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Nice shirt, Zane. Zane, what is that shirt from?

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I have no idea. It's correct. Right now, my friend is helping me replace my closet because nothing fits in my closet. Style by Garret. Thanks, Garret. I don't care what's on the shirt. I told him, I don't give a shit what's on the shirt. If it fits on me well, I want it.

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Matt, you're one of those guys that sees somebody in a band shirt and you're like, Name three songs.

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Yeah, I will.

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Most Banties I had didn't know the artist. Really? Yeah, it just looked I like the design. I was like, I'll take it.

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If you're wearing a Metallica shirt or an ACDC shirt or even a Beatles shirt, that's the most staple basic thing.

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I'll say this. Yes. If it is now available in Target to the masses, the Beatles, ACDC, Metallica, like you said. Kiss.

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Don't even ask. Hey, can I say something embarrassing? I can't name one Beatle song. Really? I can't think of one Beatles song. Oh, come on. Once you say it, I will know, but I can't- You think of Across the Universe, the movie Across the Universe.

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Does that help anything? Any scenes in that movie?

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I've never seen Across the Universe.

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Hey, dude.

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That's the Beatles. Yeah.

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Yellow Submarine.

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Okay, I've heard the song. I've obviously heard the song. It's just if someone was like, Name one song for the Beatles. I couldn't not Not right now. Well, now I know Yellow Submarine. I'll never forget that. There you go. Never forget that. I can name every song in the 1975 album.

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There you go. Well, that's the Beatles of your time.

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Let's get you a 1975 T-shirt then. I have no 1975 merch. That way, if somebody ever comes up and asks you, you can be prepared. Exactly. You'll feel really good.

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You have tons of Lord shirts. One time I had Lord merch, not good. It reminded me of my old merch. It was just not good.

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I used to have this.

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The thing is that artist merch is never good. They just do it just to push it, and I get it.

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Taylor Swift's merch is not good. Hopefully it's gotten better, but I look for that.

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It's purposely supposed to be really cheap. I feel like Taylor Swift would want really good quality merch out there. Yeah. Quality as in the material.

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She should own the merch company.

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Yeah, she could own everything that is pushing our stuff, if you think about it. So just have the best stuff because why? You don't need the extra income.

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It's a representation of who you are.

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Yeah, high quality, especially Taylor Swift.

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I used to have this really weird, I'll call it a dream fantasy scenario situation. When I was in middle school, I used to wear a Disturbed shirt. I used to daydream and envision somebody coming up to me and asking me to sing a song or whatever. I would get into a sing-off battle with another punk rock kid in school where we would be going back and forth and I would know more words than him. I would constantly wear it almost trying to encourage that moment.

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Waiting for someone to come up to you and start that.

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Yes, and it never happened. But I remember it was always on my mind. I was like, somebody's going to ask me to sing battle them right now.

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Would you say you still I sing pretty good? Could you belt it? Kind of like me and Mariah.

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Are you as good as me and Zane?

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Because me and Mariah are really good.

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Not, no.

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I would say me and Mariah are better than most people out there. Most artists.

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Zane and I can sing. I'll tell you one thing. I have fun when I'm singing, though. And I got heart, okay? I have a lot of heart.

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I have no heart. But I've seen some of your TikToks. I've seen some of your TikToks. You posted a singing TikTok. It was moody.

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She She's deleting it right now.

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She's really eilish that shit.

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Once this episode goes up, then no one's going to be able to find shit.

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Because you're private right now. Sorry, guys. It's private by the time you're hearing it.

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I was under a lot of pressure. We had one Christmas song, and I was like, Now I got to release something else.

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Christmas song.

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Got to give the people what they want. They are asking for more.

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What was happening in that time, in that time of our lives? Just song after song. Even mine, I was just like, What was he thinking?

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We were just trying to do something. We were just staying busy.

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I think we were trying to set up projects for ourselves. We're like, Oh, we're working on a project.

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Something for people to see, to be like, Okay, multi-trauma.

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Your song is still on Spotify, right? I hope not. But it's the best that you can sit there and you can tell, Alexa, or you can tell a little voice box and be like, play this on Spotify. That's true. And boom, you're right there. You are registered. You got a hit.

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And you know what? It was a good three years where people, whenever there was a party going on, somebody would always play as a joke, and it would make me melt. I would start screaming. I would be calling that Uber when I heard my song starting to play. I was like, Please shut it off. Please, please, please. Because I have to always remind people that I just did it as a It's not like I wasn't in the studio just, I want this out. Finally. It's a funny song. I just got to remember that people don't care. People don't really care. They're playing it just because you're here, and it's just a fun joke.

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The fact that there's 3,000 monthly listeners on my Spotify.

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Wait, does that mean that 3,000 people this month went to his page and clicked the song to listen to it? That's insane to me that 3,000 people this month clicked one of your songs. The pull. All right, can I check Boom? Boom is a bot. I definitely have. I had a good amount when I posted, but let me check it.

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Zane, 8,000 monthly listeners. Oh my gosh, Zane. Wow, let me see. Give me that.

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Zane, I could I literally see Boom being huge in the UK.

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5.2 million listens on Boom.

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Oh, my God. I did not know it had 5.2 million listens? Zane, you are an artist.

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It probably got picked up on a playlist in another country.

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Influencer playlist.

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If I type in your name, we'll pop up Loanaker.

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No, I'm not even on the title. It's Ethan Scott.

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And my WAP cover got 1.2 million. That should be in a museum. You know what's crazy to think about? There's a 90% chance that car to 100% clicked that because when you-There's a 90% chance that she 100% clicked it. Because when you type in WAP, W-A-H-P WAP on the search bar, my video comes up third or fourth. That's on YouTube. That's sick. Which is pretty crazy. So she had She had to have clicked that and been like, What is this? She clicks it and she immediately shut it off. She immediately shut it off. She was like, I'm not watching anything more of this.

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I think she liked it.

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In my head, when it was doing really well, I was just so big head. I was just like, She's definitely going to comment. She's definitely going to tweet it out or something.

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Nothing.

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It's all right. Nothing.

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Should we run that intro?

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Let's run that intro. Hit it.

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It's coffee time, baby.

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Oh, no, there's no music playing.

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Oh, can't you add it? Jordan's gone. But we don't have... We have to press the button. Usually, Jordan's there.

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No, no, no.

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That's stars.

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That's Jeopardy.

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No, no. The corner one. The corner one. He.

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Oh, there we go. There we go.

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Why is Jeopardy on the sound pad?

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I have no idea.

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Is it still on the sound pad right now?

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In case of emergencies.

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Welcome back to Zane & Heath unfiltered. I'm Zane. I'm Heath.

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I'm Matt. I'm Mariah.

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And we are unfiltered. Thank you again for stopping by.Thanks.

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For passing by.Thank.

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You so much. I hope you're having a lovely Monday, Tuesday morning, whatever time it is, just on your way to work. Remember when we used to do that?

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Yeah, we really are. Well, we're here now. How's everybody doing? What's our feelings right now?

