Good morning, millennials.

Welcome back to the toast and Happy Tuesday. Hope everybody's having a great day. Speaking of choosing and the girl, I.

Always choose your first choice.

It's ladies choice. Choice. Choice. I'm the ladies. It's Jax.

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Latter. De Lou on the ones and turning.

Lou is always on the ones and the twos.

So true. Happy Tuesday. Welcome back to the toast, everybody. I'm still coming down from my Disney high, and now I'm in a Disney content high. Like, last night, Olivia and I recorded a Disney podcast episode that was over 1 hour, recapping our time at Disney, answering everybody's questions. I think we got to everything. Like, everything that happened, every thought in my head, every question that people had. I think we covered the gamut. And so now I'm just, like, reliving the episode.

I haven't listened to it yet because Jackie put it up immediately. The people needed to know. Know the tea was. So I haven't been able to listen to it. But let me tell you, I've literally never been so excited to listen to something.

Oh, I'm so excited for you to listen to it. And actually, Zach Shapiro makes a cameo at the end because he felt like he was misrepresented on the toe. He called me, he wanted to clear his name. And so I said, liv, have him record an audio recording, speaking his faith, and I'll put it at the. He put out a statement at the end of the episode with his thoughts on Disney.

Okay, that's so funny. And he called me, too. Kind of like feeling as though we bemirched his good name on the episode of the toast. And I just want to say, the fact that he listens to the toast, like, obsessed.

Yeah. Everyone was kind of listening to the toast to see what we thought about Disney. It's such a thing. Disney. It's crazy.

It is a thing.

And having put 1ft into that world, it's hard to just toggle between two different worlds. One of a magical elk.

I mean, that's how Harry Potter felt.

And the other of a realistic elk.

I cannot wait to listen to that episode. And what's so exciting is that if you're a Patreon member, you'll obviously be able to listen to that recap with Olivia and Zach and Jackie. But tonight we're doing a special live podcast episode, which is something. Before Jackie moved back to New York and things got a little hectic, we used to do once a month. And then we totally forgot about it. And then the other day, we were like, wait, remember freaking Fred? Our iconic monthly live podcast on YouTube. And we're doing it again tonight. So 08:00 p.m. Eastern time. It's not too late if you want to become a Patreon member. Join live. You can comment live. We're all going to be like, just chilling, laughing, giggling, having a cocktail. It's going to be so much fun. I've missed these live episodes, and actually, I haven't done one for my new apartment.

Exciting. I'll be here in the studio. Live show. It's morning toast live show at 08:00 p.m. It's evening toast live show.

It's morning toast live. Also, I'm getting a haircut today at.

06:00 your hair looks like it just was cut.

Oh, thank you. It wasn't. I'm so sick of my hair. Which is why I'm getting a haircut that I did something different with it.

I was going to say, like, your hair looks different, so how are you sick of it? But that makes sense. It looks different because you're sick.

I Dyson air wrapped, which makes it shorter. I do feel like my hair is too long. That's why it looks like a little fresh today, but it will look much better tomorrow. And I think if you want to see the haircut like before everyone else sneak peek, you got to join the YouTube live podcast for the toast freaking Fred January episode. Never too late. Sign up@patreon.com slash the toast.

Yeah, it's never too late to become a patron because we'll always be there and we'll always be churning out new content. But it's time, like, the Patreon is popping. That's where it goes down in the Patreon. I feel like we're always on this show talking about things that happened on the Patreon. And if you want the whole 360 view of the toast, and you do, you got to be a patron. And you do, you don't want to just be looking at it two dimensionally.

Life is so much better in three.

D. Yeah, that's why we wore our 3d glasses for Mickey's Philhar magic.

Exactly.

Except I have to be honest, I hate 3d glass headaches. Movies like, oh, my God, Donald's, like, flying at my face, throwing pots and pans. Like, calm down, Donald.

Calm down, Donald.

He can't. And also, are you supposed to be able to understand what Donald is saying? You know how he talks like you're a duck.

He's like, you've got the wrong bitch. Like, I don't know. Sorry.

I'm not asking you. I'm asking the broader audience, the Broadians. Donald talks like. But he's saying stuff that's so good.

That was like a really good.

Classic Donald.

I think you are supposed to understand him now.

I don't think so because it's so unintelligible.

So maybe, seriously, he's supposed to represent nonverbal. There are kids who are nonverbal. And maybe that's his.

That's true.

That's his role.

I want to know if we're supposed to understand Donald, because if we, like, he's too difficult to decipher. And if we're not, it's like, well, why are we listening to nonsense?

Right.

And it's like, when you do understand him, he is saying things. So it's like nobody hears Donald. What about what Donald thinks?

I feel like Donald is literally in a prison of his own mind.

Yeah, but it's also nice for him because I feel like he gets to remove himself from Mickey and Mickey's ego and Mickey's narcissism, which, when I watched mouse clubhouse, like, it really is becoming crazy how Mickey is Kim Jong un.

Totally.

You know? But then when I went to Disney, I had an appreciation for Mickey and what I would instead call branding.

Right. Because let's not forget, he was the first bitch here. He invented this whole family. So let's just. Yes, he's definitely a diva egomaniac. Giving Victoria justice energy. Having said that, I do feel like he's earned the right.

Right. Like, what he's built is incredible. But when I watch incredible, it's even crazy when you watch the show, Mickey's ears are never, like, if he turns to the side, his ears are still facing the front. Like, he's never actually caught out where he's always two circles facing you. No matter if he had turned any degree.

I wonder what the symbolism is there.

Because it's like they are going so hard for the Mickey branding, the ears.

Yeah, you're right.

I mean, they're selling.

It works.

But then when you see Mickey at Disney World, his ears aren't like that. And he's a real boy too. And Mickey has feelings, too. It just really humanizes Mickey.

I get. Do I?

Do you really see him in a new light? Yeah, like, Mickey has a. Oh.

Wait, am I Mickey? Wait, Mickey does have a fuba Loki. And those pants are super unflattering.

Yeah, but it's humanizing. Yeah.

And is Mickey supposed to be, like, a child or a 97 year old man?

Mickey is an elder, not 97, but I would say Mickey is in his. That's weird. I guess so. And then also, Mickey and Minnie, brother and sister, are husband and wife.

So unclear. It's disgusting.

I think that they are husband and wife, but there's a lot of things that it could go either way. Like, in one of the books that we have, they have nieces and nephews. Morty and Ferdie and Millie.

Right.

