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So did you get to know. You're very welcome along to the Tumin Hector podcast with Lurita Blueish. I had an interesting experience during the week that I want to share with you now. Oh, I was in a country bar, a country bar where they mainly talk Irish. And I was talking to the barman and he is from the eastern side of the island of Ireland and he wouldn't have great Irish. And the same few lads are drinking in the bar every day, you know.

And I said to him, they're speaking Irish the whole time. Yeah. And he said, what do they be talking about like? And he says, why wouldn't have great Irish? But it's the same kind of stuff. Every day they talk about cattle, the talk about how many people are passing through the village and they talk about the weather. That's all they do. And it's the same stuff over and over and over again. And I was just thinking that, you know, when you when you're doing that, you're talking about the same stuff all the time.

It's kind of a limited type of conversation. It's familiar and it's comfortable, but it's kind of limited. And I started think back and I said, OK, now what would their conversations be like if they were able to bring up, like metaphysical subjects, if they were able to talk about deep psychological and spiritual issues? In the same way the talk about cattle and strangers in the village. And I was just wondering, like if one of them said to the other, uh, what do you make of the story of the loaves and fishes?

Like, what do you think that's over a pint of Guinness? Why do you think that's actually about? And I think I think those things are great, you know, but we don't do that because it's almost in as bad manners.

But I wanted to ask ye. Now that this is kind of a replica of people in a bar having the same types of conversations, what do you think the story of the loaves and fishes is about the Lord's service and blesses, such as where to start?

I'm not really sure, to be honest. I'd rather sit with the lads in the bar talking about the weather.

Well, you know, the story, the northern and. Yeah, right. So that they're up on the mountain and that the apostles said there's too many people we can't feed them. And Jesus said, well sure. What, what handy. And they said, well, there's there's two mackerel and there's bread. There's five loaves of bread, which is the got to 5000 people out there. And Jesus says, no problem to start handing stuff out.

And they handed the stuff out and every one of the 5000 got fed and there was stuff left over.

Do you think they caught more fish or did that just use the two mackerel?

Can you like you know, no, I reckon that.

But do you think that story is in any way interested? Not it's too highbrow for me, to be honest. I like the start of the story when you on about the island islands and a few lads talking about the weather.

No, I don't mean it's the story I told you. Interesting. I'm asking you, is the story of the loaves and fishes is interesting? Well, no, it wouldn't be. It's not going to be interesting if you're in an island and Vietnam at Loaves and Fishes because the boys don't want to talk about fishing on the island because they're all the done to me. I'm talking about the fishermen. The fishermen and mackerel come in in August in the annihilators.

There's millions of them. No, but do you think it wouldn't work on Inishmaan or in the sea? It is more because there's millions of mackerel that you can feed the whole country on mackerel for the month of September is not understandable. I'm trying to say I know what the laws in the fish are. Not in what you're trying to say, Tommy, is that what you're looking at is why are you looking at. Is it something that's inside us where we want to feed?

Feed.

Oh it's all about I'm, I'm cos I like to start that story. Yes. And I, you know I was in a bar and I texted him on that morning last week when I knew he was out there and I said to him, go down now to the pub at eleven, OK, there's six quick pints of Guinness because it'll put, it'll bend the rules on your walk home and you make evidence after be softer on the rules. And you did, didn't you?

But you have I see there's a bit of give and Hector Hector is at least.

Well, there's no given the meal at all, given that Hector is at least willing to approach the subject, you might want to go very far to grasp it, but you ever just a complete blanket?

I'm not even thinking about that because it's too much. It's too deep. And we're having a point you don't to talk about the loaves and fishes, you know, never mind men. I have an appointment, you know. Do you have no interest in the loaves and fishes is either happened or didn't happen. And I mean, there's no point in discussing it now. Like, that was about 5000 years ago or more.

Was it from the side or what? You mean more what? It's 20, 21. Yeah. Or twenty.

Twenty, twenty. But every year. I mean, when was it look, the reason we have the we live with the Christian calendar aid anno Domini. What is it. After death. After before Jesus and after Jesus. Yeah. B.C. God or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

Well I'm not surprised.

The Virgin Mary appeared in not email to put some manners on the strips of me. Oh well look. What was it like. What do you make of the crucifixion and resurrection.

What do you make of our lives in the audience.

Like what do you think it was Grace. Well done. Well, let's get down to the crux of the matter. I wouldn't like to be himself having to have vinegar on the sponge.

No, but I'm just I'm just, I guess, trying to introduce these topics into everyday conversation. So if I was taken into a taxi in Dublin and I said, can you bring me out to Donnybrook? Only there. No problem. No problem. And I just turned to him and I says, What do you reckon that the whole story of Jesus walking in the water is actually about that he put the radio on?

I think it could get you. Could you? I think people out there, we don't expand the conversation that we should could and should have. There are geniuses out there just waiting to talk. So Hector's mum worked in my mother gift shop in the church, the parochial bookshop, the people, you know, the parish bookshop told me wasn't born Raftopoulos. It's up on Ratti. Tell me not to give them all a replica of the church as a gift shop.

She wasn't selling scarves and muck and pottery, but she was selling crucifixes and rings and books.

And she ran a Christian gift. She ran the parochial bookshop in St Mary's and a very successful venture it was too.

So would she ever come home and say, I was reading a book today by as I read the spiritual connection with Saint Augustine, there's a what do you think that she read the book?

You know, she read the book. There's only one book she read and she read the book. Right. She read the book Inside Out Back Cover Children in the Attic. It was like these kids were trapped in an attic aircraft books.

She read the books. She was she was a shepherd at home while she was a fair reader of the Bible and a fair believer in the Bible and affair, she would take bits of the Bible and write it down on bits, a piece, a piece of paper and and leave us under your door, put them around the house. And I don't know, when mom passed away, I found a lot of them and I found a few little bits of paper in different books and different places where I think she knew I'd find them or somebody would find them.

And I've taken them with me to go away and have them, which is very, very nice. Wow. Yeah, very good. Yeah.

But she was a big she was a study of the Bible. So I can I just say that when Tommy would come to the house for a function, whether it's a communion or a christening, Tommy would always tell me always stray in about half an hour when we're just having the girl.

But the communion and it's three in the back door. And then an hour later, I'd be. An hour later, he'd be sitting in the corner of the function, the communion, the confirmation himself and my mother and all you could hear was ha ha ha talking and Sam sixth and John four to the fifth chance five, six days. And then it was just it was like, do you mind if I called you a thing from Tommy Deuteronomy?

