Listener discretion is advised, this episode features discussions of murder that may be upsetting. We advise extreme caution for listeners. Under 13, the medical field is known for high salaries. Dentistry in particular, is consistently ranked as a top career because of its comfortable income and flexible hours. So one would presume that most dentists don't have side hustles. But Glenanne Engelmann had a pretty significant one. When he wasn't in the office scraping people's teeth. He was plotting homicides for big insurance payouts.

Unfortunately for his victims, tooth repair, while lucrative, simply wasn't exciting enough for Engelmann. And once he started killing, he couldn't surrender the rush of getting away with it. This is medical murders, a Spotify original from past four decades, thousands of medical students have taken the Hippocratic Oath. It boils down to do no harm. But a closer look reveals a phrase much more interesting. I must not play it God. However, some doctors break that oath, choosing to play God with their patients, deciding who lives and who dies each week on medical murders.

We'll investigate those who decided to kill. We'll explore the specifics of how they operate not just on their patients, but within their own minds, examining the psychology and neurology behind heartless medical killers. I'm Alastair Murden and I'm joined by Dr. David Kipa, M.D..

Hello, everyone. I'm Dr. Kipper. I'm looking forward to assisting Alister by providing some medical insight into our final episode of our deranged dentist, Dr. Glenanne Engelmann.

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This is our second episode on Glenanne Engelmann, a Missouri dentist who amassed a body count of seven over a nearly 30 year killing spree.

Last week, we examined how lucrative life insurance payouts Drew Engelmann to a life of crime in the late 1950s and 60s. We also tracked the pattern of his schemes, encouraging a woman to get hitched, then offering to kill the unlucky groom for a profitable outcome. Today, we'll explore Engelmann greediest plot, which eventually led to his downfall. All this and more coming up.

Stay with us. By 1976, St. Louis dentist Lennon and life was defined by mistress's money and murder, the 49 year old doctor had killed three people with the assistance of three different women. He'd also gone through multiple wives and mistresses, but none had hung around for good. And that wasn't for lack of trying. Engelmann seemingly charmed his lovers into subservience, but his erratic outbursts and controlling behaviors turned every romance volatile, and his wives had great reason to suspect that Engelmann was a career criminal.

His successful homicides weren't something he felt a need to hide. Put simply, he wasn't exactly holy matrimony material. After he killed his third victim, Engelmann heavily insinuated what he'd done to his accomplice, his brother. It seemed his self-worth was rooted in pride. His life was exciting. By killing people for their life insurance payouts, perhaps Engelmann could prove he was more than a simple, boring dentist. He likely believed he was a cunning and ruthless man and wanted everyone in his life to see him this way.

Unfortunately, while he might have been a charismatic villain, Engelmann wasn't necessarily a good dentist or businessman. His dental practice was constantly in debt to its vendors. He also hadn't paid his taxes in years. So the Internal Revenue Service began hounding him in the mid 70s. Under mounting financial pressure, Engelman turned to a familiar plan. He convinced his mistress at the time, Barbara, to marry a stable, middle class working man and then buy plenty of life insurance on her new husband.

The scheme had worked three times before, and he expected it would work again. Of course, Engelmann hadn't yet realized that this next plan would cost more lives than any of his others. He was only out for one victim as the plots materialized in his mind. Still, this time, he decided to seek help with the homicide itself, and he turned to a jack of all trades, fittingly named Robert Handy, known by those close to him as Bob.

Throughout the spring of 1976, Handy did odd jobs for Engelmann around his dental office. They often went out to lunch together and Engelmann boasted about the people he killed. Somehow Handy wasn't turned off. Instead, he seemed intrigued. So when Engelmann asked him to help kill Barbara's husband for a cut of the life insurance payout, Handy didn't think twice. But the initial plan to kill Barbara's well insured Beau would soon grow more complex. The man was an oil refinery worker named Ron Goswell, and while his work and personal life insurance policies made him worth a significant sum, there was far more wealth attached to his name.

