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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference.

Seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now here's The marching Man to Nowhere, Fatface, and The Habitual Liar.

Yesterday, we were talking about Brandons and Staley melting down in the original meltdown that we saw that had the spit, acidic phrase in it. What do you think my mood is, Jeff? I've told you that the aforementioned Jeff is my friend Jeff Miller, who covers the Chargers for the Los Angeles Times. All I do every Sunday is send him messages wherever it is that he is, making fun of him following at 60, this team around the Earth.

He's probably at the Chargers game.

I know. That's what I'm saying. He said wherever he is. Well, wherever he is, they're traveling all over that game moves. It's not always in the same place. Wherever he is in America, I text him to remind him that he's been covering a loser with the end of his career. Where Justin Herbert, yeah, he had the best pass rating of anybody last week, but they lost because that's what.

They do. Wait, Brockfordy had a perfect one.

Okay. He did. Okay. There we go. It was perfect. I have in front of me, though, Jeff Miller has just texted me that he sent me something that our account sent out. He just says, This is too damn funny. Let's play for the audience what the video is that my friend, what do you think my mood is, Jeff, sent me here of Brad Williams, the comedian, our friend Brad Williams, who was a Metallark correspondent at the recent Broncos game. Hope he didn't have a beer. Let's see what we've got here. The mood around the Broncos has changed a little bit, huh? Literally, I'm looking up at my screen, Sal Pal has the Broncos as.

The biggest challanger to the.

Chiefs in.

The AFC. Wow, back in the mix. Sean Payton, Coach of the Year. Russell Wilson back in the Hall of Fame.

What is Sal Pal saying?

The biggest.

Challanger in the.

Afc to the Chiefs. What?

I know, it's crazy.

They beat him head to head.

Wait a minute. Based on what? Beat him head?

They beat him head to head.

They played him, they beat him.

But the Dolphins beat the Broncos by a lot. Okay, but here's the thing. We're watching it on mute so we don't know. Maybe he's saying that they're going to win the division and they're going to beat the Chiefs in the division? I can't imagine what he's saying.

Well, let's examine this for a second because some people are noticing that the chiefs haven't beaten anybody except the dolphins, who haven't beaten anybody. Right.

Weird.

It is weird, but I told you we somehow watched a game on Sunday that didn't pit winning teams against each other. Like all of the games we were watching, only Stealers and Browns had winning teams against each other. So you do realize that we can basically say that the jets are the only team to have beaten anybody this year because they beat the Eagles.

It's funny about that, what's happening with the Broncos is people never want to disassociate team success with the quarterback, and people are assuming, Yeah, Russell Wilson's playing well. No, he's doing the exact same thing. He was actually taking less chances. He's actually a pretty frustrating watch. This is all the defense. Their offense is actually worse during this stretch than it was when they were losing the games. What Vans Joseph has done with that defense is a story there.

I'd like to, if you don't mind, get that sound for me of Tom braided on the Stephen A. Smith podcast because Stugart. Tom braided has put his voice on something, and he's been saying this for a while. I don't hear a lot of- It's his fault. I don't hear a lot of people saying what Tom braided is saying about football. I don't even see what it is that Tom braided is seeing when he says this. Is it simply a complaint, Stugart, about the lack of physical football? Is it just the flag football thing that people are saying? Is that what's happening?

Yeah, I guess. I think with braided, it's interesting because football has changed. It's not as violent and the.

Quarterback's way. Hold on. Hold on. This is like when you're in.

High school.

I thought you were going to play sound first. No, this is like when you're in high school and you're doing a group read and you're not following along and the teacher calls on you to read. Let's see how well you can fake it.

Okay, so- Why did he ask you? Yeah, ask the question again, though. No, no, no.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

That's not it. It's totally about flag football. It's totally the rules to protect the quarterback. It's not as violent. They're not tackling as hard. Last night was football. Tom braided had to be happy with last night's game because last night that was football. That's football that I grew up watching. You had running back versus running back. You had Pacheco versus Swift, you had the Elements. You had Kansas City, you had Arrowhead Stadium, and Chris Jones is a menace. That was a violent football game that Tom braided.

Is a fan of. Your Tom braided take is talking about last night's game. Yes.

Where did you drift off to? You were nodding the entire time.

I thought.

You were playing sound. No, but where did you drift off to? Because I said-As soon as you called for the braided sound, he's like, I don't got to listen.

We're good. I got to be honest. I got a text from Chris Sims, and I was reading it, and I wasn't paying attention to you. That's not fair to you, and I apologize for it. It's insincere, but I apologize.

