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We're live, the Pat, Bab, Pa with Ron on the road. We're on the road, but this is a different era that we're getting into. First off, subscribe because you want to be able to say you were there for the first half of the era. You want to be able to say you were there when we reached down to the depths and pulled up the bag of McDonald's. Bro, you know that I'm not playing at all. Quarter founder, in tow. Big Mac, in tow. But more importantly, brand new presenting sponsor, in tow. Welcome to the PatBev pod with Ron, family and universe, McDonald's, our new presenting sponsor. They're not just burgers. They're the best burger in the world. I have a different energy when I'm walking down the street with a bag of McDonald's. It's absolutely special. I don't think I've ever been as excited for a sponsor because there's an excitement associated with me being able to walk into McDonald's and say, Hey, I'm here for business. Not only am I here for pleasure, at the same time, I'm here for business. Classic burgers, sizz hot, juicy as ever. You might want to pause the podcast and go and get yourself some McDonald's right now.

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I had the fries before the game. I'm locked in. I had the fries before the game. I'm locked in. Because of these fries, I'm dunking shit now. I'm feeling I'm getting my use back, like the Fountain of You.

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It really is. Happy Meal vibes. I need to see you walking down tunnel, dripped out, but with Happy Meal box, like accessory.

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Next TV game.

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Yeah?

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Yeah, for sure.

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Next TV game. But, brother, let's get right into We went to PatBev pod with Ron. Watched the game last night. Pat-bev spinning again. But as we've hammered home a million times on this podcast, winning is the main thing and the only thing.

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So it doesn't matter. And that's the hard part about it, right? You want to get an opportunity, you want to play. You got to give credit to Tyrese, and you got to give credit to Tobias, and Joel, and Mel, guys who've been out.

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Nico, market. There's a starting lineup out there, I'm near.

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It's hard filling all those voice, but I think that we're going out there. We competed hard. But you never enjoy losing at all. But it's a good opportunity for everyone else to step up and see what they got. So it's been fun to see that process.

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You've been stepping up.

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I know, but you just don't like losing, though.

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You played against the Golden State Warriors last night, and you had multiple conversations with Steph Curry, one after a foul, which wasn't that hard of a foul. He was giving you this, yeah, energy. And then after the game, you guys had a tender embrace. He lit it up. We're talking about one of the best players of all time, but also a guy who you have an extended history with. What was that conversation?

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No, it was just, Bro, you fouled me. He's like, Yeah, I know. What's the argument you're in about? You fouled me. But you got to think, man, every Bron camp, Paul pierce camp, USA team, that's my roommate. Coming up in college, him at Davidson, me going to South Carolina, working out with him with his trainer. That's my bro bro. So it's always good seeing him. Always, always. We got a different vibe. We're talking about 19-year-olds. Now we're 35, still doing what we were doing. We're 19 representing our country at 19 years old. A funny story. He used to shoot them shots, right? We used to be the USA team in all those different He used to be, How you play today, Steph? Yeah, I made some shots. Let me get the USA team. He be bricking. Shooting the same shots he shoot. Bricking. Me and Johnny Fenn, like, Come on, Steph, man. Stop shooting that shit, bro. What, Pat? It's my shot. It's really shot. League leader, all time three. Yeah, it's definitely his shot. He knew something we didn't know.

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People didn't believe it at the time.

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That was Steph Kerr. And he's my son's favorite player. I called my son before the game. Hey, dad. Hey, what's up? What's up, buddy? How are you doing? I'm okay, dad. Dad, you got to play Steph Kerr today. How you feel? I feel good with you, man. How I feel? You're good, dad. You got to watch out. He's making a lot of threes, dad. I got you, buddy. Good lucks like that. Never tell me good luck at all. So, yeah, shout out to my little spank, man. It's been a vibe.

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People were giving you shit saying that you got a foul call that normally you wouldn't get, saying that Steph didn't foul you. That's not a foul. I see talking heads in the media talking about it.

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That's the one we talked about. That's a foul. I don't know what took him so long to call it.

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So was Steph saying it wasn't?

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Yeah, no. He knew it was. That's what we spoke about. Was it been a foul or not?

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So the refs say it's a foul. Steph says it's a foul. But then the talking heads are saying that it's not a foul.

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Who's the talking heads? The guy that's not on the court, right?

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Yeah, the guys that weren't on the court.

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The ref said it. The guy who did it said it. What do you mean?

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Interesting times last night because the big fella playing, but obviously wasn't at 100 %.

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Yeah. Sucked up. I hate to even talk about it, man. He's trying to do all he can for the team. He lost a couple of games. You always want to play. He always wants to compete. I don't know if it's the rule or not that got guys trying to fight through injuries, but I don't like the look of it. I think they've been getting it right all these years, who needs to be MVP, who needs to be first team. Maybe you have an argument about second team, but it's been fine. Everything It's been fine. So I hope that's not the road we're going down. Obviously, you won't everybody to play at the highest level, peed at the highest level, but you never want guys to fight through injuries to Not even for awards because people criticizing people about it. So I think that's just the energy of everything. No one's 100% in the league. Obviously, we know that, right? No one's 100%, but still, you shouldn't have to hear on ESPN and this, this, and this. You're not planned because you whatever. And having pressure come from that way, all other media aspects. I guarantee if someone On a different media outlet, woke up and couldn't talk.

