing to fight the 49ers.

Dom DeSandro, yeah.

We have breaking news on the Tommy DeVito front. He is now the NFC Offensive Player of the Week.

There it is.

There it is.

And we always.

Knew we could do it. Hoorah.

All right, so that A-The ANC Offensive Player of the Week, Zach Wilson. What is.

Going on?

What? A-k. I will tell you what's going on there, okay? Football is very popular. We must keep it popular. All of the good quarterbacks are hurt. These are the ones that are left who are playing better than the other ones who stink who are left. That's what's happening. I mean, walk me through what's happening with Draymond because these things don't end quietly. They don't end nice. They don't end well. Clay Thompson wants his money. Jordan Poole got punched in the face for tempting Draymond Green about the idea that he wasn't going to get his money. And Draymond Green hasn't done substantive basketball stuff in a while. They are no longer champions. They're not going to be champions. It's over in Golden State, obviously. There's a soundbite. The young people have taken the sport from them, and they're not going to win the championship. I mean, you know this.

I don't know if there's any team that makes me feel confident they're going to win a championship. So I would say from a Golden State perspective, jury is not out because there's nobody out there who appears to be infallible or dominant in.

That way. I would say that Denver was that last year. They were. And Denver is a good deal better than them. And this is how the decline... I know that at the end of these games, I saw the one the other day, I thought Steph Curry had won the game late with a three, 118, 115. But no, Oklahoma City is really good. And when I tell you that the young people aren't going to let them stay champions, they've been reminding the Memphises of the world, We've got four rings. But that isn't what it was. This is the diminished remains of what was the best regular-season basketball team I have ever seen, and then added Kevin Durant. The remains of that have a smoldering presence at the middle of the locker room that is totally volatile, cannot be trusted to handle frustration with grace, and frustration is what you saw, my homes got used to winning, and what you saw leak out of him was that. Draymond's used to winning. They're not winning anymore, and he's at the center of it. What's happening there?

I just think this is a guy. I don't know if it's tied to not winning. I just think he's operating in a space where he feels untouchable. I can do anything, and there will be no repercussions. And that's weird because basically, in the calendar year of 2023, this is going to be his, I'm assuming he's going to get suspended for this, it's going to be his fourth suspension in just 2023. He's only had five total in his career. Game five of the finals. He had a suspension in 2018, 2019 from the argument with Kevin Durant. But then in 2023, he got one for having too many technical fouls in March. In April, he stomped on Sabonis' chest in the playoffs. And then the Rudy Gobert incident, and now this, and it's like, I don't know, after every one of these incidents, have you ever heard him be contrived or be like, Man, I got.

To do a better job of- Look, man, he has earned Championship FU. This isn't contrition. They are defiant. They win at the center of his defiance. His defiance has only.

Been rewarded. But his defiance this year, this calendar year has been nothing but a dumpster fire.

He did say after this one, he said, I'm not one to apologize for things I mean to do, but I do apologize to Yusif because I didn't intend to hit him. I sell calls with my arm, so I was selling the call, and I swung, and unfortunately, I hit him, which is also admitting that he was going against the NBA's very important policy of no flopping. The Stem roll. The Stem roll. What does that stand for mean?

Secondary theatrical exaggerated movements.

That is great. I wish that what happened is they just find him for flopping because he cop too flopping like that. This was a total accident. I was just flopping. Please find me for flopping. It's what I was doing. And I actually believe him. I don't usually believe him, but on this one, he's parsed it so discerningly where he's saying, No, this one didn't have intent. I tell you. I tell you what I have intent. Now, he doesn't do that either because he intended to step on Sabonus' chest. But I actually believe him in this instance.

Do you guys know what he got suspended for officially in the Rudy Gobert incident? What the League called it?

Choking.

It's called putting his arms around the neck in an unsportsmanlike and dangerous manner.

What's a sportsmanlike way to.

Do that? Exactly. No, look, there's a part of this, Dan, where you can say, Yeah, the defiance is how we won our championships. But again, all the evidence recently is he's doing this and it's hurting his team.

