Today's guest is somebody who says what he wants to and stands by it. He's had hits in all genres of music. He's my friend. He's got a new festival tour that starts up next week, actually in my home state of Louisiana. Grateful to be with him, today's guest is Kid rock.

Shine that light on me.

I'll sit and tell you you my story shine.

On me.

Should just go race, go race the cars. It'd be wild, huh? What is yours?

It's a Panther Dodge demon.

Dodge demon. It's. That's stunning. I never seen it. It looks like a panther. It looks like it's going to attack something.

Yeah. Some pussy. It's not a car you drive around looking for dicks with.

Yeah, that's not. Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Dude. If I'm in that, bro, I think I definitely will meet some chicks, you know? Dude, kid rock. Good to see you, man.

Great to see you, buddy.

Yeah, bro.

My little nephew.

Yeah, man.

Nashville. Nephew.

Yeah. Thank you so much, bro. You were one of the first people that really welcomed me into town when I got here, and you invited me to. It was your birthday party.

Well, it was crazy. Cause one of my background, singer, Stacy Michelle, who's now, she's with skynyrd. She's married to Ricky Medlock. But staying with me for years is still just a great. She was infatuated with you before I got turned on to you years ago, your comedy stuff. And then we ended up in, I think, zany's dressing room or whatever is one time. And I came around where we're. And I'm like, facetime. And I'm like, look, I bumped into it. She's like, oh, my God. And boom, here we are.

Yeah. That was fun. Dude, that birthday party was sick, man. You. I think you got up on stage. It was. You guys wrote a song just for it.

Oh, my birthday party.

Yeah, it was at your birthday party. It was at your birthday.

Oh, at the saloon.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

During the COVID bullshit.

Yeah, yeah. It was my 50th birthday, and we.

Were gonna do this whole 50th thing. I was gonna do a big gig at Ford Field because I did one for my 40th there, which is the football stadium in Detroit.

Mm hmm.

And we're gonna do something similar to 50th, and we're all fucking locked up and shit.

Well, made the most.

There's like, nothing happened out, you know, where I live, it's like, if you didn't turn on the news, it was like, nothing happened.

Yeah.

People over every weekend having a good time. They said, I worked on an album that year is like, whatever.

Well, your bar was still open too. And down in Nashville it was still open, right?

Yeah, we did everything we could to keep it open, and we didn't exactly follow all the.

I remember that.

I remember a couple times, I remember one time specifically being in there. There's a fucking line outside. And they had this. All this bullshit, like, you can't use the dance floor. People have to be 6ft apart. All this horseshit.

Yeah, you can't whistle it, bitches. I remember that. You can't whistle it, bitches.

People standing outside, this close in a line outside. I walk down there and I'm like, everybody get in here. Start following them in. And then motherfuckers, like, I get a picture. I'm like, do you want to command or you want to take fucking pictures? Like, you stand outside. Get in here. Come on.

Yeah. That's one of the reasons why I chose to even move to Tennessee is just because of it was more open. Like, even when I came here, like, there was at least half the stuff was open.

We in LA at that point.

Yeah, I was like, half the shits open in LA got lame. Dude, you're going. I was just looking at your tour schedule. You're going to Gonzalez, Louisiana, bro. That's where my sister lives.

Not this weekend, next weekend. Yeah, it's a rock. The country festivals. Jason Aldean's Friday night with a whole lineup of people, and then I'm Saturday night with. I think Hank Junior's on that.

No, really?

Whole other cast of people. Yeah, it's tickets. This is the first year festival that I have a vested interest with. We did a partnership on this thing. So I'm really out. That's home here. I'm out pumping it.

Okay, man. Well, yeah, Gonzalez, Louisiana, bro. It's so crazy because my sister, she lives right by Lamar Dixon. That's where it's at. I've been there to see like, they do haunted houses up there. They do all kind of. I mean, this is huge. Fairgrounds, you know, they do like the state fair.

That's pretty much what all these are. They're in the middle of like, what the fuck is going on in Ocala, Florida? There's like, there's going to be over. There's going to be close to 35,000 people there.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, dude, tickets are already. That's, you know, that's where they're scaling. They're already at 28, 29,000.

Oh, there's going to be. Oh, wow.

Gonzalez is going to be huge, too. That's going to be 20 some thousand, depending on how many tickets we move today from, you know, rapping with you.

Ashland. Yeah. You got Ashland, Kentucky, Rome, Georgia. Anderson. Some of these places I had. I don't know if I've been or not. Mobile.

I've been. Well, I've been to some of these places, but we're basically doing these in small towns, middle of nowhere. I'm just trying to. It's. To me, it's kind of an underserved market. This is really what, we're just trying to put a specific festival together where, you know, everyone's welcome. But this is for, like, pretty much people who love America. Freedom loving Americans want to come have a good time, you know, like, my joke has kind of been like, it's okay if you do, but you're probably not going to see a lot of, like, nose rings and blue hair at these, like, things.

Right.

But there will be some excellent people watching, I'm going to predict.

Yeah.

Right now.

Yeah, bro. Especially Florida, man. They just had a fake tit that washed up on the beach. Do you see that?

No, I think.

I don't know if it was in Ocala, but it was somewhere.

Only thing, washing up on the beach. I got a place there in Jupiter on the beach. And fucking illegals.

Yeah.

Washing right up on the little island I live on.

Really?

Like, several times.

Yeah.

Like, and it's been going on for, like, five years, and now it's. It's getting a little bit worse. Haitians and stuff. Like, you know, just, like, washing up and trucking through the neighborhood.

Nuh uh.

Yeah. They're like, everyone lock your houses down. I'm like, I don't think these people are. Most of them are trying to rob people. Just trying to get the fuck away. Like, you know, get in and whatever, you know. It's crazy.

Yeah, yeah. We just had a. We had a border patrol agent on two weeks ago, and it was fascinating just to see, like, the amount of people. Since 2020, it's four times as many people have come into the country.

It's bananas.

It's bananas.

It's. It's insanity. Yeah, it's insanity because unfortunately, you know, and I believe the FBI directors even said this and hear it. It's like, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, you know, look at, you know, what's going on in Israel. Look what just happened in Russia, you know, over the weekend. It's unfortunately, God. God protect us. It's unfortunately. They're going to do some shit here. They're already plotting it. You know, you got these countries that.

Fucking hate us, hate America, just, you.

Know, when you know which countries they are. That's why, you know, people were giving me shit when I went on Rogan about, you know, how to handle Palestine. And I'm like, anybody listens to kid rock's politics, number one, I'm sitting here fucking drinking beers. Just, you know, you ask me a question, I'll give you a fucking answer. But I don't think they should dictate this as policy, necessarily.

Yeah, well, that was interesting. That was the one thing that this border Patrol agent said that was kind of fascinating to me, was like he said, it used to be that it was migrant people coming for the farming seasons, and then they would.

Which we need. I grew up in apple orchard. I used to pick apples with these people, you know. Yeah, every season, you know, a lot of them would come up and go back, whatever. Boom, boom, boom.

Yeah, that was the flow. He said it was like an inflow. Outflow.

We need them, right? We need. We need great migrants.

Yeah.

I think Trump spot on. He's like, we want the good ones to come. We love them. You're great. Most of them are, you know, if they're Mexican, South America, most of them are like, you know, Christians, God fearing. They want to work hard. They want a better life. Like, great, man. Let's figure that out. Get them over. But we can't just let motherfuckers just keep cruising across the board.

Ridiculous.

Now they're coming from everywhere. It's just. It's insanity.

That's what he said. He said. Now, a lot of them are Africans. They're from all over. He said the amount of people that are. It's not your Mexican. It's not what you say.

Coming from China.

Yeah.

You know, this. Then the other, which might be. Might be great, too, but it's like, you know, it's crazy. I can't fucking have people come trucking over. Well, I can't. Every time I go to Canada, I get fucking detained. These people are just, like, cruising across. Here's a phone here. Where do you want to go get your plane ticket?

Like, yeah, I can't even fly a hot chicken from Australia without doing a half a month of paperwork. But if she's willing to camp out for four days, you can fucking pull it off through Yuma.

I feel like we're beating a dead horse. Yeah, it's like people are either one way or the other on it. They just. I feel like people's kind of minds are made up about this shit.

Yeah, I kind of think so, too. I just worry about this. The effect, it's like. It's like it starts to wear down on people who still have a lot of faith in, like, the american dream and what America means.

Yeah, we might want to make sure, you know, we want the american dream to be alive and well for everyone, especially people that come for to this country. But we want to make sure that dream is alive and well for people who live here. For our working class, yeah, our hoa.

Is just turned into the shit. Like, our. Whoever's running our hoa, it's just gotten out of control. That's what it feels like.

Even people should be able to, you know, like when, you know, growing up in Detroit, the auto industry, and, you know, being very close to my father had, you know, a dealership and was very successful. And all my buddies, you know, their parents worked on the lines or worked for Ford, Chrysler, one of the, you know, stamping plants, manufacturing things for cars. And back then in the heyday when everything was going on, you could work at Ford Motor Company or whatever, GM, and your house was paid for. You had a cottage up north with a boat, maybe a 66 Chevelle or something in your driveway. And we need to get back to that. But you got to get things under control with inflation and everything else. Because you call it, the Democrats hate what the Republicans do, cutting taxes. They call it trickle down economics because now the rich are getting richer. It's like, it's kind of part of the american dream. That's how shit works. You want to be. You want to support capitalism. Yes. There's going to be some bad actors and monopolies that sometimes need to be broken up, ticketmaster. But, you know, people should have that opportunity, and it should be probably, you know, back then, like I said, that we got to get that back.

But it's like, you know, like, okay, they're going to pay workers, I think, $20 an hour to work fast food at in California. It's like, this should not be a career fucking job, right? Maybe if you're manager or something, I get it. But this is where you start off, you know, where. Where we had our first jobs, working at Kmart or working at McDonald's or something like, this is not a place like, you go to work to support your family and career, and now all they do is, okay, we're paying $20 an hour. Okay. A big Mac's fucking $7 now. Nobody wins.

Oh, I see what you're saying. They just raised the price of what it is. Yeah, I think, well, you have to pay people a better wage, though, I think, like the min. I think the. In some places it's still like $7 or something. Like, you can't. You can't. Someone can't work all day and make $56.

Well, it depends where you're starting, what you're doing.

That's a good point. If you're a high school student, though, then it's totally different. That's a good point.

I picked apples for twenty five cents a bushel. You know, I wasn't buying a new moped with that. Right. You know, have a little money in my pocket, go to the movies, this and the other. And it's just. I believe everybody should make a great wage and should be treated fairly. But at the same time, if that company's not doing it, fuck them.

Yeah.

Go find another job. Make yourself better. And if you make yourself at the best, whatever it is you do in life, if you're organized, you know, if you make your bed in the morning, start there, and you go to work with a positive attitude, you try to learn and you try to better yourself. I don't care what position you're in. I tell everybody that works for you, I want you to make me not be able to get rid of you. And when you come for a raise, I have no choice but to say, hell, yeah, you're invaluable.

Wow.

And that's the truth, man.

That's a great. You're right, bro. If somebody works hard, you cannot afford to lose them.

Yeah.

You know, and you won't. You won't, man.

Good people are hard to find and even harder to replace, especially when you're talking business and that. But I would, you know, I would applaud that. Even in friendships, you know, anything, not just business.

One of, one of my mentors, he said one time, he goes, he goes, if you want to know the cost of hiring somebody expensive, hire somebody cheap. It was something like that.

Yeah. I would. I would say the same thing is, you know, it's very. It's so easy to hire someone.

Yeah.

It's fucking hard to fire them. So this is why when you go to college, I always tell my son, I tell, you know, friends, nieces, nephews and things. I'm like, you want to intern at whatever level, whether it's high school, whether you go to college, whatever it is, whatever you want to do, you need to start and you need to intern because this. That company's vetting you, you know, to hire you. They want to see what type of fuck up you are, if you are at all. They want to see what, you know. Are you able to learn new things, move on, you know, because, you know, getting a good job, like, it's. It's. It's pretty easy to hire someone. So you go through this vetting process to try and get them. But firing people, fucking tough.

