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This is the Dan Leviton Show with the Stugatts Podcast.

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Stugatts, you may have noticed that after football Sundays for a few months right now, a lot of people have crawled into the space between the games are over and 09:00 AM Eastern. Shannon Sharp is there with Ocho. The Pardon my take and Bill Simmons podcast come out on Sunday night, West Coast time. Football here. There are a lot of people to be grabbed this morning, and God bless football gets in early, tries to get in so early that they compete against good morning football, which 7:00 AM. It's hard to compete with. But today I'm told, because Austin Echler is going to be available, I am told that God bless football has not come out yet, and now we are getting, and it's been a while since we got these, Stugaz's original takes are going to appear here first on this show instead of his property with Billy Godbless Football. We are going to get his football maximum takes.

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And Billy's takes. I mean, we gave the takes. We just haven't released the takes yet.

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That's the deal. Well, no, but also you can control repeating the same things. It's 100 % within your control. I will not repeat the same things. But, Dan, you'd agree, the decision was made that Austin Echler, we're going to talk to him today, we're going to release it today. We're not going to sit on that until Friday. It doesn't make any sense.

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That's correct. Brandon Staley has been fired, relieved, I think, at this point. Not just relieved as a verb, but relieved like, Oh, I can go home now. Stop bothering me.

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With this. Not just relieved from his duties, you're saying. That's right. There's relief in this?

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Oh, my God.

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He wants to be a head coach. There's no relief, just embarrassment.

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Understood. That's fine. He does want to be a head coach, but not for these last three games. There's no point. Like Zach Wilson yesterday, he gets a concussion. Was it worth it? No, he was reluctant to play. He should have been, that's why. He didn't need the brain damage in pursuit of that. Right. But we'll get to the jets in a second. What I want to know about what is happening with Billy and you and GodBless Football is, is there a device that, Billy, you can alert me when he's giving a recycled take that will now appear on the dated Godbless Football, but a take that hasn't come out yet? So he'd be giving it here first, but then you'd hear it again on GodBless Football. Stugartz loves to recycle and reheat stuff.

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We're fairly safe today, I think, unless you want to play a game of if the season ended today, in which we break down the playoff matchups as they stand today.

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It was great.

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No, thank you.

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I mean, Dan, Bangles Chiefs.

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That's a.

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Big one. Oh, wow. Who wins? If the season ended today. Is it Dolphins Colts? But here's the twist on our- I thought the Dolphins. I'm good with that. Here's our twist on if the season ended today, Dan. The health also ends today. We don't know if Tarik is going to be good to play in the playoffs because the season ended today. See? That's the twist.

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Okay, and so because Stugats is good at mailing it in and loves to recycle and heat and told us last week, and I didn't know this was possible, he just said, Well, yeah, I just only got so many takes, and I can't, so I got to repeat some of them. I got to get them out multiple times because I'm out of material, basically. I asked and Billy, when you walked in today, if this was the eighth straight month of consecutive days that you have worn that same outfit.

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On a Monday?

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Just in general.

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I've worn this sweatshirt one to two times per week for the last, I want to say, 12 to 15 weeks.

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You also come here one to two times a week.

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Yeah, well, I come here three times a week, four times a week now because of Fridays. I have a rotation of four different Travis, Matthew, sweatshirts that I'll continue to wear until someone in sales picks up on the fact that I like Travis Matthew. I like their hats. I like their sweatshirts. I want to get a deal done with them, and no one in sales is.

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Taking a hit. Let's go.

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Thank.

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You. Come on, feltman.

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I'll take them off after we get the deal done.

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Wait, why would you do that?

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That's a good point.

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I don't know. If in Travis Matthew's defense, you're doing the advertising for them for free, why would they give you any money? All right.

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So stop wearing them. This is my point. My overall point is, Stugass is a take. Machini is running out of takes. We got to squeeze them. I'm running out of sweatshirt. We got to squeeze the rest of what's left out of it. He doesn't have that much more interest. The jets have broken him. He went to a football game yesterday. He comes in bragging. I went to a football game yesterday and realized why I don't go to football games.

