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God-bless football, Billy Gill. Did I wake you up?

God-bless football, Mikey.

God-bless football, Stugots.

What a weekend it was. Was it? I don't know. You tell me. I don't know. I hear what you're saying. There were good games, bad teams, low scoring games. I understand what you're saying, but a lot of good games. Close finishes.

Close finishes. Yeah, but I feel like we're trying to talk ourselves into this is a good football weekend. It was okay.

What.

Was the game? What was the moment of this football weekend?

The game you're saying? Yeah. College or NFL?

Well, I was meaning more NFL, but or.

Nfl is fine. We'll talk college with Lucy coming up here in a few minutes. She was at the Clemson game. We got Lucy or Goosey coming up. Billy stole two stats from TV. I have top five things I know in the NFL. What was the big game yesterday? What did you say, Mike?

Big episode.

Wow, that's a lot of stuff.

That's awesome. Yeah, we got a lot. I mean, we got a lot. What was the big game of the weekend? I mean, I understand what you're saying, but you had the Browns over the Steelers 13-10. It was a bad game. You had the Lions over the Bearers 31-26. Lions figured out a way to win, even while Jared Goff threw three interceptions. But the game of the weekend, I think, was probably, I want to say, Chargers and Packers. Just because you expect so much from that charger team. Jordan Love, starting to get better, playing better. Can we.

Stop expecting so much from the chargers?

I mean, we should expect a lot from the chargers.

Why? What have they shown us?

They show us a lot of great athletes on the field every single weekend. They just.

Don't win. Yeah, isn't that why we're supposed to expect more from them? Because they don't give us enough.

I don't expect anything from them. I expect disappointment from them. Do you really? I do, unfortunately. We're friendly with Austin, Echler. Friends with Austin, Echler, maybe even.

Yes, we're friends.

With them. I just expect them to blow it. Don't you?

I usually do, yes.

Brandon Staley also can go. I know that we're saying- Well, he's about to go. No, I know that, but I know that we're saying it because the team's not doing it. Enough. Big sour-pussed. Horrible attitude. Blaming his team. How about this, Brandon Staley? You're a defensive genius. How about you stop the other team from scoring when you have a lead in the fourth quarter? Yes. How about that? How about you blame people, fumbling it, Austin, in particular, fumbling it on the five-yard line? There was also a catch that should have been a touch on by Mike Evans that was right there that he lost in the sun, I believe.

By.

Kenan-allen. Kenan-allen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, Kenan-Allen.

Two of them.

By the way. It's late.

In the afternoon. Don't forget the one down the sideline. Don't forget the one down the sideline by Quentin-Johnson.

By Quentin-Johnson, yeah. Droped a wide-open ball. That's the one that's going to be touching you. That's the one that's.

Going to touch out like 20 seconds left in the game. Well, what Billy is upset about, Mikey, because we are friendly with Austin Ecler. He'll be on with us tomorrow. We'll talk to him tomorrow. I'm looking forward to speaking with him. Billy's right. Austin Ecler is all about accountability. He's going to come out and say, Yeah, that's on me. Even while being pissed off at his coach, Brandon Staley. But Staley pitting that on Austin Ecler. Pitting that on Austin Ecler. When they went on after the fumble, okay? They had a lead that game. Their defense to Billy's point could not hold that lead. After the game, what does the coach do? Blast his second best player. Terrible job by Staley. He's going to be fired. By the time we talk to Austin Ecler tomorrow, Staley will no longer be the coach.

I don't think that's true. You don't? I don't. Okay. I think he may survive the season.

Really?

Well, yeah, because we're also here's the thing. There's the rumors that Bill Belichick may go there.

I love that.

I guess it doesn't matter when you fire him if Belichick is going to go. And if you fire him earlier, you can already start those negotiations. But Bill Belichick is not going to be negotiating while he's an active coach.

No, but if you already know that Bill Belichick is going to be the guy that's coming to coach your team, run your organization next year, who cares when you fire Brandon Staley? Like, let him go. If you already know that. A lot of people are suggesting that the chargers already know that.

How old is Belitech? 60-something. I mean, sunny California, baby. That's when you got to retire.

I read in the report that they were saying that it was rumored that he was going to go there. It's like, Oh, he loves California. He loves the beach. And it's like, Yeah, almost everyone loves the beach.

I don't.

Know that that is the writings on the wall. He's 71 years old.

Is he really? Yeah. A young 71. I feel like he is.

He's the rare young 71 that also like -.

Same Roids as braided.

I don't want to get morbid, so we'll just end the sentence there.

What?

Just is a high stress job. He does. Yeah. Yes. I want.

Belichick to do - You wouldn't be surprised. I want Belichick to do one of those medication commercials where he's riding in a convertible with his sunglasses on and a Hawaiian shirt driving around Hollywood. I want to see that.

Where are these 71-year-olds, by the way, and a 72-year-old Pete Carroll who are like running around with more energy than I have ever had. How do I get.

Some of that?

How can I be that? If I can be that in my 70s, sign me up. I'll be there.

Would you rather be Pete Carroll in your 70s or Belichick in your 70s?

I'm not Pete Carroll now. I don't have that energy and that zest for life now. How am I going to have it when I'm 72?

That's what I feel every time I see Dabbled running down the thing. I'm like, I can't do that now.

I can't do that now. I would trip over my feet five times.

I'm 25 years younger. I can never do it.

Say what you will about Dabbled. It's remarkable that he's able to do that every single week and he hasn't eaten at once. And as soon as he does, he has to just leave and be done with coaching forever. Because if you fall in front of a stadium full of people sprinting down the hill, you can never show your face there again.

Agreed.

Which is why he.

Shouldn't - I'm not even Bill Belichick now.

He shouldn't keep doing... Did you see RG3, by the way, running down behind him this weekend and trying to talk to him in the middle of his run when he was done? No. Yeah, he ran behind him. He tried to interview him. I think that that gave him a chest pat and then said something to him. I don't know that they got on microphone. Also, you guys think what I was thinking when you saw the the Watson news?

What's that?

Rg3. He could fix this.

He could. So could Tom braided.

I was joking about that. But RG3 believes that any time there's a quarterback injury, that he's the solution to that problem.

He thinks he should be the quarterback for the Jets right now.