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I'm feeling good. I feel good. I feel like I've been waking up really early, so I feel like I'm getting double days. Yes. It's insane.

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It's the best when you are finally on a good sleep cycle.

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The days just feel so long.

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Yeah, they do. But no naps, though, right?

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No, no naps. But I crash hard at night.

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My stretch artist, she told me...

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You're what? That's the most LA shit. I think your stretch artist.

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She stretches me. For her, it's art. So it's like my stretch artist. She told me how to call her though.

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When it costs more than $100 a session, stretch artist.

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Does she have a flexible schedule?

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She's back, baby. She's back and she's coming in strong. That's good. No, no. I don't even know what... In the past, I've called her, Oh, I'm seeing my stretcher, and that doesn't sound Not right either. She just stretches me out. I would say she's... What do you call her?

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Muscular therapist?

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A trainer? I feel like it's like she just- Some type of physical therapist.

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Yeah, physical therapist.

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Mobility trainer.

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She pretty much just stretches all my joints. It's like a 45 minutes session. It's so good. I've been doing a lot lately because I just been working out. I still work out a lot. It's heavy lifting, so I get very, very sore everywhere. She just stretches me out and it's been Amazing. But where was I going to get to? And she told me that this past half month and April, Mercury's in retrograde. And I don't usually believe in that shit. But when she said that, it ran down through my body. I was like, wow, I think you're right for me for the first time.

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So weird things are just going to happen. Shit hits the fan.

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She said, Don't sign anything. Don't sign any documents or don't lock in anything in the next month. I was like, That's so interesting. How often does it retrograde?

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I think it happens once a year, and it's usually this time of year. I don't... I wait for the internet and people to tell me that Mercury is in retrograde, I guess.

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Why do I feel like people always say it?

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Three to four times a year, the planet Mercury appears to travel backward across the sky. We refer to these periods as Mercury in retrograde, of apparent retrograde emotion.

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It's a weird thing that this is still not a myth. It's just something that It's something you can't see. It hasn't been proven. It cannot be proven. It cannot be proven. It's just a lot of people believe it, and a lot of people don't. It's just we have to just... But it's just astrology. To me, it's like it should be proven. You should be able to prove that because it's something in space. I don't know.

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Well, I mean, what's proven is that it looks like Mercury does go back. I guess they think that that has an effect on the stars and our zodiacs and our alignment with ourselves. Yeah.

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I mean, you got to be able to feel something. Yeah. I was going to say to add on to the whole solar system stuff, the eclipse is coming up, and it is going to be wild.

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I was going to go see it. Well, because it's passing through Austin and Dallas, and so my parents get to see it. I was going to go to Dallas, and I was going to go see Bampire Weekend's first show in Austin at noon. But I was going to come down from Dallas. Dude, the flights. So I have a buddy, Jacob, he does Megayot, the clothing brand. He hit me up and goes, Are you going to go to Dallas for the eclipse? And I'm like, Yeah, for sure. I He's planning on it. Dallas like a-He goes, You look, Dallas is in the line of where the Eclipse- That's the line that it's going to be.

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So it goes-We're not going to see it?

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No, we're not going to see it.

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Wait. Is it because it's exactly the way it's... Okay, sorry.

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It's the alignment of the sun and the moon.

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I was so excited to go outside the house and see that.

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No. My buddy who told me that he was going, he has his parents who they were already planning on flying in. He goes, But have you looked at the flights? And I'm like, No, I haven't. He goes, Dude, they're insane because all these people are flying into Dallas and Austin to view the Eclipse because it's a once in a lifetime chance that this will happen if you are in the right location. Flights were insane. It was like going abroad.

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No way.

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For Dallas from LA to Dallas. And then I started being on Eclipse TikTok, and people are saying how crazy of a day it's going to be because we need to get the word out that the Eclipse is happening because there's going to be traffic, all this It's like three minutes of darkness. Yeah, three minutes of darkness, and then the 20 minutes before and the 20 minutes after. It's like that scene in apocalyptic. Yeah.

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Just traffic and all that in general, just because people are going to be getting out of their cars and be filming, that type of just chaos.

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It's all this mayhem where everyone wants to be in the right place, and then I was running through my mind. It's pretty crazy. I'm like, Oh, my gosh, are we even going to be able to get from Dallas to Austin? I just had so much anxiety about it, all the money that I was going to spend on it, and I said, I'm not going.

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It's crazy. It's going to look like the world is ending.

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I was I was thinking, imagine you were alive thousands of years ago and you didn't know what it was, and you saw it for the first time.

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You thought it was God. Yeah.

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I mean, that's almost like-I would think I was about to die.

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That line, it's not the way it looks. That line that you just showed on the map, that's where it's going to get dark only?

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Yes. That's the orbital path of where the illusion of the Eclipse. Got it. Okay. People are going to be able to see it.

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Do you remember the time I told you guys I was in Lebanon sun when the Eclipse happened? It was still bright outside, though, but when you looked at the sun, it just felt like a dark, glowing, black ball with a ring around it. We weren't allowed to look at the sun. We had to wear glasses. I remember being kids and they were just like, Get away from the sun. We were being attacked. It was really scary for a little bit. But that's why I asked if that's the dark path because apparently we were not in the line of the darkness. That's pretty crazy. It is. I did not know that, by the way. This is my first time learning that there's a certain path or there's a certain area where it gets dark and everywhere else is still more.

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I've been having some anxiety about it where I'm like, Was it a stupid decision for me not to go? But I just trust that the universe will bring me an eclipse at some point in my life before I die. It's one of those things I got.

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I still think we're going to see it here. I think it's just you might get a longer time of darkness along that line.

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Okay, sorry. What is that?

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Because think about it. It doesn't make sense if we're that These things are supposed to be millions of miles away, right? Not millions, but hundreds of thousands of miles away.

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Yeah, but the sun looks different depending on where you're at. And the moon looks different depending on where you're at because it's where you're at. I guess it shouldn't, but that's the way the planetary alignment is.

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It shouldn't, though. What? Because they're thousands and thousands and thousands of miles away.

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I don't know. I think there's a lot of science. Let's bring in Neil deGrasse Tyson in here to explain this.

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You see where it crosses right there?

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That's when it happened in 2017.

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Oh, okay.

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That's when Trump looked up at the... You looked up and he was like... Can you imagine, though, the people who do not know about the Eclipse is going to happen? They're going to be like, What the hell is going on?

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Because you know there's thousands of people that just are going to see it for the first time. They didn't know it was going to happen. It's going to be sick. Sorry for sounding like an idiot about all this. This is my first time learning that there was areas that it It was dark. Did not know that. I thought it was so bright everywhere. You just couldn't look at the sun. Maybe. Now I know. Cool. Damn, I wish you went so you could send us a quick video instead of seeing on TikTok for the first time.

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Well, the upside of it, though, is that I'm going to Korea.

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Are you actually doing it?

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We're doing it. For the solar eclipse.

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I think who knows? Maybe... Actually, it'll be the weekend before. But no, we're going to Korea. We're skipping Coachella and doing South Korea.