Yeah. There's so much protection and stuff for employees and stuff, which in some places there should be, but, yeah.

Oh, even here, Tennessee, we got the, you know, just for people that work with me and, you know, people on the farm and whatnot. It's just we got things posted everywhere. Cause you have to, you know. Yeah. Can read workers rights and it's crazy, you know, my thing is, like, I would like to work out different things with different people. And on some levels we do, but we got to go by the book. It's like, people can't work over 40 hours a week without being paid overtime. I don't do anything that's not by the book. I don't. I'm sure Uncle Sam's already got their fucking eye on me pretty good.

I'm like, sure.

I've been audited before, and all my shit's in order, and I do everything strictly by the book, you know?

Yeah. You seem like somebody they're gonna catch.

How they want to catch. Yeah, I'm sure they've been digging out, especially now. Yeah, like, what about Trump? They're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna check your shit out. So it scares the fuck out of me what they're doing to that guy right now.

I know with Trump, like, yeah, they. I know a lot of these horseshit, the lawsuits, the.

I think it's the 8th amendment, you know, unusual punishment, punishments and excessive fines. It's one of the amendments. I think it's number eight. It's like, yeah, I think, you know, OJ got, you know, convicted of a civil suit for murdering a person or two. I think he was $30 million Trump. There's no victims of this alleged inflating his, you know, value of his companies obtain loans. Everyone got paid back. Everyone said they would do business with him again. And they're like, yeah, you owe us 450 fucking million dollars, and we're gonna start taking your shit. Yeah, they're gonna spark a fucking civil war.

That's one that, that's the part that I start to worry about is like, is at a certain point, especially if there's tried. There's like election trees and whatever. If they're real, at what point is the scale to psych? People are like, fuck it.

You know, and there's some pretty radical people on both sides, you know what I mean? I'm pretty staunch republican, very conservative, mostly fiscal. I've always said, you know, I'm way more liberal and, you know, personal things, you know, I don't care if you gay. I don't care if you want to dress up like a fucking woman. Shit, you know, I'll draw hard lines like, no, no, no, motherfucker. You shouldn't be in the fucking bathroom, you biological male. And women's bathrooms are playing in sports. Like, what the. By the way, what the fuck is planet fitness thinking? Do you see that shit?

Uh uh.

Oh, my gosh.

What is.

I have the story right. Just happened. It was. It was just end of last week and I think they lost a billion dollars in market show, right? And it's only going to get worse this week. So they. There was a biological male in the women's locker room. I guess there was a little girl in there and somebody and a lady took a picture of that biological male who's trans shaving, posted it. Planet fitness kicked her out for taking the picture. And then somebody at the company, I was a coo or somebody, put out a statement, like, about, you know, we want to create an inclusive environment. Plant and fitness is like, planet fitness. Try fitness. Dick in your mouth. You motherfuckers are done right there.

We did.

Well, this is bananas after what's going on right now.

Like, well, this is just bananas. First of all, if this is. What's. If this is, you shouldn't then allow children and adults in the same locker room because that's. If there's a child in there that's.

Ladies with her daughter or something, who cares? Like, I mean, this dude wants to work out a planet fitness. Go for it.

Right?

Nobody cares. No, no, you're not going to the fucking woman's locker room and shaving your neck. Yeah, zoom in.

Zoom in on the dude.

Come on, man. What the fuck?

I agree, bro.

What the fuck is going on? But then here's what.

Should they just have a.

If you look at that and go like, no big deal, just stay the fuck out of my space, dude. My private spaces out in public, I could deal with anybody that's. I'm a freedom loving american, and unfortunately, that means there's a lot of weird shit that could happen. I'm cool with that. But my private space is staying fuck away from me.

But what has. So where does somebody like this. They just go to the men's room. Then you're thinking, wow, I guess I just. I wonder if you're true. Like, they should just have a separate room then for like, yeah, you want.

To create an inclusive place here. Create your fucking nine non binary.

I agree.

Whatever that shit is.

Have one extra restroom, then that's for trans people. But then you're going to get to the point where somebody's like, well, then we need a. That's. That is part of the road that you go down when you go down that kind of stuff. But, um, yeah, I agree, dude, this would be so. And if you have a child in there, it's like, like I was at the airport in Los Angeles and there's a gender neutral restroom and a kid went in and then a guy went in and I'm just like, maybe not a kid, but probably twelve, you know? But it just. Part of me is like, I don't care if my.

It's just my grandmother and her friends hanging out. It's just like, get the fuck out of here. What are you doing? Cut it out. Yeah, let's cut it out.

Well, they just had. Caitlyn Jenner was just talking about this.

Caitlyn Jenner kind of gets it.

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I still common sense.

I agree. I don't understand why this is such an issue. Just have a trans division. What is the problem with that?

See, I would actually watch that. Oh, I've said the trans boxing. Oh, you're not turning that off in a heartbeat. You know what I mean? Trans any, what if you then had like trans midget boxing?

Gosh, do they have transparency, little p? Do they have trans midgets?

Got to you think? I do a lot of Google searches for midgets, but my buddy's got this genius idea. You know Brad, my friend Brad, he's like got this genius idea to do a civil war reenactment with all little people.

Oh yeah.

Like General Robert E. We.

I love that idea.

I love little people, man.

Yeah, you had, uh. Cause you have a famous little person that you had.

Joe C. Joe C. God bless him.

Um, where'd you meet him at?

He came to one of my early shows. We're still playing clubs around Detroit. It was called the Ritz at the time. And you know, there's probably 6700 kids there. And he's standing on a table and you could see he's a little dude, but you know, he didn't have the features. He would always say, I'm not a fucking midget. I'm just a little motherfucker.

Praise God.

This before I knew him. So he's smoking a joint on this table singing along with all my old dirty songs. And I'm like, did anybody see that fucking kid out there? Like somebody brought like their six, like seven, eight year old kid. I'm like, somebody go get that kid. I got questions and I get him back there. I think he was with his dad or his uncle or somebody. And I'm like, hey, buddy. I'm like, you know, how'd you enjoy the show? He goes, that's fucking awesome, man. He lights up another joint, and I'm like, what the fuck? And he goes. He goes, I'm fucking 18. I'm josie, motherfucker. And I swear to God, I didn't miss a beat. I looked at, like, I think cracker somebody. I'm like, do you want a job? He's like, what? And I'm like, do you want a job? He goes, I'm not really that good of a rapper. I'm like, I can teach you. I can teach you. I can show you, young sensei.

You're like, I'm not either.

From that day on, he was down, he was in the crew, and, wow, he was. I miss him every day, man.

Yeah. What happened to him? He had kidney failure.

He had celiac disease misdiagnosed as a kid, so he had to take, God bless him, like, 72 pills a day. He had kind of this, like, dialysis machine. He hooked up at night just deep, so it was tough to bring him on the road. But I'm glad he went to a lot of spots with us to be able to see, like. And this was when we were fucking nut bags raging. We were just following the book of the Handbook of Rock and Roll to the t and probably inventing some new chapters in it.

Wow.

And he got to see it all. We had to see so many cool places, and he got to meet so many of his heroes. He was just using me as a stepping stone. He claimed to get into the WWE. That was his passion, was wrestling. I was like, really? Yeah. I was like, I get it, but I'm like, well. And then he got to do all this stuff, you know, Vince McMahon took him under his wig, and he got to do all the stuff with all his favorite wrestlers. And I was just. It was. It was so fortunate. Luckily. Not luckily, but fortunately, he did pass away at home, which, you know, it would have been just who was already devastated enough. But if that would happen on the road. Oh, yeah, I guess there's no way.

But, you know, and where do you even put somebody? I guess if you're traveling or I guess you like, oh, I guess you just leave him at the hospital.

Yeah, it was. It was. Yeah, it was a unique situation. Like, one time he forgot his pills in Cincinnati, and he said, you gotta take me fucking home. I'm like, dude, let me call your dad, and if we have to get you back, we'll cancel the show and figure out. But let me go. Don't call my fucking dad. I'm calling your dad. Because he kind of, you know, his mom and dad were grapers. You know, he was on it on his health stuff and what he needed to do. Yeah, it was his mother, his whole family. And his dad's like, no, he'll be okay. Just ask to eat, like, two bottles of tums. He needs this calcium thing or something like that. So I'm like. He goes, take me home. I go, I just talk to your dad. All you have to do is eat two bottles of tums. Fuck you, man. Take me home. I'm like, we're not going home. We're doing a show. So we got two bottles of tums. And he sat there and motherfucked me through those two bottles of tums. I'm like, Joey, eat the fuck. He's like, fuck you.

You're a fucking asshole. I'm like, eat the goddamn tums, Joey. Shut the fuck up and quit complaining.

Eat the fucking tombs, Joey.

I wish we had that video. Pretty funny.

Oh, there's got to be nothing this because. Yeah, they say if you feed. If you feed. What are those things? If you feed them to a seagull, they'll blow up.

Yeah, I think so. I remember hearing that. I think that was rolaids or something.

Yeah, they say if you feed.

Yeah, that's the same thing.

Yeah, he used to say, if you feed Alka Seltzer to a seagull, they'll blow up. So, um.

Yeah, dude, I never tried that. That would definitely up my. That was my steed.

Never tried it. You fed 200 tons to a little person, bro. That's fucking way crazy.

It didn't blow up.

Does it really explode in seagull? I bet that you think that happens or not. That guy did it.

Who would mind a seagull blowing up outside of, like, PETA?

Yeah, let's watch it.

Seagulls are useless. You can't eat them. I guess you could.

I've never.

Desperate times require desperate measures.

Oh, I'd eat. I'd have some seagull.

Fried Seagull.

I can't believe they don't have it, actually.

Well, they eat him somewhere, I guarantee it.

Does something really happen to this seagull or is this just they rope in?

Do you see a lot of these Internet things? Because you know a lot about the Internet from doing this, I'm sure, at some level, like, and what I've understood. A friend of mine runs YouTube music, and I was trying to talk to him about this, but he moved to London. We're reconnecting. But you want to keep people watching for you get paid more, like if they watch longer, correct.

Yeah, I think on some clips.

I know you get paid more if they see the ads.

Right.

Things. Because we make actually pretty good money from music videos on there. Now that I'm doing everything independent, it's pretty interesting for me, you know, it's not really a money thing anymore. Like the early years of trying, you know, bank money, but it's kind of interesting to watch.

Yeah.

All this stuff and have direct access to it. When you're with major labels, it was pretty hard to dig for and find. Like, it was just audits. I mean, every audit would find, you know, 200 to, like, $1.5 million. Like, you just forgot, like, to pay me, like, a million dollars.

Like, it's crazy. It's crazy how much they hide. Yeah. I can't believe you're performing out there in guns. I mean, it's just cool. It's just like. It's like an off the beaten path type.

That's the first one out of the seven festivals, rocket countries. Then there's the rodeo we're doing in at and t stadium, which is going to be very interesting.

The rodeo, where is that?

At Arlington there, home of the Cowboys. We're doing a teams rodeo. So, you know, rodeo has always been like bull riding. Just used to be single events. People are just competing against each other, and it's timed. So the PBR put together team bull riding, where now you have, like, you know, a Nashville team, a Kansas City outlaws. And so you get to root for your home team as a group of riders.

Yeah, I remember you and I were talking about this. Were you going to own a team?

I was looking into buying a team, yes. I went very deep. A lot of due diligence down there. But then.

Yeah, what is it like with the.

It was. It was about $20 million, but. And they're only growing bigger and bigger, but. So I came up with Sean Gleason. He's the CEO of the PBR. We decided to go. I go. I love bow riding, but I love rodeos. There's a little more action, entertainment. I love to watch the ropers.

