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Go to HBO Max Dotcom or download the app to sign up and start streaming today. The fun part, a legal disclaimer. Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four is rated PG 13 Wonder Woman nineteen eighty four available to stream on HBO Max for thirty one days from theatrical premiere. Welcome back to The Future, I'm your co-host, Daniel Driscol, joined today by the host of Blind Date, Mark Goslar. Hello, Mark Paul. Hello, Daniel. And excuse me for sounding like Punky Brewster today.

You know what? I if it's any consolation, I don't like the way my voice sounds every single day of the year. So it's OK if you got a little thing. Did you like sleep weird or wake up weird or.

I don't know. And in this in this current world we live in and if you have a scratchy throat, you may be going down for the count for a while. That's true.

I shouldn't give everything any sniff. I don't know. I threw like, it's crazy. Like every every every time I'm thirsty, I'm like, I'm done. No, I don't laugh about it a little. I've been I've been you know, we've all been doing our part here, quarantining and especially here in L.A. And I've been working out a lot. And I'm very fortunate. When I did the the show pitch, I treated myself pitch was where I played a Major League Baseball player, and it was criminally cut short, as some fans will say on Twitter.

And I tend to agree, I think it was one of my better shows that I've been a part of. All star cast, Kylie Bunbury. You can catch her on Big Sky. Now, Dan Fogelman, who was the executive producer, writer, creator of This Is US, was our show runner along with Kevin Falls. And Kevin Falls was our show runner and he was also the show runner of Franklin and Bash. So it's a really cool show to be a part of.

Anyway, getting back to the the scratchy throat and my gym, I treated myself to a gym when I did that job. I tend to do that every every job I get. I treat myself or I treat my family to to to some sort of perk. And the perk for pitch was this great gym that I now have and I have jiujitsu mats in there and, you know, full weight rack from Brog. No, we're not sponsored by Rogue, but that would be a great sponsor now.

Yeah. Pelletised track and we. Yeah, yeah. We recorded some of the initial initial episodes when we were trying to get a sense of what it would actually be like to be in the same room as one another and, you know, feel each other's like what you want to call it radio chemistry on this thing. No, I saw the gym. It's it's phenomenal. I described it to anyone who asked me where I was. That day is like it's like a real gym that those are the words I used.

Yeah. It's as if it's not a home gym. It's a gym gym going back. I used to be a amateur cyclist and I used to race almost every weekend and something that a lot of people didn't know that I did. But I would I would cycle to and from work if I. I remember I lived in a small town, not small anymore, but Valencia here in California, in Los Angeles. And I would bike from Valencia to Sylmar where our studios were, and bike back and I'd get forty miles a day of of sorts.

That's not a that's not a short ride.

No, it's not. I, I, I started this actually when I lived in Valencia. I was, I was working in, in Century City and one one day I thought, you know, it's forty miles to back and forth. I used to commute on a motorcycle when I was doing NYPD Blue and I thought one day I'm just going to bike it. And I got on my bicycle and I rode to to the Fox Studios in Central City.

All this to say the reason your voice is. Yeah.

So the reason my voice is scratchy is I used to be a professional, a professional. There's there's a slip right there. I used to be an amateur cyclist who used to race in the Category two division, which is pretty much pretty close to pro while you're racing against Pro, but you're an amateur. Anyway, I digress. I got back into cycling through peloton, and then I kind of wanted to get to take the bar one step further. So I ditched the peloton bike and I got this thing called a smart trainer and it's made by Wahoo.

And you hook up your bicycle, ten speed, eleven speed and you go on these programs. I'm using a program called Swift, Z., Swift, and I'm racing against other people and I am like loving cycling again. Like the one thing that kind of deterred me from cycling was being out on the roads here where I live. It's pretty busy and you need to go thirty minutes in either direction to kind of get away from cars. And now that I have this smart trainer and this program, Swift, I'm I'm getting on a bike every day and I'm on the bike for over an hour and I'm racing people and training and losing weight and just loving being back on a bike.

So my my voice going, you know, but all that to say.

All to say, my voice is a little scratchy just because I've been putting really hard efforts on a indoor bicycle trainer.

I was hoping the story would end with you saying. You lost a race and you grabbed the nearest Coke bottle, you could just chewed glass and that's why you're suffering. I was hoping would just be another left, but that's OK. I know quite the opposite. And, you know, tried. It's been a dry January for me. I mean, it's been really hard to have a dry January. Actually, I slipped a little last night. I had a little nip of a little dream of some some single malt.

But it's been a tough it's been a tough year, too, by the way.

I started on the fourth or whatever Monday was. I started like I let it ride. I let wet December crews right on into the first weekend of January. I've cut off alcohol also this month. And boy, oh, boy, what a what a fun, challenging month to to take away that one. So you didn't have a drink on January 6th? No, I didn't. And weirdly enough, it was I found myself like actually checking in with myself about like what I do to when when the world gets a little too stressful to process.

I was way more tempted to order like a large pizza with hot wings than I was to have a drink like that was actually the more I realized I was, the more pressing need in my body to, like, drown out being awake with just like hot cheese and hot sauce. I didn't either. I did neither. I persevered. I didn't let the terrorists win. We should get political right. There's a good podcast, but we do have a show to talk about.

Let's get right into it. This week's episode, Blind Dates. In case you didn't do the homework, here it is. Zach is Kelly's date for her birthday until his 10th detention lands him suspension. He agrees to take Belding's niece Penny out to avoid trouble. Only Kelly had to move her party. And now it's the same night as Zach's blind date. Lisa sets up Jessie with Brett, who Jessie fears is too short. Zach train screech to replace him, taking out Penny.

Since she doesn't know what he looks like, Slater has screwed show up to Kelly's party as Zac, with Penny hoping it will upset Kelly. But it doesn't. She's moved by the effort Zac made and kisses him also. Jessie got over the hate thing, the end and we're in act one just like that. We're into act one just like that. There's catch for handling. Yeah, we've been doing this all along. Isn't that fun? Oh, also, I do have a tiny, teeny, tiny correction that shockingly, Mark Paul, people love to jump on my back every day of my life when I mess up on this podcast.

But last week I look, I don't know why I love here.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know why. Yeah, I don't know how they got the idea. We're on a zoomed together and the joy that comes across my face is that it's fun to see you happy. That's why I wake up in the morning. Yeah. But last week I incorrectly said that if someone died making a joke now about like the Elvis joke was thirteen years ago on last week's episode, he died thirteen years prior.

I said that was nineteen ninety eight.

Nineteen ninety eight was twenty three years ago. Not you, not Tracy, not anyone listening. Caught that because in all of our heads I think nineteen ninety eight feels like thirteen years ago. It's not twenty eight is thirteen years ago. It would be like a joke about Heath Ledger dying, not Phil Hartman. So that's the correction. And shockingly no one caught it because I don't think any of us want to believe. You know, it's so weird.

It was twenty three years ago, I thought when you said that it had been thirteen years since Elvis had died, which is. Oh, no, no. That's even I mean, that makes that's that's broken logic. But you know, either way. Well, dear. Yeah. Either way, I didn't really give a shit. What you were saying is what it comes down to. I wasn't I was half lost and neither did Tracey. Perfect.

OK, but also I'm just going to put it out there. I never see these things on social. Like I never get to see people jumping on your back, as you say. Yeah. Would would your fans or your your your haters, could they please tag me so that I can actually. So they do sometimes. Yeah they do. They like it's like, it's like tattling, they like want to make sure the teacher sees it, they're like, they like, they do tag you.

Sometimes I'll make sure I want them to tag me all the time, tag me even tag me twice. Yeah that's tag me twice Goslar. Everyone knows that and we're in act one in the halls of Bayside for. Yeah. Kelly's Kelly's got a birthday party coming up. Yeah.