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I got to tell you, though, Hard Rock Stadium, I have not been there since I can't even remember the last time it was. It's beautiful. It's gorgeous, Dan. It really is. They have enhanced that stadium. It was nice. We sat on the Dolphins sideline. There is a definite advantage to sitting on that sideline as opposed to the road team sideline because it's really sunny on that sideline. The stadium is beautiful. Mike has told me it's beautiful. The enhancements are great. The food was delightful. Here's the problem. I'm stuck watching the jets. When I watch at home and the jets are down 30 to nothing and they're not getting the ball over midfield until the third quarter, I could switch off from the game. When I'm at the game, I'm stuck watching the jets.

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Well, let's talk about this for a second because the jets were mathematically eliminated. What I'm about to say is fairly shocking. The Patriots gave up the division, and it looks like December is going to give us a hell of a game, Buffalo, Miami, at the end of the season for a lot of important things. Buffalo is scary. Buffalo is gone from a 15 % chance of making the playoffs according to the New York Times model to before beating Dallas, 49 % chance of making the playoffs.

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How about New York Times? Stay out of sports. Don't need it from The New York Times.

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Well, they did literally close their sports desk earlier.

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This year. Good. Keep your models also. We don't need it. Keep your numbers over there.

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And gave the jobs to non-union employees.

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You know, we had a thing, and I thought about you this weekend, Jess, in where ESSY wrote an article where they were quoting something Peter King said on Godless Football. I legitimately was wondering if this was an AI article that is somehow now taking content from podcasts and crediting, which I thought was great. But it did make me wonder, did a person actually.

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Write this? It's a good question. There was a big shake-up at the top of sports illustrated last week. They have a new person operating- Allegedly. Well, allegedly a person.

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Allegedly a person running the vitamin company.

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It does seem like two people, I don't think this was because of the AI thing, but two people at the top of the company are now no longer at the company. But I think questions will persist whether robots are writing articles because that's what you do to yourself when you have robots write articles.

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Peter, King, and Billy are going to be washing dishes against each other.

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Coming up. In January, he said, Anytime you want. And then we said, Next week. And he said, I can't.

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But I said, You're a tough dish. I said that you had to tell Peter King. Peter King is an icon, a legend. It's fairly amazing to see Peter King outlast sports illustrated as a brand, as still one of these information insiders from a different time. His information is great. His contacts are great. And Billy the Duke is coming for what Peter King has always been and always had. He's coming to be the king, and they're going to wash dishes against each other. But Billy said before the show, Billy, what can I reveal here? Because you're saying you're playing the long game. I don't know. Well, you have said of Peter King, game close to passing him by.

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Who said that?

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I didn't say that.

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No.

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Because-we have dishes to wash. Not against each other, mind you, with each other. Separate, but with each other. You know what I mean? It's not a competition. We're not seeing who can wash the dishes the fastest. Here's the thing, Dan. Is one washing, one drying, that thing? This is what happened. No, no. The two sinks? Yeah, he's going to have his sink and I'm going to have my sink. He's going to be in his kitchen and I will be in mine. Yeah, because here's the thing. It loses a little something, though. No, it won't lose anything, I'm telling you. You're going to see that me and him have almost identical kitchens. That's what we figured out when we were talking to each other. We just started talking. You know what happens? When sometimes people just talk, they get to know each other, and you just realize, You know what? Honestly, guys, this is what the world needs. We just need to talk to each other more. You're going to see the person right next to you, the person in front of you, the person on the Zoom across from you, they have more in common with you than you actually think.

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If we could just set aside the differences that we have and focus on the things we have in common, the world would be a wonderful place. That's what happened with Peter King and I when we were talking, and he said he didn't realize he was on a podcast at the moment. We were just talking about how we like to wash dishes. He said he likes to fold clothes. He says he likes to make his bed, which I think is a total waste of time. But I'm not focusing on that difference. I'm focusing on our commonalities. The two of us both enjoy washing dishes. I want you guys swaying next to each other as you pass over the dish to dry, like a married couple would.