The rodeo is so much fun. Yeah.

Girls riding, barrel racing, buck and saddle, Brock riders, like, but I'm like. And so he goes, what if we did a team thing with rodeo? We'll put together six teams, which we came up with names. It's the rock and rodeo. So you have, like, the jokers the Sledgehammers, the Misty Mountain.

So has that started yet?

No. This is only one event this year where we're going to have, like, head to head competition. So, like, ropers are going to be going against each other. Barrel racers are coming against each other.

That's what I want. I want to be a part of a team.

Do we found a little person, like a midget? And I think we got two of them that do the matador things with, like, a little mexican bull.

Oh, wow.

They're dressed up like.

Yeah, that's.

We want entertainment going the whole time. You know, I'm going to open the show. I'm trying to put together something really special, like. Like an award show would be some other guests, like, putting something because it's. We're going to be televised.

Well, rodeo is extremely. I mean, what do you. Do? You have to do anything. Rodeo's awesome. Like, when I go to the rodeo, like, I went to the Franklin rodeo last year.

Let me get to my big dick moment.

Okay.

So rather than buy the bolt riding team, we put together this team series. All these teams where I'm playing the rodeo, I'm in charge of, you know, the entertainment. We didn't really have a budget, so I said, I'll play it. It's a long term money play to me. So rather than buy a bull riding team, I own half the league.

Oh, wow. Damn.

So if we can get this to work and people think it's a great event, we can make it fun, and then, you know, we can start to sell teams to prospective owners, you know, dude, keep me.

I would. I think I. Cuz I love the rodeo, man. It was my favorite thing I've done in the past year.

Yeah, they are great. You know, it's just the last great. At least in the times we're living in right now, it's the last great american. I would call it non woke sport.

Yeah.

You know, I mean, where everything's pro american, we're gonna stand, take our hats off for the flag. Probably have an invocation. You know, we're still gonna get a little wild and have some rock and roll and have some crazy fun. But, you know, it's just like, there's not going to be. And this is. We're being very protective of this league that we want to keep it that way.

Yeah.

We don't want to let in bad actors who want to, like, introduce dei and all this shit. You know, where we.

Yeah.

You have a gender neutral bathroom for the horses. Yeah.

Yeah. You can't just throw them. Yeah, some malaysian or somebody on a horse. Just because ethnicity, you know, it's like you got to want to keep it quality riders, people that know what they're.

Doing, and hopefully the team things creates a little more drama, you know, we don't know what's going to happen because no one's ever done it. I think they're doing trials this week. They got a, you know, ranch in Texas where they're trying some of this to see, like, how close can we put the barrels. We don't want anyone to get hurt, obviously, but we want to create some drama.

Dude, I would love. I even just think the teams going against each other would be fascinating. I mean, I think it'd be great.

Well, it's always great to have a team. You know, these are all just teams we created now. But, you know, when you go to root for your, you know, favorite football team or favorite, you know, baseball or hockey team, like, be nice to have this, like the bull riding teams. Now you're. As a city, you're rooting for this team, you know, so we're trying to create that which I can't believe nobody's thought of yet in rodeo.

I love that. Yeah, man, I would love to be a. If I could get a group together and be a part owner of something that'd be fascinating, especially with. With rodeo.

I told him, I said, I think that's a big angle on this is not to just have, like, you know, there's great owners in the bull riding from the Johnny Morris, as you know, and Richard Childers and people like that. I go, what I'd like to employ for these rodeo team sales is that they bring in certain celebrities at certain levels that are into this. Like, if some rich guys of a company want to, like, you know, my buddies lit on the Kansas City outlaws. They started bad boy mowers, you know, made a grip of money and bought the team down there. Great guys, but. And they want to do, like, maybe a little deal with me to have a little piece of the team. To add that, you know, what, you know, people like that bring to it, showing up to the events, throwing their ideas in there is like, want them to have people like you and in the sports, you know, entertainment, you know, music world involved with each team so we can kind of create a little bit of that shit show.

Yeah. Get some extra buzz.

Definitely keep you.

I love going.

Thanks, bro.

Dude, I heard a rumor. There's a crazy rumor that I love rumors that you pay, that you would call, like, Walmart at Christmas and pay off the layaway for.

I did it once, people's gifts.

Did you?

Well, I did it because I saw Tyler Perry did it.

Oh, he did.

And I was like, what a great move. Cause I'm always looking for things to do, and there's some things you do a lot of things. Just keep them quiet, you know, that's not what you do it for. But then there's times where I'm conflicted, because I know if I do something that's public, it might influence other people to get on board for that. And you could do even better. So that was one thing that Tyler Perry did, and I thought that was, what a great idea, because people don't know. So just my little neighborhood here in White's Creek, Tennessee, there's a Walmart right by me. That's my go to Walmart. And the Lowe's right there, you know, they're just conveniently located. And if I can't get it at Walmart or Lowe's, I probably don't need it. So, yeah, I had somebody go over there, and I was like, it was kind of a little bit of a nail biter. It was. And it wasn't about the money. It's just. But you don't know what it's going to be. It's at Christmas time. I'm like, go find out right now what they owe on their layaways.

Wow.

And you're like, is it going to be like, 300 grand? Is it going to be, you know, ten grand is like. It's like 85 grand. Okay, so then what's cool? Because I live in the neighborhood, too, so I just put a little. I don't put a little card in there. Just said, you know, merry Christmas from your neighbor, kid rock.

Oh.

So people's layaways were paid, and people were, you know, excited about it and felt great. And it was something, you know, you can't write that off. Like, you can if you give to another 501 c three, right. This is just straight cash. So to give that 80 away, I had to generate 160.

Yeah.

So it's not like, you know, the most charity stuff. But, man, it was. It was a great feeling. I was proud of that one.

Yeah.

My friends, Randy Gerber, one of my best friends, Cindy Crawford, they did it at a place, like, in Compton or something. And I think there was an NFL coach who did it somewhere else, like, so what Tyler Perry started kind of caught on that year and helped a lot of people out. And I think this was kind of during the recession.

Oh, nice. Oh, that's a great story, man. Yeah, I'd heard something like that. I was curious about it.

Of course, next year, everybody was fucked. Cause, you know, everyone's at Walmart. Like, I bet kid rocks coming up here, pay off our shit. Like, oh, he didn't show up that year.

People are putting aquariums, guns, candy ass.

Tires for the truck.

Oh, yeah, whatever, dude.

That's great. We got washer and dryers on fucking layaway.

What else is I thinking about? Dude, you have. So I met your brother. Your brother? Tell me that. This story is fascinating to me, dude. This story because your brother lost a limb. And how did it happen when y'all.

Were kids, he was seven years old. I was four. And riding up on my dad's brush hog, got, rest his soul, and we were coming up the hill and it started raining a little bit, and he was trying to cut some grass on the way up the hill. And I don't know. I can't remember so young where we fucking around a little bit, like grabbing at apples or something, but he slipped off, fell underneath, and that just took his leg right off. It was a conundrum. But I was so young, and he was so young. It's like, basically we grew up. Not really. I don't ever remember him, really, with two legs and he could do anything, the fucker golfs. Oh, yeah, one leg with. With no. Like, he just drops his crutches, balance. Like, that's the first thing Trump says to me every time I see him or talk to him, which is a lot. He's like, oh, your fucking brother hit the greatest shot. Well, first time I'm golfing with Trump, I take my brother and my dad. He's president, so it's like, it's a shit show. And it's a little nerve wracking, you know?

This is before we became really good friends, you know? And you're like, this is a shit show. But it's. It's fun.

Your brother's out there. Yeah, with one leg.

And Trump goes, what happened to your brother? And I told him the story. I go, you should see him hit a golf ball. I go, this is a lot of pressure, too. So Trump goes, Billy, come hit a ball. My fucking brother. He's probably stoned. He goes and grabs Trump's driver without even asking him. Grabs it, gets over there, smokes it down the fairway, like 220. And Trump's like, I want to change partners, Billy do.

Yeah, he looks like that lamp from Christmas story kind of and I know.

Billy and I'm only call him hopping around. He, I wrote a rap song about him, bro.

He, his attitude is he's fucking hilarious, dude. He's always. And he can get so much higher I think cuz he smokes pot, right?

Oh yeah. You know he hasn't smoked like three months he said. And then he was hitting his little thing. We had my dad's service down in Florida. He passed away in February over the weekend. And he's always joking like, you know, I'll always have him drive. We were having some beers when we put my dad's ashes in the tomb. Blessing, you know, me and my dad like drink beer. So took some beers over. So I was having some beers there saying goodbye and my brother's gonna drive. Cause marijuana doesn't affect him. That's what he always says, right? And then he does dumb shit and I'm always like, marijuana doesn't affect me. Sure enough, he's backing up the truck, we're getting out of the cemetery and some of our in laws, my sister's in laws parents fucking backs right into their truck. I'm like, marijuana doesn't affect me. Oh boy.

Well, and it's less, there's less of your body to like disperse the dope too, I think if you have her missing a whole limb.

Yeah. And he's actually got himself really in shape now. I've been on this crazy health kick for the last several years.

You have been?

Yeah. Doing all the stuff like, you know, the Dana and Breca have recommended. But I've known a lot of people and I've really. I'll take you through it if. I'd love to actually tell that to people who might be watching this, enjoy what I do.

Really.

It's something positive I could do for once because I kind of mentioned on Joe Rogan, I was like, you know, for people who like what I do are in and around my age, especially like, it's fucking time, everyone, it's time to get our shit together, get healthy. Like, you know, you can't just run around doing what I was doing for the last 20 years forever and expect not expect some major consequences.

Yeah, you can't be getting. Yeah, scoring eight balls at a fud rucker. Expecting, continue to prosper.

Oh, scoring eight balls at fun ruckers. I need that t shirt. Wear that.

When did you. Because you stopped doing drugs. I know.

Yeah, that was, that was a while back. I don't really like to get into that too much, but that probably had.

Something to do with part. I mean, that'll lead because if you're not partying, then at least you're more. There's more of way, a better of opportunity to be able to like, oh, absolutely.

And I started picking my battles more wisely. When I'm having my beers, sipping a little whiskey, I try not to sip whiskey out in public. That's a 50 50 right there. You don't know which kid rock you're gonna get. Yeah, but so I.

So, yeah, tell me about it, man.

So you went, you just listen to this routine. I know Mark from, Mark Wahlberg put out his routine famously about what he does, and I'm kind of on something similar. So I'm up very early, like between 330 and 04:00 a.m. 5430 at the latest.

Really? That's all a lot of animals are up then. Yeah, marsupials, I think.

And this is when I don't have shows. And it's weird now playing shows because they go out west. And I'm like, oh, my God. I've been in bed for, like, it, but I only sleep about 5 hours. I don't for. So I take a nap every day, most, most days. So I'm up that early. I love that morning. I get whether I'm writing songs or going through emails, business. My mind's so fresh. Nobody's up messing with me. I just got that time to myself, my coffee and cigar going. I'm jamming away. I don't care whether it's, you know, first thing I do is make my bed, clean up my closet like I'm organized, free. After that, about 615, I'll do a 13 minutes ab workout and stretch. 07:00 my pickleball partner shows up. We play singles pickleball, which is high level cardio. Could be 45 minutes to an hour, depending how the games go. 815. Circuit train in the gym. Click the song on circuit train, do 20. 515, ten, increasing weight after that. Red light therapy bed, ten or 15 minutes after that. Got a bike in the sauna. Ride the bike for ten minutes just to get an extra good sweat going.

Steam shower, cleanup. Jump in the cold tub at 44 degrees for five minutes, and then I feel like fucking gold. And it's work. I've made my band like a. I kind of made them a promise this year. Not that they asked, but I was like, these shows this year, I'm like, I'm gonna have my shirt off for ball. With the ball you watch, they're like, you drink too much beer. Do that I'm like, trust me, I've been working my ass off. Wow.

