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Get ready for an outstanding entertainment program, The Jimmy Dorje Show.

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Hey, hello, this is Jimmy.

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Who's this? This is Governor Andrew Cuomo. He oh, hello, Governor. How are you? I'm fine.

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I wanted to talk to you and your listeners and address this whole elephant in the room, these accusations against me of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior. OK, first of all, let me reiterate my apology. I am truly sorry if my words or actions made anyone feel uncomfortable.

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That was never my intention. I joke around with people. My staff referred to people that joke around levity with jokes like, hey, have you ever dated an older man who you dated? Older man, classic jokes, but says that's one classic classic joke.

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Classic. This is glad you're doing. Yes. Jokes, just jokes.

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Now, let me be crystal clear, I, I respect women. Yeah. Who doesn't? I mean, look at who I love women. I always have. I wish to be perpetually surrounded by women. So it pains me to learn that some women have been I might be flawed.

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But Jimmy, all of this has been misconstrued. Misconstrued.

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Miss Constrained, I, I never sexually harassed anyone, I never put forth a genuine sexual advance.

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Well, what about the young lady who claimed at a wedding you touched her bare back and then grabbed the sides of her head and asked her to kiss you? Yes, I asked. It's called consent. Is that what we're getting in trouble for now, asking permission like we're supposed to? You should have seen the shit I was trying to pull this up.

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You know, I. I think grabbing the size of her head while you asked is the problem probably.

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Oh, OK. All right, well, let's get down to brass tacks here. I think the underlying issue here is that I am Italian American. We are a passionate, expressive people, the person we hug and kiss. This is how we greet people.

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Now, I got it. I see. It's a fraction, but it is also respect for your fellow human being. It is recognizing another's humanity, male or female. You grab them, hug them, kiss them, grab their shoulders, shrug their shoulders, look them up and down and say, I must put schmiel look at those fuckin breasts.

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Emotional people emotional. So, Governor, I know I know plenty of Italian Americans and none of them treat other people like how you're describing.

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Well, OK, then there are people who were probably north from the northern part of Italy, you got to get far down into the boat to get to the real good gravy, if you know what I mean by God.

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So if we're really being honest here, there is an element of so we're really being honest here.

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There is an element of don't do it and try Italian discrimination or bias that please don't do this.

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Why and why not?

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It's the obvious play here to try and make yourself the victim.

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Growing up, a poor Italian boy in New York City, I was called every slur in the book Guiney de Gaulois, Greaseball Dogbone, Borbon, Nordal Snapper. I came up with those last few myself. That's how low my self-esteem was from all that bullying.

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Well, by God.

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But as I grew up, I learned to be proud of my Italian heritage and identity. Did you know that an Italian invented the telephone?

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What does that have to do with you hitting, grabbing women? Ring, ring, I go, okay, who's there 3000 years of history, art and culture at your service?

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Look, we're going to get through this. Obviously, I need to change my behavior. Times have changed. Every woman under 40 acts like she's on fucking little house on the Prairie. Now, I don't get it, but that's just how it is. There's nothing you can do about it. But I'm not resigning. Oh, really?

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Why not? Because I'm still a fucking bull. I'll do this little dance if I have to, I'm smart, but I'm not going to be pushed too far here. Kirsten Gillibrand calls on me to resign up your ass.

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She got Al Franken to resign. Yeah, exactly. Exactly my point at 20, Al Franken balls could fit inside one of my balls.

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I can still got you hear me loud and clear, pal.

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All right. Well, I got to go. I have to gazed wistfully at a large marble statue of a nude woman that's in my office.

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Let's be honest. The fact that we personify the concept of liberty as a female goddess has allowed us to get away with a lot of wild decorating choices.

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Thanks for calling, Governor.

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We're getting married in August, so she can't afford this. Oh. He has his of the media speeds and jumps the meeting somewhere down the chimney to show.

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Joe Biden dropped their attendance nomination amid bipartisan opposition. Wow, first of all, if you look at that, she she looks like someone just broke the news to her and she's already plotting revenge. That's what it looks like. Shit. Does she have that look at her face like she's getting ready to plot revenge? So this has got to be tough for the justice Democrats because they were pushing hard for her.

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Remember what Joe Manchin said he was going to vote against Neera Tanden and then the head of the Justice Democrats. This right here, she went on and watch what she said. Yeah.

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And I mean, there's there's a public record of those tweets. But the reality is, I think that Joe Manchin is the one being divisive right now. We are in the middle of a public pandemic. Joe Biden was just elected by a huge mandate for the American people. We have to deliver as Democrats and we need people in positions.

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So we have to deliver, as you hear, because she's a justice Democrat, which I guess we all know now, just means you're just a Democrat.

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And so she's talk. We have to have Neera Tanden get approved to be the OMB director because we're Democrats. We're all together on this. That's awesome.

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Here we go. Power who are ready and prepared to go big in this moment and not leave anyone behind. The mentality has got to be of the Democratic Party especially, but any elected official that we have to move quickly to save as many lives as possible. And I would also point out that he had no problem voting to confirm other appointments of clearly partisan members when it was the previous Republican administration. There should be no, I think, opposition to to some, you know, folks that are being proposed by the Biden administration.

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You know, you have you know, you know, clearly already I mean, we're not ready to get the job done and they feel are the best prepared to do it.

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I mean, so that's got to be tough. It's got to be a tough Saturday over at the Justice Democrats headquarters all around, you think?