And this is the audience is really into this episode to hot crowd.

It is a hot crowd and I see from your notes that this was originally Season Two's opening episode. Yeah, that's correct. So I'm going off the production codes on Wikipedia. If they're wrong, then the whole ship is is sinking a lot of ship talk this week. Yeah. This was originally going to be the season two opener. And if you think about how the prom lines up, like the relationships would have been going backwards if this was in order of airing.

But yeah, this was the original opening. So we were on hiatus. And yeah, this would be the first episode back. It's an interesting episode to come back to. Why do you say that?

I'm curious. I don't I don't know. It doesn't feel like a big I mean, usually when you come back from a season, the season opener and the season finale are tend to be bigger episodes to. To be more like trying to get an audience involved for the season, but these were all. I mean, yeah, I see the kids. I mean, they did do that, though. They did. To your point, the prom episode is that I mean, you come back into season two and it's like, whoa, first of all, Kelly is so poor she can barely afford to eat.

That's crazy. I'm glad to learn that. And also, Zack and Kelly are like an item now, like they do kind of use the prom is the correct way to open season, do so. And it opens up with Zack coming in and obviously talking to the camera. He's got detention. He's happy about it, holding a big gulp.

He's happy about it. I thought it was an awkward choice to be holding a big gulp. Yeah, that didn't strike you a minute, did I mean, I of course, I thought Dumb and Dumber like it shouted out my brain. But no, I mean, I actually wonder, like, when did I should've done the homework on the homework? When did big boobs jump on the scene. Were you like, I'm so glad you think she knew.

I'm so glad because I did the homework. You did the homework on the home because I'm a nerd when it comes to things like this. Right.

So you can say because I'm a professional, that too Big Gulp started in nineteen seventy six and it was through 7-Eleven and Coca-Cola at the time.

Coca-Cola, like a serving of Coca-Cola, a serving would be six ounces and Coca-Cola really wanted to push their product on, on the public. Coke was six ounces. Yeah well the little bottles can was a little monoclonals. Yeah. And it came would probably say it's two servings. OK, yeah. And so they really wanted to push their product.

They told 7-Eleven, look, we have these these these sort of carriers that hold thirty two ounces. And 7-Eleven was like, there's no way, no one's going to no one's going to win.

No American would ever consume that much soda. You're crazy, right?

And so they said, just give it a shot. And the way that these old Big Gulp containers looked, it looked like almost like a a milk carton. It was square at the bottom. And 7-Eleven was like, you know what? All right, fine. Coca-Cola, we're going to put it out there. We're going to we're going to put it out. We had two boxes that they had to get rid of. They put it out into their biggest soda consumption region, which was the ozone Orange County here in oh, I guess I would have guessed Midwest, but I was way on your way out because seven eleven back to the Midwest.

No, but seven eleven was a SoCal staple. Sure. And so they put it out in the O.C. Guess what, in a week they sold the the entire shipment of those two boxes of these glass, these containers and became a thing.

And then they started making bigger, bigger containers, bigger gulps. There's a big gulp. There's super big gulp. There's double gulps. There's extreme gulps. Now, just I'm not a soda guy, but please. Yeah, a big gulp. Thirty two ounces is three hundred and sixty four calories.

Yeah. I mean, that's that's that's like eating.

So now you want a super big gulp. It's forty four ounces. Five hundred and twelve calories. Double Big Gulp which is a double gulp. A double. A double regular. Yeah. It's just like basic seven hundred forty four calories. Sixty four ounces. I don't even I wouldn't even be thinking of my me personally, I wouldn't even be counting the calories. I'm a type one diabetic, so the amount of sugar in that thing would be enough to send this guy straight to the hospital.

So I just decided at the house, one down. So it's an interesting choice for me to to hold this big gulp. And actually, I'm looking at the the what does I called the container. The the cup. I mean, I it's not a cup because it's like a cup of popcorn in there. The I mean, receptacle. How many cities. How much time you got my ball. I like I like receptacle. The fact that that's good clinical.

The receptacle that I'm holding, I'm not so sure that that's an actual Big Gulp receptacle, because if you if you remember, like the Big Gulp receptacles that can actually fit in a in your car holder, you're a cup holder, right?

They wanted it funnels down. Right. And even the biggest of gulps have a tiny little bottle act, which is like maybe a metaphor for, I don't know, someone smarter than me figure out what that means. But yes, they want you to be able to go mobile with your golpe. I did a teeny bit of homework here on the homework where you first of all, you're delighted you're not you. But Zac, I get those confused sometimes.

Zach's delighted to to say he's on America's Most Wanted. America's Most Wanted premiered in nineteen ninety eight excuse me, nineteen eighty eight. There I go again. Two years before this. One thousand episodes over a thousand and court over twelve hundred fugitives, including seventeen on the FBI's most wanted. Thought that was pretty neat. Didn't realize that show had such an impact in the world. And we get Jessie here saying something in the year 1990 that, like you will hear, I mean, I think people still say about like it's it's twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, like it's the 90s kind of of calling out what year it is to explain why things are progressing.

I thought that was cool. And here comes Zach with his annoying proclamation of, you know, just trying to rub it in Slater's face. But Slater has a perfect response to where here who cares? And he I mean, so we did point out that a couple of episodes ago was like the end of their rivalry. But this obviously was shot before the rivalry over Kelly. Excuse me, but this was shot before that. But, yeah, I mean, he is like Zach is.

I wonder if I be into this if I were Kelly, like, he's almost like you kind of want to play a little cooler than like, I know. Fawning over. I mean, maybe you don't. I mean, it worked out for you, too, but like, he's like fawning over her in this weird way. It's also kind of like she's mine. Kind of odd. Kind of odd for high school.

It isn't the the possessive sort of relationship that he has with Kelly and then Slater wanting her back. I'm like, really? You think Slater should just be moving on to bigger and better? He's just he should just be like rearview mirror. I don't know. But like but playing playing that to the guy that she's currently with, like, you know, saying to her to seem to act like one day I'll get her back.

It's like, really she's the only girl. It's a big school now and yeah. Building this. So what do you we've talked a lot about the inappropriate relationships that adults have to children in this show.

How about this one?

Just the principal roaming the halls, tapping everyone on the shoulder to be like, please date my niece.

Now he's soliciting his niece, basically. Is he soliciting the niece or is he solicit? I'm confused. Are soliciting works. Maybe that's a good thing. But it seems like he's soliciting the the students. Like, would you I don't know how that works now.

Now, I'm trying to flashback to every episode of cops I've seen.

We're soliciting gets used and there's no there's no exchange of money. Right.

To kid show so that you can't exchange money for legal stuff. Either way, it's wrong no matter how you slice of the pie. This is not good. It's not a good thing. I never experienced this at my high school. My principal never was like, please date. My niece never happened. Also, another building balding joke. Just warehouser. Yeah. Mm. That's actually it's, it's a funny joke. It's a good joke. I did, I did, I did giggle as boys I have a problem and I say just wear a hat.

That is a funny joke. I got to hand it to the writers on that one. Yeah. It's fun at his expense. I feel bad for them. Yeah. And they show me like it's a one two punch. It's first. First you're balding sir. And now here is a a little thought bubble of you is a very, very poorly made up woman. And then I love how Screech says that he will date anything. Right. I mean, that's what you know for for here.

Here's a penny. The niece. What a name to Penny Belding. Yeah.

You should have her own show. Really. I mean, she sounds sounds quaint. She needs a mercy date. And then and then he walks off saying he'll use a beeper. Did you ever have a beeper? No, I missed I missed the wave on beepers. The closest I had a beeper, the closest I had to a beeper was like the bubble gum they used to sell in little beepers, like fake beepers with sticks of gum. That was like a hot commodity for a brief glimmer, but never an actual device.

