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Welcome to The Big Suie.

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Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show?

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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.

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In fact.

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The only difference.

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Seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

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I've done it.

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And.

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Now here's The marching Man to Nowhere, Fatface, and The Habitual Liar.

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Stugatz, I don't believe that you really can draw up a better scripted ending than bodies crashing into each other at violent speeds. Everyone's injured. We're three-fourths of the way through the football season. Nobody's healthy. Everybody's physically broken. They're all trying to get to the stage where the four stages in the minor leagues of football, the four stages that there are to be the better team. Everybody who is watching what was happening this weekend prefers, I feel like, the argument to everything that happened Sunday, everything that happened, that the argument is better, that what we want at the end of the broken bodies is committees and arguments and let's say, My team was better, even though all these bodies just broke and FSU is season. Hey, we're not going to reward them, even though they did the hardest possible thing. Two teams outside the conference in the SEC, they beat Florida. Are you kidding me that that team goes undefeated and you keep out a team with history? Because it's not as big a market. Because you can make the argument. The thing that's great about the drape is you can just say, Well, their quarterbacks hurt.

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They're not the best. But man, this is supposed to be about merit. It's not supposed to be about.

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Made for television. No, it's about the best four teams in the country according to this committee.

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Two quarterbacks for FSU got ground to hamburger, two of them.

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Right. You don't want the playoff to expand because you want the regular season to matter. Yes. Well, the regular season doesn't really seem to matter much to Florida State. It doesn't because they did everything. This will be the first time. Think about all the changes to the postseason that we have incurred over the last 20 years. Because why? Miami got screwed in 2000? Okay, what's the next most memorable thing? You had an undefeated Auburn team in 2004 that did not have an opportunity to play for a national title. We changed everything to make sure that a power five undefeated conference champion has the opportunity to play for a national title. In the final year of the four-team playoff format, you have an undefeated power five that's done everything from a scheduling.

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Perspective that you want to do. With 200 quarterbacks.

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That's fine. But you have an undefeated power five team not having the opportunityto pay to play for a national title. That seems bogus.

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I think the criteria is not you have to be an undefeated power five champion in the SCC or in a league that the committee respects that season. I think it has tolike what has changed? And maybe it hasn't even changed, maybe we just haven't had to experience it to this degree before, is you have to be an undefeated, power five champion, and your quarterback can't have a season ending injury that late in the season. I think that was my biggest takeaway. That was their argument. I disagree because I think as much as their offense was difficult to watch the last two weeks, their backup would have been back for the playoff game because he was out with a concussion during the ACC Championship, and their defense won them those two games. Florida State's defense played incredibly the last two weeks, and that didn't matter to the committee because the committee just saw a undefeated Florida State team whose makeup, their DNA of their team changed to the committee when Jordan Travis got hurt. I wonder if the situation changes if we're watching Washington win the Pac-12, but Michael Pennix gets a season ending injury two weeks.

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I wonder if the Pac-12 misses out, even though they had a spectacular season with tons of competitive game. So I don't know if this is an ACC problem or if this is just them saying.

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We.

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Value the SCC above everything else. We are not going to leave any SCC teams out. We're not going to have an SEC-less football playoff. And also your.

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Quarterback at hurt. Jess, to me, the main difference is Alabama got the path that they've seemingly got in a ton of these football playoff years where they have one loss, maybe two, but they've never had all the other power five conferences do their job. Washington did their job. By the way, for everyone arguing, Well, they'd be a huge underdog in the playoff against so and so. Washington just pulled off a straight up upset as a nine and a half point dog. They've never had the other conferences do what they need to do before. But Dan, we haven't seen Louisville look like that all six long. It's a top.