He's really carved a lane for himself. Himself. Where he thinks that he- You him right now.

He thinks that he's- I'm not certain he's wrong. Jets are bad. I mean, Mike, listen.

Your line is is bad, Your line is bad.

The line is really bad. But some of those throws were on Zach Wilson. And and I have been fighting about this for nearly two years. Really? Yeah, well, I so badly want Chris Sims to be right. He's wrong. Why? Zach Wilson's not good.

No.

It's over.

I was right and Sims was wrong?

You You I like that. That. He's not good.

Tell Sims I'll give him my top 40 quarterbacks next week.

How you guys feeling about Tim Boyle?

You should do do Timmy Boyle? Yeah. No.

Thomas Morestead, maybe get him some reps in there?

No. That's who needs to be quarterback.

Thomas Morestead. Thomas Thomas Tupa.

You mean? Mean? I mean, said he's coming back to practice December second.

Enough for him. I know.

Why would you come back to practice? Why? No. Why would you play at all? I don't know. Just lose the the rest, out the the string, the best offensive tackle in the draft that's available to you when you're picking. Get Devante Adams in the the and move on. Why?

You think Robert Robert thought that shaving his beard was going to do anything? I don't know.

You see him tackle Zach Wilson?

Did you see Zach Wilson trip on a frigging frigging yard running out backwards onto the the What was that about?

I don't know. Mike, yeah, you saw that. Zach Wilson being tackled by his head coach, right?

Well, everybody else was hitting Zach Wilson. Why Why not.

Sallins, too? Hoping he would get hurt.

Want to get in in the fun, you know?

Just an ankle, that's all.

What about Belichick to the jets? Full circle for his career.

I mean.

That'd be great. You don't want him? You wouldn't want him?

No. Why not? Mikey, let me paint this picture for you, okay? He took the jets job. He left after a day. He faxed at his his to Woody Johnson. He wrote it on a.

Cocktail napkin. Napkin. Whatever he I retire as as of.

The NYJ. He drove up the I-95 and a little bit of the Massachusetts term pike, got to Foxborough, took the Patriots job, won six Super Bowl with braided, has a worse winning percentage when braided is not his starting quarterback than Joe Philby. Philby. And he has a chance to go back because he wants it to be ready-made. Aaron Rogers. Aaron Rogers. Devontegidams, Bruce Hall, I mean, Mikey, at a tackle in the draft. I'm with it, Billy. I like it.

I don't even know that you take a tackle. No, thank you. How about this? What if somehow the the position themselves and they land Caleb Williams, too? Oh, wow. So you have a succession plan. Right. Because here's the the.

Thing- I'll piss Aaron off, though.

Though. I'm worried about, and not really worried because it doesn't actually bother me, but Caleb Caleb Williams, we going to get to the point that the draft is starting to... Or the stock is starting to fall in the draft a little little bit they keep losing- Well, he's done.

He's done, except for the the game.

They keep losing- He's.

Not going to play the the game.

-pride a little bit after the last game, which whatever, that's fine. This This when they lost, he refused to speak to the media because they lost, which is not a good look.

Yeah, he's out. Is the stock going to fall? No. I mean, it's going to be him and May are going to be the top two picks of the draft, I think. I mean, Mel Mel still swear. Has them number one one his board.

Yeah, but Mel also has told us that if he gets three out of 30 right, that it's a successful season.

Yeah, that's true. But Justin Herbert only won, I think, seven games his last year year Oregon. Enough. And he was in the top five pick, and he had to deal with two in a a There's nobody better than.

Caleb Williams. The bears are going to have that top pick. They're going to have two of the top four picks in the draft.

The bears. What did they do.

With Justin Fields? Justin Fields.

I don't know. Justin Fields played well yesterday. He came came back, played pretty good. Yeah. I mean, listen, the Bear should have won that game. The have learned how to win. Even when Jared Goff is not-.

In spite of him. He had three deceptions.

Terrible. They had a 12-point deficit with three minutes left, and he got them back in and they won the game.

Yeah, they figured it out.

The bears also had responded to a touchdown drive with an 18-second drive, giving them the ball back. Literally an 18-second drive, giving them the ball back, allowing them to beat them.

The bears are bad.

Yes, they are. They're just bad. A good team beats Detroit there.

Eberflus, Hotsuit?

Maybe. What a weird weird Eberflus.

It is a weird name. I'd I'd him just for his.

Last name. I don't think I'd do that.

I don't want to hire him. Coach Eberfluous. You can't do that. I can't play for that guy. Guy.

How about I can't. How about Eberdone? I can't. How about Eberdone?

You're out of here. That doesn't even...

I don't know. There's no wordplay there. There's nothing.

How can you? You? Weird name.

Okay.

Where's it from?

Should I check the origin? I guarantee you, yes, check the origin.

You can't fire someone someone.

Because it's Nordic.

It does sound Nordic, but I guarantee you if you just spend a minute, you'll come up with something better for for than what you came up with.

With. Done.

That's not good.

It's not, huh? No. Dolphins are a nice little win, Billy. It's a little win. That's why I said a little win. Win. I have an.

Advance on that Well.

That's what I said, nice little win. I don't blow blow out a nice little win.

Yeah, but we were talking about it before the show started. If the Raiders were any good, they win that game. Even though the Dolphins have a weird stat that I'm paraphrasing from TV because I didn't get the exact one. So I didn't steal this stat from TV. I'm paraphrasing this from TV. Tv. I believe in a segment. Segment. I believe now the Dolphins are five and one with a negative turnover margin.

Five and one where they turn the ball over more than the opposing team.

Correct. Yeah.

They correct mistakes.

Yeah, I guess. They survive. Yeah. But they.

Haven't beaten a good team. People could say now, Dolphins fans could say, Oh, well, they finally beat a team that was 500. No, well, Raiders are good. Good. I mean, whatever They beat Aden O'Connor at home.

Home. Okay, I mean, who cares? That's the conversation that's going to continue to happen. There's nothing they can do. They couldn't have done anything about that that anyways. You know what I mean? If they lose that game, they lose to a bad team. If they win, they win against a bad team. There's nothing they could have done yesterday to change that stat. They're only playing the teams that are on their schedule. I'd be slightly concerned about about injury, even though they said that he could get back in there, but he didn't. Also, Tyreke got a little banged up, which is a miracle that he doesn't get banged up a little more, but he went back in the game with a little wrist injury.