Did you ever chew that gum that was shaped like a cigarette and then it would blow? Oh, yeah, for sure.

Those are I mean, how are those allowed to be sold to kids? Absolutely. Well, they were cool.

It's dangerous or I was or the snuff like, you know, like choo choo. That was even that was even. No, no, no, no. Chewing tobacco. That would be like in a can. Yeah. But it was actually beef jerky was shredded. Oh no. I have that now.

I never quite like dipped into that Venn diagram of like a snack food and tobacco use. Now that's what it is. Yeah. That's, that is insane that all that stuff was, you know, readily sold to children. Different time. Yeah, I remember. I remember having a beeper. I remember having a pager.

Did you ever use like codes like nine one one and like that kind of stuff. Like I don't remember using codes, but I remember that you could like you learn a drug dealer. Yeah.

You could like, you know, eight zero zero eight five. Right. Boobs. Sure. Seemless. Yeah, that's that's still funny. Speaking of funny, Zach sold the school to the Japanese. So McPaul Paul, I want you as you know, this is still like a class of sorts. I really want you to start tracking, like when they reference Zach's shenanigans, just how unhinged and also straight up illegal they are, because that would be crazy to sell a school to Japan.

Yeah.

And then the lame ass joke that I make of Honda High School, I mean, not good, not good fun, but you were a Honda guy, so it kind of fits the right. I am. I love Honda. You know, I still love Hondas at this point, though. I think I was a Yamaha guy just started out there because we talked about that I my first motorcycle, my. A street bike was a Yamaha FSR, but I am a Honda guy now, I mean, I have Honda's in my garage and my brother used to work as an engineer for Honda and a lot of friends over at Honda Civic work throwing it out there.

But that joke falls flat, Honda High School. And then I'll I'll tell you the other the other joke that falls flat is not until cows give Pepsi, sir. Yeah. What's that about? I mean, maybe maybe Utsunomiya, mind you, just slam thirty two ounces of that crap. So you're like you're like you're buzzing off of a caffeine.

No wonder Zack is the way he is. Yeah. No wonder. Unless of course Pepsi wants to be a sponsor, in which case it does a body. Good.

Are you a Pepsi or a Coke.

Um, I'm generally a Coke guy, I will say. And I also, again, just shout out to diabetes. Had to switch over to like sugar free sodas a couple of years ago and Cherry Coke Zero if it's in stock. That's my that's my go to other lately market, especially in this dry January tobaco, just a sparkling mineral water has been a a real treat. Real treat. I love it. What about you, Coke or Pepsi?

Growing up, I was a Pepsi guy because my dad worked in a an aluminum plant that made the cans for Pepsi, Dr. Pepper. And so I, I he would bring cans home. Oh, well, that's yeah. Raw cans of like Pepsi. And I was just the Pepsi guy because of that. Because of that reason. But taste wise, I don't know. And I'm not a soda guy. I really don't give a shit.

There has been cleared. Put some, put some. You know actually I don't do that anymore.

Remember, remember putting like thing. Did you ever like put like Captain Morgens or, um, Southern Comfort or Jack Daniels and Coke was like a thing for you, like a Jack and Coke.

Sure. I mean those those got me through college. Absolutely. I have fond memories of Jack. When was the last time you had a Jack and Coke?

I could I could not.

I actually it's so funny you say that because I was there. I was listen to a song that referenced Jack and Coke and I was like, I actually stopped driving first. I was like, when was I could not tell you. I mean, it had to be I'm not even sure. I mean, maybe I guess Obama was president first term. I don't know that that's a ballpark. That's not too far.

That's not too long though.

I yeah.

I mean I'm thirty three so it's like it was like I was like twenty two maybe. I don't know, that's like about what I would have to guess.

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Did you notice that this is a completely different day? We're all in completely different wardrobe.

No, I didn't. Wait, what? That's crazy. So, look, that's not OK. So you're in you're in your cozy sweater gear, which I like. Yup. Like that outfit looks good. Yep. Builtin giving you such a knowing look as you walk away like I'm going, I'm going to get them in. OK, so I see we haven't seen Lisa and Jesse yet. Or did you did you did see Jesse. Yeah. Well they were at the lockers.

Oh my God. Yes that's right. And she was like I mean she was like in this outfit. Yes. And then they had something. Here comes the teacher. We can talk about the teacher. We can go back to the will to Kevin Costner. But also, you know, there are Zach and you're in a totally different outfit.

OK, well, maybe. Yeah, I mean, this is a different day that makes no sense. Very confusing timeline. I didn't notice that. Good call. Real quick, the girls mentioned or Jessie mentions Kevin Costner is our dream man. He would have been thirty five in nineteen ninety. So yet again, these girls are just into older dudes. I would even I would be too young apparently for Jesse. And in her high school interest, Mr.

Hudson, played by I am Hobson kind of similar name. They're one and done teacher original Broadway cast of Amadeus. I thought that was cool. He was also Drake the butler from the film version of Annie in the nineties. You may have seen him in Barton Fink Dracula, an episode of Seinfeld and personal favorite Hudsucker Proxy. Great movie if you want to unwind with a film after this podcast. When I saw him, I was like, Holy Brouse, Batman.

Yeah, right. I mean, he's got a couple of big ones up there. I mean, isn't it isn't interesting though, like, OK, so he was on he was from the original cast of Amadeus and was in Annie like. These teachers, I never I never realized this because I never looked it up there like so many of them are Broadway or cartoon or like they occupy this space, a performance that's like larger than life by definition, and it works in the energy of these classrooms.

Yeah, I mean, I don't I don't know if the casting director knew these people or if they actually went in and auditioned for these roles. I had no idea about that process for any of these actors. But, you know, I think these these actors are great. And, yeah, they're their body of work says many ways they're overqualified.

I mean, that's like the exact bottom line there. They're overqualified, which is not uncommon to perhaps public educators in by and large. So right on the money. He asks a question. I thought it was interesting. And I don't know if if the writers, again, were in the room thinking this would be fun, little Easter egg. But he asked a question about genes and he says if if the mother passes along a browny gene and the father passes along a blue eyed gene, what do you get?

I couldn't I, I was wondering. I did this in class, by the way. I don't know if you guys had this in your schooling like we did. We cover genetics in this kind of stuff. I don't I don't know the answer. What's what's the answer?

I will tell you what the answer is because my mother has brown eyes and my blue eyes.

OK, you get Hazel, you get Hazel. OK, there you go. All right. Well, at least that's what I got. I got I got like a greenish color hazel eye. And I'm just wondering if, like the writers thought, others be kind of fun, too, to ask Zack Morris, who is, you know, half Asian. Yeah, I think that's what was going on in what you again, you don't think that I know.

I lunch outside the room and being like, listen, what did you don't know what goes on in those rooms at your apartment? They're at lunch. I'm telling you. They're like that's where the eyes are. That's why they're thinking about eyes. Their eyes are looking at lunch. It's outside, it's getting colder. We better wrap up this whole scene. But yeah. Mr. Hudson, a quiz in the class on genetics. There's also a little bit here.

I always focus on the background artist now, per your guidance, Mark, Paul, uh, like when Zach is reading the note, at one point, one of the background artists in the background is like distracting another background artist to be like it's the guy all the way in the back and with the purple long sleeve shirt in the flock of seagulls hair, he's like, yes, he oh, no, it's not a flock of seagulls hair, by the way.

I've noticed him. No, and I I've I've I've noticed him in other episodes and I've struggled to figure out like, where have I seen this look that he has this haircut, like this cut. You know what that is? Michael Hutchence from in excess. Oh, man. That's what that reminds me. I've got it. Yeah, I see that. Yeah, that was certainly kind of around that time. That's it. There it is.