And it's like they could be still the aunts and uncle from being brother and sister or by marriage. Okay.

No, they're definitely married. Because what are the ods that Mickey and Minnie, if they're siblings? They both don't have kids.

Oh, they have another. Oh, yeah. Who are the parents of 40 and Murdy and Millie? Mickey has a brother or sister. He acts like an only child.

He does act like an only child. And I don't know. We're going to need a family tree. Stop.

We are. But I'm sure one exists because the world of Disney, it doesn't happen by happenstance. Everything is very much tethered. It's so.

It's like. It's well thought out. And there definitely is, like, a Disney library where they have all the archives and there's definitely a family tree there.

Yeah, for sure.

I just can't believe we're in our Disney. We're talking about Disney era. I never thought we would be there. I'm kind of like a hater, but such is life. My life recently is just talking about and enjoying things like I used to make fun of, and I just need to get over it.

No, every day it's more and more with you, like the person that you are.

It's shocking, I know.

I'm glad that you're aware.

Yeah, of course.

I'm not blind, but the way 2020, you would clown on 2020 for you is wild, but 2020 for you is clowning on 2020.

Of course, Downton Abbey comes to mind. Which reminds me that I attempted again last night to watch the guilt at age season two, and I didn't realize. I've tried already. I think, like three times. I am only on episode two, and it's, like, unwatchable.

So it's not a good show. But we're so desperate for content of that elf that we all pretend like it is and we just accept. We all. No one wants to say to Julian fellows, like, you done messed up because it's Julian Fellows.

There are a lot of things wrong with the show, and I think the biggest one is, like, cynthia Nixon never should have been a part of that. Just, it's the least believable thing on the planet. I'm sorry. It's like, why is Miranda Hobbes cosplaying? It's just too.

And.

And I said this on the phone, and it's going to be a really honest and kind of mean thing to say. There is nobody on the show, boy or girl, who's, like, really beautiful or handsome, and they're all just kind of, like, average looking. And I don't know, I just want to watch a show of beautiful people.

That is something that's important to me when I watch a show. And there are some shows that come to mind that I had obstacles getting into because I didn't see the beauty.

Right. The screen is for the exceptionally beautiful. Right. And where are they?

Yeah. Especially when the storyline is about how one person is, like, captivating the town, and it's like, well, you have to be captivating then.

Yeah, no, and the acting is just bad. And it's like. It really is giving community theater.

Community theater. Even the set.

The set. That street, 61st street, like, fraudulent.

It's so fraudulent. I think the woman who's cast as the new money neighbor across the street is really one of the worst castings.

That's so funny.

I like her character, and I like her as an actress. But not together.

No. Not one person that I see on the screen, like, you could ever, ever make me believe actually is living in that time period. Except, weirdly, Mrs. Aster, she's so classic.

Yeah, no, it's community theater.

I'm officially giving up on the show.

Okay. Maybe you should watch the buccaneers.

Okay.

I think you would like it because it's, like, old timey vibes with, like, Gen Z attitude. It's like Bridgerton.

Last night, I also started to watch, maybe I was just having a night where I couldn't get into stuff, which happens all the time. I started to watch season two of the traders on Peacock because everybody's talking about it. And mostly I just wanted to watch it because my girl, Mercedes Chavez is on there, and she's just reality tv gold. Then I realized they had some other good cast members, especially mostly from Bravo. They had Phaedra, also another professional reality star, Tamra judge. But there were, like, a lot of people who I didn't know because they cast from, like, big brother, survivor, MTV's the challenge. And so, honestly, I knew less than half. I would say maybe I knew five characters and it was uninteresting and I turned it off.

And do they have any lay people on the show? No.

And it's weirdly hosted by Alan Cummings. And when I saw that, I was like, oh, he obviously just pre records in a studio and then is the host? No, they filmed at this palace in Scotland. It was actually really sick.

I've seen that.

And he's there, like there with them not doing the challenges but hosting involved. I wonder why he took that gig. It's so incongruous with everything we know about him.

I just feel like Alan Cummings, once you think you figured him out, he goes, swerves on you. Yeah.

I one time saw Alan Cumming riding a bike in the city, and I was like, oh, my God, that's Alan Cumming. I said it out loud because I was like, having the discovery, and he was like, it is Alan Cumming. And then just kept driving. It was actually like such a New York moment.

Classic Alan Cummings.

C-A-C-I imagine that was a hard last name to grow up with.

He seems to have persevered.

Yeah. How was I just having this conversation with I forget who, but it was like talking about how celebrities are kind of like, for the most part, and I mean traditional, not influencers or models, like, traditional celebrities who act or sing are for the most part, like geeks trapped in the bodies of extremely good looking people. Because when you think about it, they really all were like, theater nerds and they were never the popular kids. Then you see them in interviews and they're acting weird and everybody's like, this is weird. It's really not.

No, I think a lot of people realize that. That the actors and actresses are the theater kids from your class. But it's weird. Know, those aren't always the most beautiful people in the classroom, but then they all become beautiful in Hollywood.

Yeah, it's weird how like. Or maybe that's just the Hollywood magic is like, they only select the beautiful.

The beautiful theater.

Right, right.

That's a good point. Or I was going to know. A little money and connections can make anyone beautiful. Maybe we're all just ugly ducklings waiting to bloom.

I'm wearing a belt and it's like, literally making me physically ill. Goodbye.

Goodbye belt.

Good day.

Hey, look at my belt.

Good day, belt. Oh, my God. So much better.

Did you just want to show us your belt?

No. Actually, yes, I am wearing an Hermes belt. But I put the h in the back. It wasn't the vibe today, you're not.

Billie Eilish on the toilet that awards.

Show your mind is a sponge. Like, how do you remember?

Actually, I remember it because I was going to wear an outfit today, and I was like, have I worn this on the toast recently? And so I scrolled on our instagram to see if I wore it recently, and I did. And while I was scrolling, I saw a title called, hey, look at my belt. So your belt today reminded me of that. I'm going to share my trade secrets on that one. I don't have the best memory ever.

Also, it's worth noting that yesterday's episode might have been my favorite episode. I think I've watched the whole episode, like three times. I was cackling so hard. We were both being just so funny. And when it came to sports, now, of course, here I have to correct something we said.

Yes, Joe Burrows injured rock birdie is a rookie.

Like, seriously, you guys, shut up. We don't care. We know we're wrong. We're having fun. The thing is, for real. This show is for fun. So when you come in the comments with your fact checking energy, like, fuck off. Go do that. Like CNN, MSNBC. Like, not us. We're just having fun. Like, facts are just not important here. They're really not. Eat my ass.