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Put it on the pole, please, JuJu, is making your bed a total waste of time at Levitard show.

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Did he ever say anything bad about Peter King in the past?

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No.

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Never. That's just the thing, okay? He says he's playing the long game because the long game ends with that's the victory. They wash dishes together, and he's protecting that because God bless football is compromised, biased, not a journalist. How dare you, sir? What are you.

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Talking.

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About? What are you talking about? Sir? What? Not a journalistic entity. What do you mean? But yet... Yet yet you keep getting rewarded for it with international acclaim that makes you surpass Peter King according to The Guardian's rankings on being a football expert. You are scared of the Bills. Don't lie to me. We are trying around here, Stugatz- He.

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Dropped the dude.

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And he's scared. We are trying to do a new journalism. Yeah. Billy wants to be the modern version of what Peter King is.

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I do?

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The modern version. And Mike is a genuine insider. He knows what's going on in the portal. He is in the business of it. I just want to do.

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Dishes, man.

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Mike Ryan, I want 90 seconds of good insider information from new media. You're a booster. You're also a businessman. You're an information person. And we're compromised. Well, he's another one, another compromised journalistic entity. Some might call it evolution. I call it.

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Totally biased. I am not a journalist either. I'm just a member of the media, but I am not a journalist.

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Don Lebertard.. Now they're going to see a different Jimmy. Now he's just playing. Niko back in the locker room and… Stugats. Now, play-d and show-threes as they.

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Chase the.

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Net for the succeed. These five words in his head, scream my way to win in games yet.

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This is the Dan Levator Show with the Stugats.

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However, your information is very good, and Lucy and Jessica have been inside of the business understanding what's happening in the portal. I've been learning because I don't… You have to understand. I'm watching a business change in front of me. It's disorienting. I don't understand. What do you mean? Quarterbacks are now two and three million dollars. Where are the numbers? I can't believe that we're making it this overt where Desmond Ridder has paid less than some of the better quarterbacks who teams are now fighting for because what a great investment Stugart. I can fill my stadium. Carolina Panthers can't fill their stadium right now. I can fill my stadium if I just give a quarterback $2 million.

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Also, if I can get other people to give a quarterback $2 million because you get the benefits of filling your stadium, you get that TV contract, and someone else pays for the labor, so the injustice is still around. You talk about transparency and how this is a business now. A couple days ago, several days ago, Matt Rule addressed media, and he was asked directly because they've been in the market for a quarterback about what is this quarterback market.

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Make no mistake that a good.

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Quarterback in the.

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Portal costs a million, to a million, five to two million to $2.2 million right now. So just one to say page.

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Let's.

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Make sure we all understand what's happening.

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There are some teams that have six or seven million dollars playing for them.

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That's accurate. That's right around what the marketplace is for a quarterback. As you mentioned, guys like Damian Ritter and Brock Purdy, yeah, there are several college football quarterbacks that are making more money than starting NFL quarterbacks these days. I don't necessarily think that's right, but that's the marketplace that we're in right now. Matt Rule.

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Didn't Nebraska just get a giant recruit? What's that backstory?

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Ryeola. Yeah, they flipped him from Dylan Ryeola, was the nation's number one quarterback commit. He hasn't flipped, but he got what is in recruiting terms called the Crystal Ball, which is apropos for our head coach, but a Crystal Ball projection that he's going to Nebraska, and those are fairly strong in that industry. In this game, Matt Rule in one year has aligned his resources and been able to flip a five-star quarterback from the present two-time defending national champion that is a sea change, and it shows you that Nebraska will have the resources to compete, and they are in the big ten presently with a huge, juicy TV deal, and that is their economy. They're investing in their economy, and that's a pretty big step for Nebraska.