So Lamar Dixon and so in Gonzalez. The shirt's coming off, son.

The shirt's coming off. Let's go. You ought to see Grandpa. You wanna see Grandpa getting after it? Shit's going down.

Fuck yeah, dude.

Fucking 50 year old plus women fucking losing their minds.

Oh, there'll be a lot of women out there with the exact same body as you, I bet. No, you don't think?

No, I'm not. I'm not kidding. And these are the greatest fans on earth. I sell more extra large women's men's shirts to women than anybody on the planet. These are bigger girls. And you know what? They got fucking jobs, they got money, and they love the fucking party they got. Yes. And they love. Take their shirts off. God, some of them probably shouldn't. Either way, we appreciate it. We appreciate the fucking effort every time, man.

Dude, I remember. Yeah, well, one of the things, when I was a child, one of the most beautiful things at Mardi Gras was seeing all the tits. And they weren't like, they weren't a lot of these, like, fancy store bought tits. These were real fucking american bisquick fucking chest monkeys. You know what I'm saying? Like the kind of cornbread titties. Oh, the kind of tit, dude, that'll look over this way for some ketchup. Like they had some fun. Fucking real. Just scare bears on them. You know, just a fucking tit. You could just curl up under it and take a nap. Just a fucking real title.

Start doing. For my naps. I've been. I usually just put on some Bob Ross or somebody with a soothing voice.

And kick back, bro. Get you a big tit out the crowd. But at Mardi Gras, you'd be able to see those tits as a kid.

Because the king of Endymion were you.

Really?

Yeah. Years back. Got the ride that flowed around and what worst idea it's like. So you're riding this float around the afternoon, having a blast.

Yeah.

You're obviously drinking, carrying on, you know. But then I was scheduled to play at, like, 01:00 a.m. In a superdome. So I just fucking. I can't. I don't think the show is worth a shit. It was because I was like, I was drunk.

Yeah.

And then I tried to take a nap. God, I'm got drunk again. I'm like, yeah, this is just. I've just got to go fucking hiccup. I go try to kind of limp.

Through in a slow.

Yeah, I can rock.

Yeah. What's the most lit you've ever been on a stage?

You think it wasn't lit? I've never drank before shows. I usually. These days, I don't drink, like, two or three days before shows. Like, I take that very fucking seriously.

Yeah. Cause I heard your live show is amazing, man. I've never been to one. I can't believe that. Maybe I'll come to the Gonzalez one.

Do you live in a cave?

Or maybe I have been to one.

Come on. Yeah, come on. Your sister's gonna be there. Yeah, you could probably fly that with.

Me, dude, if you got. If you're leaving on that Saturday, I could.

Yeah, I'm gonna go in that Saturday. And I probably. I usually just. I'm right out after shows, but since I got nothing, I'll hang for an hour or two after. Have some fun, bro.

That'd be so cool.

Come with me. We'll hook your sister up, man. We'll have a good time, dude.

No, she's got a boyfriend or whatever, but we'll definitely. You can hang out with her or whatever. I mean, you're not. You could.

I'm good. Okay. You know Audrey? Oh, yeah?

Yeah. Oh, I thought. I thought you said, well, fuck your sister. And I was like, maybe like, me.

And you fucking yourself.

I'll wait outside.

Promote the last album release I had. The only number one record I had is when I went to jail for fighting at the Waffle house. And I'm getting out of jail next day. It's all over the news, and they're like, his new album came out today. I'm like, this is the greatest promo I've ever come up with on accident. I go, if I knew, all I had to do is, like, just go punch somebody at Waffle House. Come out of jail. The day the record comes out, I'm like, I didn't have to do any interviews at number one album. I'm like, yeah, fuck, let's start doing that shit. We'll do it next album. Just bang your sister together.

Look, I don't think I want to do it. Okay, well, I know we're so.

I've helped you out with, you know, career wise, giving you advice you could give, you know, let's slide some dap back.

That's a good point. Let me check. I'll text her after this.

Here's the crazy part. We could film it at the show and then not release it until the record drops. Just so we got it. You've got it in the bank.

Now we're getting. Because here's the thing. It depends on. It also depends on which. One of my sisters, too, but no, she would. Dude, that'd be so great, though. That'd be great.

We could do it in a more acceptable fashion, because I know that could be weird, especially you being from the south and everything. What about if you banged my sister and I banged your sister?

Okay.

That would be probably more acceptable.

Yeah. I think that's the least we could do for each other.

We'll figure it out. Yeah.

Um.

I'm glad we got that out of the way.

Yeah.

God, I've been sweating, like, what am I gonna promote the next album? Boom.

Did you, uh. Yeah. What was that fight like at the Wolf house? Was it a good fight or. No, you know, the court, things been.

Settled and everything, and, you know, I'm very careful about talking about this.

Oh, you are? I don't even.

I didn't even know that know, you know, you. Like, I haven't done interviews and real interviews, probably ten years. I just had enough of them. And so now I'm getting back into the swing, you know, doing a few here and there, finally, like, succumb to the podcast world and.

Yeah, thanks.

And I hate, you know, in the past, have brought things up, like, that have happened. Like, boom, you get sued again.

Oh.

Said something wrong this then, so I kind of.

I didn't think about that.

It's on TMZ. You can see a little bit of it.

What, um. Yeah, were shows, like, were shows moving the needle for, like. Like, were late night shows? Yeah. Like, when did you. Did you kind of take a break, cuz? Yeah, I remember when I first met you, I remember talking about the podcast. You're like, I don't. You know, I see you said, maybe one day I'm gonna do. I might do one with Tucker sometime soon, and then maybe sometime after that.

I did that to promote my last album and tour. Those were my last big tour that I did for the unforeseen future. I don't know.

Yeah, that was last year, right?

A couple years ago. Two or three, maybe three. I can't remember. I did like, 30 shows and put an elm out. But all I did was that thing with Tucker. I sold out the whole tour. Wow. And, like, for where I'm at, without promoting records, like, I don't go do the radio, any of that stuff anymore. Just kind of put them out for people to dig what I do and for myself.

Yeah.

Love to make music that's what I do. So I was like, fuck that sold out the whole tour. I was like. And it became years ago when the Internet started coming. I came up without all this shit.

Yeah, same man.

Without cell phones and stuff. When I was getting my groove on and starting to make money and being successful and everything had turned into a gotcha moment. And there's nobody, like, gotcha to get better than fucking me.

Yes.

I'm fucking idiot. You asked me a question. I'll just start fucking diarrhea the mouth all day long.

Yeah, yeah.

So everything would be like, oh, it turned. It's like nothing about music. Like, all of it's just like, kid rock. His dumbass said this or talk shit about so and so, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I'm done with that. I fucking don't need the headache.

Yeah.

And I'm kind of getting back into it.

Yeah.

Just because I have these shows to promote that I have a vested interest in. I own half the rodeo. Like, I really want to see these be successful. So.

So, wait, so the ones that are on this tour coming up with the you and Jason Aldean tour that will be the rodeo is attached to that?

No, that's separate. But it's still like, you know, I have an ownership in these festivals.

Right.

Perpetuity. So if we make these successful and, you know, several years down the line, if I'm not playing all of them, if it just becomes its own brand, rock the country, then I get to be just involved in the background of trying to put good experiences and good music together for other people. And that kind of interests me more at this point. You know, if I just wanted to make a dollar, can just go out and book a tour. I've been very blessed, you know, with hard work, number one, a work ethic that nobody's fucking with me work wise. And then, you know, have. For people, like, what I do, it's, you know, it's a show. It's an entertainment show, show, show. And you'll see that. But now I'm more interested in trying to create something, whether it's, you know, something that you have ownership or legacy. Legacy things for my son or my grandchildren or things like that.

That.

And it's a lot more work, but it's more interesting. It gets me out of bed wanting it, like, you know, just do better and kick ass that day.

Yeah, I like that, man. A new challenge. Yeah. It's, like, more challenging. How can I figure this out? And also restoring some tradition, like, we've let go of a lot of tradition. Like the media has beaten down a lot of american tradition, especially in the past five years.

There's a big portion of this country that's underserved, as you know. This is why Duck dynasty and Yellowstone are so huge. Things of that nature. Like there's this, call them conservatives, whatever you want. Maybe middle of the road, right leaning, who just don't have, like, I'm like, every time I get into a series, you know, I don't watch a ton of tv. Probably watch a little too much fox News and I should, but I don't watch a ton of tv. I kind of would rather spend my time doing more productive things. But I like to unwind and shut my computer down for an hour at the end of the night. And it's like, and I don't care if there's somebody gay, somebody trans, like, if it makes sense to be in a show. Yeah, it's like every fucking one of these things you put on, it's like, comes the trans person. I'm like, for what are they? Like the greatest actor? Okay, great. I'm like, no, no. It's just so they're, you know, though they have that fuck off. Hollywood has their stupid balance of bullshit or whatever they're trying to do. I'm like, you just don't have to like insert it fucking everywhere.

Well, and it just, they don't, they think it's not obvious to people. But then also, like, hollywood, like, click. I know, same.

There's only 8000 things you could stream. Like, okay, I'm not, we don't have to watch Alexander the great with two dudes, like, you know, getting down. Look for the, well, maybe that would make sense because I think that dude was gay or something like that might make sense, actually. And if you're, that's the storyline. Okay, boom. That makes sense.

Yeah. But I think, I think also if you were living in a castle or something, you would, dude, I designed a castle, your own.

But he built one like a small, more of a guest type house, like four floors. But I love architecture and interior design and all that shit.

Really.

I got designed to castle. I'll show it to you sometime.

When did, um, when did you, like, when did you realize that, like, you loved business as much? Because it's interesting because there's one thing to be entertainer, right? To have that ability and to be blessed with the opportunity to entertain people.

Absolutely.

That's rare. But then, like, when did you kind of switch that? Like, were you always in the business mindset? Or did that sort of switch at some point, or did that become, like, an added thing? Like, okay, I can also be a businessman. Does that make sense? Kind of.

It kind of had to be one. You know, it was in my blood more than most from my dad being a success. He was, you know, put himself through Michigan State College and graduated top of his business class, you know, and then started one of the top 50 Lincoln mercury dealerships in the country, which I'm extremely proud of. You know, I love to see these motherfuckers online, like, oh, he was a rich kid. I'm like, yeah, fucking awesome. Yeah, fucking awesome. I wouldn't call ourselves rich. We were, you know, upper end of middle class because now I've seen what rich really is, and we weren't, but we were better than most. And it was great. And I will never apologize that to fucking anybody, but so, american dream. I had two great fucking parents that worked their asses off. And, yes, we had a pool and fucking horses and shit like that.

Yeah.

And I had to cut the grass and I worked my ass off, like. But I think I had it in my blood for my dad, number one, and had great. Him and uncles, people around me. But it was. I had to be good at business because I was never the most talented guy in the room. I was not the greatest singer. I was not the greatest player. I was always one of the best dj's. Things like that. But I knew how to put it all together. But I had to be shrewd in marketing and things like this. And I had to really work harder at these talents to be, you know, to be able to get my hand in the cookie jar of the upper. The upper scale of talent, the upper end of talent wise, you know, which, which I've gotten there. Some would arguably gotten there. It depends who you ask. So, you know, it's kind of out of necessity, but. And it's very interesting, too, to dig in. And, you know, sometimes it's. It's like the music business. The actual record part, like that is just a bummer. It's like, what's happening?

It's the most dirty fucking business. The porn industry is more straight up than the music business. It is the dirtiest fucking business on the planet. And that can be quite upsetting and a turn off when you're in that world dealing with it. I've seen behind, you know, I've seen the wizard. I know what he looks like, you know? So, um.

And with, with, like, when you say stuff something like that, like, with the music. Like, was there ever stuff where you recorded that you couldn't release? I know that happens to a lot of my friends.

