The lack of six pack is really show, and today you did have 10 mini corn dogs for lunch, I'd do it again, roll the intro.

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Anyway, there was an earthquake the other day, a four point eight. So like medium sized, it feels very large to me. I was like a non Californian and also being like a panicky person. And I tweeted something about like how on the East Coast in Canada, we don't learn what to do during an earthquake. And I was like, yeah, we only really learned stop, drop and roll for like fire.

And I got so many tweets about how it's so deeply ingrained into our pod listeners brain now about stop, drop, roll and rate the podcast now that they associate stop, drop and roll more with the podcast than they do fire safety protocol. So I do just want to reiterate that I stopped rock and roll actually still relevant. Like, you know, they changed the Heimlich remover too. Did they just call it the Heimlich remover? What is it? Maneuver right now is an.

That's a new. I know it's not. That was even a Freudian slip, that was because I understand you want to remove whatever is lodged in your fucking throat. That's not the right move. Nice work coming out of your eyes today. I don't believe you thought it was the Heimlich maneuver or if you two have literal tears rolling down.

Oh, you got to carry the boxes. We now have to wipe the tears off my face. So this one time event. Oh holy shit, I can't. Oh God. I literally made, like, roll marks down. My foundation is still beautiful, though. Oh, my God. I cannot believe for my twenty seven years of existence I thought it was a Heimlich removed.

The that's ever happened live on the podcast. Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Let's take a quick look.

No, I don't manoeuvers. Well, honestly, you can't even plan to joke that good. Oh, you're so welcome that sometimes my stupidity and just like lack of general knowledge of vocabulary is highly entertaining. Wow, that was funny. Oh, my God. Please tell me it's not the remover, is it?

Certainly not the remover. Well, you know, the literal definition. Oh, my God.

Something we didn't cover a couple of weeks ago that I think you should have. Yeah. On the sexting game, huh? Would you if financially strained. He was not financially strained. Yeah. You sell the pics. Yeah. Yeah, no hesitation for sure. I really feel as if that's like a win win situation. No, I agree. If there's a buyer who's interested because that's what they're into, like there's no shame in that game. And then if someone gets compensated for that, like, I don't feel like that's.

Yeah, no, I think that's a win win situation for all parties. Are you someone who's grossed out by it? Yes. You're like your own feet. I feel like the relationship that my feet and I have are OK. They definitely don't go to Cabo like my spine does per episode five. But you know what?

I think that if I had gross feet, I would be more grossed out by them.

I guess the thing is, I don't think that I have cute feet by any means. I've seen worse feet. Yeah, for sure. But anyone who'd be willing to pay money for my feet, I'd be more concerned with where they're at and mentally, you know, you want to talk about it. Is everything OK?

Yeah. Yeah. We do have one friend who has a foot thing and we do have a friend. Yeah.

Myself, I was like, I don't have friends with foot fetishes.

Yes we do. We do. Yeah we do. And it's so interesting because and this is like it's never ending entertainment for me personally. I'll show him the hottest girl in the entire world. But like the second toe could be a little longer than the big toe. And he's he's like he can't see past it. Yeah. He literally can't see past it. It's so insane. Not to mention his feet are fucking gross, his feet are nasty.

So his you know, and and also to just even I was like my friend, if my feet aren't like looking, you know, pedicured in nice he'll respond to that story and be like, oh nasty. Yeah.

I get that shit taken care of. Yeah. It's kind of a bully to his friends. I feel like he's a bit of a bully. Yeah. Like a police. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyways so that's just wow. We were just all over the map. I feel like my eyelashes popping off now that like I just cried. I can not believe.

And what's funny is like you can usually find a group of individuals who are equally as similarly minded on Google. And when I popped in Heimlich remover. Yeah. Let me tell you. A barren wasteland. Really.

Yeah, I'm sure it's not there. No. Wow.

No, it's not Heimlich maneuver. You're so right. Heimlich, it's not definitely not a Heimlich maneuver. Heimlich maneuver on dogs, Heimlich maneuver on baby. It has been Googled before. It has been Googled.

And I just I just you know what the questionable thing is, is that like I Googled Heimlich maneuver not that long ago because I wanted to move, like, choked on his food from eating too fast. And I was like, oh, I should definitely do, like just for the future, like, know how to do this on dogs.

And so at some point I would have had to Google it and I guess just nothing clicked. Anyways, welcome back to the podcast. What a fun little intro this has been. Wow. That was just all over the place.

Um, let us know if you would sell for your fee pics or how you feel about that in the comments. That's where we wanna start the the call to action.

Yeah, that's a good idea. I'm just like, genuinely curious if you would selfie pics or if you wouldn't selfie pics. I just want a yes or a no for context. I just never know and will know. Right. Right.

Oh, and if you do selfie pics, feel free to elaborate.

That's very counter-intuitive to what I just said. Instruction once again. Thank you. Fine, fine, fine, fine, fine, fine. You can go with that one. OK, pick one or the other.

Oh let's go with yours. OK, just leave aside a yes or no in the comments. Yes or no. If you would. Or would you. You would not right now. Personally, I think it's a no brainer for me, but maybe other people don't, don't agree.

Have no context, no context pics. Yes or no. Let us know. OK, yeah. We got nothing else this hour huh.

That's about it. Thanks guys for today. I cannot believe it's not Heimlich remove. We gotta move on. My mom is going to love that. She's going to cry at that point. You have to move on.

There's I have this weird thing where I have a few choice words that I have trouble saying for some reason. And in my brain it sounds the same as what I'm supposed to be saying. But I just put the emphasis on the wrong part of the word. But I don't hear it.

This is about an ongoing series of Lauren's brain. Yeah, having a fun field day with facts. Right, right.

Right. No, it's me against me here. Like, absolutely. There's there's no one else in this game. It's me versus me and and I don't know, it's a lot.

Maybe they call it the Heimlich remover in Canada. I don't think maybe it's time I come over here.

I don't think so. See, the problem is that we keep saying Heimlich remover. So it's it's repotting it reinserting itself back into my brain to be correct. That stresses me out a little bit. OK, so I need you to not use the R word when we say Heimlich blink maneuver.

It's only manouver Heimlich maneuver. Got it. Now that we've talked about the Heimlich remover baiba, what I want to talk about a very, very, very serious and important topic. Yeah, you're wicky feet.

Oh, my God. Let me just double check before I state that I have five stars. And have we covered this in the podcast already?

We've OK, so in episode one or two we touched on it quickly and we're like, guys, it's maybe a little too early in our podcast career to talk about it now.

But now I think short weeks later we are here. We are.

Let me just double check that I still have five stars in case, but oh, I've been demoted to a four point nine. I'm so sad. OK, so two hundred and forty seven people have rated my feet at an average of four point nine.

I think we probably should maybe share a bit of context Tomoki feet and not assume everyone in America knows what it is.

They have my shoe size wrong. OK, so Wicky feet essentially is. I don't. By association related to Wikipedian, anyway, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it's not you don't think I'm going to hazard a guess and if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

But I mean, same idea of like a crowd, a crowd funded a library of photos and information.