In May 1976, not long after her marriage to Ron, Barbara told Engelmann Ron's parents a pretty wealthy people. Barbara wasn't kidding. Ron's parents, Venita and Arthur Goswell, found great success running a small town farm.

Years of hard labor had earned them a life savings worth over half a million dollars.

In 1977, when Barbara revealed this to Engelmann, he saw an opportunity. If Ron's parents died, Ron would receive an inheritance. Then when Ron died, Barbara would inherit that money and Ron's life insurance. The plan couldn't have been clearer to Glenanne, Engelmann and to his delight, his two henchmen, Barbara and Bob, were on board. So on November 3rd, 1977, Engelmann donned his suit and a pair of gloves, then tucked a 22 caliber pistol and silencer into his pocket.

He got into Handy's car and the two headed north to the Goswell Farm in rural Illinois. Engelmann didn't anticipate a small town farmer would have trepidation about letting a stranger inside his home, especially one who looked as normal as Engelmann did. His alias that he was from the Farm Bureau would help assuage any suspicion. And just as Engelmann suspected, Arthur Goswell invited him into his home without pause. Moments later, Engelmann pulled out his pistol and a rope. He told the couple, If you lie down quietly so I can tie your hands, I won't have to hurt you.

Sadly, Engelmann was lying as soon as Vernita and Arthur laid down on the kitchen floor, Engelmann screwed the silencer onto the pistol. Then he put the gun to 55 year old Vernita, his head, and fired three times. And this was an intensely violent way to go. When someone gets shot in the head, the bullet punctures the skull and lodges in or travels through the brain tissue. The bullet also often carries pieces of bone from the initial entry wound, which leads to even more tissue damage.

The main cause of death from a gunshot to the head is usually blood loss, which occurs when the bullet hits and destroys crucial blood vessels. Each shot increases the already strong likelihood of death and causes more irreversible destruction. Inside the brain, there are structures that control our respiration, blood circulation and everything else that keeps the body functioning. If these structures become severely physically compromised or completely lose their blood supply, we can't survive. Because Fernado experienced such massive brain trauma, she died instantly.

After Vernita Engelmann moved to her 71 year old husband, Arthur, in his excitement, Engelmann only shot Arthur once before turning his attention to staging the crime scene. He intended to make the murders look like a botched home invasion. He tossed the house but neglected to take some of the valuable cash and jewelry in the goose wells bedroom. He left Vernita and Arthur where they lay and avoided stepping in the spreading pools of blood. Then he raced back to Handey, waiting in the car down the road.

As Engelmann and Handey sped back towards St. Louis, Engelmann boasted about how easy the murders had been. He said it went so smooth I showed them the rope they just laid right down for me. When I told them to putting their heads down for the gun, it was that easy. Engelmann might have been less happy if he'd known what was happening back at the Goswell residence, Arthur was still moving and he was heading for the phone to call 911.

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It's unlikely that someone who sustained a gunshot wound to the head will live very long. But it can happen if a bullet doesn't damage or destroy any areas of control, respiration or heart function. The victim can actually stay alive for a while. However, if there's no intervention, the swelling and blood clots caused by bleeding can eventually obstruct blood flow and put pressure on tissue and important components of the brain, causing death. Based on the fact that Arthur could still move and speak.

I guess it Engelmann shot him in the back of the head with the bullet traveling upwards at a 45 degree angle and sparing the frontal lobe. I say his frontal lobe was likely spared because this part of the brain is responsible for motor function, language and cognitive ability.

This would explain his ability to move towards a phone and his intention to call the police.

Arthur managed to dial 911 one and an ambulance was dispatched due to his head wound and the copious amounts of blood running down his face. Arthur couldn't see anything. Still, he managed to drag himself up into a chair where he sat and waited. He drifted in and out of consciousness. And when the paramedics arrived, he managed to mumble just a few words.

