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Wundry and Dr. Suez, broadcasting all the way from Mount Crumpet Studios, which is literally a kid. Seriously, the chance of a bat flying by right now is 100 %. Tiz, the Grinch, holiday talk show. Tonight, he hosts his own late-night show, so I guess he's here to get some expert tips. It's Seth Myers and the perkiest pup in Hooverville, Max the Dog. But first, he has an anger that's no match for management. Here he is, the green grumbler. It's the Grinch!

Hey, before we get.

Into this, Cindy, listen to me. If you see a.

Bat, whack it with one of these various sticks and clubs I have leaning against my cave wall. Mr. Grinch. Those are good eating, seriously. Little paprika, bake for like 15 minutes at 400. Double. Double. Delicious. Get it. Grab it, Cindy. Grab it.

I would rather not.

Here goes dinner.

All right, now this is actually good. I'm getting ready to go on a rant.

And I'm already worked up.

Hold on to your seats, keep on your pants. The Grinch is.

Going.

On one of his rants.

My question is, why are we so accepting of Santa.

Claus's ways? He has an.

Entire North Pole shop full of people.

Who, let's be honest, look like hoos just a little bit.

And then he flies around the.

World entering people's homes through the chimney. It's basically breaking and entering, right? It's a B and E. That's not good. You want gifts?

Give them to each other yourselves.

You don't need.

An elderly Elf breaking into your house and leaving you on Air fry or one of those four-foot-tall doll houses that like pharrow's two.

Also, imagine the damage he's doing to roofs all.

Over town. His weight.

Plus the weight of his slay, and then you got the 12 unruly reins here clipp clopping around on your roof.

And that's all before you add in the weight of all.

The junk he's lugging around. I mean, say some Junior John Cena asked for a.

Dumbbell set or a bench press for Christmas.

Add that all up and that's like.

Thousands of pounds of Christmas chaos. The landing on the roof of your house in the middle of December.

You know how icy and snowy and dark it must be up there. Somebody could slip and fall. It's a.

Yultide liability nightmare.

And then we're supposed to leave cookies out for this home invader. Why don't we just draw a bath for them, too? Here, get in the bed. Yeah, I just cleaned the sheets. Slide right on in there. I'll take the couch. No, it's cool. We'll sleep on the floor. Yeah, go ahead. Don't even take off your dirty boots. Just get into my nice bed.

Where does it end?

Anyway, Merry Christmas, blah, blah, blah. Now let's open another door in the advent calendar, huh?

That was the saddest, merry Christmas I've.

Ever heard. Well, you know what? Nothing makes people sadder than Christmas, Cindy.

You should really explore where that came from someday.

I shouldn't have said anything.

Here it is, seven feet tall.

I made it myself. It's the official.

Grinch advent calendar.

Let's see what's behind the door number nine.

Will you look at that? One bad bulb from Spoil Brothers. One Bad Bull is all it takes to ruin an entire string of Christmas lights. So wherever you see eye-tearingly bright holiday spirit in the form of annoying lights, snuff it out by plugging in. That's right. One Bad Bull.

Available in a variety packs of six from colored to white, large to small, bleaking to non-bleaking.

Spoil the bunch with one rotten apple.

And perhaps for just one night, enjoy some nice, sweet darkness.

That's One Bad Bull for the makers of Missletoe. It's a miniature foam missile you launch at people kissing under the Missletoe. Because who needs to see that? Yuck. You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch. You really are a healer. You're as cuddly as a cactus. You're as charming as an eagle. Mr. Grinch. You're a bad banana with a greasy black pill.

I have to say, I'm really getting a hang of this gift giving Michagos. Now, what I can't wrap my greenhead around is holiday parties. It's the most annoying time of the year. Oh, boy, like the flu or the.

Common cold, these.

Fest of free for alls are just inescapable. I mean, check your.

Mail boxes, check your email inboxes, check.

Your texts, DMs, your Instabox, your Snapchat or machine, your TikTok alerts, whatever have you.

Because you are getting invited.

To these holiday parties, whether you like it or not, and you're going to be making the mistake of actually going to some of these things. It's going to be.

Awkward people standing around holding cups, looking at cheese, a choral.

Cacophony of Christmas music, playing in the background, and.