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I don't think he'll be on TV talking. If he heard his voice, if he heard this, if he heard that, we still go to work, we still compete. We still try to fight We're going to break through everything because we're athletes and because we're supposed to be all these Superman, but no one in the NBA is 100 % right now. That's just the nature of the beast. You know what I mean? So it's going to come a time where you got to address it. I don't know if it's many games, I don't know if it's back-to-back, so I don't know if it's longer season. You know what I'm saying? Because you don't want to get a fans a shortage of anything. Like the fans push the league, and we understand that, but you want your best product out all the time.

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How How much of that noise makes it into the locker room?

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I mean, easy. We're on the Internet. We hear it, we see it. It's something that we don't hear. You even hear if you have a bad game. So obviously, you go here if you're not playing well or hurt or your team losing or your team winning. It just comes with the media. But that shouldn't be the push of guys going out there trying to push through injuries because what's saying in the media. But that's the nature of the beast now, though.

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Yeah, that's what's been bothering me, honestly, is that last night, I even said it. I was like, wow, I'm more annoyed that there's been this push to play through things. And people are like, you really think that he's only playing because some people on Twitter are saying X, Y, and Z? I was like, no, it's not that, but it's way more than some people on Twitter. It's coming from the media. It's coming from media outlets. It's this constant deluge of information where it's like, We need to look into this. We need to investigate further about injury reports or whatever. It's like, he was on the court, and he was clearly... And Bede's not drawing fouls. He's not playing in the lane. It's harder for him to move. And then this stuff happens with Kumenga, and it's even more unfortunate that it gets to that, even though Coach Nersh was saying that it wasn't related.

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I try to look at the files and everything. I salute him, even going out there and trying to compete. You know what I'm saying? Under that stress TV game ain't played in a while. Want to be out there back with your teammates. Don't want to let your teammates down. You know what I'm saying? Don't want to let yourself down. All the hard work you don't put in, I command them. I command them going out there and just putting on his back for the squad. You know what I'm saying? I look at it like that. With an attitude like that, good things always happen.

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Any insights as far as the health?

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Yeah, he's straight. He's straight. He's going to be straight. He put too much work in.

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Let's continue that work then. That's what we need. One of my favorite moments this past week was when Pat Bev was miced up.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Denver game.

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The Denver game. Pat Bev. A lot of points, a lot of assists.

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They tell me for the game, practice before they hit me with the, Yo, Pat Bev, they're going to mic you up. So I'm really like, how's that McDonald's Coca-Cola?

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It's magnificent, dude. Can I just... Before you get into it, maybe just a bite. Is that a white-black thing?

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You straw your drink?

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Yeah, I straw my drink. That's not white.

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It's not?

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You raw dog it? What's that? A Sprite?

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I know that's a Sprite. If you have a Sprite, things going to be all right.

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Anyway.

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Now, people want to hear. We got to address it. Orlando. We'll clip it. We're addressing now. Tell everybody, if everybody didn't know, tell them what happened.

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Okay. Interesting and complicated situation coming from Orlando. Should we hit an ad read before I'm here for this because I feel like this is juicy. I'm going to hit ad read, then we'll get into the juice. All right, because we're about to talk about the Orlando situation, and we're going to get to the bottom of everything that's been going on with the Orlando Media. The wild accusations.

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We'll give people some insight if they wanted to know some stuff. It's just access. But go ahead, that's.

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And of course, the PatBev podcast, through the benevolence of the NBA and the Sixers organization, is a credentialed podcast, a media credentialed podcast. And what happened after the game was one of our producers, who's credentialed to be there, was in the press conference and asked a question, just like any other reporter of the Orlando Magic, specifically Wendell Carter. Then, several days later, the Orlando media bubbles into a frenzy, saying things like, Is Patbev planting people? Was there a plant put in Orlando by Patbev? And it turns into, for lack of a better word, an absolute shitstorm. These media members having some type of umbrage with a voice that they've never heard in the room before, and they're assuming that there has to be something nefarious going on. And I wonder, if there were something nefarious going on, why would we document every single step of the journey and put it in our podcast, our behind-the-scenes video vlog, something that we completely controlled and put out ourselves. But suddenly, they're painting this narrative that just based off one little clip that they saw, that this is a plant, that there's some man in a mask in a long trench coat who's trying to sneak in and weave these crazy narratives, as opposed to the fact that we're doing the same thing that we've been doing all year that we've been trying to paint a very real and authentic and new-age media narrative.

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But I think that there are some old media types in Orlando that there are some Pearl clutching involved. They assumed- And I respect it, right?

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I respect it because I heard a wise man say a pair of lips to say anything. And I heard it. I'm like, Man, you're absolutely right. The media guy from Milando, I'm not the type of guy with you. You can ask me anything. I'm not the type of guy to not tell you the truth. But the saucy was putting on it. I don't have to plan anything. I literally say everything that comes to my mind. We don't move like that, especially if we represent the fabulous organization of the 76ers and the NBA on our back. That's not even a vibe. So when I read the story and the story came out, it hit New York Post and everything.

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Like 10 days after the game.

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It hit New York Post and everything. And I respect it. I respect the media, but the picture that was been painted about us is not even close to being true. We show number love to anything and everyone. And Back there and tell me, did you get it? I asked him, did you get the picture of my outfit that we tried to post to promote the merch? But he didn't know. So he can just only go off what he heard and the things that he heard, and he can apply that to the things that he thinks he knows and make that a big story. So I mean, kudos to him. His story made New York Post. You know what I'm saying? I'm all with love, but the story that was put out was fabricated in every way, every single way, not even close. And just the fact that you could reach out to us. Hey, Pat, is it any true to this? Because you know me. I was like, Yeah, I said that shit. The fact that you just go there and just run and just go, just go with no... That's the problem with old media.