No, they're really not. And I just want to say there weren't corrections. I wasn't saying Brock Purdy is underpaid.

No, by the way, we didn't say Brock Purdy is not a rookie. Like, we know, but seriously.

So he's underpaid because he's early on in the league. But I will always cite this as precedent. There was a player on the Cowboys who just woke up one day and decided he deserved to be paid. Was.

Know your words.

I forget which player was. It might have been like, Ezekiel Elliott was his name. And Zach and, like, would debate, should he get more money because he was a really good player. But the Cowboys had gone nowhere. Wait your turn, right? And actually Jerry paid him more, and then he continued to stink, and they've still gone nowhere. Now he's like, not even on the team. And so a few years later, I got to say to Zach, like, told you, good thing.

You're not holding on to it.

No, because it really was just like, we really disagreed. He really thought that he should get paid more. And I really thought, like, you need to earn your stripe.

No.

And finish out your contract. But in this situation, Brock Purdy has taken them to the conference championship. Now twice like, even before his contract is up, he deserves more money or a bonus.

Yeah, I agree with you.

Yeah. But in that situation, I just felt like the Cowboys hadn't done any. Yeah, maybe that one player was playing good, but the team didn't go anywhere for him to, like, even if Brock was playing really good, but they didn't win this past game. Or, no, no, raise, no dice. But two conference championships in a row.

Brock Purdy is the Jeremy Lynn of the NFL. Are you familiar with Lyn sanity?

Yes. For anyone who's not really tall.

No. Many, many years ago, the Knicks were know having a bad season again, and every single player was injured that they literally put on in the last five minutes of a game. A player who I don't even think was suited up. Like, his name was Jeremy Lyn. He went to Harvard, and he was probably the lowest paid NBA player of all time. And I don't think he ever set foot on the court in an actual game. They got so desperate, they threw him on. In the last five minutes, this kid scored a million points that the next game they started him, and they called it Lyn sanity. I think it was a series of, like, ten games where the Knicks did not lose, all because of Jeremy Lynn. Now, it eventually fizzled out, and he's, like, a decent player now, and he gets, like, good contracts on different teams. But the city was alive with Lyn Sanity. It really ushered in this crazy wave of fandom. And you know what? He deserved a bonus for that.

Right?

Yeah. I think I read somewhere he was making, like, $200,000.

Yeah. But typically, I'm like, you should finish out your contract. But I also think it's a case by case situation. If you're doing incredible, remarkable things.

Yeah.

You should get a bonus.

A merit based bonus. Who doesn't love that?

Yeah. Based on performance benchmarks.

Yes. And honestly, I. There are a lot of players, I think, on the 49 ers who are paid very well because a lot of the players there, this is what I was saying yesterday, have been on the team for like, five, six, seven years, and they've put in the work and they, I think, have really good salaries and looking around. It's not fair. I agree.

Yeah. Anyway, so those were the two, and Joe Burrow was injured. That's why they didn't go.

Just like the sports things. It's like either the people who comment on our sports commentary are girls who watch sports before, and they definitely feel territorial and they know more. And honestly, they're annoying as fuck, or it's like men being like, I just lost three brain cells, and it's like you didn't even have three to start with. Please.

Our sports video from yesterday clearly reached people outside of the toast, which is what it's designed to do. And thank you.

On TikTok, when something like that happens, they say, like, it reached the wrong side of TikTok.

No, I wouldn't even say it reached the wrong side, because we're putting out content and we're hoping that people outside of toasters will see it. That's the best case scenario. But some of those people are curmudgeons, and they bring their energy to the comment section, and you just have to learn to scroll past it.

They're like, oh, I guess anyone could have a podcast these days. Really? Not one that millions of people watch, ugly bitch.

No. But factually, yes, anyone can have a podcast. It's a beautiful medium that has democratized medium. Having a voice.

Yeah, no, that's kind of the beautiful part of the medium is the democracy.

Of it all that anybody can have one and the cream will rise.

Yeah. Love that, jacks.

So, yes, I called us the cream, or creme, by the way.

We are cream, you are curmudgeon. That's the new. Like, I am rubber and you are glue.

We are cream, you are curmudge.

Are we cream or are we creme? We're really cream.

Well, it depends if we're feeling french la.

It depends where we are.

Yeah. Which hemisphere?

We're constantly moving hemispheres. Constantly. It's kind of hard to keep up with us. Oh, also, I saw something on Twitter that was so not. No. A baseless rumor that the NFL and Kristen Yuscheck are apparently in talks to be working together for merchandise.

I saw that you sent me a tweet from, like, it was like, an NFL mill. I mean, I would hope so.

Yeah.

Where there's smoke, hopefully there's fire. That would make sense. Yeah. Fingers crossed. So now, I think, without further ado.

Yeah. Are we talking about the Oscar noms?

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Our first story, the 2024 Oscar nominations are here. Barbie Oppenheimer, all the movies among the nominees. So we'll talk about the nominees and we'll talk about the snubs.

Sounds good? Yeah, sure.

Best picture, the big category. Everything's nominated here. American fiction, Anatomy of a Fall, Barbie, the holdovers, killers of the Flower Moon, Maestro Oppenheimer, past lives, poor things, the zone of interest. By the way, it's worth mentioning that Oppenheimer led is leading with nominations, 13 nominations, followed by that Emma Stone movie, poor things, which has eleven. Wow. Killers of the Flower Moon has ten, even though Leo did not earn best actor nomination, even though his opposite Lily Gladstone got best actress and Robert De Niro got best supporting. So it was nominated for everything except for him. And Barbie scored eight nominations, even though Greta Gerwig didn't get best director and Margot Robbie didn't get best actress.

I really can't talk about the Barbie movie because the nut jobs come out. But I just want to say I saw the movie and actually I enjoyed my time at the theater. It's not an Oscar film. And so the fact that Ryan Gosling was nominated, like, I'm sorry. You're kidding. Not, it's not serious. And so, yes, I understand why people are mad because Greta Gerwig not getting nominated and Margot Robbie not getting nominated. If we're going to nominate someone from Barbie, like, it should be Greta Gerwig or Margot Robbie, it shouldn't be Ken. But I actually don't think the movie should be nominated. Like, when I put it up against the other films.

Yeah. Didn't see it, so I can't say. But it seems to be a non serious film.

