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It was one lie after another lie, after another lie, after another lie. It doesn't make any sense, does it? No. You took my father. You killed my father. Somebody's going to pay for this. My dad was in the hospital. How did he look? Horrible.


Antifreeze poisoning was already suspected, so you were looking pretty specifically for that. No question.


Wives killed their husbands. We see that quite often. This was not a good marriage. She failed her polygraph test. When you.


Discover that somebody else tried to kill your victim and is now out of prison, that changes everything.


It does. Robert sent Raymond a letter bomb.


Did you wonder whether he had anything.


To do with it? Absolutely. It just felt like we were getting swept under.


The rug. Some people would have given up in.


That instance. How could you? It's your father. If your father was murdered, you're not going to give up.


The course of true love takes some strange twists and turns, particularly when it flows out of an online dating site. Occasionally, a cyber fling blossom into a marriage. This is the story of one of those marriages. What went right and what did not. Back in 2002, Ray Katamsky was a 60-year-old, happily retired former corrections officer living comfortably by himself in a house in the Pennsylvania Woods after his 36-year marriage had ended in divorce. Ray had three grown children. Monica is his middle child. Tell me about your dad.


A man's man. He loved outdoor stuff. He loved hunting, fishing. A hard worker. He had a hard of gold.


After his divorce from Monica's mother, Ray was lonely. The next step was as close as his keyboard. So he tried online dating? Yeah. Yeah. Did you make that face when he said he.


Was doing it? Yes, absolutely, I did.


Yes, I did. You said you never know who you're going to wind up with. That's right.




And one day he tells you he.


Met someone else? Well, he just said that he liked her. He was going to get on a few days with her.


The woman Ray met was Theresa Bowers-Lovin'. She lived one state over in Ohio, a 43-year-old nurse's assistant. Theresa had three kids herself: a grown daughter and son and a younger son at home.


I've known her my whole life.


Beth Bertram is a friend of Theresa's who grew up with Theresa's daughter, Sarah. The three women all went to meet Ray on that first date.


She was like, Well, I'm going to go meet him.


Do you guys want to go with me? So what did she think about him? She's like, Oh, I really like this guy. I'm going to see him again. And see him again, she did. Soon, Theresa was driving two hours to be with Ray on weekends. Theresa's son, Josh, was a high schooler when his mom and Ray got together. He made my mom happy.


She definitely hasn't.


Smiled like that in years. What did she like about him? My mom was a big country music fan. I think that was her, Kenny.


Rogers, in.


The making right there. She thought Ray looked like Kenny Rogers. That was.


What we.


Joked with her about, but she definitely thought he was handsome. Things were clearly clicking for Josh's mom and Ray. In May 2004, they got married. Friends and family say Ray couldn't do enough for Theresa, starting with an elaborate wedding. Your dad doted on Theresa. Yes. Spent a lot of money on her. Yes. Did whatever she wanted.


Absolutely. Took her out.


Pampered her. Absolutely. Sounds like he was an old-fashioned gentleman type.


Yes, he was.


It seemed a match made in cyber heaven. The Newlyweds bought a house close to Theresa's family in Astabula County, Ohio. But happily ever after did not last. In October 2006 came a terrible blow. Theresa's daughter was killed in a car crash, leaving her infant daughter and toddler son without a mom. Roy Lovin'r is Teresa's older son and Sarah's brother. She was 21 years old on her way to work one morning, and I guess I'd were playing and squirt and hit a tree. Parents are not supposed to bury their children. No. Then the.


Fact that she had two little babies.


Two little kids, and the fathers were not really in the picture.


Somebody had to.


Step up and take them kids. When that was your mom? She was.


The first one with her hands out, ready and willing to take them.


Theresa and Ray transitioned from the joy of hand them back when they're crying grandparents to the daily grind of surrogate parents to two-year-old and baby Helena. Then not long after Theresa's daughter's death, another body blow. Teresa's granddaughter, Helena, was diagnosed with cancer. Ray Katowski did the right thing. He and Theresa were soon spending alternating weeks at a Cleveland hospital where baby Helena was being treated. Ray even shaved his own head when the little girl lost her hair from the chemo. It sounds like he really bonded.