Dan Lebertard. Greg Cody of the Miami Herald is writing an article, and I'm reading in it, Mass Miami, sold out. Miami artist, Miami culture. I'm reading, Mass Miami is sold out. I'm reading about Digital Podcast Network, and I'm reading about us, and I'm like, This is our dreams coming true. Still got a thousand people come out, and we see the shipping container, and they're on stage, and they're like rock stars. You and me both had tears in our eyes. We're like mom and dad of sentiment, and it's hard to get you to sentiment, man. That was a very emotional.

Moment for us.

To see those guys. I'm telling you guys, you were on stage. Dan and.

I were both crying.

Are you guys aware of this?

Crying. Like crocodile tears. We believe Dan was crying. No, crocodile tears are fakes.

Crocodile tears are fakes.

I thought.

They meant big. This is the Dan Leavetar Show with the Stugats.

David Samson is with us. His podcast is nothing personal. He works very hard on it. It comes up first thing in the morning, the degree of difficulty on what he is doing, a solo show, not a lot of people covering that subject matter. Not a lot of people in the media space are doing what he is doing. I encourage you to listen to the podcast, watch on YouTube, because there are not a lot of people doing right now what David Samson is doing. Colin Cowherd, the one man show he does, he does it with 10 writers. Those are Grenades lobbed in the air to go viral. And that's how Colin Cowherd is going to do it at the end of his career. David Samson is starting his career as a solo artist. This shit is hard as a solo artist. I hated it as a solo artist. I wasn't very good at it as a solo person. So I'm encouraging you to listen to that podcast. It's very good. And I will say again, most people are afraid of a lot of the stuff that he's talking about, so they just let it go. They do not talk about it.

Now, we've been making fun of you again, David, because we brought up that sound that you had a bunch of years ago about Ichiro bringing down baseball with his $100 million contract. Now you're out here, and I think you're louder than anybody, shriller than anybody about, This contract is doom. Have you seen anyone push that take further than you, where you are pissed off on behalf of baseball management and everyone else, as always, that labor got money. You're pissed off that a guy gets paid what he deserves.

I'm also pissed off on behalf of agents. There's not one person in the baseball atmosphere who's happy with the O'Tanya contract. The agents aren't happy, and I've spoken to a bunch of them because that deferral is an absolute joke without interest. The owners are not happy because they cannot compete with what the Dodgers offered. The way Ohtani and his agent dealt with this entire thing. It's actually not been positive in any way. And now you're seeing all the team scurrying to sign the next guy, whether it's Yamamoto, the giants immediately signed this Korean player, gave $113 million. There's a great game of musical chairs going on.

David, why? Who does this deal help?

Who does the Ohtani deal help? Yeah. Well, if you believe that Ohtani can actually move to a state where there's no taxes and only have to pay tax on 2 million a year, the California rate for 10 years, and then move to Florida the way Schrezer has and pay no state tax on 680. If you believe because the tax law states that some people are saying if you defer money 10 years out, you pay tax in the place where you are when you get that money, that loophole is going to be closed. If I'm Ohtani, I am not assuming I get that savings. He never was going to leave Southern California. It was either the Dodgers or the Angels. I thought the Angels. And the Dodgers just went too far, and it's typical Dodgers with their financial bullying. All you had to do was defer 50 % the way Scherzer got deferred or the way Betz or Freeman, but they made it so it's embarrassing.

David, so I don't know how these things work. You ran a baseball team, so you know better than I do. Yeah, I'm saying. Looking from it from afar, when he defers all that money, it seems like, okay, well, then the dodger's owner would be incentivized to just sell the team before he has to pay him the $680 million. But that's not how it works, correct?

No, there's something called a purchase price adjustment. That means when you buy something, so picture when you buy a house, and if that house, through inspection, it needs a new roof, you go back to the seller and say, Hey, I was offering you 300,000, but a new roof costs 30,000. I'm now only going to give you 270,000 because I have to pay 30 for a new roof. And if I don't buy the house, you're going to have to get the new roof or it's going to leak all over you. That's what will happen with this O-Tanya deal. If the Dodgers choose to sell, there is not an owner out there, any prospective owner, no matter how rich that person is, who will pay O'Tanya 680 million not to play. So if the Dodgers are worth six billion, they'll actually get 5.32 billion instead of the full six.