No, it's crowd sourced, not crowd funded. And I guess that's my. Well, you know, Wikipedia sometimes does ask for crowd funding as well. Right. Anyways, so Wikipedia, their tagline is the collaborative celebrity fit website. So.

So basically famous birthdays and Wikipedia got together.

Right. Right, right. And, uh, just post photos of your feet on your profile and write them. Luckily, I don't think there's a comment section. Let me double check. Yeah, there's not. So it's just photos of feet. And the scary part is, is a lot of times they will just crop your feet out of photos. That context in no context. Yeah, they've just they've cropped your photo and they post them for people to enjoy.

So here's the thing is that, like, I'm not getting paid for this and my feet are being exploited. So I think that I should have a piece of this profile.

Right. Well, let's start the justice campaign. Yeah.

Justice for my feet. Justice for the feet. Yeah. Wow. This is like, you know what? A lot of these photos I'm like I didn't even realize my feet were in this photo.

You know, I don't think that you realize just how important feet are until you have a foot fetish.

I agree. You know what? I've never actually thought of feet more than I have then after becoming friends with our friend, the police, right?

Yeah, right. Do you agree with your score? You know what?

A four point nine. I would take it. I would say that like my feet are. Wow. Rating beautiful feet.

It shows five stars. Even though I do have a four point nine, it shows five stars.

They have me the shoe size seven birthplace Canada birth date nineteen ninety three oh eight eleven oh oh my God.

Ft. Rating stats. OK, so two hundred forty seven total votes. Beautiful.

One hundred and sixty six. Nice forty three. OK. Twenty six. Bad seven. Ugly five. I'm offended, you know what, I have OK, feet by either ugly or bad. That's like really mean.

I love how, like, this type of hate, like, actually hurts me more than, like, someone telling that my existence is like a waste of space.

And the reason I wanted to, like, not let that moment die is that I want everyone to understand in real time what it feels like to really read the comments.

Yeah, no, that was that's that's that's I accept the OK rating and nice and obviously the beautiful rating, but I accept the OK, I mean like I feel like my toes have like a nice descending size, like, you know, I feel like that they're exposed to a lot of people had that second toe that's like kind of like a little weird little long finger.

Um, I saw a diagram one time. One time, one time break down. How if one toe is bigger than the other, that would be an indicator as to the man's dick size. And so like any normal man, I took out my penis and looked at my feet and judge to see whether or not I was correct. I don't remember if if it was correct.

That is the worst ending to the story in the entire world. I need you to follow up next episode with the actual answer to that. Oh, my God, my friend, this is over to the vagina.

Also, why isn't a wicked dick? That would be that would be called pornography. That's why we call it PornHub dotcom. But there's no, like, rating right to dotcom. Are you kidding on porn?

But like I'm saying, just like straight up just profiles of dicks. Can you imagine that this crop of a video, just the dick dick.

Yeah, well, that's what I do want to give you. OK, so anyway, my friend, the other day, this is so interesting. I've got to tell you this the other day, um, so obviously females are all like we have the same parts, but they're not all the same distance and size and like how people orgasm versus like if you can come just from like sex or you need like clit action in here where this one goes.

Oh, my God.

OK, so I have a friend who can only orgasm through sex and she doesn't want her being touched at all whatsoever. Also say this. We are now headed in the sex direction, not going to lie.

We had this podcast planned on the sex of 06, and yet here we are. And then craft girl grabs the wheel and says right on to right.

Here's a quick little detour. We'll go back. We'll go back. So this is no, this is so interesting. And I forgot to follow through with, like, figuring this out anyways. So my friend can only come from, like, sex. And I personally need a little more action in other places.

Kliptown basically feet down. Nope. That's our that's our friend, the police. Anyway, she said that she read an article that if I'm going to mess this up and have to follow up next week, this will be our starting topic. We're going to follow up on both this and thing.

Be a starting topic or might not be, but no, it will.

It will that if this distance. Oh, my God. Oh, good. It wasn't OK.

So the distance between your Jeremy hates the word like vaginal canal.

So the opening, the opening, the insertion area, the distance between that and the clit is I guess can be different. And one distance like shorter means that you I can't remember which ones which.

But like if the story's going so far, you know what, maybe I should text my friend and figure out what the thing was anyways.

I think it's like if it's over three point five centimeters, it means that you tend to need more like klyde stimulation to orgasm. And if it's under three point five, you don't or something like that. I will follow up with the exact measurements and I will measure myself as well. Girls with rulers everywhere. I just know I'm not even kidding. We were at lunch and she was like, we need to go home and like measure and let each other know because we have both sides of the spectrum.

So if it does prove true, that's one hundred percent accuracy rate between the two of us.

I want nothing more than to have something to add to this conversation. Yeah, I just feel like I'm kind of an awkward bystander.

OK, well, anyways, I'm going to follow up. I'm going to find the exact measurement. It's it's over or under three point five centimeters and a centimeter is.

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, we actually yeah, because that was my American friend who said that I wasn't a Canadian friend.

You mentioned that we accept centimeters here and we just do that stupid fucking imperial system. Right, right.

Right, right. Yeah.

Anyways, we're going to follow up on all of these things. I really think that I have a rogue eyelash now after I just like, cried laughing.

OK, so we're going to we're going to detour away from Kliptown back to our regularly scheduled programming. What was your first job?

My first job. Yeah, and how old were you and how much did you make? Because I know the minimum wage is different everywhere, right, state by state, right. The first job that I remember and I'm sure there was some odd jobs, me doing yard work here, they're like my first job that like I did in some sort of a regular capacity with the company. I'm pretty sure was I worked at a distribution center for Miller Lite on weekends and I think I was 16 or 17.

Are you allowed to handle alcohol?

I'm not serving you, definitely. Oh, OK. Not I don't know how exactly we got these jobs.

I just had a friend. It was friend's and whatever, but I worked at Miller Lite and I worked at a distribution center for Miller Lite in Rockford and I made eight seventy five, which was significantly higher than the minimum wage.

Yeah. I don't, I don't know how I finistere finagle this thing right at all. And if you're wondering if I was mature enough at the age of 16 or 17 to handle beer and and be in the back of like liquor areas unsupervised. No, no, no, no.

We drank a lot. We drank a lot. And the are comfortable saying that now is because I'm pretty sure would be on the statute of limitations at this point. Right.

Well, I feel like if a case like breaks and kind of opens like right. In case does break.

But the problem was if there were no broken cases, you fucking bet there were a couple of broken cases by the time we left, right?

Yeah, that makes sense. I mean, accidents happen. Yeah. Yeah. Yavin and so at 16 that was 16. 17.

Yeah. A couple of years I was like, I will always remember the way, like because you're in the northern Illinois and like during Christmastime or holidays and every holiday for the most part is a fucking cold time when you're in the north. Thanksgiving, Halloween, Christmas, New Year's Valent, all fucking cold, Super Bowl, all the drinking holidays in particular. Cold oh, breaks.

It is cold in like cooler than I will always remember.

Like being in the back of the truck outside and being so excited to leave the outside air and go into the freezer because the freezer was fucking warmer than it was outside in the negative 30 degree weather that we were dealing with.