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20 offense. I hear a lot of people saying the ACC is not any good, and I'm like, You were not watching Louisville's offense all year. They were. Correct. But I came in one day and told Mike one of their backup running backs. That's a pro. They've got a pro in their backfield. Louisville, nobody did that. Fsu's defense is good. I didn't expect them to do it, and they did it with their third-string quarterback. Now you can make the argument if you want to make sports about just the arguments that they are a fraud. But I can make the argument they might be Cardale Jones and Ohio State because they've got athletes that can run with these other athletes at Texas and Alabama. The team I saw from FSU from the beginning of the season when we were talking about this stuff was like, Hey, that team's got as many athletes as Texas has the bigger receivers than Miami. That team's more athletic than most of the teams they're playing against.

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Cardell Jones did not look scared when he was out there. These look like little kids. They look like they're 18 years old. Cardell Jones did not.

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Look like that. I'll swing it over to Jess, Cardell Jones and Ohio State put up 55 points in their conference championship game. However, they didn't play a good team because that side of the conference has always dominated the other.

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Side, Jess. Right. I think the committee wanted to see what Florida State could do the two weeks on offense without Jordan Travis. And they clearly weren't impressed. And just to be clear, I do not agree with their decision. I am only trying to justify it to explain to people why I think they came to this conclusion. I think that it's pretty unconscionable to leave Florida State out of the playoff in this situation. I truly feel terrible for the Florida State players. I feel terrible for Jordan Travis. His tweet, which, oh, my God. He clearly- Can't tell the fan. -he...

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Yeah, okay, well- Put.

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That tweet- Yeah, let's throw up the tweet. Put the tweet up on the screen. I agree with everything that Jess says, and I can also admit that if I could pick any fan base for this to happen, too, this is just about the funniest one. But yeah, here's Jordan and Travis's tweet, Devastated, heartbroken, in so much disbelief right now. I wish my leg broke earlier in the season.

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That's just such a great sentence. It's just an.

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Insane thing to say. It's just crazy. But I think what we watched on Saturday was Alabama upset a team with a 29-game win streak Georgia, the number one team in the country. And the committee said, We are not going to punish them for losing earlier in the season against Texas because they rate Texas very highly. Texas is one of the four teams in the playoff. So we're going to put Alabama in just because they have now the best win of the season over Georgia. And I don't think that in any other year that's bad logic. I think that just because this year you had multiple undefeated teams, this is how it shook out, where they had to make a tough choice finally. And I think if they're going to leave out an undefeated power champion, it should be the one that was cheating for the last.

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Three years. Well, there's that. We haven't even gotten to that, which makes this so great for television.

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What happened to Chris's thoughts?

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We'll get to them in just a second. Poor Chris got boxed out. Everyone's got a lot to say. How about Tony? Tony hasn't been able to get in at all because poor Tony wants to talk about how bananas it was, but has no shots because everyone's got.

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Too many takes. Tony is so backed up with takes that his nose just started bleeding.

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Chris also just admitted he didn't watch Louisville play this season, which I feel like disqualifies him from the conversation.

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Tony's waiting, dying to talk Will Leavis. Oh, God. Recovering to Fumble.

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Oh, boy.

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Don Levittard.

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We got a Freeney hard away.

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Freeney? Who is a Freeney Hardaway?

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I was trying to read fast. Ud was on the team.

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Luke Jackson, Bobby Jones, The Matrix.

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Sean.

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Marion, Stugats.

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Zoh, Shaqs.

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Smush.

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Parker, Chris Quinn.

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Wait a minute.

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Don Wade. Wait a minute. Jason Williams, they're all right?

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I mean, stacked roster. This is.

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The Dan.

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Levator show with the Stugats.

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Tony has indeed developed a nosebleed. He's got NFL takes that he wants to get coming out of his nose. We can't get to them, though. Stugats, do you know how rare it is to be in December in professional football? The sport gets so crazy that all of us are watching Philadelphia and San Francisco, and all of us are having the same reaction. Even though it's just one game like, Oh, my God. And Francisco is like, they're so fast and so big and nobody wants to play against Trent Williams. Tony's got a lot of professional football takes, but we're in the rare, rare space, and it's wonderful where college football is king because the argument is king today. The argument is bigger than the action. And the action has this. In the Saints game yesterday, I saw a guy on the sideline, just leg broken in half, clearly broken in half. Guy just gets side-swiped. He's just like a sideline person.