No, I wouldn't say that. On its face, it's not serious, but there's a message. I know, I get it. But I just don't think it's of the caliber of an Oscar film because the Oscars have separated themselves from pretty much every other award show. They're very cinematic. They're very artsy. They're very fancy. They're very high brow.

Barbie was extremely commercial. Barbie was nominated for best adapted screenplay. So that is for Greta. So it's not like she was totally snubbed. And Margot Robbie is a producer, so if they win best picture, she is credited as a producer.

Her acting was actually really excellent.

Yeah, but it's like, you can't say Barbie was even snubbed because it has ten nominations. So it's like, okay, so it didn't get all twelve in every category. That's not a snubbing.

No, it's not. But the two women responsible for it don't get nominated. But Ryan does. And his character was.

Jackets are like, so.

His character was so stupid.

But I heard so many people that he was their favorite part of the movie.

Not me.

Not for you. But that was the consensus. So funny. That's like, what I have distilled from everything I've seen and heard. I thought Margot Riley was funnier, interesting. Like, for sure Marcus Ferreira got a best supporting actress.

Just, I really don't agree, but I really don't want to get into the whole Barbie thing. People become so unhinged.

Yeah. No, but I feel like most of these movies got nominated in every category. I don't know. I feel like oscars also just want to please everyone. They just don't want to be in trouble anymore.

No, that was, like, a lot of nominees that you just cited for best picture.

Yeah.

I feel like it used to be five.

What?

Feel like it used to be like five or six. Now it sounds like eight.

No, this is 510.

That is a lot.

Yeah.

It's giving.

We're all winners.

It's giving, we're all winners.

And then everyone can come to the awards show, but still only one has to win. So what do you think will be the movie at the Oscars? Like, last year was everything everywhere all at once.

I think it'll be Oppenheimer.

I think so, too, because I know based on nothing. Just based on vibes.

Based on vibes. And based on vibes like the other movies that are just as good or like giving poor things and killers of the flower moon. But I'm sorry, commercial success has to mean something. And the way people flocked to theaters to see Oppenheimer, the way it had such commercial success, that has to play a factor over, like an art film.

Yeah. While also being of the Oscars elk, I think for the Oscars Academy, they're like, great. These are the kind of movies that we like and people liked it, too. No brainer.

Yeah.

Yet somehow I'm sure they'll fumble the.

Yeah. Yeah.

Now for best actress, I like how.

Maestro just became a movie that gets nominated for all these awards when four people saw it.

No, Maestro was a movie that was made in order to get nominated. Bradley Cooper played this role so that he could be nominated for an Oscar.

Yeah.

It wasn't made to be seen because I don't think anyone saw it.

No. And it's so crazy because I'm the type of person who would see it.

No. And it's also so crazy because it's on Netflix. They couldn't make it easier.

Yeah. No, there's something going, like, the maestro thing is weird.

Maestro feels like an art movie that you can only go and see if you like. You go to the Sundance, but it's on Netflix.

No, it's weird. And I feel like he's doing a lot promo wise, like he brought his daughter to the thing, which he never does. And it was like, yeah, there was pictures, but nobody saw it. Still, nobody went to go to Netflix.

I don't know someone who's seen it. I haven't heard a review.

I haven't heard a whisper.

It's like an industry planned sort of movie that just gets made so that these people can get their oscar.

Nom Maestro is an industry plant. Yes, it is.

Best actress Annette Benning Niad Lily Gladstone killers of the flower moon Sandra hewler Anatomy of a fall Carrie Mulligan maestro Emma Stone, poor things. Who do you think?

Emma Stone.

Yeah. Best actor Bradley Cooper, maestro Coleman Domingo Rustin Paul Giamatti, the holdovers Chillian Murphy.

Killian. Killian.

Okay. Oppenheimer. Jeffrey Wright, american fiction, Bradley Cooper.

No, I'm kidding. Said nobody ever.

Killian, Killian. Yeah, give it to Killian. Best supporting actress, first nomination for Emily Blunt Oppenheimer. Oh, Danielle.

So happy for her.

Yeah. Danielle Brooks, the Color Purple, America Ferreira Barbie Jodie foster Niad Devine Joy Randolph, the holdovers.

I have no idea. But I love Danielle Brooks. She was my favorite in Argentina. Black. I don't know. I didn't see any of these movies, and I didn't see, like, hype for any of these particular performances either.

America Ferreira, you saw. Oh, you hyped her up, did you? Did you like her speech or you didn't?

You're trying to get me in trouble. But I did recall saying that everybody was fingering themselves to her monolog, and I actually thought her monolog was giving, like, pinterest board cringe millennial energy. I just. Please spare me the comments about Barbie movie. Like, I don't care.

We need to hide the word Barbie from our comment section. Brilliant.

They're going to spell it with two e's.

Barbie, be like a star for the.

Yeah, yeah, they know. You shouldn't have said it, Jackie.

Sorry. Lie.

Then they wouldn't know we won't do it.

Best supporting actor, Sterling K. Brown, american fiction, Robert De Niro, killers of the Flower moon. Robert Downey Jr. Oppenheimer, Ryan Gosling, Barbie, Mark Ruffalo. Poor things don't care.

Yeah.

Best director.

I feel like you don't have to keep going, actually. Are there any women directors in there?

I think there were three.

Oh, wow.

Or it's like three women directors in the movies that were nominated for movie of the year. But actually, I guess I could look at these names. These are not of the elk of women. Oh, wait, no. Justine, trite, anatomy of a fall. I think that's a woman.

So one out of.

Five.

So that's why Greta didn't get it. They're like, we check the box, girl. You're usually our box. Like, not that Greta Gerwig isn't deserving. That's not what I'm saying. That's why the oscars do it. They have to have one. God forbid they put.

Yeah, yeah.

I was not saying that Greta Gerwig only gets nominated to check a box. I was not saying do I think.

It depends on the movie?

No, she's super talented. Like, in all of her movies, make waves. Like Ladybird. She was nominated for. They love.

She is worthy little women.

Right? Oh, you know what? You know the craziest thing about me?

That we are not little women.

That we are huge readers who grew up in a family of four sisters who love timepieces, and we have never read little women or seen it.

Seen it. And it just came out.

No, well, it didn't just come out. I feel like.

No, they just did a new version. It's not like we have to go watch a movie from the would rather.

Think I'd rather watch an older one. Like, no offense, my little women doesn't include Timothy Chalani.

I feel like I just want to read the book and get the pure version.