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I know it's weird, Dan, to have college quarterbacks making more than some NFL quarterbacks. It's weird. It's going to take a minute to get used to it, but I'm okay with it from this standpoint. You have teams or programs like Syracuse, who never had a chance at getting a kid like Kyle McCord, the Ohio State quarterback. Now because Ohio State has three or four good quarterbacks and they have new ones coming in every year, McCord thinks he's not going to play. Syracuse has the money to get McCord, and now Kyle McCord is the Syracuse quarterback. It's more opportunity for.

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More programs. Van Dyk is now at Wisconsin. You're going to have to win in the margin some with this because this is such a sea change to God. Nebraska doesn't have any preordained right to be great at football, but they built it. Lincoln, Nebraska is a place because Cornhusker Football was winning championships at a time in America where the business was hidden and Tom Osborne can rule the earth, beating Barry Switzer and the option offense. Now Nebraska has to evolve into this modern version. They hired Scott Frost to guide. They were going to do it with, Hey, let's get the hot new coach. Oh, never mind. The whole business has changed. Now let's go get the failed pro coach from Carolina, and he's going to tell everybody, Hey, if you want me to actually be good at this, I need more money. They're all panhandling. They're panhandling to make their programs better.

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I mean, the panhandling is a great point because there have been coaches with varying results. Leighton Kifen for the last three years has taken the opportunity every time to basically fundraise and say, We need more to compete here. Dave Dorin, the NC State head coach, they were about to be talent rated. Nc State has totally turned their season around. He sounded the klaxon. We need to keep our guys. We need people to compete in NIL. They kept a wide receiver and Conception that a lot of teams were in on. They got a quarterback from Coastal Carolina that they beat out UCF for. This is basically politics. It's fundraising in that sense. Matt Rule is doing a pretty good job of it.

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So far. What I like about it is that this year, if you look at the three quarterbacks that were invited to the Heisman ceremony, they were all transfers who had a more or less a tough time with their first choices. Like, Bonics had a really tough time at Auburn, was not a great player, transfers to Oregon, ends up putting up insane numbers and does really well, becomes a Heisman finalist. Same with Michael Pennex, same with Jaden Daniels, had a really tough go of it at Arizona State, like we've talked about before. And so there's opportunities for players. Maybe you made the wrong choice or it wasn't the right fit for you at whatever school you ended up going to, but then you transfer and you end up in the right situation with the right coach and the right team for you, and you have an opportunity to have a little bit of a second chance in your career. Going back to Rayola for a second, this went viral on messageboard geniuses on Twitter. Great account. They rake through all the college football message boards and find the most just unhinged posts.

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It's been a lot of F. S. U.

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Lately. That's true. And this was after Dylan Rayola was rumored to be thinking of flipping to Nebraska. The header of this post from the Dog's HQ message board is, Does anyone here work at Hart's Field Jackson Airport? And then the post says, It's being reported that Rayola will visit Nebraska on Friday. I assume that he'll take the 2:21 PM Delta flight, which is also the last flight of the day to the state. Therefore, if this flight gets canceled, he likely won't be able to make the trip and will stay committed to UGA. Obviously, messing with commercial flights is a slippery slope, so I'm not suggesting that anybody does anything illegal. But does anyone here work for Delta? If some loyal UGA pilots or flight attendants call in sick at the last minute, the flight could be canceled and we could keep Rayola. Maybe someone working could hold the flight up for maintenance issues? At the very least, he could, quote, lose his checked bags, so you have to experience the Nebraska winter without.

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A jacket. Not suggesting that.

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I'm just spitballing ideas. But if anyone has anything else, those would also be appreciated.