Well, he he makes a choice as a as an extra to like he's doing a lot of giggling. But then he like taps the girl next to him to be like I mean to share a moment. It's a it's a weird choice. I will say that. Yeah. There it is. Yeah. See, he like Distractor. He's like, hey, over here. Like, what is that. You almost sense the acting. He's acting. That's acting to be like, look over here now.

Yeah. I mean, again, it's a fine line for the background, right. They have to look like they're part of a scene. But don't take the focus away from what's happening in the front. Right. But so I guess I guess that's kind of fair.

I mean, yeah, like in a regular situation, in a normal classroom, you might tap the person next to me like, boy, oh, boy, this guy is really in trouble. So, yeah, I guess I guess you're right. I'm being too critical. Also, we've talked a lot about how things get cut in this show for syndication. I believe a minute thirty was the number of of the amount of time that I get cut from every original run of the episodes.

There's only two beats in Zack passing notes and I suspect call it a hunch. There was a third beat in the third beat got cut because you don't need three beats. Zack passing notes if we got to lose 90 seconds. Just a hunch I have nothing to base that on except except comedy, and then he gets detention, right? He's in Belding's office for detention.

You do a cool little like spit catch thing. Can you? Was that like a thing you did?

Was that because you're good at it? I'm good at I do this for my kids. I am good at catching things in my mouth. And I like it's coordination.

It's like, yeah, I don't know. I learned it at a very young age, I guess to to be able to throw like grapes or marshmallows or things that won't chop your teeth of you if you happen to dinging off your your caps there. But I do it for the kids every once in a while. Like how high can daddy throw this thing and then catch it in my mouth, the whole spit thing and and catch in your mouth.

That's kind of gross. It is kind of gross. I'm surprised that I actually was doing that.

It shows you don't care. But he's a bad boy. He doesn't care about his own space. I know. But I must say, I'm going to I'm going to give myself a congratulatory tap on the shoulder here. But to do it seated. Right. That's that's very difficult. I have to be very precise with the spit up. And I can't move around to too much for the the catch yet because you can't get under it.

I mean, your ear is under it is you're going to be so if you if you mess up on the launch, you're not going to be able to to to bring it down to safety. And yeah, we talked a little bit about the term soliciting earlier. I just want to point out that like Belding's whole thing of like, I'll get you out of suspension if you date my niece, it it's definitely blackmail, but it's also kind of prostitution because it gives Zach twenty dollars.

Yeah. So there you go. It's like paying her he's like paying him to do it. It's like actually he's like in this version Zach is the prostitute because he's getting the money to go on. He's a Penneys the John. That's, that's the math we're working with. Either way you look at it, he is soliciting. It's not soliciting. Someone's been solicited. Yeah.

And if there was a no soliciting a sign on the door, no one's gotten in because they're soliciting happening one hundred percent. And in the halls of Bayside, we get you know, we just get we just find out, oh, brother Kelley booked her party and the max was already booked. So she had to book it the other night. And oops, it's on the same day as Penny's date. What the hell is going on at the max that they're booking all these parties?

And like I'm curious about the financial aspect of it.

Like, how did what do you what I mean we can get into when we see the party because no one's eating or ordering anything. But like, what is what does that mean for the Karpovsky family that had to, like, pay Max to to block it off? I, I don't know. Well, we've already established that the max is in financial. He's not good with his finances.

He's he's he is off. He's off with money also. Whereas Max, in this episode during that party like nowhere.

No we're not sorry. Yeah. And we, we look out for you but you're you didn't get the call that day apparently.

And also I just want to point out in this in this scene and I didn't pointed out in the very first scene that we see Kelly, but she looks awfully tan. And this could be coming back from a hiatus. We would all go back to our normal lives. And, you know, she was she would go back to Long Beach, where she was from, and I would go back up to Valencia, where I was from. And who knows, maybe she was at the beach during during her hiatus break and just being outside, you know, enjoying the sun.

Yeah, because she is a California girl, remember outside.

Yeah. I don't remember also. I don't remember outside. Right. No, I mean also and also, you know, I talk a lot about everyone's outfits. I think when Tiffany was on, she mentioned how like she never had any complaints about how Kelly looked. What a fun outfit for Kelly. Like it's like so color like I just I love I think Kelly really does get the the most like some of the more timeless. They're still cool outfits.

There's also a background artist, though, as she's leaving that was making a real meal out of walking up the stairs in a similarly cool outfit. I thought she was trying to, like, upstage Kelly's outfit. It's like a a pink a full pink getup with white boots, something you probably wouldn't wear to school. Yeah. Yeah. She she was definitely taking the attention away from Kelly at that moment.

Yeah. It's like kind of like like I don't know, she's really like really going for it. I like that this podcast is mostly become about just watching the people in the background. That's fun for me though. I never did it on the first watch. And when we're in act two like that, Zach showing up to Belding's office with just every single thing you could buy to show you had an injury, like if you showed up to traffic court with that, they would laugh you out of the room and be like you.

This accident never happened. Like you're clearly a scammer. Yeah. And right when I walk in building gives a look that he knows, he's like, come on, it's too much to show up with one.

You showed up with everything that's a scam, show up with one thing that's a story and he says a skateboard accident, which is like a nice generic injury. It could be anything but what kind of accident hit your like what do you like training for the X Games like? It's pretty serious if he fell off a skateboard and did that.

Also this I love I love the the building. This is so needlessly twisted and convoluted of like bring a single red rose to the mall is like, what the hell are you you're going to just bend your knees and drop her off at the mall knowing no one hoping a guy with the biggest scam artist in the world is there with a rose.

So I'm going to give it I'm going to give you an acting lesson here that I that I'm almost at the end of this scene. Zack turns off the camera and gives an eyebrow raise.

One is enough. Yeah, OK, I decided to do I decided to, yeah, and you gave me a few but it doesn't work. Like I feel like Don Barnard who directed this episode should have should have given me that note. Right. I would have. I would have. I would have taken it. Sometimes actors don't take notes. I would have taken that note. I would have said, you know what, Don, you're right, because to me, it's just not needed.

Yeah. I wonder if if it's I mean, I guess the second one is needed because you're still talking. It's not needed. But you're it wasn't like the thing we talked about in editing where you kind of hold it. Right. Like you could have been like double bumping to hold the thing longer after the line. I see what's happening that that specific eyebrow bump. I love what we get into here.

It reminded me so much of home alone because what happened is Belding says, like, she won't recognize you and then you repeat it like she won't recognize it's the eyebrow bump in home alone. It's I made my family disappear. I made my family disappear. And then the eyebrow bump. This episode came out a month before home alone, so they couldn't have stolen it from you. That's not how movies and cameras work. But I thought it was almost like a reference to a popular thing in pop culture.

But I guess I guess it wasn't it was just you and McColley were bumping brows the same time. Yeah. Unlike a a film where you get multiple takes, we didn't know you couldn't nit pick every single take here. Yeah. So, you know, maybe we.

And why would you want to I mean who's going to see it 30 years from now when this is months for kids on Saturdays. Give it up so they get the double eyebrow raise one too many. I should have just said my line and given the eyebrow and been out, but instead I gave Ben have too many. I'm sorry guys.

That's overachiever. Yeah. I mean, you don't overstay. You're welcome. Yeah. In the girls locker room, which is an interesting place for a show about teenagers to occupy so much time. The girls have all modified their gym clothes. I they notice that, but like every single one of them has done something to, you know, change it up, which you would you imagine Lisa would. That's her character. She loves fashion and but all the girls did.

And that wouldn't fly at real school. No, the gym coach would be like, excuse me, girls, not a no, get out and don't come back till you're dressed correctly for, you know, dodgeball or whatever the hell is going on. Oh, wow.