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Wow.

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Going to Seoul, baby.

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Honestly, I think you're going to have more fun than Coachella.

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Okay, this picture helps a lot, guys. Look, look, look.

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So we'll see 30% of it?

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You're going to get a total eclipse of the heart along that line. And then going outward, your percentage is dropping.

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But is that color, though, what it's going to look like? It gets orangey for the people in the orange, and then it's just-I think just how much sun you see or how bright it's going to be.

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I think that's just the-Yeah.

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Wow.

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It's a magical thing. Hey, Florida is going to get 50%, so that could be cool. When you think about it again, it's not that big of a deal. It's just going to get dark. All the lights are going to turn on because that's how it is. Those buildings all just light up when it gets dark automatically.

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I just think it's the beauty of the alignment of it all. It's all happening right there before your eyes.

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But you're right. It's just going to cause chaos.

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It'd be cool, though. Imagine if Eclipse happened once a week.

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Just, oh, it's happening. Imagine the amount of protocols that goes out when it gets dark every week. They just have something that That happens?

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I forget what town it was, but they're sending the National Guard there to basically make sure everybody's okay because they're getting such an influx of people coming to be outside seeing this happen.

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I would love to see the dots.

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What do you think the worst position is to be in during an eclipse?

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It just turns night, right?

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I guess it's-I guess you'd have to be doing something-I'm trying to think of something funny.

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I don't know. Defusing a bomb? If you're getting your blood drawn outside, and they're about to put the needle in.

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We got them. Dude, imagine giving birth in the middle of the eclipse. Oh, my gosh. That is like a special baby. They're like, he's coming. I can see the head.

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He's crowning.

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An eclipse baby. We're born in the eclipse. That's a demonic baby. Demonic. Or just... Any theories? Do we got any theories of what people say is going to happen when the Eclipse happens? Is there going to be some... I don't know.

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I just always remember that scene in Apocalypse where they're just about to sacrifice They're about to chop off his head at the top of that temple. Then it goes off and then they stop and then...

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He was the chosen one.

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They stop sacrificing all the other people, but then they make him go run down that field and shoot arrows at them.

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Great movie. Dude, great movie.

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I got a strange feeling about it.

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What do you think is going to happen when the eclipse happens? I don't know.

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I think we're going to forget about it, and then it's going to be on TikTok, and we're going to be like, Oh, shit, that was today.

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That was today. Then that's it. It's going to be really big for two days and then something...

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We haven't had an Eclipse TikTok yet, I know. I'm really excited.

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Oh, and then the memes. When the eclipse, I just can't wait to see it. Can't wait to see it. Come on.

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That's a solar eclipse. Or do you say lunar? Is it a lunar?

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Polar. Polar.

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What's a polar eclipse?

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I don't know.

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Oh, there is no Polar Eclipse. But you know what?

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I should do that as a...

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Just repost it.

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I had something pretty freaky happen to Patricia and I. This is a bit of a story.

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Okay, let's hear it.

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This happened, I think last week Maybe week before. I can't remember. It was a really busy day. We had to do this podcast. We had to do the other one. Where were you guys at? I was exhausted. I was at home. Okay. I took a 07:00 PM nap, which I hate doing. I hate napping when it's so late in the evening. This is going to screw up my sleep cycle. I'm taking a nap, and Patricia wakes me up. She's like, Matt, there's somebody in front of our house. I'm like, What? She's like, he's holding this sign, and he's staring right at me. I'm like, Huh? What's going on? She's like, Please, please. I'm just jostled awake walking toward the front of our house. We live in a pretty busy area, West Hollywood, with a lot of foot traffic. I'm like, Oh, I don't know. Was this? She was, No, this man is staring right at me.

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How far away? How far from the door?

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She said he's standing right in front of our tree facing our window. We have a front lawn. He's not on the sidewalk.

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That's like Michael Myers' vibes. It's not too close to the door, but far enough and close enough where it's just like...

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Patricia, the way Patricia and how intense she was about it. It was like, no, it's scaring me. I'm calming myself. I'm trying to calm myself down.

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Is it getting dark at this point?

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It's already dark outside.

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Oh, it is.

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Already dark. I thought you said it was 3:00 PM. No, it was 7:00 PM, and now it's 8:00 PM. It was right in dark. I'm walking up to the window, and it's pretty front facing. The thing is, though, it's pitch black, but the lights are on inside. You know when it's dark outside, you're like, I have to turn off the light.

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They can see you more than you can see at At this point, did you turn off all your lights?

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Yes.

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So I had to turn off my lights. But then that was about to freak me out because I'm about to turn off my lights and I'm looking out this window.

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What else did we do? What other light packs did we use?

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So I turned off the light, and I'm standing there and no one's in front of the tree. I'm like, He's not there. And she's holding my shirt. She's like, He's out there. I promise. And I'm like, So I'm standing there in the dark, looking outside through the window. And then I look down at our driveway and this guy is sitting there looking right back at me. No! My heart sinks.

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I would immediately be on Zillow.

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I would have burned my house down, my own house down.

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He scared right at me. We had this old security camera that Patricia at the time did not hook up because we have all the ring cameras now. This was on a different system, but I knew it was right there. Immediately, I pick up the camera and I look right at him and I just put it right on our...

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You did that in front of him?

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I looked right at him and volved.

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You should called he thought.

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I set the camera up and I'm looking right at him and I'm like, okay, maybe this is just a crazy person. This is messed up. I'm going to get my phone and I'm going to call just neighborhood watcher, just to report that there is a crazy person right there. I didn't want to call like, fucking 911.

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He wasn't close enough.

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The way Patricia was explaining, was he in front of this tree or was he on the sidewalk tree? There was a big confusion where I kept thinking, this is a crazy person on the sidewalk tree. She finally... I'm like, Tell me, what did you see? Then as I'm talking to her and she's telling me, no, it was this tree, this tree right here. I was like, Oh, shit. Okay. He was on our property, taunting, looking right at Patricia. By the time we're talking, this guy gets up and walks away. I'm like, oh, fuck. Then Patricia, I needed to walk her to her car. I'm like, Oh, I'm going to walk you to the car because she needed to go get groceries. Then we're walking and he's further down the street. He has his hood on and is walking away.

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You all went to I would have locked up.

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Baby.

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I've been on DoorDash. There's no way.

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It could wait.

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Let the DoorDash driver come drop that food off.

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I can't remember if Patricia was getting groceries. She had to leave for something.

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Okay.

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That's the only thing I could see her leaving that late at night.

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She was saving alive.

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The man disappears, and we're very weird, very spoofed by it.

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We tell our neighbors about it. We're like, I don't know. That was weird. The sign he was holding, it was like... Then as I walked further, it looked like it was a newspaper, and there wasn't anything written on the newspaper.

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Did he leave anything behind? Did you go out and see if he dropped anything else?

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The newspaper said April fourth, 2024.

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He's like a time traveler. Went through a loop. Once again, this neighborhood that we live in is so safe. Occasionally,.

