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Dan today's the day the quarantine is. I'm exercising today's Monday. We're starting the exercise program today, Mike. No, you're not. Yeah, we are.

No, you're not. You know, you're picking the worst possible time to start.

I know the holiday season. Thanksgiving's a couple of weeks away and then you'll just kick the can down the road because you realize, well, I'm not going to do it right before the holidays because there's so much food then.

And then, you know what ends up happening. Chris, you and every other Giambrone goes to the gym after New Year's.

Now I'm beaten up by two months. I will be jogging at like twelve forty five. Today I wait.

I think we have to do every Seagate's unsurprisingly is text me that he is going to be fifteen minutes late so we can go ahead and start without him. Oh yeah. Maybe I'll go ahead and start with your revelation about working out is the perfect person to be here for this because he's right.

He's on this tip right now. He's been on it. He's ahead of me on this.

What up happened? I was thinking of starting today as the holiday seasons appear to start the diet today, he just dismisses you with a laugh.

No one has ever made me want to go vegan more than Baley Karlan's. I hope that's all right with you. Photos that he posts on Twitter on this.

This guy, his meals need to get over themselves.

These meals, I mean, this pretentious recipes works.

The most pretentious recipe I could create right now made it look good. I'm not going to lie. I don't want to talk smack like they do. Look is that he used to be like a chef or something. The way he prepares this, I don't know.

I think he's authoring a cookbook. Is there a correlation between Stuart's being late and Dan being off today?

Stewart's never seems whenever I give him, like a little bit of a break, like today's an eight o'clock as opposed to seven, 40. Any time I give him a little bit of a break, he's always late. Yeah, I have to be, like, super regimented, because even if he's a little late by 740, OK, it's a 750 start. It's right he wanted to do it from home. I'm like, the show is already considerably worse with than being out.

Why would you willingly make it worse? What is it? It's just are you not a professional? Is it is it a substitute teacher day? Oh, out. So I can be from home. Like what? I don't understand why his brain works that way. Danz out. Why do you feel like you have to come in the studio specifically. Because the hands here you do. Right, that's body.

And then he hit you with a buddy when you. I don't know what he said after, when you hit him with the No but it body.

I just you know, what's your possible excuse. He sounds like garbage when he's on remote. Yeah, he's not he's certainly not an engineer. What the studio is hoping.

Why would you willingly want to make do you not care?

I guess we'll get started in earnest when Billy joins in. Because I do want to get you to excitement, oh, I'm not going to do what you all think I'm going to do, which is just shit on you young quarterback, because you're shat on mine. That's the team obviously got some energy from that. But I will say it didn't look good. I mean, come on. No, no, no, no. That's not even what I'm going to say.

What I'm going to say is. It should be Brian for his day, not to a tug of Vilo a day. Yeah, and it's not even that it's defense death.

Yeah, but Brian Floor is very clearly seems to own Sean McVay just on'em they were out, out, gained obviously by three hundred and twenty six yards by the Rams, which is the most in the NFL this season. And it was. A ho hum victory at home, they scored in every single phase of the game. To us through the second quarter, that stretch in the second quarter was like, say, three Back-To-Back touchdowns on like crazy plays.

It's insane.

The Fox Graphics person can't even keep up with what the hell's going on because of how great the Fox Graphics person just assumed that the Rams were marching into the end zone. The unexpected happens and we were next.

And then the next touchdown they show the graphic of the guy who scored that last touchdown like they were a touchdown behind everything.

They were just they were just chasing the entire time. It's like they kept everything in drafts and they fired off immediately and not knowing.

I will say this is not I really hope that this is not taken into like me shitting on him. But I did hear the commentator. Whoa, what accuracy. It was like a six year throw down the middle of the field.

Oh, no, I was right there with them. Oh, I saw the four or five plays I needed to with the accuracy it was I saw it.

It was a I guess, a decent throw, especially for a shorter quarterback over the line.

It's a tough he looks scared. He looks scared out there at point there really. I mean, not scared, but just like it was just like, OK, this is his first game. I'm glad we're getting this out of the way because he needs to look better in this, which he will. Yeah, but I think like a lot of those, I'm a little worried about his safety. I don't know, man.

It's a lot is to it this incredible athlete that I wasn't aware of because the arpeggios actually make more. Is that just gayly sticking to his playbook because they make more sense with Fitzpatrick than they do with Tawa.

But it's honestly, those are more run pass options for it's either a handoff or a quick slant throw. Like very rarely does that turn into him running. But but that's like his specialty.

That's Chan Gailey thing.

Well, even that Alabama, like I heard somebody saying that like a week ago, I was listening to some guy who broke them down in Alabama, like nobody threw the slant run pass option better than to in terms of like anticipating that one touchdown to Devante Parker was kind of that it wasn't it RPO.