And that time he would go, but why Deuteronomy if we go back to this and that it was like a convention. It was like one of those big Christian convert Catholic conventions. They were like two speakers getting ready to take the floor, engrossed for about five hours.

I'm fascinated by your mum reading the Bible around the house, like would she in the sitting room, which everyone I know she'd read at nighttime and morning time, but she would then write little pieces of paper and and little quotes and then she'd leave them stuck in between books.

And I love your neighbor and that kind of thing. Yeah. Just little things like, you know of it. I don't know how to explain. And I'll get one for you next week and I'll bring it to you here.

Have you any travels coming up? And we're halfway to something in Africa series in Africa who were through Sudan and Ethiopia and Kenya. And we came back I went away on the first week in February. We came back on the 12th of March. It was so funny.

It's five weeks on the road, five weeks. Normally we do about 12 weeks a year on the road for the last four, four years. Solid on this one.

Yeah. And did you find yourself settling in Africa like did you like after weekly in the rhythm of the continent like a year.

Yeah, it takes about I mean it it's slower if you think about faster if you think about me.

Roscoe and Evan flew on the 6th of February at Dublin, Istanbul. And then we got on another Turkish flight, Istanbul, Khartoum. I mean, every every image in your head of this Arabic Sahara, sub-Saharan Sudan, Muslim country. This is a massive country on the biggest countries in Africa. And we were flying into Khartoum. This is like all the images I see of Hezbollah and ISIS and Syria. I think of all those dilapidated buildings, this this old Muslim structure.

It's where the White Nile meets the Blue Nile. It is where the land, the creation. The Sudanese believe they're the first people of Africa as well. And then the Egyptians stole their ideas for pyramids. They had pyramids before them. But when we got there, we were in customs for about five hours. They were checking the serial numbers of cameras in on military equipment. And after some people were wearing masks, others weren't too. What pieces of paper from the government and check and cameras gone.

This what is this for? You know, I was just mad we finally got out.

And was there a level of hostility after or were they just curious, curious?

A little bit of hostility. Foreign news crew coming into journalists, what are you doing here? And what all these papers and we have all these journalist visas. Finally, we get out of the airport, we say we land there ten o'clock at night. We get to the airport at three o'clock in the morning with all our gear, like we have loads of flight cases and loads of equipment. And and we have to get that then and meet a driver for the first time.

And then we all throw it all into a van and then he takes us down the side streets and where it's all darkness. What's it like in the African night? And it sounds it's the heat. It's that, you know, the crickets, the grass. And then you go to a hotel or we went to a place called the Metropole. And it's a Greek guy who's been living in Sudan for thirty or forty years. He has this sort of BMB hotel, a place right in the heart of Khartoum.

And then you get into a room and there's a big air conditioned fan over it. And it's pretty basic. And there's a sort of it's basic stuff. The bed is clean. You try and sleep the first night you awake, then the next morning with the sounds of the city, you don't know where you are. And I open the shutters and walked out on the other side, a small little balcony, and it was like looking down at a bustling Muslim street.

And next minute, twelve o'clock, you hear, oh la la la, coming over loudspeakers. And Rusko then wakes up and we're outside looking around. The sun is blinding. It's 32 degrees and everyone is we're in a Muslim world and we're like, wow. And then cut eight days later when we leave. And we're almost like the feeling of we're leaving this great country, these great people, because all my stereotypes and all the images that I'm given in my head are gone because we had an absolutely amazing time in Sudan, in a country where you might be afraid that they're all they all look like the way they do and what we perceive people to be.

A lot of people think of terrorism when they see these two Sudanese Muslim and this world.

They live in what mighty great ancient people, a country that had just overthrown Bashir after 30 years of dictatorship. Seven million people camped outside the palace last year for 52 days to overthrow the dictator. Hundreds were killed and they finally got peace. And it's a new world in Sudan. And for us to make a show there, that's the reward part. And to make such good friends with the driver that at the end of his eight days with our driver, the guy who picked us up at that airport and we were all, well, this is.

To be like eight days later, I know, but his family, does he speak English? Yeah, a little bit of English I follow. What's up? You know, we we were swapping photos. We were giving him a big hug. And he was our friend and our ally and our our connection with their and a great girl called Naba, who brought us into our family and brought us to a mosque and introduced her to our uncle, who's a sheikh and who's a very powerful man and in the area and all the church.

And it was just an amazing Azle. Look at that. I'm very lucky that I can do these type of things. And it's mad. It is mad.

And tell me, did you ever get to a place like that and feel incredibly lonely or feel as if you were in the wrong part of the world at the wrong time and you should be at home going to train and missing the kids in the way and missing the listen that Gallaway culture when they were all babies and we used to head off for three months at a time when there was more, because we've been doing this show for 21 years. Yeah.

The travel show, it was easy when there were babies and when before they were babies. But now I have seen the 14 year old girl I come with you.

Can I not come with you? And I don't I comply. You come to Siberia, Mongolia, like it's not it's not as if you're standing by the pool for six or seven hours. It's pretty rough and rotten. Like Africa is a difficult country. If you want to do Africa properly, you have to be prepared to get into a house and drive a long shit dirt roads for nine hours. And it's everything you think it is. But it's so rewarding when you meet the people.

And I firmly believe and I've met loads of people tell me I'm a I love people. And I think that this world we have this planet, we have the people are what make it and the language makes it and costumes and cultures and everything that everything I feel when I go into a new country, I'm just so lucky that I've met some great people. And at the back of it all, people are people and they're fucking great when you meet them, no matter where they are, what color the world they are, what religion they have.

There's some really, really good people around the world. And then we should never underestimate that, that that's it. You know, this planet we're living on, it's people that make it and Mother Nature and people are the most important things on this planet. Tell us, was there ever a time where you felt under threat and you said, I got to get out of here, I'm in danger and you're in prison in Mexico or something? You know, that was a high security prison in Bolivia.

Yeah. Was there anywhere where you felt.

I know the only place I really ever in over nearly 100 countries that we've been to, the only place I felt I didn't like the vibe was years ago, about ten years ago. And while we were in Mexico City, Mexico City is now the most populated city in the world. I think it's bigger than Bombay. And there's 24 to 48 hours, 40 million people in Mexico. Everyone goes to Mexico to try and seek their fame and fortune. It's the level of poverty and just explosion of people.

It's just not able to deal with. Rudy Giuliani, the mayor of New York said after that, zero tolerance when he was put no shit in New York, he was sent down to try and get law and order into Mexico, into the city. But excuse me, we were staying on an area called the Zocalo, which is like Bay in Tiananmen Square. It's like er Square and go away.

