Listener discretion is advised. This episode features discussions of medical malpractice, as well as sexual and violent situations that may be upsetting. We advise extreme caution for listeners under 13, some professions aren't made for multitasking. Dentistry, for example, requires a significant amount of precision and focus, and people will pay top dollar for undivided experts attention. After all, no one wants a distracted doctor performing their root canal. But what if a dentist preoccupation was about more than just upcoming appointments or evening plans?

What if they were actually plotting a bomb detonation? For Dr. Glenanne and Gillman's patients, this should have been a very real concern. But none of them suspected that the man drilling at their teeth was a vicious killer.

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Hi, everyone. It's Dr. Kipper and very happy to be here to assist Allaster with some medical insight into the fascinating case of Dr. Glenanne Engelmann, a dentist that went far beyond filling cavities.

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This is our first episode on Glenanne Engelmann, a St. Louis dentist who moonlighted as a hitman for Engelmann murder for money electrified the monotony of his day job. Today, we'll look at Engelmann early years as a dentist and his initial attraction to contract killing, which was spawned by a single scheme with his ex-wife in the 1960s and 70s. Using women to entrap his victims became his M.O.. Next time, we'll follow how Engelmann greed, infidelity and ego turned his closest confidants against him.

We'll also explore and Goldman's final murders, which led to his capture and imprisonment. All this and more coming up.

Stay with us. Fifty nine year old Sophie Berowra had no idea that January 14th, 1980, was her last day on Earth.

If she'd known, she might not have spent the whole day working at the dental lab. But enjoyment was the last thing on her mind. Months earlier, someone had planted a bomb outside her home in St. Louis, Missouri. Ever since, she lived in fear that whoever it was would try to kill her again and worse the next time they'd be successful. Sadly, Sophie's dread was well warranted. At 445 p.m. on January 14th, Sophie ended her workday and headed to her red Ford Pinto, which was parked behind her dental lab as she got in the driver's seat.

She didn't notice the small piece of wood with a button jammed underneath the front left tire.

It was placed carefully so that when the car rolled back, it would detonate a bomb waiting under her seat.

Sure enough, Sophie started the ignition, put the Pinto into reverse and set off the explosive.

The blast blew apart the front of the car, shattered nearby windows and hurled the steering wheel onto the roof of a six story building next door. But the vehicle's carnage was only half of it.

Bits of Sophie's body had also flown in all directions.

This explosion completely destroyed the lower half of Sophie's body. Death from a bomb detonation can come in many forms, but boils down to massive bleeding or blood loss caused from major internal and external injury. And Sophie's case, her legs took the brunt of the impact, and it's likely they were traumatically amputated by the force of the bombs blast and flying metal shrapnel of the exploding car. Traumatic amputation is when a body part is accidentally torn and separated, violently detach from the rest of the body.

This would have caused a severing of Sophie's femoral artery, the major blood channel, to the leg. This alone would have caused a quick death from bleeding out. Technically speaking, this is death from exsanguination, which means severe and fatal blood loss. Sophie died violently, but instantly. This manner of death made two things clear about the killer. For one, whoever it was wanted to be sure Sophie died. They were also deeply angry with her and nobody was more irate at Sophie than Glenanne Engelmann, a St.

Louis dentist. Sophie had taken to court over unpaid debts, but it seemed she had crossed the wrong dentist. Sophie wasn't England's first victim. She was his seventh.

His first murder happened just over two decades prior. Many question whether killers are born or made. And Glenanne and Gelman's early history doesn't help much in answering that question.

But one thing is certain. Before he started offing people, Glenanne Engelmann loved making porn's of them. After a stint at the Army Air Corps in the late 1940s, Engelmann enrolled in a dentistry program at Washington University in St. Louis around 1950. It was here he perfected his womanizing ways, diverting him from his boring coursework. But his game as a so-called player wasn't without its struggles. Though Engelmann was only in his early 20s, he'd begun losing his hair and his dough faced.

Pargneaux appearance didn't exactly draw in female attention, nor did his arrogance.

However, Engelmann had something a lot of other guys his age didn't charisma. That was what Ruthe first noticed about him.