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Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm thrilled she was not confirmed. And also, I was wrong. I predicted she was going to be right.

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I did, too. I thought she would get it. I thought she I thought she was going to get it. I was pleasantly surprised, but. Oh, nice. It's nice to see Joe. Joe Manchin does puts the kibosh on their debt and not the progressives. Not the progressives. By the way, it's like it's so sad we're in a place where that's a win win win, a horrible person does something right, probably for the wrong reasons, but that's like that's the best we got.

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That's that's that's. What was your reason to smile for, like one millisecond? Well, this horrible person didn't get this day because this other horrible person did the right thing for the wrong reason that that was the millisecond smile of welcome to American politics. Well, that's how we do things over here.

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It's got to be tough day over at the Young Turks, Jack Ugur, tall progressives. If Neera Tanden is voted down, they're going to replace her with someone even more conservative. Lesser of two evils, Wembley's. But we have to have the lesser of two evils, Quimby's, according to it's never the time to fight ever for Ugur ever. It's never the time is not hilarious and name if it wasn't so long.

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Lesser of two evils. Lumbees it's too long.

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It's I don't know.

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It makes me laugh. So lesser of two evils that he'll just make up a greater evil, honest. He said if they if they lose on her, they'll abandon any one to the left of Attila the Hun. Biden has it's by. Bye bye, it turns out Attila the Hun is busy, but I hope he gets over this tough day, tough day over there as just for the record, out of the out of the names.

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And I've only heard like the main two names, the one person from the Hillary Hillary camp and then someone from the Obama administration. Neither one of them would be worse than her.

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I mean, none of them are going to be great. I mean, obviously. But but neither one of them would be worse than Neera Tanden. So if there is someone worse out there that might get the gig. To my knowledge, that name has not been floated yet.

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Just to remind you how bad Neera Tanden is as a Clinton delegate on the DNC platform committee, she voted against a 15 dollar minimum wage. She voted against Medicare for all. She voted against a ban on fracking. She voted against acknowledging Palestinian humanity.

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She voted for the TPP trade deal and she voted for military action on Iran.

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Yeah, the bars on the floor, folks, really is bomb Libya and take its oil.

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Biden budget chief pick Neera Tanden agreed with Trump. That's from the Gray Zone, so here's Jamie Harrison, he's the current DNC chair and he said we should never be shocked at the hypocrisy and misogyny of D.C. Neera Tanden is smart, gifted and most importantly, qualified. And you're a misogynist if you're against her, Rod.

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Nana, my grandma often says when one door closes, others open, she often adds, and the good Lord ain't done with you yet. Wait for your door. Well, her door came. It was Jimmy Door, and we exposed her as being a advocating for war crimes. Jamie, the course, of course, that's the DNC chair advocating for the most corrupt. Well, that's amazing. The awesome. Hey, does your grandma say does your I know that's what your grandma says, your grandma says, look, the good Lord ain't done with you yet.

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Find your door. But does your grandma also say bomb Libya and take their oil? Because because that because that's what Neera Tanden says, did you did your grandmother also say, please defend warmongers in my name? I bet your grandmother didn't say that, Jamie.

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You know, Jimmy, my my grandmother lived to be one hundred and one rest in power, and she identified politically as an FDR Democrat. And, you know, the problem is back in her day that was just called Democrat. Yeah, that's the problem. That's the problem.

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Hey, friend of the show, Ben Spielberg said Neera Tanden, he retweeted Jamie. Here is the current DNC chair. Neera Tanden is a notoriously unethical employer and bully who physically assaulted and outed staff members, busted a union, targets early career social justice advocates for retribution. Democratic praise for her is at least as hypocritical as Republican criticism. And Spielberg laying it down, that's that's well put, very well put, Biden says Neera Tanden will get another job in his administration.

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Of course, nobody likes her. I'll give a shit that's never held me back before. Wow, Neera Tanden, she we won this time, but she will be back around, you know, like her that does it. That's never held me back before. No one likes me. I've been around for 40 plus years, and I don't care if I became president. I kind of also unlikable.

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You people used to think I was unelectable until just yell at people on the campaign trail. It wasn't Trump that scared people into voting for me. It was the fear of Bernie Sanders. That vote scared people into voting for for Joe Biden. Oh, boy. Anyway, thank you again, I appreciate everyone, there's an assault happening on where the working class, an actual out assault by the ruling class, by Wall Street, the financial sector which runs our government, and it's playing out right in front of your eyes is Dylan Ratigan said, as a matter of policy, they're closing down a third of our economy and that there they are, rapacious oligarchs, which is a term started on the show.

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And now I see everybody else, which I'm glad we have that influence. So the next time you hear rapacious oligarch ding the word of the day on the Jimmy Dorje show, but that is exactly what's happening. There's an all out. So people why aren't they giving covid relief to people in need to workers and let. Why didn't they give relief to people during the 2008 mortgage crisis, because they wanted to take your assets and that's why, because they want to take your assets.

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They want to take your. What do you see, Jimmy? I have an apartment. They want to take the apartment building. They don't care if your landlord goes broke. They want to give it to the creditor.

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Sounds cynical, right? Is that sound too cynical to be true, Ron? Well, is there another reason why they wouldn't be bailing people out? No, I don't think that sounds too cynical. I think that sounds pretty accurate. I mean I mean, I do have you know, I'm still holding out hope for other things. But but I think that's a very accurate description of what really is going on here and the cruelty of our system just for fun.