With Helena. Oh, absolutely, yeah. He had mentioned to a family member that he felt that God put him here exactly that time for a reason, and it was to take care of her.


Helena's cancer went into remission, but Ray and Theresa's relationship suffered collateral damage. According to Theresa's family, the strain of becoming a father again had made Ray toxic. He was, they said, angry and drinking more beer than usual. Mom was scared. So mom couldn't tell him cut back on us drinking. I mean, he was stressed out or something was going on there. Sounds like a pretty unhappy guy. Totally. Ray's family says he was fine and that his drinking was never a problem. But by August 2009, Theresa apparently had enough of Ray. She and the grandchildren moved to an apartment in a nearby town. On Tuesday, August 11th, a few days after she moved out, Theresa and Ray reconciled enough to take the grandkids to lunch and feed the fish at a state park. The following day, Theresa left the children with her friend, Beth, and went back to the house to do laundry. What Theresa said she found when she got there mid-morning was a clearly sick, nearly naked, somewhat incoherent Ray. He refused to let her call a doctor. Theresa told Beth about it.


She said he was.


Acting so.


Weird when she came back.


To get the kids.


And he wasn't feeling good.


The next morning, when she couldn't reach Ray on the phone, Theresa asked her mother, who lived near Ray, to check on him. When Teresa's mom got to the house, she found Ray unconscious. She called Theresa, who alerted 911.


Service, yeah, okay?


No, I need an ambulance. Okay, we're down. It's my husband. All right, I'll send the ambulance. All right, thank you. Theresa phoned Beth and raced to be with Ray. What did she say that happened?


That her mom had found him on the.


Floor naked, unresponsive. The ambulance arrived at the house around the same time as Theresa. Emts scramble to stabilize Ray. Theresa rode with her husband to the nearest hospital. There, an emergency room team struggled to revive him. But whatever ailed Ray, it was too serious a case for the local hospital. He was taken to a level two trauma center in Erie, Pennsylvania, and he was barely clinging to life. A medical crisis, but also a mystery. What had.


Happened to Ray? I didn't know what to think. Nothing was making any sense.


But when investigators look more closely, they find something suspicious. He had those crystals. There was no question. No question. A worried family converged on Hammett Medical Center in Erie, Pennsylvania, on August 13th, 2009. There, in the ICU, Ray Katomky lay deathly ill. Doctors tried to determine what was killing him, and bloodwork told the story. Ray had somehow ingested a toxic dose of ethylene glycol, antifreeze, but it looked as if they had figured it out too late. Even in small amounts, just a few ounces, antifreeze is almost always fatal. Ray's daughter, Monica, was with her dad.


He was just laying in bed.


How did he look?




What were you thinking?


I didn't know what to think because nothing was making any sense.


Ray Katomsky had missed the narrow window in which antifreeze poisoning can be reversed. End-of-life discussions with doctors began. As his wife, it was Theresa's call. Three days after he was admitted to the hospital, Theresa told the doctors to let him go. Her son, Josh, watched Theresa make that agonizing decision. She was devastated. Absolutely devastated.


I could see it in her face.


Hard to do. Ray's death was referred to Dr. Eric Vey, the medical examiner in the Erie County coroner's office. By the time Mr. Ketonsky got to you, antifreeze poisoning was already suspected. So you were looking pretty specifically for that. My job at autopsy was just to confirm the presence of the oxylate crystals in the kidney, which clearly indicated that he had ethylene glycol on board. And he had those crystals. There was no question. No question. Slam dunk. The medical examiner determined that the cause of death was ethylene glycol poisoning, but the manner of death was listed as undetermined. Theresa said Ray told her he drank something sweet around the time he got sick, and antifreeze had a very sweet taste. She also told the ER doctor in the Ohio Hospital that Ray had been threatening to kill himself. It was looking like suicide. Ray's children didn't buy it. What were you thinking?