And we were staying in a lovely five star old Mexican beautiful 400 year old hotel, open my shutters out onto the main plaza. I get the birds singing the flowers on my balcony, old world type marble. It was beautiful old Mexican world. But when I went out on the street and I walked across the road to get money out of the bank machine every night, a family would move in there just to sleep. The most beautiful children you've ever seen in the world, a simple farm of simple country.

Man and woman, and that because I speak long enough to speak Spanish as to where to from, and they said they moved to the city and every night that's where they slept. And like, I'm trying to step over the children to take out some money, to go to dinner and then they're gone. This is not right. So I didn't like that vibe there at all. But then when we went out on the main street all the time in Mexico, people were all, yeah, gringo, get their Zacky, get the Americano.

What are you doing here? American. What are you doing here, Gringo? Gath Zakiya There's just a vibe in Mexico where they just don't trust the white man. And would you travel alone then.

I just didn't like the vibe in Mexico. And I know Mexico's dodgy. This Mexico City is a dodgy city. We didn't feel Roscoe, when he holds up the camera, can have almost six sense around him when he's feeling the vibe. And we didn't like the vibes of people watching us in Mexico City, but we went out around the countryside to Mexico. It was brilliant, but that was just awareness.

And when they called you an American citizen, actually, I'm Irish. Oh, I turned around.

Go you. So your Londis makeup autarchic. Yes, I know. What the fuck I know.

Iris, when you go well, to that end, do they have any concept of Irishness? No, but they said after a while they go, hey, where do you speak Spanish like that?

And then all of a sudden language breaks down the barrier straight away where they have grown up with that, like Honduras, like Nicaragua, like all those countries have grown up with this animosity in a way of a way that America has meddled in all of those places is Stockett's big paws and foot into all of Central America and fucked it all up that are just that that whole thing and know you see it now, it's been glamorized and narcos and everything and the way, you know, Mexico and the cartels and all this, Mexico's really, really fucked up this moment.

Did you ever get attacked anywhere? No, we were very lucky. Torchwood, as I say, some of these people say to me, where's the mosques? Where's the most where's the most dangerous place you've ever been?

And I'd say to you, oh, yeah, let's say the Chebaa at three o'clock in the morning. Beautiful stories, Hektor.

Yeah, but that said, you know, that's where we are at the moment. It's at eight percent of Africa. We've done Sudan with Ethiopia. I leave you with this in Sudan, just outside Khartoum is the biggest camel market in the world. And I might be Dargon, even my producer. Go look what we have now. I found a guy who sells camels and I be going, yes, because it's no more than selling cattle at the market or whatever farm.

And so I said we're going to the biggest camel market in Africa. We drove out about twenty miles outside Khartoum and in the distance then, you know, you can see the state rebels. Yes. And then I can see camels.

And then I look to the left and as camels and Rothko's in the local boys this everywhere. This is a cameraman. This is a cameraman's dream. Yes. This is the camel mainstream go characteristics quick, which means get the tripod out with a boot and get Chewton.

He's taken and then we let him off because I know he's getting camels coming here next. There's these big telescopic yolks, you know, the telescopic things they use those things to use on building sites that go and the thing goes up, up, up, nanoscopic like a teleporter next. Might you see them going down and picking up the people? They're picking up the camels and the special thing and about forty feet in the air. And he's going back into Rothrock and they're leaving him down next.

He's coming down the ladder, going over to another camel, putting this undercarriage under the camels, the ropes on the side of God.

Who are you by the herd, which makes it Johnny to go. And the teleporter is lifting another camel up there. The five big camels are moving. The lorry are looking out like this going. Where are we going? They're off to Abu Dhabi. They've been sold to Abu Dhabi or Bahrain or somewhere. And there's camels everywhere. And then I said, this is paradise. So then can we speak to one of these guys next minute? I'm in the middle of all these boys and all their all their Arabic gear.

And they're all the Muslim determined the headbands and they're all their families, their camel farmers. I'm in the middle of them, my interpreter, and I'm gone. Can you ask them how many camels he's selling today and where he's from? He goes, Hector, this man has walked his camels six days and six nights to get here from this city in the east. Àngel unbelievable. And what's he hoping to get? Or he's hoping to get a two and a half thousand dollars per camel.

I staghorn. Oh, no, sorry. I don't want pesos, thousands of dollars. And I say I mean, he said he'd sell them all today and next month he's gone over and I can see them slapping hands and interchange and wads of cash move. And then they've done he's happy, comes back over to me. He goes after selling his old stock and the smartest thing I ever was to see them get up on the telly and can you camel?

Yeah. You can't come make lovely dog if you were determined. But again, those stories to be in a place to be in a place like that is just amazing. And what do they use? The fellow who's buying the camel?

Why is he going to use the camel farm?

It could be rason or they could be used as 10 kilos of meat and camel milk. Camel meat. Come on. Milk and camel racing. But the the. Market all over the Arab Emirates, all over Dubai, all over Bahrain, all over Abu Dhabi, all over Saudi Arabia, love their camels, Sudan, they hate their women.

But that Sudan is just outside Khartoum is the biggest camel market in the world. And there was that Irish boy in the middle of it all. Love it.

Did you get up on one last night? About four five five five five. Five hundred and fifty five five five sixty five seventy five. Saudi as a lovely camel hair born in the spring to homes.

Tell us about the when you arrive home. Right. And with the kids or your missus ever just kind of gathered at your feet at the fire and say, Dad, tell us a story from somewhere around the world.

Would it be like, no, my missus is very funny that when I come home, because for years we were going to Asia and places that I'd buy every bit of indigenous jewellery and a special wooden clogs from Colombia. And and and when you're when you're away like that, everything sounds so cool in mangoes.

This is made from the bottom of a wooden coffee tree here in Honduras. And this is a cloggers. These are sandals we've made to us. We're like, oh, dear class, they're brilliant. And we bargain them down for about four dollars, down to fifty cents. You rascal. You get what you want for your message. You give us prepares it all or that jewelry. Oh they are these these are made from special stones in. Oh yeah.

We'll take three of those as well. I used to come home with bags of stuff and she'd be like in the beginning the novelty was there.

Now she says if you ever come home with fucking shite shite from abroad. So now what we do is I just go, yeah, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in Heathrow on fuck Jhilmil. Oh, no, no, no new plane. OK, and then the other two lads going, oh yeah. Where are you not how was the trip. Where are you. I mean Heathrow. Why do you want to get another bottle of millionaire it aftershave isn't it.