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I know where you live.

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It's like a- It is the nicest part of West Hollywood. I love it. That happens.

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Don't Don't tell me he's back. No.

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So a week later, when I'm back in, or last week, or I'm in Alabama, we get a ring doorbell notification. Someone's at our door ringing a doorbell. And what's weird is earlier in the day, another woman rang the doorbell. A professional-looking woman stood there, stopped, and then went to the person who lives right across from us, rang their doorbell, knocked, came back to ours, rang, knocked, and then walked away. We're like, That was weird. I don't know what that was.Salesperson. Then we get another ring doorbell notification. Patricia is like, Because this guy is... It's two guys, and he looks almost like a DEA agent. Dea agents have a zip-up bomber jacket thing. Yeah. I go, Oh, I'm like, This looks like an important thing. I see a flashlight a thing going on, and I'm like, Yes, can I help you? They go, Yes, we've received reports that there has been a peeping Tom who's been harassing women in this night. Neighborhood. No. Have you guys had any interactions like that? And I go, Yes. Funny you say that, a week ago, my wife was about to walk out around 7:00 or 8:00 PM, and she said that there was a man standing outside the house.

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And I tell him the whole story. I have my phone like this, okay? I think it's a police officer, someone who's working for law enforcement. And I'm sitting there explaining the whole story, giving him all the details as I would a police officer, okay? I'm saying the time, date, explanation, descriptions of what I could see from this guy.

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I am on the edge of my seat.

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This is crazy.

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Then he's like, Well, is your wife with you right now? I'd like to ask her some questions on what she saw, too. I'm like, Sure, even though I just explained it all to you. I give the phone back to Patricia, and Patricia this whole time is like, I don't want to talk to them. I'm like, Why not? Tell them what you saw. It's a police officer. This is something-I was lying. I was speaking. She is handing the phone. She gets the phone and she starts explaining what she saw. And he goes, and then he asked a question like, Well, how did it make you feel? And I'm like, What the fuck is this cop asking? How did it make you feel? So I'm like, What did it make you feel? I'm looking, listening to this, and I go, Give me that. And she looked down back at the phone. It's KTLA. The microphone, the news reporter is right up to the mic to our ring doorbell camera. To the ring? And the flashlight I saw is the camera. What? They were doing a full on interview with the news.

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They're allowed to do that? Wait, that's so weird.

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So I, this whole time, is thinking that I'm talking to police, law enforcement, because I didn't bother to look down at the camera. I was like, whatever. That's crazy. We've been doing an interview on The News.

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They're just panning to the door, and it's just your voice.

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They couldn't see you.

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No, it's not. No, it's not. So we get the whole story, and then right when we hang up, I was like, Patricia, it hangs up. And I'm like, Why didn't you tell? She goes, I didn't know it was the news, but I was trying to tell you, and I'm like, Fucking tell me. There's a mute button. You could just be like, You know it's the news you're talking to, right?

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I would have hated that, especially the way I was like… Because I would be stumbling over my words. I'd be like, I wouldn't be.

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So, peeping Tom in West Hollywood. Is this it? Click, Is there a link to the story?

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Matt, was that him? Yes. The search is on tonight for a man who is exposing to women, harassing them, and even looking through their windows.

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Police say the suspect has been brought in in in a city part of the West. That's what I thought it was a DEA agent. Look at the gentleman.

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Oh my gosh.

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He was sitting and leaning against the tree in our yard, staring directly at me, which freaks me out. Patricia.

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We couldn't...

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Matt, when you were describing this guy, in my head, I was picturing one of those...

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Like a tweaker.

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Like a tweaker that you would see on Hollywood Boulevard. Honestly, they don't look that scary walking by.

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You just know what they are.

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You know what's going on. You almost feel safe walking by those people.

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It's more sad than scary. Yeah.

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But Matt, that was a full on documentary serial killer. Bro, that gave me goosebumps. If I saw that outside my fucking apartment It was so much worse than I expected. It was so much worse.

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What's freaky is that Patricia and I, we live right there on a very high traffic sidewalk. Sometimes when we're hanging out at night, we're like, Let's close the curtains because when you walk by, hell, I'll even just look at people's homes. Because it's that intimate. When you can look into people's homes, and we've always just cover up. Then sometimes I'll be like, That blind, I don't trust. I want that closer because anybody could be looking at us. We've always thought that, and sure enough. That's why Patricia's energy, she was like, This is a man who stayed.

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The thing is she knew something in her gut was wrong.

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It wasn't like a crazy drunk homeless person who's-Women's intuition.

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I feel like Patricia is the type to... If she did see a harmless person just being a weird or being a tweaker, she would just been more like, fuck that.

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Yeah, she'd be like, There's a crazy person outside.

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Yeah, there's a crazy person outside. But that was murder vibes. That was fucking murder.

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I can't get over the fact that he was trying to open windows during this.

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I can't get over the mic with the ring camera.

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Yeah, that was-That's a crazy shot.

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After we realized it was the news or I found out. We were like, Okay, but there's no way they're going to have a clip of someone interviewing a ring camera on the news.

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Sure enough.

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Then two days passed and I go, I should look up that Peeping Tom thing to see if we made this segment. That is hysterical. Patricia and I are sitting watching it, and then we're like, Oh, we're not in this. We're not... And then what the hell? Patricia paused it, walked out of the room. She was like, I can't believe it.

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Well, look, I'm glad you guys are okay. This situation happening, now you guys know exactly what you need to set up, what to have prepared. Oh, yeah. To never let anything like that to get that far.

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Did you get your cameras and stuff set up?

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Yeah. We're like, Let's lure him back. Patricia opens the blinds. She's like, Try it on swimsuits.

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Matt, That's what you get into a mode like that where you want to catch this guy. You start like, remember when the guy kept breaking my house, we were putting shit out in front of the window. We got a laptop with a stack of... We were like, we want to reel this guy in. Most of the time, you just want this man off the streets. You don't know if he's going to be back there. What if he felt some emotion to that area and it wants to come back? They're fucking crazy. Before we continue, this episode is sponsored by Lumie and Mando.

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You know what I wish I did, though? I wish I did. If I knew it was the news, I would have been like, We were mortified. I would have been like, Oh, my wife, she was shook it up like a ragged doll.

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Just to see where- Just to get a clip to go viral.

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Yeah, unbelievable. Never. That's my wife we're talking about here.

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You know what? That's a moment where you've probably been waiting for, just a moment with the news because it's really rare to get the news come up to you like that.

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You could have been the new Antoine Dobson. Yeah.

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Not in this neighborhood. We got a peeping Tom in West Hollywood. Hide your kids, hide your wife. Be on alert.

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We're glad you guys are okay because that's very scary. It was just...

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I'm so glad because I Patricia at first was like, Don't answer this ring doorbell camera. She thought like something... She thought at first it was the doorbell.

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Imagine opening the door. What could have happened?

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I would have been filming from neck down.

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Oh, no, sorry. I was like, Oh, sorry about the peeping I'm sorry.