The only thing I was thinking was I didn't believe the whole, He drank something as sweet it was antifreeze. My dad would never do that. All of us knew that.


And so when Ray Katowski died, the wheels of justice began to slowly spin. Taylor Cleveland was a detective with the Astibula County Sheriff's office.


We received a call from the Erie County Corner's office, and they wanted to give us the earliest heads up that they could that there was probably something in this case, Raymond Katomky's death, that was not natural. Something that was quite possibly a homicide. Right.


If this was homicide, investigators had plenty of work to do. Raymond had been the corrections officer. Yes. And had unquestionably during his career, dealt with some pretty bad guys who were locked up. Yes. Cops started looking into Ray's past to see if someone was settling an old score. Three days after his death, techs processed Theresa and Ray's house as a crime scene, but it had been cleaned by the time they got there. Ray's bedding was in an outside trash can. There were numerous crushed beer and doctor pepper cans, and in the garage, right where you'd expect to find them, were two containers of antifreeze. One sealed, one open. That told investigators nothing because there were no fingerprints or DNA on either container. How long after Raymond died did you speak with Theresa? A couple.


Of days after.


So she had to be a suspect pretty much right from the get-go.


Unfortunately, wives kill their husbands, and we see that quite often. So you have to at least look at her.


Theresa laid out for investigators her actions in the days leading up to Ray's death. She again said she tried to get Ray to seek medical assistance when he first got sick, but he refused. She said Ray had been miserable and unhappy, and she speculated that he killed himself. This was looking like intro to detective work 101. Theresa, the suspect spouse, had means, motive, and opportunity. But when detectives dug deeper into the strange life and times of Theresa and Ray Katamsky, their case took a head-snapping turn in the direction of a totally new suspect. A blast from the past.


This man sent my.


Dad a bomb. Turns out there was someone who tried to kill Ray once before. Ray Katomsky was dead, and his wife, Theresa, believed it was a suicide. But law enforcement thought this smelled like a murder, that someone had poisoned Ray with antifreeze. Detectives looked for his killer. How did he find out? He was a killer. Among the thousands of the worst-of-the-worst criminals that Ray had spent a career guarding in Pennsylvania's maximum security prisons. Raymond was not the corrections officer that all the inmates hated and vowed to get even with once they got outside.


Quite the opposite. That Raymond and the people that Raymond associated with during his time at the prison were generally respected and did not run into a lot of problems with inmates.


So to the cops, it didn't look like anyone from back in the day had it in for Ray. But there was someone from his and Theresa's recent past who had once wanted Ray out of the way, if not dead. Detectives learned that in the winter of 2003, when Ray and Theresa were first getting to know one another, she was also seeing another man she'd met online, a fellow by the name of Robert Rykart, and she left Ray for a few weeks to be with Robert. When Theresa went back to Ray, Robert did not take that well. Not at all.


Robert was infatuated with her and wanted Theresa to leave Ray for him.


Rykurt stalked the couple. He vandalized Theresa's car, and then it really escalated.


Robert sent Raymond a letter bomb.




Real bomb? A real bomb. A functional, working bomb. Raymond went to his mailbox, found a package that looked odd, and brought it to the state police barracks. The bomb squad detonated it.


If Raymond had opened that package, would he have been killed?


He would have been severely injured, if not killed. Robert said at the time that he had wanted to be with Theresa and that he thought that Raymond was in the way.


Ray's daughter, Monica, remembers a phone call from her father about the bomb.


His voice was shaky. It was something I've never heard before.


What'd you say? What'd you think?


I didn't know what to think. At first, I couldn't.


Believe it. Robert Rykard pleaded guilty to manufacturing a firearm and was sentenced to five years in prison. He was paroled just months before Ray Ketovsky became mysteriously ill. Did you wonder whether he had anything to do with it?


Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Theresa was the last one with him, but this man sent my dad a bomb.