One of them was the word two. In fact, Arthur repeated the words several times right up to his final minutes. Sadly, Arthur died in the hospital that night. That day, the police broke the news about Venita and Arthur's gruesome slaying to their son, Ron, and his wife, Barbara. In response, Barbara put on a loud, sobbing show of emotion. She kept repeating specific facts about the last time she'd seen them more visibly affected than anyone else in the goose, well, family.

She was also quick to repeat her whereabouts on the day the goose wells were killed. Behaviour an innocent person wouldn't feel the need for the police were mildly suspicious, but couldn't pursue it because they couldn't find any concrete evidence about the murder. They only knew that whoever had killed Vernita and Arthur Goswell had used the same gun on each.

After months of fruitless investigation, the police finally chalked up the murder case to a botched home invasion. Ron claimed his inheritance a year later, and Goldman's plan was working perfectly. But it wasn't done just yet.

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This was to be his sixth and would mark the final move of his most complex scheme. Yet the mere thought put Engelmann in a particularly Carneal mood at the time he was having an affair with Barbara, the woman responsible for luring in his latest victim, her now husband, Ron. He also had an ongoing relationship with his third ex-wife, Ruth. Though they'd only been married for a brief time, Ruth had uncovered Engelmann crimes while she divorced him as quickly as she could.

She wasn't able to stay away forever. Just to be clear, Ruth is a different woman than his first wife, Ruthie, who helped Engelmann killed James Bullock. And though and Gilman's latest wife uncovered his cheating, he didn't care enough to stop. As far as Engelmann was concerned, he was finally getting everything he wanted money, respect and control to assert power. Engelmann frequently reminded Barbara Ruth and Bob Handy that he and they were homicidally intimate. To him, that was a deeper bond than any found in family, friendship or finances still.

And Goldman's fellowship didn't end at secret keeping. He liked to buy extravagant gifts and dinners for the people in his life, which may have also served as incentives for them to stick around.

But while he may have kept friends this way, frivolous gifts weren't exactly helpful for his debts. The financial strain only further expedited his murder plot.

In 1979, 33 year old Ron Goswell, Barbara's husband, had finally received his share of his parent's estate. Nearly 18 months had passed since Glenanne. Engelmann had murdered the elder goose wells, but no members of law enforcement suspected his involvement. Still, Engelmann decided to recruit's his friend Handey to help him with his next kill. Last time, Handey had just been the getaway driver. Now Engelmann was asking a whole lot more. The plan was to unfold on March 31st, 1979.

That evening, Engelmann and Handey parked in the lot near the gooseflesh farm, where Barbara picked them up and took them to the house she shared with her husband when they arrived. Barbara let them into the garage, where they talked for nearly an hour, firmly committing their alibis to memory. Finally, Barbara went back inside and the two men waited for Ron to come home. From his shift at the nearby oil refinery, Engelmann was excited and talkative. Overexplaining The plans are handy for the tenth time.

Handey nodded along, listening to Engelmann every word until they heard the crunch of gravel outside.

A few minutes before 11 p.m., a pair of headlights illuminated the garage as Ron turned his vintage Chevy Camaro into the gravel driveway, Engelmann and Handey got into position and held his 38 pistol in one hand and a small sledgehammer in the other as Ron raised the garage door to park his car inside and he stepped back so Engelmann could take his shot.

As soon as Ron's face appeared, the dentist took aim, issuing a vulgar threat. Engelmann pulled the trigger and then half a second later swung the hammer at Ron's head. As Ron fell with a bullet in his chest, the hammer cracked his skull.

And either could have resulted in his abrupt demise for a swift death to come from that initial gunshot to the chest, the bullet probably would have had to hit Ron's aorta or heart if the bullet hit Ron's aorta, which we know from last week's episode, is the body's largest artery running from the chest to groin. He would have died very quickly from tremendous internal bleeding. If a bullet damaged or punctured Ron's heart, death would occur almost instantly from massive internal bleeding and from organ failure due to a lack of blood circulation.