But do they have to put anything like an escrow over these years? So they're actually paying part of it now, correct?

It really is such a joke, yes. Major League Baseball has this rule, and the union doesn't want any rules. They're okay with deferrals because players like force, savings plans, etc. But the rule is you actually have to segregate the amount of deferred comp that you have. You get a two-year grace period, but any deferred comp over two years gets segregated. Let's pretend that we're today. The dodgers don't have to segregate anything. But in two years they have to segregate what he's got remaining. But the way you do it, and this is what teams do, you take a picture of your bank account that shows the amount of money in it that covers the deferred money, but that's only a snapshot. So what owners do is they reallocate from other accounts, assets they have, or they borrow money from a bank for five minutes, they put it into an account, and then they take it out the minute baseball certifies. That is unbelievable. -the Minute.

Baseball Certifies. That is unbelievable.

Billionaires.

Are just like us. No, but what Samson just did there, did you see the grinning light of delight on his face. He loves it. Oh, look at how happy he was. Let me tell you this secret about how owners fake what they're doing so that they could keep the business Ponzi scheme going. That's unbelievable how delighted you were not to reveal the Ponzi scheme to be happy that it exists.

You rebel. Well, it's so critical because you don't want to have that money just sitting there in an account available at all times because you want that money working for you in other ways.

I would take it. I'll put that in my account. I can sit there as long as I want. David, my question... Well, you just said, I'll sound like a lot of math. The one thing that I take away from this is that Bobby Bonia Day ends in 2035, and Showhey O'Tanya Day, if that's what we're going to call it, feels like it is, starts in 2034. I just feel like it's important we always have one of those big days happening. I'm glad that they dovetailed it like this.

Charlotte is right. I believe that what you did there, what you just did to explain that to us is more informed than anyone I've heard talking about these contracts. Charlotte is right when she says, People are tuning out. It's just a bunch of numbers. No, it's a bunch of numbers. Yes, it's a bunch.

That was interesting.

I was into it, too.

Itried to get.

Into it. That was interesting. I agree. It was interesting to me. Man, you're going to explain to me that America hates math? America hates math, and he's talking numbers. You know what's worse than math? Doing it in podcast form, rat-a-tat-tat-style with a guy who's the smiling face of corporate greed, who enjoys telling you about these dirty secrets these billionaires do to keep sports from us ever knowing. Hey, O'Tanya, he's undervalued at 700 million because he pays for himself with all of the international money that comes over, doesn't even need our 700 million because of how much he makes. No, I know you're going to disagree. Of course you are. He is worth this money, David.

Of course you are.

Let me give you some facts about Bobby Bonia and why that day is so special. Do you know that Bobby Bonia, the reason why he gets the million dollars a year is the Mets deferred his money, but they pay him 8% interest. The reason they were willing to pay Bobby Bonia 8% interest on their money is the Mets were investing that money that they would have paid to Bonia, and they were giving it to Madoff. They were getting more than 8%. It's a great business deal. Take cash, get 15%, but only pay 8% to get it. That's a winner. The loser is Ohtani, who's getting zero interest on his money.

All right, now you lost me. There were also lots of losers in the.

Madoff situation. Well, this is the thing, no, but this is what he's smiling about. This is.

The fact- I'm not smiling about Madoff.

No, no, no. There's the line. You're not smiling about Madoff, the guy who got caught. You're smiling about the fact that the Wilpons made money. The Wilpons made money by giving... Yes, by... What is the distinction you're making? What is the distinction? That's a huge distinction. No, but listen, here's why it's not. Here's why it's not a huge distinction. All of this shit you're talking about, billionaires taking an iPhone picture of their bank accounts because they've made all this money in all these other places that they then give to the ultimate schema to make yet more money off it. That's what Benie is being paid in 2035. And sports fans are mad that Benie is making that money when they're not mad at the Wilpons for being less famous for making more money off that same scheme money.