Monica wasn't the only one wondering about that. When you discovered that somebody else tried to kill your victim and he's now out of prison, that changes everything.


It does. We had one of two options in this case. Either it was a wife killing her husband or some elaborate plot to finish what Mr. Rykard had started and was unsuccessful with.


Detectives tracked down their new suspect.


He was living what appeared to be a normal wife in Western Pennsylvania.


Could you track Mr. Reichard's movements?


He was not on GPS monitoring at the time, no.


So if he was going to see Theresa or if he was going to stalk Raymond, nobody would have known about it?


It would be a fair assessment.


He certainly would have had access to antifreeze.


Everybody has access to antifreeze.


While detectives were trying to find out if Theresa's ex-boyfriend turned letter bomber had anything to do with Ray's death, they dug deeper into Theresa's past. But the investigation went slowly, weeks became months, and Ray's family counted the days.


It just felt like we were getting swept under.


The rug. Some people would have given up.


In that instance. Oh, how could you? It's your father. If your father was murdered, you're not going to give up.


So what did you do?


I pressed on. I did what I had to do. I made sure that there was justice.


That was easier said than done. Hard times were coming to Ashdebulla County. In America, our do-it-yourself culture extends even to killing. There are nearly 50,000 suicides each year in the United States. Far more than the number of homicides. And that was the issue. There wasn't any question what killed Ray Katamsky. That was antifrays. But by whose hand? Ray's widow, Theresa, and her family maintained a despondent Ray killed himself when Theresa left him. Ray's children and the cops thought it was murder. Two theories, and if murder, two possible suspects. Theresa, the grieving wife, and Theresa's fresh-from-the-slammer ex-boyfriend who'd once tried to mail Bomb Ray out of the way. But his story was checking out.


We just couldn't find anything other than his prior association with Raymond that would suggest that he did this.


We're going to vibe get off Mr. Reichert after Raymond Katomky's death?


The last thing that he said to me was, That could have been me. He looked concerned. He looked like somebody dodged a bullet.


I'm guessing now she and Robert Reichert changed places in the suspect pantheon.


Hundred %.


She's at the top of the list. Yes. But the investigation into the death of Ray Katomky was about to turn as cold as ash to the county in February for a very odd reason.


Shortly after this case was investigated by our department, there was a financial collapse, and we laid off about 90 % of our officers.


The county what, ran out of money?




And the result was….


Murderers were not getting solved.


Ray Katovsky's case was one of them. His children were not happy.


I wasn't trying to be a pandobot. I didn't want them to drop the case.


Then the county runs out of money. Yeah. I mean, all kinds of things go wrong in murder investigations, but the police department running out of money is usually not one of the things you think of.




For almost two years, nothing happened. Yeah. Monica's two children were out of the house. She was able to take time off from helping her husband with his construction business and devote hours to her mission.


I sent letters to everybody, and I was constantly calling the sheriff department for new information and whatnot, but I was getting anywhere.


Meanwhile, back in Ashtebula County, life went on. What was Theresa doing during those 18 months that you weren't able to investigate?


Just filing for life insurance. Collecting life insurance from Raymond Katowski.


Some of the $150,000 in insurance went to buy a house where Theresa was raising her grandchildren. About a year after Ray's death, there was a new man in her life. Tim Schoemaker was an over-the-road trucker when he and Theresa found each other. How did you and Theresa mean? On the internet. What did you like about her? She was a tentive, just a sweet lady. Before long, Tim and Theresa were living together. Tim gave up long-distance trucking for a job closer to home. She tell you she was a suspect in a murder investigation? She told me. And she said, I didn't do it. I didn't have anything to do with it. She didn't have to say that she didn't do it. I knew she didn't do it. Astibula County's investigation may have been frozen in red ink, but Ray's daughter, Monica, was still in action. E-mailing, cajoling, pleading.


I wrote letters to the Ohio Attorney General. Then I got a phone call, and they said they were looking into it.