I'm low key mad, though, because I watch friends and they spoil it in friends.

I feel like also that book we just read beautiful for your book club and Apollotano.

Yes. Where they say, I'm a Joe, I'm having a hello, beautiful. Wait, wait.

So don't spoil.

No. They say hello.

No, because whatever you're about.

I know.

Hello, beautiful was kind of like influenced a lot by little women. Like, I think the book itself and also the characters and they also identify with little women. And I feel like if I think about it too hard, I'll figure out whatever the thing is.

I won't say it, but yes, in the book it was like this cute thing all the sisters did when they were having a bad day. They would say, I'm having a blank day. I forget what sister it was. They like, I'm having like a Jackie day, essentially, or whoever the equivalent was. Now, I just want to reiterate one more time, I do think Greta Gerwig is a good movie director. I feel like people are going to come for me that I said she checks a box. That's not what I was saying.

I was saying, no, you say the Oscars like to check.

They do. And so they always like, oh, we are going to get in trouble if we don't give it to a woman. So they put Greta Gerwig. She is deserving.

But they never put like more than sure. I think you've made yourself clear. Okay. And if anyone still doesn't believe you or understand you, that's on them.

Great.

You've made it clear then. Other interesting categories would just be best original song.

Oh, yeah.

The fire inside from flamin'hot. I'm just Ken from Barbie. It never went away. American symphony song for my people. Killers of the flower moon. What was I made for Barbie?

Yeah. I don't know how they evaluate song of the year when it comes to, like, do they really care about how know outside of the movie enjoyed it like the Barbie song because that one became so popular. But maybe with their rigorous criteria for what qualifies as best song, maybe they think a different song was better for the, like, is it more about the movie? Is it about success?

I don't know. But does this mean that Ryan Gosling is singing at the Oscars?

Yes.

Wow.

I'm just Ken anywhere else, I'd be a ten. It's like a funny parody song. Is it Oscar worthy? That. I don't know.

I don't know, but I feel like he wouldn't want to perform at the Oscars.

No, he was in the Mickey Mouse clubhouse, kids.

Oh, that's true.

What was that thing called?

Mickey Mouse Clubhouse.

Yeah.

No, Mickey Mouse.

No. Mickey. What the hell?

Hold on.

No, I want to come to it on my own.

It might have been Mickey Mouse clubhouse.

Mickey's kids, mickey's house. It wasn't Mickey Mouse clubhouse. What was it called?

Mickey Mouse Club.

Mickey Mouse club, yes. So he definitely has stage presence.

That's true.

By the way, something we didn't talk about, and we're not the only ones, is that Justin Timberlake announced that he has a new song coming out. It's called selfish. And.

Yeah, well, I conducted a fun experiment because I said to Claudia, like, we have to see what my husband thinks to see if Justin Timberlake still has any fans. So I recorded a video. I was like, by the way, Babe. And I sent it to Claudia just like we were chuckling. I said, justin Timberlake has new music coming out. And he said, oh, I'm excited. I said, oh, you still like him? He said, yeah, he's like one of my favorites, you know that? And I was like, oh, okay, so you're going to listen. He was like, yeah, but did he.

Know that he had new music coming out, or did you break the information to him?

I'll have to rewatch the video, because.

If even a fan of his doesn't even know, no one cares. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, but my husband isn't so plugged into the music scene like he once was.

It's true. He's a father of two.

Yeah. No, but he used to be so into new music, new albums, and now he just listens to the music that he knows and loves. He doesn't go into new music.

I so feel that, by the way.

Yeah, I feel myself doing that, too.

New music is exhausting.

Yeah. I feel like you get to an age in life, like all people do, where you have your music. Like, you don't go out discovering new music. Like you listen to the classics.

Yeah. And that's like when you were a kid in the car with your parents, they were listening to their classics, and now you are in the car with your kid playing, and I'm like, can.

We listen to Luke Holmes?

Right. In a few years, the kids are going to want to be listening to whatever's hot.

Lil Yachty. Yeah.

No, I don't think it'll be Lil Yachty in a few years. It'll be, like, someone we don't know.

True. Someone who's, like six now right there.

Hannah Montana.

Yeah. I just feel like some of those new artists right now, they'll be having their legendary era in a few years, perhaps. Are you ready for our next story?

What number is it?

Two.

Yeah. Oh, my. Yeah.

Yeah. So Fia Vergara is talking about her split from Joe Manginello. She said that she didn't want to be an old mom, and that's really what it came down to. She said, my marriage broke up because my husband was younger. He wanted to have kids, and I didn't want to be an old mom. As a reminder, she is 51 and he is 47. She said, I feel it's not fair to the baby. She said, although she respects those who wish to welcome children later in life, the path is just not for her anymore. I had a son at 19 who is now 32, and I'm ready to be a grandmother, not a mother. I'm almost in menopause. It's the natural way of things. When my son becomes a dad, let him bring the baby to me for a while, and then I'll give it back to him and go on with my life. That's what I have to do.

I don't know if we knew that this was the case, but when we reported on their breakup, I think we said this. Either we knew it or we thought that maybe because he was younger, he wanted to have kids. So I feel like this is so weirdly healthy.

Yeah.

She's putting up her own boundaries. Like, having kids is not in the cards for her anymore. A, because of biology, but b, she's already a mom. That part of her life is over. But for him, it's like, if it's something that's really important to him, he shouldn't have to give that up either. So this is just, like, a really sad scenario because it wasn't like there was love lost or cheating.

No. Just like, people grow and change, and he grew into someone who wanted kids more and more. She also said that she thought the press was very respectful and nice of their breakup. She said, I thought they were going to invent more things and how it usually is, but it wasn't bad.

Okay, good. And that makes me happy that he has this new girlfriend who's around his same age, and she's pregnant. Right? Or did I make that up? I'm sorry.

No, I think we were saying, like, she will.

Oh, they are knocking boots.

Yeah. I don't know if yet, because I think he needs to decide if, like, oh, is this the mother of his children?

Yeah. I mean, I am available.

And Sophia now wants to just date someone who already has kids because she wants this to be an issue.

No, of course. This is so fair. And this is. How old is Joe Manginello?

47.

It's, like, so crazy. Biologically, even if they were the same exact age, 47, it's still not really an option for Sophia. And I'm sure she would feel the same way at 47 that she does at 51. It's only four years difference. It's just so crazy. Like, the difference how a man can have a baby whenever he just wants to. Like Robert De Niro.