He's the MVP.

I know. I saw that that that out. I also saw that your Instagram put that out. Who do you have running your Instagram that someone put that out?

I.

Actually did it myself. There's not a chance that you.

Did it yourself. I sent him the video, and then he texted me, Do I do it as a reel or a video? I said, Do it as a reel, and then you collaborate with the the account. And then all he goes, I think I did it right. I go, You did.

But that clip was also also three weeks old, wasn't it?

Still relevant. Still Still relevant, yeah.

I get Hunter Renfro, by the way, one of the greatest plays I've ever seen. His 31-yard reception where he hurtled the guy sideways and somehow stayed on his feet and kept running, ridiculous. Also, Also, Ramsey.

Really good. All he does is catch catch In.

Ridiculous fashion, he lays out. He defies gravity.

He's.

Great. He's the best. Well, I don't know about that. I got ahead of myself. You did? I just wanted to say he's the best.

He is the best. Pretty good. He's got five five in three games, I think. Pretty good. Good. Damn good.

Yeah. Well, I think three interceptions in three games.

Oh. Yeah. What did I say?

Five.

I meant three and five or something like that.

That's what he meant, three and five. Yeah. It's late. Yeah. In the afternoon. Five in.

The afternoon. Mike Evans.

Evans. Next.

And we're back. I don't don't.

I did did You liked liked I.

Mean, on TV, it's it's fun on What.

Happened there? I think a.

Bottle or something. Something fell. Fell. Keep saving a a You have.

Your big board bets.

Coming up? I do. I'm going to have have our last segment of the day today. Okay. Because things are getting a little tricky now with that game. Game. What do.

You Why?

This is, as you put before, which I disagree with, the rare Super Bowl rematch. It's also the Super Bowl preview, a big game today.

The.

Biggest game in Kansas City.

It's a whole ball of wax.

I take it we will not be there since we're here.

We're not going to the game. Yeah, no. Okay. It's late in the afternoon. The game starts starts a couple of hours. We're not.

Going anywhere. Well, there there some talk that you were going to get us into the suite, and and we were to meet Taylor Swift and the Swift parents and the Kelsey parents, and and it a.

Whole- What I'm telling you is if we went to the game, we would get into the suite. That's all I'm saying.

Well, you said we were invited, and I was like, There's no way we're inviting you. You were not. When you say, If I show up, someone will open a door and sneak me me in, not an invitation. That's not an invite.

It is to me. Anyway, we found the origins of of Did you? Yes.

Yes. A great sentence. Actually, most of the surname is traced back to Britain and Ireland. But if you spell it with an I, it has some Polish in it. It. Britain, Ireland, Ireland, But.

It's not spelled with an I.

I know, but it would have to be.

Some some But if it was, right? Did you find any better wordplay for for than what you had last segment? No.

You could call him an an.

I'm not sure that's much better. No.

Billy from the top row.

That was better.

That's so much better. What was yours? That's so much better.

What.

Was yours? Eberdone.

Yeah, come.

On, man. Eberfluser is a lot better. Better. Come on, I.

Don't know about that. What are we even doing here? I don't know about that.

Well, it's not Eberdone, okay? Yeah.

I'm Eberdone with this conversation.

But But still doesn't work.

By the way.

Lucy was- Because you're the Eberfluser.

I teased Lucy last segment to join us this segment. I was wrong. She'll join us next segment. Maybe. Okay, maybe.

Which is technically still next.

So you're not wrong. Yeah, you don't know.

Correct. What? Hey, I'm I'm Eber with with you.

Wait, You.

Think that if he says in the first segment, Next, he's just not here here next, then he's.

Still later. But next three are next. Next.

You can't specify the next. You can say, Next. On.

You're an an.

We're getting caught up in the weeds here.

Semantics? Yeah, a little bit. Boggedown.

Will Levis, huh? Quite a.

Good game. Game. Levis, what a good game.

He had two drives at the end. He was terrible.

I'm just trying to get us back on track here.

Okay, but with Will Levis? I don't.

Think Will Levis is the lane there.

There. -with Will Levis? Got blown out by the Jaguars. The Jaguars finally finally someone out at at home, that's how you transition us, getting us back on course with Will Will Levis, A.

Little bit. A little bit back on course. Course.

Oh, that.

Was Josh Dobbs, huh?

Huh? Kenny Pickett, Oh.

Mike Mike has a Kenny Pickett stat.

Oh, yeah. Tommy DeVito has more multiple touchdown games than Kenny Pickett.

Pickett.

That's amazing. Devito had a good game. Game. Had a game.

He had a game. Tommy DeVito has more multiple touchdown games than Zach Wilson.

Oh, Jeez. That's not true.

That can't be.

It could be.

That's.

Not true. This season? Season?

He has Yeah, this season. Season. Hes Tommy DeVito. He had three touchdowns, no interceptions yesterday. The giants beat the Commanders, and Ron Rivera has to be on the.

Hot suit. God, they're dreadful.

They're so bad.

Guys, I forgot. Tommy DeVito is one of my stats that I stole from TV.

Oh, Oh, really?

Tommy DeVito has six touchdown passes. That's more than any quarterback that that suited up for either New York team this season.

Okay, Okay, Mike, you're you're I think.

The giants have a quarterback.

Do they?

I don't don't know, they?

He was also sacked nine times. Giant's a bad line, too.

Bad offensive line. Tommy DeVito played very, very well. I mean, three touchdowns, no exceptions. They've given up 63 sacks this year.

For giants. On the road. Yeah. Right.

So how does that work? After the game? Because Because Washington not very far from New Jersey where he lives. He just goes home to his parents after the game. That's it?

Am I I like when someone finishes what they do, they go home? Yes.

Yeah, but he goes home to his parents. He's a.

Professional quarterback. That's where he lives. I mean, maybe he's not buying, I don't know, White Castle.

Castle the middle of the world. Sam Howe is the most Sack quarterback in League, right? By a lot. Tommy DeVito got Sack nine times yesterday. Yes. Zach Wilson could be murdered at any game. Game.

So the end of.

The year, you know how quarterbacks like to give offensive lines like a gift? Gift?