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So do you think do you think Neera Tanden is going to tweet for a while?

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No, because she's going to give she just like she is going to get something else. She's going to get put. Right. But she's got to get putting in the administration.

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Yeah. Yeah. Her money and her money.

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And if she did but her ability to get corporate corporate money and funnel it into the Democratic Party is too important to the Democratic Party, to her like this. That's that's what this is. You have to celebrate equality. I mean, Nancy Pelosi says she's the best and Neera Tanden is pretty solid, added to nice. Yeah, that's what counts. Hey, renowned linguist and cognitive scientist Noam Chomsky is on the line.

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Hello. Hi, Jamie, thank you for having me on your show. You know, the world is facing catastrophic threats, the likes of which have never been experienced before at the age of 92.

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What keeps you learning, teaching and motivated during this great upheaval? Just smoking out of a beautiful pipe, the best have nothing added to it, just ice and water. Some people would like to use butane and all sorts of bullshit to extract the best sticky, but I prefer it clean. In other words, all you're getting are those beautiful, oily heads of the bird.

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Yes.

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OK, but what do you tell young people who are disillusioned with the concept of constant activism?

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I used to get a lot of bad read from a guy named Lester. He had a seven foot ball.

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What?

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In essence, it's a metaphor for why progressives must revitalize the labor movement. Where are you out with Dad now that you still have one party that's pretty strong pot?

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No. Jimmy, do you ever do you ever think about stuff? Well, I mean, yeah, of course, but. But I would imagine a great writer and thinker like yourself would do it constantly. I have written over 150 books on linguistics, history and political thought, but I never enjoyed a single minute of it. Why? Because it took away from my high time, even your book, Manufacturing Consent. No, that was totally written by weed, the book cover should have read by Noam Chomsky and we.

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No, I won't write unless I'm properly with my exotic playlist. It consists of a psychedelic collection of Turkish jazz funk from the 1970s.

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How do you prepare for a writing session? Personally, I like to jump straight to a blunt followed by a ball. Uh, that's when you really start leveling out. The secret is learning how to roll while you're driving with one knee.

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I've seen people do that. I've seen people do my old college roommate anyway. Hey, that sounds dangerous.

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No one under those conditions, it is necessary to have an automatic no. Why don't you just roll your bloods before you get in your car? Have you ever wondered hard and I mean really hard about what the deal is with airline for? Well, I know a lot of comics who have. I really thought I could come up with a new angle allowing for the abstract structures of a specific language as they may relate to structures in other languages, but no matter what, you can't get around the simple fact that airline food is just bad as bad.

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During my postgrad days at Harvard, there were these two fellows named Fat Freddy for Talarski and Free Will and Franklin, and they awoke my mind to the weird universe.

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No, I really don't think this is a good look for you. Remember a while ago when I told everybody that once Joe Biden is president, we can push him to the left? Yes, I remember. Well, I don't think that's going to happen. Ha, that's not going to happen, at least not in the foreseeable future.

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What do you mean by foreseeable future? Like before the sun explodes into a million beautiful colors. That's that very helpful, Noam. Speaking of the sun exploding, have you seen my lighter? He can't even though I have it. No, I have it helpless.

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Don't don't worry, Jeremy, we will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no weed. Yeah. What's my advice? Don't get burned later. Guess what, member forced the vote? Remember, we did that thing called forced a vote. It was for health care, for Medicare, for all, and. It was the justice Democrats was asking them to do what they ran on, which was to withhold their vote from Nancy Pelosi.

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So they got something for us, for it and they didn't. And expose a lot of people, exposed the intercept for running interference for politicians, for doing act. Ryan Grim, doing access journalism, you for being a complete tool clown.

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Who else? Justin Jackson had to spank Ryan Gray. I mean, it was just a lot of people, of course, exposed all the justice Democrats. And the people who defend them and run interference for them, they all got exposed. Now, Dave Dayen from the what's that thing he writes for the prospect, whatever American Prospect, he also formerly from The Intercept, Dave Dave, he says, put the minimum wage on the floor, make anyone opposed to have to vote against a very popular policy that every voter understands.

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Dave, I don't know. Sounds childish in half baked. You should ask for more. I don't know.

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Why don't you ask for more than less and then more things and then you can't do it. But have you tried being nicer? You should try first of all, this sounds like violence. Dave, Dave, I'm going to say it is committing violence against the Democrats, and that is and this is lateral violence and four thousand people, over 4000 people like this, that's extra violence. Every like is another stab with an A..

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Dave Danz, he's he's all for forced to vote for a minimum wage. Now, I Googled, I'm not good at that, but I Googled Dave Day and hash tag, first of all, I didn't see anything come up, so I must have did it wrong. I must have did it wrong. I'm sure he wrote a lot of articles about hastag forced to vote and how we should foresta. I just couldn't find them because I'm not good at that.

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I know what I'm doing. I'm dumb, so if anybody can find those articles he wrote on force to vote and send them to me, I'd love to read em because I'm sure he's for it, because he's for he's for it. He understands that when you force the vote, anyone opposed to the vote, what you do is you make anyone who's opposed to it vote against a very popular policy that every voter understands. He so he gets it. So if you guys could find the article he wrote about it, send it to me.

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I could. I'm bad at that. And by the way, gee, that sounds familiar, where have I heard that idea before, Jeker? I wonder where it's you know what?