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You got to get your details. You just can't jump off a ledge and just, Oh, I thought. No, you got to have hard facts.

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There's a stodgyness.

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Yeah, we want to clear up that up.

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I also think that we've, and especially me, I can't talk for everybody, but I definitely have made it my business on this show, not I'm not going to be talking negatively about any players in the NBA. That's not how I carry myself, and that's not really the timbre of the show.

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People attacked you.

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I know.

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You weren't even there. People attacked you. They thought that you was the producer, the guy who asked the question. No, it's unfortunate, but that's media. That's the old media. That's why it's good that I'm fortunate to be part of this This new media that I'm able to like, okay, cool. I'm not just go say something after someone just said something. I'm actually think. I'm actually give it some time. I'm actually give it some days. I'm actually, okay, cool. Then I speak on it.

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What bothered me a little bit about it was this vibe that it was, oh, we never have seen that person before, so they have to be doing something bad, which gives it this automatic old boys club feel where it's like, if you're not in the club, you're not welcome here. And it's like, we're credentialed. We're a credential media. Nobody snuck in. Everyone's like, Oh, that's scary that they could get it. No, it's not. This is a credential. We're allowed to be there. We're sanctioned to be there. There's no ill intent. And the fact that they're trying to kick us out of the club just because we had-We love you.

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When you asked the question to Mike Malone about what were you and Pat talking about, it wasn't about a play. It wasn't about anything. It was, oh, he thanked me for winning the NBA It's good to like, no one pushed that, though. No one pushed that. No one pushed love. No one pushed showing love. Of course not. That's too easy. No one pushed love, but they pushed us. Me plant? I need to plant something for her. I'll say what I want to say.

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Plant is such a funny word. It's just this paranoid terminology by just these couple of media members being like, he was wearing an orange shirt and And size ten and a half. What picture are you trying to paint?

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He said something like, he had two girls with him. It's literally the people who do the photos of the Sixers.

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They're trying to paint a picture.

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It was the wildest thing in the world. But his story, he wrote it. He was wrong about it. It made the New York Post. Classic old-school media. Classic.

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Yeah, it's funny. You want to get the real story? We will give it to you every time. We put out the real story originally, and we'll set the record straight whenever you want to have your little Fufu-like fabricated, salacious story lines, because we really haven't done anything but try and push- Love, love, love. Totally. But you've been pushing love in a different way.

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I'm not that ass.

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Huh?

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I'm just mad because we beat their ass.

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But love, love, love. Pushing love. You were showing love in a different way, though. Talk to me about Tony Snow, man.

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No. An adult. You got to get 10 day. An adult. It ain't even nothing to talk about. It ain't even nothing to talk about. Do you have history on it?

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Let me fill people in.

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Go ahead. Do your thing.

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Tony Snow, nine-year NBA vet, vaunted veteran. And he's actually been able to speak about a lot of his personal issues that he has and has had throughout his life, specifically an autism diagnosis that he got later on in life. He has two children that also have autism diagnosis, and he is at nine years of service, and he needs one more year of service, specifically only a 10-day contract for him to lock in basically the health care benefits for the rest of his life for him and his family.

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Mba is 10 years of service, right? You get 10 years of service, you get something. And that's the thing that a lot of people don't speak about with the NBA, it's the aftermath, the insurance policies, the coverage that you get, the best plans ever in the world. So 10 years of service gets you whatever you want for the rest of your life. That's why guys, he's fortunate as hell, he even played three years in the NBA, come to 10. So 10 years gets you and anyone with your last name, health benefits taken care of for the rest of your life. And we got to get that done. We got to push that. We got to push that right up. We got I'm going to push that.

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I mean, a 10-day contract, it makes so much sense that you could do something so little that could affect so many people for so long.

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Got to push that, bro.

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Signed Tony Snow.

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Yeah, straight up.

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I'll take him on the Sixers.

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My man was the mean. My man was the mean for a lifetime. Zero, zero, zero, zero, zero, zero. Yeah, we got to push that. We got to push that.

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Right. We pushed enough negativity about Tony Snow. It's like, why not just let him have this for the rest of his life?

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I think they will, though. You know what I'm saying? The NBA is the greatest organization in the league.

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But there's a deadline on it, right?

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I don't know the all the intel, but the NBA is going to take care of them.

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Yeah, it would only be right if they took care of it. Let's get my man Tony Snell, right? We have a bunch more topics to get into, but first, let's talk about an ad real quick. Let's talk about our good friends over there at New Amsterdam Vodka. New Amsterdam Vodka. Oh, yeah. You could taste the refreshingness of New Amsterdam Vodka because New Amsterdam Vodka, born from an uncompromising passion for great Vodka. Everyone's finding their wins with New Amsterdam Vodka, whether you're Pat Biv, Tony Snell, or some member of the media down in Orlando. We have no animosity towards you. We want everybody to be able to enjoy and take part in some delicious, fantastic New Amsterdam Vodka. I keep some of the tuck at all times, just so I can- That's what you're doing right now, right out of the pocket. Yeah, I got it in the pocket, dude. And New Amsterdam will have you feel like someone's going to socket you in your pocket like a rocket.

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I don't like that word, you use whip.

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I mean, whip, Ne-N.

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No, don't try to go for that.

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I'm talking about the... Let's freedom around the NBA real quick. Let's freedom for all around the- I don't like that either.

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I don't like freedom. We fought for it for very long. Come on, Ron. Everything okay today?