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Zane would be like, Can you get me from this side?

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This is my good angle.

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Could you just stand on this side?

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Oh, wait, can I say that again? Yeah. Can you cut that? Can I cut it?

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Wait, actually, no, I wasn't involved. No, no, no. My My friend was telling me about it.

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No, my girlfriend was actually lying. She was actually lying, so you can't post that. She was lying, she was lying, she was lying, she was lying, she was lying.

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Can I talk about this on a podcast? When are you putting this out? Because our episode has to come out.

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Can you guys send me the footage? Send me whatever you guys have.

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That's actually probably the wildest thing that I've heard.

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When the news guy opened the door, was he hiding? Were they trying to hide that they were a part of the news?

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When I first answered, because I saw a light on, but I thought it was a cop badge.

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When you have a light coming into a camera, it just flashes it, you can't see.

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Why wouldn't they announced that they're the news? I feel like they're supposed to.

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He didn't. He should have.

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Isn't there some law? It's your home. It's in front of your home. Isn't there a law where- I was just so dumb.

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I just was walking around because we were watching some games, and I was walking around Patricia's house, Patricia's parents house, and it was dark in the other rooms, and I'm just acting like I'm on speakerphone. I'm not trying I be like, I should have looked down at the ring camera just to see who I was talking to. I just accepted it was law enforcement.

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Investigative reporters sometimes will not identify themselves when they're looking for information and want to keep people talking to them. Yeah.

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All right. Do you think they went to every single person on that street, knock on every door.

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That woman who went up there earlier in the day, I think she was a scout for the news to try to scout out the stories and give us a story. Is it okay if we come by at this time? Got it. But that video, though, of the one guy, I've been trying to feel like, where is that on our block? But it doesn't seem like it's on our block, that one. So I'm like, I don't know if there had been another report of someone on our exact block, but they got lucky with hitting us up. We were willing to give the story.

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How's Patricia doing mentally? That would sit with me. That would sit with me for a little bit.

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Well, I think-Not because a thief is different. She was scared right there in the moment of walking out to our place and seeing him, but he wasn't doing the thing. He was just looking right at her.

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Matt, even looking, I think, is just such a... Again, it's like the Michael Myers effect. Someone just standing there and looking at you.

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I feel like-You know what the most embarrassing thing I said, though, to who I thought was a police officer? Because Patricia said he's out there with a sign. But the thing is, though, he was holding open a newspaper. Maybe he was covering himself with it. But I kept going, What's this sign? The first thing I thought, there's a man outside with the sign. I thought this was a crazy fan. Someone was taunting me with something. Crazy fan experience. When I was talking to the cops, I was like, Yeah, and I have this big following online. I thought it was a fan. I thought it was a fan who was taunting me outside of my home.

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What good thing they didn't put there.

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Yeah, exactly. That's the first thing when I realize it was-I'm really big on social media. Everyone will be like, who's... I just hope that guy doesn't see the ring doorbell camera and the texture of the wall and is I know that place.

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I'm coming by. That's terrifying. Yeah.

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There is a office episode where this guy is holding a newspaper, and he asks Phyllis for directions, and he's exposing himself on the newspaper.

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Oh, yeah. Because Phyllis comes in and she's all shooken up. What happened?

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Didn't they cut that scene out of the office? There are certain moments that they cut out of the show, and I feel like that was one of them.

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No, they didn't, but there's definitely clips that they did.

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The office geek. No, they didn't. No, they did not. No, they actually I know exactly which things they cut out. She's like, My favorite scenes.

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Season three episode. It's just crazy thinking about this, but then also the fact that somebody was in your home, Zane, and walked around and stole from inside your home while you were sleeping.

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I think about that so often. You guys were in the house and somebody came in.

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But you know what? For me, I think that scenario is 10 times worse than my scenario. And this guy was in my house, and I get that. But for me, there's a difference between someone going in your house and stealing something Then somebody like that in front of your house, masturbating, trying to get in. What the fuck are they trying to do?

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If you did have a window open or something and you guys were sleeping, he would have come in and stood over the bed.

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To me, that guy has a weapon on him also to do something. You're just going into the house and what?

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I was reading on Reddit about why these guys stalk and want to masturbate in front of people. It's a power that they have a control over of you, and they want to see you scared, and that you see them. They want you thinking and being worried about it. That is also getting them off. Then there were some people who were like, If you ever see it, you should laugh at them and point and laugh at them. That sounds like the worst.

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That's a good-It sounds like the most counterintuitive thing ever.

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You need to take it seriously. You want to be like, Get the fuck away from me. But by you being like, Get away, what are you doing? That's a really good point. Sorry, pardon my...

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I did it a couple of times, too. Don't worry. I stopped. I stopped myself.

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But that by laughing at them, that's when they're like, The whole mission is ruined.

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Then you have to stop because you can't...

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It makes them snap out of it.

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Because someone said, I've always laughed at them, and someone followed up and goes, This is what you should do if you really want to get your... You take back control over them. Is you just be like, You look like an idiot. Ha ha, hee, hee. But also that person could be like...

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What's so funny?

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But so spooky.

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Point and laugh. The last thing I would have thought about.

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That turns out they're into that shame stuff.

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They love that, yeah. They get to He's like, Oh. Loser. You're doing different characters to see what's going to get him to stop.

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I hope that somebody... Because it doesn't look like a homeless person because he has a car and he's getting around.

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Dude, he was dressed nice. That's That's what made it scarier.

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Somebody has to recognize him. Tiktok, do your thing.

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Seriously.

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That's a pretty good side... It's our right side profile.

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But if I saw that- I saw a mustache when he was sitting down in the alleyway, but him wearing the black hoodie, that's exactly what he was wearing. And that looked more like the description. That one clip of that guy was like, That's him. If you had to put a line of people up-Oh, would Patricia be able to point out in a lineup? Yes, Patricia did.

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Actually, couldn't Patricia be sent there? Do they do lineups for this type of situation? If Patricia was like, You know what? I know what he looks like. That's when they would-I think they still do lineups.

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For this situation, would they do a lineup? Yeah, but what I don't get about lineups, and I never feel like I understand it in the movies, those are all the other people that have been arrested, and they just fit the description. No one ever gets called in for a lineup, or do they?

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Oh, I don't know. Yeah, they do. It's both.

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I'm pretty sure it's both.

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So some people are inmates who are there, and then some are people off the street.

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If police are suspicious of somebody, they bring them in and put them in the lineup because they fit the description.

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In the lineup, is it other criminals, or is it- People in prison, people outside of prison.

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That fit the description.

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Say you get a speeding ticket or something, right? And a cop pulls you over for speeding, and then he looks at you, and there was a call in for a burglary, murder, something that just happened, and the description was your height, your eye color, dark features, but has bleached blonde hair and wearing a silver chain. Sure. They'd be like, Okay, I just got you for speeding, but you fit this description. I need you to come in. It could be the location that you're at, it could be the person.

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I want to be in a lineup one time. I would love to come in as a...

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But imagine they're like, him.