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I bet we could even do a hashtag around this hashtag forced to vote maybe. You don't force the vote for 15, you don't take hashtag, put the minimum wage on the floor is catchy enough. Hashtag put the minimum wage on the floor. I'd like that. It'd be a harder theme song, much harder because the vote was pretty catchy, so forced to vote but for the minimum wage.

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No, it's not the same because he's he's not yelling it into a webcam. Jimmy Door was one hundred thousand percent, correct, a month ago when he was calling on our Congress to force the vote hastag force to vote hastag Jimmy door.

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I just want to say, using Capsis violence, you know, this and then that exclamation mark and this is all violence like knifing someone. It is like knifing someone.

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Do you mean are you OK after all that yelling at you. Oh my God. He tweeted at you.

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He tweeted and yelled at and he's being yelled at with the caps. It hurts. Honestly, it's not easy to take. Go ahead, Ron.

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Yeah, but I'm just saying that's why you shouldn't go on Twitter as much. I don't. Why I'm not.

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Do you mean force to vote for 15 for hashtag for 15? I guess you better reach out to movement leaders and start a committee. Mm hmm. Dave Day and you can't just tell people to force a vote on minimum wage on the floor. Have you fucking started a committee? Have you worked out to grassroots organizers first? Have you called the DSA? Have you coordinated with the Justice Democrats? Do you have your boots on the ground? Have you even formed a committee?

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Dave the fuck. This is how I'm going to do the news for the rest of the next four years. Mocking, laughing like a king who won. Like a king. And and I will pardon them and sees him, he sees him the most when you're doing that, you need your yellow microphone, right?

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Yes. I'll give you the yellow mark. You need to wave that yellow microphone. Oh, there it is. You didn't think you really think I had oh, come on, Ronnie, baby. I got it, baby. Let's go. I know, I know, I know. It lives nearby.

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Sees him.

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There you go. I love that.

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I miss that. They don't say that in movies anymore. Sees him. They would say that in all those the movies with the the Egypt Kings and the things and the Ten Commandments sees him.

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All right, but that's what I'm 20, 20 is a new year man, they might bring it back. I hope so. I don't get I don't get how Dave Day and things, he could do this before he reaches out to movement leaders and starts a committee. I mean, that's just irresponsible. He's fucking up the minimum wage they've done is fucking it up.

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Jimmy, there are people that are working behind the scenes for a long time, long time on the minimum wage and then frickin Dave day.

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And it's called Jimmy. What's called strategy. Strategy. That's right. Strategy, Dave. Strategy involves not ever fighting for the thing you like. Where is your strategy? Looks like you want to fight for it. First 100 days. My advice is to put the minimum wage bill on the floor, get caught trying, it might even work, what, the F day?

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What is he doing wrong? This post is divisive, man. This is dividing the left de. Chagrinned, did you learn nothing from forced to vote, Dave? Strategy all of a sudden calling on elected officials to bring something most Americans want to the floor isn't controversial anymore. What happened, Dave? David, what happened? Why is it that controversial anymore? And what is your strategy? What's your second step? They didn't force the vote out Medicare for all, they damn sure ain't doing this.

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I want to listen to you, angelic. I want to listen to you, but please stop yelling. This is violence. Please stop yelling. Regardless of the outcome, we need to document the January six attack for history, it's worth taking the time to put people under oath on the record. So the truth comes out only with truth. Is reconciliation even possible? What's. So forced to vote does have merit. Call witnesses now Medicare for all during a covid pandemic.

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Yes, so again, Jeff, preventer's making the. This is exactly what forced a vote would have done, put people on the record. So the truth comes out, Jeffrey Venters making that point. And just to remember why forced to vote is a good idea. Here is Alexandra Cortez to tell us why it's a good deal. Well, there's a few reasons why you want to force the vote on something like Medicare for all or fifteen dollars minimum wage.

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Sometimes it's to get members on the record so people can't make excuses later. Sometimes these votes create real political pressure that forces developments, just like Dave Dane was alluding to. It might just work. Sometimes we vote for historical record to let future generations know that we did everything we could. So that's why you do forced to vote, and that's according to AOC. But when she got a chance to do it, they didn't do it. And now Dave Dane is committing violence against them by saying they should do it, too.

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And I hope he stops it.

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I don't know what the I don't know what Dave Dane has a problem with with obviously with women and women of color.

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And that's why he's doing that, that is just fucking mean, in the words of Andrew Cuomo, that is just mean that Dave Day and why would they do that to the Democrats?

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That's fucking mean. You know, I'm just telling you, this is divisive, this is divisive. That's just mean. OK, any other anything else, Ron? Well, I actually I guess I mean tube. I like his idea, just like I like to force the vote. I think we should all agree that whenever you should push politicians to do something, they should do.

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I think that's a good thing. And you know, the other thing, too, when people keep, like, pontificating back and forth about strategy and about this and that, hey, Jimmy, you know how often the left has won in my lifetime, in both our lifetimes?

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Pretty much never. Never. Pretty much never. So I don't know about you, but I'm open to trying different things. I'm open to different and new ideas. I'm open to, you know, trying to actually win for once because I've never really experienced that in my lifetime. The left really hasn't. I mean, yeah, society has progressed some and that's great. But politically, that that hasn't really been represented. And, you know, it's time to shift the status quo.

