Hi, this is Tig, I talked to Andrew Yang for this episode a few weeks ago. Later that same day, something terrible happened. Eight people, including six Asian women, were shot and killed in Atlanta. Andrew tweeted after it happened saying, quote, This is terrible. My heart goes out to the victims of the Atlanta shootings and their families. They never harmed a soul. He also said, quote, Racism is dehumanizing. I couldn't agree more.

Thank you for spending your time with us. And here's my conversation with Andrew. There's other Tiggs out there in the world, I can't pretend like I'm the only one. Fascinating. You are the only BTIG I think of. Frankly, there are a lot of people with the surname Yang and I have actually met half a dozen. Andrew Yang.

No, really? Oh, yeah. Like you're running for president. I would be like I had any idea whether they busted their driver's licenses. I'd be like, that's great that we take a picture together. I mean, I don't know. People know this, but yeah, there are a lot of us.

We are not. Nobody, so everybody goes. It. Yeah, this is Don't Ask Tig, I'm Tig Notaro and I don't have all the answers, I might not even have any answers today. We're so pleased to welcome to the show, entrepreneur, author, former 2020 candidate for U.S. president and current New York City mayor, hopeful Andrew Young. Andrew, welcome.

Take you for having me. I'm such a huge fan and admirer of yours, and I can give flawed advice with the best of them.

Maybe they'll be some good advice in there, too.

Well, that's every show for me. I stumble upon what ends up being a surprise, good piece of advice. And then I stumble upon a surprisingly and actually maybe not so surprisingly bad piece of advice. But it's all earnest and a lot of times nonsensical.

I like the format, Tig, because there've been so many times when you get asked a question and you answer it and you say something you didn't even know you thought mean, but you only only say it because someone put you on the spot.

Yeah, well, that's what every every piece of advice is, is me put on the spot and my guess so thanks for being a part of that.

So yeah, like I mentioned, you're running for mayor of New York and you ran for president last year. Is your measure for success in a campaign actually getting elected or is it possible to have a successful campaign that doesn't end with winning?

I think it depends on the campaign. So for me, my presidential campaign, any time someone, let's call them a journalist, asked me like, hey, do you really think you can win? Then you have to say, of course, I think I can win. Because if you ever say like, no, not really. That they'd be like, oh, you know, the rest of it. But I think early on someone interviewed me and I was like, well, there are different versions of victory.

Yeah. And so for me in the presidential, it was can I accelerate at the end of poverty?

Can I mainstream the universal basic income and other ways to humanize the economy? Can I bring to light the fact that our economy is transforming because of technology and other forces? So I felt it was incredibly successful, despite the fact that I'm obviously not the president. You did really well, though.

It's really exciting to watch.

Oh, thank you. I really appreciate it. I will say for the mayoral campaign, I will be very, very displeased if I do not win in the sense that this is not like a Pyrrhic victory, spiritual victory type of race. This is the plan is to try and do as much good as I can for the greatest city in the world. And I want this job not because I think it's going to be an easy job. I think it's going to be a very challenging job.

But I think I can do a better job than others could of getting our city back on its feet. So I'm running to win.

Well, I'm excited for you. I think a lot of people definitely feel like there's a lot of work to be done in the city. And I have faith in you, Andrew. Oh, thank you, Tig.

I love this city dearly. I showed up as a twenty one year old student and I've had the kind of career that twenty one year old version of me could never have even dreamt of. Like it wasn't even like, oh, I accomplished my dream. It's like I would never have known to dream.

That's how I feel about my career. I moment when people say, Oh, did your dreams come true? I'm like beyond there is no part of me dreaming that this would be the life that I would have.

And at least for me, New York City made it all possible. So I'm really going to do everything I can to make it so that the city does the same thing for my kids and other people's kids.

That's great. In our respective professional worlds of stand up and politics. Andrew, we both know how clear communication is an absolute non-negotiable. You are truly gifted at getting really complicated ideas across to people. What is your secret?

I think the way that I translate ideas myself is a relatively simple, straightforward terms. And then when I communicate it to someone else is just how I grew to understand it myself. Oh, yeah.

For someone to understand you, I think you have to try and translate it into experiences that they can relate to. And that's something that I try to do and I hope I succeed at least some of the time.

Well, you did it perfectly in that description. Oh, well, thank you, Tig. Yeah, there you go.

I will I will unpack this a little bit.

I was a very nerdy bookworm kid growing up in upstate New York. And then I tried desperately to fit in when I got a little bit older. And so I think that there were a couple of different ways of communicating and expressing oneself that I developed when I was young in the seventies and eighties in that town in upstate New York.

Nice. What town is it? Well, I was. Born in a town called Schenectady, which is upstate close to Albany, and then I grew up in a town called Soma's, which is a little bit more than an hour north of New York City. OK, so so the second one is not upstate. It's like I kind of pushed them together because I was born truly upstate.

I mean, Buffalo is considered upstate, right?

Yes. But Buffalo is way off to the west. Like, I actually think if you think upstate New York, you're thinking of something along the Albany, Schenectady area. And then when you go west, you wind up in Rochester and Buffalo.

Well, yeah, I've always been confused by it because my wife spent part of her childhood in Buffalo. And to me, you know, looking at a map, I'm like, well, that seems upstate, but I perform there pretty regularly.