No, there were certain things I had to change, like, early on with, like, samples, sampling, people. Like when I put my first album out with jive when I was 18 years old. You know that too short produced a few songs. And Dean Ice and Chuck nice. From three times dope. And I used every crazy sound. Like, shattered the Rolling Stones. They were like. And I'm rapping. I'm pretty much, like, rapping, like, suck my dick in, like, five times every song in the album. Like, there's nothing about this record at all.

You needed a blow job. What do you know?

I was 18.

Oh, dude. Yeah.

Dirty and gangsta rap was the thing, and I wanted to be in the middle of it, but, you know. So there was a lot of samples, like Jim Crotchet. They were like, you're not using Jim Crotche or rapping on dirty songs. So things like that. But, no, there hasn't been. I mean, I made a lot of songs. It's hard to think through them all. Yeah, on the spot.

What was it? Um. Your dad passed away not long ago, man. I'm sorry.

Thank you. Sorry. 15th.

What kind of guy was he?

He was awesome. He was. He was a character, man. Was he hardworking, patriotic son of a bitch. Like, love, drink beer, work hard. You know, as he'd say. He said, we'll drink a case of beer on Friday, and that's just getting warm for Saturday, you know? But, uh, he loved music. Rock and roll and outlaw country shit, but he was great. Of course, we butted heads when I was young. Cause he had no. He was like, what the fuck is this kid doing? I'm the only one that didn't go to college. Didn't want anything to do with his business.

And you look like the complete opposite of college, too.

Yeah, exactly. But I'm basically running around the hood, you know, my turntables, djing and rapping and breakdancing, all this shit. And it was like, you know, you could ask him if he was still here. My mom would tell you. He's like, we were worried about Bobby. Like, we're gonna have to take care of him the rest of his life.

And you think they'd be worried about the guy with one leg, right?

No, no. Yeah, exactly.

But then they're like, fuck, dude. This guy to lose a leg, too.

Yeah, he needs to lose them both. Probably take an arm with him, too.

Wow, man. Did. They were. At first, did they. At what point did they kind of tilt?

Cause I'm sure you know what point when I made money.

Is that it? Yeah.

Yeah.

Guess what, then.

He was so proud of me. Like, he came to some of my last shows in Detroit last year. I bought him this fucking pink Versace short set. Fucking like four or five grand. I can show you some pictures with.

This shirt and the shorts.

Yeah, he got in a wheelchair. He was. Cancer was getting bad and stuff, but he wouldn't miss the show, so. And I had one of my hats on. He's got a big. I got him a thick dookie, gold rope chain and, like, you know, everybody wanted to have their picture with him and shit, you know? So it was quite a. It was quite a send off, that last show for him.

Oh, that's awesome, man.

That's great. He was great, man. He was so proud of me, you know, and all his children and his grandchildren. My son and him were, like, really close, and my son leaned on him for so much advice. And now he's kicking ass working for this company, Kraken, and also do a little side hustle with our happy dad guys.

Oh, is he?

Yeah, he's got a little side thing with them.

Your son is one of the nicest guys.

That's probably. Probably the thing that. That you could say to me that I'm most proud of right there.

He really is.

Everything I've done and everything I've been. People, when they say that, and it happens often for people that know him, that's. That's food chain for me and accolades.

Yeah, he's, um. Well, one thing he does, I don't know why I made me fucking what? He always will send me messages to say, like, congratulations or just a heart. Just something like, to let you know that he's paying attention, that he cares, you know? He's a thoughtful guy.

Yes, he is. It must skip a generation, is what my friends always joke. Like, how did you get such a great, hard working young man?

Yeah, dude, Robbie is cool, bro.

He's the best.

And you guys have two grandchildren from him now. Do you have other grandchildren, too?

No, just two from him. My granddaughter, who was a Christmas baby, she was born at Christmas, Miss sky. She got her a little keyboard for Christmas, like, last year. I got a red rider bb gun and a little drum machine she had started on. And she loves. I got her piano lessons, too. Signed her up, found a good teacher. And she loves it. Loves it. Wow. So I'm really excited about that. My grandson's still just you know, shitting his diaper and, you know, tearing stuff, tearing stuff up. He's wanting one. And.

Oh, yeah. So he's still listening to some of your early stuff.

Now, this is the funniest shit on earth right here. Okay, look, there's my girlfriend, right? The same. So my son's mother's black, right?

Uh huh.

And so my son married an italian girl, so the kids are like a quarter black. So we see my granddaughter. I'm sure they have. He has posted pictures of her on there, or maybe there's a picture together. My granddaughter is just beautiful. Just looks like Halle Berry. He's got that nice skin tone, you know? Oh, yeah, my grandson looks like fucking Hitler. He just came out completely white. Fucking blue eyes. Fucking genetics, man. You never know how it's going to work.

That's cool, man.

There's my granddaughter. It's just funny, you know, just. You never know. Genetics are gonna work. Hitler. Obviously, I'm fucking joking, but it's got.

Course. Yeah, whatever, dude. I don't.

The people are so stupid, you know, some. Some fucking MSNBC will run with some headline, kid rocks calls his grandson.

We had. Yeah, we had Roseanne bar on and we got in trouble. Loves fucking. Great, isn't she?

Love her. I mean, I haven't seen her, talked to her in years, but we've. We've spent a little time together through the years. I think I was saying to somebody entertaining, like, I have no interest in television at all. Zero. I was like, I would have to look at that hard. I wish Roseanne would do, like, a new show and just get everybody that's kind of been in that cancel culture thing, whether they've been canceled. Not everyone that's gotten their radar, like me or whoever, like, you know, the guy from Seinfeld or, like, you know, messed up, said the n word, like, yeah, get all these fucking people together and, like, just create the greatest comedy sketch show, you know, like Roseanne or something like that. Just do something like that. Like, get them all together.

Yeah.

I was like, I would take a hard look at, you know, maybe not doing everything, but you pop. Maybe I'm like, you know, the Guardian neighbors? Like, yeah, I'm the trans neighbor. Even better. That's genius. I don't think I have the acting chops for it, though.

I bet you could, though.

No, it's like when I did Joe dirt, you know, our buddy spade, I'm like, dude, I really don't want. I didn't know him, but I'm like, get him on the phone. I was like, dude, what? I go, I don't really want to act. I go, have you seen me? I look like fucking Brad armpit. I'm like. And he goes, dude, it's like, you play a dirtbag who's, like, super mean to me. And he goes, it's not like a stretch roll. I'm like, you dick, dude.

You guys play golf a lot, right? Mm hmm.

Yeah, we've been buddies ever since Joe dirt.

He's a. He's one.

I don't think he can tell too many people in Hollywood, as he says. He goes, dude, you're like Hollywood's kryptonite. I'm fucking proud of that.

Yeah, dude. Mike, you're my mother's absolute favorite, dude, just because. This is why she's probably never heard any of your music, but because you say what you want to say. That's what she always say.

That quite often, actually. Grandparents day this year, my granddaughter school, which, by the way, is the greatest thing ever. Like, I go into grand. Well, no, grandparents day. Oh, sure. The grandparents come. Or special friends.

You showed up.

I go every year. Yeah, but this is the best part. So I walk into the arena for the ceremony first, Winona Judd singing. Got her guitar, like, one of my favorites. I love Winona. So she's singing. I'm like, oh, this is, like, unbelievable. And then we're walking around. The funny part was, we're visiting her classrooms. Your classroom teacher show me different things around the school. And, like, the whole time, like, you're like, a lot of other granddads are coming up, and they're like, keep giving them hell. Rock. Yeah. He's like, we love what you stand for, Trump. Yeah, blah, blah, blah. It happens quite a bit that afternoon. And we come out, and I'm gonna take my granddaughter to lunch after. She's like, you got a lot of friends. You got a lot of fans here, Papa. Oh, she's paying attention.

Well, it's. Well, that's the thing, is, there's so many people, I think, for years also were afraid of losing their jobs, especially in Hollywood, if they can said anything that was openly conservative. You know, Hollywood gets his carte blanche or has over the years to make fun of, like, the only person they would make fun of his. White males, mostly. And so I think that's where they lost a lot of people. That's where they, like, it started to ruin comedy. Oh, they.

Now it's kind of coming like, people have had enough of it. Whether you're liberal, conservative, whatever. I think the majority of just common sense thinking people are like, yeah, this has gone too far.

Yeah.

Like, when you can't joke about anything because you've talked about with you.

Yeah.

You're like, and you know me, remember? I'm like, I drew a line. I go like, here's the line for you in comedy. I'm like. And you're kind of standing right behind it, right on the edge. I go, I would employ you to fucking jump about 3ft past the line. Like, just say what's funny and if people can't handle it, fuck them. Yeah, that really didn't change. I've been. I came out with little fingers on my CDs, like, running my mouth. It's like I always say, and I sound redundant, probably. But I haven't changed. The times have changed. I've been doing the same thing since day one.

Dude, you know what? I think that's really true about you. Cause sometimes I think something you say, I'm like, it seems like the. Sometimes I'll be like, that seems kind of outdated. But the truth is just the times have changed.

There's probably things I maybe don't want to get blackout drunk and say at 53 years old or like, you know, like, fuck it. Act your age sometimes. But I'm like, I like to have a good time too. And like. And there's like, there's several times and it's all out there for the taking. Yeah, I'm fucked up. I probably should be on the honky tonk with fucking microphone, but I really don't give a shit to some people. It's probably interesting and fun. It's, you know, and it's not that I don't mean to say it. It's maybe that I shouldn't have. I don't know.

Well, we've changed. It has changed over time, though. It's changed to, like, what people? I mean, the same people own so much of the industry that it's like the same companies and everything that it's like you people have just been afraid to speak up.

Well, their social standings. It could be their social standings. It could be their jobs and careers. Yeah. And, you know, I talked to a lot of the younger, especially in this town, country acts, things like this who are being successful coming up. And, you know, if we get them talking about, I'm like, look, I wouldn't employ that you get into anything that I do or, you know, like, you know, you need to, like, I'm not. I've always said I don't give a shit about awards at any level. I was like, I don't need those fucking accolades. I don't want them. I'm not willing to play the politics or put the penises in my mouth to get them. Yeah, I've tickled some balls through the ears, but I'm not in certain penis in my mouth.

But is that gay or is that just making sure, you know, to try.

And get an award, you know? I don't think that's gay. Either way, I'm. No penises in my mouth, period.

That's fair.

So. But I tell these younger kids, you know, seriously, I'm like, you know, I would advise not staying out of it, you know, but don't go around the same time acting like, because there's a lot of these country guys, too, are like, you know, I'm a badass. I say what the fuck I want, and I'm like, no, you don't. Yeah, you absolutely do not. And it's very apparent. So you might not want to act, you know, run around town like, no, I do what the fuck I want. And it's like, no, you don't. No, you don't.

I know.

Well, there's so I'm not employing them to do that.

Right. Like.

But don't act like at the same time, you know, I'm just. I'm not acting like anything. Yeah, there's a kid rock and there's a Bob Richie, but they're the same people. It's just, you know. Yeah. I'm sure you didn't want to talk to fucking Bob Richie today. That's boring as shit. I'm like, you want to talk to kid rock? Yeah.

Yeah. But I don't. I think you always seem kind of like the same person to me. But also, do you feel like, at your level, once you have a certain level of money and you know you're going to be okay, it is easier to say what you want.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

But you also become a bigger target, you know, for people who want to. Would like to take things away from me at some level, you know, because I pissed them off or said something they don't agree with or said something very harsh that maybe I shouldn't have.

Yeah.

But I never cared. I was talking cash money shit since I was broke when I was young. Yeah, I've talked cash money shit. I probably came out of the womb talking cash money shit.

Yeah. And they're like, it's a boy, it's a girl, it's. It's somebody talking shit. That's all we know it's a shit talking.

Shit's a shit talker with two legs.

America's favorite dirt serpent over here. Um, they just had that law that passed here that I thought was really cool. Can you see?

Mm hmm.