But just anticipating that slant, I guess what I'm taking exception to is every time he would hand it off, he would still flank out to the left. And I'm guessing in two is like lifetime. He's maybe had a QB keeper. You can count on one hand the times that he actually needs to act that out. If I'm a defense playing him, I just totally sell out like you're not taking it outside. If you take it out, John, God help you.

Jonathan Vilma was one hundred percent buying into the hype like there were a few throws to a made where it's like he's one of the few people in the league that can make that throw. And I'm like, is he I don't know about that. Like, I like your enthusiasm. That's what you're.

Yeah, because Vilma was, like, super effusive in the praise of the Devante Parker touchdown.

I'm like, OK, it's it's on the money. It's actually a better catch than throw. Yes. When you consider how interfered Devante Parker was on that play, but he was just like, really all aboard. I don't know if that's him being a Miami guy, but he was all aboard it and he just fueled it. I was getting texted dolphin emojis from people I haven't heard from. Yeah, people are dolphins are feeling themselves.

Yeah. The craziest part the biggest story to me was just the fact that we turned Jared Goff into like Nathan Peterman. Yeah. Like, I think you're totally right. It was Brian Flores. And I know. But that scheme, dude, before they had him looking, he he doesn't always look that terrible at the Dolphins scheme deserves a lot of credit for that.

Well, I think it's maybe they protect him from looking that terrible. Right. Because of the the scheme that they run, which is so run heavy. I mean, there's splits on run and passer like really skewed, which makes me think like, what if McVay had an actual legit quarterback, like if he had the Shaun Watson, let's say, how good would that scheme be?

It was crazy how it was crazy how Vilma was criticizing Goff so much. As much as he was praising Tua, every single time Goff drops back, he's like, oh, he can't do that. That's not his style. It's like he can't just do a five at three step drop. Like since when did Goff become this terrible quarterback that can only live outside the pocket? I guess I just don't watch a lot of Rams games.

That was one of the meanest picks, by the way, Rams, minivans and the under, did she go with that under like she's had a rough weekend, Mina fell back down to earth in spectacular fashion.

I picked a wrong time. The other unit plays on Omine.

Dan Dang. I blame Dan for that. She had her own three on formal plays on four. If you played the the Under and the Bears Saints game. This is such a bad beat. Such a bad beat.

The Chargers man I got said, I hate gambling, I got the Chargers screwed me, man, I got so hard on NFL Monday morning to straight up or it's like a minus three with a parlay.

And I hit every other game. It was like Paletta. Yeah, it was like a twenty five dollar parlay to win, like because I like to throw in every Sunday little cup of fun parlays just forever and I only the chart I it was like twenty five to win like six fifty and the Chargers were like the only thing they lost.

Oh yeah. Best. Oh, yeah, there were a lot of statistical anomalies like the Rams, how gaining the Dolphins by three hundred and twenty six yards, which is the biggest discrepancy in the NFL and didn't really feel like they were in it after after that defensive touchdown, that was the score outside of that stretch in the second quarter where the Dolphins just got like three touchdowns back to back to back.

Like, obviously I can do the math, but like they lose if not for that ridiculous just. Oh, man, that defense. They looked like this the. Oh, man, that defense was, what, twenty seventeen.

The second quarter. The second quarter. Miami outscored the Rams twenty one to three. The Rams. Outscored them the rest of the way, by I mean, but not much, the third quarter was scoreless in the fourth quarter. The Rams had a touchdown to hold on the Dolphins scoreless, but it seemed it came across on television. I told you that there was a bunch of demand for those tickets, came across on television like there was a legit atmosphere for that game, especially when crazy things.

But everyone was just telling me what is happening. Oh, my God. And yeah, and it's good to get a lot of the credit. I mean, twelve of twenty two for ninety three yards and a touchdown, he didn't have to do much to our people, giving to a lot of credit.

I feel like people are realizing that this game was that he got that defense, stole the show in this game. I think I mean, maybe I'm wrong.

I just think that it just adds to the overall excitement. He wasn't great by any stretch of the imagination. He didn't have to be. He also didn't show you that he was bad by any stretch of the imagination either. You just you just didn't need him. Hey, Billy, Seagate's is unsurprisingly fifteen minutes late. So we're trying to have a casual conversation about the the game yesterday before we get into Sucrets is take itude. But I was making the argument that while it was to a day that Brian floor is really kind of stole the show and I don't I don't know.