Their line owes them something.

No way they give them anything, right? But you can't. There's no maybe medical bills. What do you do? Yeah. Yeah, you can't send them anything.

You have Zach Wilson buying gifts for that offensive line?

But that's usually usually what That's what I'm saying. So they don't don't gifts, right?

Yeah, but you're going to buy a gift for guys who aren't going to be there next year. I mean, mean, true.

Does that? Well, the person buying the gift may also not be there next year. And the coaches may not be there next year.

Sam Howell will be there next year.

Oh, I thought we were.

Talking about Zach. Well, some of those offensive lineman won't. Zach Wilson will be there next year. Some of those offensive lineman.

Will not. Sam Howell, Howell, I mean, not only does he get sacked a lot, also very reckless. He reminds me of Rex Grossman, like somebody's down there.

Grossman made.

A Super Bowl. I know. Yeah.

Think about that. I know. Rex Grossman. Super Bowl.

I'd kill.

For Rex Grossman right right now. So would You would not. What do you mean? Be like seven to two of of What do you mean?

Present-day Present-day Grossman, though. Though. Yeah, would take present-day present-day Grossman.

I would take present-day present-day Grossman. I would.

How old do you think think Grossman is?

I don't care.

I take present-day Bill Belichick at quarterback.

You wouldn't take him as a coach. Coach.

Yeah.

I don't want to be charged. Charged. Lex is 43.

I take him.

I want the athletic ability.

I take present-day Dan Marino. Yep.

Those commercials? What are are doing?

I would. So Tommy Tommy gets it done. Bill, you were telling us before.

The the show I was looking right now for a quarterback that had another terrible terrible performance to like, like, Oh, person didn't have a bad bad game.

Did you you find anyone?

Jordan Love, huh?

Jordan Love is pretty good.

D-t-r- Huh?

Oh, my God. Jordan Love is not good.

I mean, he played well yesterday. He did. Second week in a row, third week in a row, actually.

I'd hate to go back to Staley, but that team is ranked near the bottom defensively. Isn't that supposed to be his thing? Yeah. What does he do good?

Blames his players.

He's a leader of men.

They also also Joey Joey Bosa. They're a mess. Yeah, was.

Carted off the field.

Carted off and crying, so you know it's bad.

Bad. Purdy was perfect yesterday.

No, they said it's just probably a a flip.

He.

Made it seem like his whole leg was about to be amputated. Yep.

Purdy was perfect yesterday.

The 49ers are.

Really good. Fred Williams should probably be the MVP.

Brock Purdy and a study stole from television. His His rating, as you said, was perfect. It was the first first rating that was perfect for the 49ers since Joe Montana in 1989.

1989. P. Purdy stands for perfect. He's good.

He's not just like a plug-in guy.

No, he's their quarterback. The trade trade to trade.

The cowboys. I know, but in the conversations that we've had, the narrative has been like, Oh, Purdy's fine, because he's like a system guy. He works for for shanahand. And he starts trying to get cute, it's not going to work out anymore. But he's good.

He is good.

When it comes to to he's sitting in the perfect realm where you can never fire him. Because if he can turn turn seventh round pick into a starter- starter- did did -it's always going to save you money. Exactly. Exactly.

Why would you ever fire He might be the MVP.

It's crazy.

You forget about Tray Lance, even though that was John Lynch who wanted to trade all the picks to move up to get Tray Lance. They trade him to the Cowboys. It didn't work out. He survives that. That. Does because he has the ability to make Brock Brock great.

And he took took to a Super Bowl. They couldn't wait. Aden O'Connor might be better than Jimmy Jimmy right now. Yeah. So he took that guy to a Super Bowl. Now he has a seventh round pick, Mr. Mr. Might be going to the Super Super Bowl again. He doesn't get injured last year, they might go to the Super Bowl. Right. Kyle Kyle he's in the perfect position to never get fired because he can always save a team money on a quarterback.

Yep. 18 touchdowns, five interceptions.

For Purdy. Crazy. I mean, it also helps if you have Christian Christian to to too.

Yeah, all of that, of course.

That helps. Brandon and Ayouk, by the way.

Yeah, he's good. I mean, the Niners are good. They're talented. You're not going to be surprised if the Niners are in the Super Bowl.

It's crazy that Brandon and Ayouk made you forget about Debo Samuel.

Yeah.

Completely. Debo Samuel is still still and also very good. Brandon and Ayouk, also.

Very good. But you remember the three games where we started the question party for the first time?

Yeah, they were a little hurt. No, Trent Williams was hurt. Trent Williams was hurt.

Debo was hurt. I know, but now Trent is back. Last two games, six touchdowns, no interceptions.

He protects him. That line play play matters.

Yeah, Yeah, Kind of. We don't pay attention to it. It. A little A little bit. You were telling us before the game you were tired of Josh Dobbs.

Before.

The game? Before the show, I'm sorry. Feels like a game. It's late in the afternoon, Billy.

Early in the game. I mean, Josh Dobbs, whatever.

Whatever. Yeah, been playing all that.

I'm just, he's fine.

What do you mean he's fine?

He's fine. He's whatever.

Hey, the Broncos figured it out.

The Broncos- I want.

To hear his rants on Dobbs.

The Broncos are in the hunt right now. I mean, a.

Lot of good wins for the Broncos. A lot of good wins for the Broncos recently.

Yeah, we wrote them off. They didn't write back, the Broncos.

Sean Payton, Coach of the Year? Year?

That's... He's in It sounded like a ridiculous question at one point. No, Dan.

Campbell, the Coach of the Year. They'd have to win the division for him to be be Coach.

The Year. Campbell or D'Amico Ryans?

Texas. Campbell. No, Campbell is going to win Coach of the Year.

Campbell is going to win.

Coach of the Year. Winning with Jared Goff?

Yeah, Campbell is going to win Coach of the Year.

Winning with Jared Goff. Someone went to a Super Bowl with Jared Goff.

Another genius.

And he won Coach of the Year.

There.

You go. Maybe Jared Goff is the missing piece in all of this. This. Do think? I don't. Don't.

He's not He's not good.

If I'm being perfectly honest, I don't.