Ruthe was said to be a regular party girl who frequented bars around campus, and Engelmann was unlike any man she'd ever dated. He was quick to charm her, wielding his sexual power like a hypnotic drug. She fell for him fast, and the two were married by 1953, when Engelmann was 26. Despite this, the newlyweds never live together. Ruthie lived with some students and female only housing, while Engelmann continued to live with his mother and he conveyed no interest in changing that.

After all, he didn't have to pay any rent. That lack of financial responsibility was particularly important to Engelmann in the years after he left college, as he started his own dental practice without monthly rent costs. He was able to provide good discounts to patients as he built up his client base on the south side of St. Louis, Missouri. But while his nature seems charitable, his attitude didn't match. Though he depended on his mother for room and board, he boasted about his self-reliance.

And even though a vast majority of his clients were low income, he called people on welfare freeloaders. He was also an avowed racist, once investigated by the St. Louis Civil Rights Commission for refusing care to a black woman. At the same time, he and his mother took in a Mexican family. The Miranda's providing them housing and jobs. Engelmann even trained two of the Maranda girls as dental assistants. These contradictions revealed Engelmann true character. Simply put, he made his own rules and he wasn't afraid to vocalize them.

Somehow, the townspeople of St. Louis still took a general liking to him. He may have been opinionated, but his flexible prices and walk in welcome appointment policies kept patients coming back, though this didn't mean much to him, nor did the decent salary he made. Like his college courses, the mediocrity of his day to day life board him, and when he wanted an escape, he followed his wild libido. Even though he was married to Ruthie, Engelmann, refused to give up his sex capades when his wife didn't satisfy him, he simply took his voracious appetite elsewhere.

And Ruthie wasn't much better. The two cheated on each other consistently, a habit that didn't support their relationship. Soon, they divorced amicably in 1956 and Engelmann was twenty nine. It had been only three years, but it wasn't all bad news for Engelmann because he'd been able to keep Ruthie in his life as a friend. They continued sleeping together and he even provided her free dental care. Even when Ruthie remarried about a year after their split, Engelman had an urge to protect and provide for her.

And he decided that the best way to do that would be to kill Ruthie's new beau with her consent. Of course. On December 17th, 1958, Ruthie's husband of six months, James Bullock, headed out for his night classes at St. Louis University. It was around seven p.m. at seven thirty seven pm. Bullock's corpse was discovered in an alley behind the City Art Museum. He'd been shot once in the chest with a shotgun and twice in the head and once in the left shoulder with a 22 caliber pistol.

Either injury might have been enough to kill Bullock. A shotgun blast of birdshot can do some real damage. When fired, the pellets burst from the shotgun shell and spread outward to cover a large, wide area. If fired from a close enough distance, birdshot to the chest could cause fatal internal bleeding if the heart was nicked or punctured. Deaths from suffocation could also occur if these pellets managed to pierce the lungs, causing them to deflate and collapse. A second shot to the head was really a seal on the deal.

The wounds here definitely revealed that the murderer wanted to be sure Bullock died.

The use of two different weapons was strange. It implied the murder was premeditated. But the St. Louis police were thrown off by the fact that the alley was a known meeting spot for gay men. They assumed Bullock had been having an affair and was murdered by his lover or an angry bigot. This theory dominated the investigation, bringing detectives to a dead end rather quickly, which was lucky for Engelmann. If they dug even a little deeper, some revealing evidence might have caught their attention, like the 64000 dollars insurance payout Ruthie collected on her dead spouse or the continuing affair she had with her ex-husband, Glenanne Engelmann.

Perhaps they would have even noticed that 20000 dollars from Bullock's insurance payout was directly invested into a project of Engelmann. Every clue in the Bullock case led back to Glenanne Engelmann, but it would take years before anyone put them all together. Coming up, Engelmann Devizes, his second kill.

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And Engelmann apathy towards his lackluster day job appeared to leave him hungry for reckless affairs and criminal schemes. His first murder in December 1958 only further escalated his dark desires. But for several years he didn't act on them. Instead, he found himself a new girlfriend. She was a librarian named Ida and shortly after his divorce from Ruthie, Engelmann married her. But the relationship was quickly tainted by Engelmann lust for other women. And it didn't take long before he decided that one in particular would be the key to his next plot.

It was Eda's 18 year old niece, Sandy, who called England's wandering eye. Her innocence made her easy prey for Engelmann. When he put the moves on her, she swooned at his charms. His advances were her first foray into her sexuality.

