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Welcome to today's edition of the Rush Limbaugh Show podcast, holy cow, it just got real, didn't it? Welcome to The Rush Limbaugh Show. I am not decidedly not Rush Limbaugh. It is an honor to be here. I'm Derek Hunter.

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And wow, you know, you hear that song your whole life basically while driving in a car, sitting there at home, whatever.

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And to hear on this end of it is is as scary as I thought it would be.

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If it sounds as though I'm nervous, it's only because I am. Let me just take a second before we get into anything else. And there is a lot to get into.

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Wholly Frank Tanana, it is a busy news day, even though it is should be a slow news day. But that's just not the way the last four years have worked. I've got to pay homage to Rush just because well, as you heard Johnny Donovan, John Johnny Donovan tell in the open, I have my own radio show, which again, is really cool. I want to I want that to be a ringtone.

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I have my own radio show on CIBM in Baltimore and the whole genre. Everybody who has a radio show pretty much owes it to Rush. He created it. You'd sit there and you say, well, how do you pay tribute to Rush? What do you say to a guy? He's the Henry Ford of talk radio. He created the industry. And for him to say, here are the keys to the to the Camaro, don't scratch it is a thrill and terrifying simultaneously.

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So thank you to Rush. We can't replace him. We can only fill his chair for a day or two. And he'll be back here on Monday to undo any damage that I do throughout the next three hours. The number to be a part of the show, as always, again, saying this really cool 802 eight two two eight eight two and it's open line Friday. So pretty much anything goes. Like I said, we've got a lot to get to today.

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And you want to chime in on that? Absolutely. You're welcome to or anything else if you are.

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Out there doing the Black Friday a little bit about me, I grew up in Detroit, so if you watched football yesterday, I apologize on behalf of the city man, I always say that is a joke because it's funny because it's true. I grew up in Detroit. We don't have a professional football team.

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We just have the Lions and. Yeah, so sorry, America about that. Well, unless you're a fan of the Texans, which who's a fan of the Texans.

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So we ruined your early dinner and the late game wasn't much more exciting, but yeah, I grew up in Detroit. I moved to Baltimore and went to Wayne State University in downtown Detroit, grew up in a small town called Redford that nobody's ever heard of. It's easier just say to Detroit because it's six blocks outside of Detroit, off of Eight Mile Road. So, yeah, I mean, Eminem didn't know each other at all, but he actually grew up on the other side of Eight Mile, which is the good side of Eight Mile.

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I grew up on the bad side of Eight Mile, but I majored in theater at first, which is scary. Don't let your children grow up to major in theater ever. After a year of that, I decided that I couldn't stand the phony people and the girls were good looking, but the people were so phony that I went into politics. Yeah. So again, not the brightest bulb on the tree, but it worked out. Got a job at the Heritage Foundation.

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Pretty much done everything.

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You just I've had more jobs than most families have had. Last count, I think it was 73 jobs. This might be 74 filling in for Rush once. So yeah, if you name it, I was a maid for an hour. Roofing was one thing I did for a long time.

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If it if you had to shower after it, I had that job and if you had and then eventually I'd learn to move into showering before a job. When I did kind of the grungier nobody era really nobody showered. But I moved to Baltimore, I worked in Washington, D.C., been involved in politics and news ever since. And here I am. I write columns three to three days a week, four days a week for Townhall.com. And I host a podcast called, appropriately enough, the Derek Hunter podcast, which, you know, they had the name first.

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So it worked out for me.

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It is Black Friday. It's weird being here. It's weird being anywhere on Black Friday because I used to be one of those people.

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My my shopping year revolved around Black Friday. I absolutely loved it. I was my trampoline shoes and go out and I knock people over 50 bucks off a TV elbow to the throat, whatever it took. And this year it's off.

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It's online and there are some stores open. I saw some pictures of some kids who probably never kiss a girl sleeping outside a GameStop to buy a PlayStation five. But I don't judge them. That's not judging. That's just being poignant. They got to learn sooner or later.

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But that's it. You know, it's just a different world. Thanks to Covenant and boy, howdy. Do we have some news on covid as well? But I want to stick to the Thanksgiving theme as hypocritical. Politicians jet off around the country and sit there and say, don't you dare go visit family. Now I'm hopping on this plane.

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I got to get out of here because I'm going over to grandma's house. It really was one of those days for absolute total hypocrisy.

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I mean, it was so the season for hypocrisy. That's kind of what the left is. It's hypocrisy.

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There's a great book called Do As I Say, Not As I Do Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy by Peter Schweitzer. Long before he became wildly famous over Clinton Cash and the book on the Bidens and everything, he wrote this. And it's probably 15 20 stories in it about various left wing political figures who are like, Oh, preach, I'd love to preach. Boy, how did they love to preach, but they don't actually live that way.

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For example, he's got stories about Michael Moore union busting on his old TV show, TV Nation. Kind of a big deal, your big pro union guy, but you threatened to fire people if they join a union when they work on your TV show. The Kennedys no bigger proponent of the inheritance tax and their money is all in tax free shelters and it's handed down generation to generation without paying any taxes on it because they're above the law.

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The laws are for the little people. So hypocrisy is nothing new for the left. Gavin Newsom out in California going, let's let's have a party.

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Let's go to the most expensive restaurant in the country and sit inside and we'll have a blast and the bar tab, something like 1500.

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I don't even know how.

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And well, speaking of the Kennedys, they could probably do it, but otherwise, I don't know how anybody can get a 15000 dollar bar tab. How do you do that? Give me your most expensive bottle. I want to throw it against the wall and then keep bringing them until I throw my shoulder out. And Tommy John surgery.

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That's about it. So. There's that out in California than we had Governor Super Mario on steroids up in New York, Andrew Cuomo, don't see your family, don't see your family. Now my mom's coming over.

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You got to go. People said, wait a second, that's not right. So he reluctantly canceled it, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sneaking in there. I wish somebody had been camped out in front of all of these people's houses. The media scolds who sit there and tisk, tisk you that you want to see your family on Thanksgiving, give you those monologues and lectures. I want to see if they had anybody over. Of course, we'd have to have an honest media for that.

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So that wasn't likely to happen anyway. Then we have the mayor, Mayor Michael Hancock of Denver.

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He took it to a new level, which is, you know, usually the coastal guys are the ones who are really stepping in it.

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But Michael Hancock said, I got this, hold my beer. He told everybody, stay home, don't see family. Don't do this, don't do that. You've got to do this, that. And the other thing, it's for the safety of the people of Denver.

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It's for the safety of people of Colorado. Then after issuing a tweet saying just as much, he hopped on a plane and flew off to see his mom in Mississippi.

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But. Huh, and then, of course, he issued the the apology, I fully acknowledge that I have urged everyone to stay at home and avoid unnecessary travel. I have shared how my family cancelled our plans for our traditional multi household Thanksgiving celebration. What I did not share but should have is that my wife, my daughter and my daughter have been in Mississippi where my daughter recently took a job. And as the holiday approaches, I decided it would be safer for me to travel to see them than to have two family members travel back to Denver.

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Wouldn't it have been safer?

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And you've been telling everybody pretty much stick in place. Yes, but rules for the and not for me.

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I recognize that my decision has disappointed many who believe it would have been better to spend Thanksgiving alone. Yeah, like you'd been lecturing everybody else exactly like that.

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As a public official whose conduct is rightly scrutinized for the messages it sends to others, I apologize to the residents of Denver who see my decision as conflicting with the guidance to stay at home for all but essential travel. Are there residents of Denver who see his conflicting, their decision conflicting with the not conflicting with it?

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Like, well, this is exactly in line with with his order to stay home, him going somewhere.

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I made my decision as a husband and a father. And for those who are angry and disappointed, I humbly ask you to forgive decisions that are born of my heart and not of my head. By the way, if you leave your house, I'll give you a fifteen hundred dollar fine and up to thirty days in prison. He didn't say that last part, but he wanted to hypocrisy Thanksgiving. This is the problem. This is the left hypocrisy, anger, resentment division.

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This is who they are as people, as human beings. It's very weird to watch these people talk about tolerance when they are the least tolerant people on Earth. Of course, it was a day that ends in Y, so there were riots across the country that was burning, that was smashing. There was statues being torn down. New York Post has this story. A. Thanksgiving protests erupt in several U.S. states overnight and they go, of course, the first place, they say, is Portland.

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That's what happens. It's oh, it's a day that ends and why the sun is up. Let's go burn something. There's a statue. Let's tear it down. Who's it up? Doesn't matter.

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It's rip it down. Post reports vandals went on a. Thanksgiving, an anticolonial crime sprees in several U.S. states, smashing and defacing storefronts and toppling a war memorial overnight Thursday. What don't you feel safer now and that feel great? I love that because it was a.. Thanksgiving. Now, really, the only thing that was a.. Thanksgiving is in addition to their F the police and F Donald Trump's spray painting. And the USA is terrible.

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And antipolice spray painting is they also threw in a blank Thanksgiving, too.

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I guess it's nice they're mixing their bagua doing something new.

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At least 10 businesses in Portland, including a Chase Bank and a New Seasons market along Hawthorne Boulevard, had windows broken and messages like land back 16, 37 and F Thanksgiving spray painted along their walls, according to local reports. Again, they just ruined Thanksgiving. The rest of those messages are the exact same as they always are. That's who the left is. That's where the left is.

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They talk about the Democrats. I mean, for God's sakes, we just had a campaign where they're like, we're going to bring the country together. We've got to bring the country together.

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Then you sit there and you listen to the rest of what they say. We will unite the country with those racist, sexist, homophobe, Islamophobic xenophobe things.

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What why would we want to unite with you?

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What are you offering in return that you will continue to call us horrible things that are lies that you you'll only smack us on every other Tuesday, Taco Tuesday and you know, the back of the hand Thursday, like, what do we why would we unite with you?

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How does somebody unite with you when the fact is they don't want to unite with you, they don't want to bring this country together.

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They despise this country, as evidenced by when pretty much everything out of their mouths except for maybe out of Joe Biden's mouth, because it's hard to tell. He can't really string together a coherent sentence, but figure somewhere in that word salad he tosses is the hatred of the country that the left fully, thoroughly embraces. But I.

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I just want to point out something, because you hear this all the time from the left. This country is fundamentally racist. It's fundamentally it's founded on racism. My God, the 619 project, they just went absolutely nuts. So I want to give you something. I've never done this before, but I've never spoken to 25 million people before.