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Like a.

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Chains guy? Behind the chains guy. Like a backup chains guy. It's so bad out there, professional football. This is slaughter that we're trying to get to the last four teams in a course.

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Hell of a game, though.

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Yes, all of them. We got to get to Alabama, Georgia. We got to talk about the actual games. But the carnage that it takes just for us to get to the argument, which is all we want to have today and yell at each other about, This is why this team is better than that team. But if it's a made-for-television-spectacle, does it matter? We can argue about it all you want. It's great commerce, but who cares who the four teams are? They're going to put four great teams on television that a lot of people care about, get a bunch of fan bases, get a bunch of money, and Coach Prime will try and buy better players next year than your players because he's Coach Prime and he's as.

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Charismatic as that. And it's Portal Day.

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You keep saying made for television like it shouldn't be that way. I agree. Yes. Give me games that I want to watch. Do you, Dan? I ask you, you keep saying made for telling. Do you want.

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To see FSU? No, but Chris, it's supposed to be merit-based, that's sports.

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No, but Dan, all the.

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People- What has just happened to FSU, Stagat, is patently unfair. It's just unfair for what it is that we play sports for. You can't look at what happened to FSU and say, You didn't set up the rules that way. You just jerry-rigged the system so that that team can't.

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Get in. Life is unfair, okay? The kids, you know what? It's a good growing lesson. Okay? Life is unfair.

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They'll all be.

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Better because of it. All right. I mean, perfection doesn't mean as much as it used to mean. That's what the committee is telling you, and I'm okay with that. Dan, would you answer Chris' question? Because all the people railing against Florida State and not making it in a month from now, when they hope everyone forgets them railing about Florida State not getting in, they're going to be like, Oh, my God. We've got Michigan and Alabama and the Rose Bowl for the right to go to the championship game. This is awesome because it's a better matchup.

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I mean, Michigan's team's reaction to Alabama being named the fourth team, I think, was very telling of who they hoped they were going to get. But I do think that there is an interesting thing happening here, which is that historically with the playoff, they've put the teams that have earned it in, even if maybe the fifth team that was left out did look like they were the better team. That's what they've done. And then they changed it this year. And so I think it's the last year, the 14th playoff. So I don't think this will happen again. Such a great ending, though.

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I don't think it.

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Can happen again.

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Such a great ending, though. But isn't it great punctuation?

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It's great because they finally had to make a hard decision, I think. This one wasn't as easy as ones where they could just say, Well, this team was undefeated. This team lost to Purdue by 50 points or whatever, so they're out. And that's what they've been able to do. And so I just think that it's really funny that in the final year of this, this is what's happening. But if you're a casual college football fan who is just going to tune in on January first and watch the playoff and you're not in the minuteia of the argument like, Yeah, Michigan and Alabama, you're.

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Probably pretty excited for it. Jessica, this is why Stugats wins again with Alabama. Who doesn't want Alabama in the playoff? Nick Saban doesn't even have to make the argument on behalf of Alabama. But I'd be pissed off if I was Georgia, Stugato. Come on. That's a dynasty. You don't win 29 straight games in that conference?

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I understand that. You don't get rewarded because you did it the last two seasons. It's all about this season. This season, the best team they played before Alabama was Missouri, Dan. But they lost by three. But they lost by three.

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Missouri is good.

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Missouri is damn good. Missouri would be in a.

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12-team field. And lose in the first round. That's the reason we don't.

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Need a 12-team. But they get the opportunity to lose, and Florida State will not get that opportunity.

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Dan, I'm not saying they're not good. I'm saying what would you rather see? Would you rather see Millrow taking on Michigan, or would you rather the third-string quarterback from F.