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What's a good word that we could use?

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I don't know. Here's the guy who has the dick, the encyclopedian.

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The what? The words of encyclopedian and addiction there.

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You tell me.

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Let's cruise around the NBA for a second. Let's Rolls-Royce around the NBA.

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That's how we got here on the boat. No, no, no.

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No, no.

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Give me a better word, Ron.

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Let's It works. Let's look around the NBA.

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Okay, okay, cool.

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Shaken if anything's problematic. No, no, we're good. We're in the clear.

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Okay, cool.

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Terry Rozier gets traded to the Miami Heat. Do you think he's breaking the shackles of enslavement in that situation?

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I'm happy for him. You see what I did? I'm happy for him, though. Charlotte to Miami, obviously, the culture there is top-notch. They produce some of the best products. I think he's going to thrive there. He's what they need, too young, a lot of energy. Can play a ball around, can make some tough shots, willing to take some tough shots, toughness. So I like for E.

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Yeah, the- And he's really in the play-off.

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He's tough in the play-off.

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He has comparable full numbers to Dame Lillard.

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Yeah, he's tough in the play-offs. He's tough, he's really good. He's tough.

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But he also had comments that the organization, the way that they put a precedence on winning in Miami is in stark contrast to how they do things in Charlotte. Do you think that that's a fair and accurate characterization? Do you think he should even be saying that?

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Everybody know he don't play. Everybody know that he does not play. I was coming up that thing, I was like, 'need pass, I need that. ' Yeah, that's when you know practice is real, when you got to put on those knee pads. They got a hamper full of knee pads before you walk on a court. Jersey's tucked in. Yeah, all that. They don't play. So everyone knows that. He's not wrong with saying that. It's a culture. I was happy to even get drafted and born inside that culture. That's probably why I got all my hard work. All that from was that he coached No, you did it on your own, bro.

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Don't say that.

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I got to get a lot of credit. Got to give him a lot of credit. Got to give him a lot of credit. Tina drafted me and paid me. First NBA team that paid me.

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That is love. But there are rumblings. I think Kendrick Perkins was suggesting that he get rid of Jimmy Butler because they're on a little seven-game losing streak.

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I told you, your wise man told you, I asked Manto, pair of lips are saying.

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I'm starting to understand the saying more and more. I feel like there's sometimes I have to reference You remind me what the saying means, and it lines things up for me. So Terry Rozier to that franchise, a nice replacement for Kyle Lowry, a little bit more youth to go along with their core, guys like Jaime Jaquez Jr, guys like Tyler Hero, Duncan Robinson, younger guys.

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Yeah, I like it. Where's Kyle Lowry going?

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I know he's a Philly guy, But I think that these new CBA rules are interesting because he can't sign with teams that have spent a certain amount of money this year. So it eliminates... Usually, a guy like him goes to, whatever, who are the top four The top two teams in either division? It's like he would just go automatically to the Celtics, go automatically to the Suns or something like that. But these are teams that have spent so much money that the way that the league is organized right now, he can't automatically just slide into one of these situations. So I think that he'll want to be on a playoff team. But some of these teams who have spent a ton of cash already. So who do you think it is? I don't know. I just said a bunch of nothing.

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Yeah, you got to make a move. It's a part of the NBA, baby. It's a part of the NBA.

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Maybe the Knicks?

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I don't know. But Cal, he's a good talent. He'll find his way on a really good team. He's a really good talent.

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Yeah. You like his playing style?

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Yeah, I just like his attitude. He's a winner. He's one. He's played them in huge games. I respect a person, bro.

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No, he could be a huge ass set to any team that he's on, I think.

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I don't know if you watch the podcast.

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Yeah, for sure. Doc to the Bucks.

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Doc to the Bucks.

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Was that a mutiny up there? Did they get rid of... I mean, they were 30 and 13 when they got rid of their coach. That's a good record.

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I know, but that's tough. That's when I'm like, Man, I want to coach. But then I look at something like that like, Man, I get fired, 30 and 13? But it's a player's league, so that goes.

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All kinds of stories are popping out that the coach was maybe guarding of his relationship. He had assistance that were brought in for Dame, and he didn't like... He was maybe a little bit insecure in his position. Do you think that there's any truth to that? Do you think coaches get insecure, too?

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No, I just think in the first year, I think as a first year, coach, you have to establish boundaries, right? You got to establish your culture, right? You can't please everybody. Because you start doing that, you have to please everybody all the time. So this is how I'm doing stuff. A lot of people love it. A lot of people like it. Everyone's not getting treated the same. Like stuff that other people can get it Get away with that other guys can't. That's it. That's what it is. We're not even going to speak about that. But yeah, this is my foundation. I ran my blueprint, and this is how it's going to be. You got to take control. I don't know the intel of what happened exactly in the situation. But once you tried, okay, please this person, please this person. Because the NBA is revolving door. You'll lose your start in two, three months to be the next player. You know what I'm saying? So that's just how the NBA is. So you got to have your blueprint, have your foundation based on what you believe in and how you want your team to go and go from there.

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Man, unfortunately.

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Unless you're Doc.

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Yeah, but they be on Doc. They be saying They say, Doc, we're losing a ton of games. They be on Doc. They say Doc be blowing a lot of three runs. But I respect a guy who, no matter what, a team always wants He's doing something right. I don't care what you say. There's a lot of coaches out there which they could be coaching the NBA, not just the Bucs, the Charlotte Horn, or the Detroit Pistons, any coach. There's plenty of coaches I see out here. I guarantee they wish they was coaching any team right now. You say what you want about that. Teams go get him for a reason.