Then Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine had recently started a cold case unit. In September 2012, three years after Ray Ketonsky's death, the state reopened the case with Theresa, the prime suspect. I didn't want her to get away with murder. My prosecutors and detectives didn't want to see that happen either. Those investigators were glad to be back in business. There were reasons they liked Theresa for Ray's murder. One had to do with a story they heard about her first marriage.


Her previous husband, Roy Levin, told us that Theresa had put rat poison in his mashed potatoes.


And he knew that how?


Roy said that he took two bites and fed some to their son. Theresa reached into her son's mouth, pulled out the mashed potatoes, Roy said that he got pretty ill after that.


The son was okay?


Son was okay, yes. Roy said that the only other thought that he gave then was when his German Shepherd was poisoned. Roy said he never connected the two until Raymond was poisoned.


Theresa's son from that first marriage is Roy Jr, and he says that never happened. There's a story out there that your mom tried to poison your father.


It's all lies.


Why would your father lie about this? Maybe he.






Maybe he.


Feels that she ruined his life. I don't know. Maybe this is his way of getting back at her. And there was a polygraph exam she took early in the investigation. The examiner had asked Theresa two questions. Did you poison Ray with antifreeze? And do you know who poisoned Ray? Theresa's answer to both, No, which was also the answer to whether Theresa was telling the truth.


She failed her test.


That lie detector failure was admissible in court, but it helped convince cops they were on the right track. They turned the heat back up on Theresa. Theresa's family and friends like Beth Bertram rallied around her. They felt Ray's family just wouldn't or couldn't face the fact that he killed himself. I think they don't want.


To believe that Ray would do that.




Really do.


You think they're just looking for somebody to blame?


Yeah, other.


Than Ray. But on March 28th, 2014, five years after Ray's death, officers surrounded Theresa's house.


We knocked on the door early in the morning, told Theresa that we had a warrant for arrest and she was under arrest for the murder of Ray Mcotowski. She didn't look surprised.


She kissed me and she was going to… She's almost started balling, but something got come over and she was okay.


I was crazy happy. It was like, Wow, we finally got somewhere.


After a few days in jail, Theresa was released on bond. Law enforcement officials knew the case had problems. Ray's family received a depressingly realistic appraisal from the attorney general's office. We told them all along, This is going to be a tough case. Be prepared. Be prepared for a loss. We might not win this. We might not win this case. Proof Theresa is innocent or proof of the perfect crime? Did you find any DNA on the part of Mrs.


Kutupski? No, we found no DNA.


And you found no fingerprints, correct?


That's correct.


It was July of 2015, almost six years after Ray Katamsky's death, when his wife, Theresa, went on trial. There were two charges, contaminating a substance for human consumption and murder. Both part of the accusation that Theresa poisoned Ray with antifreeze by somehow slipping it into something he ate or drank, like beer or soda. Theresa's lawyer, veteran trial attorney Paul Henterman, was confident. There's no question in my view she was absolutely innocent of the crime. Prosecutors offered Theresa plea deals, which would have resulted in little jail time. She was absolutely categorically convinced that she did not commit the crime, and she felt that God was in her corner and she was not going to be convicted of any crime. She did nothing wrong. Another twist. Attorney Henterman asked for a bench trial. No jury. Judge Gary Yost would alone rule on Theresa's guilt or innocence: if she killed Ray or if he killed himself. In her opening statement, prosecutor Emily Pelfrey attacked that idea.


He was planning.


For his future.




Loved his grandchildren. The doctor who treated Ray in the hospital where he died testified, Theresa herself said Ray was not suicidal.


She had indicated that he had not mentioned anything about feeling suicidal at that time.


No, the state argued this was murder. Medical examiner Dr. Eric Ray testified that antifreeze killed Ray. He died as a result of complications of ethylene glycol toxicity. But exactly how antifreeze kills was critical to the state's case. When somebody ingests antifreeze either deliberately or because somebody else gave it to them, what's the progression of symptoms? Well, initially, they'll appear to be drunk or stuporous, and then they'll become progressively lethargic and then become comatose. Then they'll start to have congestive heart failure and pulmonary edema, and then they'll start to go into renal failure and then eventually die. You can estimate when they ingested the antifreeze based on where their symptoms are at that point. That's exactly right.


