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OK, and it's going to be weird tangent, you want. You want me to. You want me to say I'll set it up if you want to just end up at the tangent. I don't. I've got plenty to talk about. Like, we could just keep going.

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I want to talk about The Wizard of Oz. I mean, what about Ozzie Smith? I like it. You know, the actual movie was over it from from nineteen thirty nine. Now, the original. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a it's a cinematic achievement of the highest order in nineteen thirty nine. MGM was the most powerful studio at the time. This was a day of exclusivity. But are you aware of all the horrible things that happened on this set?

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There's all sorts of urban legends about, oh, if you see this scene in the pre 1988 rejuvenated copy, there's a munchkin hanging himself and that's turned out to be a bird. But like Judy Garland was getting molested by munchkins. Right. And she was being fed speed by studio head that kept referring to her as its little hunchback. I can't. So the reason why I want to talk about The Wizard of Oz is my daughter just turned one.

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And the only thing on television that ever grabs her attention is The Wizard of Oz. It's bizarre and it's actually cool because she's Hazel and it's just cool to see her respond to something. Nothing else does it. And I never want her to know the truth behind this this horrific film in terms of like the way that it was made, because I can't escape it synonymous with me.

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I mean, you're overthinking it a little bit. All right. No, I mean, he's parenting. He's a first time parent. His. Wait a minute, Billy. You're saying he's overthinking it?

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If she's one, she's not going to know what any of that is. Just let her watch that. It's not even in color. Right? Well, I guess there's parts of it in color because the yellow brick road is the Wizard of Oz in color or not?

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No, it isn't a in a black and white, the starts in black and white and it turns into color when she goes in the eyes.

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A crazy cinematic knew that. And the tornado actually in terms of practical effects, looks better than some of the modern day stuff. But there's going to be a time if she continues down this path, if she continues to follow the yellow brick road and the Wizard of Oz is just a lasting favorite film of hers, I don't want her to know the ugly truth that the Munchkins were having wild orgies in the hotels and police had to be called nightly and catch them with butterfly nets.

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But eventually there's going to be a day where she can realize and stumble upon that truth herself. You realize. So just keep it from her until then, you know, and it's unlikely. You're right, Bill, for example. You never know Mike. You're fine. She really likes a Tin Man, right? She she loves a Tin Man. And I don't have the heart to tell her that the Tin Man had to be put in an iron lung because they use aluminum powder for the makeup.

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And he almost died as a result of making this film.

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You could choose not to tell her that that's always an option, right. Like, this is just a phase and she'll watch Mickey Mouse Funhouse or whatever. Then she'll watch like whatever point break.

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But how do I but how do I explain to her that don't that the Tin Man had to be played by a different actor because the first actor that they had had an allergic reaction to once again, the aluminum powder, because it seemed like he didn't want to tell her this.

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Like you want to be the one like did you know you're like a human pop up video that you just want to throw out these little facts? Well, things are going. He wants her to never know.

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I can't let her know about this interesting little tidbit that isn't evil is because they were experimenting with color at the time in the book. Dorothy's ruby red shoes are not ruby. They're actually silver. Did you know that?

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I didn't know that. I also didn't know, Mike, what you just said. That can't be true. What you just said, that the Wizard of Oz had tornado effect better than some modern day stuff. Like that's not accessible. It can't be. Watchit, how how can that be? Can he possibly be right about that?

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Right. It's not a fact. It's better than Twister because of the life. It was better it's better than the nineties reliance on early CGI practical effects where they probably got some B roll footage of an actual tornado and put it out yonder. Incredible filmmaking. It's a it's a cinematic achievement once again of the highest order. But you can't teach your daughter anything with it because it's contaminated by all these pollutants. Judy Garland tried to kill herself ten years after this film's release because of her experience on this set.

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When were you planning on having this? Like when did you want to explain it to you want to tell her she's one?

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Judy Garland had 80 cigarettes a day and black coffee. That was the diet that the studio said that she could have.

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OK, all right. Well, eventually, your daughter is going to learn how to read and she's going to read the trivia section of my advice on this movie.

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You say, why aren't you tell me. Right. Why did you shield me from the world, Daddy? That's right, Roy. You're absolutely right about that.

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I feel like there's a lot of talks that you're going to have with your daughter in the coming years. And I don't know if this is like, hi, know, this has to be one of them.

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This is the only time I ever get her attention when talking on the screen. You don't instigate this conversation. This only you have this conversation where he wants to have this conversation. Never want to have your daughter eventually comes to you and wants to discuss it. Then you have the conversation. No, I cannot have this conversation because it's going to be really hard to explain to her that Shirley Temple was the original choice. But this was. Back in the day of contract exclusivity, so they got an older Judy Garland, but they kept her weighed down by force, feeding her speed, 80 cigarettes and black coffee and the occasional chicken soup to make her look younger daughter can ever know.

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She must never, never.

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This will never come up in casual conversation.

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Just swear to me, you guys will never tell her, daddy, you betrayed me by not telling me these things about the world. This is my favorite thing is the only thing that got my attention as a child. It's the only form of entertainment that would be bad parenting.

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I mean, I feel like I've been lied to because I didn't know any of this stuff. I thought this was just a nice movie that I've been watching.

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Well, they don't know can hurt them. I mean, that's it.

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I mean, I knew this, and that's why Claire's not watching. Of course you did.

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So you have outlawed The Wizard of Oz. That's exactly how it should be. Roissy, you two you two are doing very careful. Billy, I'm with you. Right? I understand. I know. It's exhausting and your head is in your hand, but Roy and Mike are they are the parents of of young children. You and I are not. This seems more about them than the kids, though, right, because like they want to be the ones to tell people this because they're clearly bringing this to light.

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Right. But they don't want their kids to know this kind.

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This is a warning. It's to shield his daughter from it. Right. But Roy, I feel like Roy, at least early on, is the better father. He did his work on the front end and therefore is not showing his daughter this stuff. You should have done that, Mike. Bad parenting. Well, learn for now. You have to make up for your mistakes.

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Learn from my mistakes, because now in a couple of months time, I'm going to have to have this awkward conversation, which I'm going to have to explain in just going to be 18 months, Mike, every single thing I just told you guys, I think I think that conversation is too late, not to early.

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I'm going to get right on it.

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Now's the time to do it. Actually, if you're going to have it right, like you should do it tonight. I should have already gone in to build resentment right. With her because she's like, well, how long did you know this? And you're like, well, I knew this at least since September 24th. And she's like, well, it's October 9th. Why haven't you told me before today? So it's better to just get this out in the open now, I guess.

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Right.

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What am I to say, Billy? For example, when I try to explain to her the horrible behavior of the Munchkins that groped Judy Garland in the hotel and made her life a living hell, she would ask me, Papa, why would this happen? And I would have to explain to her that factually, Toto made more than the Munchkins. You mean the uncle? What are we doing here?

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No, that's really all. That's really what this is all Johnny Villanova, whenever I'm going to leave now.

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See you guys later. Bye, Chris. Jonathan Villanueva. Chris, how long did it take you to shake that off? How long did it have you shaking it off yet?

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Yeah, I think I might have met Jonathan Vilma. I don't know, man.

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I see them as they are. Billy, are you going to be OK? Because the Marlins, the last three games I really feel for for where it is that you're at with Chris. Just Chris just launched his zoom camera.

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He just threw it and it started doing well.