It's the blind date game. I incorrectly on your intro this week forkball said you're the host of Blind Date. It's Blind Date Game. Sorry about that. I'm sure the fans were confused. And when the fuzzy pink fantasy sequence here of this game show and you'll notice the curtain for blind date game is the same curtain used when we saw Belding as a woman earlier. It's the same backdrop you already paid for the curtain. You might as well use it twice.

Anzac's, this is Zach's dream of hosting a game show from PIN to the mat. I mean, it came back, it's not referenced, but he always wanted to host one and now he gets to in a dream. I'm digging that suit. Double-Breasted suit. Little nice. The tie is what's going on there.

Yeah, I actually used to have ties like that. That's a very 90s thing to have ties like that. I probably still have you in my closet just as a leftover, but it'll be back soon so just hold onto it.

They'll be coming back. They always do. Yeah, I'm taking that. I'm taking my look right here.

You could that could. I mean, you could. I feel like you could have that tomorrow. I feel like you could just whip that up. That wouldn't be that in that crazy.

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Interesting. Interesting. I noted it as interesting because you could have done Michael tires and he could have been like Michael Myers with some tires or something. And that's a first draft idea. But no, instead it's Donald Trump and Screech gets to, you know. Do a very I mean, it's a I think he has no lines, is his impression, he just throws money in the air. But yeah, certainly interesting.

And I love I love that you introduce her as desperate. Jesse, what a cutting combination of words to just no one likes to be called desperate like that is a that's that's a rough one at any age. I don't think anyone wants to be desperate. I don't want to be desperate, even though it's alliterate it. It sounds kind of cool. It's not it's not a good good thing I wouldn't throw that out there. By the way. I am desperate.

Deshotel That's OK. I mean, I'm out. My initials are already D d it's fun. I already have. You know, if I got monogrammed stuff for that, it'd be fine now. Yeah. We get an Adam West Batman style graphic, the smack, you know, just tracking all these fun little influences all over, say, by the bow. And then we come back to the locker room scene and Jessie's going, no, no.

I mean, what is wrong with these kids when they when they zone out like this? What is what is happening here? I thought about that. What are the other. Yeah, exactly. What are they doing?

What are the other people think when when they when they snap.

But like has this ever happen to you. I mean you're thirty three. You said now. Yes. I ever happened to you where you're standing in a room and somebody zones out because they're in a pink fuzzy fantasy. Yeah. And then they come back and they're like uh no no I meant well this happens every week, not every week.

I mean that's it happens every day around Bayside. I would definitely start checking, like, the CO2 levels in the air or something. But no, I like every now and then I'll like mumble something to myself every now and then I'll like I do that. Remember, I was like, remember an embarrassing thing or like something I should have done or didn't say. But should I be like, look, it'll just kind of like. Yeah, like a burp almost.

I do that but but yeah, it's part of the human condition. But I don't like I definitely don't just like sit up off the couch and going no like that would be crazy. I would go to a doctor, I would check, I would check if I had a head injury and I would I would be at a doctor's office. I mean, we're we're left to believe that she's zoned out for, what, thirty seconds. And Kelly and I mean, who knows?

It could be it could have been five minutes. Yeah, it could have been she could have been living in that thing for a good amount of time. And Kelly's like, are you OK? Fuck no she's not.

No she's not. Yeah. Kelly, clearly she's she's bleeding from her brain.

Most likely take her to Malibu General. And Jesse, we're in the max. Jesse wore her fringe jacket to to meet this young suitor named Brett. Brett is played by one Timothy Williams. I found it interesting. He wrote an episode of the nineties nineties Nickelodeon show Salute Your Shorts about a basketball tournament. If you're familiar with that series, I thought that was neat. Brett's an actor, but he also wrote an episode of TV I watched as a kid.

Yeah, I looked him up on IMDB and he's done a lot of television work. But when you when you input his name, it comes up as a writer, not as an actor. But he did he did do a lot of acting before and after this appearance on Saved by the Bell.

That's because a lot of people, Marmol, consider writing to be the more noble profession of the two. They want it listed first. But, you know, it's it's really a debate that's timeless and for the judges, which is, you know, harder, harder and whatever.

Hey, I just want to point out, just come on. They hand out the writing awards first thing at award shows. They save actor told you don't don't worry. I just want to. I know. I know. I want to point out here it is. Brett, what's wrong with his left arm during the scene? Oh, I don't know.

Why is he like, that's a choice. I mean, I don't know why it's down there. He talks that he's using his right hand to articulate quite a bit, but that left arm is dead. I like also that he's like from private school, but they quickly establish, OK, he's not rich. And if there going to be a problem where Jesse's like, oh, but Brett's rich, that's not the problem. Like, he's he's like he's like, oh, my parents are they're barely they're barely paying my way through and like, OK, cool with this because I thought almost the fact that Lisa introduces Brett to Jessie almost felt like this is some kind of like because they hype him up his private school.

Brett, it's like did they meet at their country club or like I was trying to figure out the the status of it all. But I know she says it's his neighbor. She says, oh, she says, my neighbor.

My neighbor from private school. There you go. That's right. Yeah. I just really pay attention.

How long does it take, Jesse, to fall in love with this guy or at least to be interested in this guy? Yeah, I'm glad you asked that, Mark. Paul, it takes thirty seven seconds. Thirty seven seconds for Jesse to hear that his he comes from a broken home and earns for his friends. He and his friend has a divorced family and he's very caring of them and also not rich and that's all she needs to hear to swoon.

So this is a good lesson out there. And for anyone, if you meet someone, honestly, I mean, I think. Excuse me. Or towards women, but probably men and women. They're going to make up their mind in the first thirty seven seconds, so if you think there's going to be any connection, it's going to take less than a minute for the person on the other end of the table to to process that that case. And she passes the he passes the Jesse test.

Yeah. And this made me very uncomfortable, by the way, this this slow mo push.

And I was like, I can do it. Yeah, it is odd. I mean, it is extreme close ups in Don. Don making some choices. Yeah. Elizabeth playing it. Well though, Elizabeth is like acting. I mean, she's like I believed her that she's like into this guy and then he stands up bump on bam man. They must have put I feel like they put her and lifts on top.

I think they like extra her to make that she was she's tall, I mean tall but he's not like five, 10.

Oh maybe that's right. Then he's like five, six and he could have been shorter at the time of filming.

So he's he's a good Breckin Meyer. Right. OK, good to know. Hello, Brechin.

Friend of the podcast. Friend of the podcast. When Brechin met my wife, my wife is six foot. I say it like that because I sometimes think she's six foot plus, but she likes to be called six foot.

When when Breckon met my wife, he said she came to the set and he says, Oh, look, you brought a yeti to the set. Oh, nice.

That's a good way to meet someone is to compare them to a fictional monster.

That's that's both men and women. Love that. Yeah. And then and then he got up on my he got up on my director's chair, which, you know, they're higher than the normal chairs. He got up on my director's chair on his knees and he he proceeded to talk to her on his knees on this director's chair so that he could be eye level with her. That's good. Yeah, good. That's good. That's my that's my good friend, Breckin Meyer.

We should have them back.

I see why your friends, he's he's a funny guy. I would.

I mean, that's just good comedy. Also, we should just point out here, like Jesse was concerned about her height twenty one episodes ago, not that even long ago in the scope of television and dancing to the max. It was a plot point in the very first episode, also in the max. She's it's just like, oh, but, you know, it is what it is. I guess maybe they just didn't think the kids were going to track that one.

I find it funny the the choice of words that Kelly uses to to describe Brett, she says, oh, he was adorable.

That's usually not a word you want to use to describe a man. Adorable. That's something, actually. And we have to have him back again.