Yeah, but also the fact that she already had a child and he didn't.

Yes. That plays a huge factor, too. Maybe if she.

When they got together, if she had never had a child, then earlier in their relationship, they would have. And then they would have got older. True. Together.

True. But earlier in their relationship, what was she, 47?

No, they've been together. They were married seven years.

Okay, so she would have been in her early forty s. No, she could have done it in her early forty s. Yeah, but it seems like she's the type of person who's not into the idea of having kids at what society would say traditionally older age. That's not something she's, like, for, right?

No, because she said it's not fair to the baby.

Yeah, but also, her perspective is just from somebody who had a baby at 19 was really young.

Yeah. And someone who did the newborn stage 30 years ago doesn't want to do it again.

No. Relatable. Relatable.

Yeah. No, I think this all just makes sense and is sad, and I hope everyone's doing well.

It does make me really sad, actually. I forget who I was just having this conversation with, but it was a friend of mine who's married and doesn't have children. And she was like, when we got married, we planned to have children, and then as years went on, we were both just, like, less and less into it. So they came to the conclusion together, which was like, oh, that's kind of ideal. Not everyone gets that this situation sucks.

It's the opposite.

It sucks.

Yeah. Growing apart.

Yeah.

Are you ready for our next story?

Yes.

Kim Kardashian becomes the Balenciaga brand ambassador after their campaign scandal. So she's all in with Balenciaga. Again. After reevaluating her relationship with the fashion house following its 2022 campaign scandal of inappropriate children posing with inappropriate objects, she is the new brand ambassador again. I could read the statement she put out. That's, like, boring and crappy. This fucking sucks.

Yeah. I mean, at this point, I just almost wish she never even left, because this is, to me, more spineless than just sticking it out. Like, sticking with your contract. You could have hidden behind the contract. This is just like, let me wait for it to die down. And it actually has not died down. I was really surprised to see all over my TikTok and stuff, people really being not even offended, but kind of grossed out.

Grossed out. I don't think it's died down. It hasn't for me. Like, for me, Balenciaga will be forever marred by this. Also, because there was no responsibility accepted. There were investigations. No investigations. No one was let loose from the company. Nothing changed. They kind of said, yeah, we did that shit.

It's so true. There was no falling out.

Yeah. The people who was responsible for this freakery, right? They're still there and working, so it's still the same. So, no, nothing's changed. So nothing's changed. For me. The last time I went shopping, the sale rack was all Balenciaga. I don't see people wearing Balenciaga. Really? In the day to day. I don't see people when they're doing fits, like posing on their instagram. Balenciaga.

Me neither. What are your thoughts on just a layperson who saved up to buy a Balenciaga bag many years ago. What are they doing?

Wear that shit.

Wear it, wear it.

I agree. If you own Balenciaga before all this, you should wear, you know, we can tell what's this season and what's. If you have a Balenciaga city bag. Yeah, you better fucking wear. That's what I'm talking about.

So many people. For years, that bag was like the it bag. So many people collected them and loved them and paid for them.

It's a great bag. Also, those mini bags with the bees on them are really cute, and I know already owned one. You should wear it.

I do wish I had purchased one before the strike.

Yeah. But now they're on sale.

I'll survive.

Also, just about people wearing the city bag. So now they put out these campaign photos. They have a few new brand ambassadors. Nicola Ann Pelt is also one of them, which to me is less shocking than Kim, because I feel like she's trying to break into the fashion industry. Oh, here's a side door that no one wants to walk through.

How about, like, I get. I get why. Although it is disappointing, this isn't a person who needs the work. Nicola Pelle.

Yeah, but in the photos, the new campaign photos, they're all wearing the Balenciaga city bags in, like, a large size. And in Kim's photo, it's like, in her closet. And all of the handbags on her shelf are balenciaga bags. But it feels like they're bringing back the city bag. And I feel like they're trying to get in on what we're saying, which is like, people will only wear vintage Balenciaga, so what's old is new again. And now it looks like we're part of the zeitgeist.

No, I saw that picture of Kim at the city bag. I was like, oh, I guess those bags are back. And they always had the mini ones, but they were never like their main recently, haven't been like their main stick, which for so many years. I feel like that's how I was introduced to the brand.

Yeah.

Okay. That Nicola Peltzing is like, is a bummer. I'm not going to lie. But I agree with you. I can wrap my head around the decision making more than I can. Kim. Kim is a person with access, unlimited access, unlimited resources, unlimited respect. Honestly, she can get invited to any fashion show. She is the person she always wanted to be. Like this obsession with the fashion world that she's had for a while, ever since they dissed her and wouldn't accept her until she was Kanye's wife. And the couch thing at the gala, it's been a journey, and I totally understand. I think a lot of it is rooted in insecurity and just wanting to prove people wrong. She talks about that all the time on the show, how she cares what people think and she wants to change people's minds about her. I get it. But at some point, and I also get being the type and she gets dragged a lot for being a person obsessed with success and money and accomplishments and stomping on other people and other things to get there. And I don't necessarily think all the time that's a bad thing, honestly.

I think that's sometimes a good part of a work ethic. This is an example of a person taking it so far and kind of.

Losing the plot beyond. I have to believe that there is a reason why she would enter into another campaign with them when she could literally be the face of any brand at this point. And she's choosing this one we need to know. She just needs to make it. What is it? Just tell us. And it's.

We understand.

Just tell us.

It can't be money.

It's not money because any brand would pay her more. A ton of money, and she has a ton of money. Like, it's not like she needs the money. So I don't think it's about money.

What is it?

It's something that we don't know.

I also think this just kind of further cements Kim really being in her flop era.

I thought she was emerging from it.

Because I thought she was, too.

Even for me. There were things that were exciting me. And now I'm taken back to this place of, like, what are you doing?

No. And now with the era's tour winding down, not in the anymore, you really couldn't focus on. No other celebrity could be having a moment except for Taylor in the last, like, eight months. But now that the Eris tour is going abroad and everyone's out every single week talking about four different stories, another Phoenix could rise. And so I also thought she was maybe coming out of the flop era, but this is really bad. Like, for real. Yeah.

And I think the show is coming back soon. Did we see a trailer for it?

Did we?

Or just my dreams?

No, I don't think we did.

Well, skin by Kim. Beauty is coming, right? Right.

She made, like, a bunch of waves recently, that TikTok. She was doing good.

And this. We're back. Square one.