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Well, I see the contracts. The Pistons are going out. I'd love to be coaching the Pistons. They're paying tons of money. I saw it. It's So wait, we didn't talk enough about your miced up coaching moment where you're coaching the pick and roll. Come on, let's go back to that.

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Yeah, because we coach the pick and roll, but we know Jamal Murray, he come off pick and roll. He like to dance a little bit. He like to get a little wild. He like to shoot as he pulls and stop rights and stay you down three. So in order to guard somebody like that, you got to make him retreat drip. And I was just letting the homie P. Reid know that's my dog, too. I love P. Reid. Hey, if anybody is watching this pod, hit P. Reid, record this. Tell P. Reid. I love P. Reid. I love his attitude. I love his background. I love his... Yeah, he going to be all right. I'm telling P. Reid, Hey, man, you got to make him retreat because you're not making him retreat. They at home, You at home, you at home, ain't really a shot that he ain't saying that he ain't like. So that was good. It was good. It was cool. It was cool. And you know me, I get miced up. I don't tell anybody because in my head up, I got miced up before and then throw my game off. The guys would be walking in the locker, I'm miced up, I'm miced up.

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Don't say nothing crazy. Me, I didn't say it. I didn't even let nobody know I was miced up. So I could still be me. I don't have to think about what I'm saying on the mic. So it turned out to be pretty good. I was just I was just in a moment. I was just, okay, cool. This is how we do it. This is how we go. So it wasn't even a planned thing either. So that was the beauty of it.

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So would you have done all of that if you weren't miced up?

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I don't know. I don't know. But that was just the I mean, I would have done it, yes. But the way I was saying it and how I came across quick like that, I don't know. Oh, you all miced up, or if I was unmiced up, that's the reason why I'm doing it. People might look at it different, too.

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But that was a great moment. I think that people are pushing for Pat Biv, the coach now.

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Yeah. I mean, I can one two-step a little bit. I know my way around a coaches box, too.

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Yeah.

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I took my first L this summer, though.

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When?

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Underarm. I had a little underarm. I took L, man. You did? The rain saved me, so I really didn't lose. You know what I mean? The rain saved me. It was wet. Kids couldn't finish. People, they're slipping, saying, Hey, we got to stop. He's got to protect the product. I'm that coach. Got to protect my kids. Got to protect my kids. Can't have my parents out here sitting. No, no, no. Game ain't going. Restart game. Restart game. No, no, no. New game. New game. So, yeah, it was cool. My first time as a coach, and they I'm trying to put rain on my boys. I have my boys slipping and falling, and they about to go to the NBA in a couple of years. So I thought the honor for that event, too.

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New game.

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Hey, I ain't going to lie, Ron.

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What up?

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When I learned about the McDonald's partnership and the hamburgerer character they used, first person I thought was you, bro. I ain't going to lie, you look just like a hamburger. You look just like him.

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Is that good? Why? You think I earned my stripes?

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Yeah, literally. But as I'm looking at him, now I'm looking at you, it's a lot of... I got a lot of comments.

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Closed-mouth smile.

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You got to...

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I need my mask.

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Hey, listen, you got to dress up as a hamburger.

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Hand burgler's got the mask on. He might be a freak, boy.

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Hey, listen, you got to dress up as the hamburger. You got to steal some sandwich.

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I have to steal some sandwiches, bro.

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You got to steal some burgers. You got to steal some burgers.

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Bro, I keep a burger in the tuck, dude. I have one on me at all times, dude.

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Hold on, I'm going to get it twisted. Hold on, you two. You two. How long?

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You two. No, I'm trapped, bro.

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Hold on, hold on. You know what they say, I'm double-breasted.

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You know it gets crucial with me, bro. Come on.

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Tell me something, then. All right, say last.

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Don't play with me, bro. Put those away.

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You got yours? Hold on, I'll put yours away. Okay. All right.

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You know what I mean? A little McDonald's standoff.

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Mcdonald's standoff, right?

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Yeah, it's just a little standoff. It does get ocular, but it is all-star season.

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It is. We're going to be there.

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For sure.

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For sure. Let everybody know we're live anyway. We will be at a All-Star.

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Who you got in that three-point shooting contest, though?

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I'm going Sabrina.

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You just played Steph. You just said Steph was Crodie. You just said he was your lawyer, bro.

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Fuck that. I'm going Sabrina.

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Damn. She can shoot it. There's something about female shooting fundamentals that are a little bit more sound.

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I'm going Sabrina.

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Yeah?

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Yes.

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By how many shots?

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I think it's going to be a hell of a game. I'm going Sabrina. I am.

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What about the bright lights, though?

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She's like... That's the thing. Women with the bright lights, they don't see that.

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They don't even- They're blind to it.

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They're blind. They just hoop. They're different. They hoop. They just hoop.

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We got to get Sabrina on pod.

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It's only right. It's only right. It's only right. It's only right.

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We need to.

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She can burn it. She can fucking burn it.

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Max, you're not starting in the game. Bullshit or no?

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Bullshit, but understand. Coming out here, understand. My thing is, No one from the number one team in the NBA is starting in the All-Star game. I understand some makeup of fans, media players. I understand that.

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So who do you think should be starting from that squad?

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Who should be starting? What are you talking about? The number one team in the NBA. I don't understand. I just don't understand that. And I know it's a mixture of votes, and I And I understand that, but this makes no sense. It makes no sense. They're literally the number one team. He's the best player on the team. That's coming off the bench. If I play 64 games and I average 50, I'm not the MVP. Another guy is who average 30 because he played one more game than me.