Right. Right, right. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah, Canada just is cold.

And if.

I had to do all over again, I would take that job pretty well at the time and that was pretty cool and I always had a case of beer and it's always something to be like, you know, I know I knew at the age of 17 or 18, I didn't want to be in that line of work.

Right. Because I was in that light. Yeah, no, I mean, it really takes there's there's nothing like motivation than actually doing that job to make you not want to do that job ever again.

Right. To work hard that you're never in that position again. What was your first job?

My first job when I was 15 was under the table and I don't know why they hired I mean, they probably love the idea of be able to pay me under the table was this small ice cream shop that was just like in this little touristy area in my hometown. And for anyone that's listening, who happens to live in St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada, it was important to W.S., which is like this tiny, cute little touristy town.

Are you going to, like, just call them out for just they're not there and they're not there anymore. Yeah.

And whatever the IRS is, it called IRS, Canada, you know, Internal Revenue Service. No. Ciara was destined for Canada, Canadian Revenue Agency, Canada Revenue Agency.

Sera, Sera, Sera. I still get scary mail from IRS and Skaara. Yeah. OK, so you got paid cash so I got paid cash, ice cream for scooping ice cream. I bet you could give one hell of a handjob with those fucking muscles you built up.

Honestly, the right hand I truly like on my forearm of my right hand was stronger than my left and there was a visible muscle. I assure you all six percent of the guys that listen to this podcast.

Yeah. You get it? Yeah, well, I don't I feel as if I feel as if most people know that, like everyone's dominant hand, when your male is a little bit stronger, a little stronger and not, God damn it, we're going to digress into Sex Town.

Here we go. And also, we're not covering masturbation on this podcast episode because we'll probably do it later. I can't masturbate militant.

I mean, why would you if you have a right hand, if that's your dominant hand, it would make clicking the pointer on a computer a lot easier. Why? Guys, that's for us. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Anyways, I got paid under the table at this ice cream place and I worked there in the summer. And did you get allowance growing up?

Um, yes. Did you do chores for it? Yes, I think I got a weekly allowance and I'm pretty sure that the allowance was equal to my age. So like when I was five, I like five bucks for cultism when I was six, seven and 10. Are you kidding me? And I was like, I would like clean the weekends on would give me like seven, eight, nine, ten bucks.

So when you were ten you got ten bucks a week. Yeah. When you're 15, you got 15 bucks a week. Yeah. Rich. Rich, you rich toilets, so, oh, my God. So my allowance was and this I don't think I don't think it ever changed year by year like there was there was no inflation. I didn't get any I didn't know inflation. I didn't get promoted. Absolutely.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I got five dollars a week. But when I started getting allowance, we immediately went to the bank and opened up a checking account and a savings account. And I was.

Twenty a month.

Twenty five a month, please hold. And so I would get five dollars a week. One week goes into checking. I can spend whenever I want with that checking account. OK, next week savings account. Can't touch that account. That's for college. That's for my future. That's for big investments. OK, and then next week back to checking. So spending. I made about ten bucks a month. OK, yeah. And I will say that my parents, although frugal in allowance, I didn't do a ton of chores.

I would say. Yeah, I mean yeah. And it's like more like an unemployment check.

It was like an unemployment check. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And I also too like if I was going to go somewhere with like a friend's family for the day, like they would give me money to buy lunch and stuff like that.

So it was money as needed when I was going somewhere that might require money. But in terms of like learning how to be frugal, I know exactly where that comes from in my childhood.

Got it. OK, yeah, got it. I would love to hear what the what the going rate for allowance is today.

I know. Oh my God. Oh. How much do you get from the tooth fairy.

Um, I don't remember but I do remember a time where I was. Wait, wait.

OK, so as a Canadian, also fun fact, Jeremy, I have a fun story, so tooth fairy, we would get loonies underneath our pillow, which is a dollar in Canadian money for any American to have never seen a loonier at Tunie and Jeremey for a long time, similar to Heimlich remover thought that it was a Twohy, a 180 and a two Allouni and a two.

We want to you know, to me, that's so cute, though. You making fun of me. Well, you don't making fun of me.

I mean, I don't think anything could outshine the Heimlich remover, so I think you're fine. You'll survive, remember.

Kind of sounds like a thief in the night, like, oh, OK. It was the Heimlich maneuver. Yeah.

I do think of a warning to because like I it does make sense, as does the remover. Allouni in a two way I guess. Allouni in a Touhy. I'm fucked up in the head about it. Yeah, well there is a loon on the coin of a bit. The bird huni.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I don't remember. I think a couple of bucks.

So you would get just like dollar bill, don't eat your your pillow.

And it was a combination. I think it was whatever mom had in her purse. So some things are better than other books. Could be a couple corners. It's hard to say. Also is a the same as an incisor. Hard to say. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I will say that I had one less to lose. So that's tough. I got fucked there.

Well at least you made a shitload of allowance which. Fuck. Yeah, sure. I also remember I would stash if I knew I had to like buy something I got I don't know how much money I got for lunch every day like ten bucks or something.

You got ten bucks a day for lunch I think, or whatever.

I don't remember. Oh my God. I got so my mom made my lunch every day, which obviously is amazing. But I was allowed to buy lunch once a week on Friday and I would get five bucks. Which doesn't buy you much.

Yeah. Yeah, no it doesn't. But also private school, high school. I feel like things are just more expensive.

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Thanks Ned. How old were you when you had your first shot then. Fifteen.

And then I worked. Every year passed that. Year like year long, like during the school year as well, or just in the summers or. Yeah, yeah, I mean, combination of both. So at 15 I worked at the ice cream place in Portaloos scooping ice cream under the table.

And then when I went into school, I think when I was 16. Well, you when you're 16, 10 sophomore, I think.

I don't know what that means. I think ten freshman, sophomore, junior, senior year in college.

We don't call it that in college either.

What do you call then 13, 14, 15, 16, first or second year. Third year. Fourth year. What why? That makes no sense.

No, it does make a lot of sense. It's very straightforward. First, your second or third year, fourth year, there's no confusion there.

I feel like you have a couple of friends and family members who have taken five, six, seven, eight, nine years. So what do you call them then? Well, in high school, you'd call it either 12 B or a victory lap. Well, victory lap, that's universal. Like I'm saying, if you took seven years of undergrad, do you really call it I'm in year seven?

No, I think I'd still be like just compared to what year of courses you're in. So do you. Six years. You're still like, oh, I'm here, too.

I mean, you're too good for your time and your to show up.

Meanwhile, people are like, oh, I'm in year seven. Like, Oh, OK. Are you like the Masters or Doctorate?

No, no. Yeah, that's what I mean.

Anyways, I am so 15 and then I think when I was 16 I started working in a grocery store as like a front end person. So at the cashier I eventually got promoted to FastLane. So just so much fun. That was just like touching buttons. I didn't actually have to like really.

Pat, all you doing there was just looking for men, right?

Yeah. I found my first two boyfriends in the police department at the grocery I worked at. Right. So I worked at that grocery store and then and that was after school because I was just around the corner from my high school. So it's very convenient for like part time work. And then I also worked one day a week at the music studio teaching little kids piano and guitar, which is like really cute. And that was four hours after school every Tuesday or something.