It's so strange, especially because she's such. I feel like she's not this the type. She's not an unprincipled person. And what do we know that is important to her? Her family, her faith. These are things that are incongruous with the crimes of Balenciaga.

Yeah. No major flop. Yeah, but she knew it would be. So why did she do it? I need to know.

Because there's something being held.

She's got her reason. Something is being held against you.

She's being held against her will.

Like there's a blackmail. Set yourself free. Whatever it is, it can't be worse than this.

Actually, it makes you think it has to be worse than this.

I don't think it could be. Okay, are you ready for our next story? This one's number four.

No, I'm not. Thank you. I love that you've been doing that recently.

I know. You get frazzled and you kind of, like, lose, like, your. That's not what it is. In the map of the show, you get lost in where we are. No.

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Okay, our next story. Elon Musk makes a private visit to Auschwitz Birkenau ahead of an anti semitism symposium that he spoke on. He brought his son X.

Okay, I'm really sorry. I know this is an important story, but how did you just pronounce Auschwitz?

Auschwitz.

You said Auschwitz. Listen, not that it matters, but I feel like it's Auschwitz.

Auschwitz. Fine. Auschwitz. Auschwitz.

Auschre.

Anyways, Elon went to Auschwitz with X. What did I say?

This. Auschwitz.

Now I'm feeling self conscious.

You were just giving, like Stalin, like. Wait, no. Is Stalin german?

No, I was getting confused. You know who's German?

Hitler.

Yeah. Heil. Oh, yeah, our mics.

Our mic brand is. And I'm sure this brand is not affiliated with the Holocaust or Hitler in any way, but the name is Heil, which I feel like is a bad name for any company.

I actually don't have Heil because I stand against anti semitism.

Oh, is yours?

Yeah.

Oh, mine's heil. And I can't see it without thinking Heil.

Well, how could you?

No, also, Hitler has ruined a lot of things for me. Ovens. Like, really, you can't think about. I can't open an oven without thinking about it. Like, for real. He's ruined the word heil, obviously. But he's also ruined the number nine.

Nine. He's also ruined the word mine.

He's ruined the word comp, for sure.

But that's, like, not our word. That's his word.

He's ruined, like, the color red. Like, he's ruined a lot of things.

Yeah. He also ruined. He ruined european jewelry.

Oh, of course. I mean, duh. I was trying to be like, yeah, no, he did ruin that for sure. But also the g wagon.

Yeah. Anyways, back to the story at hand because it's a beautiful one. That's okay. La Elon made a private visit to Auschwitz, which is a death camp, the biggest one from the Holocaust, where over 1 million Jews were murdered. He took his son baby X, and he was part of an EJA European Jewish association delegation that went along.

I guess that's like UJA in Europe.

That's what I was thinking. EjA, for sure. I'm sure it's a wonderful organization, but they're not doing a good job because european Jews are constantly threatened, in trouble.

It's so true. But I do want to say I feel like a kind of regular part of jewish life in America is, like, when you turn about 18, you do one of these trips. There are many organizations. They're called, like, march of the living. We went with our school, and you visit different camps. Auschwitz is probably the most popular one to visit. One, because it's the biggest, and two, because it's really been made into, like, a museum. And they have tour guides and most of the buildings are still erect, and it's so fucking freaky. And there's just, like, probably the most records from that place because it was so big. And I feel like it should be mandatory for everyone. You turn 18, you go to the army. In some countries. Like, you should go to a concentration camp in America.

Yeah. So he spoke on this anti Semitism symposium with Ben Shapiro, but he spoke about how he still learned about the Holocaust, but it's very different, like, walking it and seeing it firsthand. He said that he's aspirationally jewish because most of his friends are jewish. He said two thirds of his friends are jewish, so he's jewish by association. We're happy to have you, elon that is so sweet. And I think that this is real allyship. Yeah.

I mean, there's been a huge conversation. A lot of people are like, claudia, jackie, why are you guys always talking about Elon? He's an anti semite.

He's not an me.

Wait, they had said, like, he responded to this tweet. So I looked. He did respond to a tweet that was like, a little, like, I wouldn't have said it that way.

No. And overly generalized and clumsy.

And so people were like, elon, the fuck is up with this tweet? And he was like, oh, you know what? I reread it. I'm sorry. Actually, I don't agree with that. I shouldn't have posted. So a lot of people were still calling him anti semitic, even though he reneged on what he. So, okay. But then he know, take a trip to, you know, where the biggest massacre since the Holocaust happened, visited all the kibutz, met with families, has spoken so much about anti semitism. He just now went to Poland to visit Auschwitz. Like, could we stop now? Like, for real? He's obviously not an anti semite. Like, seriously?

No, they can stop calling him an anti semite. You have to read past the headlines. They also like to cite that the formerly Twitter has seen a rise in anti Semitism. I mean, all social media has. Have you been on TikTok, as we've stated already before? But I guess we have to say it again. There's research and data that has come out of the most anti semitic platforms. X is not number one. It's not number two. No.

And it's, like, so fabulous that everybody has all this energy for anti Semitism. But I don't understand why it's solely when it relates to Elon Musk. And I know completely misdiagnosed. Elon Musk has made himself an enemy of the public because he's, like, a.

Renegade and he says, not the public of the media elite.

And he does things differently, and he says and does what he wants. And it's like, I wish people had all this energy for anti Semitism, like actual anti Semitism, as they do for Elon. Because the elon one, I looked into it. As a jew, I looked into it. I don't find this person who just visited Auschwitz Birkenau to be anti semitic. I don't. So it's like, okay, but let's keep that energy up for the others.

No, like, if you have all this energy for anti Semitism, let me show you a few things you can channel it towards.

If you have all this energy for anti Semitism, I've got a couple Instagram accounts that you should look through. It's so insane to, like. It's, like, enough already. For real.

No, it's foolish. But the thing is, people really fall for it, because even today, you'll see in comments people being like, elon's an anti semite. And it's like, really? No.

And we need to not, what's the word? Overuse the word anti semite. Because I do really believe when a lot of social movements happen, people get, like, a little, they start saying, like, well, this is anti semitic, and that's anti semitic, and sometimes it's not. And I don't want the word. I don't want the word to lose its meaning, which I think can happen in social media advocacy.

But there's no lack of anti semitism for you to be speaking up against. So if you want to bring your energy and stand with the Jews, let's start with October 7. How about that?

Yeah, I love that.

Anyway, someone who's at Auschwitz wearing a dog tag to bring the hostages home, and a yamaka and bringing his young son so he can also see what happened.