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And I want to read just I'm actually just going to crib notes from my book Outrage, Inc., How the Liberal Mob Ruined Science Journalism in Hollywood.

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To give you an counterargument to all of these leftists who talk about how God awful racist this country is, it's not to say racism doesn't exist. It absolutely does.

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And a nation of 330 million people, you're going to get every flavor person and every problem on the planet.

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But to give it some perspective, I think that's wildly, wildly important, the Southern Poverty Law Center, which the left loves to cite, they just they put out a press release like, oh, God, we love the we love the Southern Poverty Law Center because all they do is attack conservatives and label them racists, which gives leftist media cover to say it's not us saying it. It's the Southern Poverty Law Center.

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They estimate in 2016 that they're between eight and five and 8000 members of the KKK in the country. That that's you know, that's a wide range average of about 6500. It's the granddaddy of the racist organizations, Democratic militant wing back in the day. But it's important to note that the granddaddy that in 1916 had four million members, I believe.

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A century later had 6500 on average to give that more perspective, that same year, 2016, the WNBA, the least popular professional sport, you can call it, that they celebrated that year as a wild success.

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Because their average attendance at a home game, which I guess every game is a home game to somebody was 7000, 655.

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That means, on average, Southern Poverty Law Center says about 6500 members of the KKK in the country and the WNBA had 1155 more people at an average home game of the least popular sport on the planet Earth.

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Whereas a century earlier, there were millions of members of the Klan, if that is not that's not something we're celebrating, then nothing is worth celebrating. But to hear the left tell it, it's gotten worse. It's way worse. How did they do that?

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Well, they created things like micro aggressions and things like that, but things that are so, so subtle that you don't even know you're being racist and the person you're being racist who doesn't even know you're being racist to them. But some impartial woak, third party observer can sit there and fold their arms.

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And this can go. You really shouldn't have said it that way. It's too cis normative and hetero normative or whatever terms they make up.

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So what I'm basically boiling it down to is this Thanksgiving, be thankful for this country, be thankful for liberals exposing themselves so freely and willy nilly, but never, ever lose sight of the truth that this country is the greatest on the history of the planet and amazingly, the only country in the world where where you are born, the station in which you are born has nothing to do with where you end up in life.

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I, the son of an auto worker and a disabled mother, neither of whom graduated high school, are sitting behind the Golden EIB microphone talking to 25 million people. If I can do that. You can do anything. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh program. I'm Derek Hunter, sitting in the big chair behind the golden EIB microphone, still shaking like a leaf. The number to be a part of it on Open Line Friday, which is another cool thing, is 802 eight to two eight eight two.

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I promise we'll get to your phone calls this hour because it is open line Friday, your precious show. I'm just keeping the seat warm.

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But just a couple more things on this division left, and it'll be a theme that I'll return to because it's something that absolutely drives me nuts constantly and we're all one.

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But we have to look at you this way.

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They define you as by your gender, by your skin color, by your ethnicity, by whatever, whatever you decide.

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They find new and creative ways to divide people up. We used to be a melting pot. Remember that? Now we're a series of chafing dishes and they just manipulate everybody around because it's much easier divide and conquer. It's there's no saying unite and conquer.

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That wouldn't work.

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So I'm looking at the news the other day and I see this thing, Multicultural News Network and like, what are you talking about? With a multicultural news network television channel focusing on diverse content and voices will launch in the second half of 2021.

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Well, that's a long telegraphed punch, but they say they'll produce daily newscasts.

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It's going to be a cable channel, apparently, quote, serving multicultural communities, including but not limited to blacks, Hispanics, LGBTQ communities, Asians, Native Americans, people of middle and people of Middle Eastern descent who sit there and you see this. I don't really care. Generally, it's just so weird about the bifurcation of society by the left as they're calling for unity and it's across the media. NBC News has NBC News black, NBC News, Hispanic Fox News has NBC News Hispanic as if like the news is different based upon what your ancestors did centuries ago, where they came from mine started off in Poland and pretty much would go as far west as they could stop, mate, send their kids west.

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So I'm pretty much everything over there, but none of it matters who I am. What my parents did to me and thank God they did it to me matters to who I am. It should be the same to you.

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So they just keep on dividing. I got a lot more to say, including something that's, I think, pretty damn funny.

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Coming up after after news, they're kind of filling in for Rush Limbaugh. I am Eric Garner.

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This is the Rush Limbaugh program. It's open line Friday, 802 202 eight to the telephone number from anywhere in this great country. And it really is great.

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And before we get to your phone calls on Open Line Friday, I want to I promised I teased that I'd give you a little funny story about my thoughts on this garbage of ethnic identity and nationalism and not nationalism, but the division of the left.

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I find it exemplified in what used to be one of those old. It's not old.

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It's like a year old ads for the spit in the tube and find out your your DNA history, you know, like, oh, you swab the cotton in there so I can covid test. Except you miss your nose and you go in your mouth and they'll tell you hear this much of that one and this much of the other one. And the one guy in the commercial where he's sitting there like where I grew up, we were all German.

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We dance around and later and eat Wienerschnitzel and invade Poland and Czechoslovakia and hate France. And then and I did the spit in the tube and I found out that I'm Scottish. So now I eat haggis and and wear kilts like it's your identity.

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That's kind of the problem is kind of liberalism where you're just like that's that's who you are. It's it's not who you are decidedly not who you are. Who you are is who you are. What you do is who you are.

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Your acts, your experience are the culmination of all of those things are who you are and the bad mistakes you've made and you've learned from them. Hopefully the good things you've done and you learn from them hopefully. Sadly, that's what I really despise about liberalism, is that it is so desperate to absolve people of any responsibility for their bad decisions to insulate people from their bad decisions. So what do you get with that? You subsidize something, you get more of it.

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You insulate people from the consequences of their actions. What happens? You get more of it? Oh, I can go out and I can take 250000 dollars out and student loans to go to Smith College and major in gender Greven Studies. And wow, there's not a whole lot of jobs in that field. Starting salaries, 22000 dollars. What am I going to do with this 250000 dollars in debt?

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And then in comes big government. Don't worry. Here's a lollipop patch on the head. We'll absolve you of it. It's not your fault. How could you have possibly done a simple Google search to find out the starting salaries of your field of study? Who would have ever thought that going to one of the most expensive colleges in the country was a bad idea for an unmarketable degree? We've got you.

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And then you start seeing people. Looking to government to take care of them, it's insidious, it's subtle, it's not all that's one of the more obvious ways. But the school lunch program now, the school breakfast program. Oh, so kids learn what the government feeds them in the morning and in the afternoon, and they'll stay open in the summer and they'll feed them then. And you sit there and you think logically when what is food stamps for?

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What is welfare for? We're giving parents money to feed these kids and how is these kids? And then we're saying, but don't worry, we'll do it for you. So what does that mean? The mom sleeps in. The dad sleeps in, but he could get up and make a bowl oatmeal. You can, you know, make an egg. You can make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. I had, you know, brown bag lunches every day.

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My mother had one leg. She had her right leg amputated when I was nine. Every day I went to school with a brown bag and had two peanut butter and jelly sandwiches or baloney in barbecue sauce. Don't get me started or something else. And like a hostess treat, one day a week I was allowed to buy lunch.

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That was it wasn't living high on the hog, but I was living. And most importantly, I learned that my parents cared enough to do that for me.

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If it was just go to there, tell them you're free lunch and that's it.

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We probably could we might have qualified, I don't know, there were free lunches, but we weren't going to do that, changed and shaped who I am.

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And that's a hell of a lesson to learn. Rather than suckling the government teat going, don't worry, they'll make breakfast for you at school. Now get out of my room. I'm trying to sleep.

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That doesn't really tell your kid a whole lot good anyway.

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Anyway, let us get to the phones. This is the Rush Limbaugh Show and it is open line Friday 800 202 288. To Scott in Miami, Florida.

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We start with you. Not much nice weather than where I am. Hello, Scott. Welcome The Rush Limbaugh Show.

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Good afternoon, Mr. Hunter. Thank you for taking my call. I want to tell you that after all, Trump lost Biden as president. It doesn't matter if you put Elmer foreigners in the White House. This country has done so. And let me explain what I mean by that. All right. We have 80 million people, 70, 80, 90 million people unemployed. 2020 is going to look like nothing in 2021 comes around. People can't pay their bills, their mortgages.

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Everything is shut down. The stock market is phony. It's overblown. You've got a dollar that's going to become worthless because the Federal Reserve keeps printing up trillions.

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Well, you do have to be wary of the Federal Reserve. You can go on eBay right now. And for like 15 bucks, you can buy a hundred dollars trillion dollar bill from Zimbabwe. That was legal currency at one point. So I take your point on that one.

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I got to take issue with you, though, Scott, on the idea that we're done for we're never going to win.

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Well, let me explain what we've done, sort in the sense that our political leaders have turned out that the American people have tyrannical government when you have a Federal Reserve that is controlled by international Jewish bankers.

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All right, Scott, thank you. I was only a matter of time. It's open line Friday, but yeah, no, this country is not done for this is the United States of America. We can pull our butts together. The problem is that we have to have the will to do it. And Republicans are very good at mouthpieces and saying we got we've got to do this.

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We've got to be fiscally responsible.

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Unfortunately, they're really good at it when they're not in power. The vocalizing it when it comes time to governing.

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That way they become less good.

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But as we have churn and burn in members of Congress, we get more conservatives in there and people who recognize the problems in this country, they're spending.

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And you can't dig your way out of a hole, then, yes, we can get some fiscal sanity.

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It's just a matter of, you know, being on the front deck of the Titanic and seeing the iceberg. Can you make it up to the wheelhouse in time to warn them because that iceberg doesn't swerve and that sooner or later will become seriously problematic? I feel bad for having two daughters, three and a two year old, and we've already spent their money, their kid. They're going to have to have kids to inherit the debt that we're incurring now, not covid is a separate special circumstance.

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It's a once in a century, hopefully fingers crossed thing. So some of the spending is understandable.

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But it's also a great opportunity for conservatives to make a case in liberal states, in blue states to say, look, because the Democrats just want to bail everything out, like we've been spending like drunken sailors for decades.

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Our public sector unions, our pensions are through the roof and we just keep kicking the can and doing accounting gimmicks that if you did it at your Fortune 500 company, you'd be thrown in jail for like Bernie Madoff is, is a piker compared to what the government does in their accounting schemes.

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And then you say, well, Nancy Pelosi wants to bail out the states. It's only fair. It's only right.