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S. U? My point is this, Stugat. This is why and how, right in front of your eyes, that college football, Minor League football becomes professional football. Because when it becomes 12 teams, Missouri is going to beat one of these teams in one of those games. And that's how they're going to become an even bigger power. And college football is going to become even bigger and bigger, and everyone's going to be in the money game. And that's the game Deion Sanders is trying to get into. Deion just wants to be close to those top 12 because that's where the real money is. The television money has contaminated the sport. It's a free for all. That committee can be bought what's best for television.

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If you're going to look at television ruining the sport, first of all, I think the 14th playoff was always a bad idea. And most people that really follow and care about the sport, it doesn't make sense. You have five power conferences in a 14th playoff. It just has never made sense. And now they're skipping straight past six, which maybe you'd get your automatic bids for the power five, although the pack 12 is gone, plus the at large. No, we're just going straight to 12. None of that has ever made sense. And also, it should be noted the ACC voted against expanding this year because there was all this conference reliance and stuff happening in the SCC. But I think if you are mad at the networks ruining college football, I don't think the 14th playoff is stupid and bad, and it was always a bad idea. But the entire makeup of the conferences and what we've seen in conference realignment and the disillusionment of rivalry games and the taxing travel schedules that players are going to have next year, all of these other things I think are a much more existential crisis and things that are going to legitimately change what we watch in the regular season more so than the decision to leave Florida State out of.

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This playoff. There's always going to be complaints with all this stuff, and I don't think that people are going to work up the same emotion for number 12 and number 13. Just wait. Yeah, that's true. Speaking true, and where you mentioned that Sugars always gets to win is because he's not a huge observer of college football. His guiding light has always been do it against Bama. For 20 years, remarkably, that's been fine. But here's a tweet from Benjamin Woke that I want to share. Florida State isn't that great. Pulled away from a 6 and 6 group of five team late, needed a prayer to beat a six and 6 rival, a 3-point win versus a four and eight conference fell, lost by 10 at home. Oh, wait, this is from my Alabama file. Because Alabama, let's just rewind one week. They needed a miracle to be in this situation. They got it. Georgia lost the one game they couldn't afford to lose, which is why they're out. I would argue Alabama lost the one game they couldn't afford to lose. Double digits at home against Texas. They couldn't afford to lose it because for once, the rest of the Power Fives did their job.

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You guys want drama? This is what you get with drama, okay? What you do is you put Alabama at three, you put Georgia at three, and we absolutely rematched the entire thing once over again for all the Marbles, all secondary.

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I thought the bloody nose was a bit, and I can see blood.

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No, it's bleeding. He's got so many takes. Again, Will Levis' best play yesterday was recovering to his own fun.

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He looked great yesterday. Florida State didn't win all of their easy games handily. I saw them struggle against Boston in college. I saw them struggle against Clemson in overtime. I saw them struggle against Miami. I do understand the argument that Alabama needed a miracle against Auburn to even be in the position that they're in now. But Florida State wasn't also they weren't blowing out teams all.

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Season either. And I saw Texas almost lose at home, and they didn't because of a missed extra point to Kansas State. And I've seen Washington play those F. S. U. Games that you're highlighting for the better part of two months now. That happens in every college football season. Which is why.

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- That team is so full. Correct. That happened to Bamma, and it happened to Florida State. I think it's like.

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I can't.

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Say one's worse.

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Than the other. But all that is why being undefeated mattered so much because you know you have to navigate that, and some teams don't survive it. Some teams lose those games. Florida State found a way to not lose those games.

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Can I just say the thing that everybody is afraid to say right now? Say it, finally. I see both sides to this argument. What the College football committee has to do is really hard. I appreciate their effort. Thank you for your service. I totally see.

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Both sides. I think if you want to blame someone, blame Bryan Kelly. Lsu could have been better this year and Florida States won against the first one. Now that I can get behind. It would have looked a lot better if L. S. U. Was able to pull it off against one.

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Of their SCC. It's the thing. It's the weirdest thing to me. It's like Florida State is being penalized for actually winning that game against L. S. U. Because the College Football Committee all year has been dying to rank L. S. U. High, but can't because that tricky little loss that they had when they were the five seed. They're not in the the playoff conversation because they lost that game to Florida State.