I'm not a big subscriber to Dolphins Twitter. I assume that a lot of the Twitter people are still Dolphins fans, but was it still Tuesday after the game or was Brian Flores getting some of the shine? Deservedly so. I mean, I manual, I thought he if it wasn't Brian Flores this day was Manuel Auguste de Oro. It's also nice to see David Howard and Brian Jones healthy. That gives them a lot of flexibility to blitz. But I don't know.

Billy, what do you think of the madness yesterday? Who's wrote Eric Ro? He's one of our DHBs that they got from the patron. They are giving someone a nickname, calling someone. Hello? No, I didn't see the game. Wow.

Oh, my God. How could you I text you yesterday. I was like I was. You really were. I thought you were super into it on your ECG.

Saw you put up a still of two.

Yeah. Called playing the game.

You did OK. Sometimes life gets in the way. Busy day yesterday. I checked in a couple of times and it was a blowout and then I saw to it wasn't spectacular. And I saw the reports, Chris, that, you know, we had kind of said maybe this is what's going on, is they're seeing what they have in to. And if two is what they think, the two is, because they're going to have a high pick at the next draft and they need to figure out what they have in him.

I'm glad you mentioned that. Ryan Fitzpatrick dressed in a Hawaiian shirt, too. They walked in together.

That was that was cool. I'm glad that you mention that article because you guys did send it to me over the weekend and he's like, you guys are assholes. You laughed at me. Billy kept up for us. You got his argument. And he's absolutely right. This Stewart decision is in part because since they have such a high pick with the Texans, the Texans have had an impossibly difficult schedule to start their season. Now, the Dolphins conceivably could be in the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes depending how some results go.

So they want to be able to have the evaluation on TEWA entering this draft pick where there's still a shot that they draft No one. So in so many words, Sigurdson was right. Holy bleep Sucrets was right.

I would be and say that they ended up right. Wholely still got choice. Right.

Well, Chris, you're the biggest Dolphins fan here, so why would you take the rest of the season with a game like the one that happened yesterday, or do you would you rather to have. Well, I guess it's obvious you'd rather to have a Joe burro type season to take that amount of wins. I know that you have something to say.

I don't like I don't feel obviously this is not a bold statement, but there's no big future with Ryan Fitzpatrick. So I'm not going to get fooled by that little two game or three game winning streak we had before to this whole season is about the to a plan. This is bigger than Ryan Fitzpatrick. Like Mike said. We got to figure out we could end up with a top five pick. So we got to just see what we have to it like.

I am good. Just punting on a potential playoff run to see what to is.

I made the pick. Doesn't matter. Right, because you have the Texans picks. As long as the Texans are bad, it doesn't matter how good you are. And what I'm asking is more, would you rather have a successful winning season the way that you had a game yesterday and still not know what to is or just, you know, miss the playoffs, go seven and nine, let's say, and to, you know, has a Joe Burrard type season.

That would be obviously great. So you're saying he ends up playing better, but they don't get the results they got yesterday. So he plays well and they lose or they play he doesn't play well and they win.

That's that's an, I guess, area.

I think if I follow the hypothetical is you have like one of these win loss records that maybe reflects the bears you get to the playoffs because you do the little things like special teams, touchdowns, defensive touchdowns like you had yesterday. But each individual game, it sort of goes like this where you can't make an individual evaluation on tour just yet. Would you rather have a definitive answer on tour in the games that he's playing or bump that? Just give me the Dub's.

I'll take what happened yesterday. I'll be sure to I'll be unsure what to a wave of accuracy with the defense to sit with the defense being a dominant. If the dolphins actually have a dominant defense, I'll ride that out this season.

This is the opposite of what you were saying you wanted. Then you said the future is about to us. So if you have yesterday's game for the rest of the year and you make the playoffs, you're going to have no idea what you have in to.

But I believe in this scenario, I thought this is an easy scenario. Wow, this has become complex.

But in this scenario, Chris gets to extend the space that he's been living in for the last few months, which is he still has to in the chamber.

Yeah. So like you don't you still have hope in the chamber because you still don't know whether or not to is good.

So in this scenario where the Dolphins defense is dominating and the reason for the winds to is just a flat line, like he's not down, he's not up, he's just like they're kind of like being a game manager. I'm fine with that for once, I guess.

But then we got to know about Trevor. If it's the Texans, like now I'm confused.

I don't know. This is a confusing I just want to win and I want to to be great.

Can we have is that. No, that's not.

I mean, sure, but that was the one where you cursing Cam Newton when he fumbled because now you're looking at the division. This is a legitimate playoff chase. That's a good win over the Rams. I know it's it's hard to travel from west to east and on a one o'clock start, especially on a shorter week for the Rams. But that's a quality win. The Miami Dolphins have really quality wins going on the road to San Francisco. They look like a playoff team.