The sledgehammer angle continues to finish. The job could also have ultimately been the deadly weapon in this equation here.

Death would have been caused by a traumatic brain injury resulting from blunt force trauma, which is injury caused by a forceful, non penetrating impact between the body and a dull object. We all know how heavy a sledgehammer is, and being on the receiving end of one can't ever be pretty. The blow runs sustained, which was heavy enough to fracture at skull, probably cause severe tissue damage and bleeding in his brain. As we've learned from the first part of our story in discussing Eric Treis death, brain hemorrhages are very dangerous and can be lethal if severe.

The brain is the body's computer or command center, if his vital structures are destroyed or damaged and pressurized enough by internal bleeding, respiratory and circulatory function halts, causing death, whatever the exact cause of death was, his injuries must have been extreme as Ron was dead in seconds. The gruesome murder left quite the mess, but Engelmann and Handey were quick to clean up the scene, they picked up Ron's body and shoved it in the back of his own Camaro.

The body was bleeding so heavily that Engelmann told Barbara to get some towels.

She ran inside and grabbed a stack of clean, fluffy bathhouse. Engelmann stuffed several around Ron's broken skull. Barbara used the rest to wipe down the pool of blood that adorned the garage floor. Then Engelmann got behind the wheel of the Camaro. After dropping, Handey offered his car. Engelmann led the way into St. Louis, where they would dump their victim. Engelman parks the Camaro with Ron's corpse in a parking lot near a liquor store. The neighborhood was a notorious red light district with few street lights and even fewer police.

Engelmann knew that this would delay the eventual discovery of Ron's body while also throwing off the investigation. Engelman got into Handy's car and they drove away under the cover of night. Engelmann smiled to himself. His plan was complete, like he planned. It took five days for Ron's body to be discovered when police jimmied the lock on the Camaro and opened the door. The smell of rotting flesh was horrendous. Ron's body had begun to decompose.

Let's break this down, the process of decomposition starts almost immediately after death and kicks off with a phase known as a toplessness where the body essentially releases enzymes that start breaking down its own tissue. At first glance, Rocko's, while, was likely unrecognizable after five days the decomposition process, it changes facial features. This indicates that his body was in the second phase of decomposition, known as bloat in temperate conditions. It usually takes a few days to a week for blood to set in.

However, given that Ron's corpse was left in the trunk of a car for five days in the spring heat, the body was probably in the latter stages of bloat. Bloat begins as microorganisms digest tissue in the gut and start to secrete gases. The pressure from this gas causes facial features to swell, bulge and completely distort. Chemical compounds are also released during bloat to cause skin discoloration and the breakdown of more cells in tissue. This continued cellular breakdown causes the skin to loosen and seemingly slip off the body.

In addition to the optics, it makes sense that the officers noticed a horrible smell. Not only are the gases released by microorganisms in the gut for the body also secretes offense's smelling fluid as a gastrointestinal tract is chemically broken down. The byproduct is this awful smelling liquid known as purge fluid. During bloat, the gases in the intestines create pressure and push this purge fluid out of the nose and mouth. All of this seems to relate to what was witnessed and experienced at the scene.

Ron's corpse was bloated and stank horribly because of this, it would have initially been really difficult to identify the body. But police detective soon turned to different hints of identification, the clothes and the Camaro, they were able to determine that the victim had been Ron Goswell, whose parents had strangely been murdered less than two years prior. But the police didn't suspect the murders had been connected. Instead, they looked at the cigarettes, coins and condoms they'd found on him and came to another conclusion.

They believed Ron had traveled to East St. Louis, likely to hire a sex worker. Unfortunately, he crossed the wrong person or been mugged and ended up dead. However, one piece of evidence didn't seem to fit that narrative. A crime lab technician noted that the towels used to absorb his blood were pretty high end. Most people living in that part of town wouldn't have had them. But the peculiar detail wasn't enough to prompt deeper investigation.