Let's play the Tom braided sound on.

The-sorry, Dan. That's where I thought you were going, the sound.

It's.

Insincere, but I apologize. Listen, when I was listening, at the time I was listening, you were throwing it to sound. When I came back, it's like you with the Chief's bet last night. When I came back to you after reading Sims' text, you would change the entire game.

I said several times, Dugat, I was trying to talk to you, and also there was a blanket panic in the room because I needed the relief of someone else talking because I clearly had a frog in my throat. Right. So I asked you like.

Three times- I started.

Talking, yeah. -but not when you were supposed to start talking as if you were listening and understanding what it is that I was saying.

Well, I was telling Mike in his headset, Hey, let's get our guys some water here.

He's choking. All of us were saying, Talk. We were all pointing at you like that.

Was to you. In fairness to God. I was texting him.

Yeah, he did. I was being the best teammate I've ever been. I mean, I was. Ask Mike. I told him right in his headset. I said, Mike, water. Let's go. Aqua.

Are you taking your shirt off today or not?

We'll see. I'll get back to you tomorrow.

Well, no, we had until the end of this hour, and we're five.

Minutes away. Where's the, braided?

I think there's a lot of mediocrity in today's NFL. I don't see the excellence that I saw in the past. Why not? I think the coaching isn't as good as it was. I don't think the development of young players is as good as it was. The rules have allowed a lot of bad habits to get into the actual performance of the game. I just think the product, in my opinion, is less than what it's been. I think I look at a lot of players like Ray Lewis and Rodney Harrison and Ronnie Lot and guys that impacted the game in a certain way, and every hit they would have made would have been a penalty. You hear coaches complaining about their own player being tackling them and not necessarily, why don't they talk to their player about how to protect themselves? We used to work on the fundamental of those things all the time. Now they're trying to be regulated all the time. Offensive players need to protect themselves. It's not up to the defensive player to protect the offensive player. A defensive player needs to protect himself. I didn't throw the ball to certain areas because I was afraid players are going to get knocked out.

That's the reality. I didn't throw it to the middle when I played Ray Lewis because you knock him out of the game and I couldn't afford to lose a good player.

Nailed it.

He looks tremendous. He does. Even for him. The year away from football, if it's going to be a year away from football, still haven't closed the door. But the tan, the skin, he looks incredible. That was a hell of a point that he made about just I wouldn't throw it to the middle of the field because Ray Lewis would knock my player out of the game.

He's comparing some of the best safeties of all time, top.

Five.

Linebacker of all... Yeah, most players aren't those guys. Well, let's examine certain portions of this because I want to say what the hell is he talking about? However, clearly, vastly more expertise, clearly, than anyone listening to this about what it is.

That he has watched- Than anybody in the history.

Of civilization. -and the longevity to play through several eras of the NFL to actually give you that first-hand experience.

But he sounds like every old player who has retired from the game complaining about how it was better than in my day. We did the fundamentals like, Oh, we.

Taught guys how to not get concussions.

It also ignores when he says, Well, we'll legislate it now, that all of the rules changed the moment he got hurt. They changed the rules when he was the one who was injured. So what he's complaining about is something that was legislated by the league in order to protect him above all others.

To keep him healthy, yes.

Have you guys missed him this year? Yes. Because I think when you're watching the NFL, you're just excited for football. But a lot has been made about the Prime Time Unders and another one, Cash, last night. I have a whole theory of that. We're getting a lot of Prime Time Unders and a lot of bad Prime Time games, specifically because he's not in the league right now, occupying a lot of that Prime real estate. I miss him.

A lot.

I don't necessarily miss him in Tampa. Baker Mayfield's been fun. I just miss him in the NFL, making games feel like an event and scoring and rising to the occasion. I miss Tom braided.

He's acting, though, as if he didn't play during that Brock Oswiler year I was complaining about. I don't watch today's NFL and think the things that he thought there. I don't think I'm watching a mediocre product. I think I'm watching the product at the very height of human athleticism and precision that is also trying to navigate and legislate its way around the labyrinth of all of these people are going to be hurt because it's beyond dangerous what you're watching. It's not sustainable to keep human beings healthy for an entire season. Maybe you've got an assortment of tough guys who can play through everything, but Travis Kelsie is now being quoted to God, who doesn't miss very many games, is saying, You have no idea how much I think about retiring. I'm spending a lot of time thinking about retiring because my body hurts so much.