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They lost three games, Mike. It's just different. The way the committee sees it, Alabama's loss to Texas is better than Florida States win against L. S. U. Because Texas is the second best team in the country. It doesn't make a lot of sense, but that's how they view it. And I think it all comes down to Jordan Travis's injury. I think that's actually, that was it for that. They watched Florida State struggle the last two weeks offensively without him, and they decided, We want a quarterback like Jaylen Millrow. We know he's going to play in the playoff. We would rather see that against Michigan. Michigan hasn't played against a quarterback that good all season. I want to see that, too. That was their calculation.

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Now we know that this has been in their bylaws the entire time. It's the first time they've decided to enforce this rule, where it's like they can take into account big injuries. I sincerely hope that alters how people go about managing their game. Sorry, we're up by 15 in this fourth quarter. Let's go ahead and bench our quarterback because he might get hurt and that might affect our standing in the college football playoff. It's a tough break. They did what they had to do. They're the first team since Auburn that goes undefeated in a regular season that doesn't have an opportunity to play for a national title. That should mean something going undefeated inside the ACC, which by the way, was six and four against the SCC this year. I've heard Paul Feinbaum say, Well, you can't count Wake Forest against Vanderbilt. That shouldn't have any sway in the national title. He's right. Bullshit. Bullshit. We're just cherry-picking what our arguments are because the whole thing about the SCC is the weekly, weekend, and week-out grind.

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Mike, F. S. U, the part about this that is most inherently unfair. This is simple. It's why we can argue about it so well so often and so long, Stugat. Sports are supposed to be if we're doing random measurements of everything, it's all subjective, but at the end, there's a champion. It's supposed to be a measurement of merit. It's not, but it's supposed to be. If you beat all the teams in your conference, one of the power conference, and you scheduled Florida and LSU outside of the conference-.

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But you're down to your third-stream quarterback, dad, and that.

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Should be factored in. No, but I'm just saying we can argue back and forth on all of this. The fairness thing, though, to say is that FSU in schedule and everything else did absolutely everything it had to do. It's unfair that they're not in.

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I didn't say beat LSU. I said beat Alabama. They beat LSU. But two.

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Teams, they scheduled Florida.

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And L. S. -yeah, but Texas scheduled Alabama, and they beat them on.

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The road. We're taking our eye off the ball here. Michigan scheduled ECU, UNLV, Bowling Green. They beat Penn State. Penn State. Penn State. And Ohio State. And that's where we're going to be right now. They had to play Iowa. The Big Ten West has never won in a Big Ten Championship game against the Big Ten East. Michigan has skated in all of this, and the entire time they had a guy cheating at other games and coming back and giving them all the signals and Harbo is buying hamburgers and it doesn't even matter. They're in and no one's even arguing about it.

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Don Libertard.

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You are very comfortable talking about how you met your wife, how much you love her, how important she is to you. That's the reason that I asked the question. I've always admired that about you that you have no problems whatsoever professing your love.

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Well, the thing is.

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I have a new wife now.

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Me and.

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Bianca.

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Didn't make it, so.

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I moved on. We moved on. It was for the better for.

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Both of us. Still guts. Things just got a little awkward there. Let me be the first on this show to congratulate you on the new wife, Vince. Congratulations on feeling whole, feeling complete. Let's talk tailgating. Yeah.

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Don't feel awkward, buddy.

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I don't. I mean, Dan does. It's much too late for that, Vince.

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I appreciate you soothing me in this regard, but I already feel terribly awkward. Then my teammate comes to my defense with not a question. Congratulations. But just a healthy congratulations and the further pointing out of that awkwardness because he's always good for me in those spots. I'm also thinking of divorce, Vince, after many, many years, 18 years with a partner who does things like that to you. This is.