I would not compare when you try to leverage other people's money to make money for yourself to what Bernie Madoff did. Bernie Madoff died in prison, having done a real Ponzi scheme where you steal from people, including a ton of great charities. Bernie Madoff deserves to be in hell forever. And whatever his definition of, I hope it's worse. What the Wilpons did is what all owners do what all people... It's what you try to do. Are you not investing money in Metallark, hoping you get more back? What is.

That saying? I'm investing money in you, hoping I'm getting more back. How's that going?

Good luck. How's our merch store doing?

How's everything going? He's smiling again.

Well, the merch store happens to be doing great at levitartaf. Com. And the reason why it's doing great is you guys are doing such great promotions and great drops. People love the merch. There's fulfillment happening. Everything's great. Though I would like you all to pay a little more attention to running of the merch store because what Angel and JuJu are doing together is so fantastic.

I ain't did shit. Juju ain't did a goddamn thing. I ain't.

Touching shit. Yes, you have.

No, I haven't. No, I haven't done nothing. Nobody has presented something to me that makes sense in that category. Leave me out of this. I have no designs on that website.

No, you have no designs yet, but we've had great talks about what I want you to help me with in that merchandise store. Juju?

All right, listen, we've got a problem here that I will reveal to the audience later, not even later in our future years. I'm talking about later in this show, I will explain some of the problems that have to be managed between people at our company when money's involved and JuJu is not playing, okay? That's not… I'll explain that later. But David, levitartaf. Com. Juju, I don't want to lose you here. I don't want to lose you. Come on. Stay with us. Stay with us. All right, stay with us.

I promise I'm right here with you, brother. I love you. There he is.

There he is. All right, just- All right, you got him back. He's back. All right. He's back. He's back. Stay with me, okay? He's back. Stay with me. No, JuJu and I have had, I believe, our most meaningful conversations recently. He knows I love him. But JuJu's mad, and I don't want corporate pissing off any more people at our company. But our company needs corporate because it's a crumbling media economy, and we need to figure out ways to share money. It's hard when you do business with friends. Levitartaf. Com, SamsonSucks20 is the code if you want 20% off. I am going to now go. I'm going to take a break because we got Tommy DeVito's agent, Samson. We will talk about this off air. We will talk about this off air. Up. Thank you. No review this week, okay? Levitartaf. Com, SamsonSucks20. Go ahead and keep laughing at JuJu. Let's see how that goes. We're not laughing about this. I'm loving.

It that's.

Set up with Samson.

This is not funny.

I'm not laughing at JuJu, Dan.

Samsonsucks20 is the code. Levitartaf. Com is the website. Dan Levitard. Many of you, by the way, are writing in and you're saying, Dan, quit being so mean to co-hosts that you always deem incompetent. That's the formula, man. Me being mean to the co-host is what allows Stugaz to take a very wealthy vacation right now. Stugaz. It's a winning position for everyone but me. Haven't you guys not figured this out yet? That's the whole thing, is me being rotten straight, man. As everyone else gets to be incompetent, then I yell at them for being incompetent. And here's the miracle of it, and it's the magic elixir, bad, which is the only thing Greg Cody can be, becomes good and lovable. It's because standing next to obnoxious, strident me makes everyone look that way. Yeah, and the brush with death helped. Yeah, that was planned by me.

The whole thing was contrived. This is the Don Lebarthol show with the Stugats.

I can't believe how unreasonably excited everyone here is about this. I'm confused by it. I'm hypnotized by it.

We applauded.

The newsroom applauded. It's so strange. We were so delighted to see what I was calling the costume you were wearing on Monday, and everyone here yelled at me and said, That is not a costume. That is who that man is. I'm like, But he looked like a journalist from the 1920s. They're like, No, Sean Stalato is authentically Tommy DeVito's agent, and Tommy DeVito is authentically Italian. Sean, thank you for joining us. Please just tell me what the reaction was generally to you standing next to your star client, the player of the Week in the NFL somehow. I can't even believe I'm saying this. Tell me what the last few days have been like for you as Tommy DeVito's agent. Thank you again for joining us.

My pleasure. It's been obviously pretty crazy, but at the end of the day, we're focused in one day at a time. He's preparing for New Orleans. I'm preparing for some working on some opportunities for him and other clients. But it's definitely there's been a lot of people coming out that I haven't heard from in a while. Like you said, what you see is what you get. I mean, I have a... This was in no costume. That's my wife. My first wife, I was from the 20s, though. She did say that.