You're just trying to think of a billionaire. I'd be thinking about the end too, a little bit. We tried scoping up reasons as to why the Chief's offense isn't as good, and we're blaming the receivers, and you're accurate to point out, Well, they had very similar receivers last year. No one wants to just admit that defenses are better. All the defenses have been built over these last few years to stop what they're seeing in Kansas City because it's a cheat code. A damn near gets you into the Super Bowl every year. They're built to stop the Reed option as they were when Kaepernick was destroying the league with the Niners, and now the Eagles are trying to do it. You can only dominate for so long. Tom braided is the only person that knows what it's like to dominate throughout eras. He went up against these brilliant players that were just designed to knock people out because that's the only way that you can stop this guy. It's a great era for defense, and that is not sexy, not nearly as sexy as him.

He does look great. Fantastic. You're not joking when you say getting the football off of him has probably refreshed him, because I don't think we understand all of that brutality.

But look at the difference between this clip, how good he looks, and that ring video doorbell of Bill Belichick leaving that place in Worcester. Look what the separation has done to both of these individuals. Good audio.

Jaylen Heurt is now Stugat's 23 and 2 as the starter for Philadelphia. Winner.

Do it in the Super Bowl. Well, we did. He was the best player in the Super Bowl. He's a winner, Dan, but do it in the Super Bowl. You got to cap it off. This is the best chance. Guys like Jaylen Hearts, Lamar Jackson, Tua, they've ever had of winning a Super Bowl. Why? Because the Holmes is not as good as it used to be. That offense is not as good as it used to be. Burrows out, Rogers is out. They all have opportunities here. Go get it, Jaylen Hearts. What?

Don Lebertard. Dave Kool-Yay is with us. Did you see the shandling documentary Judd-Apatow did?

Stugatz. Yeah, I was in it.

This is the Don Lebertard Show with the Stugats.

The listeners, as always, anytime we tell them or ask them to do anything to support anything, they do it very strongly. So the Pride of a Lie in the book that Ron McGill and Greg Cody have done together is selling very well. And a portion of the proceeds last week go to the Ron McGill Substantive Endowment. Greg Cody, having gotten what he wanted from the show last week, which was promotion for this book and bestseller status, immediately took this Tuesday off and treated this as if it's not his job where he has to do things. He got the promotion that he wanted, and so he's not here today. And Chris Cody has said it's because he's on assignment, which is just bullshit. It means that he wants to fry a turkey on Thursday barefooted, and he's getting ready. And it's not. When he said assignment, I was like, Really? What is that? He doesn't go anywhere. He writes columns in his underwear in the office that he hasn't changed since 1980.

Well, I mean, he's got a job to do, Danny. Black Friday for the Herald. Black Friday for.

The Herald. This is.

The first time ever. Thank you.

Yes. It's Tuesday.

It is Tuesday, and his job is not so hard getting ready for the Dolphins game on Friday.

It's Tuesday, but in terms of a football week, it's Greg's Thursday now because of the Friday game. Right.

Are you guys-Thank you, Billy. Yes, I was going to say that, but I mean.

He's just- He's not here. You don't need to defend him the same way.

Right, it's unnecessary. I get it when he's.

Here and gets me. Billy gets me. You do the thing together. But come on.

You guys don't understand a hard day's work. That's what Greg does.

Not every time.

Chris, I don't believe there's an enjoyment that I get around here that is better than your father perpetually thinking that Billy is actually on his side.

He's honestly dumb.

I.

Am. I feel.

Bad for him. I don't think my dad's.

Picked up on it. I feel bad for how dumb it is. Are we.

Talking to animals or what are we doing here? Because I have a.

Question here for Ryan. Yes, you can ask in the second.

I'm marvel. I said, I'm wondering. I'm like, How do you not get that he's making fun of you?

It is why Greg Cody likes... It is one of the greatest magic tricks pulled around here. Greg Cody absolutely likes Billy more than everyone here. His own son included.

When Billy is making more fun.

Of him. His son's rude to him, if we're going to be perfect.

But you are, too. You're just.

In disguise. You're insulting his intelligence.

You're worse.

It's not falsehoods. It's the ultimate truthhood.

No one is meaner to the old man. The poor old man than you. It is.

Obvious to everyone listening, Billy, and it is one of the reasons that you're so popular that you will endorse and cosign whatever absurdity Greg Cody offers, and all he does is offer absurdities. And your greatest trick is that the chief participant, you have him fooled. He absolutely believes that he's never had someone who's more of a soulmate, more simpatico than you. You agree with everything that he says.