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The Dan Levator Show with the Stugats. We're supposed to do a four-hour show. I'm embarrassed to admit that I think Chris nailed it right on the head. You're perfect, but I can't stretch that out for four hours, Chris. I see both sides. I don't know. It's hard. Two teams were going to be pretty pissed off just because, damn, more people went undefeated this year. That sucks. How dare you, Washington, win that game? If Oregon won it, we could have jerry-rigged it some more.

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That stinks. I just want to laugh at FSU fans, really.

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One of the problems is the committee put FSU in, and so they said winning your conference championship removes you from the conversation, which.

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Is crazy. If this was the plan, why did they put FSU at four.

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Last week? I know, crazy.

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It's a great question. In all seriousness about Michigan, how is Michigan the best team in the country over Washington? Washington has more wins over ranked opponents. They beat Oregon twice. Who the committee was saying all year was the sixth or fifth best team in the country? I know Michigan has the win over Ohio State, sure. But Washington, by the committee's own metrics, should be higher. They should have been able to choose where they were playing in the semifinal. And instead, they're going to get the Sugar Bowl against Texas, which is obviously going to be more of a Texas crowd, you would think, than the Rose Bowl, which is now where Michigan and Alabama are.

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Going to play. But Michigan got the more difficult game, I feellike.

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Wait a minute. That's the hardball punishment right there. The hardball.

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Punishment on.

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Hardball is you get Alabama instead of FSU.

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That's the punishment. I thought you meant Iowa.

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But Oregon. Jessica. Jessica, it's moving very fast for Stugat. He's a casual college football fan. What do you mean? I was right. It's just all about Alabama.

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How are you making Alabama better than Texas? I am. But Texas did.

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It against Alabama. That was early in the season, Mike. Different team, Alabama. Different team, different quarterback. I mean, that quarterback has been great. Not good. He has been great since about.

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Week three. Stugarts, Millro, they put two spies on him in Saturday's game and stopped him in the second half. He was like, those are...

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I mean, run.

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Did you watch?

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Yeah, he's in the playoff.

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Okay, I think that settles it.

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I love Millro. The most disgraceful thing here is how cutthroat all this is and kicks Georgia to the curb. That was a great champion. Oh, my God, what you guys did winning the business of this thing where you knocked off Sabin. And now he's a lovable underdog that Chris Cody is rooting for last week because he rooted for exactly this scenario, where come in and just drink a bourbon and just siddle up next to his friend. I want to see Alabama in January because that's what the holidays are about.

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But here's Georgia's nonconference, UT, Martin, Ball State, and UAB. So I think they end up getting punished here by not playing maybe an ACC school, maybe just any other nonconference school that's in the conversation late in the season, too. I think they did a little bit of what Michigan did, which is like, they're not going to really play anyone hard in the first part of the season. Which, by the way, the argument for playing a good nonconference in week one or week zero? Out the door. Don't do it. I don't know why anyone... This fit Florida State in the ass. They won the game and it didn't even matter.

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Well, Texas beat- They won a bigger game. -alabama lost the game and it.

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Didn't matter. But why would Alabama agree to play that game again? That's why they never do this, right?

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I'm changing my mind with every sentence.

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You guys all say.

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That's the beauty.

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Of it. I am just lying back and forth. I'm like, Yeah, Jess is right. It's a good point. Oh, wait.

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Stugatza is right, dude against Bamma. But now Texas is coming to the SCC, so that becomes the super conference where they're playing all the Minor League professional games. I want to get back to what you were saying, though, Jessica, and ask an honest question. If this is a merit-based thing meant to crown a champion, I'm legitimately confused about how much credit I'm supposed to give to Harbov if he does win this thing. He hasn't been there for the only game that they won. He was banned from the stadium for cheating.

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I've been suspended for.

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Half the season. He missed the first parts of the season, the.

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Last parts of the season. Are you saying in your personal record book, he might not get a ring?

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I'm legitimately asking.

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I'm going to use it if.

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You're not. I'm legitimately asking all of America, How much credit do we give Jim Harball if they win a championship and he coached three of the games and just gave a bunch of press conferences?