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So, so, so, so to just like. Do all the same old things, I feel like it's fair to say, well, that that's not really cutting it anymore because it hasn't cut it ever. I'm with you, Ron. Hey, you know, we no longer have an Amazon link because we're not doing that, we're not playing that game. But here's another great way you can help support the show is you become a premium member.

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President Joe Biden's calling me alow. Help a president, I can't get up. Are you all right, Mr. President? Hey, you guys get your fourteen hundred dollars yet?

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No, you said we get two thousand dollars on day one. Remember that, Joe? Again, if your soapbox, Jack, is saying, twelve hundred dollars a month ago, the checks in the mail should have gotten you six hundred dollars by. What are you guys planning to do with that 400 burning hole in your pockets? Nobody's gotten any jacks yet, Joe.

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Now, bullshit on that Dingel shingle.

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I sent it out to you by overnight delivery. Should have gotten them last week, fed by by FedEx.

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Close by. I don't get it, Joe. OK, let me circle back on back for you. Yeah, I sent you something better than cash. I sent you protection. I bombed Syria so you didn't have to. Enough said. End of subject. And you're fat.

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Why aren't you sanctioning Mohammed bin Salman for killing Jamal Khashoggi? Come on, climb down from the Christ, Johnson. Half of that malarky journalisms get killed all the time in their job descriptions, the four W's of journalism, who, what, why, what?

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Where do you get murdered?

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You could seize his assets.

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It would be disrespectful to his religion and murderous despots. Look, don't bother. Don't bother me. I know all about the great profits of Mulholland Drive, which took my Corvette. Daryn went flat out sweet.

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Uh, the Prophet Mohammed, not prophets of Mulholland Drive. Will you stop? What happened to Camilla Kosugi was a tragic accident. A lot of guys get dismembered trying to get marriage documents to tell me you've never been in love.

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What are your thoughts on Neera Tanden withdrawing her nomination, Joe? No sweat off my back, Jack. We're still going to fight a good hours to include her and her in the cabinet. Yeah, what's his name? My chief of staff said that.

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You mean Ron Klain? No, I'm talking about the guy who's a Fannie Mae lobbyist. He yeah, radically. No, this guy is an executive at a bunch a venture capital firm that I think. Yeah, yeah.

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Ron Klain.

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No doubt, Ron Klain, I don't the guy used to be my chief of staff under Obama, he called Elena Kagan a progressive and I'd played.

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No, no, Kevin Spacey played him in the movie Recount. Ron Klain, idiot is I think his name is Ron Klain. Have you heard of him?

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Hey, why will you fight your guts out to raise the minimum wage and extend Medicare for all? Joe? Because I respect the history of the Senate as well. Yeah, we'll straighten up and fly right. What is wrong with you nutcases talking about this and that while we're out there doing all the work, don't you know there are processes you must follow? And like what procedures, man?

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Don't give me that procedure. Is the process in the process? Is the procedure? Yeah, procedure is part of the process and procedure is its own process to get with it.

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That sounds unduly complicated, Joe. You can't mess with the system. You got your procedure, part of the process and the process, part of the system, and I'm leaving out the most important element of the procedural process system, respect, respect, respect you.

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It is respect a system systemise order, order means respect, respect accorded without covid, I wouldn't be president. Yeah. If you don't like your fourteen hundred dollar check, you ain't poor to stop your whining about justice and enjoy the next four years of the Joe Biden presidency. Yeah, because I'd take a long nap.

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Keep faith that the Democrats are left scrambling. This is from USA Today today. It said actually yesterday, USA Today today, yesterday, today, Democrat today, Mike, USA Today Today. Democrats left scrambling on a 15 dollar minimum wage now that it appears left out. Of the covid stimulus bill, I am shocked. I am shocked grin.

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You are kidding me. Mesa, first time for everything. Oh. Maybe they'll finally get the 15 dollars through when it's only worth about six dollars. Now, now, that strategy, that strategy, Ron. OK, here we go, because here's so here's how they did it. They decided to say that the parliamentarian makes the rules and has more power than the people who got elected. That's what they're trying to do. So they say the parliamentarian, Elizabeth McDonough, she ruled last week that a provision setting the federal minimum wage at fifteen dollars an hour would not be eligible under the special budget rules.

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Democrats are using to avoid a filibuster while passing their controlled environment. So, you know, this happened to the Republicans once that the parliamentarian said, oh, you can't put that in a bill. That's not. And they said, oh, guess what? You're fired. And they fired the parliamentarian, hired another one and turned the new one was OK with what they wanted to do, because that's how power works.

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So what this tells you that what this tells, first of all, that's good, that an unelected person who doesn't need to be listened to has this much power. It's almost Branom now. Ron, I don't know. It's almost like the Democrats are using this as an excuse.

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Yes, it's almost like it's like it's almost like they were running through the halls.

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Like, what can we there's got to be something. Right. Do we have shit? What about what about the have we talked to the parliamentarian. We could probably sell that. It's not it goes against the rules somehow. We're OK, we're going to we're going to ride with that.

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We got that parliamentarian. So.

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So the Democrats are not even going to give you a hike in the minimum wage. Not only are they not giving you actual relief from covid.

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They're not talking about a two thousand dollar monthly check, they're talking about a one time fourteen hundred dollar check, the rest of the world is getting monthly checks the rest of the world. This is the only country doing this like this, they are crushing the workers. So what they are doing is, again, this is an assault on the working class, that's what this is. This is a full out, flat out assault by the oligarchs and the financial system on the working class.