I didn't think that they were very good. And then the streak got rattled off. And they're one of the more impressive sides, a little bit streaky maybe under Brian Flores's tenure. But when this team buys in, they have some of these inexplicable victories and lumped that one in. I thought the Rams were better then than the Dolphins.

The stats might actually reflect that. I know. I believe so.

But Helmond, you're in this thing. Don't get too bogged down in the numbers. You're in a division that's a little bit weaker. You have the Patriots at home. They certainly look beatable. You have the the Buffalo Bills now. It's not into the teeth of Bills Mafia, but that's going to be a difficult one. Buffalo kind of feels like they finally have a shot at winning this division. But you're alive in that you have a game against them.

So I believe the Dolphins are, unless it's changed after yesterday's win, six to one to win the division. I feel like those are good betting on. I mean, I would agree, I think that I mean, if you want a long shot, they they can control they're not necessarily their own destiny because that just brings some level. But I mean, it's a it's a funky season where you're not going on the road and playing in the super hostile environments, as you're seeing right now with Clemson, a season, as you saw with the Patriots, a season can get totally wrecked by this virus.

So just get yourself in position for funny things to happen and not and I'm not even saying that the Miami Dolphins are a team that need the breaks to go their way on their own merit. They might be a playoff team, especially if there's an extension of the playoffs like there is this year. Why are you guys talking about winning the division after yesterday's game? Yesterday's game was somewhat like you're not going to have someone return a punt for a touchdown every week at Wambo recovery for a touchdown.

Every week, your quarterback threw for 90 yards like Warrane on the to a parade. But you just don't win the division. You're going to beat the bills all of a sudden to look good this year.

I mean, that offensive, that defensive performance yesterday by the Dolphins was legitimately impressive. I'm with you. I don't like nothing about two yesterday. Can you say, like, he's a thousand percent? The answer, he's a thousand percent. Going to take us to the playoffs this year. I'm with you on that. But the defense looked really good against a team that we thought was good. I think so. You know, I can't take away negatives from yesterday.

I'm with you that maybe it doesn't mean they're a Super Bowl contender, but I'm not going to be pooh poohing on them today. Come on. This is a good day. I mean.

The defense had their moments, but they gave four hundred seventy one yards, it was it was a statistical anomaly.

There's not a whole lot they had the ball to that that the Rams offense.

But in in in a season, you're going to want to have a lucky win. You didn't need to to do anything to win. That's fine.

I'm I'm not saying what I'm saying is what did you see from yesterday that you think you're going to win the division because defense defensive pressure.

I don't know, maybe it's not sustainable. Maybe they can't do that every game. Let me take a stab, even though I'm certainly not a Dolphin fan, but if I'm playing one and even just as a neutral, I faith in my coach, I had faith in my coach last year. This season kind of got off to a shaky start. And I wasn't exactly sure if last year was a flash in the pan. And he just got this ragtag group to buy into Fitz Magic and it got hot.

Or if he's a legitimately good coach, because, as you know, the book is out on these Bill Belichick assistance. He certainly has. Sean McVay says no. And now you look to your sideline and you feel confident. Look, he's match with his match wits against Belichick at Foxborough came away with an improbable win over Tom Brady's patriots. That might have changed the course of that franchise forever and made them pull the ripcord on Tom Brady a year early, which also helps the Dolphins.

This the Rams came in, favored everyone would pick them as the superior team. And you have that blowout in the second quarter specifically because what your defense is once again doing the Sean McVay is offense, a repeat of what you saw in that Super Bowl. I feel really excited about my head coach right now, and I still have all the hope about to. We'll find out about to a later. I'm actually happy that I didn't have a bad performance from two.

I didn't have a good one, but I didn't need to decide. Brian Flores took the shine away from two, and I'm more than happy about that because I feel confident in this coach. Army to be flow, and even if you get to the playoffs and you can poke holes in it like you're a fraudulent one, like, for example, Cleveland Browns have an easy schedule this year. But if they make it to the playoffs, this administration can say, hey, we did something quantifiable that no one has done for 30 years.

You need to start stacking success. And Brian Floras just buys himself more time, more credibility, more capital with the fans and more more ownership within that locker room for players to actually buy in. So, all in all, yeah, it was a bit of a fluky performance, but you'll take those in a season, and that's just massive. Now in an NFL during a global pandemic where they've extended the playoffs by a position, a massive result for the Miami Dolphins.

Obviously, you can't predict turnovers for touchdowns, can't predict special teams touchdowns, but if you look at what the Rams have done this season and not to harp on the Rams a lot, but they're for four or five wins against the NFC East. And we obviously know that entire division is absolutely garbage. Right.