Soon, Sandy began frequenting his office to do clerical work, which made a good cover story for their regular sexual meetings. With his confidence bolstered by his secret affair, Engelmann decided it was time to put the savings from his first murder to good use. He invested in a drag racing strip outside of St. Louis, thinking it would be a lucrative way to branch out of dental care. But his expectations had been ill informed. He quickly sunk under construction and operating costs, losing every last cent of the 20000 dollars he'd made off of Steve Bullock's murder.

But Engelmann couldn't just let his bold business venture lead nowhere. He wanted to make it worth his while. So he decided to secure himself another life insurance payout. However, this time he couldn't use his ex-wife Ruthie to get it. She didn't have a husband he wanted dead, so he turned to Sandy. His teenage lover, Sandy, apparently didn't take much prodding from Engelmann. She'd experienced his angry outbursts and knew how cruel he could be when she didn't agree with him and she wanted his love.

So when Engelmann told her to flirt with one of the workers at the drag strip, a young twentysomething named Eric Fry, she did.

It didn't take long for frying to fall for her sexually adventurous tactics. The two caught it briefly and married in September 1962. Within three months, Sandy purchased the maximum amount of life insurance available on her new husband. His 25000 dollar policy would be worth nearly a quarter of a million dollars in modern currency.

In the 1960s, life insurance was offered only as a whole life policy, which covered the applicant for their whole life. Whereas term life insurance options, which provided coverage for only a specified number of years, came many years later because of Frey's age and his relatively clean bill of health.

He was easy to insure.

Life insurance companies often require medical exams to uncover previous conditions to assess their risk. These measures are taken to identify health risks that could cost carriers money and some common red flags.

They look for are obesity, whether someone smokes. And if someone has a history of substance abuse or mental illness, life insurance companies will review the patient's records from their own doctors, but will have a doctor from their insurance company perform the examination. Eric Fry seemed to be the perfect specimen young, active and healthy. His large policy pleased Engelmann, and in the late summer of 1963, he decided it was time to pounce.

Fry and Sandy had been married almost a year when Engelmann asked Frey to help him with a big project out on the drag strip. There was an old well on the property that Engelmann wanted to seal with dynamite. Fry agreed his stint in the military made him proud, and he relished the opportunity to impress Engelmann with his knowledge of explosives. So on September 26, 1963, Frey and Engelmann met at the drag strip and planted the dynamite in the well free way at the charges and stepped back from the whole pleased with his work.

But as he looked down at the detonator button in his hand, preparing to set off the dynamite, Engelmann hit him over the head with a large rock. Stunned, Frye turned around in horror to find Engelmann holding his makeshift weapon. As Fry caught on to what was happening, he allegedly screamed at his employer, Why? Why do you want to kill me? But Fry was slurring, and a gurgling came from his throat.

It seems clear that he suffered a traumatic brain injury from the blunt force trauma of Iraq to the head. Traumatic brain injury is characterized by physical damage to the brain caused by an external force. This damage usually manifests as bruising, bleeding and torn tissue. It also makes sense that Frey was slurring his speech and making gurgling sounds as acute traumatic brain injuries have been known to cause disorder 3R, a condition that impairs the tongue, larynx and coordination of the muscles that control vocalisation.

This kind of injury can often be fatal, and death would likely be caused by a brain hemorrhage or bleeding in the brain. Surviving this kind of trauma is also likely, depending on the severity of the damage.

Though he was stunned by the blow to the head, Frye was still alive, but Engelmann was quick to finish the job. According to one account, Engelmann shoved Frey into the hole, then hurried away, pulling out a second detonator. Then he pressed the button. Within seconds, the dynamite exploded and the well collapsed. Several tons of dirt and debris buried Frye, who at that point might have still been alive.

Being buried alive is a horrifying thought.

One major cause of death from this would be suffocation. When someone gets completely covered by debris and soil, they're unable to move and the pressure from the surrounding dirt on their body can be immense.

The weight of this amount of dirt covering them compresses their chest, which renders respiration impossible.

And to clarify, the soil would basically get inhaled, causing obstructions in the air passages of the nose and mouth making breathing even more impossible.

Without any oxygen entering its lungs, Frey would have most likely been dead within a few minutes.