He's often right.

The Pride of a Lion is out now, and you can get it wherever it is you get books. Ron, I have some videos to play for you here, but what was the question, Billy, that you had.

For Ron? Ron, recently in the news we saw that, unfortunately, you had to put down a tiger at the zoo because the tiger had cancer. We also recently realized that there is a tiger born. I was wondering if the tiger that was born, I believe in September, was the spawn or child of the tiger that had to be put down.

Yes, she is. I'll be making a much more official announcement on Thanksgiving. I'll be sending out some video and some photographs. But she is, in fact, the daughter of Barani. The circle of life comes to life right here at Zumayah.

Did Billy just nuke your big Thursday announcement at the zoo that -?

No, the zoo put out on social media that this cat was born, but they didn't put any pictures or any video with it. They just put a still shot of an ultrasound image, like the thing that married couples do when they want to announce we're pregnant. But there's no shot to the cub. That'll be coming out on Thursday. I'll be sending out video and pictures that I took on Thursday.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but was there an other mystery to this? Or was he the only possible father?

He's the only possible father, Mike. Way to go. Thank you.

Well, I don't think it's that big of a surprise, Ron.

No, it's not.

Well, I mean-You said it was a big announcement.

I'm not surprised that he's the father. The surprise was that the cub.

Was born. Wait, you're going to bring Maury out? There's only one possible science.

Wait a second. He's done a DNA test? I don't know. Right.

He said big announcement. Not big surprise, just a big announcement. That's all.

In all reality, Mike, it could have been artificial in from sperm collected from another tiger to another zoo because that has happened.

See?

Well, speaking of that, there's a story I want to get to about an Argentinean President who has cloned dogs. We'll get to that in a second. But first, I want to play a lobster video for you here, Ron. Tell me what it is that's happening here. A main lobster is half blue, half brown, half male. This is the coolest lobster I've ever been to. Half male? Solid timing. Half female. It is blowing up on TikTok. The lobster is named Bowie, after David Bowie. What? Yeah, it's currently looking for a science center or an aquarium to adopt it. Let's see this lobster. This is the coolest lobster I've ever seen. Not only is this split 50-50 right down its.

Bat, blue and normal, but if you.

Look underneath, it's actually half male, half female. The blue side is a male, the normal side is a female. Split 50-50 perfectly. Super pretty blue. Very cool. You got to throw that in the tank and just eat it right up. Ron, what are your thoughts there?

Well, it's a hermaphrodite, and being a hermaphrodite is not common, but not unheard of in a wide variety of animals. I mean, I remember photographing a hermaphrodite lion in Africa that had female genitalia but grew a main and had internal testicles. Hermaphrodites do occur in many different types of mammals, including humans, though people don't discuss it much. The blue coloration is a genetic mutation. Blue lobsters are incredibly rare, but it obviously is carrying that gene. Half of it turned out blue, half of it turned out normal. That's just a genetic mutation. Just like somebody has blue eyes, somebody has brown eyes, it's just blue in a lobster is incredibly rare. These animals can live. They've been said to live close to 100 years. Here you have a hermaphrodite. It's interesting. I don't know if she's actually or he's actually reproductive or not, but it is a hermaphrodite, a very unique coloration. So it's a neat animal.

What are the challenges in the animal kingdom of being a hermaphrodite? Any to speak of?

Well, the challenges are you may not be reproductive. You may not be able to successfully reproduce, and you're going to have competition from both sides. Males might fight you for territory, might fight you for the privilege to be with the females. And if you're not fully male, you might be at a disadvantage because you've got half female. You don't have maybe the total amount of strength, hormones that you need in there to fight the male. If you're a female, half female, you're not going to be reproductive, but you might be actively pursued, let's say, by other males on a constant basis without really getting any benefit from it.

Ron, are animals in the.

Wild ever just best friends? Or is it always just about?

What? What? Jesus.

Wow. I mean, kids listen to this program.

Why are you working- I know, I get emails.

Kids listen to this program.

We bleep all the effort, Marcus. But why are you... But it was not necessary. I'm saying in the Animal Kingdom, he was.

Just.

Talking about how it's always about sex.

They.

Have friends all the time. They're friends all the time. There are, in fact, animals that are friends. There are animals that develop bonds that stay with each other for long periods of time. They are very dependent on each other's company. And yes, it's not always about the sex. And having said that, though, sex is not always about reproduction either. We've heard that myth that animals have sex only to reproduce, and that is not true. There are certain animals that enjoy it just for the enjoyment. Dolphins.