Are you doing the Billy thing? You're pooh-pooh in on this? No, it's not. It's not about pooh poohing it. It's just about looking. We think all the Rams, they're good. They've got this high flying offense, but they. Oh, my God, Aaron. Donald.

But if we go they at the at the time the Cowboys had that and it was good. But the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Giants and the Washington football team and then they beat the Bears like they're not that good. Yeah, that's not impressive. I it's not impressive. Right. It just they have this high flying, you know, theory that. Oh yeah. And all these people. But when it comes down to like they may just not be a good football team, it's not pooh poohing.

I just ask you and you said you're talking about winning the division and I'm asking you what you saw yesterday. You, like the defense, had a great game, but they gave up four hundred and seventy one yards. It's 20 yards less than the Chiefs got yesterday. It's one hundred and twenty yards more than the Seahawks got yesterday. And they drove. The ball is just kind of you know, they got lucky.

Yeah, but now point but don't break defense. Bilia What are you trying to say. The Rams. The Rams are a very good team. Is that is that what's happening here? The Rams aren't very good. Are we getting on? The Dolphins lost yesterday was a nice win.

No, Chris, Chris has the Dolphins winning the division as a result of yesterday's game.

The ball. I think Mike mentioned the winning part. I'm just I'm not like I'm just saying yesterday was a good thing. I am not going to take away negatives from yesterday with the agreement with you. That gave way a lot. They gave up a lot of yards. That's fine. But I'm just going to I'm not going to hear any of the negative.

I'm having a good day today.

I did not feel like a blow up, though. Like halfway through the game, it felt like a blowout. Right? Like it was like another another touchdown after another touchdown with special teams defense. It almost felt like the score was forty two to seven into it wasn't it wasn't. It was really close Tony.

And to your point, that also takes away from plays that you would want to evaluate tour with because the game situation was such that it's just sort of run this thing out at this point. Let's hold back, let's not put players in position, get hurt, let's just sit on this lead. So that also might have something to do with the a thoroughly unimpressive stat line from from to a target by Alloa. But I think the encouraging thing is if you look at the division, you have faith in your head coach being able to match wits with the bills, being able to take Josh Allen, who's a quarterback, not unlike Goff, that we have question marks.

There's been a bit of a reversion to the mean with with Josh Allen. You feel confident in your head coach because he's proven that he can go to rivals within the division and win on the road late in the season in cold weather games like he did with New England last year. I think the obvious problem is you feel good about your head coach, you feel good about your football team. There is a chance they could win the AFC East, although their schedule is pretty difficult the rest of the way.

You feel good about your GM and his ability to acquire and accumulate draft picks because they have a ton moving forward over the next two years. The the one the one question you wanted answered yesterday, though, so, you know, you have all of that. You just still don't know if you have a quarterback. And that's what was, you know, yesterday. That's what it was all about. Try saying that a couple of times. That's what yesterday was all of that.

And we still don't have the answer. I think that's the frustrating part to Dolphin fans like Greg.

What's you got? You're getting closer to answers on guys like Kristen Wilkins who made an impact plays in that game. Xabi and Howard had a rough year last year on the heels of getting that big contract. He's been lights out this year. So lights out that the dolphins are publicly refuting reports from Omar Kelly, which was a bad look, and he had to retract that statement. You made a signing in your head coach. You feel good about that.

Devante Parker went from bus to absolutely nailing that draft pick and now a key weapon in the continued growth and development. About to a while you entered this game hoping for an evaluation on the quarterback. You may not have gotten that, but you got an evaluation on some of the other high picks, Billy, in the game that you feel like you're winning.

Forty five to nothing. That seems like the time to let them loose, see what he can do. If you're not going to blow the lead, your defense is playing well. See what he can have, not just manage the game for the win and not put them in positions to make risky plays.

But it ended up being like a ten point game. Like if you come out there in the third quarter and start whipping it around instead of running the ball, that they could have gotten back in that game like, you know, especially early on when Aaron, Donald made that impact, play everyone's life flash before their eyes like, oh, my God, is this going to be the entire game?

And not that he was neutralized, but he didn't have that same impact. But I guess part of that was you were fearing, Aaron, Donald doing that. If you were just chucking it downfield, that plays great, because when it happened, every dolphin is, like, terrified and like, oh, my God, he's a bust. This is the worst. Like, we made a mistake. Justin Herbert. All the thoughts start happening and then after the game, you look back on it, it's like when your kid takes permanent marker and draws on the inside of your car when they're baby, you look back and you laugh on it.

Like now we can look back on that Aaron Donald play and be like, that was adorable.

Like how fun that was. It does it out that at four or five Justin Herbert comes out swinging the ball all over the field, that I lost the game. But that guy, he might be the best quarterback in this class.