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All right. Let me take a step back here, Stugat, on how it is that we're covering this stuff, because she just brought up a lot of things there. I want to get to Mike giving us the latest information on what it is that's happening at the University of Miami where they need to get a quarterback. And it seems like they've got an all or nothing plan. And Stugat, when I look at what is happening in that sport, kids get to the wrong fit. Whether it's Bo Nicks, I thought it was the right fit. It was a beautiful story. His dad played there. It was a beautiful story. It was a story. Now they have more freedom and more options. And so the sport is hard to play. The position is hard to play. They arrived as kids, and the three Heisman finalists had to find a new place where they learned and got more reps outside of Indiana, going to other cities, playing bigger football, using the pipeline to the way it's supposed to be used, minor league business that gets you to the pros. It's great that they have those options. It's wonderful that they have those options.

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But the whole thing is changing, where we're paying kids that were 17 or 18 years old, $2 million and changing their life instantaneously. Coming out of high school and we're covering it like we used to do with... We're all now the recruiting letters because this is a bigger thing and we care so much about Saturdays, we're all Tom Lemmings now, and we're more and more comfortable going younger and younger into the pipeline where you're paying kids and changing lives and bringing to these lives some unscrupulous behavior, Stugat, because Mike's got information here on what a school is doing to make sure that it can get the kids and win in the margins if they don't have the money, the places you have to do shady business.

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Yeah, I would like to say, and I know that you know this, Dan, but many in our audience who are just listening to your take may feel like you're conflating NIL with shady business practices in college football. No, those have always been around. There's a bit more transparency now, and in terms of the people providing resources, that net is wider. In some respects, loose lips sink ships, and other universities that had these tight circles where things could stay within the circle have had to expand their circles, and then you get more things like message for geniuses over there. But for example, I know where you were leading me to, there's an SEC power that one of their moves, if they're recruiting a kid, is occasionally they might enforce some influence in the penal system and see how they can help out a relative that might be behind bars. That is a move that is old. That is not some new thing that NIL has brought forth. The does need a market correction. We're going to get to some sound from Chip Kelly, who's a really bright guy, and he has some thoughts about where college football should head.

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I'm very curious to get your thoughts on it because I think this is the closest thing to a good solution that I've heard, and it's coming from someone that had to move to the big tend to compete. But since this is still technically the local hour, let's briefly talk about Miami's Chase right now, which is extended well beyond several deadlines that they have instituted. They had both Will Howard and Cam Ward in on campus last week.

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They would tell- Can I stop you? I'd like bells and whistles on this because this seems like it's coming here, Hot and Heavy Stugats. I'm telling you, Miami has in Mike Ryan, an insider, unlike the Barry Jacksons and the Scoop Slators, Mike is inside this machine. Can we make this? This is big news. Mike Ryan has the latest in recruiting information.

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That's.

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Not-.

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Yeah.

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I mean- He wanted bells and whistles, though.

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Yeah, well, you got this. What is that? It's a bubble. And if you're in the know, there's a lot of great reporters that follow Miami, so a lot of this stuff is public knowledge, such as the visits from Will Howard and Cam Ward. Where we are is Miami had a Thursday at three o'clock deadline, and as week unfolded, that actually got shifted up to Wednesday. And now it's still... The word was Cam Ward wanted to make a decision yesterday. That still hasn't happened. I can tell you genuinely, I have no idea who Miami's quarterback is going to be. If I had to guess, I'd venture a guess, but they could have had Will Howard, the Kansas State quarterback. They could have had him. They would tell people last week that there really isn't a difference between these two quarterbacks. They rate them both. But Will Howard was ready to commit then and there. If there was no difference, then why not just take the commitment from Will Howard? Seems to me like there is internally a bit of a difference in how they rate Cam Ward and Will Howard. The evolution on it is it appears since a five-star quarterback that is presently on USC's roster has entered the portal, that'd be a pretty big indicator that a new talent is coming in.

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The most recent reports have Will Howard going to USC. Where Miami stands in right now with Cam Ward is, Cam Ward, unless there's a mystery school out there, and I guess you could throw Ohio State in the mix, even though I haven't heard anything with regards to them and Cam Ward, is the decision for Cam Ward is Miami or F. S. U. That is not news.

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What is Miami's backup.