The case was closed and Barbara was due to receive a 190000 dollar life insurance payout.

In addition, she would inherit Ron's estate, which included his own recent inheritance from his parents. All told, Barbara could potentially net over 500000 dollars nearly one point eight million dollars in modern currency. It was by far the biggest payout in Goldman's murder schemes had ever made. Little did Engelmann know he would never see any of the cash. Just like in the Peter Hale murder, the insurance company was hesitant to pay out such a significant claim without more scrutiny.

So Barbara gave Engelmann 4000 dollars of her own money while they waited. It was enough to settle his tax bill, but not nearly enough to erase the debt from his dental practice nor pay off Bob Handy Handy was irritated, but he kept his mouth shut. He'd learned long ago that he didn't want to end up on England's bad side, and it was a good call because despite the coming influx of cash, Engelmann wasn't feeling very charitable.

He'd been slammed with yet another financial burden. The owner of the dental facility that processed his X-rays, dental impressions and dentures decided to take Engelmann to court.

Put plainly, 59 year old Sophie Parreira wasn't convinced Engelmann would ever pay her the nearly 15000 dollars he owed on his own. She hoped legal proceedings would ensure that justice was served. Unfortunately, the lawsuit only stokes the fires of Engelmann Rage. He felt that Sophie was a shrew who would serve him best if she were dead. So Engelmann turned to his functional knowledge of explosives to rid himself of the debt. And Sophi.

A few minutes before 5pm on January 14th, 1980, Sophie Perreira left her dental laboratory for the night. Her red Ford Pinto was parked in the lot behind the building out of sight from the street. As Sophie climbed in her car, she didn't notice the small device tucked under her front tire.

It was a trigger plate connected to a wire which ran all the way to a bundle of dynamite under the driver's seat. As Sophie put the car in gear and rolled over the plate, the bomb exploded.

Glenanne Engelmann had killed his seventh victim.

Up next, Sophie's murder lands an investigator hot on Glenanne and Gelman's tracks.

Now back to the story.

When 52 year old Glenanne Engelmann didn't want to pay his fifteen thousand dollar debt to Sophie Parreira, he did what any murderer might he offered her, though she wouldn't have suffered long. Sophie's violent car bomb murder told investigators her killer held a grudge and soon they would come to learn about the lawsuit Sophie had taken out against Engelmann.

Sophie's adult son and several of her friends and neighbors immediately identified Engelmann as a suspect. It was obvious Engelmann had the most to gain from her death. So in the days following the bombing, the St. Louis police and the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms brought Engelmann in for questioning. Engelmann refused to submit to a polygraph or to tests of his hands and clothes for explosive residue, but he didn't refuse to talk. In fact, Engelmann wouldn't shut up for nearly three hours when agents questioned him.

He railed against Sophie but denied any involvement in her death. He claimed he would have won the lawsuit and even said, I'm not sorry, she's dead. She got what she deserved. His resentment for Sophie was shocking, but it was. Tonight, a confession that he killed her, Engelmann even had an alibi since he was in his dental office with patients the entire day of the bombing. So the investigators had to let him go. But one of the lead detectives for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, William McGarvie, refused to accept that Engelmann wasn't involved.

While Newman's alibi proved that he had not planted the bomb, it was still quite possible that he planned it. Now, McGarvie didn't suspect he'd get an admission from Engelmann, but he imagined the people in Engelmann Circle might reveal quite a bit about him. So McGarvie got in touch with Engelmann ex-wife and sometimes lover Ruth, despite their fiery, dynamic and ongoing relationship. Ruth knew about Engelmann murderous history and feared one day she'd end up like his victims. This concern was enough to convince her to talk.