Oh, you got it. Luke Bryant praises Tennessee act for protecting artists from being exploited by AI. This is pretty fascinating.

I agree. But I'm also not sure I'm against it yet. I'm like, so you tell me some kid can AI my voice and, like, potentially make hit records, and I don't got to do shit. I'm like, I'm in.

But can you get any royalties from it, though? That's what I. That's where I think it would get tricky, using nothing more than a few give a shit. Why?

Because if I can go play that song and somebody else comes up with live, money's at the gate.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Right? Like, that guy can't go unless he's a dj. Then he could take the song somewhere, but he couldn't actually go and do.

A live if they want, but they're not gonna be able to do as good as me, right? You can go watch the COVID kid rock band all you want. Yeah, well, there's a Theo Vaughn, you know, look like that's working the Vegas trip or something. You think that kid's going to be as funny as you?

That's true. But also, the kid rock cover band guy is also just some guy who's been experimenting with, probably methamphetamines, to be honest.

Absolutely.

Using nothing more than a few senses, AI can produce a full song, an entire movie, or even art. While some enjoy the opportunities AI allows, Luke Bryan recently praised Tennessee for passing new legislation surrounding running the technology.

Dude, I would employ everyone, and I don't know if I should put this out there, but it's probably. I don't think I'm the first person to come up with this, but I think I'm one of the first ones. I was sitting around the other day messing with AI, and I just started typing in, like, design me. Create me an image of Kid rock with a gold gun in front of Mount Rushmore with an american flag and a bald eagle, and it pops up this thing, and then I'm like, make it look more like kid rock. And I'm like, there's a merch shirt. I can sell the shit out of that merchandise I sent to a couple people, and they're like, dude, my wife loves it.

Like, I'm like, yeah, like, my wife just left me. And they're like, wow.

But I'm like, think about merch capabilities. So I can just use my mind rather than have a graphics designer sit there, right. You know, have to go through that process, which I've done for years now. I can just kind of. Even if I get it close, then I can take it to someone and be like, okay, let's touch this up. And this. But just for creating merch ideas, I'm like, this is.

And you were able to just do that?

Yeah. Well, you just go to a. And start typing in cool shit things, you think. And you're like, oh, my God. Like, my buddy did one. It's funny. He goes, make one of. He was sitting there before pickleball. He's in tech, and he's like, make one of kid rock. Like, he's the king of Bud light with him. Make it as americana as you can, like. And he's like a superhero. And this thing comes out and you're like, funny. It's fucking funny.

You have to send me the images, man. You got well.

Oh, yeah, but I got them, right?

Yeah.

This is the one I just explained to you. That's not good.

Oh, my God, bro, that's a t shirt, dude. That's crazy. This look like. It looked like Travis Tritz wet dream, dude.

Really?

This looks like definitely something.

I love Travis Trent.

Yeah. You even look like. That even looks like Tristan tried a little bit, too.

A little bit. Yeah. I'm nowhere near that good looking, but it's a cartoon, and I'll sell it.

You made this?

Yes.

On.

That's about. In about a minute and a half. Wow.

That's crazy, man.

Everyone else, you'll see it. You'll see it on sale first weekend of April in Gonzales, Louisiana.

I'm gonna go, man. I'm gonna go. I don't think I have anything to do that weekend, so I'm gonna go.

Excited about protecting a special guest. Introducing me at that show, too.

That'd be me. Damn. Oh, I know.

You have somebody coming out.

Oh, yeah. I put it me.

I think the crowd's gonna be pretty.

Excited because there's different people that are on the tour. I think I saw.

Yes, it's. It's, you know, they're different shows in different cities, but there's a lineup Friday and Saturday. Me and some of them being aldean flip flop. Who's playing Friday, who's playing Saturday. It didn't matter to me, but, yeah, everyone from Hank, junior, Leonard, Skynyrd, Miranda Lambert, Brantley, Gilbert, Travis Tritt, like, big and Rich with Gretchen Wilson. Wow. And a cast of other people. And it just depends, you know, people just need to go to rockthecountry.com because my buddy sent me. Trace sent me the other day. You know, our friend Trace sent me this thing, and he's like, dude, these tickets are misleading because it was saying, like, me and Hank and Jason, we're on both nights, and I'm like, fuck, I don't want that out there. So I send it to my partners, premier entertainment. I'm like, hey, this is.

This.

This is no good. And he. And he gets me back. He goes, we're on it. Because I don't want to mislead people ever.

Yeah.

And boom, it was on Stubhub. It's like a secondary ticket market. They're lying, scalping tickets, like, and if you go to those sites to buy them, like, God bless you, but they ain't responsible for any of that shit. You go to rocktocountry.com and get the tickets for where we're trying to sell them, and it has all the correct info. I just like people to be aware of that. When you're going on these secondary sites, you got to be aware of misinformation on anything.

Yeah, people send me links. They're like, this ticket's $210. I'm like, bro, I've never heard of that site. And if you go to this other site, and sometimes I'll try and find, you know, it's $70.

Okay. Address this other thing that I've been wanting to put out there in the public and try to figure out a way to do it with. And it's been happening to a lot of people. This is. I would be surprised if it hasn't happened to you.

Yeah.

These women sending money to fake kid Roxcomb, this, that, and the other. And I've had. I can't tell you how many, like, either reach out kind of.

We had.

We had several of them. One lady showed up in my gate in a u haul truck with her dog, had sold her house, and given her life savings of, like, $30,000 to some troll on the Internet saying I could. I would wanted to be with her. But here's how they do it. It's pretty genius. They say, like, you know, you know, me and Audrey, my fiance, we've been 17 years. So these bad actors get these people to respond, and then they say, listen, you know, I want to get to know you better. And then they get them, like, kind of on the hook. Then they say, well, I'm getting divorced from Audrey, and my money's tied up. So if you could just send me a little money to tie me over that time, then we can be together. And I know Kenny Chesney said it's happened to him. Even Uncle Cracker, it's happened to him. It's out there. It's like, people do not send fucking money over the Internet to anybody. And then when they show up there, I'm like, there's nothing you could say if you were that naive to some fucking money, to somebody.

Like, you think I'm on the Internet asking people for money, by the way, all you have to do is look. And it's a fake website. Like, at that point, there's no conversation to have. I just feel bad for them.

What did you say when the lady showed up? Did you have any pets?

I wasn't. My security handled it. But it's happened. It hasn't happened once or twice or three or four times, but she should.

Have been a u Haul with her.

Dog, all her shit in the back. Oh, and then the other one that.

I've been only have one u Haul worth of shit to be a adult female. I feel like that's not that much, frankly.

Stay like a month. Right? So this is the other one. I want to get out there in a public way. And I've been trying to figure out a film, a video, put it out there. But I'm like, there's no win. You just look like a cocksucker. Yeah, I just look like a dick. But I want to put it out there and see if I can do it in a more elegant way. Okay. On holidays, birthdays, 4, July, whatever it is, like, if it means.

If you're.

If you're in my Rolodex and it means that much to you, please send a card.

Right.

Stop texting. Happy birthday. Merry Christmas. Happy. It's like, I. I think most of us, and I know I'm in a different, very blessed past.

BLM. I get that every year.

No, but I mean, it's like Christmas. I want to spend that with my grandkids, this, that, and the other. And, like, say my brother in law is bringing over the turkey that day, and he has a question to ask about it. Like, say, I don't even want to answer him. I have to dig for that text through 75 8100. Like, merry Christmases, and I appreciate it very much. I'm very blessed to have a lot of friends. But, like, if it's means that much. Like, please send a card. Yeah, I'm not going to be upset if you don't text me on my birthday or save me at Christmas. Like, those are special times. Like, you know, you want to spend it with family, and we need to get the fuck off our phones and computers on those days and get back to spending that time with the ones we love. Yeah, so that's my spiel.

No, I think it's true, man. I get, I just had a birthday and it was like, oh, man, you spent half the birthday and then you feel bad that you didn't get back to people. That kind of stuff's a nightmare, dude.

You didn't text me back. Oh, man. Yeah, that.

Yeah. When somebody's like that about things, too, it's like, unless it's something that's super crucial or important, like, you know, starting.

To do that is like, people in your spot, maybe, like, people at Fox News and different places, like, have a lot of friends there, you know, made friends with pretty much all the personalities of Fox one way or the other through the years and several other channels and this, that and the other. And so I'll go, you know, try to promote something to somebody's show. And the other one started hitting me, like, I can't believe you're doing so and so show. I'm like, are you shitting me? Like, just like, I got to go on everybody's show, or you're going to, you know, and it's not like they're mad, but they just give me a little bit of shit. And I'm like, I don't need to get shit from you people. Like, I'm just trying to do what's best for my career. I love you. I'm definitely going to try to do something with all my friends in the space at some point and help them out, you know, to have a great show. I want to see everybody win. I'm a good friend. I'm a team player, but it's kind of frustrating.

Yeah, that happens a lot, too. I think with podcasting, it's like, oh, you went on that show. What about my. And it's like, you're just trying to survive. You're trying to get through your year. And especially when you podcast, you have to do your own. So it's hard to, like, I'll try and do, like, three or four a year of my friends, you know, like, as they've done mine, and I want to, you know, do that.

And I could do a podcast every single week. The people that reach out for me that are all friends.

Yeah.

And what's. I don't care if it's politics, entertainment, actors, whatever. Like, I could do it every single week.

Yeah, that's.

It's insane.

It's interesting. Oh, yeah. Let me read that last part of that, AI, so I can finish that up. Yeah, I just want to read that saying. The volunteer the move makes Tennessee, long known as the birthplace of music and the launchpad for musical legends, the first state in the US to enact such measures. What does it do, though? What is the actual bill? What does it say?

Basically, you own the rights to your voice and your image and likeness, which has been that way for all time. But people also couldn't create, like, a song that sounds exactly like whoever, you know, that this technology is. This is just the tip of the iceberg, this technology.

I wonder. Go back one more time. It says the volunteer state is just one of three states where name, photographs and likeness are considered a property. Right. Rather than a right of publicity.

Exactly.

Oh, I love that. That's why I probably go back.

Tennessee should be leading that fight, you know, with people like Marsha Blackburn and my friend Senator Bill Haggerty and Governor Bill Lee. You know, this. They should be leading this charge. I've actually talked to several about really taking a hard look at Ticketmaster. Like, they have a monopoly. And even though I make a lot of money for them and I love the people at Live Nation, we've done great business together, I'm like, this is fucked up. Like, I'll be the first one to admit, like, I'm overpaid. There's no reason to make this much money, but I can't control it because the market dictated in Ticketmaster. They made over a billion dollars in the secondary market last year. That means if you buy a ticket and go to a concert, you're their worst customer. They want that ticket to resell. Resell and keep getting. Keep getting that money on it, and they could cut it out, but the government will not hold them responsible to stop the bots. The government says, we're going to do it, and they're not doing shit, and these bots are out of hand. We have to. Like, I could charge so much less if I could get those tickets to people that want to come see these fans.

But, like, when we've done it in the past, $20 tickets, it's like, we have to scalp our own tickets just to combat the real scalpers. And I know people that do this that used to work at big banks like Goldman Sachs, they do this full time, and it's nothing illegal. They go on, you know, whatever night of the week, and they buy as many tickets as they can to, like, 1015 of the hottest shows in the world, and then they just resell them for markup. And they're making more money than they were being in a huge bank.

Yeah. And the fees, you'll, you'll sell two tickets for $120 and the fees are $100.

No, they're $120. They're almost. Damn. It's insanity.

It's.

And you're telling me we can't get this under control? And I've told our senators here in Tennessee the problem is republicans, too. This is one thing where I'm more leaning left on this because I'm a capitalist, and a lot of conservatives, we free market capitalism. I'm like, this is out of hand. This is a place where regulation makes sense. I'm for deregulation on most things, but I'm like, this is somewhere where it makes sense. And this is something maybe I can actually try and do because it's something I know something about and have done the homework on it. So we'll see.