Outlet. But in terms of it with the lads be curious for story. Not in a million years because at 14 and 16 it's Snapchat and for tonight they couldn't give a shit if their dad was out to. Do you know, if you're not in Africa before, I most identify as classic.

I have two dogs and I was up for the dog for a walk, I don't like taking the dog for a walk and have to have the money lead because I like to go to a field where you can or the bog road or a forest where you take the dog off the lead and he just runs off and does his own thing. And I'm not pulling them out of bushes or I'm not stopping them sniffing or spraying. He can do his own thing.

We just walk together but not tied together through the fur. And I, I find taken a dog on a lead. Stressful. It's not good for me. It's not good for the dog. Neither of us are happy, but the dog needed a walk, so I had to take him for a walk up the road to the day. And my wife says to me, as I was leaving the house, take this. And it was a little pouch with a plastic bag in it for me to pick up dog shit if the dog shat and I refused.

And I think it's I, I think it's one of the signifiers of. The corruption of. Humankind that we are now walking behind dogs, picking up their shit, and that just the most that you know what I mean? We used to be nomadic people following reindeer's hunting elephants. And now we're walkin after a labradoodle, picking up their shit, laughing at their dogs last night, you know.

Yes, I know. It's only a fact on your first day, Handy, Dandy and Walkerville here, Tom-Tom can be a member. You wouldn't wake me, Holwell. Yeah, I'm going to take a nap. Don't be a fool. You think you're a fool. And any time.

Any time I see somebody picking up dog shit, I make a point of told them and tell them that the dogs barking at you. You're a fool.

How is that the most awful thing to see? Well, I live in an apartment in Barcelona and it used to be a dog that like he'd do his shit outside my door. So, you know, because he liked you. Yeah, but that's an urban area. Why didn't I manage an urban area in an urban in an urban area?

We need to keep it clean. I'm not looking at the countryside. I'm not saying that when a dog shits on a pavement. Yes. You shouldn't clean it up wild. No, no, no. What I'm saying is there's something fundamentally wrong with the culture that would lead to that situation.

Now, of course, if you're a Hartford and a farmer and you know full well that at any stage junior upbringing, did you ever see father, mother, brother or sister, uncle and or neighbor picking up shit after a dog? Never know. Or where did the dog shit everywhere. Right? Well, not in the house like. No, no, but I mean, it's outside because humankind and animal kind were living in a kind of sympathy with one another.

You knew that the dog, wherever the dog shot it was going to be OK because you lived in an open space.

Yes. Right. So that's the way it should be. No, never. Like to me, it's like if people kept pet cows and took a cow for a walk in the problem and he does a big copart and the ridiculousness of seeing somebody trying to scoop that up would be obvious to everybody. Either the cow or the problem is in the wrong place. Yes, yes, yes. And I'm just saying we've become used to seeing people picking up the dogs and not used to seeing people pick up dog shit.

And I'm telling you, it's as abhorrent to me as seeing somebody cleaning up after a cow. It's a signifier that things have gone off the fuckin rails and. Did the dog have a shade up the road?

No, he didn't. And it wouldn't let him. It didn't slow down. You told him not, did you? I we didn't don't we didn't drop this. He tried to squat. I said no out. I just I picked up I had to run for the whole thing. I'm not here. Please. A little one.

No, keep moving.

Did you have them on the leaves. Yeah. Oh yeah. But I just to me they're kind of signifiers things aren't right. Yeah. You have a dog, Hector. I don't know. But I love the way the dogs we their territory. I really do. I really do appreciate how they mark there and I love that and I love on a different characters in that. I guess the first thing that dog can do is go out and they'll say.

County Claire Gary outsiderness six people in the house, he knows everything from the smell of the tires of a car. Isn't that magnificent?

You know, dog can smell six miles away. We can't even smell what's on in the kitchen. I can smell them. A dog and a dog. The powers of a dog. Yeah, yeah. You're right about the car, but he has no way of communicating that information.

That's the downfall. I know, but I didn't tell you this, dude. I mean, it's like a dog. A dog can smell a car. Do know from his eyes. Tell me when I said to him, that's the only way of communicating.

That's like when the first a bad accident and then he had to look at different letters on the keyboard, you know, in order to communicate with you.

Do you mean the dog is trapped in the dog like no dog knows, but he has no way of telling you what I believe.

It's his eyes if you look closely. And what I urge people to do is any dog people that have you a dog. Yeah.

What is what makes you to know he's sort of a collie sort of thing. And you live at the country. Yeah. Have you ever so did you ever pick up your dog dog, you know, because he's only like, what's his name. Sally. It's girl. She's a girl. She's half collie. She. Yeah. And she's a bit more of a farm dog I suppose. And if she old. No, she's young with you Walker.

Hmm.

OK, tell me this. What she got drive to your place to run around. Would you give her dry food or would you give she's put your feet up from the table.

She's not fond of the dry food. And my father sort of insists she insists she eats it, but he says she that dog doesn't have any appetite at all. She doesn't like what you're giving her. She likes the noises.

If she was but she got the right dog, she did anything.

Would she have like Coco Pops or something? And she probably like porridge, like ready break or something.

Honey slices of bananas. You raspberries, you blueberries. Yeah. And for lunch once you have done. Oh sugar sandwich.

OK, get me a chicken roll from Central fatalistically. All right. Well I wouldn't take too much Souters. I don't have a dog personally myself. It's home. We've always had a dog in our house.

I'd never give wet food to my dog. My dog eats dried nuts from the day he was. What kind of dog is he. Always a Jack Russell. He's a beast of a lad, that Muslim.

But it's all for born. Must be for a dog. No, I keep him hungry till 6:00 in the evening. I go, Are you hungry? And he goes, I know, but he of them. Yeah, he comes in, I give him he's emaciated.

I had a lovely cold dog food. He gets his food at six in the morning. A small little dog shouldn't feed overfeed them the more than feeding goldfish.

And that's the problem. People have a tank, a goldfish. So many goldfish die in this country every year by tanks coming into the house. Lovely days. And they don't even have a filter in them. And they get that lovely flakes and they go, sprinkle, sprinkle, sprinkle. Should the goldfish is they're gone. This is unbelievable. Goldfish is ill eat and eat and eat. Right. I had a goldfish and shit in the water. There's no filter it it poisons the water.

Goldfish gone but the goldfish once a day.

Tommy one flake one up and it peck at that list down again. But I mean you don't you feed the dog in the morning. No I don't think he's hungry in the morning. He's got a good. You don't think he's hungry. You don't think that. I don't think he's very good. He's a small dog and you look in his eyes and you go, he's not hungry. No, but I think I know. But he gets his treats now.