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Oh, yeah, right?

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Excuse me?

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That's what happened to my friend's husband. Wait, really? I talked about they had the documentary on him.

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Yeah. Oh, shit. Yeah, Yeah.

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He got wrongly convicted?

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Yeah, because he looks just like the guy who did it, and he went to prison for three years.

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They actually look very similar.

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Did they get any money?

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Yeah.

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Since we're on this topic, Mariah, are you allowed to talk about what happened to your mom? Her name when somebody else had the same name.

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Oh, sure. I got to clear the air.

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This is really funny about Mariah's mom.

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The other day, I don't know how my sister found this article, but there was a news article. My sister texted it in the family group and she was like, mommy's one letter away from never getting another job again. And I was like, what is this? And I clicked it. My mom's name is Tina Maria Amado. And there was an article that said, Tina Maria Amado, accused of sexually assaulting student in classroom.

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Not good.

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Not good.

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One letter off from a complete- But both work in schools, so it's like- Oh, horrible.

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Let me see if I can Oh, yeah. That would fuck up some Google searches when people are trying to do a background check. Just be like, well, look what I found.

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Mariah's mom trying to find a job, and they just misspell the computer. Enter Google search. I'm sorry, Ms. Amado.

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But most people don't usually Google search with the middle name. So Tina Amado is still coming up. That's true.

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Click the images.

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There's got to be a way around that.

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Nobody's Google searching you going Zan Ahmed Hijazi.

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Sometimes.

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I'm sure your mom would always If I was your mom, I would always in the interview be like, by the way, if you're doing a background check, just...

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Yes, there is someone there.

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There's two Tina models. I'm this one, obviously. This is the predator.

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You know what? That would be a great icebreaker. They get a good laugh. They're like, personality higher. Come on, come on, boy.

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It is. And you know what? They're going to remember that for a long time. And that's how you usually get the job. It's something that's memorable.

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It's so crazy to look at that face and know that it has the same name as your mom.

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Tina Marie Amado, 28. She does not look 28.

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She does not.

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Pleaded guilty. Three counts of taking indecent liberties with a minor bi-cause. I love how they word things.

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Yeah, don't make it sound nice. Say how disgusting it was. It is true.

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They always make that sound nice.

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Sexual relationship with student. April 12th on my dad's birthday. So there we go.

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On your father's. They are, and they're putting the date. Husband date of birth.

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No, this checks out. It all connects.

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It all connects.

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This checks out. Wait, is she in jail?

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This woman? Yeah, she's in jail. She's in purgatory right now.

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She's 23. She's our target audience. She's just on the treadmill and is like, You got to be kidding me. She's I've seen this message in the past, Mariah, our mom's the same.

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I'm sorry, only three months in jail?

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No. That's it? I don't get it. That's crazy.

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What is going on? I don't understand. I don't get it. After three months, she's going to-How old is this kid, the child? Got to be high school, 15 years old.

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This just happened, right?

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I actually don't know. Oh, no. 2012.

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How did she find this?

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It's the best, though, when there's someone that you already think is fishy, and you Google that name, and just court cases come up, you're like, Busting.

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Bingo.

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Wait, you can-Well, I don't want to say the incident, but there was a friend who thought they were getting screwed over by somebody, and I was like, Okay, let me look up this person. They've had three court cases against them. Probably don't sound like the best person in the world.

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I want to be more like you and look up stuff like that. Just do a little background check. I forget that you can look up arrest records. You can look up a lot more than you think.

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It's crazy. It depends on the state.

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Also, Do you know how there's these accounts now? I feel like I may have talked about it, where Instagram accounts will show a mugshot. It's Instagram accounts that people follow. Hey, this is the city, this is the mugshot. But do you know how So someone owns the private Instagram account that puts out all the mug shots. They sit there, and right when they see it, they put it on, sum up the whole caption, be like, Oh, this is your person who lives in your neighborhood, blah, blah, blah. But it could be any of us. If you got a DUI, this place has it. If you want to get that removed, guess how much you have to pay that Instagram account?

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Oh, this person is just charging an amount?

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So this person will charge the account because they have the cloud. Everyone else has to Google deep in to find it. They have the public post shaming you that the The whole city is following. $10,000 is what they take. So this kid, or whoever runs those mugshot accounts, just sit there and be like, Yeah, I'll take it down if you just pay me $10,000.

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It sounds so illegal. Yeah. But it's It's not illegal, right? Obviously not because it's public information. It's public information. They're just what they're doing is taking it for hide.

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They have the clout. They have all the attention on it.

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It just sounds so wrong. There's some of us. It's like, You know what? You deserve that. But there's some that is just like, Do we really need that on there?

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That isIt's a hustle. Then it's an unethical hack hustle.

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It's like that guy that goes around stealing dogs and then waits for the reward to be posted. And then you just go bring the dog back and get the reward.

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You're saying that Do you know somebody that does that?

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There was this guy that was just talking about doing it. I wish I thought about that.

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Yeah, it was a good business. What's this shit? Maybe you could be a dog stealer.

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Especially in LA, people wanting their Frenchies back. Oh, yeah. $10,000 reward.

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You can start with Leo's.

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I knew somebody who thought that... You know when Ingrid goes West, how she kidnaps her dog as a way of getting closer to Elizabeth Olson?

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Smart.

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I knew a girl who was friends with the writer and had that idea for a script, and she told him about it, and then he went and wrote that movie. She was always like, That was my fucking idea. Oh, wait, really? Yeah, this person I knew was so frustrated that that was the opening bit of how a person could lure themselves into being best friends with you is by like, Is this your dog? I just found him like, Oh, my God, we've been looking for forever. Please come in. And then like, Oh.

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You know what? I bet you that's how every movie is made. It's just that situation. Somebody overhears a conversation, and then they write it down, and it's their idea. Yeah. That's Hollywood for you, babe.

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You keep you. Welcome. Speaking of Hollywood.

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Why do I feel like we're both about to say the same thing? Can I say the same time?

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Yeah. One, two. Three, two, three. Quiet on set. Oh, P Diddy. Oh, I said Quiet on set.

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Wait, we haven't talked about Quiet on set. No.

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They're releasing two more episodes. No, they're not. Two more episodes. There's more stories. There's no way. I swear. They just posted it yesterday night. I thought they closed it out.

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No.

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I think there's going to be more stories.

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There's more. Hopefully, those victims get some money off of it. It's just, hopefully, there's no one who's like, This is going to be good business. We're going to sell this trauma, and then we're going to make them wait, and then we're going to make some more money.

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But yeah, I just wanted to point that out because we talked about it last episode, and I honestly... I know there's a lot more out there, especially in that Nickelodeon world. I just didn't think that there would be more to come out on camera and say something. But yes, Mariah. The P.

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Ditty stuff is-P.

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Ditty stuff. I didn't get too far into it because in my head, it just seems too weird. It can only take We don't know officially yet what-We just know that he's being rated. That's all we know.

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Because they know something.

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People are making speculations of why he's being rated.