Yeah, I say that all the time. You know, I say that when when people are you know, when we introduce each other. I want you to meet my adorable friend. This is Breckin Meyer. But adorable to me has always been. Yeah. A choice word for people like Bretz or or Brecken.

I just I it's a condescending word, people of code words, especially when you're like setting someone up on a date like, oh, he's adorable. It's like, oh, he's short. Or like if a guy is setting up like, oh, she has a great personality. It's like, well what about her? Looks like like people use words to to sort of like soften the blow of it's a really like dance.

What people do when you're when you're shopping and they go, oh, it's charming. It's a it's a fixer upper. Yeah. It's a piece of shit is what. It's a piece of shit.

Yeah. It's like, it's like it's, it's so funny. Like this is like no one can ever just say Oh yeah, he's actually kind of a jerk or like he's like he's very small but like he drives a nice car. I don't know, like no one can just say what's going on. And then Jesse uses a word that I hadn't used in so long. But I remember it being big in school was he's a shrimp.

Shrimp, right? Yeah, right. Fell out. It fell out of favor. It's no. Maybe kids are just getting nicer about the things they make fun of each other for. But yeah, shrimp fell out of favor. I don't know. You know, you don't hear the shrimp anymore. We should bring it back. Let's bring it back. Um, might as well. It's twenty twenty one whites. Twenty twenty one. Right. God that's I'm still, I'm still saying it's twenty twenty.

It's not. And yeah we're in the Baci bathroom and when you do you do notice that when Zach goes in he looks underneath the stall. Yeah. I'm so glad you pointed that out. Right. So I put that in. Whenever you're going to have a private conversation about it, first thing you do always look under the stalls. So now I'm going to fast forward to the end of the scene. Slaters has been in the bathroom overhearing our conversation.

So in case you hadn't done your homework, I now am employing screech. Ta ta ta ta ta.

Be me to show up at this at this movie theater with a rose for Penny so that I can get out of it, so I can go to to to Kelly's party. So Slater's standing on the toilet, hearing this crouching kind of because he's not even like to stand fully his head, right. So he's like in a in a semi crouch. Here's the thing.

I walk into the bathroom and you can't see his feet. What the fuck is he doing? Is he shooting with his feet up?

I think he's just he had a free period or something, and he's just like laying low to collect some intel. He he's still on this Kelly case. He doesn't know where it's going to come from. No, no, no. I don't buy that. I don't buy that. I mean, come on. You think he's OK? All right. I don't know what's going on. Like, he's standing on a toilet before anybody even enters the bathroom.

Who does this theorizing here? And this is a real stretch. Literally. He was he was in a normal seated position. He had his feet on the door of the stall to brace himself. He was such a serious job. He was working on.

And and then from there, he was able to kind of retract his feet. Listener, if you will, perch on the toilet, finish his business. He didn't wipe he had no time to wipe, but he did get the intel. That's what I'm theorizing, that he was walking around with the money.

But for the rest of the day and it's so funny that none of us ever questioned this on the day like this is something now that I do all the time. I mean, I will read something in a script and preferably I will talk to them days before we actually film it because we don't want to waste time on set. But something like this, like, you know, we rehearsed Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. We shoot this on Friday.

We had four days to prep. And at no point did we go somewhere. We a minute.

Yeah, well like but it's even it's made even weirder. Like they could have been fixed by feet on the floor. They walk in, feet go up. No, no, no, no, no. Because that would tip the hat that somebody is actually in the room. Right. Your toes. The thing you do with the camera, you never show the stalls. So when I come in, just tighten the shot up. Just show Zach walking.

And why did he, like, never look. You never look exactly. It's my fault for not looking correct.

And so then and then you reveal the doors later on and then you reveal later you why didn't you hear that you were going to go back to film school.

Don just loved on Barnhart around here.

He's a legend. But yeah, it's incredible. You can hear standing on a toilet is slaters line. I'm going to theorize. No, it's not it's not incredible what you can hear standing on a toilet. You'll probably hear someone say, get the hell down from there or you'll hear someone going to the bathroom.

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Why do you say that break down like some of the more like to model someone in your image like this, especially not just like the mannerisms would to be like, well, you need to dress in these khakis with this blazer. I get it. It's just for fun. It's it's the movie Twins, which I love. But this is like mentally unhinged behavior to the extreme of being like, I will make you in my image. That's what God apparently did.

So to do that to another human is playing God. It's really fucking weird. Well, I disagree with you and so did the audience. OK, all right. Yes, the audience. The crowd goes, the crowd goes, have it in my notes. The crowd goes wild. Do you know how long we hold for the audience? I had to. I took my stopwatch out. Twelve seconds. That's that's a long hold for that is a very.

That is long. Hold it. Well, first of all, it's a long hold for something that isn't written right. So as you would know this because you're a writer, but you never write for like a large audience, you never write for an audience hold. You don't you don't write hold for applause. Yeah. You just get the applause. So you hold.

You may be the joke that we had to cut out of the Mr. Hudson scene was because of this, because of the the long audience reactions that we would have.

Well, you had to cut a minute thirty out any regardless. But this certainly may have taken up more of that time. And you're going to want to hold it is it is fun. It's also fun. Like I you know, I have it in my notes here for later, but like, it's fun to see screeds kind of up. He never gets to, like, win. So he does win this episode. That's a little spoiler. But, you know, you got to be Zach and Zach always wins.

So it's like fun to see him. Zach, it's fun to see you, dude. It's like it's the movie Twins, which is a very fun movie.

Also wanted to point out, I'm not sure if you saw this, but as you know, we do this gag with screech gag. Great gag, Milawa. You can see this one gun. You can see this from a mile away.

But the set DEC set decoration, this stair banister and this gag makes no sense. Like, again, how how so am I missing something?

Is this like a like an Macassar painting or. I don't know. Look at the screen. Do you see the stair banister. I dare you. OK, so he falls.

So why is the banister on that. Like why is it on the wall side.

Yes that's a good point. I mean it's out of frame so the stairs are right there, like the stairs lead up to Zach's room, like where's the hallway. Where's where's it could it could it could.

I mean, I could I mean, I'm not trying to like go full blown house truth are on you, but like there could be a version where the stairs and the first bedroom of the hall and that's Zach's room. I could I could see that the more confusing thing is the banister placement because like but again, that I guess that wall could also end. And the I mean, I don't know.

I'm not trying to we could be here all day, folks. I agree.

It's a little it's a little teeny bit confusing, but not a ton to me. I actually like that Zach has a sign on his room that says it's a street sign, but it says computer drive because his dad's a computer salesman and computers have drives. I thought that was a fun a fun, tiny little joke. I liked it. Anything to please I it doesn't take much these days, I'm telling you. And we're in the halls of Bayside for Slater to enact his plan to theorize here that or I guess we're not sorry, we're not Slater's plan yet.

First, first, first. Kelly and Lisa have to put on the world's laziest theater production for Jasiek, like teaching her a lesson about discrimination. Martha, I would imagine you never encountered this or maybe you did in your dating life are aware of this like height based discrimination and dating is it is a totally real thing. Yeah.

And especially in the age of Internet apps like to to list your height is a very common practice, especially with the guys on dating apps, because like girls will just be like, I'm not like six feet and under not having it like not interested, it's a thing. So I don't know, say by the bell kind of ahead of the time here on this lesson. No, I, I've definitely experienced that in my in my life. I haven't dated a whole heck of a lot.

But when I met my my wife, I've already expressed she's taller than me, she's a good inch taller than me problem. And so in heels and heels, it's probably like several right now.

But they're already taller than you. Yeah. And heels she's about six three, possibly six four, which I recommend. I have to get a whole ladder. Yeah, I reckon we miss you. That is actually if I remember correctly, he he did say that at one point. If she wore heels, he'd have to get his ice picks out and like try to climb back up or he already made the joke he did.

