
TEASER: Is Trump or Biden More Likely to Keel Over on Debate Night?
The New Abnormal with Molly Jong-Fast & Rick Wilson- 1,239 views
- 28 Sep 2020
“People are dying, tens of thousands of people are out of work, he’s embarrassing,” is not only the quote of the year from Philippe Reines but also sums up how he, Rick Wilson, Molly Jong-Fast, and Mike Madrid feel about Donald Trump’s dwindling support among his own base. To make matters worse for the president, he is set to debate Joe Biden for the first time Tuesday night, and he doesn’t have that same 2016 anger and energy he drummed up to defeat Hillary Clinton. In this new members-only bonus episode of The New Abnormal, Rick, Molly, Philippe and Mike discuss what Joe Biden should say, word for word, when he gets on that stage with Trump and the one thing that could sink the president without Joe’s help. Two words: no crowds. “That is where Trump is at his worst,” says Mike. “Without that he’s going to be like a goat in the wilderness.” There’s also the whole painting-Biden-as-senile by the Trump campaign thing, and it just won’t work, Mike says: “They’re tried to convince people that he’s senile and will drool on people while at the same time trying to convince people he’s some mastermind of the left that’s going to being about socialism.” It is quite ironic. “If one of those guys is more likely to keel over Tuesday night on stage, it’s not Joe Biden,” adds Philippe. Then, the group switches gears to talk about Trump losing support among a few of his core voter demographics: senior citizens and non-college educated men. (“COVID has broken the Trump fever) Plus! Rick gives a dramatic reading of one of Trump’s rally quotes and it’s just as bogus as you’d expect. And the group discusses that awkward moment when the crowd booed Trump at Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s funeral: “This is the only time he’s worn his mask when we desperately needed to see his face.”Want more? Become a Beast Inside member to enjoy a limited-run series of bonus interviews from The New Abnormal. Guests include Cory Booker, Jim Acosta, and more. Head to newabnormal.thedailybeast.com to join now.
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What you're about to hear is a teaser for our new bonus episodes we are doing for subscribers to Beest inside the Daily Beast membership program. We have a very special debate season preview tonight with former senior adviser to Hillary Clinton, the guy who played Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton's debate preparation, Phillipe Brittas and Lincoln Project member and Republican strategist Mike Madrid. Again, this is for a beast inside members only to hear this, along with the rest of our upcoming bonus episodes, had two new abnormal dot, the Daily Beast dot com.
That's new abnormal dot, the Daily Beast dot com. I have a question for Mike Madrid and Rick Wilson here. Do you think Trump has done a debate prep?
I concur. I second that motion for Rick Wilson. No, clearly he has. And I'm sure they'll probably try to schedule it, run a few things by him. He will pay attention and he'll move on. But look, here's what I think Trump's biggest weakness is going into the debates. The fact that you're not going to have an audience is really what is going to destabilize him. And Trump doesn't need a big one. He just needs a handful of people that will get some sort of group cackling or some sort of group group response.
But without that is that is where Trump is at his worst. You'll recall in the past month or two when he did this one on one interviews with journalists, he has literally no gauge when he's not getting some sort of feedback from others as to when he's going off the rails and whether what he's saying is smart or stupid or incoherent or whatever it is, he literally needs the feedback. And the larger the crowd, the more comfortable he is. And as you know, P.T. Barnum persona, he needs that stagecraft.
And without that, I think he's going to be wandering around like, you know, like a go out in the wilderness, just look, you know, looking like prey with vultures circling around him because he's going to have literally no gauge on which way he's going and where he's heading.
I mean, I think that's true. And you see that with remember that interview he did with Laura Ingraham where he was like comparing. Right. He was talking about show. Remember that when he was talking about what it's like to shoot someone and how it was like golf? And she kept saying, no, no, you don't want to say that. And he still didn't get it and he kept saying it or the cognitive test. He just keeps going.
He doesn't realize what he's saying is just asinine because there's literally no feedback. And he his personality requires that external reaction in order to give him a guidepost as to where he's heading. And barring that, he's just listless. He's fucked with Chris Wallace. Exactly. Oh, yes.
Imagine the conversation we'd be having if Steve Scully, who I love and respect, but God bless him. The reason I love and respect him is because he'd be and will be probably a terrible debate moderator because he's not used to Trump. He's not used to really anything that's not human. It would be very different. Chris Wallace isn't going to fact check every 30 seconds, but he's not going to let the duties go by. And more importantly to Molly's point, to make his usual Trump's usual safeword, you know, that he can say on Fox it's a fake and everyone stops with the BDM or whatever it is that they're that they're doing.
The safeword won't work in front of Chris Wallace. Three are giving business owners half price plans until 2021 because whether it's giving us a lift home, sorting out an emergency league or serving our weekly treat, these businesses have kept us going.
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