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Then you see stories out of California and out of Michigan. Now, these are only two states. This is sort of a new field of study. So I assume there's more where they're paying unemployment benefits to people who have no business being on unemployment. Scott Peterson, for God's sakes, is out in California. He was collecting unemployment benefits in California murders. He's doing life in prison without fear.

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He might have gotten the death penalty, but I think it's life in prison without parole.

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And ABC, NBC four out in California, at least 35000 unemployment claims filed on behalf of California prison inmates, including Scott Peterson, more than a billion dollars in total. They paid at least 140 million in benefits, 258 claims that have been filed for 133 inmates just on death row. And we've got to bail that out. How about you figure out what the hell's going on in your house first?

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OK, then over in Michigan, my home state audit, Michigan may have paid out one point five billion in fraudulent unemployment claims director reportedly said that it was, quote, not a high priority fraud, not a high priority.

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A billion and a half dollars. Well, what is what? How much are they asking for for the bailout? I think they're asking for like four or five billion dollars. Well, right there. I'm all for helping when you can.

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All right. In this circumstance, sure, we probably have to do something for some of the states and localities, but that shouldn't be the a plan. That shouldn't be number one on the bucket list. It should be you get your house in order, somebody coming into your house, a friend, degenerate friend you're at the high school with and go, hey, I need 10 grand. Well, what do you need? 10 grand for it. I had to get a car.

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If I don't get a good car, I'm never going to be able to get a job.

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I don't really want to loan you 10 grand there.

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Jamie, make up a name.

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I don't know.

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And and you finally agree to it, OK? And then the next day, you see Jimmy come up and he's got his new car, but then he's also got a motorcycle and he's, you know, put a new roof on his house and he's he's got some new clothes, you know, like what in the hell, man? Like, well, no, no, I use your money to buy the car. I got I used my money to to buy this other stuff.

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I kind of wanted this stuff for a while. Needed a new roof. I always wanted a motorcycle suddenly go, wait a second, what the hell.

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You spent seven grand on all this other stuff. You borrowed ten grand for me to buy our car making these numbers up. But we can buy Junker. But you get the point.

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Okay, if you want me to help you, you've got to help yourself first. Jimmy, you can come up with seven grand. We can talk about three, something like that.

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Well, California, New York, Michigan. You want billions of dollars from us. You got to convince me. He got to prove to me that you went through your budget line by line and you found every damn nickel that fell between the couch cushions in every office in your capital building that you are squeezing that sucker for dear life and you're taking back everything you possibly can and you're tightening your belt as much as possible. And then we can help you maybe with the rest, we can make you help you close the gap.

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But we're not going to go right off the bat. Just, you know, sit there. How much you want, how much. I mean, just write this. I'm just going to leave the check blank. I'm just going to sign it right there, Uncle Sam. And here you go. Cash it. Cash it at your whim. No, no. Hell no.

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Let's go back to the fund. My mouth does tend to get the best of me, and I. I have you know what? You're right. But we'll go to a break. The number 802 eight two two eight eight two.

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This is Derek Hunter. I'm sitting in unbelievably for Rush Limbaugh. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to The Rush Limbaugh Show. Derek Hunter sitting in. I'm host of the Dare kind of show on CBS and Baltimore, also the Derek Hunter podcast. Wherever I find podcasts are sold for the low, low price of free, it is open line Friday the number 800 202 288000. We go to the phone. Shaun in Buffalo, New York.

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Welcome, Shaun. Hi. How are you doing today? I am nervous but excited.

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A great place to be. Oh yeah. My question, my question is and we went into this earlier about what are we going to do if they also get the Senate?

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I mean, the cheating is an unbelievable, you know, kind of that's why it's like if if Democrats manage to win both Georgia runoffs and the president, President Trump tweeted today that he's heading down there. He does not support this idea, this crackpot idea of boycotting the vote. He's going to go down there and campaign for both Perdue and Lefler, which is great.

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But right now, Mitch McConnell shouldn't be in Georgia. Mitch McConnell should be in West Virginia. He should be sitting in the driveway of the house of Joe Manchin saying, what committee chairmanship do you want? You can have any of them. All of them switch parties. Now, that's what he should be doing. Yeah, that's that that's a good, good idea. You know, I had a thought the other day and I was, you know, this society is a hyphenated society.

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Mm hmm. And it's interesting that the people that they say are minorities are the people that hyphenate the most. The first the first reference they make is not American. You're American after such and such.

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Well, I would I would take a little bit of issue with that, Sean, in that it is the left. It is the left that does that it doesn't matter what it's not necessarily any skin color. It's leftist. There's a study out of Pew Research that came out August 11th, just happened to have it open because one of the reasons, one of the things Democrats are doing right now, Sean, is trying to figure out how it was Donald Trump did so well, that racist Donald Trump did so well with Hispanic voters really, really well.

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And there was this poll by Pew that found that most Latinos, adults have never heard the word Latino or Latin acts or whatever. I don't even know which one it is. And that said, nine or 76 percent of Hispanics had never even heard of the term, 23 percent had used or had heard of it. And only three percent of Hispanics use the term Latinos. Yet you turn on MSNBC, you follow AOC in her tweets, you follow any of the Gang of four or the squad or whatever the hell they are out there in their tweets.

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It's Latin text Latina. So I think blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And people sit there and they go, what in hell?

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Who are why are you changing this? What is going on here? And they're getting sick of it to a certain extent.

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Donald Trump doesn't care. Republicans don't care by and large, and they don't pander, which is great, which is wonderful, which is the way you combat this kind of stupidity and division. Just your person. Are you a jerk or not a jerk? That's all I care about. All right. Appreciate the call, Sean, let's get you got time, Jeremy in Charlotte, North Carolina, your next on The Rush Limbaugh Show. Hello, Jeremy.

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Hey, Derek, question for you. It's been about two weeks now since the election and, you know, to me, the only place I seem to be able to go to get a constant stream about the fraud that happened is Twitter and parler. It seems like not just the mainstream media, but even, you know, by the people that I listen to regularly. Hard core conservatives are not I look at this is the absolute biggest issue of our time.

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It's so important. But there's only a few weeks, four or five weeks to kind of make everything happen. And it just seems like this should be topic number one. There's so many dimensions to this with dominion and debt, people voting and all that. Well, this is one thing I say, Jeremy.

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As far too many conservatives, Republicans look at Election Day as a finish line and Democrats don't. It's not it's a checkpoint. It's an endless marathon. It never stops. It's just a checkpoint. So Republicans will go wash their hands. Often the election's over when they really well, the House, blah, blah, blah. Let's go let's go to an island somewhere and have a vacation and just get ready for the next congressional session.

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Whereas Democrats are already plotting and planning what's happening right now. And we'll get into it in the next hour.

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We have a member of the Pennsylvania Congress coming on to talk about what's going on. But to put a fine point on what you were saying, Jeremy, most people will not know this name.

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Gregory Sandström. Gregory Sandström is a Navy veteran. He's a forensic computer scientist. He testified up in Pennsylvania on Wednesday at the big hearing they had will have audio coming up.

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But he had bombshell information, was a Republican poll watcher. He saw a lot of weird things, documented it. He's a Navy veteran. He's a well respected man in the field. And I decided gathering this audio for the show today, I said, well, let's see if maybe read the New York Times story about him. So it's not some conservative site or maybe The Washington Post or maybe NBC News has.

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So I did a search on Gregory Sandström, his name News Google, Fox News comes up, JLA comes up a story from August which has nothing something to do with real estate and the post-millennial. And then there's a story from The Washington Post from 2017 about Jim Webb that mentions him.

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No other media outlet bothered to cover not only what Sandström said, but that hearing in general, where there were really disturbing things, may not change the result in Pennsylvania this year.

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But these things have to result in changes to what goes on in Pennsylvania in the future. Damn well better or Republicans are screwed. Cheramie that's the kind of blackout that we're getting.

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Well, you know, I you know, I hope and pray that behind the scenes there's a lot of fantastic lawyers and just sort of semi obscure people like that that are just working on this and are going to get the right result at the end of the day. But, you know, I hope so. And just what the narrative is in the country and it just seems like, my gosh, if there's ever a time to just put all of our eggs in one basket, put all the energy.

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Now we lose Jeremy, I think we lost Jeremy, but I would I would love to see personally these billionaires, these so-called conservative billionaires that are out there, though they give tons of money to the think tanks.

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Jeff Bezos bought The Washington Post for pocket change for him buys get into the media business, OK, even if it's a loss leader, you need to get some honest journalism, some honest reporting going on out there.

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It shouldn't be a struggle. We shouldn't have to read between the lines to get to the news anyway.

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Well, we'll step away here. I'm Derek Hunter, sitting in for Rush Limbaugh. We'll be right back.

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I was just corrected via email. The guy's name is Stenstrom, not Sandström. I dropped the tea.

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I have dyslexia. What do you want from me? Plus, I've been drinking all morning. Just mostly kidding.

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Coming up in the next hour, I'll get the more. Your phone calls are going to be joined by a representative from the state of Pennsylvania and Pennsylvania State House can do things about this mess that we're talking about and all sorts of other news. We'll give you the latest developments on that hearing that happened, this disturbing hearing that happened up in Pennsylvania on Wednesday.

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I'm Derek Hunter. Filling in for Rush will be back.

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Welcome to our two of the Rush Limbaugh Show. I am Derek Hunter, sitting in for Rush today. First time jitters still there. Carry him throughout the show. Just how I roll. Fear not, though.

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Rush will be back here on Monday. Give you a recap of everything I missed. We missed three hours. He's right. Three hours is never enough to, especially in the last four years, which seems like 400 years. It's open line. Friday means you get to pick the topics when you get through. You got to get past Boston early, though.

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I want to talk about Pennsylvania and talk about the election in general. I don't know whether or not it was stolen.

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It sure as hell seems really, really suspicious that there would be eighty million people in this country looking at Joe Biden hiding in his basement for six months and Kamala Harris not doing one single press conference, no scrum, nothing, and say, I got to have that.

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I really got to have that. That's that's for me right there. When Joe Biden opens his mouth and he loses his train of thought before it even gets out of the station and you sit there and you think, who who looks at that and goes, more, please, more, please, maybe Comedy Central.

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But they don't really do comedy anymore, so they probably wouldn't either.

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That's why it's just curious to think that not only did Joe Biden do better than Barack Obama did, he did better than anybody ever has, something like ten or fifteen million more votes.