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It does get buried in all this how awkward Jim Harball was after that game. That looked like a guilty guy. He did the first thing he said, Bet. Then he was just trying to bring all his guys up. I don't know, if he was completely innocent, he would have acted differently. I got the vibes of this guy knows he's guilty, so he's just like, I'm going to smile the shit out of this. I'm just going to be super happy.

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Beth.

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Come on, you talk.

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You're going to have to google what that means. Yeah, it was a weird vibe he.

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Gave off. I think Chris and I had the right measurement for this, the way they should do it. Because when Michigan learned that they were playing Alabama, nothing. But if you told them they were playing Florida State, that room would have been cheering.

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Stugach, you have to watch some of this. Everyone enjoyed Michigan's reaction to the horror, like the horror of you learn, Hooray, we're the best team. Oh, no, would save me. We're here to explore place Michigan. Number five, heartbroken. Who's number four? That's it. Did a woman gets stepped on there. It sounded like somebody was squashed to death.

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You hear- Sounds like they watched a car accident.

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-that getsp, I mean.

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No, there's like two seconds of genuine reaction, and then you realize that they're realizing, Oh, wait, this is going to be videotape. Then you get the fake like, All right, yeah, we want them. The totally insincere, yeah, bring on Bama. It's like, No, you don't mean that.

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Now imagine it's Florida State.

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The World Cup.

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Celebration video. There is a dude that hides himself in his hoodie upon hearing Alabama. He just puts his hoodie over his face like, No.

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Tony, I have watched you squirm in that corner. I felt bad for you for the last 90 minutes or so because- The nose? Well, it's not just the nose. It's that he is dying to talk about big football. Sunday. He wants Sundays. Everyone's chattering around here about Saturdays, and he wants to do Sundays. But we're going to get back to Saturday. So, Tony, I will give you one muffled take through a nose that is bleeding. A nose that is bleeding because you can't get all the takes out. I will give you room for one take here from Sunday football.

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Sunday football. He taught me this, Dan. All of a sudden, the MVP market for the NFL has swapped. We're now Brock Purdy's 3:1 favorite to win the MVP after that win in Philly. I'm intrigued.

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I wish you could fade odds right there. I wish I could bet that he isn't going to win MVP. If the odds are so good, I don't know. Give me odds on I bet.

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He won't. You can by betting other folks.

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To bet every other person? J. L. E. H. Is plus 350. But I want just one bet, no, he won't.

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I'm feeling damn good about my Brock Purdy MVP ticket.

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Oh, Mike Ryan was- Got.

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It at a plus 1,500.

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Mike Ryan, for whatever stuff Mike Ryan is reading in order to find the money in the crevices of gambling advantages, Mike Ryan said, San Francisco is going to score a ton of points and San Francisco is going to cover and I'm going to put that's going to be a big bet for me because I know how good San Francisco is when healthy. Trent Williams is a beast when he's out there. Debo Samuel's changed everything for them. He's their Tyreke Hill.

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Well, Purdy is the MVP, but Trent Williams is out there. I feel.

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Like if you're getting out in front of a Brock Purdy MVP, you have a lot of tickets out there.

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I have him and Toa. I have him and Toa, yeah. More tickets, I feel like. Because I think that's where the value is. I also got a head on the Dolphins to have the best record in the NFL. I'm feeling real good about that.

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By the way. We hear about the ones.

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You feel good about. Jordan Love. Jordan Love, low key figuring it out.

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Really good.

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Yeah, I'm impressed with them. But for me, over the last few years, you know how Sugats is with nick Saban in Alabama. That's how I am with Cal Shane and the 49ers. I'm worried because they're a little healthy right now. They usually get healthy towards the end of the year. But I think it jumps out to anybody. This team has a physical advantage. They have a tactical one, and they have the horses to actually carry out what has proven over a third of the NFL history is a cheat code for a ground game. Now they have Christian McAfrey at the center of it. They have a cheap quarterback that is making plays. He's making the throws when they do turn to him. They have a guy like Debo Samuel who's impossible to bring down at his size. On top of that, he's fast as hell and physical. This team is more physical and tougher than everybody else. They travel well because defense travels, run game travels. They are in my mind and have been for the last two years, and they just got hurt last year, the best team in the League.