Yeah, and I I think the reason why he says that also because my wife is blonde, she looks Nordic. She's actually Scottish. Born in England, though it's a weird story.

But anyway, you guys look like you guys like the United Nations under your roof. Yeah, no, we really are. But no, I felt that when I when I first met my wife, I thought, hmm, I wonder if she has a problem just being slightly taller than me.

You know, like the the the reigning champion of this of this thing, David Spade, go back through the go back to the halls of history and see who David Spade would show up places with every single one of his dates taller him. You never blink tonight. It never bothered him once. So there you go from from one. I'm a short Rod Stewart. Rod said, Oh, my God. Yeah. Rod Stewart's another prime example of a we mentioned the terminology last week, a short king, Rod Stewart.

Absolutely. A short cake for sure. Tom Cruise. Sure. I suppose so. Well, doesn't Tom Cruise, though, he does the thing in action movies were like it always takes me out of it when he's the same height as his wife or like the villain, I'm like, no, you're not like Tom Cruise is not that tall mission impossible.

But, you know. Well, yeah, I've I've worn shoes on on my show, mixed ish. We have to wear vintage clothing and sometimes they give me boots or something like that and they come from other productions. And it's funny, the boots that I wear, I won't wear them because they're uncomfortable. But a lot of them have lifts. Right. And a lot of the heels are a lot taller.

And there's a there's a lot of actors that actually do that. No, I mean, hey, you guys are trying to you're trying to become roles. You know, not everyone can, like, gain and lose two hundred pounds like Christian Bale every day. So, you know, you need to throw a couple lives in the shoe. Let's keep the show moving. Now, fortunately, my height is sort of right in the middle, so I haven't had to do that.

I'm five eleven now.

I think I was six foot at one point. You know, I had a lot of accidents and surgeries in my life. I think everything's compacting on my on my body is oneword well, like a Big Gulp cup. The bottom just gets smaller sometimes. And Slater here is a master manipulator. He gets right under screeches skin that like screeches absence will will really upset Kelly. And Screech is excited about his date, like rightfully so, even though he has to be Zack, he's excited.

He has a date. I just thought slaters like proclivity here towards manipulation is. Is indicative of like spending all this time at Bayside, like I do think the Bayside bubble has, like, rubbed off on him and now he's he knows how to pit his friends against each other for his own, like, basic needs, which seems to be like a real thing that was happening a lot at the school.

Yeah. And you fold that folder, Slater, you go, OK, but it's not a 90 degree, but he is years clenching it.

Maybe. And maybe that's another trick. If you if you can't get an angle going, just squeeze the hell out of that thing.

Well, I think that's what Hugh Jackman used to do. Like Wolverine, he would hold dumbbells at his side. Oh, you would?

I was going to say I was just holding graps or just holding dumbbells out of frame. You you hold like dumbbells and it kind of gives you a pump and. Yeah.

What is going on in this world. Hey, listen, we're actors. Yeah. I mean, whatever. Yeah. We're not everyone can be Christian Bale. I get it so. Right. And we're at the park. Yeah. We're at this party. And right away when I watch that opening scene, I was like, what the fuck are we doing dancing. That is the worst dancing ever.

Yeah. Like little like it is. I just stepped away from the mic to really get it. To feel it.

It's bad again. Kelly Kelly, having all the best outfits in the show looks great and everyone else feels like they're very out of place at this party. And I just want to again tell the audience that we may have started this scene with a bump of music just to kind of get the beat going or not. And then throughout this entire scene, there's no music. So every background artist, everyone is on their own beat at that point. What's the thing?

It's CPR, but you're supposed to be stayin alive, right? That's like the thing is, you're supposed to if you're doing CPR, you're supposed to go to the beat of Stayin Alive is what I've heard. Right. I wonder if. Yeah, that is by the way. But are you gonna use that song? Have you seen that documentary, the gees documentary. No, I haven't. Is it good. Unreal. So definitely you got to watch.

My wife and I just finished that and I can't I'm going to leave how many hits these guys have produced.

The whole I had a lot of respect for them before and even more so now. Yeah. No thank you. I will gladly check that out. I was gonna say, like I would imagine if you're coaching or directing, you give the audience a rough sense of the beat or like even if someone off screen kind of nodding their heads so the actors could like, look over and like. But I guess that was more work than anyone was willing to to do at the time, which is fine.

Who cares? We had a reference to Arsenio Hall here at the party, his show premiered in 1989, big deal at the time, helped elect Bill Clinton, depending on who you ask. So, yeah, there got a little history. And Dustin walking in with Penny, she's holding the red rose. I love it. I love that she's holding the red rose.

This silent scream, this reaction comes back. This is this is familiar to you in any way.

What do you mean? Why why would it be familiar? Well, it's one of my favorite memes. I usually send it to people. Oh, does it. Yeah, got it.

Yeah. Yeah, it's one of the it's one of the gift moments of correct. OK, yes. Yeah, yeah.

I don't see I think you're I've never seen this. You by the way blindspots. No I don't think you did. I shame I, I don't think you did. No I you I guarantee you have seen more Zack Morris gifts than probably anyone else on the planet. So yeah, it didn't stand out to me. Penny Belding, by the way, played by Jodi Peterson, six episodes of Growing Pains under Jodi's belt. She also played three different roles on Blossom.

I don't know how you do that, but she was on Blossom three times with three different people. I was on Blossom. But were you on Blossom three times as three different people? No. There you go. And she did a TV ad for bubble gum. Gum. It's funny you on Blossom. I was going to ask you about bubble gum because there are so many commercial overlaps here. You seem to be like a tight pool of, you know, kids doing these ads.

But you're on blossom. OK, data. How much we talked about it earlier. What do you think? What are the financials to rent out the max? Because like my pal, in a world where, you know, let's call it twenty nineteen, you want to rent out a restaurant for like a birthday party for kids. You got to put some money on the table. So like say, hey, I'm renting this or there's going to be a minimum of food we buy or something.

It seems like Max just opens his door to kids to to dance and use the payphone. That's the only thing that's making any money in this place. It's making it's making twenty five cents a minute.

Yeah. That guy's pager went off. And so he needs to to I don't know, I don't know if our audience sells them drugs, remembers how pagers work, but it was a one way system. I mean, later on they had a two way pager where you could actually input the beginning of text messaging basically.

Yeah, yeah. But for the most part, it was a one way system, like somebody would call you input their number and then you would call that number back. So, you know, the guy's using the payphone to to to answer his pager, return a page, I guess. Yeah, there's all kinds of like 80s, 90s movies where there's like tech now that would make the plot never happen. But I feel like you would regularly see a character in the 80s or 90s be like, I got to get to a phone to answer my page in Clueless.

They were using both pagers and cell phones as kind of a joke. Also, like I know I've made a, you know, somewhat of a career here. I've thrown Zack Wright under the bus. But I will say that Slater is willing to completely ruin Kelly's party by, like, throwing screech into the mix. It's like really kind of messed up.

Anything for love, I guess. Is it love, though? It's like it's more like vengeance or like it's like, I don't know. It's it's not it's not good. And all this guy wants to do, all Brett wants to do, it just is just dance with her. Like what guy wants to dance. Dude, are you a dancer. I like dancing. Yeah. Oh my god. I love dancing. Oh my God.

When this whole thing's over my power, we're hitting the clubs, you and me, not the clubs. But no, I love dancing. Dancing's fun is what we're you're here on earth to laugh and dance. Right, among other things, I guess. Play video games, watch movies. But yeah. You know, Jesse figures it out with Brad. They danced and it's like, come on, Jesse, you just you just had this story last season, Jesse.