Got it.

And oddly enough, we both had that job.

Yeah, that's so random. So what was your rate? Um, my rate would have been whatever minimum wage was really.

Yeah, I think.

Oh no. Yeah. I don't know. What did you make more.

Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

I, I, I started by age 17. I was charging uh. Thirty. Oh, my God. But for no, for like a half hour oh, I mean, I probably would have been was probably 20 bucks for a half hour and then like thirty five forty for an hour.

Oh, I probably made that my entire night of working. Yikes, you got to go out this business. Oh, my God. You know, I made minimum wage for a long time and then when I started serving as server's minimum wage is even lower because you get tips.

And that's what I never look back. When I started serving the post the first place I served at, I did a year of hostessing and tips. Not great. You're like the last person to get tips. I don't know. So you're like you're not really you're not really doing anything.

You're doing something. But like I mean you're doing something for sure. But you like most people, I feel like hostess first that you can get promoted to a server once, you know, like the table layouts.

And then my second year I served for two years at this one restaurant. Oh my God. This was probably the worst job that I've ever had. It was in Niagara Falls. So like the touristy of all, we went forest areas.

Yeah, that's right. We had a drink there. Yeah. I took you back there and there are exactly twenty seven stairs in between the first floor and the second floor. And you know, everything would be fine if you got to keep your section just on one floor and your section wasn't one floor, but it was really fun because the kitchen was on second floor and the bar was on first floor.

So typically when you're done in a restaurant, people need drinks and food. So I probably had the nicest legs that I've ever had in my entire life. Those two summers that I worked serving at Shut Up Shoeless Joe is I mean, when I interviewed for it, I called it like a sports bar.

And he is like, no, this is family dining. This is family dining.

And you refer to it as nothing but family dining. And then I was also forced into wearing yoga pants, a low cut top. So like the family dining thing was a little questionable. Same for moms and dads.

Yes, my mom's no dad, but I did make relatives.

I worked pretty much from like 10 a.m. until maybe like midnight six days a week.

And I have never worked harder in my entire life than the summers that I worked at Shoeless Joe's.

Yeah, I. I feel like once I figured out that my music side of things paid a little bit better for like that. I like high school so like I could work an hour or two or whatever. Right. That's like I set up, I literally set up a studio in my basement, shut it down. If it allowed me to have two drum sets and like several fucking things that made the entire neighborhood go fucking crazy because it was so loud.

Marimba, we're looking at you.

Marimba survives the whole thing. Right. And so I set that up and I remember I was like teaching drums and singing or whatever.

Wait, that's very entrepreneurial of you. Yeah. I mean, like once something that I want to, like, even touch on this podcast, like, I think that I had a I had an unhealthy obsession with making more money. I did not have the right obsession with making more money without having to invest in things to get there. Because like I said, it's not too long ago I was looking at prices like drum sets, marimbas and like things that I thought were very, very expensive at the time.

And they still are. That could be wrong. But like, when you have the money and you're like, oh, I just had these two drum sets in this and that, then I'd be able to have students or whatever. But it's like, well, just because you are able to, like, find one or two students, I mean, you can find 30 or 40 of them even if you buy them. So I feel like I was spending all this money.

I was very much set up in like an entrepreneurial sense for like a sixteen year old. But it was like a lot of overhead dick for a fucking child. Wait, that's so smart.

So you ran over like the studio let's thing. So I started at a studio and then I realized I'm spending they're getting forty percent just for having the lights on. Right. I own three fourths of shit. Anyway, let me just buy the rest of it and set it up in my basement.

Interesting. Interesting. And the big piece and I, I was resistant to this in the beginning. But what you realize when you are a 17 or 18 year old kid is that moms and dads that are paying for you to teach their kids a similar rate as they could someone who is sixty or sixty five. Right. Has it's not. So they don't care about the drums. They care about the fact that there's going to be an hour where a seventeen year old kid that the kid looks up to is going to spend with them and thinks that they're cool.

I'm sure they thought you were like the coolest shit ever.

So what I realized was like I didn't like like babysitting, but the idea of I'll I'll even come pick you up and drop them off or whatever you had pick up.

You had valet service. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Glau or grabbing kids like OK, I'll come, I'll get done with school and then I'll quit.

I'll pick up your kid, I'll bring him back to your place because you work till five or six or seven. Right. I'll come back, we'll do an hour and a half lesson or whatever and then I'll head out whenever you get there.

And the cash tips that I would get at my God real if I never talked about this before. Wow. That's so smart. That is so smart. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely had like the same addiction to like making more money, like the service that I provided to tables. Oh my God.

How would you describe it as generous.

The word generous has been just been like forever you know, a little tainted for me now is was a generous service.

Yeah I was, I was to but I was really good at being flexible for my customer, you know what I mean?

So if you have certainly not flexible anymore, truly. But if it was like an entire baseball team, like I remember one night I got assigned to this like this baseball team, they came and there was like twenty dudes. And my entire job that night was just to keep them happy and drinking and fed. And they take me, I think three hundred dollars that night because they just had like this. Insane tab, so even 15 percent on their tab might have been three hundred dollars, but those were like those were like the best rate because not only was it fun, they like low key.

They like not.

They kind of turned a blind eye if someone wanted you to drink with them in, like, that kind of scenario.

Right. And so there I was, like on our eleven of like already doing the lunch service and then doing the dinner service and then doing the baseball service and drinking. And it was it was. Yeah.

So as a server, did you ever give someone your number. No, I think I had a boyfriend, I think I mean, you know, I'm just been like a serial dater my entire life, so I don't think there was a time where I was ever, like, looking to also connect with people.

How many numbers did you get? More than five, less than 10. OK, yeah, it's a solid number. Yeah, well, because, I mean, the the customer the customer base of the people that were coming in were all over because it is such a touristy place. And also it was so interesting, too, because like tipping around the world is so different everywhere you go. And so depending on where they'd come in from, like even if you gave the best service, you might get zero dollars tip because it's just like not part of their culture to do that.

And I mean, like, personally, I try and, you know, like acclimate to whatever the tipping culture is, wherever I am.

But some people just don't do that. And that's OK. That's fine. That's OK.

I definitely do still have dreams.

Now, to this day of having too many tables and not being able to, like, fulfill all of my orders and get to all the tables and everyone's mad and it's a nightmare that I probably have like once every six months still based on my history of serving.

Oh, I did serve at this really fun place that was like an Irish bar. And I got to wear this like cute little plaid skirt. I would go as far as saying it was a kilt, but it was a really cute little kid killed my misplaces called the Kilt and Clover.

Oh, the Tilted Kilt is the Tilted Kilt.

That's a fun name. Yeah. Yeah. This place was great. It was. It's Hooters with with with kilts. Oh yeah.

I, I don't have the boobies to work at Hooters but the kilton clover Hooters is is accessory agnostic. No I don't think it's maybe just a picture down the place. Sure.

Sure. How does Hooters exist in twenty twenty literally.

I don't know. I don't know. But I got to wear like a cute little beer. Sure. And like a little cute plaid skirt and it was, it was fun. I mean honestly there's I could really get that.