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Then Barack Obama, you're telling me, and in 2008, Barack Obama on the ballot, the excitement everybody knew John McCain was going to lose in 2008.

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It was it was just it was there. The only thing that gave him a chance was Sarah Palin being on the ballot. Conservatives. I mean, it was John McCain. He got glowing press coverage by attacking conservatives. So we weren't super excited about voting for him, but we held our breath and did it. But you also you know, it's like, OK, it's going to be it's going to be Barack Obama. Barring a miracle, the miracle didn't happen.

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Then in 2012, Barack Obama actually got fewer votes than he did in 2008, because that's kind of the pattern. Not very many presidents have gone up in subsequent re-election bids. It just so happened that the Republicans, the Republicans kind of got decimated in the Bush years.

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You had a vice president who, you know, loved Dick Cheney, but he didn't want to be president. So there was no heir apparent, which meant it was a free for all Republicans defaulted back to 2000s runner up and said, all right, you can have it.

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And then in 2012, it wasn't much better. PICKENS We ended up with Mitt Romney. All right. Lamb to the slaughter. And Romney had a good debate and Romney did OK in the campaign in that. OK, maybe. Just maybe.

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And then no. Even then, Barack Obama's vote total went down, and you're telling me that people were more excited and it's not just population growth, maybe gained 10 million people in population over that time period.

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We're expected to believe that something happened to the cities of Detroit, Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, where people are just like I got to I got to have that Biden.

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I don't know what to tell you. Give me get out of my way and I'd go trample everybody to get on that.

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Biden So that's what seems fishy at best, to put it politely to a lot of us out here.

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Like it doesn't make any sense.

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It's maybe true, but what's a kind of a giveaway is when you do just ask basic questions like scratching your head, going, wow, the city of Detroit really went overwhelmingly and in record numbers for a 77 year old white guy who never really set foot in the city. That's kind of weird.

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You ask that question, suddenly you're problematic. Oh, don't how dare you question it? And by President Trump questioning this and challenging some of the results, because there's is a lot of fishing is going on, keeping poll watchers out that massive dumps of votes that went 99 percent to Joe Biden, president ask questions.

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He's threatening our democracy. It's a threat to our democracy.

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You know, doing doing nothing about voter fraud is a threat to our democracy.

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Doing nothing about anything that's potentially cheapening the votes of Americans is a threat to our democracy. And I want to get in the Wayback Machine here for a second with cut seven, just because the talking heads, the breathless pearl cultures engaging their fainting couch, you can see them collectively.

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They put the back of their wrists to their forehead and they engage their fainting couch and they fan themselves going, oh, well, I never talking about what is happening right now.

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They don't remember 2037 days of Al Gore. That that was you know, that was I was in college then, that was massive, nobody was going, oh my God, it's it's a threat to our democracy that even they didn't even bother to say that Al Gore lost his home state, lost his home district that he used to represent in Congress. It was all about Florida and why Al Gore can do whatever he wants to do. We can fully understand that.

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Then you have 2016 when Donald Trump won. It's like these liberals don't think we remember that the Internet exists.

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It's much more ubiquitous than it was in 2001.

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And all of these talking heads on cable news are aware of the Internet because they're all on the Twitter and the Facebook and they're all touting their following. So that means that there's a massive archive out there of everything that they said.

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So I just want to play this cut between Chris Hayes and Michael Moore from 2016 to remind everybody that what Donald Trump is doing is not anywhere close in the same time zone, the same hemisphere as what they were encouraging Hillary Clinton to do and the electors back in 2016.

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Here's Chris Hayes and Michael Moore hoping, praying, trying to pressure electors, members of the Electoral College, to switch their votes. Count seven. Go ahead.

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Think there are people who are pushing very hard who think that because of some of the constitutional perils of the emoluments clause, because of the popular vote margin, because of fundamentals, they think threat to little democracy, that that electors could be persuaded and pressured on Monday to to part with what their pledges and vote and vote against Donald Trump. Yes, they absolutely should. Absolutely. I believe right now that there are electors that only 38 of them who have a conscience or who are worried about a man who won't attend the daily security briefings, who who we now know Russia was trying to help get elected.

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And that's a lie right there. Michael Moore lying. He was a member of the liberal elite in good standing still is. Chris Hayes is, you know, goes to the same Barbours, Rachel Maddow saying they're encouraging it. Now, what have these two and others of their ilk been doing since the election? Donald Trump is refusing to accept the results of the election. It is an outrage. It's a threat to our democracy.

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These are, of course, the same people that say a Donald Trump tweet criticizing the media is a threat to our democracy. Oh, no, our democracy. Our democracy isn't that fragile.

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The founding fathers were on to something.

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I realize you lefties don't hold them in any esteem, but they knew what they were doing.

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You don't. But they did. Don't ever forget that.

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So as we enter what's going on now, it's important to have that frame of reference of how things were just four short years ago.

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All of these players are still with us. All of these players have just ripped off their one uniform and took off the visitor's uniform. And now they're wearing the home uniform.

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They're preaching the exact same opposite the exact opposite of what they said back then.

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Michael Moore was not chastised for threatening our democracy. Chris Hayes was not chastised for threatening our democracy, not by challenging.

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The results by saying there was fraud, but simply bypassing the votes of the people, Donald Trump is trying to make sure that the actual votes of the people count.

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That's the difference between 2016 and 20 2020. Donald Trump wants to make sure they got the vote right, because if you just look at the numbers, it doesn't make any sense. It might be true, but it doesn't make any sense. So trying to make sense of it is part of what separates us from the animals. It's a good thing we can look at something and understand things and go, how does this what does this mean? OK, now I get it.

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Now we can go on. But asking questions is a hell of a lot different than putting pressure on elector's Jason Alexander, the guy who played George Costanza on Seinfeld, put out like a four minute video on YouTube.

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It was very, very calm. He was he was in his room. He's wearing khakis.

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So, you know, he was very serious and. Well, I need to talk to those electors out there. You know, this is wrong. You know, this is wrong. Hillary got more votes.

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And so we ask you to to change your vote in the Electoral College, they were actively, openly lobbying to bypass the will of the people in the various states and go right to the electors. So spare me the pearl clutching the indignation of O. Holy Frank Tanana. They're threatening our democracy. No, no, we're not. We're fighting to uphold the democracy because one fraudulent vote disenfranchises one American, one American being disenfranchised is far too many. I look at it the same way I look at like the murder of Kate Steinle or anybody, any American murdered by an illegal alien.

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The left always whenever there's something I mean, they refuse to cover Kate Steinle murder for months and months and months.

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And they say when they finally did, they always put the caveat in there.

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Well, remember, you're more likely to be murdered by an American than you are to be murdered by an undocumented migrant or whatever they happen to be calling them at that given time.

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And that's true. It's a numbers game, 330 million Americans, 11 million illegal aliens. Just statistically, it goes in that direction. The difference being anybody murdered by an illegal alien wouldn't have been murdered if the illegal aliens weren't in the country.

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So that's the difference. It's not like that movie final destination where it's your time, it's your time, and there's nothing you can do about it.

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If that illegal alien was not in San Francisco, is not in the United States that day to kill Kate Steinle, Kate Steinle would not have been murdered by somebody else. Somebody wouldn't have stepped up. It wasn't her time.

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He murdered her. So the same thing goes with voting. The question for leftists on immigration is how many Americans being murdered by illegal aliens is enough? Is there a line somewhere where you suddenly go, now I care, we're at X? No, now it's a problem. And before that, it's all like, wow, it doesn't really matter. No big deal. The question for Democrats now on voting is, is how many Americans being disenfranchised, having their votes canceled by illegal votes is enough for you to start to care to at least ask questions, to look in and say, hey, wait a second, something isn't right here.

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This is weird. Everybody can admit it's weird when in the middle of the night, three thirty in the morning and suddenly there's a right angle in a graph that doesn't seem right when why did it shoot up? Why are there 100000 votes for Joe Biden and none for Donald Trump? Because that's not how vote counting works.

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They don't go, are it will separate them into who gets what and then we'll count the Biden pile, then we'll count the Trump pile.

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That's not how vote counting works, or at least it's not supposed to be. So that we have questions is normal.

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That the left is insisting we not ask those questions is abnormal, which gives rise to a lot of curious head scratching going.

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Wait a second. Why aren't we allowed to ask questions? These are the people who get, you know, question authority tattooed on their their face, the people who consider themselves rebels, which is another thing.

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The left is the ultimate party of conformity, absolute conformity. Yeah. You can put a spike through your head. You can do wear whatever you want. You can claim some new gender you just created. And be that as long as you think the way they say, you'll be fine. But if you happen to be, you know, thinking for yourself.

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The calls for tolerance and inclusiveness suddenly go the way of the dodo.

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Ask Clarence Thomas, ask Condoleezza Rice how tolerant the left really is, really what they want when they say celebrate diversity is nothing but a bunch of different colored, like minded drones.

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You're able to do whatever you want as long as you do what you're told. You're able to think whatever you want, as long as you think what we think. That's the modern left. Well, when it comes to this election, no, I got some questions. You got some questions. We demand some answers. We're going to talk to somebody after the news who can maybe, hopefully give us some answers. And even if the answer is a it was a fluke, what are you going to do?

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Joe Biden's wildly popular with young urban kids. Maybe that's the case, but it sure as heck seems like fraud. And we definitely need to make sure that our elections are secure before the next one.

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If we don't if we let this sort of thing, I'll just be generous and call it weirdness metastasized throughout the rest of the country. Republicans will never win another election again. We can win on fair ground how Donald Trump can win when he's got 10 billion dollars worth of free media attacks against him from the media itself.

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You can't beat cheating, though. That's the problem. I have some amazing audio coming up, including and your phone calls at 800 282 to eight two. I am Derek Hunter.

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I'm lucky enough to be sitting in for Rush Limbaugh today, who will be back on Monday. We'll be right back after this.

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Welcome back to The Rush Limbaugh Show. I'm Derek Hunter. Sitting in breaking news out of Pennsylvania today for Pennsylvania. A federal appeals court rejected an attempt by President Donald Trump's reelection campaign to repeal.

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And since this was CNBC, the effort to undo the results of Pennsylvania's presidential election will have more on this as it develops.

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That's the latest.

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There's always more. There's always more. But let's get to the phones because it is open line.

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Friday, 800 202 288 two. We go out to Los Angeles with John.

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Welcome to the show, John.