When McGarvie reached out on January 19th, just five days after the bombing, Ruth exposed Engelmann and she didn't just leave it at Sophi Parreira. She told McGarvie about each person Engelmann was responsible for killing at least the ones she knew about. Her detailed statement about Engelmann deadly career turned out to be 56 pages long, but McGarvie couldn't end his search. At Ruth's statement, she needed to prove her claims with some hard evidence. So Ruth agreed to wear a wire over the next several weeks.

Any time Engelmann came over to Ruth's house, McGarvie and his team were listening in a surveillance van up the street. Unfortunately, Engelmann was paranoid about Wire-Tapping. He talked and talked, and Ruth even went so far as to ask pointed questions about his previous killings. But Engelmann never said anything specific about his crimes. One night, Ruth pushed him a little too hard when she asked why he had no compunction about killing people, and Gelman's mood suddenly turned sour.

He glared at his ex-wife and said, When you start accusing me of killing people, I start wondering if I'm in a bugged room. You are no longer my wife. You can testify. That makes me a little bit edgy. You dwell on that for a little while. Then Engelmann left, the implication was clear Engelmann had no problem killing Ruth to keep her quiet, McGarvie wasn't willing to put Ruth in danger, even though she wanted to keep wearing the hidden microphone.

At this point, Ruth wanted Engelmann in prison where he couldn't hurt anyone ever again.

McGarvie had the same goal, but now he had to find a different way to achieve it. So he turned to the newspapers.

Several reporters had been on the story about the car bombing and uncovered the lawsuits about Engelmann.

But only one newspaper, The Globe, looked into Engelmann past when they researched Peter Hulme's murder.

They noted the suspicious circumstances behind the life insurance policy taken out by his wife Carmen, shortly before his death, as well as her connection to Engelmann reports has brought this information to McGarvie, who, after the wiretapping effort had hit a snag encourage them to publish a piece about it. He hoped that once Engelmann involvement with Helms death hit the public, Engelmann would be shaken enough to openly discuss his murders with Ruth and to McGarvie relief.

He was right. A few days after the story hit the papers, Engelmann and Ruth went out for pizza and Ruth or The Wire.

Engelmann talked about his past relationships with Carmen and Bob Handey.

He got more and more worked up about his past and said he was tired of the insurance schemes. He just wanted to get back to dentistry.

But these admissions weren't incriminating until Engelmann mentioned that he'd wanted more money after the death of Peter Halime.

When Ruth's secret microphone recorded this confession, McGarvie finally had enough to charge Engelmann with murder. On February 24th, 1980, Glenanne Engelmann was arrested, Bob Handey was arrested the same day, Engelmann couldn't believe it. They were arresting him for a murder he committed four years ago, not the one he'd committed last month. It had taken a long time, but Engelmann was finally caught. He knew immediately Ruth had been the one to betray him. Unfortunately for Engelmann, she wasn't the only one.

Within 24 hours of his arrest and Gillman's other co-conspirators turned on him in exchange for immunity. Helm's wife, Carmen Miranda, and her brother Nick, confessed everything they knew about Engelmann earliest murders. It took a bit longer for Bob Handey to admit his guilt and agree to testify against Engelmann. However, once McGarvie and the prosecutors reminded him that confessing was the only way to save his own skin and he changed his tune. After all, the homicidal dentist never paid him for their last murder.

And Handey new Engelmann friendship wasn't worth a lifetime in prison. With the testimony from all his former accomplices, McGarvie had evidence for the deaths of Peter Haleem and Sophie Parreira. He also had strong circumstantial evidence for Goldman's murders of James Bullock and Eric Frye. In the spring of 1980, Engelmann was put on trial for the murders of Helme and Bharara. The result was two life sentences. But there were still other murders, Engelman has gotten away with Ron Goswell and his parents, his former mistress, Barbara, was still free and living off of her insurance payout.