We've been showing you- Dolphins are the greatest example. Are they not?

Well, but bonobos, pigney, chimpansees, too. Unbelievable.

Who is more unbelievable there? The chimpansey or the dolphin in terms of sex for pleasure?

I want to have to say it's the bonobo, the pigmeat, chimpansee, because not only do they enjoy it for pleasure, but that's how they settle every dispute. There's no physical violence in the bonobo community and the culture. Everything is settled with sex.

Imagine that. At your zoo, you have chimpansees. My main takeaway whenever I see those chimpansees are, Man, their asses are inflamed. What is a gale? Okay, well-.

But it's not their butts. It is the- It looks.

Like the asshole.

-the vulva of the female. It's the vulva of the female that gets very swollen when.

She's- It's the vagina that looks like that?

Well, the vulva, the outward parts of it gets swollen to basically become a very visual signal to the males that she is ready to reproduce. When she's at the peak of recycle, that blows up like a big, huge pink balloon, and many people think it's some tumor or something, but it's really a physical sign to the males that she's at the peak of.

Sexual reproduction. Ron, which animal likes sex the least?

Abbey on the Sunday.

No guts.

I've heard cows have best friends.

Cows do have best friends. A lot of them. Listen, you go to racetracks, for instance, they have horses that have goats in the stalls with them or different other smaller ponies and such because it keeps them calm. It keeps them settled. They are actually bonded to these animals. Dogs have best friends than us, but I also have best friends and other dogs. I've seen best friends with cats. I mean, animals develop really incredible allegiances to other animals. I've seen it not only in domestic animals, but also in the wild.

Do you want to answer Stugatz's question? Is there an animal or animal more likely to be asexual, indifferent?

There's no animals that are truly asexual. There are animals that when they breed, for instance, the octopus has its reproductive organ in one of its legs. And when it reproduces, sometimes the female literally bites off the leg has to develop another reproductive organ in another one of its legs. So that's a bit of a huge sacrifice in my book.

In anybody's book. I don't think there are books that don't have that as a huge sacrifice. It's not just your book. Your book is A Pied of a Lion. You can get that wherever it is you get your books. I think that's a… We can all agree on that. Put it on the pole. We can't agree on anything at Levitard show, does it seem like a huge sacrifice to lose your genitalia during sex. Yes. I want to play for you. We've been playing for you bear videos. This is a thief of a bear. The bear is stealing a lasagna. Let's see what it is that this bear does inside of a home with stairs. Hit it.

All right, so- Video, you're killing it. No, this just doesn't have sound. Right. So you have to play play by play.

Right now. Security video. You have to say what you think the bear is thinking.

The bear's going to the refrigerator.

The bear smells. Understanding the bear's nose is one of its number one determining factors of its behavior. It smells before it sees, before it hears. Yeah, it's grabbing stuff out of the fridge. This is no big surprise. Anybody who lives in bear country knows that any bear can follow smell. Oh, my God! It's going out the window. I love it. Tammin, I think, did it come into the front door through that window?

But that's fantastic. It left the freezer open.

It left the.

Freezer open. That's very rude. Grab the whole lasagna, an entire lasagna.

Yeah, listen, whatever had the most powerful smell coming out of that fridge or freezer is what that bear is going to grab. That's just no surprise. Like I said, bear's sense of smell is unbelievable. It's many, many times stronger than human being.

Roy, you wanted to ask Ron something? I'm going to put the President of Argentina up here a photo of him with his cloned dogs. He's got five of them. They were made in a laboratory in upstate New York. Yeah, my question based off of that is, would you.

Ever clone your dog? He has five clones based off his dead dog. I miss my dog more than words can say. Cloning is just crossing a line for me that unless it's a last attempt to save a species, I think every individual should live as itself and pass on as itself and live with the memories. I think it's very dangerous when we start trying to bring individuals back from the dead, so to speak. And that's basically what he's trying to do there. I'm not a big fan of cloning unless it's something, again, to save a species.

Put it on the pole, JuJu. Is it very dangerous to bring animals back from the dead?

You know what I mean, Dan? You're putting words into my words.

You know what I mean? No, they're your words. I'm not putting.

Any words in your words. I understand, but I think when we clone an animal, we're expecting to see that very same animal that we lost come back. And animals certainly have genetic material that makes up their character, but that's also a product of their environment. So you have to be very careful on your expectations. Yeah, but this is this fifth clone.