Think that. You don't think he's the missing piece? No. No. In anything? I'm looking at the conference right now, AFC, NFC. Yeah. You're going to get deep into these tie breakers, man. I don't know if the NFL has ever gone this deep in terms of tie breakers. You have so many teams who are in contention right now. I mean, I hate to say it. Well, I have to say it. I mean, even the jets could still make the playoffs.

You don't hate to.

Say that. They're not going to, but.

They could. You don't hate to say that. You don't need to say that either.

Well, the five five and fives are all, in the hood. They are.

Five and five. Would you even want the jets in the playoffs.

Right now? That's the thing that I don't understand. Yes. Really?

There's There's teams who are five and five or better in the AFC. Yeah, we want the jets in the playoffs, of course. The jets? What do you think? We get playoff games every year as a jet fan? What are you out of your minds?

Who do you think the jets are going to jump to get into the the.

They're not. Forget it. Forget I said it. Nobody. There's too many.

Teams to jump. There's way too many teams. Teams.

Yeah, the at six and four, the Texans at six and four, the Browns are really good. But Bill's at six and five, five, five and five, five, five and five, five, five and five. Are the.

Browns really good? The Browns defense is.

Really good. No, historically.

Great, Billy. Yeah, but DTR is not going to get them.

Far in the.

The Was that.

True that I saw Joe Flack on a plane to Cleveland?

Yeah, Joe Flacko was signed on a.

Plane to Cleveland.

Get out of here. They're supposed to be finalizing that today. He worked out for them on Friday. They had a deal that hasn't been officially reported that's going to be finalized today. So yeah, Joe Flacko is going to be signed to the practice practice and and I believe, elevated to the active roster. So Joe Flacko will be quarter-Fack-Fack-Fack, baby. Browns are back, baby. Yeah.

Yeah.

No way. Yeah, that's the thing that's real.

So it's not going to be, be, No.

Are you jealous? Who would be.

Joe Flacko? That Joe Flacko is going to be a Cleveland Brown and a New York jet?

You would take.

Joe Flacko.

You take him right now. We'd be eight and two with Joe Flacko.

Stop saying that.

Not nine and one.

Huh.

Maybe 10 and a 0. Josh Allen is good again. Again. Next. Next.

-so, she's back. Back. Is back. Lucy's back. It's been a couple of weeks. She's back from Seattle. She's back from South Carolina. And she seems to be in a new place, but I think she's in the same place, just in a new position.

Right. Yeah, I rearranged my entire entire What? Yeah, whole thing. And it looks great. I love the new version. It looks so much better than what.

It looked like before. Did you move the doors? Those doors were not there before.

So this desk was on the other corner, so you never saw these doors. They were always there. It's hard to see now, but they have this cool film on them because there's a construction site across the street. And when the sun hits it, it makes my apartment a rainbow.

Oh, wow. Okay.

Billy is very very the interior design of your apartment. You would agree?

I just get fascinated by people's, like Zoom backgrounds and.

Stuff like that. Oh, yeah. Okay. Right. You never asked Mikey A. About his place. No, Mikey-.

Actually, I'm a little little No, that's not true, Mikey A. I one time commented that you added a door behind you, which ended up being true. But I hadn't noticed it for two weeks. But you added a door. But that's really all.

That's changed changed You have a very nice apartment, Lucy.

Thank you.

You put things on top top of your Mikey. Those have been there for a while. There was a time that we weren't on television, so Mikey A. Zoom background look different than it does now. I also did notice last week, but I didn't mention that Mikey A. Got his send us stuff, Jet sign, that is sitting behind him now. It's not in the shot because it's a split screen right now, but it is there.

It's almost in the shot. It's almost in the shot. Shot.

Yeah, poking out the bottom there.

Very exciting. You can keep leaning over as much as you want. We're not going to get it, Mike. I appreciate the effort, though.

Though. Oh, well, there you go. Take matters into your own hands. I'm sorry. I I stick.

To that. There it Take that.

But you would agree, right? We're like, Lucy has trees that are lambs. She has a jukebox that's a CD player.

Yeah, she has.

Cool stuff. Yeah, Mikey has a sign that a fan sent him. Him. Right. So you understand Listen, Billy. You understand why.

Billy, she's definitely more interesting. Just a little effort my.

My way is all I I'm sorry. Just a little.

Effort my way is.

All I want.

I apologize. He's married with kids.

What does that mean?

His place is a lot more boring than Lucy's.

I get it.

I.

Was a kid like three years ago, so I still have a bunch of toys and chats.

I got a bunch of Lucy or Goosey questions for you, and we'll get to them in a second. How was Clemson, though, Lucy? You went to Clemson this weekend. It looks like you had a blast. That place looks like a lot of fun.

No, it's a really great environment. It was the best student section we have seen since we started. It's absolutely an SEC school. The whole time I was there, I was like, Yeah, they are in the wrong conference. They belong in the SEC. Interesting. I was a little thrown when the game started because when we were walking down the field, they sang God bless America. Okay, that's normal. Normal. That at sporting events. Then they did a prayer, like a stadium-wide prayer.

I was like, Whoa.

This is interesting. Then they did the Pledge of Allegiance.

What? What? I was Yeah, I I pledged and I was so thrown off by it that the entire first quarter, I was like, Did they do the the of Allegiance? Was that something we did here? And apparently they do it every single game. It was a very interesting environment. It was super fun, though. The The crowd's engaged. The Clemson Clemson run and touch Howard's Rock is really cool. They have a lot of interesting traditions. Some of them I love, some of them I I don't, it's a really fun college football environment. If you're a college football fan, you should absolutely go down there for a game.

Did you do the pledge?

I did not do the pledge. I was in shock. I didn't realize the prayer was happening. Then I was like, Wow, it's quiet, and looked around, and everyone's got their head down. I was like, Oh, my God, this is a real prayer. We're actually doing this. Then the pledge of Allegiance started, and that.

Shocked me even more than the prayer. You're going to hear from JJ Watt. Watt.

I probably will. I haven't done the pledge of of since I was in high school. Did you forget it? I thought that we were just done with that. Did you forget it? I thought once you turned 18 and you graduated, you've done your time with the pledge.

Did you forget the pledge? Should we do it now?

I pledged Allegiance. No, I remembered it because I was with with who's from Guatemala, and I had to explain to her what the pledge of Allegiance was, so I do remember it.