It took a few more years before McGarvie finally got Bob Handey to tell the story from his prison cell. And by then, any hard evidence was almost impossible to uncover. Almost on July thirty first nineteen eighty four, McGarvie returned to the scene of Wrongest Wells murder. The House no longer belong to Barbara. She'd sold it. Not long after her husband had been killed in the garage. McGarvie brought in the same forensic laboratory technicians who had worked on the Ron Griswold case five years before.

One of them was the same tech who noticed the fluffy towels covering Ron's decomposing corpse. McGarvie needed to prove that Ron had been killed there in his own garage and not killed where his body was found. So the forensic techs went to work using forensic technology. They found old blood stains pooled on the floor and splattered around the garage.

Coroners and forensic pathologist use all kinds of technology to uncover medical clues at a crime scene. One example is a combination of the use of lighting and chemicals to detect hidden bloodstains because blood won't fluoresce under UV light. Like all other bodily fluids, chemicals like Bluestar, Luminol and fluorescence can be sprayed over surfaces suspected of having been wiped clean. This will cause any invisible blood stain to luminesce or glow in the dark and become visible. Forensic technicians and blood stain analysts can also determine a lot by the physical characteristics of the blood at a crime scene, such as its spatter pattern, its distribution and how much blood is present.

In reference to this murder bloodstain, analysts paid special attention to the fact that pooled blood stains were found on site. This indicated that someone bled out profusely and suggested death by severe injury. This was made even more suspicious by the fact that blood was found elsewhere all around the garage. From the looks of things, along with the suspicions surrounding Ron's death, the crime lab tech seemingly discovered evidence of a violent murder.

After the murder, the walls had been painted over, hastily, leaving the edges rough and signs of blood underneath. It was a sloppy, panicked cover up. Barbara was arrested soon after the discovery. She was convicted for her part in the murder of her husband and sentenced to 50 years in prison. And Engelmann received three additional life sentences. The homicidal career of dentist Glenanne Engelmann was over. He spent the rest of his life in prison ignoring interview requests and keeping to himself.

And in 1999, 72 year old Engelmann died from complications due to diabetes. Over the course of nearly 30 years, Engelmann killed at least seven people for a little less than 50000 dollars. He'd also avoided paying the nearly fifteen thousand dollars he owed Sophi Bharara. All told, Engelmann murderous career had amounted to less than 65 grand. McGarvie, the prosecutors and the press were baffled. Engelmann could have made more money by simply focusing on dentistry. So why kill anyone?

Engelmann provided the answer himself. He only ever directly confessed to murder once for the deaths of the Goswell family when he was interviewed by a prosecutor in jail, Engelmann said. I like to kill. Not everyone has the strength to kill.

It sets a man apart from his fellow man if he can kill.

Those are chilling words. This was a guy who clearly had severe mental illness. He appeared to be a true narcissist, completely devoid of empathy. He craved control and excitement no matter the costs. Maybe his career as a dentist gave him some elevated sense of social status. However, dentistry was very peripheral to Israel.

Drive and motivation in life. It's surprising to me how someone like this could even have the focus, compliance and dedication to become a dentist, given how powerful his dark desires and impulses were.

Despite Engelmann horrific story, I would say that 99 percent of the time you have nothing to worry about when your dentist drills into your mouth or puts you under.

Though the rest of the world saw him as a mild mannered conservative dentist, Glenanne Engelmann believed he was a superior model of masculinity. He believed he was smarter than anyone else he knew and committed multiple murders simply to prove he had the cunning to not get caught. But despite the fact that he'd evaded police for almost 30 years, in the end, Engelmann was just a failed dentist who didn't get away with murder.

Thanks for listening to medical murders and thanks again to Dr. Kipa for joining me today. Thanks very much. For more information on Glenanne Engelmann, among the many sources we used, we found the book Appointment for Murder by Susan Crane Bucholz. Extremely helpful to our research. You can find all episodes of medical murders and all other Spotify originals from podcast for free on Spotify.

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