This is like that Michael Keaton.

Movie, multiplicity. Will it get.

Dumber and dumber and dumber. What a great Paul by Roy. It's not one dog. It's five of them. He's not just- But it's your dog. Yeah, but it's five of them. It's not your dog. It's five of them.

Yeah, it's true. I think that's an extreme, and I'm not a fan of it.

It's not your dog. It's five of them from a lab in New York that you had Amazon in. That's not your dog anymore. It's five robot dogs from Upstate New York. It's not the same thing.

That's creepy, guys. Just think about if they did that with a person and you had five of the same person of the one that you knew. Doesn't that give you the creeps? It gives.

Me a little bit of the creeps. Yeah, but you're prolonging the relationship with something that you love very, very much.

No, you're not. No, you're not.

But you are. In a way you are.

No, you're not.

An.

Essence of that.

You could be if you're not telling the person that you're cloning the dog and you're like, Man, my dog is 55 years old. How did this happen? It's like, Well, this is the eighth one of this dog.

Well, I think this technique has also not been perfected. I remember Dolly the Sheep when she died. She died a little bit prematurely, and there were some things about that. I don't know. To me, it sounds like a horror film, so I'm not a big fan.

Went straight to hell.

The Pride of a Lion is the name of the book. He did it with Greg Cody. Ron, thank you. Happy Thanksgiving, sir. Enjoy the holidays.

Same to all of you guys. Thanks for everything.

Take care. Indivisible.

Don't let people forget that. Don't let people forget that. Did you ever have a crush on a cartoon character?

Oh, can I go? This isn't my question, but I did. Jessica Rabbit. Who framed Roger Rabbit?

Yes, I think.

She was married to Roger Rabbit, even though he was a Bunny and she was a humanoid. But they were both cartoons.

Stugats. I had a crush on Betty Rubble. Oh, wow.

What? What?

That's pretty good.

That's funny. That's pretty good. What a revelation. Whoa, with a surprise nomination from Stugats, showing you his dirty, dirty, inner nine-year-old.

This is the Don Levator show with the Stugazh. I think he.

Has to worry about that because of the age difference.

I'm just wondering if you did. I'm just wondering. But it's not a prolonging. It's not a prolonging relationship.

I'm prolonging the relationship.

-it's.

Not a prolonging, no. You're really not a concern.

Well, I have learned recently that these things don't always happen in the age order that they're supposed to happen in. But what Stugats is saying about prolonging Valerie? I would not be prolonging Valerie. I'd be getting a sex robot from an upstate New York lab that wouldn't be the same thing.

What's the matter.

With you? I don't know. I'm just….

When are we doing this shirtless penalty? Billy, I'm going to test. Iron fist. Billy, okay, Iron fist. If he doesn't do this by the end of the week, you're out as commissioner and juju is in. That's how it works. It is how it works. It's how it works beginning right now. If he doesn't do this for you by the end of the week. I can be bought.

I don't make anything for doing this. I'm just doing this as community service, trying to keep the train on the track.

Mike is confused as to why I said that. If you don't want Billy as commissioner anymore, I won't do it.

I want you to do it is what I want. That's all I want. That is.

He's right about that, though. It would be for Billy.

Thank you, Billy.

Well, no, he's also doing it for Dan because Dan doesn't want me in this role because he knows that I'm taking it seriously. Listen, you can question my tactics if you want. It's undeniable that punishments are being paid off at a record pace this year.

Yep, by Lucy.

I'm.

Miserable right now. Tell me about the vomit. What is the vomit situation? Why are you struggling so much with the fake vomit? You are the Taylor Swift. You're the Taylor Cist.

The ExxerSwift.

Nailed it, Dan.

I'm not the Taylor Cist.

That's a big find. I don't think it is. Those are very different. $10.

I don't-The Taylor Cist is not the same thing.

As- The ExerSwift? No, those are very different. This is vomit, not puff.

It's like- There is mesh splitpea soup on her.

It's oatmeal with green makeup in it. It's honestly not as bad as the wig is. The wig is the worst part. It's very, very itchy. It's uncomfortable. I have large ears, so it doesn't really fit. I'm having a terrible time.

You were offering it to for Stugart to offset his shirtlessness, to create distractions around what promises to be a fairly embarrassing situation. We're going to get the payoff for this before the end of the week, though, correct?

Somebody Hopefully, if not, Billy's out. We'll see. Tomorrow then.