We sure. Yeah we could, we could. That is a thing that we could do. The old Miller uniform, which was. Oh my God. Yeah. But no, I feel like serving even though it is like crazy hard work in terms of just like memory I was on who wrote all my orders down because I just I didn't want to mess up. I don't even want to risk it like I probably could have memorized. And I feel people love that.

And I think it's really impressive. But I like it's more impressive when you just like, don't fuck someone's order up. Right. People are automatically mad when that happens. Yeah. It was so much fun, even though, like, it was crazy hard work and really long hours. And the minimum wage I think at the time was like eight twenty was server wage and the rest of the world was making like ten, something I could tell you right now.

I don't think the world's making ten, fifteen right now.

Sorry, sorry. Like the rest of my friends in Canada or even Ontario, just working minimum wage jobs. I think minimum wage was ten something and then I was making eight twenty a server hourly wage and then tips on top of that. So was that your first job? What was your worst job?

I mean, I think in terms of like stress serving was the hardest job. Honestly, those twenty seven stairs like that, that really fucked me up that summer. Like I was in probably the best shape, but also just like the most mentally deteriorated because I was working like 60 to 70 hours a week, like I saw no one that summer.

I think I left that summer making like twelve K and that was like going to last me more than the college year that I was going into, because like during college, I would work the summer and then go back to school and then just like do school and which just like budget out whatever I made in the summer. But yeah, I've never busted ass harder than I have at that job.

When did you start making money on YouTube?

I didn't start making actual money until I was in third year university.

Got it. Got it. So you had a job up until third year. I had to drive all the way up to I was a fourth year, yeah, so I had to do an internship and stuff. And I think you pay for that, though. What have you paid for the internship?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think it was, yeah.

Abargil third year I worked from 15 until twenty one when you graduate.

Twenty one I think. Twenty two. Yeah. Yeah. So I would have worked fifteen to twenty one.

Twenty two to three years before whatever it is. Yeah. Our internships like all unpaid or paid in Canada. I mean I think it's the same as here.

It's like they differ when they're not supposed to be unpaid anymore. Yeah I know it's frowned upon. I mean that was the biggest thing when I. When college, the thought of having an unpaid internship was the that's where I guess like knowing that I grew up like middle class where I was from and going to college. Seen people take unpaid internships made me realize that was the next level of privilege that you could afford to do an unpaid internship. Hey, no worries.

Go ahead and put yourself in a career path to set yourself up for success. Right. Because everything else taken care of.

That's where I knew I was like, oh, there's nepotism thing. I see where it's going to start. Oh, my God, that's so. I've never thought about it like that.

Oh, really? Yeah. When I came out to L.A., that was the biggest thing that I noticed. Like I said in college, I'm like, OK, cool, you can like pick which internship or I'm working over here. This is that like the name was more important than like the money that is coming in. Like that is not going to be my reality. And then coming out to L.A. and seeing the amount of people that like I mean, the idea of mailroom, that's the closest thing to an unpaid internship that gets me like you are making like the very first question that like me and CAA and Utøya impaired and they all ask you is like, this is the right call it thirteen fifty.

What are you making? Thirty dollars and fifty cents. We need to hear that. You confirmed that before we even move on with the interview. Right.

Which our talent agencies, by the way, in Los Angeles, if you're not familiar with that. Right. I bet. Yeah. But the idea of just like the internship that pays nothing back sets you up and gives you like the your your next to the action you're close to or whatever, just like you can sit there and just wait until the opening pops up.

I'm just like never my case of a go getter to like settle for that. I don't think like I was too much of a go getter, but also was like, I'm sorry, how much going to pay? I can't I can't afford to live that. That's not an option for me. And even though some of those jobs are interesting to me, it was never going to be that was not going to be what was going to get there. So I was like, I can't do that.

Were you so you went to a private school. So does that mean that like your private high school, private high school, private high school.

So like what was like? I feel like we both grew up middle class.

What was like what we're like the classes like your school. I feel like it's so interesting, like hearing people's backgrounds about like the people that they grew up with and like the scale on which their school is kind of that. Right.

I think that in Rockford has a a really hard time figuring out their education system. OK, I would go so far to say is that it's fucking been one of the worst in the nation many times on the public side, private was very much just like better than that. I see. And I was I feel like I was one of the less affluent people at a private school that like even if you're less affluent there, you're going to be more affluent than the average person on the public school side.

But like the the everything that I saw for the most part was like, oh, they all have more money than me. Right. But I think that was a much more realistic way to grow up in the sense of just like, OK, this is all achievable. You don't have access to it now, but you could. Right. But it's not going to be handed to you. Right. Seems like an interesting mix between the two.

I mean, I think honestly, being middle class, I think is a very like like I'm so blessed and I think I'm I'm grateful, honestly.

Like, I think that you learn so much being middle class because it's like you have the basic necessities filled. And like, if I was going to take an unpaid internship, like, my parents could have figured it out. And I'm sure if the opportunity had been, like, so insane that we couldn't say no, they would, you know, pay for the things that I wouldn't be able to afford had I not worked in the summer. But we didn't have things handed to us, I think, which teaches you so many core skills that you carry throughout your life.

I mean, absolutely. And I also think it just like especially when you leave high school and no one's like telling you how to operate and live and exist. That's when it shows the amount of, like, wealthy friends and I feel like are still only existing because their parents are going to allow them to exist like that far outweighs the amount of people that, like, started on the opposite end of the scale. And just like us, except that what it is like, we're fighters.

They got through that shit. Oh yeah.

100 percent. 100 percent. You learn how to bust ass. Yeah. I went to I feel like I had, like I said, kindergarten.

I went to a private kindergarten, a Montessori or whatever your artistic abilities came from, like literally I think back to what I was learning in kindergarten and it's insane. Like I learned how to cursive write. We spoke French for an hour every day and like it was like the the free learning structure. So like, I would go color a world map and then go read about dinosaurs in the corner in the desert.

But it has been like, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do this. Yeah, about thirty five percent through everything, finish nothing. I'm going to be like, I'm done.

But I think that's OK though. I think that's like what I mean like I don't really know anything about it. I was in kindergarten, did one year, but like I learned how to sew a button on the fabric and then I don't remember what the initial like swap was to go to public school. But I'm not going to public school from I mean, grade one up until college. And my first school was a grade one until six at elementary.

And I would say it was in like a rough neighborhood, but it was in like a lower to middle class. And I think, again, you learn so much and you see so much. My middle school was only grade seven to eight and same thing, lower to middle class. And then when I went to high school, I did French immersion, which.

Where you go to a school that offers all of your classes in French, so wouldn't have been like your choice, by the way. Yeah, yeah. You wanted to do that. Yeah.

I can't speak a word of French anymore. Right. That's not true. But like, basically. Right. Like, I was thinking myself. Was it like thinking like your mom was like, I think you should really do it well.

So, you know, what happens is that, like, you have to commit to that in grade six. So you start in grade seven and eight. And even if you hate it, you can like switch over obviously to like the English program. Right. But I had done the French immersion grade seven and eight. So the friends I had made in my French program, we were all going to go to this other school outside of our school district.