Sometimes it can be hard to meet or talk to new people, but not for me.

Not for me.

I.

Know just the perfect way to start and end conversations at the same time?

You can, too.

With these Grinch holiday party ice breakers.

Grinch holiday.

Party.

Ice breakers. Oh, and an ice breaker. Means, well, you know that weird coldness that exists between you and a stranger just sitting there like a huge block of ice? Well, picture these as giant axes that cut through that conversational ice, at least temporarily. Okay, let me set the scene. So there you are. You're holding a cup of punch, trying to figure out what stew they're serving. You're at a holiday party and you're wondering, Who are these people? What do I say to them to break the ice? Well, here now are a few sure-fireways to help you break the ice. Let's start.

With an easy one that anyone can use.

Try pointing at someone's mouth and asking.

What's that thing on your lip?

Before they can answer, they'll run off to the bathroom for a look in the mirror. They will then avoid you for the.

Rest of the party. One down.

Moving on, here's another can't-miss ice-breaker. This is more of.

A conversation killer.

Just mozy on up to someone like.

Hello, care to talk about the latest antifungle foot powders?

If they do, well, then you've found a friend. But chances are they'll leave.

You right where you're standing.

Now, I thought this last one was a good one, but I tried at a party last night and well, you know, here's how it went.

Hello? I rarely bathe and.

I need a place to stay for the next three months.

Oh, that's okay. You can stay in our guest room. It's no problem at all. We'd love to have you.

You.

Would?

Really? Really. It is no trouble at all.

But I'm absurdly surly and everything I say, I say it currently and sternly.

Do not be so hard on yourself. We love having guests.

No.

No, no, no.

This can't be happening. Must not letHurt.

So well! Remember your breathing, Critch.

There we go. All right, that was a close one.

Let's go rapid fire now. Here we go.

You look familiar. Aren't you that kid from TikTok who skateboarded into a police horse.

Then got kicked into an open sewer?

Hi, I celebrate Hanukkah. Would you like to hear all the different ways people spell the word Hanukkah? Hey, great party. Do you know what would make it.

Even better? If we got a jump on our homework.

Hello, is it pop culture fascinating? Would you like to read my 500 page manifesto on why Sean Mendez's song about Camila Camilo is really about the climate crisis?

Hi, I know a fun activity.

What if everyone listen to me list all 300 of the different.

Shades of pink used in The Barbie movie, from Ballet Slipper all the way to watermelon. Boom! Nothing tabs down a momentary moment of weakness.

Some rapid.

Fire, rudeness. So there you have it, some genuine holiday party ice breakers.

You know, Mr. Grinch, holiday parties aren't so bad. They could actually be quite fun if you give them a try and just let loose.

Let loose? That's your advice? Nobody wants the Grinch to let loose. It's completely off-brand for me.

But I'll take your note under advisement when I talk to my guest tonight.

A flawless lead-in. We're getting good at this. Just in time for the second to last episode of the season. Oh, well, take it away, Mr. Grinch.

My.

Guest tonight is very charismatic and handsome, and he hosts an award-winning late-night show.

With lots of celebrity guests. It's me.

No, I'm sorry I read that wrong. Sandy, your handwriting looks like a child. Okay, now I see it.

Please welcome Seth Myers.

Hi, Seth. How are you doing?

It's wonderful to be here with you, Grinch. Thank you.

Isn't that great to be on my podcast?

Is it Grinch or The Grinch? What is your preferred term of address?

You can call me Grinch, but I really prefer The Grinch.

All right, well, I want to make you as comfortable as possible. The Grinch, it is an honor to be here.

Actually, just Grinch.

Got it. Grinch, it's a delight to be here.

No, I'm not liking that one. I think we're going to go back to the Grinch.

For you. The Grinch? What an honor.

Yeah.

Now, the.

Elephant in the room is screaming right now. So let's just say what everyone's thinking. I've had my talk show for two months, and I invite you on. You've had your talk show for 10 years. No invite. What's the deal, man?

Well, I have to be honest, until I saw you had a podcast, I thought you were famously media shy. Okay, that's fair. So the fact that you're out in the open now is very exciting for not just me, but anybody with a talk show.

It's a community thing. I'm doing it for the community.

Have you ever left your cave and not committed a crime?