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That's what's happening. And for them to be dicking around like this. This is what is happening. There's a massive upward transfer of wealth. And so I kept asking Dylan Ratigan.

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We're going to get back on the show soon to talk about this, why won't they give people covid relief from the rest of the world is and no one has an answer to that.

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Well, I have a theory. My theory is like everybody's been talking about, they gave all the money, the five trillion to the richest oligarchs, they have the money and who gets the money first is important. And so now they're going they want to buy shit at fire sales, there's every billionaire in this country has got his eye on something they want to buy. Meaning like, oh, wait till all the all the restaurants fail and I'll book and I'll get them.

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So that's what they're doing, they don't give a fuck that workers are being crushed, they want to they want them not to be able to pay their rent so their landlords go bankrupt and then guess who gets that property? The creditors. So when you have an act of God like this, a pandemic that makes you shut down, your economy gets wiped out.

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You're supposed to relieve people's debts. You're supposed to have debt forgiveness. They're not doing that. And they're not giving people relief. So they're not only screwing the workers and the and the rent and mortgage payers, but the mortgage holders and for the creditors. And who is the creditors bucking the financial system? Just like they did to people when Wall Street went belly up during the mortgage crisis, they took people's houses away and gave them to the banks.

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They're doing it to do it again. So there's an assault happening right now on the working class, an all out assault is happening. No one's calling it that. No one's talking about it like that. That's what's happening. So we're going to get Dylan Ratigan on, we'll get Max Keiser on, I think, pretty soon to see what he says about this. And Max and I, of course, haven't seen eye to eye on a lot of things.

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But, you know, I like Max. I think he's got a lot to say about what's happening. So but that's that's my assessment. And we'll see. We'll see if I mean, I think it's obvious. Right. Ronald, would you disagree that there's an all out assault on the working class right now?

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No, I don't disagree with that assessment. And bring it back to the fifteen dollars an hour I saw this tweeted out by the Gravelle Institute. What are you saying to people where you're telling them that they are essential workers? Yes, they are. And you're saying they don't deserve a wage to live on. What kind of society is that?

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That that. Well, that's called a failed society. We are a failed state. I know it's I've been I've been saying that for a while. Other people are starting to say it, but. Well, let's get it.

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Let's get through our sketch. So the sketch Roots Action tweeted out, The parliamentarian has no official power. It's the vice president, meaning Kamala Harris as president of the Senate. She decides whether to overrule the parliamentarian. This is entirely on Kamala Harris. She can override the parliamentarian. There would not be 60 votes to overrule. So White House will not overrule the 15 dollar minimum wage decision despite progressives pleas. We'd rather listen to an unelected person with no actual power than to the poors.

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So does everyone see what's going, everyone sees what's going on. Vote for me, the checks will go out. Vote for me. We're going to get you that 15 now. I mean, they ran on this 15 dollar minimum wage and now they're sticking it. And who's the light? But Trump is still the biggest liar in the world. He's still the most corrupt. So this so now the norms are back. Ron. Now, this is the norms.

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You lie to people during the campaign and then you totally do the opposite when you get elected. That's the norms. Remember, they say Trump was breaking all the norms. Well, now we got a guy who me. And we're this is the norm. Get ready for the norms. And how about, gee, so an unelected person whose job it is to interpret the rules, they decided, oh, this goes against the rules. So that's why we're not getting a wage increase the bulk majority of Americans want.

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And who can do something about it? While the vice president, who, by the way, was also so grossly unpopular she could barely get any leverage, even in her own state, who now has this position of power. So, holy shit, talk about democracy. This is that tweet you're talking about from the Gravelle Institute by giving up on the fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage, Joe Biden is saying that there are workers who are essential. Yet they don't deserve a living wage.

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That is exactly right. Sanders vows to force a vote. On the 15 dollar minimum wage, huh? How is he going to force that vote? Well, here's what I said, first of all, this is violence, Bernie. This is violence, why is Bernie pushing a popular policy when the party leadership are squashing it? That's just divisive, Bernie, did he reach out to improved grassroots organizers and start a committee? So, of course, no, he didn't do any of those things.

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And I would like to know what is the leverage he's going to use? To force this vote, he could put a hold on the coronavirus relief, is he going to do that? What is what is going to be his leverage, you think? Well, let's let's look at this at the sketch. Senate Budget Committee Chairman Bernie Sanders said he will force a vote on an amendment. Raising the federal minimum wage this week. To the best of my knowledge.

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There will be a vote on the minimum wage and we'll see what happens, he said, I intend to offer the bill that will raise the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour and we'll see how the vote goes. If we fail in this legislation, I will be back, we are going to keep going. I was told that trying to force a vote on something is bad strategy before, but he's not. What is he, Ron? What is the leverage he's using to force a vote?

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I don't again, we should have got a parliamentarian and someone who knows this thing, but. It doesn't seem like Bernie's actually using any leverage to force a vote here, and by the way, if they take that vote on the 15 dollar minimum wage and extract it from the covid relief bill, that's a pointless vote. Here's what David Sirota says.