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Yes, Derek, thank you for taking my call. Thank you for making it.

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I wonder if you can name another losing presidential candidate to blame his loss on election fraud as well.

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Privately, Richard Nixon in 1960 because of the mob in Chicago. Did Richard Nixon himself blame that loss on on private?

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I have privately, yeah, privately, but he didn't go on television.

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He wasn't the president of the United Snow, but it was Mark Simsbury rules back then. It was a different world.

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John, can you name another president in the United States who had been routinely called Hitler from the day of his election and on his Inauguration Day when Chris Matthews called his inauguration address Hitlerian?

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Oh, yeah, I probably could if I researched it. But but it's really not I don't think that's the I mean, that's not the president of the United States that's doing that kind of.

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Well, Joe Biden, I'm told him like marbles and Hitler this election cycle. So, I mean, yeah, let's not pretend that Vietnam didn't break I.

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Well, I appreciate the call, but I just got to say that, yeah, things are different then. And you want to talk about how things got different. Thanks for the call, John.

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But let's talk about how things got different because it was always Marcus of Queensbury rules and everybody's gentlemanly and we must all do this, that and the other thing.

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And everybody now on the left and the media says Donald Trump broke all these norms. He ruined all these norms. Oh, can you believe him? But suddenly everybody turns into a cheers patron. Norms, norms, norms.

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No, it wasn't that long ago. The word Bush, Hitler mean anything to you? One word, two syllables. Bush, Hitler, Bush, Hitler.

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They kind of said it like it was one syllable. And the left kind of said, well, we're not going to really talk about that.

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We're going to let him call Hitler.

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Then suddenly Bush Hitler went away and Barack Obama came and there was no Obama's Hitler to the extent that Obama was Hitler existed. It was from the Lyndon LaRouche people. Every once in a while, they'd take a picture in the media and say, look, they've got a picture of Obama with a Hitler mustache, those conservatives. And then you look and it's like LaRouche PAC down in the corner.

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Those are lefties. They were crazy. Now they're the mainstream of the Democrat Party. But suddenly 2016 comes around and it's Hitler, Hitler, Hitler, everywhere you go.

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That's a norm that was broken. You want to talk about Donald Trump's incivility? One thing I will point out about President Trump is he doesn't hit first. He hits back and he hits back hard as he should, as anybody should. But he is not out there picking fights with little old ladies and finding some backbench congressman nobody's ever heard of.

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He responds. That is maybe a new norm that you don't like if you want to go by Marcus of Queensbury rules. But he isn't out there calling everybody Mãe, calling him Stollen, calling him Hitler. That's the left, that's a pretty damn big norm, so that the president kind of roused back at them. Forgive me for not caring. We'll be back.

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I am Derek Hunter, sitting in for Rush Limbaugh, who will be back here on Monday. If you're not welcome to the program, it's open line Friday 800 202.

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282 is the telephone number to try and sneak one past the goalie. Most certainly today. We are joined now by Pennsylvania state representative representing the 86 legislative district up there in Pennsylvania, Greg Rothman.

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Congressman Rothman, how are you? I'm well, Derek. Are you? I'm doing well.

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And I just I the basic question, what the hell is going on up there in Pennsylvania?

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It's you had a big hearing there.

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You participated in this hearing on Wednesday. And one of the things that stuck out to me as I'm listening to this Wednesday afternoon was the testimony from Greg Stenstrom, who is a Navy veteran and a forensic computer scientist, guy who was an election observer for the Republicans. Before we get into your response to this, I want to play a clip for you and get your reaction to it, because no matter what happens in this election, things got to change there in Pennsylvania to cut 10.

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Go ahead.

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What we saw there, what I saw there was a chain of custody and all cases that was broken was broken for the mail in ballots, the Dropbox ballots, the Election Day USB card, flash drives, in all cases, the chain of custody and the procedures that were defined by the Delaware County Board of Elections and Election Process review were all they didn't follow one. I couldn't even read Linus multipage documents because the entire document would be they didn't follow any of the procedures.

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Congressman Rothman, how is it possible for one county to is it that incompetent? Is it that corrupt? How does one county not just get it wrong? There's always going to be errors around the edges.

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That's what being human is. But to get everything completely wrong, how does that happen?

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Well, and, you know, we saw it's indisputable that we saw in both Philadelphia County and Allegheny County that hundreds of thousands of votes were counted without any observation, without the other side being able to observe. So why you know, that's that's the question we're trying to get at. But it's the law that we passed back in October of 2000, nineteen seventy 77, which would allow ready for this no excuse absentee ballot voting, not turned into a mail in ballot mail in voting campaign.

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That was changed numerous times.

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There's created whole cloth by the Supreme Court in the state, wasn't it. Yeah, they added things like that. Ballots can receive three days after the election that verification of signatures wasn't required. The Department of State created regulations that flew in the face of what the law said, including drop boxes where you could just drop your ballots off. So all of those things are indisputable. The question is whether or not those played a role. And Vice President Biden winning the election in Pennsylvania.

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And there are a number of us in the legislature there trying to get the answer to that.

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And by the way, we're not and we're not alleging anything. We're listening to testimony. And in 2016, the same governor in the same administration in Pennsylvania waited until December 12th to certify the election. What is the urgency of certifying our election on November 24th this time?

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Well, the difference is if you certify it, then you have to officially, legally challenge it. If you don't certify it, then you can possibly have a better chance of of changing the results. Congressman Rothman, another clip from Gregory Stenstrom. I want to skip the cut to here, because this one this one is bizarre to me.

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You were in the room and it seems to me that there was or at least should have been an audible gasp when this happened under oath and testimony cut 12 got observed in the locked room in the back office with 70000 unopened mail in ballots.

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They were in boxes of 500 stacked in neatly. The gentleman that came in with me is it was a Democrat poll watcher is a forensic pathologist, a very detailed, very dedicated man. And he took meticulous notes as well. And I verified with him, are you seeing what I'm seeing? We both agreed as GOP poll watchers in a Democrat poll watcher that we had witnessed 70, 60 to 70000. We had a little bit of a disagreement there. The problem with that was by that time, the mail in ballots had already been counted.

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So 120000 mail in ballots had already been counted, posted and done. So my question is, where do the 70000 ballots go? Do we know Rothman?

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Do we know what was going on there? We do not know.

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And our our state government committee requested that the secretary of state, the Democratic appointee, come in and answer questions. She refused. That same committee invited Dominion voting systems, machines that are in 14 of our counties in to answer questions of our committee. At the last minute, they canceled. That's that's the concern of many of the Republicans in the legislature that we'd like answers. And I would think that anybody who loves democracy and cares about this country on either side of the aisle would want to make sure that nothing that, you know, that this election was was legitimate.

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You would think that.

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But why not? Everybody wants to make sure the World Series is legitimate. But a couple of years ago, you know, now Astros fans don't care all that much.

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I'm a Dodgers and I know. So, yeah, this is bigger than that, right? I mean, yes, it's in the next year and we're talking about elections in our country because frankly, if we allow this to happen without investigating, it just encourages bad actors in future elections or in an election in Georgia in early January.

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Is there any bipartisan Republicans control the statehouse in Pennsylvania, but is there any Democrat reaching out to you, even privately saying, look, when the spotlight dies down, I'd get crucified by my own party if I come out now.

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But when the spotlight dies down, yeah, I agree. We have to make some changes here.

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I have not heard from them. It doesn't mean there aren't people in the party. I just haven't heard from. Other members have told me they have. But but we're all concerned because the elections, you know, it's the most important thing we do. It's how we choose our leaders and whether it's president or state representative or anywhere in between. We have to make sure we get it right. And the voters depend on that. We are a nation of the consent of the governed.

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Right. And so if they're not able to choose the leaders they want, they're going to question the legitimacy of the government. So that's that's why this is so important that we get it right and what's right. You know, are the Democrats in the left held rallies the day after election saying count every vote, count every vote. And then as soon as Vice President Biden took the lead, they stopped talking about the vote.

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Well, that was Al Gore's playbook in Florida in 2000. Keep counting until I get ahead. It got Al Franken in the Senate. My guest is Congressman Greg Rothman from Pennsylvania. Congressman, what can you tell?

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What as you watched all of this unfold in person and you know, the players involved, you know, the party machines involved, you grew up in this. What bothered you the most? What what what was the biggest red flag for you?

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Democracy dies in darkness, right? Isn't that The New York Times says the most observers are watching the fact that observers from both either campaigns or both parties were not allowed to observe the counting. I mean, that that to me is the most dangerous thing. I've lost plenty of elections that I supported candidates. And that happens. We all know about that. But the idea that you can have ballots counted without and when you have mail and voting is different, it's not like you're looking at a machine.

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I mean, hundreds of thousands of votes were counted without anybody being able to observe. Is is very concerning to me. And we heard that from both ends of the state, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh.

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And you have a room apparently with at least 70000, 120000 square foot warehouse convention center.

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I mean, I think about 120000 square feet. And to be able to, you know, be 200 feet away or 20 feet away and that can't read something that's it's 10 feet away. So observing means something. And we know that's not in dispute that the Democratic controlled counties would not allow Republicans to observe the count.

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As you describe this situation as the audio we played, a lot of people are sitting there going, oh, that sounds really messed up. Why? Where are the courts now? In Pennsylvania? You have a Democrat dominated Supreme Court. Talk a little bit about what they have done to show their cards as less judges and more activist.

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Yeah, well, in Pennsylvania elect judges. So these are partisan Democrats that ran campaigns. One of them ran on a campaign talking about how we needed to change our our our our districts and our maps, which generally is only done every 10 years, and then went and voted on changing the maps and instead allowing the legislature to do it. The Democrat controlled Supreme Court wrote their own maps, which changed our congressional elections, so lost how many Republican seats in that reddest.

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I think I think we lost five at that point, which is crazy. Yeah. And gave Nancy Pelosi control of Congress. So and now we're in an even number of nine and nine. But this this is a very partisan court. They upheld everything that every draconian measures that our Democratic governor instituted during covid, including a rule the other day that on Wednesday nights at five p.m., Barnes could no longer serve alcohol. It could be in the bars, it could still be eating.

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They could still drink soda, but they will not serve alcohol. And many of these things we appeal to Supreme Court. Supreme Court ruled that the governor had that authority, which he doesn't. And the secretary of state has secretary of health has authority that they don't. And now the secretary of state and the election, the courts have given her authority that we don't believe in the law. So they have no help.