I feel like.

Once you do the Star-Spangled Banner, the pledge is rendered meaningless. I don't.

Know if- Well, they went God bless America. Oh, God bless.

Right.

God bless America is the most useless of all of them.

Yeah, but you build up to God bless America. You don't go from from God-bless to the.

I believe believe that was first. God bless was definitely first, and then it was the prayer, then it was the pledge of allegiance, and the pledge was that was what got me. Then I believe they went to the national anthem, and I think they did the Alma Mater after. They went.

Back, back, back. Jesus. Yeah, lots of pageantry over there in Clemson. Lots of pageantry. How were the streets?

Streets? It was a great.

When I drove through Clemson on I-95 the one time, there were terrible streets, potholes everywhere.

The streets weren't too bad. Parking was a nightmare there. We were driving around the day before and we couldn't find anywhere to park. Park. That's what you're I don't know if we didn't take it, but we didn't thank God.

You.

Noticed the streets. I mean, yeah, my connection point, South Carolina.

But you would recommend. So why did you feel like it was an SEC school, Lucy?

It was one of the best tailgating tailgating we've ever seen. People were so into it. The girls were so dressed up. All the guys were dressed exactly the same. It was the most southern school we've been to so far, and it really showed. Showed. And when you look at the rest of the ACC, you're not getting any crazy good football environments. You're not getting high capacity stadiums. Clemson is very much with Florida State, a a of their own in the ACC. The whole vibes, I was like, Yeah, this is a Southeastern conference school. That's where they should be.

Interesting. All All right, you ready for some Lucy or Goosey?

Yes, I don't have Lucy or Goosey signs, but we'll figure out something else we can use for it.

All right. I have to figure that out. I have to to step Okay. The committee factoring in that Florida State will be without their quarterback and best player when they decide who makes the playoffs. Lucy or Goosey?

Okay, so for this Lucy, we're going to do this this live, laugh, punch, That's Lucy.

That's Lucy. Okay, got it.

I think that is is very Lucy. Have to do it in the sense of of when you're putting together the final four teams, the four teams that are the best teams, Florida State no no without Jordan Travis, is one of the best teams in the country. It's hard to say that. They also have a very weird game coming up against Florida this weekend where Florida is trying to get get eligible. Neither team has their starting quarterback, so it could end up just working itself out. But Florida State was a team that already, like they didn't have room for something to go wrong in the sense that they don't have as strong of a resume as everyone else. They're playing in the ACC. Now they're going to probably have to face Louisville in the ACC Championship game. I think it'll self-regulate, so they don't need to worry about it. But if it comes to the point where they do win out, it should be considered because you want the four best teams in the playoff. It's hard for me to say put in Florida State without Jordan Travis over a Texas team that has Quinn, Newers and beat Alabama.

Yep, I agree. Did you see that injury? I can't unsee it, Lizzie.

I've got a bunch of text about it, and I was like, Should I look it up? And I did not. Everyone said, Do not.

So I'm telling my wife and one of my daughters, Do not look at the injury. Don't look at it. They heard me yell, all right? Because I was watching watching I was watching their postgame show, our half-time show was Kevin Kevin and and McFarland, I think. They played it not knowing what the end result was going to be. They got criticized for it. I didn't want to see it. Now I can't can't not it. I told my kids and my wife, Don't look for it. Don't seek it out. My wife did it. One of my kids did, and she regrets doing so.

No, absolutely not. I was told told ESP and apologized for it. Once I heard that, I was like, I'm not ever going to look this up. I don't want to see it. I like Jordan Travis. That's a super sad injury.

Absolutely not. So sad. All right, Washington plays Oregon this weekend. Can Washington beating Oregon for the second time this season? Lucy or Goosey?

I'm going to go Goosey, and we're going to use use this cactus that I have.

Okay.

All right. It's like a bulletin board. That's Goosey. Yeah, that's Goosey. So I'm Goosey on this one. Washington, God, Oregon State really, really should have won that game. That fourth down conversion at the end of the game was just such such It was a weird play call. Dj didn't have it. Oregon State should have won. Washington has been flirting with losing for the last five weeks in a row. I think they're one of the more overrated teams in this playoff discussion, if not the most overrated team. I think Oregon is better than Washington. I think you just got unlucky schedule-wise, where you played that game in Seattle instead of Eugene. Since then, it's been all downhill for Washington and all uphill for Oregon. It's weird to compare opponents, but this week, I believe Oregon beat Arizona State by 63. Yes. That was a team that almost beat Washington.

Right.

Right now, Oregon is the better team. I think if they meet up in the Pac-12 championship game, Oregon will win that game. But once again, this is rivalry week. Things Things and Oregon has has Oregon in Eugene this weekend, but that is a feisty Oregon State team with a lot to play for. For. So can get a world where Oregon picks up their second loss, which I.

Don't want. Got ahead. But I do want it at the same time. Got ahead of myself. You're right, Oregon plays Oregon State, and then they play. If they win that game, they'll play Washington in the Pac-12 Championship game the following following week, playoff without either Washington or or Lucy or Goosey. It could happen, Lucy.

I'm going to say Lucy on the sense it could could happen, that I want it to happen. I think if you would ask me this question a year ago before the Jordan-Travis injury, I would have said I would have been way more, Yeah, this is absolutely going to happen. The Pac-12 gets left out every year. It's one of my favorite traditions in college football. It's so funny. But you have two of the best teams in Oregon, Washington. I think if Oregon could beat Washington, beat Oregon State, they have earned their spot in the the and they deserve to be there. Florida State, what happened to them really helps the Pac-12 out.

Really does. Agreed to you. Alabama beating Georgia in the SEC Championship Championship Lucy or Goosey?

I'm going to go Goosey on this one, but very very in the Goosey. Right. Alabama has been playing phenomenal the last few weeks, but the way that Georgia beat Tennessee is the way they do it every single week. They give you an ounce of hope. They let you take a touchdown lead, and then they make you wish that you had never played football in your life. That is what Georgia does too. Too. They are a constrictor that gives you a little bit of life and then they suffocate you. Alabama is going to be the best team that Georgia has faced all year by a mile because on this, I don't think it's as good as people think they are. I know Tennessee isn't. Mizzou is pretty solid, but this is going to be a good game. I still think that Georgia is just light years better than almost everyone else at this point. The only team I would put up there is Michigan, and Michigan's got everything going on. I'm going to go go but I'm hoping for a.