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People are saying that he's the Epstein of the rap world, of the hip hop industry. Wow. And that he's been secretly blackmailing a lot of other people, trafficking all of that. Don't come for us for definition.

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Allegedly. This is all right. That's what you say, allegedly.

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When they have to raid the home, know something's in there.

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They got tipped off some information where they were like, look in the second drawer in his closet, there's a fake bottom, and inside there are albums.

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Can I say something? It's a little different types of albums.conspiracy theory. I just like…Do what's in. You got it. In some cases, I believe that rates will happen not only to find evidence on that person, but I think also to extract evidence to cover certain people. I believe this because when people say, no one's above the law, there are people above the law. There's a lot of people above the law. Money talks. Money talks. And there's people We have to remember that there are people that own the FBI. The FBI just doesn't come out of nowhere. Cia, FBI. There are people up that own the FBI. Them and their friends are always going to be good because-That's why it's so sick. If you own a company, you think If you're getting, or not own a company, but if you own some section of law enforcement, you think you're going to get in trouble when you're their boss? Absolutely not. You're always going to have your name cross off the list. When you get stopped for a speeding ticket, if you're a cop, what usually happens? You get off. You get off. They don't give you that ticket because you're like, you're a part of them.

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They look out for each other.

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Exactly. I'm not saying that's horrible. It's just a normal thing. It's like if I was in an agency or something and you wanted to get a job, and I'm going to probably help you get that job because you're my friend. It makes sense. Why would it not make sense in a crazy case where it involves FBI?

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Look at all the people who got away with things because of their higher power.

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Yeah. Epstein got away for so long, and they knew about him for years and years and years and years.

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But he had politicians, like lassoed into it, too.

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It doesn't matter. It's just money. It's money.

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Did you see the Nickelodeon logo is Epstein's Island?

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I saw that.

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Yeah, but that is the biggest stretch ever.

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The one that just made me like, Come on, the foot logo. The foot logo is wild. It's crazy that we just went right over our heads.

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The P. Diddy stuff has been talked about for a while.

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Now people are bringing up old interviews and tweets and stuff of the people that everybody thought was crazy. All them saying P. Diddy did it, Usher, all these names, Drake, whatever, all these names that are being dropped. Orlando Brown said so much shit, and everyone thought he was crazy.

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It is crazy.

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I wish he was a little bit more credible.

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Yeah, I know.

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It was wild. The registration to his house is in his daughter's name. And there's these other... All of his assets are all in his kids' names. And already, if you're doing that, because you don't want it to get seized because they can't take the house because it's in his daughter's name. Wow. Okay. So when they, I think, I I believe that's what I read when it first came out. Right when I saw that, I go, Yeah, he's busted. He's hiding something.

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Somebody posted a video of them outside of his house after the raid, and it was trash day. I saw that. And they were like, I'm going to be digging through this trash.

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Apparently, somebody that used to work for him basically ratted out who his drug mule was that was bringing the drugs to seduce to date these women, basically, and people to do these certain sexual acts or whatever.

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The girl-The girl that he was seeing.

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They gave up the name to the guy that was the mule or whatever, and they ended up catching that guy at the airport. They went and found who this person was, and they busted him. On him, he had the drugs that this person snitched that was talking about. It was true that this guy was the mule that was doing this. They were like, If that's true, and they When they caught this guy for the drugs that they said he was having, then it's just building the credibility for this.

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It's like a stack of dominoes. It's all going to unfold. It's wild.

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It's better not just fizzle out. I know. Something's got to come out of it because this is connected to so many things that we don't even know about.

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I hate when she fizzles out like this. Something just so... There's just way too much. Too many people are talking about this. There's so much evidence, and it just fizzles out.

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Kat Williams was talking.

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I bet you the FBI was taking all that information just for the safe.

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1.24 is going to be the year.50.

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Cent, too.Fifty.

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Cent.ben talking about all this.I'm.

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Waiting for Justin Bieber. Come on, you can do it.

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He would never. He's just too big to be talking. All these people, even in Right on set, all the Ariana Grande's and all that, they're never going to come out and talk. I just think they're…

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Maybe not publicly, but if I was Justin Bieber and I knew something, I would be like, Hey, anonymous tip, or just be like, I'll tell you what you need to know. Please don't put my name out there.

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The thing is that it's not credible. It's not that credible without a name.

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The thing is that they're entitled to their own privacy, and they're entitled to… I don't know. I want this to sound right. They're entitled to their own narrative. If you are Bieber, if you are an Ariana Grande, they have transcended that, and it would be noble of them to stand alongside the other victims. But by them coming forward and being a part of it, then that shifts a lot of their focus and their narrative of the icon status that they've established. They don't want to now be known and drawn into all of this, and this is their story.

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It's weird saying that out loud, but it's true though.

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They want to focus on their albums. They want to focus on their tour. They don't want to have to deal with this whole new wave of drama. That's a whole new section on their Wikipedia page about this whole scandal. They don't want it to get in people's brain where they're tied to this.

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Just think about just their mental health, too. Having to go around for the next three years and all everybody wants to ask you about. It's something so traumatizing back then. Because that's all people will talk about is that. And then you're just like, not dragged back in, but it's just something they've probably been fighting to get out of.

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Yes. It's just crazy how people create just a nasty web of all of that. And you're having so much success, so much Fame, all that, and you think, I'm not going to get caught. Huh? Like, what type of ego mania.

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With the amount of people that know what you've done is crazy that you just... Or your ego is so big where you just don't think it's anything's going to happen because you're just that big and this many people know.

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Or you think you can just pay off whoever to... Yeah.

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But you know what's crazy? I would be like, Sure. I would take the money immediately go. I'll give money to...

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I don't know. They have something against you. They lured you and filmed you doing something that was really bad.

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But there's no contract that's going to get me in trouble for taking the money and telling somebody what you did that was horrible.

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Well, that's what they do. It's all blackmail. Yeah, it's a blackmail. They drug you and then they film...

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Hush money in blackmail.

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Bad shit going on.

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The filming, yeah, I guess that's where they catch you.

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It's like, Say something about me. This video goes out, and it's like...

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And it's not he leaked it. He will give it to the right person in the right hands, and it will look bad on you. Not for you to be like, This person leaked it.

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And then they own you once they have that on you, and then it's like, they can make you do whatever. They're like, You want me to put that video out? No, you're going to come here and you're going to do this right now. And then it's just never-ending. Yeah. Awful.

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When is blackmail ethical? It's never.

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There's so many different forms of blackmail if you really think about it. There's legal ways, and there's illegal ways if you really think about it.

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I'm trying to think.

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Isn't blackmail... Isn't a season to cist almost like blackmail? You better take this down or we're going to do this.

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No, because there's not something being dangled above you. Yeah.

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You're not being like...

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That's just a demand.

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That's a demand. It's a legal demand because you're...

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To me, it's blackmail.

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I love Blackmail, though, is such a perfect wording.

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It's so what it is. It sounds exactly what it is. Blackmail.