Can you wait like two and a half hours until we're really deep into this interview?

Sure. And as a reminder, I told your producers I only have seven hours.

Okay, you're great.

I'm a big.

Fan of you. Thank you.

But I'm not a big fan of late night, just as a concept.

As a format?

I just like to shut it down early.

Yeah. A lot of people, I think, watch maybe in the morning on YouTube with a cup of coffee. You could try that.

I like to watch Good Morning America at 5:00 PM. Is that weird? You tape it? Yeah, I tape it and I watch it later. Huh. You know what? I'm just going to get over the whole not being invited on late night thing and try to move on to my next point. I do like it. I don't want you to get it twisted. I like this segment, Daydream, which I assume is not for kids, just adults going through a crisis.

Yeah, I know, exactly.

You did one with Rihanna, right? I did, yes. I think that one went viral, but if you really want to go viral, you should have them drink room-temp eggnog. Maybe that would make it go bacterial, actually, now that I think.

About it. Yeah. Ideally, they don't end.

In ER. No, you don't want to do that. But I do like eggnog. I've been known to get into a big.

Hot tub of eggnog. Do you make your own? Do you have your own recipe?

I have a recipe that I've been using for a long time, and it's based on the Redrummond one. And I've judged it up. Do you know how to spell judge?

You know what? The minute you said judged, I was worried you were going to ask me to spell it.

All right, the other night I'm watching Carson, right?

Carson Daly? No, the other one, the blonde one who teaches you how to put on a suit.

Okay.

Yeah, Kressley. Kressley. He's on HGTV all the time now. I'm a big basic cable guy. He said Judge. And I'm looking at the subtitles, and you know what.

They put on the bottom? What did.

They put on the bottom? Speaking in non-English. Now that. What am I supposed to do with that?

That is the most English of words. I wouldn't want to see it in my New York Times crossword.

Do people actually do that crossword every day? I don't have the time.

What do you do with.

Your time? I peel bananas and I don't eat the fruit. I go over all my spreadsheets, which are just lists of different garbage items I've collected. Okay. I harass people.

Because the thing about you is it seems like the sounds of Christmas you find very distracting.

I hate the noise.

You don't like the noise. But then I guess I'm questioning whether or not you're actually doing anything so important.

Not doing important work.

What about the service that I'm providing to the community by doing what a judge told me to do? That's straight from my heart.

I get it now. I get that you wouldn't want to hear who's celebrating Christmas while you're trying to do a podcast. For example, I had to move where I did today's because there was construction in the apartment below me. So as a podcaster, I understand why you would hate the sounds of Christmas, but have you had any Grays among the Green?

I would even call them Grays.

They're transparent. Oh, because I was wondering what happens to Green when green ages.

It definitely loses that verdictry that you're talking about.

Yeah, if it gets see-through, does that mean that as a Grinch ages to a certain point and they become invisible.

Well, I don't know if you've piqued on the Wikipedia about polar bears before.

But they also have.

Transparent.

Fur.

Their hairs.

Are transparent. So should we be less concerned about what's happening with the polar bears? Because I feel like there's a real threat of extinction, but maybe they're just aging to a place where we're not.

Seeing them. You're looking at all these polar bears. It's like they're not disappearing. They're just stressed out. Yeah. These guys used to be blonde.

They're probably stressed out because you're writing all these articles about how they're going to go extinct.

Can't you let them drink their Coke bottles with a winking Santa?

Now wait, as we're talking about this again, you are, and I'm not just blowing smoke, you are iconic.

Definitely iconic. Yeah.

Everybody across this globe knows you. And yet you have managed to avoid doing any product endorsement.

You know, my relationship with the commercial world is a strained one. I got burned pretty bad with the Tickle-Me-Grench back in the late 90s. I really thought that merchandising is going to be a big moment for me. I saw what happened with the Forman grill, and I said, Where's my thing?

I feel like everybody who is big in the 90s must just wake up every morning and say, Where was my.

Forman grill? Where's the Seth Myers Waffle Maker?

I know. I'm waiting. Why don't you have one? Not for lack of trying, Grinch. Not for lack.

Of trying. You show up, you throw all your cred in the trash, and you.

Cash the check. Yeah, and you're the waffle guy.