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Plan, Mike? Miami's backup plan was Will Howard, and that's gone to USC. What? I guess a name that has been bounced around has been K. J. Jefferson, or you just retain your guys and you develop them, or maybe just wait till the spring.

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I liked him. I liked K. J.

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Jefferson. I liked him outside of Dan Inos.

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From Arkansas. He's been there for.

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10 years.

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Okay, who cares? I mean, I liked him outside of Daniel- I thought, Okay, who cares? I mean, I liked him outside of Daniel-'s offense. But where Miami stands right now is they're in a recruiting... Well, it used to be called the recruiting battle. Now it's a negotiation with Cam Warren and his reps, and it's been reported on what he is looking for there. Ironically enough, even though Miami is reputed to be this big NIL school, when it comes to that position, Florida State is as competitive as anyone in the nation. You have a school in Florida State that desperately needs a win because players are jettisoning left and right. It'll be a great battle.

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All right, I want to talk to this Chip Kelly sound and video that we've teased before because I think it's a pretty good solution with where things are headed because it's pretty wild right now. It's been dubbed the Wild West by head coaches in front of microphones who used to have an honor amongst thieves about them. They're just openly saying, Yeah, this is a bit crazy. A lot of coaches are telling you by staying in the prose or leaving. Joe braided was a hot name in college football circles. That guy could have had plenty of head coaching jobs. He wanted to be a quarterbacks coach at Carolina, and he's now presently turning around the Buffalo Bills as their OC. There is really no big-time rewards outside of money when it comes to college football coaching. But Chip Kelly has seen the lay of the land. He's seen a lot of other coaches take his style and improve on it. He's a pretty good veteran, savvy veteran of the game, and he's watched all this happen, and he has a couple of possible solutions.

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What is the biggest issue that you might have right now? Whether it be realignment.

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Nil, transfer portal?

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What would your plan.

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Maybe be to.

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Try to solve it?

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I think they're all a problem, and I think we need to have a conference commissioner. I think football should be separate from the other sports. Just the fact that our school is leaving to go to the big ten in football. Our softball team should be playing Arizona and softball. Our basketball team should be playing Arizona and basketball. But because football left and they'll say, Well, how do you do that? Well, Notre Dame is independent in football, and they're in a conference and everything else. I think we should all be independent in football. You can have a 64-team conference that's in the power five, and you can have a 64-team conference in the group of five, and we separate and we play each other. You can have the West Coast teams, and then every year we play seven games against the West Coast teams, and then we play the East. We play Syracuse, Boston College, Pit, West Virginia, Virginia. Then the next year you play against the South while you still play your seven teams. You can play seven game schedule. You can play four against another division opponent, and you can always play against one Mountain West team every year so that we can still keep those rivalries going.

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Not that I've really thought about this, not that I've a lot of spend of time on this, but I think if you went together collectively as a group and said there's 132 teams and we all share the same TV contract, so that the Mountain West doesn't have one and the Sunbelt doesn't have another and the SEC has one and they have another, that we all go together, that's a lot of games and there's a lot of people in the TV world that would go through it. You can sponsor each one. Instead of calling it Group of Five and Power Five, you can call it Amazon, Nike, bid that out to things, a lot of different things. But I think if we still do the same thing and take all that money and I would do this, and I think this needs to be done, that money now needs to be shared with the student-athletes, and there needs to be revenue sharing. The player should get paid and you can get rid of NLA and the school should be paying the players because the players are what the product is. And the fact that they don't get paid is really the biggest travesty.

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Not that I've thought about it.