And also, if you get good grades, I think people just expect you to, like, try and push yourself and do something harder to do it in French.

Right. Like, let's do what you're going to do. But now in a new language, like you don't know. And so that was my high school and this high school was like in a middle to upper class area. Were moving up. Yeah. Moving on up to like Range Rovers in the parking lot and like Jaguars and all this stuff and all the fancy cars and stuff. And it was so interesting because it did have that French immersion program.

It was like kids coming in from all over St. Catherine. So maybe it wasn't. Yeah, no, I say middle to upper class still. Yeah. But it was interesting to see and make friends of people who were just in like a total different class, I guess, than I was. And again, super middle class, like we went on family vacations and stuff, like I had a great life growing up. But I mean, we were by no means like Rich.

Right. And yeah, it was just so interesting as I started being friends with some of these other girls who had, like, crazy houses and had all like a ton of cars and stuff. It was so nuts to see that experience.

So, I mean, like, I think that I had such like a a scale to see and learn from that.

I, I don't know. It's it shapes you.

Well, it does. And I also think that there's a world where growing up, not on the east or west coast, I mean, in like New York, Boston, Philly, D.C. or like L.A., San Francisco or whatever, there's a completely different world between the two coasts in America that I think everyone forgets about. And once they lived or lived in those coasts like we live in a bubble.

Oh, yeah, I live in a bubble totally. Every time I go to the grocery store here in comparison to what it would be like, like elsewhere. Yeah, it's night and day. Like, I had my my idea for how much things cost is probably. So it's inflated to a degree at this point, unless you're a Trader Joe's, right. Of course. But like just thinking about that, I think it just like I would I'm so glad that I was prepared in the Midwest to move to the coast, not vice versa.

Right. I speak to my friends out here sometimes who, like, speak of things as if they're just like facts.

And I'm like, yeah, that's true here. Yeah. But everywhere else. Not the case elsewhere.

Yeah, no. I mean it is definitely a bubble. And also too, there's so many, especially like being in like the YouTube community, there's so many people that have come into money now because of the online fame or whatever you want to call it. But I'm so glad that I had like a very grounded and modest life growing up. Before you come into this, I can't imagine a either starting rich and ending rich and just like how it would change me, I don't know.

I don't know, like makes me a little nervous, but, like, I'm just grateful for, like, having that entire.

Yeah, I don't know. I think that, um. Do you. Do you think you had a quality education growing up? I think so, yeah, yeah, I think so. I would say so. I mean, in yeah yeah I think so. I think also too like the public schools that we had in St. Catherine's, like I know obviously they vary per region and district, country, whatever.

But I think I went to a good public school. We obviously had like, oh my God, we need to do a whole episode of like high school scandals.

And you have scandals at your high school.

Yeah, like teacher student relationship types of scandals and stuff. Yeah. Yeah. We just do an episode on that.

This reminded me a bunch.

I don't know if those are outside the statute of limitations though, but yeah we go will try to dive into them because like you always I loved high school. I think it was a ton of fun.

I think my high school sucked really wide. I think that there's a lot I think there's so much fucking wrong with education. I mean.

Yeah, but I think that's that's also a lot of schools.

The way that my brain works and the way that I feel like I learn best was, um. So. Counterintuitive to the way that everything was just like, well, this is how it is and that's how it's going to be, right? And it just like I. Certainly, as someone who got seven eighths of the way through college and had great grades and should have finished, like I dropped out and I don't regret it at all. Yeah, one semester left.

I don't care. And I think the reason I feel that way is like I almost want to take it to the system in the sense that, like, there are so many ways to go about getting knowledge and a lot of people don't have the benefit of, oh, I'll just spend money for four years, five years, not make any or not make enough. And when I come up with a degree, I'll wait even longer because eventually I've got the means to figure out how to make it work.

That's not how a lot of people are. And I think that we need to be a lot more forgiving of that and figure out a system to say if you are willing to work hard and learn along the way. Right. Positions for you. And if there's anything that I hope that comes out of, like the Internet and people having to be home and not have to like travel and all these things with coronavirus, I hope that we find a way for more people of more means to make similar types of earnings without having to do five, 10, 20 years of school.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know for sure. I totally agree.

I will say that my university experience was so much memorization, so much memorization.

Right. That I would spend, you know, four to eight hours before a test memorizing. I would dump that knowledge onto a test, you know, get that 90 percent. And the minute I walked out that classroom door, I dumped it like, thank God I did not have to go into the industry that I went to school for because I know nothing, literally nothing.

I mean, as someone who. I feel like in high school, I thought I was just so stupid and I looked at the way that anyone who's in school or has been in school recently can relate to the fact that, like the multiple choice or filling in the blank or whatever, there's an answer the teachers are looking for. And if you don't fill in that answer, you're wrong. Yeah, no, for sure.

And black and white to you for everyone is frustrated that way or thinks creatively. Right? That's how the world works. My job is to challenge people every single day and convince them to buy something they didn't even know existed before. I got on the phone with them that there's school will not teach you how to do that. And I think there's just a kid so important people that are like struggling and trying to figure out how to work really hard, I'll make it or whatever.

It's not always the case. Yeah, I, um, I feel like I. So in Canada we've got college and university and university.

Right. And what's the difference between so so in in Canada University is your four year degree.

You get your bachelor's degree, you go to university to get your masters. You're any kind of like grad degree. And college is typically two years and you receive a diploma. They also have like like hybrid programs now to where you do a few years at college.

And if you're at university and you come out with a bachelor degree and it's longer got it. But college is always I feel like at least when I was in high school and they're putting us through like the careers classes that college is more hands on.

And I absolutely should have gone to college. Like, I don't regret anything and I don't want any need to have change because I hated my program. I was depressed and then I started my YouTube channel and here we are now. But I should have gone to a more hands on program that was like, you just experience more. I feel like and maybe I'm totally wrong because I did not go to college in Canada. Right. But it just felt like it was so much more hands on.

And I felt there was a stigma around it that, like, if you're smart, you go to university. I mean, it's the same in America. And unless there was a specific trade that you had already, like, decided that you want to go to college for, and there was like a very clear path there is that if you had good grades, you were just ushered to go to university versus college. Right?

Well, it's similar in America, but like when I went to the University of Kentucky, so my first I went to a community college called Rock Valley College. I was, to your degree, associate's whatever. I went there for a year knowing I was never going to graduate from there. I picked that because I knew that things would transfer to wherever I wanted to go to. Right. Right. So I left there after a year and transferred those credits to the University of Kentucky.

And I originally I initially enrolled in the College of Music at the University of Kentucky and then transferred to the College of Business and Economics at the University of Kentucky. So I think my degree would have been from University of Kentucky back to college if I forgot to get a degree from both. I got a degree from the college that was a part of the University of Kentucky. OK, I have no idea.

I don't know anything about the American school system. Then I said, fuck it. And they left with like fifteen classes, left my my fifteen classes, fifteen credits left.

And my mother said, why do you do this to me, why do you do this. And I said, Mom, I'm going to be the business man in L.A. I can't delay. I must go. I must go now. I must go now. I have the calling. Do you used to have like a little bit of school that right?