Sean, I just want you to know I had your back. I was like, Dan, don't you say that. You look incredible. Am I right that you're being inducted into the Italian-American sports hall of fame this weekend? Or is that where your hat is?

Yeah. You know what? I'm representing my girl.

Yeah.

Gifts from new era. But yeah, I'm getting inducted Friday night. So excited, very humbled, honored. I think about who came before me, my ancestors, very low means from Ponte Grande in San Bay as Captain Zaro, Calabria, Italy. I'm here now. This is pretty remarkable and very blessed. And I've got some amazing clients that I work with. I'm really excited for Tommy. It's crazy how it's alline of the stars are aligned the week of the Hall of Fame induction, which is cool.

I'm going to ask you a very difficult question. I give you the choice and you have to answer it. Don't give me agent speak. You have to answer this question. You get the choice of either being inducted into this Hall of Fame or all the calls that you're getting from Italian sponsors and pizza companies because your client this week is going to make a lot of money and your phone has to be ringing like crazy. I give you only one of those you can have this week in a dream week. You choose one, which is it the Hall of Fame or all this opportunity that's coming your way for being Italian this week?

I would say the opportunity for Tommy DeVito, I would choose. My first and foremost is a sports agent. This Hall of Fame is cool. It's great for my kids and my family and the ancestors, but I'm a full-time sports agent. I wear my emotions on my sleeve, and it's about service to my clients. And I would pull that straw all day long.

Sean, I have a question for you. This gesture, can you tell me what does that mean to you? This means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. We've seen it a lot in the recent weeks, and I think it's amazing. I'm married to an Italian-American, and this is a real... Yeah, this is a real thing. She's doing Italian for the podcast. She's doing Italian, for the podcast. I would like to know what it means to you. It's the chain home. Oh, my God.

Yeah. It's a long story. This can be interpreted, I think, different parts of Italy, where you're from. But forget about it. It's really just a listen to me, youI'm a Luke. I mean, come on. I think people are not paying attention. It's a symbol. I think it's interpreted differently by different Italians, but it's definitely a powerful hand gesture that Tommy is passionate about. I love it and I'm sure a lot of proud Italianos all over the world are starting to incorporate in their daily routine a little bit more. I think it might have been rarely used a lot more in years back, but I think it's the contemporary hand gesture and we're excited.

For it. Well, they have an emoji too, which I think is very important.

On his necklace. That's the medallion. It is that emoji, correct?

No. Yes, that is correct. Yep. Well, that's... I lost you guys.

We can hear you.

We hear you.

Can you hear me, okay. That is the Italian horn, which is considered for the malechi, it's supposed to protect you. There's a lot of... Italians, we have a lot of superstitions. I have a lot of pre-game rituals that I can't change up. I'm torn up for Sunday. We're trying to weigh in, but I know his dad's very superstitious and his mom, and that's something that we carry as Italians, very sacred to our hearts.

Have you and Tommy DeVito ever had an argument that has escalated into genuine listen to me, you mama lube?

Tommy and I both got an understanding of each other, for me to get it done for him on and off the field. But no, we haven't had that heated argument like Tom braided and Coach O'Brien did back in the Washington game years back. We're staying in our lane and we're laser-focused on obviously delivering it for him on a daily basis and what he needs. I stood on the table for him draft day and had to listen to 28 other teams say no. One thing I've lived my life is the best revenge is massive success, and just don't worry about things you can't control. I know he's locked in, not listening to all the hype, neither am I, because at the end of the day, we're an opinion-based business, and you're only as good as your last game, as we all know that. I'm only as good as my last deal. So I got to... Yeah, it's a constant evaluation process for everybody in this business, a player as well as an agent.

Speaking of sports and deals, I want to know what's your take on O'Tany's contract as an agent? Like, how do you feel about the deferment of that much money until what, 2034?