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How often are the staggered elections of how many are up each cycle for the Supreme Court or how long as the term goes to a certain age?

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So it will be you? I think it's a 10 year and you have retention's, but we we are going to have at least one coming up because it seems like you have to change the court in order to change the state legislature.

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And even if you change the governor's mansion, they're there to just say not interested liberal policies go forward.

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That's right. The courts are just as important and and maybe more so in this case.

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Congressman Representative Greg Rothman of Pennsylvania, thank you for letting us interrupt your your Thanksgiving weekend.

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Not like there was super good news coming out of there, but we got to know because we got to know where to fight and how to fight.

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Thank you, Congressman. And don't give up. Never give up. Never. It's a checkpoint, not an end. Keep your elbows sharpened up.

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Welcome back to The Rush Limbaugh Show. I'm Derek Hunter. Sitting in its open line Friday, 800 202 202 people are very, very kind to hold. And I will do my best to get to all of you. We go back to the phones because it is open line. Friday, we start up in Burlington, Vermont, with Paul. Thank you for holding, Paul.

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Hey, Derek. Happy Thanksgiving. Happy. Thanks. I want to agree with your point that I don't think 80 million Americans looked at Joe Biden and said we want him. I'm sensing that that was I think 80 million Americans looked at President Trump and said we don't want him. So that, I think, explains the outcome of the deal.

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Do you really think that many low because I could buy some of it. I'd buy five million. I bet it you know, that's fine. President Trump is one thing President Trump does not inspire is indifference, Paul.

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So I'll give you that. Yeah. Yeah.

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But yeah, to 15 million, 80 million people, more than Barack Obama by double digit by 10 million or more said I got to go against him.

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We didn't see that kind of bump against Obama from Republicans. It just there's a bump, but not that big of a bump. There was more of a drop in his support from 08 to 12.

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Do you really think that 80 million people. I got to get rid of this guy because what let me ask you this.

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I assume you're up in Vermont. You got Bernie Sanders up there and you're putting his four. Were you one of those 80 million people who said I got to vote against this guy?

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I was. OK, we're all friends here. It's fine.

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Yeah, of course.

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Now, what did Donald Trump do that so upset you that you said, I've got to get rid of this guy? Well, I didn't vote for him last time either. OK, but you see, you skip to the let's just say you skipped to the polls this time.

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OK, yeah, OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think there's a number of things. I think some of the norms that you talked about earlier are clearly upset, some people.

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But when I talked about those will go by one on one by one. But when I said those norms, those norms were not destroyed by Donald Trump, he didn't come out and start calling everybody Hitler.

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And that's kind of an important norm that was destroyed long before Donald Trump came down the escalator.

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But I think to refer to the press as the enemy of the people, I think is is is unsettling. I think it's important. We have.

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But you acknowledge. Yeah, he said the press is the enemy of the people. He actually said fake news is the enemy of the people, but he did nothing about it.

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For all the pearl clutching overall is a threat to the First Amendment. He didn't do anything to the press.

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He didn't push any legislation. He didn't sign any executive orders that had to be overturned for violating the First Amendment. While Barack Obama actually spied on 20 Associated Press reporters phones, he actually went through James Rosen, Fox News parents email to find sources.

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So saying something is one thing. Yeah, and sticks. But the Sticks and Stones doctrine compared to Obama who did something, why didn't it bother you that Obama did something? Why bother you so much that just Donald Trump called them the fake news enemy of the people?

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Well, Donald Trump wasn't running against Barack Obama. No, I understand that. But you did you did you vote for Mitt Romney in 2012?

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I did not. I did not. I'm like you said, I'm in Vermont and Bernie Sanders.

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Okay. It's a perfectly acceptable answer to say, of course, it's my team. I don't care. It's an honest answer. I grew up loving the Red Wings and I hated Chris Chelios is a hell of a defenseman for the Chicago Blackhawks. Hated him. He was so good. Then he became a red wing and I loved him. I get it. It's the my team philosophy. It's OK to give that answer. Yeah, so I think I think for a lot of people.

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Well, again, I can speak for myself. I think for me it started with Donald Trump's racist birther movement, which to me was was racism, plain and simple. And clearly, again, going back to, you know, these 25 some odd women that accused him of sexual assault. I mean, I just have a real problem with that. I think I think it's.

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You voted for Joe Biden, right? Yeah. But, you know, I don't think anybody accused Joe Biden of quite what Donald Trump did.

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You buy Tara Reid's book? She's got a book. She's the one who accused him of what would constitute a definition, legal definition of rape, but definitely sexual assault. And she actually had contemporaneous evidence at the time.

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There's also allegedly a report she filed in the Senate at the time back in 1993 that is sealed in the University of Delaware in Biden's papers that he would not allow anybody to look at.

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Did that give you pause at all, Paul?

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Well, yeah, I certainly didn't understand why those records weren't opened up. You know, I mean, there in the library, it seems to me that they should be open. But but again, I think you couldn't maybe guess why.

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Well, I mean, why isn't Donald Trump released his taxes? Can we get away? It's OK. Look, you don't have to do what about Azem? You can say it's my team.

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I care more. Well, no, it is. It is clear. OK, let's see. That's perfectly fair. It's I, I don't agree with it, but it's perfectly fair that you say it.

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I'm not going to judge you for saying it. I appreciate the honesty. We're literally up against the clock. Paul, I spent a lot of time with you. I appreciate it. We had a civil conversation. Nobody called anybody a Nazi, even though you probably are. No, I'm just kidding.

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We'll get to more of your phone calls.

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It is open line Friday, plus a bunch more news coming up o our three word an hour, one and two go. I am Derek and from the host of the Derek Hunter Show and the Derek Hunter podcast and author of the book Outrage Inc.. Just a Thrill to Be Here on Open Line Friday. The number 800 202 288 to the man himself. I can't thank you enough. We'll be back here on Monday. So fear not just to put a fine point on what we were talking about at the end of the hour of going on in Pennsylvania.

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Just want to point this out just again, asking questions doesn't seem to be any problem with ask.

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Well, the left hates being questioned about anything, but as Americans friends this Thanksgiving free to ask questions, I'm gonna give you just some numbers. Not a lot of numbers. I know numbers don't go over well on the radio, but from six counties in Pennsylvania having to be controlled by Democrats.

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Philadelphia, Montgomery, Delaware, Chester Bux, Allegheny, Joe Biden's campaign, he managed to surpass Barack Obama's vote totals by a total of 268 thousand votes in those six counties up in Pennsylvania.

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That's three times the current er, quote, victory margin for Joe Biden in the state of Pennsylvania of 81000 660 votes. Now, Trump won this state in 2016.

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I'm not saying it's impossible that everybody was excited about Barack Obama in 2008, got really doubly excited and dragged friends and neighbors to the polls. Just say and that seems a little unlikely. I get I understood the excitement around Barack Obama in 2008 from Democrats from the left and from people who weren't politically engaged or didn't have any idea what the guy actually stood for, wanted to do. I can understand you just look at it and go, this is super exciting.

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He's really cool. And he's the first black guy, blah, blah, blah. I got all that.

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Joe Biden is like, hey, it's it's the weird grandpa that you reluctantly visit at Easter.

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I think nobody's excited about that.

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Creepy guy telling stories about young kids patting his leg hair and throwdowns with corn pop in a parking lot while he's a lifeguard at a pool, and somebody says more of that, please, I.

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I came for the whimsical, rambling, pointless stories. I stayed for the decades of casual racism. I must vote for this guy. I'm sorry, I.

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I just need to see some you know, you go out on a golf course and you you tell me you shot a 60. OK, great. Your score card is nice, but I want to talk to the other people in your foursome. I got to know how that happened. That's just me and other news over the last couple of days.

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There was on Wednesday, there was a big victory.

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Late Wednesday, I believe is late Wednesday, a big decision out of the Supreme Court for religious liberty, which anybody who sits there and says Donald Trump's tweets mean tweets about the press. That's a threat to our democracy. It's a horrible, horrible thing.

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He did you see that? He tweeted out a meme of him wrestling the CNN logo.

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How are we going to deal with this?

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Brian Stelter, the human weeble over there wobbling and not falling down, but crying silently to himself, going, this is a threat to democracy?

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Well, the threats to religious freedom are because, by the way, Donald Trump did nothing about the press, by the way, can do anything. The First Amendment, he respects the First Amendment. The left doesn't respect the First Amendment. I don't respect really any of the amendments, particularly the second they wrapped themselves in the first while wiping themselves with the second.

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They look at only part of the first, the part that has to do with the press. They're not so much a fan of, oh, they like the gathering's, depending on what it's for the right to peaceably assemble.

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They love that as long as that doesn't even have to be peaceably can be full blown riots. And you'll have Ali Velshi standing in front of the roasting weenies on a burning tire store going it's mostly peaceful. Don't pay any attention to this fire. But if people get together and say we want to not be locked in our houses, we'd like to be able to make a living again, we can resume life safely again, get out of our way. Government, though, they don't like those peaceable, the actual peaceable assembly.

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They said, did you see they're carrying guns? Yeah.

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How many people got shot at those? None. How many people got killed in a shop in Seattle? Two. So if you're keeping score and that's just one of the riots, I'm pretty sure that the side of pro freedom has a lower body count at zero.

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But the religious liberty aspect of the First Amendment is another part of the Constitution in the First Amendment that the left despises.

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They don't like religion. Their their religion is God or is government, and their God is climate change.

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And that's all they're interested in. And anything that distracts from that, you know, think about Mount Olympus.

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None of the gods liked any of the other gods because they all wanted to be up on top. Leftists don't like competition, even from God to their concept of God. So you had all the states imposing restrictions on.

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Believers in various states across the country, the Supreme Court in the past has kind of let it slide four to four generally and four to four decisions or five four when Darth Vader Ginsburg was alive, they they were winning.

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Yes, government can restrict the number of people churches have. They can close churches if they want.

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Well, a case out of New York went back to the Supreme Court only. This is a different Supreme Court. This Supreme Court has Justice Amy CONI Barrett sitting on it.

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And in a five four ruling yesterday, I guess it was Thanksgiving Day, the Supreme Court issued an injunction blocking New York from enforcing a 10 to 25 person occupancy limit on religious institutions. This is a huge win for religious liberty, for the Constitution. Everybody gets it. Nobody's out there running around saying covid is a myth. covid is this covid is that.