I'm just saying, the Iron Fist can't be an Iron fist if Stugart never pays any penalties for.

Several years. I mean, Rocky, last week.

You put on a sweatshirt.

That's what was given to me. What am I supposed to do? Did you do the- I don't buy the.

Costumes around here. Did you do the training montage? Because that was a part of it. No.

I thought that's all I had to do.

No, the whole thing was a training montage video.

I understand that, guys, but from Rocky 4.

But what you don't understand is when the show is over, I race out of here before anyone can catch me.

Exactly right. But what I was doing, what I was handed was a sweatshirt and sweatpants. Stugaz. What am I supposed to do with that? For Rocky 1, by the way, not.

Rocky 4. Just to be clear. Old school, Rocky. Just to be clear, okay? I don't wait around for the company to buy the things that are punishments that I have to serve. You're sitting here serving a punishment and saying, Hey, when is everyone going to take care of this for me? When it's your punishment, not everyone else's punishment.

But that's your kink, not mine. I mean, you're weird with costumes, dude. I mean, you wear them on days where you're not even paying off a punishment. It's crazy. Tomorrow, dude. Shirtless, live and local.

There you go. Committed to the local hour.

Lucy, how was Clemson?

It was really fun. That's an SEC school for sure. Just the entire atmosphere of it was one of the best tailgating scenes I've ever been to. Their fans are super into it. It was one of the loudest crowds we've ever seen. It's an awesome place to see college football. There were a few-weird things.

Few weird things on the website.

Didn't.

Some 11-year-old come up to you asking for Stugats?

They did, yes. We have it on camera.

Okay, how good is this one? Is this as good as the Washington one? Do you feel like the rest of us that all of these are escalating, that we're reaching crescendo on how good these are getting?

Yeah, I think so. Rose and the Video Department edits them and does a phenomenal job. Each week they get better and better. Yes, round of applause for Rose.

My favorite was Bedlam.

So far. Bedlam was great. I think we got some of our funniest fans in Clemson.

But you were about to say there were some weird things that happened. What were the weird things?

They do. So when we were walking down to the field, they sing God bless America. All right, that's fine. That's normal sporting events. Then they went into a prayer, like a whole stadium-wide prayer. I wasn't prepared for that. And then they did the Pledge of Allegiance, and I really wasn't prepared for the Pledge of Allegiance. It just really threw me off. I thought that was done. I thought when high school was over, you've done your time with the pledge no more. And then they do the album moderate, then they do the national anthem.

Indivisible. Lots of singing.

The phrase, okay? The Pledge of Allegiance. I know we've been indoctrinated as students to understand that this is an oath we pledge to our country. But just the phrase, if I tell you an organization has a pledge of allegiance, that's a cult. That's all my mind is doing. If you tell me that people are pledging their allegiance to something, that's a cult. But Clemson Football is a cult, and they're pledging their allegiance to the Tiger. Let's watch that video. Yes, I know Dan Levitar. I went to high school together with Dan. We're really good friends. He's the man, Dan Leavittar.

Did you really go to high school.

With him? No, but he might think I did, and that's all that matters. We are here.

Inin South Carolina for what is one of the best tailgating atmosphere I've ever seen. We are here presented by God's Name, IMAGE, and Likeness. Also, Liquid. Who are you? I'm Lucy.

Who are you? I'm John. A writer down for Clubs of Football.

Hell, yeah. How are you feeling about them this year? I think we're.

Doing okay. We're out here. We're living life.

If you.

Like the tigers.

We're all.

Friends and family. I'm feeling good.

I feel like the stock's rising.

I feel like.

If you buy in now, you'll make a lot of money.

In the future. You just took that from what Davo said. You didn't come up with that. I came up with that way before Davo did. Describe the Clemson tailgating experience.

Best atmosphere in college.

Football is in that.

Stadium right there. Wild. Do you have a favorite Davo Sweeney expression?

Byo-g, bring your own guts. Bring your own guts.

Bring your own guts.

Byo-g.

Baby. Byo-g, bring your own guts. Do you know Tyler from spartenburg? I do.

I do know.

Tyler from spartenburg. Like in real life?

Not in real life, but I've heard his message and I agree with it. I introduced myself as Tyler from spartenburg. This guy behind you has a Carolina football shirt on. Why do you have a Carolina.

Football guy there? What are.

You doing here?

Do you guys know my friend Taylor here? We don't even know.

Where he came from.

He is an Instagramer's celebrity. How about that?

We're with a celebrity, dude.

Taylor. What's up? Everybody wants to talk to Taylor.