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Yeah, I think that this goes back to something that you said over the summer, that people in Minnesota took umbrage over. But I think this is what illustrates the point, not that he needs to get out of there, but there's less spotlight on how good Anthony Edwards is because of his scenario that he's in. And that's not fair. And we're trying to rectify that by beating the drum for a guy who should be an all-star starter, who could be the Easy.

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Like, easy.

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Maybe best guard in the league, honestly.

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Right. But you asked me the maxi question. Yes, but I understand it. I don't understand Anthony Edwards. I literally don't.

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Maxi's star is shining bright, though.

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We give media a lot of love. They got a lot of say so. Obviously, the fans make up the league, so you understand that. But we give the media a lot of love.

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Yeah, man. It makes you think that there's a plant up there in Minnesota that's not letting him be in the All-Star game or something. It's probably a plant. But then Maxi, number nine, selling Jersey in the league. Kind of sweet for him. Better selling a jersey than an Mbed, but I guess if you love Embiid, you probably have his Jersey already.

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I heard my jersey already. My jersey is in the store now.

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Yeah, because everybody wants it.

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I'd say, Pat, man, they got I got a couple of people, Jersey, that they got. They got a B, they got Max, and guess who else they got?

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That's sick.

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Patty MacBed.

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I need a sip of my Patty MacBed, bro.

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Oh. Can we have a sandwich called the Patty McBev?

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The Patty McBev would be sick. What would be on? I feel like it's one of those off-menu things.

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Is that a burger or something for a breakfast?

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Oh, that's a burger. A hundred %. Okay, just make it so you want to clear. Here's what I think it is, dude. I think... Let me float this. Let me float this.

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Okay, go ahead.

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You could deny it. The Patty McBev is a self-created off-menu thing where you get... It's a double cheeseburger, but one of the patties is a quarter-pounder Patty. One of them is a regular hamburger patty. So it's like a mixture of a quarter pounder and a regular cheeseburger in a double cheeseburger, the Patty McBev.

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No onions. No. Big man sauce.

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Big man sauce. Cut it in half. One for you, one for your loved one.

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Yeah. Show love.

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Show love. It's the Patty McBev way.

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Patty McBev. And we're going to get McDonald's chains. I got to get our McDonald's change. We're going to have a little fry.

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I'm getting the hamburger hat, bro. I'm going to be wearing the- You're in jail, bro.

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Relax, bro.

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Imagine if the jail... Oh, man.

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Relax.

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But shout out to Maxi. Slam cover. That was hard, huh? It looks incredible, yeah. That was hard. Yeah, it looks very iconic, honestly. He's really It's fun to watch it blossom.

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What the leg is over there doing? What they got going?

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Man, I feel like LeBron's tweeting out hourglasses.

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What's that mean?

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Who's it time for?

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What is it time for?

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Yeah. Is he talking about himself? Is he talking about someone else?

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I love it. I love it. What else? What else?

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Is it more fun being on the team or watching it from afar?

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I know. When I left, obviously, I They blame me. They blamed Russ. We're on some of the best teams in the NBA.

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I'm just saying. So who goes? Who gets traded from there?

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I don't know, man. Dilo playing. He hooping right now.

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But it seems like it's going to be him.

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Yeah, it starts to rise. You get a little bit more for him now. But I'm not no GM. I'm a player, but that's usually how it goes. I'm only about to lead a decade in some change.

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Pension. Get Tony Snow that pension.

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Straight up.

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And then what about the Dylan Brooks situation with him? And he's like, Dylan Brooks, punch me in my fucking head. That's wild.

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Listen, I get a tech for me and my ex-coach. Chauncey Biller was my developmental guy at the Clippers. I used to work out with Chauncey Biller. He's a coach on the Portland Trail, but I get tech.

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For what?

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We talking. You go to the ref, you go to the heck out of our plan. I messed up all that fucking crying. I lock your ass up. We just having fun, though. Player of a coach, but my big bro. Hey, man, you go to Roof Cribs, make sure you order that sweet potato cash flow. They give us a tech. They resented it. They sent the money back.

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They sent the money back?

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I got the I got a text this morning like, Yeah, you and the conversation between your coach, Chance to Build us, we resented the money back. You didn't get a tech.

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Did they rescind the free throw, though? Come on, bro. What did you hit them on the tech? Let's review the tech?

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So, yeah.

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What's the process like of them? Because I don't know, Ant just got fined for talking about the refs.

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You can't really talk about the refs, man. Even if you want to talk about the refs, you can't really talk about the refs. That's why you got to leave the referees alone. But they have a tough job, man. I know it's hard. I know it's hard. Everyone complaining, coaches complaining, other coaches complaining, players complaining, the bench is complaining, other players are complaining, other benches complaining. The fans are on you. You got a lot going on. You're still hearing me, too. He would kill the refs, literally. Talk to them. I know I say some wild shit, so have a tough job, man. Shout out to NBA refs, man.

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What's the wildest shit you ever said to the ref?