Good good If Alabama is is Texas also needs to be in. Lucy or Goosey?

I'm going to go go on this one. Okay. A win at at Tuscaloosa- Is big. Is the most valuable win on anyone's schedule anywhere in the country, and it should be considered. Texas also passed the eye test. The Oklahoma game, that's Red River. That weird things things that's hard to acknowledge. Kansas State, you you missing your starting quarterback. You still won that game, and that's the the Texas normally loses. They went into Ames this weekend, which is actually a pretty tough place to play. I do think that if Alabama beats Georgia, we won't see Texas in because I think they'll fit Alabama and Georgia Georgia in, Texas deserves to be there. I'm not saying they'll do the right thing, but that's where they should be.

Michigan beating Ohio State this weekend. Lucy or Goosey?

I'm very very on this one. I know that there's a lot going on with Michigan. I know that they struggled against Maryland this weekend. They're just a lot better than Ohio State is. Ohio State's offense is Marvin Harrison Jr, and that's phenomenal. For 90% of your games, that's all you need, not against Michigan. That's a phenomenal defense. Jj McCarthy has been so consistent for Michigan all year. I think they're a lot better. This game is in Ann Arbor. I know Jim Harball is not going to be there. Maybe that helps. Who knows?

Bo Nicks winning the Heisman Trophy. Lucy or Goosey?

I wish he would. He's my favorite. But I'm going to go Goosey on this one.

One because.

Belongs to Jaden Daniels at LSU. Agreed. That should be his award. He has played. His stats are out of this world world insane, and LSU had half a better defense, we wouldn't even consider anyone else for this award. Right. I love love He should be a finalist. It would make my heart so happy to see him win because I think his story is awesome, just what he went through at Auburn to now be here. But no, it shouldn't go to him.

Did you enjoy Sam Hartman's senior day against against team that he played for four or five five.

I'm going to go goosey because I won't believe that it's actually his senior day until he's done.

Right. He said it will never be.

His senior day. He's not done yet. He's not done yet. He's going to find a a.

Did you believe that someone someone Marshmell and Sam Sam hot chocolate from the stands?

Do I.

Believe that? Yeah, that's a story that he told.

No. No.

This is his 10th senior day, so he's.

Just like- Exactly. He's got 10 more to go. -trying to take this one more special. Special. Yeah, right. Last one for for you, Thanksgiving coming By the way, you didn't cry when you went to Clemson, correct? You were fine?

No, I got a little emotional towards the end, but I was so thrown off by the the of of that I was like, I don't really have time to.

Soak this in. I would have left. You would have left. It's a weird thing to do. It feels like Colton showing us. Us. Yeah, weird. I was so confused. I don't know. I already did God bless America enough. Can we play football? Football? A turkey, Lucy or Goosey?

I'm not a huge turkey person, so I'm going to go Goosey. Definitely not fried.

No, you'd be a a.

Turkey person. Hell, yeah. No turkey, Hi, Lucy. Turkey sucks.

I don't really like turkey that much. It's so fried.

Turkey sucks. You just said.

Turkey is not good, but if you got to have it fried.

You have it once a year, I mean...

It could be none a year.

None a year. I think we're on that zero.

I'm Eber done with turkey.

Give me me ham. All right, Lucy, we appreciate it. Do we know where we're going this week? Do we have any idea?

We do not. We are really hoping that Michigan says yes. We're really hoping Michigan says yes. If not, we might be doing a two-for-one. We might go to the Egg Egg Bowl. But we do know we're going to the SEC Championship Game next week, so we're excited about that.

I feel like you should have leveraged this into just going home for Thanksgiving, like just find a game near you.

I don't want to go to Wake Forest Football for Thanksgiving, that seems.

How about Oregon State?

Okay, so we were supposed to go to that. That would have been cool. They emailed us back and they were like, You applied for for didn't show up, so we're not not getting any So we lost those. Our fault. We're sorry, Oregon.

So we're shooting, we're aiming for Michigan because I'm about to send a text to Leroy Hoard.

Yes, Michigan is top choice. Okay. They said maybe. Maybe. They said maybe.

All Well, you keep me posted and I'll let you know what Leroy says, okay? All right. He was the 89 89 Rose MVP, I think. Think. It have been All right, Lucy, we appreciate it. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. We'll see you soon.

All right. See you guys.

Okay. Welcome back.

Thank.

You, Billy. I just feel like I want to welcome the audience back.

I know, it's professional.

You guys are giving me crap in the break about doing that. Guys, this is a television product, okay? Yes. It's on a podcast now as well, but we have to play to the television audience that's tuning in on the DraftKings network. We've just come out of a commercial break, so.

Welcome back. I'm aware. It's a.

Good job by you. It's going back to your days of live live radios, two I know. You come back, you say, Hey, we're back.

Yeah, you reset. Reset, yeah. I miss a good reset.

I don't. I I do.

Not that You.

Know what what on the podcast that I think is like a habit that you still have from the radio days?

Resetting. Resetting a guest in particular.

I.

Always do it. I know. Where they know who the guest is. They see the podcast description. I know.

I know. I know. Know. I know. I know it's.

All the the time.

Do it. Listen, what can I tell you? I got into this for live radio. It's true. I had no idea when I got into this 20 years ago, I'd be doing something called podcasting. And here I am doing it. It. But right. It's a habit. It's a habit.

It's a habit. It's a habit. It seems I think part of the exchange, though, is like he comes on and he does this this is solid, but mentioned all of my stuff as much as possible.

Yeah, P. F. F.

To Mike.

Pretty much. Yeah, P.

F. T. Of Mike. Every day on Peacock. Unbutton podcast. The Unbutton podcast. Football Night America. Committed to memory.

Memory. Nailed WTF Wednesday's podcast.

I got to promote his stuff, man.

I know. It's just funny that you do it so often. I know. Well, because like I said, it's a habit.

You want to know my gamesmanship of the week this week in the NFL?

Yes.

All right. This week's gamesmanship.

Is this a new segment here?