The blast made it look as though Frey had blown himself up in a terrible accident. Then, without a second thought, Engelmann launched into theatrics, hollering for help at the top of his lungs. He screamed Eric Frye's name over and over, feigning shock, then demanded someone get to a phone and call an ambulance. It looks like Eric's dead, but on the inside, Engelmann grinned.

There were several witnesses at the drag strip that day, including Sandy. But it seems nobody told the sheriff anything suspicious when he arrived on the scene. So he ruled Frye's death an obvious accident and didn't even bother filing a report when Frye's body was pulled out of the well. His widow, Sandy, requested that no autopsy be performed following Engelmann advice.

She had her husband cremated immediately, so nobody looked too closely at his head wound. But even with the body accounted for, Sandy's work was far from over. The night of the bombing, she called her insurance agents and reported Frye's accidental death, then promptly asked when she could collect her twenty five thousand dollar check.

The insurance agent was shocked to hear from a widow on the day her husband died, especially considering their wedding anniversary was only days away.

In another twist of fate, it was the insurance company that did the most thorough investigation of Frys death and nearly uncovered the plot. They initially refused to pay out the claim as they scrutinized the relationships between Sandy Frye and Engelmann. The lead insurance agent on the case was rumored to have an entire filing cabinets devoted to the strange cast of characters.

Unfortunately, when the insurance lawyers showed their files to various law enforcement agencies, none of them pursued the tip on Engelmann.

Eventually, Sandy sued the insurance company to get her payout and they were forced to cough up the cash from Frys policy. Of the 25000, Sandy gave 16000 to Engelmann. The check she wrote him was labeled as an investment in his drag strip. But within a year and Goldman's racing arena went bankrupt, it seemed Engelmann had something else to invest his money in. Just months after the money from Frys death came in, Sandy gave birth to a little girl at the urging of Goldman's wife, Ida, who had deep suspicions of her husband and niece's relationship.

Sandy moved several states away to live with her grandmother, but out of sight was not out of mind for Glenanne Engelmann, the child that was likely his may have been his primary reason for killing Frey and collecting on the insurance payout. He justified his violent crimes, believing they were helping the people he loved most. First, it was his ex-wife, Ruthie.

Next it was Sandy and the baby. And just like his first murder, the threats of an incriminating police investigation never came. With the drag strip closed and Sandy gone, everybody soon forgot about Eric Frye's death.

Engelmann settled into the routine of his dental practice once more, taking a temporary reprieve from his criminal life.

It would be over a decade until Engelmann decided to kill again, and his next murder would be more complex than any he'd previously committed. But just like his first to the scheme would require a female accomplice. Up next, Engelmann, unless one of his employees in a long term murder plot. Now back to the story. By 1976, 49 year old Glenanne Engelmann had churned through a series of wives, mistresses, questionable investments and a pair of murders. He moved through his personal life quickly and without regret.

His marriage to either ended in 1965 when Engelmann threw her out of his house and his affair with Eda's niece, Sandy S.E, roughly around that same year, despite the fact that she'd borne his child. It's possible that their joint murder scheme soured the romance. But Engelmann wasn't a single man for long. In 1967, immediately after his second divorce was finalized, Engelmann married one of his longtime mistresses, Ruth. She shared a name with Engelmann first Brint Ruthe.

But the two marriages unfolded far differently. This time, Engelmann moved into an apartment with wife number three, finally leaving his mother's house. And it was good timing since his mother passed away a few years later. But like many other women in Engelmann life, Ruth left the picture as quickly as she had entered it. It seemed she discovered Engelmann was a murderer, but his charisma and frightening temper kept her from going to the police. This was a repeated pattern among the women Engelmann courted and used.

Their complacency and fearful subordination seemed to feed into Engelmann sense of superiority as a middle aged white professional who could literally get away with murder.

Engelmann was the smartest man he knew, but unfortunately, his self-satisfaction couldn't make him a good dentist. He'd been able to grow a decent client base, but his low prices couldn't sustain the company long term. Even worse, Engelmann sometimes had to eat the cost of procedures when he screwed up on impressions and X-rays the first time around. By 1976, Engelmann was behind on his taxes. He quickly run up debts with his dental laboratory, his bank and the Internal Revenue Service.