He does get these treats that call dentist sticks, the dentist, you know, the dental sticks. And he puts them between his two paws like that. And he's out. I give him one or two of them. He's a good lad. He gets a treat. He put them up there between the thing and he jumped down. And the dentist, he does like that. And then at six, he'll have as good food. He'll have a good meal.

He'll have a square meal about six o'clock. He's happy.

And my favorite time. Right. Not you don't give him dog bite quality quality. Right? Not now. I'd buy from a major agricultural. You get constipated with that stuff? No, he's pretty regular.

He did have a season or two very grass or that's a bad job.

And then they've got a view of the garden. Anyway, there was a cow be. Of course you have to be diligent and kind of your you know that even though the dog's eaten grass wasn't hungry.

No, he wasn't hungry and need licking the sides of cars that have not.

But I bet your neighbor's house needs their dog food. My dog is interesting. He's an interesting Jack. When we put out the washing and when it's a lovely day, a drying and the quilts are out on the pillowcases and the sheets and about nine hundred tracksuit bottoms on the boys, 75 Hugo Boss, boxer shorts, four hundred. And then my one pair of boxer shorts for Dad. Yeah, Brian Nichols for my wife. I have one T-shirt on the line.

Right. That, that nobody watches father's clothes anymore.

It's just nine hundred charities. Did you ever think about using one of the wife's tongues as a face mask and then do not mean that we should try one.

I will. What I mean, put the stringy bits around the back of your head.

But a lot of them, a lot of the difference in a tongue would be breathable. What my dog breathe when when I don't know what it is. And I think he's really smart. And this is go back to what you're saying. Ruckle will go up there. He'll be at the line. He'll see me at the line. And it's a lovely day. Dry and the sun and the wind and the waft of Lenore off the quilt covers all in more comfort.

Now, I wouldn't like one of them and and the sheets. And then I'll come back in and I look up the garden and I'll see them and it'll be stretched out underneath the sheets. It's just loving it. I think he loves the smell of the lying and the drying. And that is his favorite place in the garden. Yeah. Either that or he's just pure exhausted from not getting that. And the final thing I'll say about me getting some oxygen.

The final thing I'd say about the Jack Russell and this is to the Jack Russell lovers and their tens of thousands of Jack Russell lovers and millions all over the world, by the way. And I am happiest when I come in after having a couple of drinks and I have a chat with the dog.

I mean, I know. I love it. Sarah, I have to get in a taxi back at 20 minutes out of the city and a little bit possible. Stay for a wee half. They've been out in the rain and I love got them in the rubble by my come on, help me do a wee wee and I'll go up the garden and a lovely moonlit night. I say, Tom hamburger, we we together and he'll just look at me.

I'm again I know he's talking to me and I'll just find a nice patch and it'll be spray and I'll get that poodle sound. Oh it's the rock. Oh. Then we'll come up beside me right beside me said do you baby for daddy. And it looked like he lift the leg and the two of us and we do the same and I go, Isn't this beautiful. Out in the air. The two lad, two boys. And then I go, Come on.

And he'll come back in and then I'll give him another little treat and say goodnight.

Ruckle, you keep it down. I'm not about to start. Oh, this show has a sponsor and sponsors. Name it. No TV, no TV. Oh, for me, the best shows in the world. You see, entertainment and sky cinema has football practice. Go to my doorstep. I know you might like it on a home box. Set up your favourite series. Drop the kids in front of the TV, put on your mind.

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So did you get to know. So it need a little bit of help. I was watching something on the television the other night and it was about a sectarian no, don't eat fish, is it? Yes, that's right. But it was a religion or the Episcopalians. Yes, we were watching it was about aliens. And I said, oh, aren't they the people that don't eat fish?

Yeah, no, no, no. They're they're I don't know the I don't know Larita. You don't know what they know.

There are. There are. But there are. They are Protestant kind of. There's a lot of different Protestant churches and up north as well. It's funny. You can start your own church. Yeah. You know, it's kind of like a Baptist church. A new Baptist church. Yeah.

But you can you can be a member of you could be an Episcopalian or whatever it is, and you can start your own church. It's not like Catholicism where the parish Shabaan and the parish is for. Yeah. And you get it.

Parish has a priest in North and in the Protestant ones you could say, OK, well I've got a degree in divinity or you know, and I want to start a church and you get a building and you turn it into a church and you would have you would start preaching every Sunday in Paisley created totally.

But, you know, you'd have fellows doing it and there wouldn't be more than three or four people turning up.

And then they get they get hired. Then if there's no one going to your church, you can become kind of a tramp and go to a preacher and you could kind of you could be paid. I'm talking this week in North Antrim and I'm talking next week in South Antrim and talking back to North Antrim. And then I'm after down and what it means.

But they earn money that way. So it's a whole other different way of doing it. You know, it's a real American thing, isn't it? The other way around.

The American thing is a Northern Irish thing. There's Protestantism is the root of so many Splinter's. There's so nobody was going to say was that that the the way the reason it is the way it is in America is from is from Scotland, really.

And Protestants. From the Protestants. I think it was a Protestant splintered away from the Catholic Church initially. Yes.

Yeah. And there was a bolt of maybe they were right, too, because they were not what there were.

They wanted to get married in the know. Well, that was part of it.

The part was that they thought Catholicism had become too corrupt with imagery and flowery ness and statues. The Protestants are all going to cut back. Jesus said have no what is it? Don't make an image of God or something like that. So I think they call it idolatry. And the so if you go to a Protestant church now, the Catholic Church, to me, the Catholics are like the Hindus right there. My Hindus are mad collars and elephants and flowers and all types of gods and ceremonies and where Catholics are like that, all different communion confirmation of Palm Sunday.

Yeah, all of the type of stuff. But the Protestants are like strict Muslims. It's like cut right back to the purity of the thing, right back to, you know, they've gone to a Protestant church that just fuck all in it. Like some of them don't like statues in. Some of them don't want sing in the bare bones at the church, not on the wall.

And you can have you can have a Baptist. You can have and you can have. You can have millions. And that's why. You say, Tommy, there is so many of them, especially down south in America, you could have a rural part of Alabama where there could be seven different Protestant churches, all with different names on them doing different things in there. And it was all because of her Protestantism came from Europe and Scotland on a boat load.

Tell me what you like. You'd be a good preacher now at the church. Be Tommy, my church would be to create your own. Would you be in a community center, a prefab? It would be the Church of the Risen Fool.