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Stugat, this is interesting because of who's saying it. Okay, I know he's fallen off the map. I know he's no longer Visionary. He's a very genius. But once upon a time, right next to Nike's founder, he met Oregon Matter at football. And we were all like, Why? Why would that matter? Well, Nike got into the college football business and they hired this guy, Visionary. He'll monitor your sleep. He'll do all sorts of smoothie, nutrient testing. He's a savant. And then he goes to the Philadelphia Eagles, chews him up, spits him out the side of the business. But he's still that competitive guy, and he's still the guy that the business chews up, but he's super smart and he cares deeply about competing. There he is just laying it naked bare. Yeah, just turn it into the giant football business. It's what it already is. Stop hiding from it. Let's play all each other. Let's all grab the TV money, and let's all be greedy and I'll be Chip Kelly, revolutionary here, changing the business because I want to be ahead of the game. That guy is not going to get tired and just retire fat and lazy.

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He's losing right now, Stugatz. He's losing. Hei went, he was at the top of the sport, the top of the mountain, and now he's sliding down the other end and he's got to keep up in the money game. And what he's telling you is, Let's just do this out in front of everybody. Let's just make it giant conference, football, minor leagues, XFL, USFL will dominate forever. Just make me the CEO of this part.

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Of the business. Amazon and Adidas. What a great idea.

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First of all, Chip Kelly is a winner. He won the L. A. Bowl this weekend, presented by Grunk against Boise State big win with their backup quarterback after their other... Well, I guess they're all backups, right? Everyone's a backup. There's so many players in the portal. It's hard to keep track of the bowl games. Anyways, I had Boise State. He brings up so many things in this two-minute clip. First, he says that college football needs a commissioner. That's something that a lot of college football fans and media have been saying for a long time, especially during 2020, the COVID year, when every conference had their own plan for what to do. It was an absolute abject disaster and a humongous cluster. I don't ever foresee a situation in which all the conferences agreed to elect a commissioner, and that person would be like the Roger Goodell of College football, and everyone would hate them. But it is crazy that College football doesn't have an organizing body that monitors all the different conferences and has a rules that all the conferences have to abide by. We saw this with Jim Harba and his Big Ten punishment.

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If he had done that in the SCC this season, they might have a completely different punishment for him because all the conferences operate somewhat independently. The other thing he mentions is paying a revenue share to players, which I think a lot of people have been advocating for for a while. I don't think that that should be in lieu of NIL because I still think players should be able to earn money off of their name, image, and if they're famous. Why wouldn't you be? But then you get into the problem of if players are legal employees of the universities, which is something that's been going on in the courts for a while. Right now there's some momentum for the NLRB to make a decision on it. But there was a lawsuit earlier this year that ended in a bit of a standstill on the cause that was in California. So that doesn't seem like anything that's going to happen, immediately. And then there's like, everyone should be we should have a mega conference thing, and we should do all the two conferences, and we play against each other. And he.

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Lost me with that. Ucla, playing Pit in West Virginia. I was like, Where are we? If you're on.

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The West Coast, the whole point should be to keep things somewhat regionally standardized because it's putting a lot of stress on budgets and on players and on traveling like that. I was like, Okay, why don't we... I have an idea. We have five power conferences based on geography, and you play against the teams in your power conference, so you don't have to fly from L. A. To Rutgers on a Saturday. But I don't know. He brought up a lot of really good points, though. And I think it's important that College of Ball coaches start to wait into these territories. The other thing is that there's now a lawsuit in Oregon over Title IX because there are female student athletes in Oregon that are claiming that they haven't been given the same NIA opportunities as their male counterparts. And now I think Title IX problems are going to be forefront in this discussion as well, because college football gets so much roster spots, so many resources. And we already know that a lot of schools, in fact, most schools don't follow Title IX requirements. But I'm interested to see what happens with this lawsuit, because it's fairly obvious that college football is such a big business.

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The universities are making so much money off of their rights. This is going to be a big problem.

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Down the road. And they're rewriting the rules as they go. And it's worth it. You do understand, Stugach, right? Whatever Jim Harball was doing, cheating or not cheating, worth it. Yes, of course. Totally worth it. Yes.

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They'll vacate a championship from him in five years and no one will care.

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But I'm saying once you strip all the morality out of it-.

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Jess, were you out of breath?

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I had three special shots this morning.