If he'd simply focused on his dental practice and paid his bills on time, he'd have made plenty of money. But Engelmann remained enticed by the thrill of murder and the quick payout that followed. And this time his financial crisis was enough to get him plotting. And Goldman was ready to commit his next crime, and he wanted to be sure it would be his most profitable murder. Yet that was just one problem. Engelmann didn't have a relationship to use for his gain with his earlier murders.

Engelmann female accomplices had been his ex-wife and his girlfriend.

Since the insurance schemes had worked so well before, Engelmann decided to find a suitable victim and lure them in, all he needed was bait. So he turned to his 24 year old dental assistant, Carmen. It was an easy sell. Carmen felt like she owed Engelmann.

She was one of the youngest children of the Myranda family who had lodged with Engelmann and his mother during the 50s and 60s. Over the years, Engelmann had employed several of the Myranda children, both at the drag racing business and his dental practice. But apparently Carmen was the only one of her siblings who kept working for Engelmann in St. Louis. To Engelmann, this meant that Carmen had stayed loyal. But above all, they shared a secret. Engelmann had given Carmen an abortion in the dental chair of his own practice.

In Goldman's medical knowledge in the realm of abortion was self-taught. However, as a dentist, he actually had quite a bit of resource at his disposal to perform a jerry rigged abortion on Carment. This is especially true of suction abortions, which are the most common form of this procedure. This is where the embryo or fetus is vacuumed or extracted from the womb through the vaginal canal via the cervix. It leads to the uterus. Engelmann likely had access to Laminaria areas, small sticks that can be placed into the cervix prior to an abortion that would dilate the cervix in order to facilitate this procedure.

He definitely had his own powerful suction devices used for dentistry, along with assorted surgical tools. So could have all been used to remove Carmen's pregnancy.

He had sedating chemicals to work with his.

Well, like nitrous oxide and sedation is common and usually necessary during these invasive procedures as a medical professional.

It would have been relatively easy for Engelmann to seek out and obtain any other instruments or devices to help his cause, like a speculum that's used to expand the vaginal opening. In addition, Angle might have had access to painkillers and would have been able to ease any post-operative discomfort Carmen was experiencing if he was in fact caring enough to offer it.

And lack of understanding and training in this department is definitely concerning and presented great danger to Carmen. There was a major risk that he could have inserted the operating tools improperly, which can lead to deadly conditions like sepsis, internal bleeding and internal organ damage. And this risk factor certainly played out. His makeshift abortion procedure nearly killed Carmen.

Carmen almost bled to death and had to be hospitalized, but she hadn't felt prepared to support a baby and she felt appreciative that Engelmann had helped her through such a traumatic experience. She also liked that Engelmann respected her repeated rejection when he attempted to make sexual advances. After all of this, Common felt like she owed him something and Engelmann preyed on this sense of obligation by roping her in to his budding scheme, she would soon become the first accomplice that Engelmann never had a sexual relationship with.

It helps that Carmen wasn't making a lot of money. When Engelmann had pitched the plot to her by early 1975, she felt enticed by the opportunity to make fast cash, and Engelmann made the whole ordeal seem easy.

He told her all they had to do was find her a husband who was a working man with good corporate benefits. He also had to be healthy, but not well connected. They needed a man whose death wouldn't raise questions. So Carmen selected her target.

The suitable man ended up being 26 year old Peter Houn, a telephone lineman. Carmen had dated him in high school, and they'd recently reconnected Engelmann, approved by October of 1975.

The couple was married and like Engelmann had advised, Carmen took out the highest paying life insurance policy on how she could find.

But Engelmann plot was soon complicated. Carmen came to him with second thoughts about killing Helme, but Engelmann wouldn't hear it.

Enraged, he threatened to kill Carmen's brother if she didn't comply. He even hinted that Carmen might end up hurt, too.

So she cowered to his intimidation. And once she agreed to the murder again, Engelmann calmed down. He set the murder date for September 5th, 1976, and told Carmen to take her husband for a nice, long hike. That day, Carmen and Peter Helme arrived at the predetermined trail and walked toward a distant complex of caves miles from the nearest road a few miles in Palmos. Tired and wanted to turn around, but Carmen urged him forward. At one point, they stopped seeing beer cans hanging from the trees along the trail.

Carmen noticed that several cans had bullet holes in them, as though somebody had used them for target practice or setting the range on a rifle scope. How noticed the cans two just seconds before a bullet plowed into his back just below his neck, the shot struck home along the spine between his upper back and neck.