And then you're just the waffle guy. I'm good friends with the Rapper Future, and he said, Chase a check. He says that a lot.

You have so many friends, which is really lovely.

It's a Motley crew. It's a rugs gallery.

I do feel like you might take this the wrong way.

I love taking things the wrong way.

It strikes me that you, and again, I feel like maybe I've just plated out based on how much you dislike Christmas, but I thought you hated everyone. I thought you hated people.

Well, it's a common misconception. I don't hate people. I hate the things that they do, the ways that they are, the things they think, and the people they be. But it's mostly around the Christmas related holidays. I do hate those holidays that pop up on social media like, It's National Pancake Day. Today's Pancake Day. No, it's not. When did Calvin Coolidge bang a gavel and say it's National Talk like a pirate day?

You know who those are very helpful for, though?

People with no personalities.

Monolog writers.

Oh.

Seasonality. Yeah, monolog joke writers. When the news is very dire and you are reading through the front eight pages and it's just nothing but the worst of the human condition, you're real excited when it's National Open Toe.

Sandals Day. That's the only way I can live. Did you know that? I can really only live the open-toed lifestyle.

Yeah, that makes sense to me. Well, moving on. By the way, you're very good at that. Moving on, not a lot of new hosts know how to use that, so definitely.

You host your show from 30 Rockefeller Plaza, which is basically the Mount Crumpet of Manhattan.

Do you ever stare out the.

Window and look down at all the little people and think, I'm so much more important than all of you?

I can look out my window at the Rockefeller ice skating rink while people skate around in circles. And let me stress how poorly they ice skate. I feel like at least half the rink at any given time is first time ice skaters. And how small they look from my window does make me feel bigger.

Well, it has to, right? I mean, they look like ants.

Also, this is a thing, and I don't know if this was around when you were a kid, Grinch. There's now these walkers. If you can picture an ice walker, like the walker a grandmother would have. They have those now on ice skating rings.

Yeah, they got little slides on the bottom, like little adidas slides on the bottom.

And I don't want to begudge anyone the experience of skating. So I realize there are people that aren't going to get on the rink without it, but that's.

Not skating. Yeah, it's like having the bumpers up at Cosmic Bowling. Yeah. It's like, I don't care about your strike because you're playing pinball. Exactly. Now you'll understand this as a fellow talk show host. I'm sure you've had to sign some contracts, but there's a provision in mind that says every episode I have to ask a stupid question like this, so here we go. What does Christmas Day look like in the Myers house?

What does Christmas Day look like in the Myers' household? Yeah. Well, I've got three children. They are seven, five, and two. That is just a perfect sweet spot of Christmas morning. And they will roll downstairs in matching pajamas, matching not just to one another, but to my wife and I. This is for photo opportunities. It is very important to grab moments like these.

I know you're talking about Christmas, but that does sound really nice to have other people there. Gosh, I'm really having them looking in the mirror at 3:00 a. M.

Moment right now. And there's a moment, not to interrupt your thought, Granch.

No, let me do it a little.

Bit longer. But sometimes I'll look at my son and then I look at my father and I realize it's a three-generation of us.

You just get everybody together. You got everybody there. You got the seven and.

The five and the two, and everybody's dressed in the same pajamas, even though everybody's different sizes. Yeah.

No, it's not going.

To happen.

You're not going to make the heart swell, Seth. I've done like 10 of these, okay? And I'm not going to let it happen with a late night host. I'm sorry. It's just not going to happen. Maybe with my GMA crew.

Right.

5:00 PM. Who I'm going to watch later at 5:00 PM. I'm going to watch the whole thing, all.

Seven hours of it. I know this is audio only, but I can see right now, and I did see a little flutter under the old shirt as the heart. I feel like it almost, but I don't know. I'll take you at your word.

Let me ask you one more question. Does the youngest one ever give a present to the oldest person in the room?

I will only say that the seven-year-old gave the youngest one a present last year, and it's the first time she ever said the word hug. She opened her arms and said hug.

She said.

Hug to the seven-year-old?

Yeah.

No.

Stop.

Get down.

Get down. Get back. Hold my.

Hand, Seth. All right, I'm here.

Hold my hand virtually.

I'm here, Grinch.

I know it's a zoom, but just type the word hand.