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Jessica- You asked me to talk about college football. You have never held the ball that long. That's the longest you have ever held the ball. I wanted to get it all out. You were dribbling 100,000 miles an hour.

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With no one to pass it. You were.

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Dribbling in circles. And we're all looking- You were out of breath. And Jim Kelly wasI'm all looking at you. What happened? Is it the coffee?

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He brought.

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Up so many things. I wanted to talk about everything. I wanted to talk about the L. A. Bull presented by Grunk.

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Okay, but did you at any point in there become self-conscious saying, I am dribbling 100 miles an hour and I've been talking for two straight minutes.

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The second deep breath.

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I'm more worried that coffee now makes me out of breath. That's not something that used to.

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Happen to me. I thought it was a stamina thing, though. I thought what was happening there, you correct me if I'm wrong, I may have it wrong, I've never had this clear an angle at seeing you in the back row because it's usually hidden behind somebody. I believe what happened there is you could have done a full show on just what Chip Kelly said. And I will.

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I'm Gen CFB. Cfb, coming to your.

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Screen, Thursday. Well, this is... I don't know what we're going to do about this because we've got two forms of journalism over here.

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What happened to footgirls?

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Well, what did happen to footgirls? You know.

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What happened to footgirls.

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Mike Ryan is over here, and I want to pin you down on this, Mike. Tell me the University of Miami. I was hoping they would get in the game for Toa's brother. The University of.

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Miami- They were in the game for Toa's brother, Dan. But to answer your question, Toa is actively trying to find a year of eligibility that no one thinks is there, but he and his family feels pretty strongly they can.

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Find one. To his brother, not Toa.

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Yeah, to his brother. Well, to his family, certainly.

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I feel like Brock Purdy should come back. Someone should have eligibility that's not making that much money in the NFL and come back and.

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Play, right? Or use it as leverage.

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Yeah. I'm going to leave the NFL because NAL money is so much that I can make more money playing for college, and I'll go back to the NFL. Brock Purdy is starting at Boise.

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Next year. I can't wait.

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For that day. Mike, please, because some of these quarterbacks are making more than Brock Purdy.

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A lot. I would say in college football last year, somewhere between five and 10 starting college quarterbacks were making more than Brock Purdy.

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All right, so give me, please, a reported range because this is a news and information segment because Jessica has got a lot of information. But you have to have better news than her. If I pin you down on what's it going to cost roughly for the University of Miami to get in the quarterback game here with its best option, give me a wide range there of.

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What that costs. It was reported that this was put out by Kim Ward's reps, and a lot of reputable sites ran with it that he was looking for something in the neighborhood of two to two and a half, which would have been outside of the Rishada thing that ended up on- It would have set the market, correct? It would establish a new high when it came to that market. I don't think that's exactly where the market is going to be for him. I think it'll fall in line between somewhere where FSU paid for their last quarterback and the number that he's asking for. I think that's where it'll settle. That's just not based off of any first-hand stuff, but just generally how these conversations and how the reporting has been done on CamWord, I think those schools are willing to do that.

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Here's some news for you, Dan. Notre Dame got a wide receiver from FIU. Pause up.

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Pause.

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Down. What happened, Billy? Billy, how have you felt about the last 15 minutes?

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I hate it. I hate the portal, if that's what you're asking me, because my team loses all of their GD good players.

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I think it's a grab transfer, though.

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You are a minor League. He's good.

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He set this year the record for receiving yards in a season, and the quarterback play wasn't the best. We need it so bad. Be excited to pass ty Hilton and some others on the.

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On-time list. I'm so excited. Billy, FIU is the minor leagues for the big business of football. How dare you. I don't like that. Itry to- You're not getting any players coming to FIU.

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You can't do that again.

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They're going elsewhere. How did you just feel, though, about Jessica dribbling the ball for two straight minutes, 100 miles an hour?

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That was fine with it. Didn't bother me.

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I learned from the best. I love you, Billy.

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Me?

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Mom? I don't know, Billy. I'm coming for your throne.