You know what? Taylor, we're not going to take.

The mic. I love Taylor on the show. They don't let him on there enough. Do you like me or Lucy Moore? I like you, man. I know you. I've seen you.

All right, so all of you guys know... Three dads.

You know my dad. So he has three kids: me, my brother, and my sister. I'd like for you guys to rank us. Who's your favorite of the three Rodine kids?

-it's definitely the best Rodine.

We're going with Lucy all day long.

-i'm.

Including the dad.

-she surpasses Matt.

Yeah, I.

Would.

Agree. -gilbert. -gilbert.

Dispelling Clemson over and over again. He needs a goal. Thank you.

-i hate you.

-thank you. -5, 6, 7.

The Clemson fans have now stormed the field two times, and the game was not done both times. I mean, it's fun. Okay, it's fun. I have been doing some investigative reporting here at Clemson, and they have two mascot. A big tiger that looked like a freak and then a little also freaky tiger called Little Cub. I asked the big tiger, I never learned his name, I said, What's your relationship with Little Cub? Is he your brother? No. Are you his dad? No. Are you dating? No. Are you friends? No. I said, Was he your nephew? He said, Yes, that's my nephew. I said, Okay, where are Little Cubs parents? He said he didn't know. Do you watch the Dan Levitard show with Stugats?

Do I watch the what?

There we go. No. I have not. Well, you have now. Yeah, because I'm on it. Give me a beer and I'll watch it. Dan, no one watches your show in South Carolina.

Nobody watched your show, but.

I will now. Do we know who Dan.

Levitard is? I don't have a microphone.

I don't know. Who knows Dan? Who really.

Knows Dan? He loves Stu Gots.

You love Stu Gots? How about that?

Stu Gots is what I call my brother. Back to.

You, Bob. When I said that this was presented by God's name, I'm just like, I'm already messing up again. Oh, no, it's happening again. Now, when I said that this game was presented by God's Name, Image, and Likeness and Liquid. I had other stuff that I was supposed to read there. Let me tell you that this was presented by LiquidIvy. Rehydrate like an athlete on game day and wake up refreshed tomorrow. Get 20 % off. Oh, my God. That's a great deal. Of anything at LiquidIV. Com with the promo code Lucy. Not promo code Dan, not promo code stew, promo code Lucy. And that's a phenomenal deal. Do I get commission?

Very professionally done there at the end, just squeezing in the sponsor. Those mascot were creepy. Clemson won too much to have those small headed mascot. They have to be a little more authentic.

Than that. And so won too much to be storming the field after every.

Goddamn game. I hate that tradition so much. I really hate that tradition. They all ran onto the field and then they were like, All right, it was like a minute. And you're like, Okay, I guess you're going to turn around now. We're just done.

It's like chopping state. What are we doing?

It's so annoying. They were a big favorite against North Carolina. And I would ask you, how do you feel after spending the week there with what I imagine the weekend? The median breadth has to be chips and beer, right? The median breadth of all these people who are talking in your face.

Yeah, this was a very drunk crowd, a very fun crowd. Also, lots of Miller Light there. That was the biggest Miller Light tailgate we've been to. So we love Clemson. They are really passionate fan base. It was really fun to be in what's the closest thing to an SCC environment outside of the SCC because they keep denying our credentials.

Did you bring your own guts as a saying? Because that would get annoying after many years.

No, there are so many good dabbo sayings that I was like, We had Tyler from Spartenberg a few weeks ago. We have God's name, image, and likeness. There are so many dabbo moments that I was like, These people aren't... They're not appreciating dabbo for everything.

He brings. Did you cry?

I got close. In the fourth quarter, I started to tear up. I didn't cry. I thought I was going to cry at the beginning of the game, but the pledge of Allegian threw me off so much that I was just confused the whole time. I was like, Did everyone just do the pledge for 15 minutes? I was out of it.

So weird. It was so weird.

But it.

Would, Lib. Can you confirm that the 10-year-old that said that he was looking for you that is a fan of Stugats, that Taylor told Stugats, and Stugats asked Taylor to book him on the show?

I can confirm that that.

Happened, yes. I did. I can confirm it as well. I asked him to make picks on God bless football.

Why do you keep crying? Why do you keep tearing up?

Because a lot of reasons. One, I love college football and those are super special environments. This is like my dream job is to get to go to college football games, and I'm grateful, and I'm just an emotional person. You're a woman. I don't think we should shame people crying or being a woman.

You're a woman.