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The 15 dollar minimum wage must be in the reconciliation bill, meaning that the coronavirus budget thing that's supposed to give relief. Or it almost certainly isn't is not going to happen. The Biden White House knows this and is still somehow bullshitting everyone by pretending it may happen at some future undefined time, it has to happen now, not later now. OK. If and here we go back to forced to vote, here's your leverage. This is exactly what if six House Democrats commit to not voting for the covid relief bill unless it has a minimum wage increase in it?

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Biden, Pelosi and Schumer would have to add the minimum wage into the bill to pass it. Or they would have to find GOP votes to pass it, which doesn't seem to be there. So here they have another chance to do this. They're not going to do it. Is it that funny, Ron, that they won't do that? Well, here's one more, he says. If all 50 in the Senate Democratic caucus voted to nuke the filibuster and pass the House bill, it would be on Biden's desk, but some of them don't want to do that.

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So, again, this is all about the Democrats, the people you elected, the progressives having power to flex and they won't do it.

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If just six House Democrats commit to not vote, this is. The same thing we just went through. And now people don't want to say forced to vote, they're saying put it on the floor, whatever. You know, it's almost like Democrats don't want to get that 15 dollar minimum wage run, it's almost like that.

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So get the get this, even in a divided America, America agrees on raising the minimum wage. By how? By how much? Well, 83 percent of Americans say this minimum wage of seven dollars and twenty five cents is not enough. What did the other 17 percent say, the other 17 percent haven't had to worry about money since the 70s.

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OK, all right.

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Two thirds of Americans favor raising the federal minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour. That's from the Pew Research Center. Those things are very, very popular across the country and Republicans and Democratic districts, said Pramila Gipple.

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Referring to the 15 dollar minimum wage and campaign finance reforms, among other progressive priorities, and nobody is going to be interested in procedural reasons why we can't deliver. And she's right. Right, Ron? Our progressive frustration's enough to sink the larger relief package, Biden's top legislative priority without the wage boost. Ready? Here we go. So this is the question. Are the Democrats going to do what David Sirota is saying? Are they going to force them to put this shit in the bill or withhold their vote?

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Are they going to do it? That's the question. Are they going to do it? Are they going to do it? Giampaolo sounds like she wants to do it. Are progressive, are they going to do it? Well. Rokan says, nope, we're not going to do it, he said I'd have to vote for it because I don't in good conscience, I can't deny people unemployment. So it's the same thing they did with that first covid relief.

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The Carers Act, they're giving you crumbs. And so that people who don't want to grow kind of actually doesn't want to challenge the establishment right now. He didn't do it on forced to vote. He's not forcing a vote on minimum wage. He didn't force a vote on Medicare for all. He's finding a reason not to do it. And the reason is that bullshit reason they gave him Kahrizak was, oh, we need the unemployment money. Well, why can't you get fucking both?

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All you have to do is withhold your vote and you get it again. Thank you for making me look like a fucking genius. They can't help themselves, they can't help them. I have to go along with Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer in the establishment, that's what Rokan is saying. I have to keep doing it. I did it in the Keres Act. I'm doing it now. I did it with force to vote when I voted for Nancy Pelosi.

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I'm doing it again. I've never, ever actually going to fucking do anything. That's what Rokan is saying. Now, Prokhanov disagrees with me. He's welcome to come back on that show and try to defend this bullshit again like he did last time. The exact thing he did. Exactly, exactly what they're doing is they're hiding behind bullshit. And that's what Rokan is doing. That's what they're all doing. They're all doing it. I'm not making this up.

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They're doing it right in plain fucking sight. Asked whether she'd make the minimum wage an ultimatum for her final support, Congresswoman familiar JoPa was careful to say her vote would be based on the bill as a whole, not just.

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I get like it's a tiny thing, just just that tiny thing of getting our getting our minimum wage caught up to present day, which, by the way, it should be twenty four dollars an hour not.

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So what are you going to hold your vote for? What are you going to do that for, Representative? Paul and Roxana, what are you going to do? Nothing. Absolutely fucking nothing, Ron. They're going to withhold their vote for nothing. They're going to use their leverage zero.

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They're never, ever, ever going to flex their leverage and get you anything. That's what they're saying. Thank you for making me look like a genius. And. And for continuing to make your defenders look like chumps. The Justice Democrats defenders look like such fucking idiots. And I don't have to do anything, I just have to sit here and laugh. Chumps, every last fucking one of them chumps. Like most other progressives, J. Paul is stressing the fact that she still sees the Biden White House.

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As a good faith ally, the. And here comes a friend of the show, David Sirota, to explain. To everybody, and especially Representative Jay Apollon Ocana, that the reason Joe Biden is only negotiating with Joe Manchin. To make the stimulus bill worse is because there are not six House Democrats willing to do what Joe Manchin is doing and effectively promised to vote down the bill if their demands are not met. If six House Dems pledged to vote against any covid relief bill that did not include a minimum wage, the entire dynamic would change.

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The entire city of Washington, D.C., would freak out and the entire White House would have to use all its power to add a minimum wage into the bill.

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Why is he being so divisive, Ron? Why that is violence, why why is he does he have a problem with women of color? Does David Sirota have a problem with women and women of color?

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Because that's what it sounds like. Well, you know, I've gotten to the point where I try to correct myself whenever I say things and I've said this in the past, I think we all have where where I say things like, oh, the Democratic Party is so incompetent. The Democratic Party is so incompetent, they're incompetent.