You know, I think, I mean, look, tomorrow is not promised to anyone. And obviously, football out of the four major sports is the highest injury rate. I think the guarantee component is important. Obviously, you look at how free agency and salary caps have really changed the game, especially in the NFL. But I'm sure I'm locked in on my guys in terms of their deals. I'm sure obviously his camp got an agenda and how they've strategized to get him paid. But it's definitely new precedents are met every year, and I think as agents, you strive for that to get the top of the market for you guys.

You're being very gentle. You're being very gentle. It's agent speak. It's not authentic Italian, Sean, what he's saying in private speech, like, You gave me a load of agent bullshit because you don't want to be mad at other agents because you don't want to be the story. But you want your man, Tommy DeVito, what's going to happen? Yeah, the giants will tell you we'll pay you in 10 years. Yeah, deferments. I mean, come on.

Hey, I think you got to have a sit down and you got to break bread and maybe you could go swing by Bada Bing and see if there's anything to be worked out.

Okay, because I felt like you didn't give us honesty there, that the other agents are super pissed about this. It's a bad contract for your business because you can't defer payments because like you just said, you know how lucky you are. All the quarterbacks have to get injured for yours to get a chance.

Yeah, look, it's definitely, I think the whole evaluation process on talent. I mean, look at it. A lot of experts get it wrong. We see it every year in the draft. They get it wrong in free agency. I think in terms of having an eye for talent and really believing in your guys, I think it's important. And I've been doing this for… SAS Sports is over a decade old. I take pride in the guys I go after, the character, the traits and the ability to want to give back as well to those in need. But a lot of the decision-makers, as we know, is out of our control, especially in the early process going on drafting. You got to cut your teeth. There's been a lot of great players that end up in Canton that got an opportunity on something an orthodox happening, an injury. Tommy was an elite 11th quarterback. Tommy was a dark cost for the Heisman. Tommy went out to the open in Oregon and outperformed Tua and Trevor Lawrence. I think what he's doing doesn't surprise me one bit. He hasn't even scratched the surface of what he's going to become in this league.

Sean, you have also maybe not scratched the surface. I don't know if people know this, but you write children's books. I'm sorry. You've just gotten blurbs from some really amazing people. You've gotten blurbs from Bill Belichick, Chip Kelly, Doug Floody, Sean Payton. It's a buddy in the Magic Ball and Football Magic. And you also have a book, No Backing Down. Can you tell us a little bit about being an author?

No. It's also Forth and Long the Odds, my journey. So you're doing a lot of writing in your spare time.

You know what? I've always tried to be creative. My daughter, Gianna, she suffers from juvenile arthritis, and we were in and out of Boston Children's Hospital. I said, Gianna, what can we do to start a movement? And she said, Daddy, let's write a children's book. She took her passion for ballet, mine for football, and we intertwined it and came up with football magic. It has some Harry Potterism into it slash meets the Goonies. It's a beautiful tale, early chapter book. That's going to be a series. My book, No Backing Down. I've been an underdog my entire life. This story, I'll challenge any sports story ever written. It's like, remember the Titans meets a team of Rudy's. But the mantra of my journey is no backing down. So it's cool that that is the title and how I live my life every day. It's a human triumph story. It's an underdog high school football team. And let's just say it definitely got some of to it all the parallels. All of us to the Salem witchcraft trials, as crazy as that sounds. What?

Our.

Coach was literally compared to Jim Jones and David Koreshi starting a football cult, which was completely false. The coaches put their livelihoods on the line because there was a major teacher strike. They had two contracts, one to coach, one to teach. The administration said if you're a coach, we're going to terminate you on the spot. The union says, Go coach. Your job description and the collective bargain agreement has no relevance, that we broke into school, still our equipment, stashed it at a local field. We're undefeated, getting ready to play. Todd McShay was the quarterback of Swamp, Scott. Let's just say we had three miraculous games you can't write. The movie script is done.

Of course. No, it's just getting started. It's getting started right now. The movie script is beginning right now. Sean, forgive me for interrupting you on this. We're up against the clock, but we will talk to you again. I have 1,000 more questions. Thank you. We want to respect your time. Thank you for being on with us, sir.

I appreciate you guys having me. Go giants and you guys enjoy this holiday season.

Thank you, sir.

Ciao.