What is something like that include, though, you think it's like starting a site, like, because I'm sure people have tried to start different sites and different ways of doing it. I'm. I don't. I wonder how you would.

Ticketmaster has a monopoly. Yeah, there's other places. Do they?

Monopoly, illegal?

Yes.

Yeah.

You can't just control the whole market on anything. You know, people have to be able to compete, you know, offer a service, because that's what keeps prices in check.

Right.

And coming down. If you just, if you're the only guy that sells camel pants in town, you can charge whatever you want.

Yeah, I know, Zach. Brian was trying to, he tried to have a new method where they reached out direct. It was like a lottery system.

It's a conundrum. Trust me. I just saw Eddie Vedder recently at an event, and they're really. Pearl Jam was really the first people that really went down this rabbit hole of taking.

Yeah, I remember that.

Right. And I was, you know, just talked to him briefly. I was like, hey, I'm kind of going down that rabbit hole again if you want to get on board, like, because this needs to be, be like, you know, he's obviously liberal and, you know, you know where my politics stand. But I go, this is something where I think we could get together on, and because we're doing this for people, for fans to try to make things.

Better, you know, so sick.

So we'll see. But all of us when we were younger, just like Zach Bryan's doing, it's like, we all want to try and change it. Then you get down this deep, dark hole and you're like, fuck, I can't do it. You know, we need these politicians to change it or they need to straighten up. You know, Ticketmaster needs to do the right thing because they're claiming it's the right thing. This verified fan and all this shit. Well, guess what? The artists don't get any of that. Yeah, it's fucking highway.

Unbelievable. Well, to the fact that you would pay the same amount to. For ticketing fees, which is online, that you would to the. To an artist for there. It's like.

And Joe Biden's out there talking about like, oh, we got it under control. All he did was make them print what the fee is, right? Not like, change it. No, you just have to tell people where you're fucking them. All you gotta do is put that on there. It's bananas.

Yeah, it makes me sad. And you know what? It makes me sick sometimes. It makes me sad. Even put tickets on sale because I know that part of it is gonna be that people are gonna have to pay those fees. You know, I did want to get this part. Scroll up a little bit so I can read this part, please. The volunteer state is just one of three states where name, photographs and likeness are considered a property rather than a right of publicity. So that's interesting. I think that's why they can't do, like, TMZ here and stuff. Stuff like that.

No, they tried.

They did.

We ran them fuckers out of town.

Fuck them.

What got in here? You do that shit bullshit in LA, New York, where people call you and they want that fucking lifestyle. It's like. And I'm sure there's a couple idiots here that want. It's like, majority of us don't. And you're not going to be treated very nicely around here. Yeah, don't bring that bullshit to Tennessee, I tell you. Did you get one of my bumper stickers?

Mm mm.

That stickers made. They don't turn Nashville into the piece of shit shit city you moved here from.

I wonder if it's happening more. I don't know. I wonder if it's going to be harder for people to. I was actually talking with Nick Cannon about this the other day. He was saying that in the future you would be able to be in a movie just by licensing yourself to that movie and never have to go to a set or never have to.

Work less, make the same amount. I'm in. Yeah, that took me about, what, half a second to do that math.

But, but then what would it be like for new people trying to get in with that, be tough.

They're not, they're cut out. You're done. There's no more actors. They don't need you anymore. Everyone's an avatar, and it's so good that you're done. They don't need musicians anymore. Well, you need musicians to play live, right.

Right. That's where you need, that's what you need.

Actors, like, sick of you bitching about you didn't get your tofu at the right time and your trailer and the favored nations, like stay home. We got it.

It could all change. That could happen fast, huh? Well, there's not an, why isn't there enough legislation that protects people anymore?

It feels like that's really, it's always behind. If you're looking for the government to be ahead of things, you know, the famous Ronald Reagan, you know, line was, you know, the worst thing you could hear is, I'm from, from the government and I'm here to help.

Yeah.

You can hear it any situation. He nailed it. It's government. It's like a corporation. It takes them forever to get anything done. And that's because our forefathers put in a lot of checks and balances, which makes sense in a lot of ways. Nobody just has that much power, but it takes a while. So the government's never going to be ahead of things. They're trying to get ahead of. A and I, because it sounds like there's some scary shit that could go on. You know, we're all going to be being born in cocoons like one of those movies or some shit or future generations, but, you know, they're not, they're not going to get ahead of anything ever. Never have.

Yeah, it's unfortunate, but it feels like the responsibilities more and more on the person maybe that more than ever, to take care of yourself, your family, to have some sort of, yeah, we know how that goes.

There's always going to be bad actors.

That I know that fuck the class.

Curve up, you know, like most of us want to work hard and live and be decent people, this, that and the other. And you know what pisses me the fuck off? I mean, it drives me nuts every time. Go in the refrigerator and, you know, get something new out, bottle of ketchup. And I gotta cut a plastic seal off here. I gotta take something off here. I'm like. Because some fucking jackass years ago decided, you know, poison, like food or like, you know, do some shit like this. I'm like, why are we. And they probably put him in jail for a little while. It's like, no, kill them. Get those people out of the. Don't let these people breed. Just get them out of the system.

Yeah.

You know, up does is just ruin people's lives, you know. And the stupidest shit like that, which sounds like nobody bugs everybody.

Yeah, but that kind of shit bugs everybody. It's the TSA of it all. It's like in Australia, you can still go meet somebody at the gate at the airport. Yeah. Which is pretty cool. It's like, yeah, and their food is different. Like, it doesn't have as much stuff in it, so, like, it tastes different.

Oh, I'm big on that. Yeah, there's. Have you got this app yet? I'll promote it because it's a smaller company. It's great. It's called yuka. Y u k a. So you grab that. It doesn't do liquor, I don't think, healthy, you know, energy drinks, but does everything else in your cupboard. And you like, like, you know, I eat like, fresh cut. I intermittent fast, too. I didn't throw that in.

Do you really?

Yeah, I do. At least four days in a row a week, you know, where I only eat in a six hour window. And it's a lot of fresh cut vegetables or like, you know, protein, salmon. We have chickens, eggs, eat what I want for dinner, blah, blah, blah. But this app, you go in like, say, I use tzatziki or hummus for my fresh cut vegetables. You know, have a little flavor. Well, there's one hummus you can get where this. This app scores it. You just hit the barcode and it'll tell you what's wrong with it and make choices. Like, there's one tzatziki sauce I had. So zero out of 100, 100 being the best. And then there's another one that Audrey buys. It's like a 75, so that you can make healthier choices on the fly, in the grocery store, or in your cupboard.

Yucca.

Yeah, Yuka. It's pretty interesting. I hope, you know, people would. Yeah, there it is. Would get this, download this and give it a try, and hopefully they'll make some better choices.

Damn, dude, I can't. I used to miss that, going to the grocery store with my mom when you were a kid and remember at the end, you would always be. You always wait till the very end. You try to behave. And then you'd ask, mom, hey, can I get this at the cannon?

We get some Twinkies. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let me get this. Where do you stand with Bud light these days, Bob? I know you still drink it.

Yeah, we're all good. Yeah, they just keep fucking with me. It's awesome. Do they become friends? Actually, you know, the CEO and some of the guys are. I really like them. You know, they, like I said, I don't want to dig it out again, but the latest one is my birthday. Sent me the truck buying for. With a hundred cases of Bud light smart asses. Now they just sent me 20 bud light bowling balls.

All right.

You know, great conversation pieces, you know. You know, I'm a man of God. God feared man. And I, you know, I think they messed up and I believe in forgiveness. And I'm like, all right, and now you look what. You know, when you see what planet fitness is doing, see what Ben and Jerry stands for, you know, maybe Jerry's dude, right? Fuck them. That's like, not even, like, that's so far gone. You're like, I don't even want to discuss about. But places like Starbucks and. And fucking, you know, target at some level, it's like, hey, you guys gonna wake up? Like, well, yeah, just leave. Stay the fuck out of it.

Well, but. But why even try? Like, I know you wanna be supportive, but just have gay employees.

Have, like, you can't help that. We all got gay employees, gay family members, gay friends. It's just part of. You know what it is. It's like, you're either fucking cool or you're not cool.

Agree.

So fucking bottom line.

Yeah, I don't need. Yeah, this a big thing. It's like, come be gay here or whatever. And it's like, I don't. I just want to be at target, man. It's already kind of fucking gay, you know, like, it's like. So. Yeah, when people try to over push it, it's just so fucking dumb. Well, bud light also had that. They had a woman and she was just dumb.

Yeah. What do you think's gonna happen when you hire not.

And not that women are dumb, but that lady just made it us.

Exactly. When you hire a, you know, when you hire a woke, you know, whatever, whatever. Something year old out of some liberal college, you know, to come work in whatever, you know, New York City or wherever to do marketing, what do you think's gonna happen? Yeah, you know, the bottom line is, and they weren't. They were riding number one. They weren't watching the hen house in a fucking fox got in, dude.

Dylan Mulvaney is a foul. I'll say this dude. That guy is. He knows what the fuck he's doing.

Some of those videos are fucking hilarious. Yeah, entertain. Like, when he was. I don't know if he was all transit, but he's on the prices, right? You're like, oh, my God, this is fucking good.

I didn't see that he's on there. Well, this fella has. He is the mark. He just says he's kind of low key. Like, as smart as you could be about it. He's a marketing guru.

Like, I got no problem, kid. Trying to do his things. I'm just like, do things in line with, you know, his lifestyle and whatever fucking brand that is. I'm like, but, you know, I might not want to try to sell camo fucking, you know, camo guns till it, like, that's just common sense. Yeah, some of it's nothing to do with fucking trans. I'm like, no fan of it. You know, I have the lifestyle, like, yeah, you're not going to get fucking me. You know, I'm not going to be fucking cheerleading for that shit. Yeah. But I can also. I understand America. If you're a freedom loving dude like myself, then at some level, publicly, you know, that's fine. Yeah.

People need to be able to live comfortably, too. What, uh, anything else you want to go over? Was there any other good news articles that came up?

Oh, dude, Sturgis. You know, I played that often on the motorcycle rally.

Yeah, I never been up there.

That's wild. So I've done it off and on for last 20 some years or whatever, but I think. And this isn't confirmed yet, but we've had some conversations. I think Trump's going to come speak before I play out there. And it's already nutty. It's just like, all bikers. Like, probably 30 to 40,000 already, like, so no telling. What if this.

If this comes through the hills will be alive, huh?

Oh, man.

What was the first fight that you went to with Trump? How did that come to pass? Kind of. I know that Dana and Trump are friends.

Yeah, we're all friends. And, you know, obviously love Dana, loved UFC, love Trump. We know all mutual friends. And Dana had this idea, like, to take american badass and make this entrance with Trump. And I was like, fuck, yes. I didn't know where I'll sit there at the front center the whole time, like, you know, I'm like, yeah, I can get down with this anytime, you know, I wasn't able to make the last one, but, um, obviously love Dana. Love what he's done, you know? It's bananas, man. You've been there.

Oh, it's unbelievable, man. I've been there. When you arrive. Yeah, play it up. Play one of them.

Even if I don't play second fiddle a lot either.

That's true. Kind of. You kind of walk in, like, in. Just in support, right?

Yeah, bro.

When they. When they roll in, it is an entrance.

We have a blast to, like, you know, I sit next to trump, drink my beers. We gamble on some fights. They throw on it. I just. To keep it interesting and stuff.

Will you guys bet against each other? You bet online?

No, we'll bet against each other. Yeah, just for fun.

Have you learned to, like, ufc more, or have you learned. Have you develop any more appreciation for it or.

Yeah, I love. I love all, like, fighting sports, you know, I was big into boxing, too. Still love boxing, but I love mma and what, especially what Dana's done with the league, you know what I mean? Like, he's just on it. He's just one of those guys going to win no matter where he was, what he was doing. He's just that level of hard work, brains, common sense.