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But if you have a large facility and lovely and religious people, faithful people want to attend a service and they socially decent, they take care of everything else. We're told if you can't socially distance wear a mask, we're told masks saves lives. So if you're wearing a mask, what's the problem? We're also told masks saves lives. You must you must wear a mask while the very same people telling us that are releasing people from prison because it's unsafe because of it, which I would say give them a mask, should be problem solved.

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Right. That was wear a mask, mask, save lives. How about you just give the prisoners masks? Seems like a way to not let rapists out of prison. I'm all in favor of that. But nobody ever asked those questions because we'd have to have an honest media about it, but this Supreme Court decision reaffirming the right of the people to have freedom of religion was not met well by our leftist friends, Ben Rhodes. Remember him? He was the national security adviser under Barack Obama, failed novelist.

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He majored in creative writing, got his master's degree in creative writing. By the time you graduate college, you should just be able to write, but you got to go back for three more years of study.

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Hey, whatever.

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Probably really only got his job because his brother ran CBS News, but he was up there and now he's an MSNBC contributor because why not? Liberals fail up and they fail into into high paying jobs.

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He tweeted out upon the news of the Supreme Court decision, quote, The new illegitimate five to four SCOTUS majority overturning a policy to put more lives in danger.

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Well, what happened to freedom of choice? What happened to that? There only that they're not really into freedom of choice. One thing in one area, only everything else they want to restrict. Now, in dissent, this is kind of funny. And this lets you know where the liberals on the court coming from. Justice Sonia Sotomayor added a first footnote, the first page.

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This is her first footnote quote.

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Ironically, due to the success of New York's public health measures, the diocese is no longer subject to the numerical caps on attendance it seeks to enjoin, see, brief, blah, blah, blah. Yet the court grants this application to ensure that should infection rates rise once again, the governor will be unable to reimplement the very measures that have proven so successful at allowing the free and comparatively safe exercise of religion in New York.

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She's praising. Andrew Cuomo, Governor Andrew Cuomo oversaw more deaths than most countries. Governor Andrew Cuomo has order nursing homes killed 10 to 20000.

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We don't even know how many because they they changed the way they counted things. It's really kind of a nice little shell game. The Cuomo is up there and it really are like those guys playing three card monte in Times Square late at night, constantly talking so you don't notice what their hands are doing.

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Andrew Cuomo issued the executive order on nursing homes and two months later he rescinded it two months later, then on his book tour, said I, and we never actually used that. Well, you did, actually.

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People acted accordingly in accordance with the law, Governor, but it took him two months to rescind it after thousands of deaths, took him two months to order the subways to be sterilized every night, the subways, petri dishes on wheels. What why didn't it occur to you that a pandemic might spread in a tuna can on wheels underground?

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Poor ventilation, but Andrew Cuomo denied all of it.

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I can understand the the rationalization behind the nursing home order.

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When you think your hospitals are going to be overwhelmed, you sign this and said, well, people in nursing home, they have some medical care there. So we can maybe not clutter up some beds with them. They'll get the same kind of medical care we can give them in a hospital.

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I don't understand it.

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Taking two months of not going to capacity of not needing the comfort station in New York Harbor that never filled up, never got any covid patients, I don't think, or the makeshift hospitals they constructed in in Central Park never got patients.

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So he preemptively ordered seniors to their death on the off chance, maybe even the prospect that the hospitals are going to be overrun, but they weren't and it took him two months to do that.

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But thank God for a conservative Supreme Court, if you want to practice your religion, you are now free to do so in New York. Now, Justice Roberts sided with the liberals, which I hope you were sitting down because nobody's surprised by that. The liberals were very upset. New York Times reporter Elizabeth Williams.

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And this is how an unbiased reporter is, a New York Times reporter, don't you see?

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She tweeted out upon hearing the news, quote, Holiday service super spreaders brought to you in part by the Catholic Church, which got the Supreme Court it wanted just in time for Christmas. Sounds like she's really fair and open and willing to hear people out, doesn't it? Doesn't it? No, not at all.

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But this is who the left is. They show us who they are. They really do show us who they are. All we have to do is look, all we have to do is listen.

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Meanwhile, people are actually suffering from these lockdowns. The study out of Virginia last week that showed that the number of students getting doubled, more than doubled, special needs kids more than tripled.

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It's been a disaster this distance, learning what the teachers unions love it.

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Teachers unions love it.

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Remember when L.A. Teachers Union said, we're not coming back until you do this, that and the other thing, ensure our safety and defund the police, which are sitting there going, what the hell does that have to do with anything?

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It doesn't. It's just liberals. Will parasitically glom on any one of their little Christmas tree ornaments on to their their wish list of things.

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Then we've got this out of The Washington Post. Virtual schooling has largely forced moms, not dads, to quit work. It will hurt the economy.

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For years, more than two million women dropped out of the labor force as of October, the percent of American women working is the lowest since 1988.

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You would think Democrats, the party of women would be a little bit concerned by this and the dilemma that families face, you would be wrong.

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Nancy Pelosi, she did not push through her progressive wing and say, OK, we're not going to get Republicans to agree to bail out cities and states who spent irresponsibly just yet.

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But we can help people. Women are suffering. We're supposed to be the party of women. I'm a woman. And Nancy Pelosi's voice, because I am not I don't even identify as one. But she didn't.

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She lets it go. These women suffering, described by The Washington Post, which goes through, you know, you got to find child care. You got to find all these things. Now, the kids are at home. Every every parent at home knows this. Every parent at home knows the perils of distance learning.

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And no one should know that Nancy Pelosi is looking at that and saying, oh, oh, how can I use this to my advantage, which is really kind of sick, if you think about it. Party of women, the party of people, the party of children, the children's for the children. Every other day you hear some Democrats screaming about what about the children must do this for the children. What are they doing to the children? Thank God children don't get impacted dramatically by covid-19, the exact opposite of the Spanish flu in 1918.

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Thank God for that.

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But what are we doing? We're looking at kids who are not going to be able to make up this time, we're looking at parents who are not going to be able to make up this time in earnings. The children are going to have to be held back for at least a year, at least a year. And that since not only did they not advance, they've atrophied. It might even be more than a year or it be worse. I mean, I don't even know which is worse, the hold everybody back a year or just say, well, we're going to push everybody forward.

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You can decide. All of this while Democrats insist on bailouts for local governments that overspent and underdelivered, trying to bailout state pensions that they overpromised on and spent the money on, the state of Illinois gives lottery winners IOUs. There's so far gone. Ready to fund that, I'm going to take a pass on that. This is Open Line Friday. I am Derek Hunter, sitting in for the great Rush Limbaugh, the number 800 202 288, too.

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We will get to your phone calls when we get back.

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Welcome back to The Rush Limbaugh Show. I am Derek Hunter here on the EIB Network. It's open line Friday, 800 202 282.

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Let's talk to Paul in Lewiston, Maine. Thank you for holding, Paul. You've been very patient.

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Thank you. Thank you. God bless you, Derek. Great job reporting here. Thank you. I've been a fan of yours for years, reading you on town halls. Know, and you're the one. Thank you. Well, you're not you're not the ball right out of the park. It's getting to the point now where I don't leave the others.

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Throw MacCulloch every now and then, Paul, just to be nice.

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Listen, I'm I'm a self-employed builder. I've been building for 40 years. I know what it's like to do roofing. I mean, that's part of your bio, was that you did some roofing for a while.

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I did two summers of roofing, actually, one eight month stint. I also did some construction of some concrete work, too, and an electrician's assistant, which was mostly digging ditches and blowing wire through tubes.

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Well, you know, I would attribute your skill as a writer to being a good roofer. Yeah, well, there's so much time to think and it makes you ugly. You know, roofing makes it make you ugly.

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It makes you filthy. I still have my red wing boots covered in that 800 degree tar, and I still have some scars on my legs from it. That is amazing.

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It's really amazing. So we've got a lot in common. I chair the Ron Paul campaign in 2012 here in Maine, and I've had my feet on the ground and I, I network well with the grassroots I. I passed on your articles to a lot of other people. People are tuning in, so you might want to keep that point, the point of that pencil shop again. You're writing as well as you do. Well, thank you. I wanted to say that was it was a great ruling yesterday.

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And of course, Cuomo didn't take much time to do damage control. Said that the other decision was irrelevant. Blast.

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Well, the way they tried to do it, and this is what Roberts fell for is right. Two days before the court was to rule, we get to hear the case, the court, the state said we're going to lift the restrictions now. Right. And try to say, you know, there's nothing to rule on. We're not oppressing anybody. But that would just mean that they could slap them back on, wait for the appeal to get it to the Supreme Court, pull it back off again and play that little shell game.

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And that's what Gorst Gorsuch actually blasted Chief Justice Roberts for, because Roberts said, we're right on the merits, but there's really no harm here since the things have been pulled back. It's it's it's manipulation. It's like filing suits in 15 different places across the country. It's judge shopping kind of way. It's it's predictable.

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You know, it is.

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Paul, I hate to cut you off because you've been so kind, but you made me embarrassed and we're up against the clock. Enjoy some lobster up there. Say hi to my friend Garrett if you're running to him.

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I'm Derek Hunter. This is The Rush Limbaugh Show. We'll be right back. It really is.

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Derek Hunter filling in for Rush. Hi, Dad. Dad listening up in northern Michigan.

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We'll get to more your phone calls, I promise. It is open line Friday, but my mouth does have a lot of things to get out of it. I want to talk a little bit about the pardon of General Flynn.

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Judge Sullivan, it's really just been a disgrace to the bench bench in dragging his feet on dropping charges against General Michael Flynn for the crime of allegedly lying to FBI agents when the first pass of those FBI agents said he didn't lie to us, they also had the transcript. The only reason to go and talk to Michael Flynn was in the hopes that he says something they could contort into a lie. It was part of they got to get something. The left the one thing the left has spent doing consistently throughout the Trump years is trying to claim scalps.

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That's it. They don't care. Oh, you got to take down an American hero. Who cares? Is it is it the Trump scalp? Well, let's get it. Let's just get it. It's it's really sick.

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And so when President Trump had been holding off on the pardon, I think President Trump would have granted this pardon a long time ago. But General Flynn wanted the exoneration. Judge Sullivan refused to drop the charges. Of course, everybody knows that and appointed a retired judge to come in and advocate on behalf of the court, which.

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Almost unheard of to say why the charges should not have been dropped, which is ridiculous. Then that case kept going forward, getting appealed and appealed was dragging out, dragging out, dragging out. And Judge Sullivan, rather than handle his defeats at the appellate and federal court level. He decided while we got to have more hearings on this and he scheduled them and then he schedule, he delayed them and he delayed them past January 20th.