No, it's gone. It's gone. Yeah. Oh, congratulations. I feel like that's like a massive feat.

No, well, I kept on to it because, like my money, I was like, you're going to take a hit on your credit score.

Oh, I do remember us talking about this when you when you decided to stop paying just like the little because you thought it was like helping.

But it's actually pretty good for so long because like some minimal amount of just. Right. OK, I'll keep it then, because they were saying, like, if I didn't have them any revolving accounts, I don't know, personal finance. What what a hell of a class that I should have taken. Yeah.

I feel like I did take a personal finance cause we didn't learn anything. Yeah, I know my own taxes though. That's that makes me want to throw up.

I probably will want to throw up. I get audited in five years like could do any of this. Right. They'll look through it. They go you you didn't try to cheat, you did. But you know what I think though? I think I'm paying way too much in taxes. That's why I'm gonna have to fucking stop doing it.

I think I pay too much in taxes for a different reason.

Anyways, I want to hop back into money real quick. OK, ok. Did you have a.

Did you have, like, a milestone or like I thought of like how much money you would make as a kid before you started making money?

Oh, yeah, for sure. Do you like what was it? I remember being like, if I can make over 80 grand a year like that is rich and that is more than enough. And I'll ever need, I think based on just like what my parents made and what like I thought like my expenses would be based on like where I would live.

I think I was considering 80 though in my hometown in like small hometown, where it's like you can buy a nice house for like four hundred thousand dollars.

And just like everything is much more affordable versus like if I were to have stayed in Toronto, but growing up I definitely was like eighty thousand dollars a year is like my benchmark for success.

Isn't it funny that you have like that. No. Like who knows where 80 grand right from. Right. Right. Yeah.

Well I mean my peers are pretty open about their finances with me. Or maybe I was like a curious challenge, just like Mom, how much do you make. Right. And so I had like based what my goals were based off, like how we as a family were very happy and what they were making. And like I felt like there were things that like I couldn't not do.

Right.

You know what I mean? Like, I didn't feel like we were limited as a family. Like we were all very happy. We'd still afford to go on vacations. Everyone had, you know, a suitable car.

Yeah, I think my mom I think my mom having a single income and then having a step dad come in for a few years, that she made way more money than put us on this weird roller coaster of like. Oh, interesting of of going from doing fine to like, oh, how's it going to work. And then like college was I think a lot more scarier for her from a financial standpoint. Oh my God. Yeah. Did she ever alluded to me having a lot of her stress and when she was very hard on me in high school.

But you have to get better grades. You have to get better grades, better grades, because like otherwise, you're not going to be able to afford to go to school because I can't help you kind of thing. Yeah. And I think because she works she's a court reporter, a stenographer for the state of Illinois. And if she works around like lawyers and judges and people that are making more money than her and I think she constantly had like look up at the sense of just like of how they were going to do it and knowing that she didn't have access or those options that stressed her the fuck out.

Right.

But I, I the thought of six figures as a child, I think was this like insurmountable. I'll never get there, but it'd be really cool, that kind of thing. Totally that that I don't know where that materialized out of. I know. I know. That was just Divino.

Well I think also too, it's like when you're making minimum wage and you're busting ass after school and you're like, if I did this every day for eight hours, 40 hours a week, and I'm making I think it was twenty seven thousand dollars a year when I was working minimum wage, this if I worked a whole year and this is what I'm doing, I made twenty seven thousand dollars and I feel like I can't do this, this and afford this.

And it's like I know that I need to make more than this.

And I think that's like where it comes from too is like and I think like I definitely, definitely, definitely like if we were to spawn a child, like having a job as a kid, it's like a spon the child at this point I have a kid.

But if we were to spawn a little alien you want to bring back from last night's news last week.

I hate kids. I don't hate babies. I don't hate babies. I said I go listen to go listen to this episode. Anyways, if we were to spawn a child like, I just think that, like, having a job is so character building and shaping, it's so important because it really teaches you the value of hard work and like earning money and balancing your finances. And it's so crazy to think about how some of my peers, especially those who like, started YouTube at a young age, just like go from being in high school to like making millions of dollars every year like that is such an insane thought to me.

And I can't imagine like a skipping the years of like working for next to nothing and not, I don't know, like it's so crazy. It's so great.

Like imagine being sixteen or like imagine if I was fifteen and I was making my five dollars savings. You know what you know, I think I think my mom made me so mad. Also, if I get the story wrong, I think my allowance did go up to ten dollars at some point.

OK, yeah, I know my mom is at home listening, like being so mad that, like, I'm not doing her justice in, like what I was given.

But it wasn't about what you were given, it's about what you did with it and look at you and look at me balancing budgets and to actually balance the budget. Frugal is ever you. That's somebody else. That's all that. Yeah. For sure.

As as they should they I should not be trusted to balance my own books and stuff like that.

I distinctly remember the only financial milestone that is in my my memory in my entire life is not around making money at all. I'll always remember the milestone that like that, that I feel like characterizes my, my, my, my financial well-being at this point is the time that I was in the grocery store and I was putting things in my cart.

And I realized when I got to the checkout, I hadn't been adding the dollar amount up of what I was putting in the car because I knew I had enough money at the time. Yeah, that wouldn't bounce my account.

Right. Insufficient funds that we have ISF. Yeah, you don't want to see that, you know, there was the day that I was the really the only memory in my entire life of where I've made it. Right. That was it seems so. And it still seems large now. Honestly, that was like the moment like coming out and back in L.A. and figuring things out was like, I've done it, this is great.

I can eat without having to count my dollars. Right? Yeah. That was a huge milestone.

I think Minuto money is just so weird because it's such a new industry. It feels like it could be fleeting. So I save and spend a lot of times the mindset that this could be gone tomorrow. And I think that's why it's so important to like invest and be smart with your money and not go and just like dropped thousands and thousands of thousand dollars on designer things every single day because, like, I've just shaped my perspective on like Internet money as something that like we don't know what the future is like when AD and YouTube had its whole thing, where advertisers went down for like a little bit was I called in some it had pocalypse, ad pocalypse, ad pocalypse.

And I just feel like it's fleeting. So it's I, I spend and save as if to as tomorrow I could make zero dollars and I have to figure out what I'm going to do next. And everything that I have in my account right now is what I have and move forward with. But I spend and save on the idea that it could go away tomorrow.

Yeah, I don't really do that.

But I know you have a more traditional job. Well, kind of working tech. Yeah. But like, I don't have a contract with an employer that says that I'm going to make this amount of dollars for the state of California at will employee.

I could be fired for anything. But yes, I agree. I have a skill set that is well, I have a skill set and experience that more people understand. Right. And until I figures out how to sell products better than me. Right, we'll be fine.

Yeah, but I agree. You have a newly found career and it can be turbulent.

Well, yeah, your income's all over the place. Mine's more consistent.

And then also health insurance.

And know what I would get for like health insurance that came with my job. Oh, my God.

But, I mean, the I guess the thing is very much like I think there's a lot of new types of careers and passions and things that will well earn someone a paycheck, but it might not necessarily be the career that they have forever.