Sorry, Herbert and Burrow burrow with a great win over the Tennessee Titans. This looks to be a very good class and you still have the outlier. Like someone's going to have to be the bust in this class. Is it? To us, the changes are still there.

Is Herbert going to play well enough that he's going to get into the wind fired? You didn't mean on starting him. They're not winning games. They have a quarterback. Is he going to lose his job because his rookie is too good? Right.

When people start saying, how are you not winning with this guy? Yeah, I think so. And that becomes overnight if he does get fired because they have what you're all hoping for, the good productive quarterback with a high ceiling on a rookie contract that becomes one of the more desirable jobs. And they have blown four straight games. Well, they won one of the games, but they have blown sixteen point leads for a month straight. It is impossible to do in that sport.

I'm actually surprised that the record didn't belong to the Falcons.

I do like that, though, that he's playing so well that people will start questioning why Lynn is not winning with him. And I think Bill is right. He's going to get fired. Oh, Anthony Ellins going to get fired.

If what happened to Fangio defense, he'll break his nose hangs at some point because there was very clearly blood on his sweater and he had a bandage over the bridge of his nose.

He has the vibe of a guy that just gets a bloody nose when he gets, like, real intense. Yeah, but there was a bandage over the bridge. Did did he headbutt somebody? This is not your a mile high blood thinner blood and I got a nosebleed because of the altitude. No, that was very clearly an impact injury that that occurred.

When coaches make bad coaching decisions, they look so much more dumb when they have the the face shield. You need to go with the mask if you're going to make decisions like Anthony Lynn was just standing on the sidelines looking confused, but his shield over his face, you just look ridiculous.

Did you guys like my career breaking down with the telestrator on the last play, that game, the Broncos game, where he said he got his left cheek in and he's circling on the screen like there is his cheek down. That's a good touchdown.

I learn something new. Every football from the plane, I learn something new. Every football sign, the shin that's a shin. A shin equals a knee or shin equals two feet. I had no idea.

As somebody who had the Chargers minus three and a parlay, that official waving incomplete on that final play is one of the most infuriating things I've ever. I was like the referees. It's like no catch, no catch them. Like I think it's a catch, but thank God. And then they reverse it.

Like, that's that frustrated me. It was a bad habit.

I had to walk a line, though. It was it was like standing ten feet the opposite way. I was like, why? Why are you calling it one of those things where I knew it was a touchdown but just him waving? No, it gave me that glimmer of like like what did I miss?

Horrible pass interference also leading to that. Gosh. Oh, terrible. Right. How do you make that call with the game on the line when Chris has the Chargers minus three, how do you make you swallow your whistle?

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Well, guys, even though it was a bye week for the Miami Hurricanes, it was a huge week for the Miami Hurricanes football program and the staff and the ICC as a whole because we have a monster football game on Saturday on NBC, a game that we wouldn't have had had this pandemic not occurred. Clemson traveling to Notre Dame. But obviously the big news is that Trevor Lawrence is not going to play in this game for Clemson. Now, that directly impacts the Miami Hurricanes chances because this year in the ABC, there are no divisions.

So best teams in the ACC make the ACC championship game. If you're holding out hope for the Miami Hurricanes, make it to Charlotte. Once again. You need Notre Dame to drop in game. You had this one circled. This was the game that they were obviously going to drop because they were playing Clemson, the number one team in the nation, whichever it Lawrence. But now the pandemic has reared its ugly head and is directly affecting this college football season.

The best player in the nation was out against Boston College. And you saw how tight that game was and now he is out against Notre Dame. So a game that you had circled as a loss for Notre Dame now is in question.

And just quickly, Notre Dame, Clemson are both five and will six it up for Clemson, five enough for Notre Dame. Canes are four and one. That's why Mike is kind of stating the importance of of this game coming up here. Why Notre Dame? You thought this would be a loss which would benefit the canes and now we're not so certain.

Now you're not so certain, even though that Clemson quarterback struggled early on. And obviously it's difficult and deflating when you don't have Trevor Lawrence, but he's a five star recruit in his own right. And we saw him be athletic against the University of Miami. I'm going to have an interesting sort of take with all of this. Because we obviously saw the gulf between the Miami Hurricanes and the Clemson football program a couple of weeks ago, it's not tight at all.

If they make it back to Charlotte, you don't have much confidence in them shortening that gulf between the two teams. So not the worst thing in the world for the Miami Hurricanes to be victims of circumstance. For Notre Dame to win this game, the ACC championship beat Notre Dame and Clemson and let's just say the Miami Hurricanes, who should be favored, I think, in the rest of their games. I know there a 10 point favorite coming off a bye at NC State.