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The other thing too, as an Eagles, Evangelists, and a Jaylen, Hertz, Evangelists, it's tough to see because I had a couple of Unis on the Eagles. But the more important thing is San Francisco drives 75, 77, 85, 90, all consecutive drives that all score touchdowns. When you're doing it at the link against a defensive line like that that showed they can stop Miami, who's got a great offense.

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They can stop anybody. It's AD. Fletcher Cox has played 180 games for them, and they got someone else on the line who's played 189 of them.

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Hassan Redik is incredible off the edge, and it didn't matter. They would just get yard.

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After yard after yard. Them getting gashed is alarming to see it done that way. They're the ones with Lane Johnson. Man, do you know how fascinating I was just watching- It was a turn style, by the way. -and Wayne Johnson playing against Bosa?

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Yeah, did you see that video? It was like two kaiju going together.

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That's right. I told you a few weeks ago that I did nothing but watch Trident Williams because the guys got on documentary on Prime, Silverback. Everyone in that league fears him. Why? There's a dude who ran away from him, turned his back and ran away because everyone's afraid of him. He comes out of that tunnel with the Beatbox and everybody else. Nailed it. You know that they're tougher than everybody else, and they've got a running back that leaves the league in touchdown.

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I think it's fairly consensus that the best three teams in the NFC are Dallas, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. I guess you can make an argument for Detroit out there, but I think they're on the fringes of that conversation. San Francisco has kicked Dallas and Philly's ass.

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They have. You're right. Did you hear what Mike said, though? Did you hear what he said? A team is getting healthy at the wrong time.

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He's right. They usually start doing this because they got banged up and they lost, what was it? Three straight. They were writing columns that, Oh, Purdy isn't the guy. Then they get healthy and then you see exactly what this team can do. For me, it's the only thing that can stand in.

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Their way. Who made Philly's schedule? I mean, it's brutal. You have to factor that in, don't you?

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Yeah, it's a tough one.

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I suppose those Stugats, but they were.

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Saying- They played Kansas City and Buffalo and now they play Dallas after this. But now.

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They were saying they have to come in to the link, right? That's what was the- To the link, yes.

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That's what the link. That's what the San Redik was.

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Saying, right? And so San Francisco, it's not just that they were tougher. Let's not lose sight of what just happened. The Philadelphia Eagles, Super Bowl, One loss, Kelsey is a superstar. They all want that fame. Tyree Kale, they all want what Jason Kelsey has now. Famous because they've been at the top of the sport. San Francisco has been the best team in the sport for three years. They went into Philadelphia last year and couldn't play a quarterback because the sport, because football happened to them, and McAfrey is a quarterback because they don't know what to do. Philadelphia started talking shit about that from there. And Trent Williams goes in yesterday. And did you see how much fighting there was in that game? Because Philadelphia is like, No, we're as tough as you. And San Francisco is like, No, you're not. Not when we've got Trent and not when we've got Debo. You want to play football? We'll beat you there. You want to fight? We'll hit you security, man. We'll get ejected from the game for hitting your security guy on the sidelines because it's not football anymore. You want to fight? Let's fight. Let's do it that way.

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We got Trent. We got Debo. What are you going to do? Give up four straight drives right down the field. When the place is buzzing and in the first quarter, we can't get a first down. Then what do we do? We kick Jason, Kelsey's ass up and down the field.

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It felt.

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Like football, Dana.

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Oh, my God. It felt like football.

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I know I was right. Fred Warner is a menace.

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We haven't talked about Big Dom yet.

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Are you kidding me? San Francisco went into Philadelphia and they told Ciriani, that caveman, we want to fight.

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Big Dom versus Trent Williams.

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We'll hit your security guard in the face.

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Do it in the playoff.