It just opened up last season. But she figures it out. It's fine. Also, what the hell is she wearing like that long skirt to the floor? It's. Kelly really did get the Kelly, Kelly got the best outfits and they they did not always do right by a buy one, Elizabeth, her color, I don't know what the what what were that for the green or what it was gray.

Greenish gray. But it's exactly the same as what slaters wearing. He is oh, yeah, like his shirt is green and it's going to take just just like this outfit, like he could put that on top and it would look great on on Slater's outfit, it was foreshadowing more, Paul, because they're going to wind up together at the prom next episode, which already aired. Yeah, you're right. They are wearing the same color palette. They should be together.

Everyone at this dance is dressed like they have a different idea of what the dance was supposed to be like. There are some people in like formal formal dresses and other people like jeans and t shirts. It's a confusing landscape of fabric. And all the balloons and decorations like is Kelly paying for those balloons? Did the capacity family have to skip lunch last week? Like what? What's going on? Where is the family? Where are their brothers and sisters?

Where they were parents? They're working part time jobs to pay for the punch bowl. Like what? What is the actual financial logistics of renting out the max for this party? Who sets out all that crap up? That's where Max was, he's taken a rest, he's exhausted and, you know, this this conversation mix up here, which a slaters watching in the background like I planned, coming to sweet fruition. Uh, I love it. I love it the way Penny plays it and screeches so happy being Zach for a day.

You know, he gets the girl. What do you think about this line, Karpal, that they're going to Penneys Unkles, which is, by the way, Belding's house, and they're going to like do he won't be home for a while, like his screech about to have sex. What's happening here? God, I hope so. Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't that be great? Screeches The first one in the group to lose his virginity and to to Penny Belding, to Penny building Ahepe for any time building.

Ever says anything. I mean, in some ways you would imagine I would have been Zachs like goal to be like, well, I have a get out of building free card for the rest of my life. He never raised his voice at me. Hey, buddy, let me describe to you in graphic detail what your niece looks like naked.

So slaters happy because his plan is working. Yeah, Kelly seems to be very distraught over this whole you thing.

Yeah. Like you would be to me, like it's like like Slater dropped a bomb in this. I know. But here's the thing. Why didn't I just tell her the truth?

Like, tell Kelly. Hey, Kelly, here's what's going on. Here's the thing. She thinks she's on it. Yeah, it's I mean, why when I say this, like Kelly, I was going to get detention.

You got Mr. Belding being the pimp that is solicited his niece, Penny. I have now employed Screech to to be me. Yeah. So that I could be here at this party. Oh, my God. Of don't you understand. Yeah. What part of this is confusing to you, Kelly, by the way, I made twenty bucks on the deal. Here's here's a five. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Of course you do. Yeah I try to like that.

Is the king of doubling down. He Zack Morris will never when confronted with the lie ever like. No, it's always double down. That's like the whole always the whole thing.

And then and then she said then there's a switch like Zack I will never this is the red herring, right. I will never forget this birthday. I will never for the rest of my life. And then she says I should be so mean. So like I make her happy because of the trouble I went through to make her feel happy.

What it's so toxic. It is like people overuse the term like oh like this is a toxic person are like that's like toxicity is like definitely a term that gets thrown around a lot. This shit is is toxic to be like Zack. I will never forget the time you lied to me on my birthday.

And like also also he booked he did book a date with another girl like he he was ready to date Penny and never tell Kelly. And like that would just be that. And like maybe he he catches a weird handjob in building's backyard or something like he's not he's not all the way like what's full of honesty here and nothing's wrong with it. I'm just saying he was ready to do that. Nothing's wrong. It's high school. That's exactly what's going to happen.

But in your principals backyard.

But no, like instead he only didn't go on to date with Penny because he was double booked. Like, it's it's like extra bad. It's all bad, but all.

But hold on. I got a I got a I got a stick up for my boy and your man. Zach. Yeah. He didn't want to go on this date. He was pressured into going on this date. He had no idea what whoo hoo Penny is what she look like. He was just pressured into doing this because he didn't want to go to detention. But the fact that Kelly says that at the end where she says you went through all this trouble, I don't want to make light of this because this is a serious thing.

But she really is a victim in this relationship.

Yeah. Now, you're not making light of it. She, Kelly, is like the ultimate I mean, it's the thing where you stay.

It's I don't want I want a name check any, like, famous abusive relationships here. But it's like these people stay in abusive relationships because it's like, you know, I mean, it works out for Zach and Kelly. And I'm not going to I would never disparage the legacy of Zach and Kelly here, especially on this podcast.

But it is like, holy shit, this I have it in my notes. This should have been the final straw.

It should've been like, wait a minute, Zach, you're already my date to my birthday and you OK, you're to detention. But it should not have been the last straw because he could have easily diffused it by just telling the guy.

Just telling it. You're right. You're totally right. Yeah, right. OK, that's so she could have been like, you know, this is the last straw. Zach and Zach said would be if you. Kelly, I, I, I only did this because I was trying to get out of the detention.

Love you so much. Yeah. And I want to be here for you. And also, like, this is going to be our whole lives forever.

So buckle up and then yeah. We have to trust you then to make myself Zach look better. I would have pointed how Slater set this whole thing up and how. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah.

Yes, of course I do nothing of the sort. I just she gives me a kiss on the cheek by the way. Kiss on the cheek. Come on. But the crowd still goes wild.

I have it in my notes but it was just the normal kiss. I mean and then. And then I'm like I show it off to Slater like look at this. You guys are you guys are children. I mean. It is funny, I mean, you know, Screech is going to have to peg Penny and Belding's how someone does something has happened in there. Yeah, Penny Zagros that gets a kiss on the cheek. And it's, you know, it's it's gold.

So I did I mentioned it.

But I will say it again. Love to see Screech win for once and get the girl and I'd like it's fun. Good for screech. Happy for him. Yeah. And that's the episode. I mean the crab as well. That's the episode. It's fun.

I want to you know it's, it's really nutty but like it is I coming off of a house party episode where I feel like so much happens and there's so much iconic imagery here or in the last week till I come to this or it's like a more traditional say by the bell plot. But it's fun. I had fun. Yeah, I help you to do it was a no, I did too. It was a good episode. I really enjoyed this episode.

Thank God. Well, it's not the last one of all time. We have one next week. It is called Rent a Pop, which is a play of course, on the term rent a cop. You know, the guys who guard the mall or parking lots or whatever, uh, shot in the dark. Mark Paul, what do you think rent a pop might be about? Is it about soda? We did a lot of soda talk this week.

Yeah, no, I. I know this because I did a little I was I was looking ahead to see how many more episodes we had for the rest of the season. And just counting gas.

No, I just I just wanted to know because I mean to let our audience in, we we tend to pick our guests, you know, specifically for certain episodes. Right. And so I was I was just looking ahead to see because I know we end on the Jessie Jesse song, the caffeine pills. Yeah. Yeah, the caffeine pills.

And I was just looking for, like, you know, trying to get a sense of when I have to reach out to Elizabeth to see if she would be a part of our podcast. And I did see Rent a Pop on on the on the list. And I saw that Zach something about his dad. That's all I know. Yeah. There you go. So not Zach's dad. Pop is right in there. You get the idea.

We will see you next week. Thank you, Mark. Paul, thank you. The listeners. And yeah, what I just said. We'll see you next week. Zach to the Future is a production of Cames Thirteen. It's executive produced by Michael Goslar, myself and Chris Walker, Production and direction led by Terrence Mangan, editing and mastering by Andy Jesuit's. Engineering and Production Coordination by Sean Cherry. Artwork by Kurt Courtney with illustrations by Jeff MacCarthy. Marketing is led by Josephine Francis with PR by Hillary Shoop.

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