A gunshot directly into the upper thoracic spinal column would have completely paralyzed Tom's body below the Bullets entry point. This would cause him to lose muscle control and the ability to breathe and also sever the cardiac nerves needed for normal heart functioning.

If the extent of the damage was a bullet lodged in his spinal column, harm would have been dead in minutes without intervention. However, because of the power behind the rifle shot, the bullet almost certainly penetrated deeper than his spine.

It's more likely that harm was instantly killed by the bullet going directly into his heart, lungs and or the aorta helme face planted into the dirt, Carmen screened. Moments later, Engelmann emerge from the trees carrying a rifle. He grabbed Carmen and told her to stop screaming, but she was hysterical. Another group of hikers was approaching, so Engelmann fled from the scene. Helmes murder didn't immediately raise suspicion in relation to Engelmann. The scene looked like Carmen and Helme had interrupted a drug deal or some other transient crime.

And all Carmen said was that someone had surprised them and shot her husband. The sheriff declared an open and shut case, and newspapers were more than happy to blame the murder on an unknown assailant. After all, it was just a telephone lineman in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Not much of a story, but the murder would define the rest of Carmen's life. In the weeks and months that followed Helms murder, she sunk into a deep depression and suffered from suicidal ideation.

Witnessing the death of a loved one is extremely difficult, and the added feeling of responsibility for that death is almost unimaginable. An event this awful can trigger post-traumatic stress, and the emotional damage involved in a situation like this could affect all levels of functioning, including sleep patterns, cognition and memory. In addition, and in relation to this, Carmen was experiencing situational depression or an intensely SOCAN mood provoked by an acute. Tragic and highly upsetting set of events, a situational depression is different from a depression that is chronic and responds better to talk therapy than conventional antidepressant drugs, calming suicidal thoughts were a more serious form of depression and would have required medication coupled with talk therapy.

It's likely that Carmen had a pre-existing imbalance of serotonin that pushed her from a situational depression into thoughts of suicide. Having an imbalance in this neurotransmitter predisposes people to rumination and obsessive thinking, which makes any bout of a situational depression far more severe. In essence, her underlying neurochemistry probably made awful circumstances. Even worse, Carmen was understandably unable to cope with her feelings, and this experience affected her to the point that it required hospitalization.

While Carmen was hospitalized for her depression, her family helped care for her. But Engelman spared her no sympathy as far as he was concerned, he and Carmen shared the dark secrets of her abortion and murder. He called their relationship homicidally intimate and Engelmann believe that entitled him to 10000 dollars. Though Helmes Life Insurance had been valued at nearly 75000 dollars, Engelmann was more concerned with getting a smaller cut faster enough to settle his tax bill. So he was persistent with Carmen, but she grew increasingly difficult to reach.

Her brother Nick took over the insurance collection, but it wasn't long before he realized Engelmann knowledge about Helmes policy was more than just suspicious. He remembered that Engelmann had been around when that terrible freak accident at the drag racing strip had killed Eric Frye.

The more Nick thought about it, the more he suspected foul play.

Soon it dawned on him his sister's ex boss wasn't just involved in Carmen's life. By the looks of it, Engelmann seemed to be involved in her husband's death. Nick didn't want to risk his own life saying no to Engelmann cash demands.

So the moment the insurance check came in, he paid Engelmann his cut and his Engelmann grabbed his cash. He quickly confirmed Nick's dark suspicions. Engelmann said your brother in law was a hard man to kill. He had outright admitted to murdering Carmen's husband, Peter Houn, and Gelman's loose lips were likely the result of his growing self-righteousness. His insurance schemes had worked three times now, and he was still free. So he saw himself almost as a demigod, untouchable by the laws of man.

And this hubris would soon lead him to his next plot, one that would up the ante.

Why kill one person at a time for insurance when he could murder three people for their entire life savings?

Next time on medical murders, ego maniac dentist Glenanne Engelmann schemes to kill an entire family. Thanks for listening to medical matters and thanks again to Dr. Kipa for joining me today. Thanks so much, Alistar. For more information on Glenanne Engelmann. Among the many sources we used, we found the book Appointment for Murder by Susan Crane Bucholz. Extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of medical murders and all other originals from podcast for free on Spotify.

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