In the chat. You know, the seven-year-old and five-year-old walk to school together and they hold hands on the way. They hold hands. I walk a little bit behind them so I can see it.

Get.

Back. Get back, you... Get back with me. How are.

You doing, Granchy? Okay. I feel like watching your heart go through that. I can't imagine it's healthy.

Dude, it's not, okay? Let's see, last question. One thing you and I have in common is that a lot of people incorrectly think we're Jewish. Yes. I mean, for me, they think I'm hoosh. Would you like to do a quick Hanukkah shout out since we're here?

Yeah, I would just say to everybody, even though I'm not Jewish, I do have a Jewish wife and Jewish children. And is very lovely. There is a nice ritual to it that Christmas lacks. And I think over the course of eight days, and no matter how dumb your kids are, you can get it through their thick skulls. I feel like you can tell them while they're ripping open presents on Christmas that this isn't really about capitalism, but I feel like they don't really buy it. They would need seven more days of that message.

Now, they gave me your plugs, so I got to read these. Okay, so late night with Seth.

Myer-don't do it like that, by the way. What? I know I've tipped my cap to some of your hosting Acumen. You don't just say they gave me your plugs. You make them feel authentic, natural, organic.

Well, you have the benefit of a live audience. You and I are just having an intimate conversation. Session.

You saw me convulse and go through a cardiac.

Event, and you just stood there going like, Grinch, are you okay?

Instead of.

Grabbing a defibrillator like a normal person. And we had a nice discussion about the beauty of different Judeo-Christian holiday traditions.

Just get to the plugs.

Late Night with Seth Myers airs-Week.

Nights at.

12:35 on BBC. It also streams on Peacock. Oh, that's good.

Yeah, we've seen a huge bump because it also streams on Peacock. I like Peacock. I can't tell you how often I walk down the street today and people will say, I never saw your show, but now that it's streaming on.

Peacock, big fan. If you went over to Prime, I think you'd go bananas. You got to think about that. You might want to take another look at that contract there. Family trips with the Myers Brothers is available wherever you get your podcast. I have a podcast. Did you know that? Yeah. You can go to Sethmyers. Com for Seth's upcoming stand-up dates. Seth, give us a taste. Comedians love this. I know a lot of comedians.

Give us a taste is actually a little bit better than my least favorite question. When you do press for stand-up and they say, What can your audience expect?

What can your audience expect? Probably some stand-up.

Doing local press for stand-up shows, not my favorite thing.

It's 9/7, boy, 3:00 in the morning. We got SNL Funny Man. Seth Myers is in the studio today. Seth, what could the audience expect?

Everything about that was great, including the fact that I've been gone for over a decade and people say, SNL funny man.

People still say that phrase, SNL Funny Man, like it's in the constitution or something.

I don't have it in front of me. Did you overlap with Data Carvy? Were you there at the same time as John Belouchie? What was he like?

It feels good to laugh with my best friend. It does. Seth, thank you so much for coming on this show.

You know what, Grinch? It was everything I wanted it to be. I really appreciate it.

You are such a peach. And I don't want to tell you how to live your life, but that whole matching pajamas look, it's cute for the morning. But don't expect that you're not going to get some funny looks at Cracker Barrel if you all troop there in the matching outfits. People are going to think you're some family band.

I can take constructive criticism when it's delivered with kindness like that.

Well, love you, Seth. Love you, Grinch. Keep on trucking.

You do the same. It's great to have you in the host field. It's good to have a.

Little diversity. I smell strike four six.

Seth.

Myers, everybody. I'm coming for that guy's time slot. No, I'm serious right now. I like Seth Myers. I think he's an excellent.

Talk show host, but it's a competitive build. And I got to look out for me.

How the Grins stole late night.

How the Grinch stole.

Late night. I like that. But it was so nice of Seth to stop by, especially at.

Such a terrible time of year.

Right before Christmas. Thank you, Seth. See you at the Emmys or not, since you won't be in consideration.

Sandy, rattle off the nerds. You're a vile one, Mr.

Grinch.

You.

Have.

Termites in.

Your smile.

You have all the tinnest weakness of a seasick crockadow, Mr. Greench.

Given the choice between the two of you, I'd take the seasick crockadow.

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