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Well, that's the thing like they are. I mean, I think it's time that people really stop sugarcoating the fact that they are actually a right wing party. They are a genuine right wing party. And yeah, the majority of the establishment would rather not have living wages, which, by the way, 15 the fight for 15 is basically symbolic at this point because when they started, fifteen dollars an hour was the living wage. It's not a living wage anymore.

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So even just getting there is largely symbolic at this point. And we can't even get there, which is which is absolutely remarkable in so many ways. So I don't call them incompetent anymore. I'm like, no, they're a right wing party in any other similar industrialized country, they would be the furthest right option you got. So, you know, if there's some individuals there that are for living wages, that's great. But if you're going to do is tweet nice?

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Nothing's changing there to the right of the most right wing governments in Europe, I mean, the Joe Biden, the Democrats, and that's to the right of them. There's no other right wing government that is not giving their people covid relief if they shut their business down. No other government, no right wing government and no other right wing government is denying people health care. They don't. They give them all Medicare. They give them all fucking relief when they go to bed.

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We're not doing that in the United State. Democrats won't even give them a fifty dollar minimum wage. They won't do anything. I was having a conversation earlier today with with someone from the UK and he was saying, look, the Tories had to do things they'd rather not do.

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They're really off. And I'm like, look, I don't disagree that the Tories are awful. And I get that they're doing things they'd rather not do. But here's the thing. Here in the United States are Republicans and Democrats didn't even do that much. They didn't even do the things they'd rather not do. Right. They didn't even go that far.

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Well, here's what Glenn Greenwald said. He says Joe Manchin knows how to use his leverage and power and is comfortable doing so. The justice Democrats know how to use their leverage and power to Rokan knows how to use his leverage and power to. They just don't have the backbone to do it. They don't.

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They're all talk. And if if I'm wrong about this broken, you're welcome to come out and challenge the veracity of this statement that everyone seems to be transparently true. Again, I don't know how long you guys think you're going to keep bullshitting, you bullshitted people about the unemployment for the act, you bullshitted people about forced the vote, and now you're still fucking non-stop top of your lungs bullshitting.

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And I see through it. Rod sees through it every fucking body with conscious sees through it. David Sirota sees through it a pretty sure your grievances through it, even though he's pretending not to.

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But Glenn Greenwald gets it right. Manchin knows how to use his leverage and power and is comfortable doing so. That's not true of many people in Congress who wield similar leverage as he does. It takes courage to walk away if you don't get what you want and people know if you have it or not, which determines power. And everyone knows that the justice Democrats aren't going to they have got their Notley's wonders. And if you're in Congress and constantly make demands and never have them fulfilled, but just march in line like good soldiers anyway, why would any rational, why would anyone rational ever take you seriously?

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Those who never show they're willing to use their leverage will be ignored for good reason, Nancy Pelosi said when asked about the progressives in the Congress, the squad, she said, oh, that's just like a handful of people, four or five people. Well, that's all. It takes six people to derail any legislation right now and they won't do it. The dynamic above applies equally to activists and voters, people who are always too scared to walk away from a negotiation are people who never get anything.

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That's why I say, if you're not like, look, I agree with Lawrence O'Donnell, of all people who said if you aren't willing to withhold your vote for the Democratic Party, they'll just ignore you. So I'm withholding my vote from the Democratic Party. I'm doing what Lawrence O'Donnell said is the only way you can influence them. And that's what Glenn is telling us to. If you're a voter or an activist and you're not willing to walk away from the Democratic Party, then you have no power.

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And that's why the left has no power in the United States. Zero, nothing.

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And when someone like me does try to stand up and get us to use our power, they all attack the fucking messenger because we're a bunch of adult children of alcoholics in the United States.

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But everybody boasts a lot of people saw through that. And those people who defended the squad and defended in action, like the Young Turks are taking a fucking hit for it, thank God.

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Thank God, so he says the dynamic of people who are always too scared to walk away from negotiation are people who never get anything. If you're going to be a good, compliant party soldier, even when you're ignored, then you'll be ignored. It's universal. That's exactly correct. If you can't pass a policy that has 67 percent support when you have full control of Congress, what the hell is the point of electing you? The answer is there is no point.

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And that's what I've been telling people, what is the point of voting for people who don't take corporate money if they just do the bidding of the people who do? The answer is there isn't one. When Norman Solomon said, what's the point of electing the progressives in Congress if they're going to vote with the surveillance state anyway?

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There isn't a point. I don't know how long it's going to take for my Hillary voting friends to realize this. But nothing is going to change. Nothing. Hello, this is Jimmy. OK, Boomer, now what who is this? It's Vince Vaughn. Oh, hi, Vince. Oh, OK, Boomer.

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OK, why do you keep saying that? Also, I'm not a boomer. I'm Gen X.

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You sure about that? I think you might be pushing that boundary a little bit. No, I'm not a baby boomer. What is this?

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The younger generation have declared war on us. Haven't you heard? Millennials are saying, OK, Boomer to anyone older than them that they disagree with.

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OK, yeah. Well, OK. Yeah, well, I'm not going to take this bullshit lying down for the entitled punks. I've got to appropriate their little snarky shithead thing and use it against them. And as part of my two pronged strategy to deal with the situation, I am also going to use it frivolously and meaninglessly so that it eventually loses all meaning. That's how we do it, baby.

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Wow, you seem to be pretty worked up about this.

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This generation wars are getting you riled up. J.D. Power and Associates know millennials and their goddamn participation trophies made out of avocado toast are ruining this country.

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Jimmy.

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