Right. That would be my church. And what would your what would the nature of your preaching would you allow? I said my nature, my patron would be. If it's not funny, it's not right. Would you allow statues? I'd insist on them. Would you allow singing? Oh, I'd would. I would like to do it. I'd like to be like the American guys who are on the stage and have a choir. Yeah. Beautiful women behind them.

And they're like and they're clapping and swinging. And there's a fella on the harmonium and there's women standing up and they're shaking. Their snake's fallen out of people's trousers. There's elephants banging on the door again. Elephant jazz musicians, I know, yeah, pretend to be you killed, that takes us right back to Andy Farrell in Martynov, and he was the first preacher I ever came across, and my instinct was to contradict him.

You know you know, you can think you could be where people are vulnerable to preachers. You know, I think people are looking for something. They go to these people. You can manipulate people very easily in these in places like this. Like you could create a church now. Right.

And you could look you see the American documentary miniseries. Would you ever go to the religious section of your skybox? Oh, no. You should try it and just scroll down through God, TV, Faith TV. And, you know, some of the Africans are great, right? The Africans were watching not just me.

I said I will not ours. My brother said to me, you do not go there because the got to say, I thought, it's awful crack and they're sincere. And then you turn on the Americans and there's this little slavin of a fellow.

That's what I'm talking about. The millionaire, the comb over and the sneaky mustache going to the Lord. And he's there and he's holding up a dishcloth with the picture of Jerusalem on it. And he's gone. I only have three hundred of these left specially made details of the picture of Jerusalem. And if you click the button right now, if you send me, it's only three hundred dollars.

And then in the front row, who's in the front row? These are these are people in in a studio. This is a QVC studio, you know, and what they do is a you can they're all very pro-Israel as well, you know, so they can go, you know, because Israel is the Holy Land, you know. So there is a connection there between evangelicals and the Israeli state as well, which is kind of it's an odd mix, but you don't get a good feeling coming after you get very sincere, brilliant Christians every now and again on the the great guy called T.D. Jakes.

And he has a show called The Potter's Wheel. And he's he's a fantastic preacher. He's a black guy. And he's just he gives people advice.

And I was talking to my wife and I said, what are you crazy? What are you, crazy? And then he goes out and I I'm crazy, too, but not crazy. Can't fix your crazy. You got to fix your crazy yourself. That's right. WOMAN Take care of that. You got I got rising capital and I'm crazy about other either you're crazy. See, I'm like, damn well that's good.

His name is T.D. Jakes. We love to follow him on the potter's fatigues.

Yeah, he's yeah. But he's sincere and he speaks in the speak and what he's talking to them like they want. That's the way they want to go.

We all become very vulnerable as like a society, like we believe anything now. We don't think for it. We're not very independent thinkers anymore. We we just follow the in what sense? Not the three of us set up a religious channel, not a religious channel.

But if we wanted to sell, we're setting up a podcast anyway. But if we wanted to, it's no, it's not vulnerability. I don't think it is. People just I think ours people are very similar to that. I think I think we will be teary. Had Irish people are Americans, they would like. Oh, yeah. I mean, soft stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

We went over there and we the big boys, the big Pasteur's like these churches, some of the big churches in the south especially you could fit ten thousand 5000. And these are bigger moneymaking.

They're not preaching religion. One-Horse Town. I was in Houston and Texas doing some stand up comedy. Could have been the year of 2000 for the winter 2005.

And I went to Joel Osteen. Oh yeah, the beast. Now he's here. He would be the Michael Jordan of God, the Wayne Rooney of it.

Yeah, he's on he's got a lot of money. So what they did was he's a preacher.

Yeah. And he set up his own church, already took over his father's church or something like that. And they're so successful that they bought the stadium where the Houston Rockets used to play basketball.

They have services, I think, four or five times a week and on a Sunday. Or a Saturday night, you could have 25, 40000 people stop at it in it. So I went down and we were at eight o'clock mass on a Saturday night. I mean, phenomenal.

And he's there's a we went to the mass and I wouldn't even call it a mass. It's kind of like there's a ceremony of some sort.

There's a waterfall based on the election with the two fish and the five loaves is thinking they're doing great.

Yeah, they have a waterfall on stage. They have a beautiful band and, you know, long haired guy playing guitar and all that type of stuff. And I was there watching it. And what struck me about it was it's very sincere. And these people have good intentions and they're holding up the Bible at the very beginning. This I swear by this book, I will do my best for myself. I will do the best for my family. I will do the best for my community.

I want to be a loving servant of God and feel sincere, like it's really hard stuff. But what struck me was we asked for permission to film and we'd ask for permission to meet Joel afterwards. And they said, yeah, sure, no problem. And I guess they did it because they had hoped they had heard we were from Ireland so far that they had hoped to come over to Ireland, maybe set up a branch of the church over here.

So that's why they agreed to the filming. But what struck me about it was to me, Jesus was all about the stories. Do you mean that no matter how odd or weird or that there was room for you in his in his church, you think of how he the different people he hung around with, like, you know, or broken people or people who didn't fit in. And he's telling people, Jesus telling people, don't let society decide your values.

You know, you got to think kind of beyond your societal norms. He's hanging out with tax collectors and prostitutes and drunkards and he's you know, he's he Jesus. Peter was the first pope, wasn't he? And Peter was the fellow who denied Christ two times before the cockroaches. He's picking people who are vulnerable and have weaknesses. He says these are the people, a smart move, but these are the people that are kind of the foundation of my church.

It's not a strong it's not the amazin. It's the weak and the vulnerable. So I'm there in this church and there's a black kid there and he has autism and he's walking up and down the aisle, you know, and he's shouting at people and his waving his hands up in the air. And the guy who is acting as the go between between myself and Joel didn't want him found and pushed him to the side because he wasn't given the proper image of the church.

Yeah. You know, and that's what struck me that, you know, that said, OK, with this, does this really isn't marketing behind it all. But this isn't about the destress. This is about helping you.

You went right into the big boy. He is the big boy over there.

It's mad, isn't it? So, yeah.

Yeah, I was down with the relations there and clear two Sundays ago and it was a lovely day.

E clear in our Westco in the heart of the middle class washin.

Oh yeah. Different different temperaments and different parts like w Clara kind of glamours Slessor er vibe.

Willie Clancy surfin. Yeah. Maybe Hibi Zvonimir like smeller peculiar oil. Yes. E Clare e Clare. Been at war with TYP all the time. I just farm and down the line. That's my turf land there. Yeah. East is not a bit of water, but Martin Hayes in fairness comes from Tom No wild openheartedness. Golway Yeah.