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A rep. Did you see that? See what, Pat? What do you mean see what, Pat? You know what the fuck I'm saying? Did you see that? You literally just hit my arm. Missed it. Sorry, I'm just trying to do my best job. Why you give me that proper ass answer? Talk to me like a human being. Because I'd be wanting to know. We want to know. What the fuck going on? But you also know I'm the guy who sends, okay, cool, rest. Oh, man, rest in I'll tell them to send a hotel, man, seven bottle of wine, make sure they're straight because I got a hard ass job. And I know when you're in that pressure in that moment, players say anything. But I always had a good relationship with the reps. My reps be the reps that nobody liked. I'm cool with Scott Foster. That's my dog. I love Scott. One thing I love about you, Pat, love about you, Scott Hugo. Call it how it is. I love it. I love Scott. I love Scott.

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You just had Tony. Tony fell into the crowd. That's my man.

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But I have good relationship with the reps. And if it's a rep that's never rep for me, I let them know, Hey, rep, before the game, listen, never rep for me. So I'm different. So I might say some shit. I'm a polarizing figure, so what I say might be...

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It's just my language. It's my love language. That's just how I talk. Luca, 73 points.

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What's up with homes? What they on?

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What do you mean? The fact they weren't playing defense?

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The fact that...

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I didn't know what you're talking about. I thought the fact that you were talking about they gave them a red carpet to the rim every time.

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Seventy-three at the Joe's goal. Seventy.

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That's four times in the last calendar year someone's had 70 points. That's unprecedented.

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Seventy?

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Is it the rule changes or why is this happening?

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I mean, it ain't a ton of free throws. It's the normal, I don't know, 15, 16 free throw. I think Luka shot 21 out of 23 that game, though. So that's 20 in free throws. But offensive skillset is getting better and better, bro. These bigger guys that can handle the ball, that could take contact, that can shoot the mid-range, that could shoot the three from deep, that can get to the free throw line. They're just bigger than everybody. They're thriving in the NBA. They are literally thriving in the NBA.

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You got to get 70, bro. Quit messing around, dude. You got to get 70. If Luka can do it, you could definitely- Let me go ahead and go grass 70.

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Imagine I grab 70, they still wouldn't believe me.

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Why is Pat Bep getting these calls? Hey, Bro, you've been passing, too.

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Yeah.

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That, these fucking bullets, like an inch over somebody's head finding somebody. Oups.

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Quick decision, guy, man. I've been in the vibe, but it's just... And I hate losing wrong. And man, playing well, losing, bro, man, I hate that shit, man. I hate it. I hate it, bro. Fucking hate it.

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I hate it. I could tell. It's super frustrating. I want to talk I want to talk to you about some Barstool stuff, but first I want to talk to you about body armor. Body Armor. Body Armor. You know that we got the body armor in the office at all times. I got the dragonberry fruit right here. But you know that they have-I didn't know they had available on Amazon. Oh, they're available not only on Amazon. Now they have these hydrations. There's electrolyte-rich ones that are incredible.

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I like stuff like that.

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Because people don't realize that if you're just having some water, you're not getting the same level of hydration as if you were getting electrolytes in your body. Somebody who's so into performance, somebody who's so into keeping Keeping your body protected, almost like there's an armor around it, you would definitely realize that you need to be hydrating.

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The cherry limeade, too.

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The cherry... Bro, I got the orange mango, bro. You know I have it with me at all times.

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And they got the Purple Passion, too. The Blue Bear.

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Is it the- Are you talking about the strawberry Banana? Or are you talking about the Orange Mango?

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I think the Blueberry one I'm talking about.

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Are you talking about dragon fruit barrier?

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That's the new one. That's the new one.

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Are you talking about the cherry lime?

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That's the one I like. That's it.

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See, because we have it all on us at all times. And they're all over. I mean, that's one of the best things about working at Barstool. You just walk over, you grab a body armor.

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Grab eight body armor, ran out.

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Sprinted into the street. What you mean? Right. Hydrated. But there's so many flavors.

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That's why the-. Straight up.

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The best athletes in the world are all using body armor, and it's available in stores nationwide. But you can head over to the Body Armor store on Amazon and get yours today. Body Armor, thanks for rocking with us. Now, can we talk about-Put the McDonald's thing at the bottom again, Tyler. Here we go. The Patty McBev. One regular hamburger patty, one quarter pounder patty, no onions, slice in half, melted cheese. Absolutely fantastic every single time.

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You got to watch out for my boy Ron, the hamburger running around in these streets.

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Snatch a hamburger right out from under you. Have you had an eye on any of this Barstool drama that's been going on all week?

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No. Informing, please.

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There's beef, and I'm not talking about the kind you find on a Big Mac, my friend.

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Or not on the grill, neither.

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Yeah. Oh, no. Nothing like you find on the grill. Nothing like you find the sizzling behind the counter of a McDonald's. But started off with Francis and Kelly Keegh's They had a show called Barstool Radio, and it got canceled by Dave. They got their show taken away. Basically, there was a guy named Ohio Tate who was saying that Bar Barstool, Francis and Barstool Kelly Keeghs, weren't doing enough in the Barstool world, and they needed to rouse it up. So they sent in a guy named Nate. Nate talked about it on Friday, and then this guy, Tate, talked about it, and then they refused to talk about it on the flagship show of Barstool. And I want to know who you stand with. Do you think they should- Dave. Dave?

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I always stand with Dave.

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So he knows what's going on?

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Yeah, he's been making the best decisions for So listen, so when Eric has stepped down, I hit Dave.

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Yeah.

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Dave, what's up, buddy? Heard you said I need a CEO, buddy. Why didn't you call me, buddy?

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Could have been a wee, we could have did it together.

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You know what I'm saying? Now CEO, buddy. Is that job available? Is it? Yeah, he gave me the nice curve down, but yeah.

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You don't want to do that shit, bro.