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It's a beautiful word. It's blackmail. The first person who thought a blackmail must have been just like, I got it. I figured it all out.

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It just took one, two words. Just like, I did it.

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Oh, yeah. I bet back in the day, if you just had a photograph, it must have been so easy to blackmail people back then, I think.

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With just a photograph?

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But think about, I would have felt much more confident in the day knowing that it was a single photocopy.

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Now, it's a video that could be immediately multiplied in seconds. You got to send it to one person. You can't go track that down. If somebody's like, Well, I got this picture right here of you, I would run for that picture.

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But if you were like a guy and you hung around the Coco Cabana and you saw that this guy is the wealthiest man in town, he's having an affair, and you take that picture and you meet him in a different town where his wife and and he's living happy going, I got that photo from the Coco Cabana. I went $1,000 a week or this goes to the top press.

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There's all that shit. But it's worse now, though.

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What do you mean? I feel like back then it was just like…

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It was because it was just so hot, so new.

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Yeah, I don't know. I feel like you could…

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It was just more raw. Yeah. Because you can't Photoshop it. He's like, This is the real thing. I got the real thing in my hand.

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I was watching a movie recently. What was it? Paper Moon. And there was a guy who was a scammer in town. And what he did, he would look up if there was an obituary of somebody who had died in a town. And then he would go to the family of whoever died and be like, Does so and so live here? And they go, They just passed away. And he goes, Oh, I'm so sorry to hear that. He ordered a Bible. This was a Bible that he ordered. Who do I make this out to? I'm supposed to collect money for the Bible. And people are like, Oh, my God. He bought a Bible right before he passed away. Let me get my checkbook. I can't believe that he bought a Bible. Yeah, absolutely. It was just... He goes town to town. People would sell Bibles to families saying that the person who just passed away had just ordered that Bible before they died.

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Wow. Mariah, is this a special place in hell for that?

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100%. Deepest level. He has the letter press. He would press their name, a personalized their name on the Bible, go, His name's written right here. He ordered it to his name.

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I'll tell you what, scammers are the hardest workers I've ever known.

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They're so good.

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Do they really deserve everything? Because they hustle.

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Yeah, they That's a hustler. I just watched this one story about this guy who was getting fake social security cards made for unborn kids and then build the credit up for seven months. And then he was buying homes in their name.

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What?

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Then he ended up-How do you get away with that?

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How do you do that? He was crazy. He was an unborn kid.

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Kids that didn't exist? People that didn't exist. He would call into the hospital and be like, Hey, My wife just had a kid. Six months ago, we did a water birth at home. Can we just get it registered? I totally forgot to mail in the thing to let you guys know so we can get the birth certificate. Then he would falsify that there was a water birth at home. What year was this? Not that long ago. Oh, whoa. So he would do that, and he was creating babies.

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They don't need to bring the baby in for fingerprints proof. Nothing. It's just send over the information.

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I guess. He was the first person to realize nobody was verifying this type of stuff.

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Or you say, what's the person that does the at home birth?

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The doula, the midwife.

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The midwife. You say that there was the midwife or something as a proof type thing or whatever. But yeah, he was making all sorts of social security cards for these fake babies. Then he would open an account for a credit card in that social security number. This is a brilliant thing. Would pay it off because he He had bad money. He was paying it off, building these credits up, and then he would go and buy houses, and he would just lie about the age of the person that social security card it was. He was buying houses in a really cheap neighborhood that were $50,000. But he knew somebody that was in real estate, and if you paid extra, they would appraise the house at $200,000. Okay. He was buying houses for $50,000, $50,000, $50,000 with these fake people, getting it appraised for 200,000. Then he had built this entire community neighborhood of 200 plus thousand dollar homes that he only technically paid 50,000 for. Then was flipping them and getting...

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This is a brilliant scam. That's Nile.

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Because Because they would check the comps of the area and the house next door sold for 200 on paper. The house next to that was 200. People were like, Oh, my God, I guess these houses are really worth this much money.

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It's a good neighborhood.

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That's where it's messed up.

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Crazy, dude.

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But I like that nobody really is getting... Besides the people who are buying the houses over something that is undervalued, that's where someone gets hurt.

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But then he would go take out loans against these houses that were valued at this. So he was...

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Yeah, it's bad. It's a terrible bad practice. But it's a genius loophole.

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But this type of stuff-Oh, this just happened last year.

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Oh, my God.

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This stuff, I'm okay with because...

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You're okay with it, Clipet.

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That shit takes work, man. This guy was working a full-time job doing this. This wasn't a scam where you just go rob somebody.

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This is like a catch me if you can.

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How do you think about this idea?

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Where someone should hire this guy to help figure out how a company can't be scammed. This guy was waking up in the morning. Coming for security consulting.

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And putting on a nice outfit and going to work every day to do this shit.

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The paranoia, though, even if I was pulling that off, I know me, couldn't sleep. Not knowing that I'm doing something. Just the paranoia of I'm doing a lie every day, and if someone found out, I could serve years in prison.

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It's crazy that there's still scams out there that haven't been done yet. There's going to be a first person to find out how to do it, and then they're most likely going to get away with it until the next person does it, and then they get caught because they already implemented a way to catch those types of scams. That's so crazy to me that there's still thousands of ways in the future that you can scam people.

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Speaking of another scam, did you see the kid that put his legs in dry ice?

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No. What?

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This is too far. Well, obviously.

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These two kids came up with this idea to commit insurance fraud because the one- And with the benefits of disabled- Yeah, the one friend told them, You'll get over a million dollars.

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Yeah, so they came up with the idea to get their legs amputated. They tried. When did they try the first time? That didn't work.

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Yeah. Then they're like, We got to go harder. They went and the kid put his feet in a bucket of dry ice for-10 hours. 10 hours. Ten hours. Ten hours.

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Commitment. They zip-tied him to the chair to make sure he wouldn't get up. But they went into the hospital because he clearly had frostbite, right?

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How did they prove it? What was the-They didn't.

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They gave them this whole story, and they didn't believe him. So his legs are amputated, right? But the police caught onto him and knew what he was doing, so he got no benefits.

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And they got busted for trying to commit insurance fraud.

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He got arrested on top of not having a leg anymore.

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Dude, people have worms in their brains, man. This is like...

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They didn't try to come up with a brilliant... If I was going to dry ice my for 10 hours to try to get some insurance money. I would have a whole story fucking lined up to the T. Everybody around me has the same story all lined up. That's insane.

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A student is persuaded by a friend to get his legs amputated for a 1.3 million an insurance scam, wound up getting only 7,200 that he now has to return.

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Oh my goodness.

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Now you have no money and no legs.

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This was in Taiwan?

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There's a picture of him sitting in dry ice.

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Oh, gosh, I can't.

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They zip-tied him to it so he couldn't get out.

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Why would you do both? Is it like 500,000 per leg?

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600 per leg.

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Buy one, get one free.

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Buy one, get one double. I would at least have one on me just in case it didn't work.

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Well, what a rough ride of an episode today. Yeah, that was wild.

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Wild. Okay.

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