I don't think people understand the level of work that it takes, too. It's like all the free moments that you want to have a free moment, you have to choose. I'm not gonna have a free moment right now. I have to do something either immediately, just to make myself healthier, to be able to keep going, or I have to do some work.

Absolutely. That's. It's. And I tell people all the time, it's absolutely, I believe, impossible to be very successful working 40 to 50 hours a week.

Never gonna happen.

Yeah. I mean, it takes. Anybody successful will tell you, like, oh, no, no. That was, you know, they're working 75, 80 hours a week. Like, it's nonstop. You're just go, go, go.

Yeah, I mean, last night I was up watching and editing, looking over questions for today. You know, I probably went to bed at one.

Right.

You know, I wanted to go to bed earlier, probably, but it just didn't happen. But I think that's gonna say you're doing great, too.

Just great questions, cool, laid back, talking, like, you know, you're the third one I've done now. I've done Bill Maher and Rogan, and you're great, man. And I love the commute over here.

That's true.

Fly to La or Austin.

Thanks, bro. Yeah, I feel that's one thing I do feel that's been nice about Nashville, man, is being able to meet different folks.

And at some point, everybody comes through here, as you know.

Yeah.

So if there's somebody you want to have on, you can be like, look, when you come through, boom. It's so much easier.

Yeah. You know? That's nice, man. And just being able to be around, like, country music. I think my mother may want to move here at some point.

My mom just bought a condo here.

Your mom did?

Yep.

So after your father passed, she's moving here.

She's gonna start spending a lot more time here. She's like, there's no amount of sunshine because there's snowbirds. Florida. In northern Michigan in the summer. And she's like, there's no amount of sunshine that's worth not being near to my family and grandchildren and great grandchildren. I'm like, all right. And she loves music.

Oh, really?

She's turned me on to a lot of great music. She's like Diggs underground. Like, she was just here a few weeks ago. She, like, went and saw, you know, Randy Rogers.

Yeah.

A great band.

Texas.

And, like, she was there at the show and got to meet them and the opener, and, like, she just had a blast. She would do that all the time.

Have you heard of red clay strays? Have you listened to them? I like their stuff, man.

I dig them.

Tell me about, like, northern Michigan, because I always hear you talk about northern Michigan and it's God's country. Is it really?

It's like the cleanest lakes of water. You could drink the freshest vegetables and food in the summertime. The greatest people on earth. It's like kind of the Hamptons, but not. It's not. There's wealth up there and there's middle to working class everything in the summer. Of course, there's a lot more wealth on the lakes and things like that, but everybody's just. It's more like a working man's wealthy situation and people that everyone gets along. It's like kids are ecstatic to have their first job at McDonald's. It's not some disgruntled single mother spitting on your food or some shit like the ice cream shop. It's like a Norman Rockwell painting, basically. It's. I love it. Love up North Michigan.

Yeah. I gotta get up there, man. Didn't you take Jimmy John's yacht up there? One time. Is that a true story?

Yeah, he's brought it up. Yeah, he let me sell. I had a house in Detroit and it was going to Chicago. And he goes, hey, if you want to jump on and, you know, take care of the crew, whatever, and take some friends. I was like, dude, the yacht on the Great Lakes, which was great for, like, you know, a week. Everyone thought it was my yacht. His 200 foot shit show. It's beautiful. And so cool of him to let me do it. And it was pretty funny. One of my working class buddies was on there with me and he's like, he goes, you know, there's more staff on there than friends. Yeah, just buddies with their wives. And he's like, dude, I just don't understand this level of wealth. Like, I can't, like, get past it. And I go, dude, I'm gonna tell you something. I go, you know how the fuck you get to this level of wealth right here? Like Jimmy John, you know what he does? I go, makes a really good turkey sandwich.

I know he works really hard.

We love Jimmy. Yeah, love him.

Hard worker. There was one article about somebody in Michigan. What was that? Let's hit one or two more news stories, then we'll. Oh, they got leprosy in Florida. Yeah, well, they had that fake tit washed up on a beach down there and you got a leprosy.

What, is everybody petting armadillos down there, bro?

Did you ever have any over the years, it feels like you would have come across some crazy pets. Like, did you ever.

Did I ever have crazy pets? Or like.

Because it was that fad kind of time where people were like, I remember.

Tony Stewart had like, a tiger and then he had, you know, a couple monkeys and shit.

But he also had a couple chicks from Bucky's. I know he likes some real ass women. Dude, Tony will roll up with a fucking real ass woman, bro.

Love, Tony. Never too crazy. We've got, you know, horses and dogs, chickens and had some longhorn steer and I used to have parrots when I was a kid.

Really?

I used to flip them for money. I get these, like, cockatiels, these blue front amazons. Teach them how to talk and I'm flipped and make two, $300.

And then you fucking ended up still flipping the bird, bro.

I went and bought them hip hop records, son. Got down. I was flipping parrots. Getting into hip hop.

That's crazy. And who had a couple parrots on? Like, where do you. Did somebody buy them?

Like, pet store stores are people, you know, raised them, like, hand fed, you know, cockatoo or cockatiel or bluefront Amazon. And the best is, like, they would. They mimicked, like. Like, my mom always used to yell for somebody, especially my dad. He might be down at the barn, and she's like, belle and that one of my birds keep in front of the window in the summertime with the window open, and that mother would start going, and my dad would be like, what? What? She'd be like. And then my dad would come running up. The bar was quite. You know, we had six acres was down, whatever. My dad would come running up, sweating, and he'd be like, fucking what, Susie? And my mom like, what are you talking about? I didn't call. You'd be like, God damn, that fucking parrot. I'm gonna kill it.

That's awesome, man. That's fine, dude.

I say fuck too much, don't I?

No, I didn't notice it that much.

So I heard from a few of my last podcasts was like, dude, you say fuck, fuck like every other word. I'm like, I fucking do not.

I didn't even notice it. Teacher alleges she was fired from Michigan school because of her rap career.

What?

This is up your alley. A woman who began in. Taylor.

Taylor. That's where Joe C was from.

Really?

We call it Taylor tucky. Yeah, Taylor's from working class.

Fucking awesome.

I love Taylor.

A woman who began working at Taylor Prep school High School in August says she was fired last month because she refused to erase materials she created for her rap career. A parent and one of the students complained about Dominique Brown's content after the parent discovered one of Brown's music videos. Brown, who goes by the stage name Drippin Honey. Hey, Drippin honey, says the parent. I hear you anonymously complained about her content, leading to a meeting between Brown, the school dean, et cetera. Brown allegedly asked the school to tell her in writing what issue the school had.

I hope she gets a single out quick.

She was given ultimatum. Ooh.

What was her name again?

Dripping honey.

Dripping hunt. Yes, she is.

Wow. Dang, baby, I got a peep.

I got to peep out her stuff. What if she just had a couple bangers and they got onlyfans thing going? Like, double down, drizzle over. Gonna be a bear. Be a grizzly.

Yeah, drizzle over here, shorty. Um, what about this reminds me of is so cold in the D. Remember that?

Oh, yeah. How the fuck we supposed to be free? Oh, no. But I would love to pull that up. Dude, play cold in the D. How the fuck we possibly be free? Video is just genius. Just kind of go into it a little bit.

Yeah, yeah. Just play, like, start 10 seconds in maybe. Yeah.

Everybody's so hype in this video. Gotta give to chill out. Everybody's like, I ain't even excited.

Casually.

I saw it being a music video. You already singing it. How the fuck we supposed to be free? How we fucking keep peace or be free? Both of them.

I think those are both lines.

She switched it up. She's versatile. That's versatility.

Do you miss, like, some of the times when you could really go hard, bob, do you think you went as hard as you could go?

Yeah.

Did kid rock party as much as he could, you think?

Yeah, but I pick. I always picked and choose my battles. Now you're saying, like, what's the most fucked you played? So it wasn't like playing for. It was. It was being fucked up from the night before. Yeah, but. And I would do that maybe once a year, like, in the early days, and it would remind me it would straighten that shit out for the next year, because that is worse than having a few drinks or whatever you're doing, like, before show, like having that all nighter still up. Fucking, all right, I got to go rock for 2 hours. Bullshit. Like, yeah, fuck that. No, no. And I didn't want any part of that, like, you know. But, yeah, we went. We went pretty hard for. But, you know, I was raising a kid, too, at the same time, so that really kept that checks and balances that I think a lot of people in my position didn't have as a single father. And I had a lot of great help from a lot of great women. But, you know, so that Thursday through Sunday, when I might be on the road or certain things that I'm working at or.

Yeah, I got pretty wild. But Sunday back up, you know, dad's home. Wow. Straighten that shit out.

Yeah. So we got the new tour.

No new tour, just new show. Oh, yeah.

Oh, we got the rockin country.

Nine shows this year, ladies and gentlemen. Seven rock the country. Kid rocks. Rockin rodeo and the Sturgis motorcycle rally at the Buffalo chips.

And. And you have a comedy show here that you do.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. This is our.

You.

You came up the first year, man. That was awfully cool. You're big time then. And, you know, we have some great comedians. You would. You probably know some of the guys if you want.

I know all these guys, dude. And, yeah, this will be at the Ryman in Nashville for all.

For charity.

Oh, it's all for charity.

All for charity. Last year we were able to help the some of the helicopter people that died out of Fort Campbell and victims of the school shooting here. Nashville.

Wow. Yeah, I have actually. Oh, yeah. Chris Porter is going to be on it. Jordan Jensen, Adam Carolla, Gary Owen, John Reap. Oh, wow.

That's great. Cause everybody knows it's kind of for charity. Even though they get a little something. Cause over and like, you remember, you popped in, you did like 15 minutes. You don't have to hold the whole show. Just, you can come and just nail a couple your bet, you know, greatest play, a couple of the greatest hits. I'm like, yeah, it's one of my favorite things.

Oh, bro. Yeah. This is probably your third year doing it.

You think? Yeah. With our boy Brian, you know, from zanies. Such a great dude.

Brian Dorfman. Great.

Brian Dorfman. Love him. And you know me, I've become like a groupie at zanies. I pretty much hang out in the green room giving comedians hand jobs before the show.

It really is kind of wild how much you love it. I'll be over there just watching somebody and they'll be like, kid Roxy again. And the best is all the jokes that are about you half the time.

Oh, they are just ripping the shit. Shit out of me.

I know chance will. He has some great jokes about you.

He does. I love Chance William waiting for his first full, you know, thing.

It'll happen soon for him. I think he just moved to Austin to keep working harder.

Oh, really?

Yep. He just moved, I think, like a week ago. So.

God bless you.

I know.

Bless you, chance. You know, you got a fan here.

That's a hard working, hard working dude. And yeah, you know what you did, man? You sent me a nice picture that we all took on stage. You guys sent me like, a little frame thing. I have it framed up.

We try to keep it classy on some levels.

Yeah, you do a nice job, man. Dude, I want to say I appreciate you. Yeah, I remember right when I got into town, you reached out and said hello and have just continued to make me feel a part of things at different times and introduced me to some of your friends and stuff like that. And I appreciate that, man.

Much respect, man. I think you're kicking ass. Doing a great job. And I'm right here when you need me, cousin gang.

I appreciate it. I even wore this shirt. I didn't show you the whole time. I didn't see it, but this is authentic right here.

That's I don't. Yeah, I don't know.

This is the.

I don't care either way.

I think it's authentic. If not, then it's fucking Ticketmaster. Got me again, bro. That's all I know.

You steal that from a fucking meth head?

One of those secondary sites, bro. Let me just say this. This shirt is tested positive for a lot of things. Kid rock, man. We'll see you on. On your tour. And thanks for coming in, man.

God bless, brother. Love you.

I'm just floating on the breeze? And I feel I'm falling? Like these leaves? I must be cornerstone?

Oh, but when I reach that ground? I'll share this peace of mind I found?

I can feel it in my bones?

But it's gonna take.