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Just coincidentally, I'm sure it was, you know, just a technical oversight, hoping that Donald Trump wouldn't be president after that.

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Well, Donald Trump looked at that and said, this is this is enough while I still can. Who knows what will happen before January 20th, but while I still can, I'm going to grant the pardon. And so General Flynn is free.

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Yet there are leftists out there who are wildly unhappy. One MSNBC legal analyst, MSNBC and NBC News legal analyst. It's the whole cable news world is so incestuous.

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It's a former federal prosecutor under Barack Obama.

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Of course, he is advocating for Judge Sullivan to demand that the lawyers from the Justice Department come in and explain to him how this pardon is not corrupt. Now, he posted a 10 minute video on YouTube yesterday.

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I'm not going to bore you with it, but I watched it. And it's like, well, what what is the justification for some lawyer, some former federal prosecutor, some cable news, talking head? What is it that he says that is so wrong about this?

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And all he does is repeat the word corrupt about 150 times. Every third sentence has the word corrupt. It is corrupt. Pardon? Corrupt. This trumps corruption. Corruption.

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You notice that the left never actually says what it was where the caller earlier. What was it that Donald Trump said that you didn't like?

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There was no I didn't care for his tax cuts or anything. Like there was no substantive not to pick on that guy. But you ask any liberal who has Trump Tourette's where they just freak out.

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Trump asked them what Trump did. What does he do that so bad? They don't have an answer for you? What did he do it? How is he a threat to democracy? How is it how is he Hitler? How is this heaven? They don't have an answer. It's just. Well, Trump. Trump's bad. Trump's corrupt. He's making himself rich off of the White House, really his net worth has gone down. Well, but still, they eventually get to the point where they just give you the yabut still defense, which is nothing, I means they give up, but it doesn't matter.

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They know that they don't have an answer and they don't care. That's essentially the yabut still argument that they engage in. So after the pardon, Michael Flynn, the cable news world went absolutely berserk, as they do.

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Mara Gay is a member of the New York Times editorial board. She was on MSNBC talking about this. And you want to talk about unhinged. This is the editorial board that sets the tone for the paper. This is the paper's you know, the she's got to vote on the paper's official position on things. And they they write their official position on their she uses MLK.

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To make a Nazi comparison. I'm not even kidding, cut for go ahead. We got cut for. And we don't have cut for she remember, MLK said that everything that happened in Nazi Germany was legal and that is the explanation in the way things are in the Trump administration talking about the pardon of General Flynn. Now, General, if you believe everything about General Flynn, if you believe it all his crime in quotes was lying to FBI officers, FBI and FBI agents.

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That's it.

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That was it. Not you shouldn't lie to FBI agents, but those FBI agents did not believe that he lied to them at first.

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And yet for that, they want him to go to prison, they've already ruined him, they've already forced the sale of his home, they've already threatened his son to get the guilty plea. And the left wants him to rot in prison now, what was his sin again, his sin was working for Donald Trump.

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That's enough.

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And that sin is going to follow everybody who worked for Donald Trump. You remember the Clinton Bush years, right? It was Bill Clinton to George W. Bush. What did George W. Bush do? And this was kind of the way things go. You want to talk about norms.

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George W. Bush comes in. There's a lot of weird things going on in the Clinton administration.

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Wasn't just Monica Lewinsky. There was remember the China fundraising. Remember, Al Gore went to a Buddhist monk at a monastery out in California, came away with 200000 dollars from Chinese monks who took a vow of poverty. Gee, where did that money come from?

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We had actually people, Chinese citizens fleeing the country.

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They still haven't returned. Who were the ones who were the bagmen for the Chinese communist. Seems like kind of a big deal.

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George Bush comes in, George Bush is a very old school politician, says we're going to look forward and not backwards, and everybody in the Clinton administration said Marc Rich bought his pardon.

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That's all right. We're not going to look into that. We're not going to look into anything. That big donation to the Clinton library, no big deal.

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The Clintons were good and good to go. Then Barack Obama comes in. What did Barack Obama promised to do? He wanted to go after?

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People who done things in the war on terror during the Bush administration, you poured water of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's nose, that's it.

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You got to spend the rest of your life in prison. You're a monster. Oh, really? A poor guy. He's only the mastermind behind 9/11. And you brought a water up his nose and poor dear. So I forget who it was.

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But somebody in the CIA destroyed the tapes, destroying the tapes, which God bless them. Thanks for doing that. The Obama set the tone that they were not going to play by the old rules again. There was no oh, my goodness, Barack Obama is breaking the norms. There was no concern about that whatsoever. So it would not.

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And then, of course, the transition with Trump, they were spying on the Trump campaign. They were spying on the Trump transition team. They kept that apparatus in place to spy on the Trump administration and try and frame up the Trump administration. One thing they haven't done is prove any actual crimes. They've alleged all of them. But they haven't proven any of them, so why should we expect them to be different if Joe Biden ends up in the White House?

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Why would we expect them, people who, to this day, if you mention the name Ronald Reagan, will spit on the ground and go, oh, he was the worst. It just this really visceral, angry response to a guy's existence who died almost 20 years ago, hadn't been president for 30 years. You mentioned Ronald Reagan and they just go crazy over it.

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Trump is going to supplant that, so anybody who worked for Donald Trump is probably going to have to spend the rest of their adult lives looking over their shoulders.

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When you have an attorney general in the state of New York who ran on the promise that I am going to investigate all of Trump's businesses, all the Trump children, anybody name Trump, anybody who plays euchre and anybody who ever was involved with Trump businesses, we're going to see if they did anything wrong. That is that is Banana Republic stuff. We'll find out if you broke the law. But normally, investigations require an allegation of lawbreaking.

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Of course, she won in New York, she's a hero of the left, so Matt Gates the other day, congressman from Florida, came up with an idea this is going to be cut 15 president needs to just basically pardon everybody preemptively.

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I think there might be some merit to this cut 15. Go ahead.

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Should pardon Michael Flynn. He should pardon the Thanksgiving turkey. He should pardon everyone from himself to his administration officials to Joe Exotic if he has to, because you see from the radical left a bloodlust that will only be quenched if they come after the people who worked so hard to animate the Trump administration with the policies and the vigor and the effectiveness that delivered for the American people. So I think that the president ought to wield that pardon power effectively and robustly.

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It's kind of a fun idea. I like it, but I have a suggestion.

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Suggestion for you, Mr. President.

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If you're listening, not only should you issue blanket pardons to pretty much everybody in your administration just for fun, you should the left will go berserk and say this is an admission of guilt.

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They do that every time. I did that with Michael Flynn, even though he's not guilty. This is an admission of guilt. He accepts the pardon. It's an admission of guilt.

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Just for fun, just for hear me. The president should also pardon like Peter struck Lisa Page. James Comey, Brennan, all of them, every single one of them, issue of blank, sort of pardon for their crime, actually very, very specific in the crimes for spying on violating the Fourth Amendment issue.

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Those parts, they're not going to be prosecuted anyway. I know everybody's holding out hope for Durham, but that's that horse ain't going to hunt.

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So pardon them all.

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Throw them all pardons out there, put them on the defensive, neuter the idea that accepting a pardon or getting pardoned means an admission of guilt and throw it right back in their faces.

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And you can put any declaration next to the pardon you want as you sign it, put it in there for the crime of this that.

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The other thing I offer a full pardon to Peter Struck. How fun would that be watching these people squirm? I know I didn't do it.

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What? What, what? Yeah. Welcome to the party, pal. We'll be right back.

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Welcome back to the Rush Limbaugh Show. I am Derrick Hunter, sitting in for Rush, who will be back on Monday. Happy Thanksgiving weekend to rush the institution. We'll be back. And one institution that understands and shares the true story of Thanksgiving. This nation is Hillsdale College. It's a college that Rush is especially proud to speak of this Thanksgiving season.

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Rush will be back here on on Monday. I grew up in Michigan and knew all about Hillsdale. I wish I could have gone there. It's open line Friday.

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Let's get some phone calls in. Your Vern in Baltimore has been very patient. Thank you for holding Vern.

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Hey, dear. You're doing great, by the way. Thank you. I'm nervous still, but you're you're the first person to mention the hypocrisy of the AOC and pull yourself up by your bootstraps analogy from a failed bartender to a super famous and soon to be mega millionaire. Right. Prerna, write a book.

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You'll probably be illiterate, but it'll sell a million copies. It's common, I know. And a coloring book. America Sucks and you don't have a chance. That should be the title.

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That really is their message. It's Barack Obama's message. Elizabeth Warren. Elizabeth Warren. What? She grew up on a reservation somewhere in Oklahoma. Now she's a multimillionaire. United States Senator Barack Obama grew up with two parents, neither of whom wanted anything to do with them. Thrown off on the grandkids are the grandparents. And he ends up going to the three of the most elite colleges in the country, in the world, and becomes president of the United States.

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And he's going to tell you the system is rigged against you, but they just think they're so special person.

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That's the thing they can play in America, right?

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Yeah, that's the beauty of America. And that's kind of what they want to destroy.

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I just don't have much care or respect for people who gleefully climb the ladder of success and then pull it up behind them. And that's the way I view Democrats. Bernie, thank you for the phone call.

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We got to take a break here as it winds down the Rush Limbaugh Show. They're going to be right back.

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And the time really does just fly, I guess the terror of white knuckling for three hours behind the golden EIB microphone really makes time fly. I am Derek Hunter.

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You can find me on Twitter at Derik a hunter, the freak, the way the name was meant to be spelled. Don't forget to follow Rush while you're out there at Real R Limbaugh on Twitter.

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I'm in Baltimore from 9:00 until noon. Check that out. The Derek Hunter podcast is a completely different and. Where you can find me five days a week on iTunes or whatever, my book, Outrage Inc., How the Liberal Mob Ruined Science Journalism in Hollywood is available for your bathroom reading. Now, I want to thank a lot of people want to think Rush first and foremost, the amazing that he didn't poo poo this idea. I think his brother David, who's a good friend I want to thank Bo snarkily James Golden for trusting me enough with this.

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I want to thank Connie and Liz for pushing James into listening to me. Want to thank everybody who ever got me into radio and to thank CIBM. I want to thank my dad. Love you, Dad. My mom.

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Miss you, Mom. Have a great weekend. Rush. Are we back here on Monday? Bye bye.