It's possible.


To get a rough estimate of when the ingestion occurred. The keystone of the state's case was the progression of symptoms that prosecutors contended would show when Ray ingested the antifreeze. You were able to establish a timeline. When the EMS arrived at his residence, he was already lethargic and almost comatose. We already know from his clinical presentation at that point that he's probably 12 to 24 hours in. The ME's estimate dovetailed with the prosecutor's timeline that Ray must have ingested the antifreeze the day he and Theresa took that outing with the grandchildren. To support their timeline, prosecutors introduced this voicemail. Ray left it for a friend several hours after the state says Theresa poisoned him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. On the tape, the prosecution argued, Ray sounds drunk. I can tell you I think you're a nice person. You can call me back if you can. Okay, perfect. Prosecutors say he was really in the stuporous early stages of antifreeze poisoning. We contend that that's when the ethylglyconine or the antifreeze was ingested. They argued it had to have been Theresa who gave it to him because no one else was with Ray then.


How did they know that? Well, from what she told this FBI agent. She stated that over that week, he did not.


Have any visitors and she was the only one there.


In addition to their science-based timeline that put Theresa in the bullseye, the state wanted Judge Yost to consider Theresa's behavior while Ray was dying. In the gallery, Monica wept as her younger sister, Kimberly, testified how Theresa ended life support for their father without consulting Ray's side of the family and the term she said Theresa dictated for releasing Ray's body to her. The conditions were that I had to have him cremated and that she wanted to make sure I wouldn't be the beneficiary. It was all part of a pattern, prosecutors argued, that added up to murder. The state intends there is absolutely no evidence that it is all reasonable to conclude that anyone other than the defendant, Mrs. Ketomky, is the one who provided that antifreeze to her husband. When the defense had its turn, attorney Henterman told the judge the state had no case, not a scrap of evidence. He got the FBI agent who took Theresa's initial statement to concede she may have been confused about whether she was even with Ray on the day the state says she poisoned him. She may have been wrong about that, correct?


She could have been wrong about that.


This was suicide, he argued, not murder. And what practically proved it, according to the defense, was the fact that Ray did nothing to save himself. One can conclude that if someone gave you poison and you became ill, what would be the first thing you would do? You would call the police or you would call a hospital. That never occurred. Henterman then attacked the state's most glaring weakness, a total lack of physical evidence connecting his client to containers of antifreeze. Beer cans and a half. Lead Detective Taylor Cleveland was cross-examined about the absence of any forensics. Did you find any DNA on the part of Mrs. Ketovsky?


No, we found no DNA, Mr. Ketonsky or otherwise.


And you found no fingerprints of Mrs. Ketonsky on the can, correct?


That's correct.


Theresa's attorney went after the prosecution's timeline. He got one of the state's medical witnesses to concede. She couldn't tell exactly when Ray drank the antifreeze. But you don't know how long that he suffered from it, nor do you know how much he had ingested. Correct. Under cross-examination, the ME admitted he couldn't answer the question at the heart of the case. That means you don't know whether it was a homicide or you don't know whether it was a suicide. Is that a fair correct? That is correct, yes. Hederman produced his own expert witness to refute the state's toxicity timeline as suspect science.




Impossible to determine when the ethylene glycol may have been ingested because it may have been ingested as one dose at one time, or several smaller dose over an undetermined period of time.


In his close, attorney Henterman suggested all of it amounted to, at the very least, reasonable doubt. I'm suggesting to you that it's a suicide, and if the facts don't add up, then you have to rule in favor of the defendant. Theresa never testified. Her family and Ray's waited, as Judge Yost retired to his chambers to make his decision. Stuck in a bad marriage, most people swallow only their pride. It turns out they're the lucky ones. Thursday, July 30th, 2015, judgment day in Ashtibula County. Judge Gary Yost had reached his decision. The families of accused murderer Theresa Katamsky and her dead husband, Ray, made their way to the courthouse.