Don't be stupid. Like, for real, let's move on.

No, yeah, seriously, don't be stupid.

No, I understand. Maybe you read some things and you got convinced and you were trapped, but now let's look at the facts. You were wrong. I'll allow it. Let's move on.

Yeah. And I like to think of ourselves as, like, anti semitism watchdogs.

We are the posting police. You should see this group chat we have. It's like five of us, where we literally screenshot every single thing that's posted online that's even remotely similar or could be connected to anti Semitism. And we dissect that shit. We know who's anti semitic, and we know who's the group chat has officially decreed. Elon Musk is not an anti semite.

Yeah. And we'll always let you know on the show when someone's doing something or not doing something, someone's being accused of anti Semitism, or they're using anti Semitism to take, not about the further their cause. And the watchdogs. No, call off the dogs. Elon's not anti semite. In fact, he's an ally.

I would agree. And perhaps one of the most powerful we have. So we really need to stop.

Yeah, not we, you.

Yeah, sorry, could have been me.

Are you ready for our fifth and final story? Oh, my God.

Should I sing this song? It's kind of been a while, and I've been hearing cries for it. And I'm not just saying that so I can sing, I swear to God.

Sure. I'll never stop you from singing. Law.

It didn't sound like you were, like, so excited for me to sing.

No, sure. Because I'll never stop you from singing. Law, when have I ever stopped you from singing?

Okay, so ask me again if I'm ready for the final story.

Are you ready for the fifth and final story? Law?

The final story did the final story, but I know someone who is.

That's funny. Great minds. Yeah.

No, that's why we have to bring this talk back. It sparks creativity.

It does. That's just like, I want my dinner now. Which came because two Disney adults got married. And instead of paying for food and dinner, they paid for Mickey and Minnie to come. And now people are asking, like, do you understand why someone could do that?

Yeah, I want my dinner now. With such an Og inside toast joke that I actually didn't even remember what it was about until you just repeated it. But for anyone who's new here, we had reported on a story, I believe it was the fourth story, where these two Disney adults got married. And they really wanted, like, the big characters, the caricatures, to make an appearance at their wedding. But their budget really didn't allot for it, so they decided to forego food and instead use that money for Mickey and Minnie to arrive at their wedding and take pictures and interact with the guests. And people online were giving their thoughts, and I thought it was. I said, you know, if I was a guest, I want my dinner now. That's what I would say if I was a guest.

Now. Me, I don't know.

Oh, so now that you've witnessed the.

Magic, would you starve for Mickey?

But they didn't want their guests to starve. They wrote, they encouraged them. Please eat before.

Kind of like best of both worlds.

Yeah, because wedding food's never that good.

At least you got to meet Mick. There's something about the man, for sure. He's got something.

He's got Riz, he's got buddies. He's in magazines.

He makes more money than any. And that's the other thing about Mickey. He's wealthy.

He's kind of like the Carlisle Cullen of his world. He's been around for so long. He's got stocks since the early 19 hundreds.

Yeah. No, but he has parks, he has.

Shows, he's making moves, licensing deals.

He owns ESPN, right? Can give us our show, Claudia. That's who we need to suck up to.

Oh, my God. He also owns, like, desperate Housewives.

He's an amazing man. Yeah, of course, he's a little crazy. Who isn't, right?

Show me a genius that isn't our.

Fifth and final story. Rihanna fangirls over Natalie Portman. And vice versa at Paris fashion Week. So at Paris fashion Week, Rihanna and Natalie Portman ran into one another. Natalie Portman at first, fangirls over Rihanna because who wouldn't? But then Rihanna couldn't help but fangirl over Natalie herself ahead of the Christian Dior fashion show. So Rihanna gushed over Natalie just seconds after seeing her arrive at the hot couture show. She said, you are one of the hottest bitches in Hollywood forever. I know. She added that she's a fan of hers. She said, you do the most innocent look, and I'm like, ah. The compliment took Natalie aback as she revealed that she, in turn, was a huge fan of Rihanna. She told the singer that she might faint and black out after hearing the compliments.

That's actually really funny, because when I first saw this, I was like, how in the world does Rihanna even know, like, natalie Portman? But then Natalie Portman, like, is obviously classic actress, been around forever. But she's such a fashion it girly. She's the face of, I think, Dior perfume. Thank you. Oh, my God. Moron. And she has been for a while. She's like a real fashion it girl. And of course, Rihanna's, like, so fashiony and influential in the fashion world. So actually, I do believe that Rihanna kind of stands.

But what's so crazy is Natalie Portman one of the most beautiful women in Hollywood, et cetera, et cetera. When she's standing next to Rihanna, who is just, like, an icon, period, Natalie Portman looks like she works for. She's a stage hand. She looks like a regular person who's there to walk Rihanna into the show.

There are certain people who have that effect, and there are also certain people who, no matter who they're talking to, the person is going to be freaking out. And Rihanna is one of those people. Beyonce is one of those people. Taylor Swift is one of those people. Even if Taylor Swift was talking to the president, anyone would be on their knees. It's, like, really crazy. And Rihanna is one of those people, too, because Natalie Portman is a list for the last 20 years. She's really in an upper echelon of fame. And even Rihanna, she's dying.

But it makes you think as a celebrity, even if you're a list, there are people who will humble you. Thankfully for Natalie Portman, Rihanna was just as excited to meet her, and that was exciting. And excitement might excite her, but, like, you could think you're front row Dior, like, my shit don't stink. But then Rihanna walks in and it's like, oh, I'm not Rihanna.

All right, so who do you think is in that top, top tier?

Rihanna. Beyonce. Taylor Swift. Do you think there are any men for other men? Like David Beckham?

No, I don't think. No. Okay. The rock, like, at one point, like, Kobe Bryant was in that crew.

Okay. But I guess the Tom Brady.

I take the rock out.

I take the rock out, too. Tom Brady. Yeah. The goat.

Lebron. Lebron.

Finger up. You have to add Tom Brady.

I did. He's five.

Okay, then LeBron is six.

Yeah, LeBron. Because there are people who I feel like could have gotten to that success, and that's why I took out the rock. Or, like, I was going to say a rod, but they're both so commercial and they do so much. It's like, honestly, I don't even know if I want to meet you. It's like, too much.

Yeah. These people are like, yeah, deity.

Exactly. Like, spiritual.

Yeah. There's more for sure. I think six is a good place.

To sound off in the comments. Who do you think else do you think is in that upper echelon?

Yeah.

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