Yeah. The fire department to be clear. Yeah but Scarra Tuscarora in those places, Corvin is Korovin and Clare is close to coffins as seven coffins in the country. Yeah. This is crushin. They hadn't want a senior Harlen title until about nine years. Elhanan Oh yeah.

So this is the middle class. Yeah. Yes. That's what the vice there. I'll tell you the vibe of it. You come off, you go on the motorway past got yeah. For about 11 miles. The bar straddles. Yeah. To the right and to the left. As you know you're coming to crushin, you look to the left just before the flyover for Koshin and they get off the road there is a little mound with about 60 Toye geese on it.

That's right.

And a lot of our listeners would know that in the same way they'd know the strange kind of druids outside Tullamore that are made of stainless steel, you know, or on the outskirts of Cork.

Yes, just on the left is about a 40 or 50 toyi geese and your man has flags and everything is a shrine to Koshin. I talked, I turned off that went it went to relations house was a Sunday. The boys were down there from the night before I walked in the I a last for. Oh yeah. The brother and a sister and I were just there in the pyjamas. What time of the day is this. This twelve o'clock.

It was a. Cocooning session was a cocooning, we were allowed visit, so we had a lovely morning and there were ashes. You get fed the rashes and the sausages were on and the fried eggs then made clear, good, oh, I wouldn't have thought I'd have sold.

And bread, soda, bread, homemade, homemade grave city.

How we led all the brothers all in such a place like that do great but shit coffee or they would never get coffee instead of having a coffee down. Now you wouldn't have to tell me Tyrannosaurs were despicable for your it was a seven year old to the night. There was a five year old who was a nine year old who got three, four, five, six. And I said I said to me, brother, not me.

I said, what are we doing for the day when we go to lunch? And he said, No, I'm not going to lunch. I says, I like that. He said, why be full of tourists? And they'd be packed up there. And he said, You're right, I'm fed up going to lunch. Let's do something different. I said, Is there anywhere we can go for a walk, the plaza on the motorway for your lunch at all?

But he says, we got a lot more and I'd never been so cut. A long story short, you don't. We all went off. We all went up and we had a lovely day, and now General Motors is the place where they had that Macklemore is the side of the button on the left hand side of the bar in there and over the back of Dobra and Boston and look up to the mountain. They were going to have the interpretive center destroyed, 15, 20 years worth of shenanigans to his board with lots going round and odds and tight and no bonfires and saying you're not putting any interpretive center in here.

It was like Klu Klux Klan, basically stuff going on. You won't put that in here.

You won't put that interpretive center in our mountain, which is why when you drive up to mullock and that would be a kind of that would be an issue that the Klu Klux Klan would normally be in with. You know what I mean, a lot of them, a lot of the Klu Klux Klan, what we know is mainly racist, but they're also hard left faction that is against interpretive center. Yes, I heard about that. They're just dead against.

I think they're right. There was just when they set against something happening in their community on with the sheets, the two little got out.

There'll be no copper line the up on their head.

It was there were very let's just say they were very irate and there was a lot of stuff going on. There was a lot of people in. Yeah, well, Bill can't park near this place, so I drove up to it now and there's no parking spaces.

So we walk the mountain and it was lovely and we did great and we took photographs and it was a lovely day. It's a mountain.

It's a mountain. The question, why would you need an interpretive center there? Like what?

Today is the morning the cliffs of Moore, after putting in the gift shops and diddly diddly in putting it all and the thing on the left hand side of the chiropractor's Calvary, the Villa de la Rosa, the path of sorrows, the shops and that like Christ carrying the cross of his stick to his death.

And there's the sense on it. I got I can get tense.

I got I got the worst case of diarrhea on the Great Wall of China. Now, as we drove outside of Beijing, big day, no more. We're going to the biggest common market in Africa, all going to the world. They've got the wall to China. This is great. Oh, the Great Wall, me, Rascon and Heaven. And I'm not joking. When we got there was like, get out and Gondor. And there was about four little chip shops for little burger joint and lot selling sweets.

And the Great Wall of China was behind them. I was completely let down. So anyway, eleven o'clock in the morning and you got you were hungry.

I said we'll have a burger. Well, I'm not joking. About eleven o'clock that night, the bubbles and the gurgling started in your stomach. Roscoe comes into my hotel room in Beijing. He said, man, I'm bad. I said, How bad? He said, it's like lava out of a volcano. I said, I'm bad to next four days and four nights. It by the end of it, it was just water. There was nothing.

We got food poisoning on a dodgy burger, kind of a great wall of China. And then when I got up on the Great Wall of China, they only allow you to walk 50 yards because the rest is protected.

I wanted to run off into the distance. I wanted to go off and stand on my own for three and a half thousand miles. I that the Chinese are caught and they said only to here today. And as a guide, I stand in full military uniform, stop and go back to the story. I had a lovely day and more lovely day at the in-laws. And then Barbara back to the house. Say goodbye. We're going back to Galway.

So as I was driving back up on the road from guard past the Plastiki sit, I'd come by the geese and there on the left hand side, Polin was a speed van on the motorway, the dreaded speed and you know the feeling.

I was in the right hand lane and you jumped right on the brakes. Fugate's the speedometer as quick as it can. Get down on the road. Honda, get down, get down. You can buy it. And I stay on his. After ruining my day, he's after ruining my day.

How fast we going? I don't know. But one hundred and twenty five want to go. Could have been more than thirty and then I just went waste. He's just pull in there. So anyway I want to go on about nine, nine, ten miles past the flow of Rapanui on towards the end seven and seventeen I turned off on the Lamore More Road and I come off a roundabout and go down by his garage. And then there's a lovely little place where tractors pull in.

And what was there a fucking speed van again. Again, again. I thought I'd come by him and then all the boys are flashing me on the road and I just felt like I'm back up to the speed man and can break in the windows and taken the the air, the tires and go, why are you doing this?

Why are we being persecuted by these sneaky little snide little vans that are just pulled in to catch us? It's a disgrace. I hate them. And then I saw the other day at the same place who was fixing one, and I wanted to get out and have an argument with them. I wanted to just they just piss me off. I hate them. They just ruined the day for me. It was a lovely Sunday and twice within the space of twenty minutes, I was caught out in the country that I pay tax in and that everything I do and I love this country and they're sneaky.

You don't see it in France. You don't you don't see it in Spain. You don't see the car pulling in the Sudan, you don't see the Sudan. Tell me they're hidden there.

They just get in in these lovely little places with abortion and you're safe enough driving like you feel. I'm a good driver. I'm not a bad driver. I'm not reckless, but I just fucking hate speed vans.