Here? Moment of the Well, if I ever do it again, it is a new segment. Okay. And if it gets sold, then it has to be a segment. But gamesmanship of the week, the Seahawks signed signed Rippen to to practice squad this week after he was cut by the the Gamesmanship.

He knows the secrets.

Everybody on the sideline was going up to to Bret to see what what Bret knew because because they playing his old dear. What are they.

Going to do here? Exactly right.

The The Intel Gamesmanship.

Didn't.

Work, but gamesmanship. See how I'd still lost, gamesmanship.

Belichick, he's doing that all the time. I don't know what you probably don't remember. The Dolphins had a receiver named Pat Turner. He was a nobody for USC. The second the Dolphins cut him, boom, signed by Belichick. Never played a snap.

I.

Feel.

Bad for that person person that's being used for the week. I mean, they get a game check for a week, but like-.

I was going to say they don't mind.

Well, actually, you know what? Gino didn't get hurt.

Yeah, I think Ruben got in.

No, Ruben did not get in. No. Oh, no. Oh, no.

Oh, no. Drue-law came came in. Drew Lock in.

He's still there? Jesus. Drue-law came came and he had one one job, blow it. And he failed.

He blew it. He blew it. It. Yeah, he blew He did. Yeah. There's some bad calls towards the end of that game. Some bad beats, too. I mean, the the should have covered five different times in that game. So annoying. Annoying. And Iowa, the event that you're wondering why I always buy hooks, hooks, was minus three. I bought it down to two and a half. They scored not one, but two touchdowns. Congratulations to them. They had a chance to cover the spread with an extra point. That's why you buy down the half point. Two and a a half?

Got blocked. I wish.

This was a.

A I hate them. I wish this was a sports, gambling state so that I knew more about this, Sugats, but you buy down every single game that I feel like even if you win the majority of the bets, you're still losing with the amount of money you're spending.

Buying points. Yeah, I I want seven to and I lost this weekend.

The rare 7-0.

That's a loss. I didn't get 7-0. But I understand your point. I'm buying way too many points. It's too costly. You want the top five things I know before we get to your big board bets?

Sure, we can do that.

These are the top five things I know about the NFL. Oh, okay. All right. Top five things I know. Number five, the Browns defense is great. Thank you. Bit early. Early. Number four, great. I know that. I know they're great. Regardless of what happens the rest of the way, that defense, great. Not their fault. Number four, if the Dolphins get home field advantage, they are going to the Super Bowl.

Bowl. Don't know That's not a thing you know.

They're 18 and two two last 20 games at home. I believe they're undefeated this year at home. They played-.

Five-a-no at.

Home this year. Yeah, five-a-no. They didn't play well yesterday. Still got got win. They're going to be tough to to beat they're at home. On the road, different story. Number three, Brandon Staley is out. That much I know. I know know that. Out. Number two, took me a while to know this. Mikey A. He's been telling me for a while. Zach Wilson is bad. Bad quarterback.

Yeah. Yeah.

Stinks. Right? Yeah. It's all we got. Timmy Boyle.

Jim Nantz said, And that pass was not accurate at one point during the game. And I just said, We've been saying that for years, Jim.

There's not a chance that Aaron is back the first week of December practicing.

There's no reason to come back. That's crazy. There's no reason to come back.

I think he comes back to practice. I don't ever want to.

See him- How can you say there's no reason for him to come back in the same episode in which you say say Jets are still in.

Playoff contention? Because at that point, December second, look at their their I don't think they'll have another victory. That's what.

Black Friday. No one's ever won or lost on Black Friday.

You have them them the dolphins, huh?

No one's ever won or lost on Black Friday.

I'm petrified of that game. How? Because the Mike Mike system is so based on on timing. Oh, stop it. Knocked them off a little and they're they're done they can't stop the run. Bruce Hall is going to have 300 yards.

Where are the jets getting points.

In that game? Defense.

Defense.

Defense and.

Bruce Hall. Defense. What?

I'm nervous about any game that's played in that stadium. That stadium is mess. Right. It just takes one misstep. You know better than anyone else, your season is done.

They beat the Eagles and Bulls this year. I mean, I can't believe it, but they have. So maybe there's a chance.

They could beat the the Dolphins the Broncos.

Did you you see, too, and the Broncos? Dot. Did see two are trying to throw across his body yesterday? If it's not one, two, set your feet, plant, throw it to recale, they're done.

It's very easy.

To disrupt. Really? Just rush the pastor. Rush the pastor and.

Bump, tirey, kill a little bit. We have.

To get get Billy's big board bets. We only have a couple of minutes here. Number one, top five things I know about the NFL. The Lions are as good as any team in the NFL. That's it. Top five things I know.

That's it.

All right. Good list.

Thank you.

Plan from a Billy's bets big board brought to you by, and we don't have a sponsor yet. If this is a sports, gambling state, these are three things that I would feel feel possibly strong enough to bet on. The first one, tonight's game. Oh, wow. Kings Chiefs over 45 and a half.

Super Bowl Bowl that feels like a Super Bowl preview.

I don't know that it's going to happen. I'm hoping it happens. I want a good game if we're going to watch it, right?

Yes, of course, we want a good game. I think we'll get a good game. But it's one of those games that you circle. Well, do you really circle it? Do you get the NFL calendar out and circle this game?

Yeah. I think we're set up for a Dud.

I circle.

Oh, yeah. You think.

This is going to be a Dud? You have an.

Actual circle around it? I think we're set up for a Dud too, man.

Sure. All right, the next one. Travis, Kelsey, over 75 and a half receiving yards today. This one I'm not sure about because Taylor is not going.

To to Jason, Kelsey?

No, Travis. Travis. Yeah, no, there's going to be bad weather in Brazil, so Taylor is not going to be there, which makes you wonder if Taylor's parents are going to be going to meet the Kelsey parents without Taylor Taylor because that's weird.

But if she's there, you you Mohom is going out of his way to impress Taylor.

I think that Travis is still going to try to put on a show for the Swift parents, but I don't know. Final one, Eagles plus three. Oh, wow. Wow. Yeah, the Eagles is winning this Even though I think it's a must-win game, must-win game for the Chiefs.

If you're a Dolphins fan, you're rooting for the Eagles. Yeah. That's it. Yeah.

Must-win game. Must-win game.