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Why not? I don't want to be CEO. What do you mean? What are you talking about?

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Because that's so much work. You have people calling you up. I'm not working. Yeah, but you have other job.

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So what? I'm going to take another one? You're talking about I'm American.

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All right. So let me get into The Other Beef because it's about two people you know The Other One. Okay. Mark Titus.

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Fuck that guy.

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And Marty Bush.

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That's my guy.

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That's whose side you're on?

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Marty. Hell, yeah. I'm a loyal friend.

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Without even hearing anything?

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You on Marty side.

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All right. I'm on Marty side.

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Fuck Mark Titus with me on three. One, two, three.

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Wait, why didn't you say it? You're trying to set me up. I said it twice already. No, this is a set up. This is a hamburgerer-style set up. This is a set up. One, two, three. Why are you saying it, bro?

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You're not a real brand. I'm up to it already.

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Damn. How many of us, bro? But Mark Titus is basically... He basically said, Fuck those guys about this whole show that Marty's on. He said, Fuck all those guys. He apologized. He walked it back a little bit. Not to Marty. Him and Marty still have beef, but it's over time slots. They just genuinely don't like each other down to their core. You already notified. Hanging out a window?

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Yeah. Who? You sound like Dutre again.

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No, I'll drive. I'll drive.

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One, two, three.

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Fuck, Mark Titus.

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Okay, thank you. Two, one. So you owe me one more.

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One, two. No, what is this? The fuck? He's going to appear in the mirror if I say it two more times, bro. This is fucked up, bro?

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All right, okay. So I take one there.

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No, I don't honestly feel that way. I don't really feel like, Fuck Mark Titus. But I do see from Marty's... Well, they don't like each other. When it comes down to it, it's like, these are two guys that are on my team at Barstool. I don't want them to not get along, but they just genuinely don't like each other. It goes back to when Marty was working here and one of his co-hosts went on Mark Titus' show. Mark Titus was calling Marty's show like a circus act type of thing. Then Marty came back and has had words. They didn't want to move their time slot around for Mark Titus before Titus had his show, and Marty had his show for five years there. But now Titus's show is doing better numbers. So it's a dick measuring contest, pissing contest. I just wanted to hear where your thoughts were, where you weighed in on it. Marty Bush.

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Yeah, I'm low key. I'm in the bush. Yeah, all right. Yeah, Marty.

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Oh, man. I love it.

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Marty from Ozark. Shit, let me stop.

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Oh, shit. Marty. Oh, we're floping birds now.

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That's it. That's it. That relax. Let me relax.

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Damn. This upcoming week, I'm going to be out at the Super Bowl.

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Who are you going for?

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I want the Chiefs to win. Okay. I want the Chiefs to win. How about you? Who do you choose? Nine. Why? On the count of three, let's say, Fuck the Niners, bro. You're riding with me or you're not. One, two, three. Fuck the Niners. Fuck the Niners. All right, cool.

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I'm a real friend. How many of us? Shout out to my guy, Trent Williams, though. Beast.

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That's your guy?

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My dog, H-Ti. When I was hurt, microfract, he let me work out in this gym. Behind nine scenes. Great trainer, trying to name Coup, ran everything. Shout out to Trent. Help me through the head. Shout out to Trent.

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He should be in the MVP conversation. I'm not lying.

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Mvp every year, though. Always. He's a good, genuine, great-hearted man.

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Straight He's great-hearted? I didn't know he was a great-hearted man.

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Great-hearted man.

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I feel the same way, but I think George Kittle is actually a great-hearted man. Their tight end over there. So it's tough. But at the same time, I think Patrick Mahomes, when you have the chance to witness- He got to get some heart.

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Right.

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When you have the chance to witness greatness, you want to be- 15.

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15, don't be losing.

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Yeah, he's incredible.

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I like to go for the underdog.

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You I think that Patrick... Huh?

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Trent. I'm going for Underdogs. It's Trent Williams.

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But no, they're favorite in the game.

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They are?

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Yeah.

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I'm not a betting man.

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Well, I'm going for the Underdog. 15. Pat Mahomes.

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You want to bet? Let's make a little wage on live so everybody know it's real.

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Five dollars.

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Five million dollars.

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Now you're talking my language, bro. That McDonald's money hits. That McDonald's money hits, we start betting different.

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We start betting all types of shit. We get to say it all types of shit. Bet, bet.

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You think that Mahomes has a chance to be better than braided all time?

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Yes. And Better is statistics and winning championships. I don't really see nobody stopping Patrick Mahomes. Even if he want to bet against him, he just always finds a way to get it done. He's like the new Steph Curry of the NFL, mixed with the athleticism of the LeBron James. And he has all the right reads, can make any throw. He's strong. He's a beast.

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And he has a killer mindset.

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And he has a great tight-end. It gives you Tom He got a crazy vibe, him and Grunt.

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Yeah, I think he was more physically gifted than Tom braided. I don't think anyone would argue with that.

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He was physically more gifted than a lot of people that's ever played the game at that position.

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I have pictures of him with shirt off, though. He looked a little... Well, I'll tell you what, he didn't look like how Pat Bave looked like with his shirt off because we just got this photoshoot done. Man, those pictures look good. Actually, they didn't even see the ones of you with pop-tops. That convertible.

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Sure, sure, sure. I got to go, Ron. I got a bus in like 10 minutes.

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Hey, that's been an hour already, so that's perfect. Pappev via con Dios, the Pappev pod with Ron, brought to you by McDonald's. We'll see you guys next week. But.