This podcast is part of the Cast Creator Network. I was in Australia a couple of years ago and we were driving. It'd be a shorter list of countries that you haven't been.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, you're not. I'm trying to paint pictures. I think there's a few places I haven't Norway.

What I do like do I've been there. It's crazy what I do like in there. I've been to Norway and Iceland. Yes. Yes, Greenland. No different. Greenland and South Korea. Yes. Vietnam, yes. Cambodia, yes, India, yes, China, yes, wow, North Korea, no, no one puts North Korea. No, no, no, no, no. Uruguay. Yes.

Amazing. Brazil. Yes, I got married in Brazil. I tell you that story in Switzerland. No. Well, I'll keep going. I can't think of the career in the world sector, not in Finland. Yes, Turkey, yes. Russia, Asia, Zambia. Yes. Wow. My God. Nigeria, yes. Cyprus, no.

All right, this is why this is the stuff we need back in geography, because so many kids are given up geography.

This is why what is the capital of Albania to really just run around and to love the capitals being countries and countries and capitals was brilliant rivers.

But I was in Australia a couple of years ago, Lang Lang Lang Lang Lang Lang, and we were out in the middle of Aboriginal people in to go to war, broke out in the middle of Ayres Rock and we were in Alice Springs and I thought Alice Springs is going to be like this paradise. But it was full of Aboriginal land lying down like winos and homeless. I was going, oh man, there's problems everywhere, Danny, Ginge and I am I gonna try to get money?

I was going into the shop and we've got this cheap anyway.

What we wanted to do was wanted to go out into the desert and drive for days and head down towards Uluru, Ayers Rock. So I got this big seven, eight hour Toyota Land Cruiser excuse me. And we said we set off. We went to the drive to a place for the beer. We got all the supermarket stuff and we got gallons and gallons and gallons of water. And we had an extra cans of petrol and gas and diesel left that we needed.

We were self-sufficient for a 650 kilometre journey to the Australian desert. And I saw S'pore five hours into the journey. I'm driving to be dugs dead of the heat of the day. And it's what else? And just singed, singed birds, eaten them, singed, just desert and singed this sentence where you get to know that when you send your hand on your.

And never, ever could you ever send your hand in your burn the hairs at the. You smell it. That was the smell of desert. So we're driving along and this is Decider's to the sea riders to the city and right up to the storm with Jim Morrison not to play by the Western world. So I drive along and then I said to the boys on militants and we could see not because in not in four hours except desert.

And then I said to the boys, boys, I think there's something happening in front of us here. I can see these flashing lights way in the distance. I mean, you're driving. I'm driving. And I can see that the heat coming up off of the one asphalt tarmac thing. And as I said to I said, rascal. And he was half asleep and Revan in the back asleep because I was on my my driving duty three hours on, three hours off.

I said, boys, I think there's roadworks here in the middle of nowhere.

So it as we approached, saw the digger, saw a couple of lads and there were shoulder and cement semi, there's a little bit of a flash flooding and they were fixing this bridge in the middle of nowhere. And I said, I swear to God, Roscoe, roll that camera, my big mouth. Then the said us er and I guarantee I somebody from Ireland here. Imagine there's got to be somebody on construction. This is a construction thing in the middle of nowhere.

Better. There's an Irish like I said to camera will get a piece of TV out of this. That's the type of stuff we would hop in the car. Roscoe was ready, he hopped out. I got a lot of was a control three kilometre. Oh, Alice Springs. You've got to draw Ayers Rock expec porchetta toggled to construct construction national master plan. Er Nearshore I betcha to some Irish. I went over to local guys, Aboriginal boys.

I said, what are you doing out fixing this. It's just men in this bridge. We're out here for about three weeks. We'll do it now in the dry season and then we'll head back. And then I said to the lad, is there any Irish here? He said, cos there is mate over there. Went over down the side. Right. Went over down the side and there was an ass. He was down children. Samant and I saw the topic was asked and I saw the crack of his ass.

I need a big Stetson on him and he's down.

Men should run in. And I went, Yeah, from Ireland and he goes. How are you doing? And this is in the middle of Australia. I said, where are you? Where are you from? I've been west, mate. Give me a minute. I got a second there. So he fucking comes up then, right. And he goes, how are you lads? Uneasiness. I'd say he's in his 40s, late 40s. Stetson on him, wiry, unshaven.

Country accent Westmeath and I says, I'll go and we shake hands, what are you doing here? Last hour I said, We're down here for three months. We're filming a show for for Jesus Christ. What brings you here? Blah, blah, blah. Great chat. Lovely man. Westmead, how long are you down here? I'm down here about thirty three years. He said 33 years now Australian. I love it. Never go home.

I said that's incredible. Lovely chat. Got a photo and headed off. Just great to see another Irish brother in a remote part of the world. Wow.

Three months later. I am at the ploughing championships, my sons are like five and six years of age and they're into tractors and those are there's a toy store at the plant championships that sells really good farm toy machinery, really good replicas like really good tractors or searching for that. And I walk by the Massey Ferguson stand and a lad comes out to me and he goes, Hektor.

Oh yeah. Can we get a photo? No problem. And he puts the arm around me. He's one of the reps for Massey Ferguson. I said, Yeah, do you want a T-shirt for the kids or something like that? I said, Yeah, no problem. They love tractors. He says, come on in. It gets up and he says, get in the photo. We put the arm round. And he said. You made a woman very happy actor, you made an old woman very happy, ISIS.

What do you mean? She says you won't believe what I'm going to tell you. Come on in here for a second. We went into the prefab where they sell the tractors and he said, I'm going to tell you something now. I had a very a neighbor of mine, an old woman, very, very happy.

And I said, What do you mean? He said, You remember you were down in Australia there a couple months ago, south of Chandigarh. He says, yeah. He says, remember, you were out in the middle of the desert. I said, I was here. He says, You met a man from Westmead. I said, I did. He said, well, I'm next door neighbour to that family. And that mother hadn't seen our son in thirty three years and she thought he was dead a long, long time ago.

And the next thing, she saw him on your show and you made an old old woman very, very happy.

And I didn't know what to say. I just said, wow, what a fucking coincidence that that could happen. Wow, isn't that mad? Yeah, that that man had never returned home. But what a great story. You made an old woman very, very happy.

Well, everybody, thank you very much for listening to this week's podcast. You've been listening to me. You have to share with Lisa Bloom. I hope you've enjoyed it. We'll see you next week. Shukran. Salama like tourer.