By the time I got to the courthouse, my whole body was literally shaking. I was so afraid I worked up to that. Almost six years. I was so afraid that she was going to get away with it.


It looked as if Ray's daughter's fears were justified.


The court finds the defendant, Theresa Katamsky, not guilty of contaminating a substance.


For human consumption. The judge reads the first count, tampering with food. Yeah. Not guilty. Mm-hmm. And you think.


Well, that's it. Yeah, we're done. She got away with it.


It's a moment Monica will look back on for the rest of her life. Were you looking at Theresa?




And thinking what?


I had hate. I did.


Judge reads the second count. The court finds that the state has proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the.


Defendant, Theresa Katomky, is the person who administered the antifreeze to.


Raymond Katomky. The court finds.




Defendant guilty of murder. Ms. Katomky, do you wish to make.


A statement at this time?


Your Honor, I.


Want you to know I did not hurt my husband. I did not give him poison. I did not give him anything to harm him at all. I loved my husband. I swear before God, I never, ever would hurt.




Especially my husband. The sentence was mandatory. She is an indefinite term of imprisonment of.


15 years.


To life. I love her and I want to be with her. I have faith in her. I don't think she's guilty. Tim Schoemaker, Theresa's boyfriend, is standing by his woman. Not long after Theresa began serving her sentence. Tim asked her to marry him. Theresa said yes. You meet this woman. She's already a suspect in a murder investigation, and then she's arrested. She's arrested, and tried and convicted. You could find somebody who wasn't locked up. But you don't want anybody else. You want her. Yeah, I want her. Why is that? Because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. I'd think she's an awesome woman. She's everything that a man looks for in a woman. While we were talking with Tim, he got a call. She went into details. Can I get it? Yeah, I think… It was Theresa calling from behind bars. She and Tim caught up for a few minutes, and then he put her on speaker. Hi, Theresa. It's Josh Manco. It's from Dayline. Hi. Hi, how are you? Could be better, could be worse. I understand you and Tim are engaged. Yes, we are. Have you been awesome.


Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Is there anything you want to say? Well, I just want everybody to know that I'm innocent. I didn't.


Do what.


They're accusing me of doing. I loved my husband.


Someday we'll.


Know why he did what he did. You think he killed himself deliberately? I think it was an accidental suicide. I think he took in that antifreeze enough to make himself sick and called me out there, thinking that I would feel sorry for him because that's the type of person I am. This call is originating from an Ohio Correctional Facility. I just want to be clear. You think Ray took the antifreeze deliberately to make himself sick and get you to come back to him? Yes. I believe that.


His intentions were.


To get.


Me to come back.


You think you'll be out of there one day?


I believe I'm going to be out of here.


I believe that the truth is going to set me free. I'm hoping.


That somebody.


Really goes over this and finds out that I had no part of that because they have no evidence on me. They have none because there's no evidence there. I love you. We're going to get cut off, babe. Thank you for using. You're more than happy. Yeah, we get cut off. Okay, well, thank you for letting us talk to her. We wanted to interview Theresa in person, but our request was denied by the Department of Corrections. Theresa's hypothesis that Ray took antifreeze so she'd come back to him, is one that her family and friends to a person are on board with. They see Theresa as a decent person who somehow attracts men who, through no fault of hers, become obsessed with her. Let me make sure I understand. One guy, Mr. Reichard, wants to kill to have Theresa. Another guy, Roy, makes up a story that she's a murderer because he doesn't want anybody else to have her. Ray tries to kill himself to get her to come back. Have I got that about right? Yeah. Do you know anybody else around here who leads that life and who drives men to do those things? No.


Not at all.


What's her secret?


I have no idea.


I think she's just a good woman. That's pretty much the opposite of what Ray's daughter Monica thinks. For her, this was all very personal.


This was my dad. This was justice. This is the way it should be. You killed my father. Somebody's going to pay for this. Damn well, right, she's going to.