And that's OK. Yeah, no, totally. For sure.

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So you're really fucking rich. Oh my God I'm.

So are you. Yeah, but you're you're actually rich. So are you. No, I'm not. Yes, no. Yes. No, I'm Midwest comfortable, OK?

You'd be more rich if you didn't spend so much goddamn money on our speakers and sound downstairs. Oh, that just put that out there. It's obviously a non-negotiable. No, but OK. So disclaimer we live in a bubble. Yes. And we I work in tech and I'm the poor one in the relationship.

So it's really more to you. But something that isn't like I think we talked about this when like I paid rent and like that was in conversation we have.

But a conversation that has been more stressful in the past and I think is a big stress point in everybody else. Relationship is throughout school and having student debt and like trying to figure out whatever is like when one person in a relationship is on another planet financially than the other one and like transitioning and growing up and like showing your fucking old habits from like how you grew up, how that all kind of comes to life in the middle of a relationship. That is some shit people deal with.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think I think it's tough, too, because like, when you go into a relationship and just say you start living with someone, you're paying rent and you're paying bills like groceries, phone bill, whatever it is, I feel like everyone goes into it.

Being like this needs to be fifty fifty because fifty fifty is fair. It's half.

You have me in a zero sum game. Absolutely. A zero sum game. Exactly. It's fifty fifty but there's just so many other layers to it. Yeah. Like a layer where you make a lot more money than me.

Sure. But the layer that you have health insurance and a more stable job and I'm in a turbulent industry you are you.

But I think that's something that we get right. And this is not something that I think is maybe we learned it in past relationships. I don't know. So we get right is like very good at spending and investing in the same bands where we're at like together. Like, we like to do things together. We like if we want to buy something or if I want to buy something like it together thing, whatever. It's not a fifty fifty in the sense of like oh let's cut it this way.

Sometimes it is but like if I'm more excited about something or if you're more excited about something and we want to both like participate in it, we both invest or participate in that financially in like our band. That makes sense.

Right. So these are great examples that we just bought a squat rack. Right. For our gym. And so it's like with that you have to buy the bar, you have to buy the weights and you buy like the cage that actually pulled it.

It's thirty four thousand dollars right there with the noise. And because that was a purchase that Jeremy wanted and I was like, you know what, I I'm impartial. I don't really need it, but like what I use it.

If we had it, then yes. Like go to games. Board games. Yeah. Like I'm done with the chess game. That's me. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I just games. I would love one cup size floor but I don't think of the squat rock it's going to give that. I was thinking you were like, I would love for you to get on that and make some games. I'm like yeah maybe I'll play some of that for sure.

For the sake of your chest games. No, but because that was a purchase that Jeremy was going to make, regardless of whether I was going to chip in or not, I think that we do a great job of like being very fair and does it like. Well, I know that, like, I will use it if we have it. So I think I paid I paid for the weights. You bought the cage in the barn? I bought the weights.

But I think I think that it is it works because we have a natural understanding of that. Right. I think it doesn't work when one person is on one planet and is very, very generous about things until they're not right. Vice versa. Right. Is like, well, we can't do anything because you can't chip in that. Yeah. We're on the verge of like, oh, we'll do it. Don't worry about don't worry about it. And then fifteen arguments later.

Well you don't really in for anything so why would I care.

So it's like that like insisting it's like having to like get better or having to grow. It's, it's ok being on the same fifty fifty zero sum game level. It's not OK if the person who is greater or lesser then doesn't want to be, does want to play ball about like growing and progressing at the same rate.

Yeah. Yeah I know for sure. I mean I've definitely had friends who have like you two friends who have had issues with that and struggles. I think also too, there's a lot of people I think we've touched on this before about they see the lifestyle that you might live and they are, I think, one envious, but also see an opportunity.

And I think it happens a lot in L.A. where there's a lot of Club Tracer's and a lot of people who see that the lifestyle might look easy in some way.

If you just look at the end result, you don't realize how much of a pain it has to get to there. Right. We're ready to use come easy, come easy. But like. Oh, but the cutting, the editing, the being creative, this and that.

And what else do like the eight years that might have gone into it to get to that point. Right. And so I think there are a lot of people too, who are like, well, this person does nothing all day and they make this much passive income. It's like, why wouldn't they pay? And they feel as if they deserve or it's only fair if the person, like, pays more.

And so I don't know. I think there's so many different toxic scenarios. Again, situational it is.

And also the biggest thing that I think people deal with in the Midwest from where I was, is like family money. Oh, interesting. Yeah, like the the concept obviously is a family money out here, don't get me wrong, but especially in the south, in Kentucky, there's a lot of people that have had old old man like, oh, they make money.

Oh, railroads. What. Oh, you what? I mean, their family has a great horse farms and it's like, oh, that didn't just come overnight. You had had money. And the outside of the painful amounts of racism and sexism of like, just like oh my God that still exists. The classism that goes in from just like well if you guys are serious about this, we're going to need to get the family lawyer involved if you're going to oh my goodness level.

Because, like, our family in our state obviously needs to be protected. Yeah.

It's like life is complicated enough trying to figure out how to make more money and get better and like, go to the next level. Can you imagine having somebody else's family put their their opinions on that at the same time and like not having to consider that and just going free and not having that impact your day to day like that's tough. Oh my God.

I literally can't even put myself in that scenario of like having the family lawyer. Thank God we both come from means of like our parents being like, yeah, you'll figure it out.

Yeah, literally. Literally. I know. I know. Oh, my God.

Life is stressful. Stressful. And I think I think money is a stressful thing. And like, obviously, I am in a very, very grateful position to be able to say, like, more money, more problems.

But it's it's like things get easier when you make more money. But there are a lot of things that get harder when you make a lot of money. It's just everything changes. Things are different, things change.

I think the I'll go back to it again. I think the hardest job to have ever is the single parent trying to make money at the same time. I always think that's the hardest thing in the world. That's in superhero shit right there.

Superhero shit. Yeah. Yeah, I totally agree.

Um. That's all I got. We had a of heavy yeah, heavy shit we started in Kliptown, took a little detour over there to down for a quick sec and literally were to get off this podcast. And I'm going to Google what the centimetre differences from the vagina to the clit to figure out, you know, that situation. And then tonight we will bust out the ruler and measure and figure that situation out for next week. So stay tuned.

Riveting content coming at you next week for Episode nine.

Not sure. I don't know. We've lost count. There are so many things that I want people to participate with in this last episode. Yeah, I don't even remember them all at this point. But we will do a good job of hopping in the comments after this one. Yeah. And trying to get some some reading through maybe some responses.

Helliar. I have nothing if I wrap this thing. OK, all right, got a podcast, is this Ben with my podcast as well?

Oh, this has been called her daddy.

No, no. OK, um, no, not that one. Pretty basic. I wish yeah, yeah, I love Remy. I know and Alicia, I know, you just know. I know, you know, I like everything I know about Alicia. Yeah. Just remind me your boys. Yeah. You and me are boys. All right. Well, on that note, hope you enjoyed this episode of Wow Till Now. And we'll see you guys next Tuesday.

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