And as you say it, as an injury to their quarterback, I'm going to be on NCAA because that's just the book on many days by weeks. But it's not the worst thing in the world to be the one loss. Miami Hurricanes football program shut out of the ACC championship game because covid happened and not have to prove yourself a fraud in front of the nation in that ACC championship game. You sump your feet and say we should be in that in that college football playoff, the way Alabama was allowed in without playing in their conference championship game.

It's not a bad situation right now that Miami finds itself in. I think back to that Boston College game, it's interesting because that Boston College Clemson game was a lot was close because of the defense. Clemson's defense played terrible in that first half. But the narrative is just going to be that game was close because Trevor Lawrence was out. But it really like I think that game would have been similar, even with Trevor Lawrence, the way their defense played in the first half.

So it's thinks that the narrative is kind of giving them a pass because Lawrence was out when really their defense played like played poorly in that first half.

You want to not make the ACC championship game because you don't want to be exposed, but they don't want to complain that you should be in the final four.

Absolutely. Yes. Yes, yeah. Yeah. Because this is me. So this is me being self-aware. What would I like to be in the ACC championship game against Clemson?

Rasi Sure. Sure. No, this is me actually being pretty rational. I know that the Miami Hurricanes are not as good as Clemson. Right. I was smacked in the face with that a couple of weeks ago.

Say that they should be in the final four. Right.

I'm saying this in terms of a buy in from your recruiting base, what you can sell your recruits, what Manny Diaz can have to his name being that fraudulent one loss team. That's like we got screwed out of the playoff while you are you and I both know Miami ceiling and I'm being self aware right now. Miami is certainly not in that class at MIT. You're saying you'd rather have the argument that the kids could have made if I made a for the final four that actually going out and trying to win the game?

Yeah, this is me separating myself. Miami, my Miami hurt. Not bad, Mike. The Miami Hurricanes. Holmer absolutely wants to make it to the ACC championship. And by the way, Mike, the the Hurricanes, Homer will talk himself into the canes covering against Clemson like he did the last time, stupidly so. But what I'm saying specifically, Dumesny Diaz, is it's not the worst thing in the world. It's probably a better situation if he doesn't make the championship game, because that's going to be an additional loss to his record if he is one of these one loss teams that gets shut out because, hey, look, look at the top of the conference.

We have two college football playoff teams. It's not a bad situation for him because he gets to sell that to a fan base. That one hit his head on a platter. After he loses to the likes of FSU and Louisiana Tech, he turns around one of the great turnaround seasons in Miami program history. He gets buy in from recruits saying, hey, I was just one last team. I think it's not a bad thing if they find themselves shut out due to this Trevor Lawrence thing, because that's one less loss.

And it would probably be an ugly loss the way that it was the last time Miami played Clemson in the ACC championship game. So I'm just saying, from a salesman standpoint, it's not a bad thing. I mean, I get you.

So if your two options are get shellacked in the SEC championship game or be that third team out, that's like all. What if what if what if. Let us get back. Yeah, let us get in that game. But you'll never know. Right. I'll concede. I'm conceding to Billy that. Well, that's a bit of a horseshit way to go about things. It's a bit cowardice. And I personally want to get to the ACC championship game.

Right. But if I am Manny Diaz, that can easily be spun into a win. That's a winning position for Manny Diaz. You win by not getting your head caved in in the ACC championship game, but you walk around telling everyone how you had you made it. Oh, I could have been a contender. You would have beaten by twenty one. Like I would I would have been peaking. Oh, I would have been so great. I would have been in college.

I would have been in college football. So I had I not hurt myself in high school.

We were peaking at the right time. Yeah.

I mean this is does it wait, doesn't it help with recruiting if you make it to the AFC championship or you make it to the final four? Billy, he's already agreeing that it's not it's probably not the right way, the competitive way to to go about this, even the way I want. It's a back door into a larger conversation.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well, you think I think to Mike's point, a recruit might be more intrigued to go to a Miami that was like just outside of the ACC championship game and like just on the doorstep one to get in as opposed to a Miami team that got to the championship game and got shellacked.

Here's what you sell. Hey, kid, you're the kid that's going to get me. Yes. And not all at once we get in. You're the kid that's going to get me over the top, right?

Because Miami is trying to keep these five star athletes. And they did a better job this last offseason in keeping these kids in state. Clemson has South Florida kids, Clemson, Miami are directly competing for some of these recruits. So why on earth would you want an opportunity for Clemson to show the world and to those recruits we're better than this team by about forty? It's not the worst thing in the world. I love when Billy gets frustrated by ridiculous concepts and ideas, yet no one on the show has had more of them than him.

And it makes me laugh every single time. My acknowledging that he's a. Terrible way to go about this, but it's something I could hear you saying and I'm conceded to I'm Billy, I'm conceding to made this argument like two years ago. Say it.

I'm in a strange spot today where I've been the rain cloud on to because everyone's like, yes, Super Bowl. Super Bowl for sure. Oh, they don't even give away their picks. They don't need anyone to is the best. The defense may say that they. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know.

Now this they're I don't know.

But OK, I want us to be the year and later when Dan's out. Yeah, I guess. But I'm conceding to you that it doesn't have to be like that. I mean, I'm concerned. It it's just, you know, your your whole sales pitch is we weren't good enough to get into the championship game, but if we get you, we will be and will win. Yeah, but if you get there and you lose, you could just as easily say, listen, we're just you away from winning it now.

We're two steps away from that.

I mean. Yeah, the way that you said it so bluntly, I think it works to the advantage of Manny Diaz, who's telling it like it comes as it's as black and white is one less loss in that loss column. It's it's that it's that transparent. And obviously, you get one less loss and you get to say to your fan base that wanted you out. Look at this. I turned a losing season into a one loss season in one off season.

In one off season. I was able to do that. Imagine what I can do with another year instead of having another loss and being called a fraud by everybody because you lose forty two to seventeen. Again, I could see if if I'm Manny Diaz. Yes, I'm a competitor. I want to get to the ACC championship game. I can also spin that into a win. But it's not it's not a bad scenario that Miami sees itself on.

By the way, I don't think Miami is going to find themselves in this situation because built into this construct, because it is them not losing the rest of the season and they could just as well lose to NC State. I'm just saying there is a path for Manny Diaz to convince the likes of me and people like me and people in West thirty two that he is on the right track if he avoids that SCC championship game altogether despite winning the rest of his games.

But if it plays out this way, he can also throw into the mix. Notre Dame will not be a part of this conference much longer, right?

They're not going to play in a championship. I got to tell you, I like your strategy. My, my, my strategy. What I'm throwing out there is one of cowardice, but I readily acknowledge that. Yeah, yeah. That's you're getting buy in from me. Right. And I'm by the way, I don't like Manny Diaz. I've been on record. I don't want him as my head coach.

I was going to say, do you want Manny to have that? I look, I want I want I want the head coach to succeed. I don't think Manny Diaz is the right guy for the job. I want more than anything for him to prove me wrong because I'm a Miami Hurricanes fan through and through. I'm a season ticket holder. I love the program. And I will be the first hypocrite in line wearing a turnover chain and saying, we got we got jobbed, we got job.

We should have been in the college football playoff. I want to be wrong with Manny Diaz. Do I see it? No. I see so many red flags. Any time you give them time to prepare for a game, they come out flat. I don't feel like we have any sort of tactical advantage anytime we enter a game against one of the elite coaches.

That being said, I want to be wrong. I want my team to be good. I would rather him get blown out for everybody to see my side, which is this guy is not good enough. How can you not know that off of last season? But if this is a situation, let's go let's get by and let's let's convince them impressionable high schoolers that we're actually better than we actually are. They come here to the yes for could be one loss.

And Billy, here's another thing that we're not taking into consideration. Derek King could come back next year. I don't know what his prospects are. He had decent pro prospects when he was in Houston, but now he's getting to a tipping point in age that he's probably going to be drafted low anyways because you're going to take some other prospects over him. If you want to convince Derek King to stay, it's just a play on, hey, we can get to the national championship game.

We are starting next season against Alabama and one of those premier kickoff games. We can get there if you stay here, Derek, it goes all the way. The first game of the year next year. Yeah. In Atlanta.

Oh, right. I have.

I have I have to admit, I'm I'm more confused now, Mike, with you than I was like ten minutes ago. Like, do you like I was with you on like rooting for that. But then you're like, I don't even want this. I want him out of here man. Like you have no idea what you want.

My my take is built on this could be a good thing for the program to sell. That has remained consistent throughout. Is it even what I want? No, I think Miami is a fraud. I don't have faith in the head coach. I want the head coach to prove me wrong because I love the program, but I don't think he is. But I think Miami is the best chance to succeed and the staff has a best chance to succeed if they don't get their head caved in in the AFC championship game.

I think you have better chances of keeping the quarterback, which is the best quarterback Miami's had since Ken Dorsey. I think there are a lot of positive things here if Miami finds himself a victim of. So all I'm just throwing out there, and I'm well past the tipping point of being annoying right now, even though I'm not actually rooting for Miami in this instance, I'm conceding everything that people would complain about. I think this is a is shaping up to be a good thing for Miami, right.

If it all plays out, unfortunately, Africans lose those games. Yes.