And I'm I'm curious, actually, what you think of Buffalo and Buffalo is maybe the most awesome place that I have yet to visit, which is something that I'm self-conscious about because I've been to a lot of places.

You haven't been to Buffalo, Adapazari, Buffalo, because there's so many people I know who love you, who love the bills. I have a soft spot for the Bills Mafia, but I have yet to go myself.

Wow. I yeah, I go there every year and tell jokes and I love it. And my wife hasn't been back since she was a kid and she has this other idea of what the city is compared to what it is now and how much it's really begun to come back and become this hip area. And people people are surprised to hear it. But it's it's a cool city.

You have to brigger next time you go there and you have to be like, come on with me and then I try.

We can try, but somebody has to stay home with our two cubs. But yeah, I was just curious what you thought of it being a New York guy.

Speaking of New York guys, there's another Andrew in New York politics who's been in the news lately. And do you care to comment on that situation?

I think that he should step aside and let Lieutenant Governor Hochul take over, at least while he's trying to deal with the various allegations against him, because it's a hard time for New York State. It's going to be, frankly, impossible for someone to govern under the circumstances that he's facing.

Yeah, you need someone who's laser focused on the issues of the day. And if it's not going to be him, it should be the lieutenant governor who by all accounts, a lot of people think very well of. And it would be delightful to have the first woman governor in New York state's history, albeit under circumstances that no one would have wished.

Right? Yeah, it does feel like it's it's a little too messy for him to be hanging out in that position for much longer. Do you think it's likely that he'll step aside? My read on it is that he does not seem like the type to step aside. Yeah, but you never know with individuals. I mean, they can wake up one day. Yeah. And make a decision that might be different than the one they made the day before.

Right. All right. Well, thank you for the insight. We're going to move on to our questions that people definitely will need your insight for. Are you ready for it?

Yeah, sure thing, BTIG. All right.

This is the first question coming from mom of a free butler. As a mom of two little boys, I need some advice. My five year old refuses to wear any type of underwear. We've tried boxers, boxer briefs, briefs, Calvin Klein under armor, you name it. We've bought it. What the heck can I do to make this boy wear some Monday's well?

So first, let me just ask you said you had cubs at home. How old are they? Are they comparable in age to to the football or mom?

Yeah, they're they're four and a half. And we've kind of run into this, especially in the pandemic. Things have gotten a little casual, but I happen to be right in the middle of this situation. And my sons have become beyond obsessed with baseball. They play all day long.

They draw the baseball diamond, the know the logos or the logos.

That's one of each team. They're just truly obsessed. So I went and got them some underwear with baseball players on the underwear and that works.

This is some great advice.

BTIG, I need you to understand I'm not exaggerating this. I'm in the process of washing their new underwear today. In fact, I asked Stephanie to put it in the dryer for when I was doing my show. So they're getting their new underwear tonight to wear to bed. So that's the advice I can give, is find their interest and get the interest on the underwear. What do you say, Andrew?

The first word that came to mind for me to say was bribery. What can I give you that will have you wear these tidy whities for the day? And in my case, because I have a five year old and an eight year old and the five year old is very, very pliable with chocolate.

So, so so if I'm trying to get him to do something and it's not working, I would just be like, I'll give you a chocolate if you do this. And then he'll become very, very interested. So at least for me, I would say, where are these tidy whities? At the end of the day, you get a chocolate beginning the day you get a chocolate. It would cost me approximately two chocolates to change his habits, I believe.

I don't know if that's good parenting. I don't know if that would work on her children. But that is the word that came to my mind, was bribery.

And how big of a piece of chocolate are we talking about, Andrew? Are we talking, like, a little square? Yes.

Like, OK, so there's something called the Trader Joe's Advent calendar that has little pieces of chocolate behind little doors. Yes. And so we let him open the door and then grab a chocolate. And if he does, in the beginning of the day, at the end of the day, then we can get him to do all sorts of stuff.

I'm yeah, I listen, we have I don't even know what the brand is, but some sort of dark chocolate that we keep in our freezer. And when there's a special moment, we haven't used it to bribe, I don't think yet, but we're not opposed to to doing anything that it takes to make stuff happen at our house.

I have no idea of what I just said was bad parenting advice for some psychological reason I'm unaware of.

But but that was what came to my mind.

If it means getting underwear on a kid, how bad could it be? Right.

Well, you hope that the underwear is just a habit and then maybe the chocolate can graduate to something else. Yeah, I've no idea if this advice is excellent or not.

We're we're not looking for excellent advice, for just looking for advice. And also, we can always point back to the title of the show, Don't Ask too. OK, that gets us out of everything.

Andrew So mom of a free baller, we hope your five year old will see the error of his ways right back and let us know how that works.

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Yeah, no I'm not OK. That's how I feel sometimes. And that's also the name of a new podcast from L.A. studios.

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This question comes from Chris. Chris writes, I am autistic and very much introverted, which is why I often find myself easily exhausted by engaging in conversations or by any human contact. Really, it happens to me quite frequently that I'm slightly annoyed by interactions that my partner, who I'm living with, initiates. How do I tell her I need much more space for myself and my thoughts than an average person without it sounding too harsh? Do you have any initial thoughts or feelings based on experience?

I do, and it's based both on being the father of an autistic child who tends to not be very social, but but also as someone who again grew up myself, very introverted and bookish, who wound up doing the most extroverted thing one can imagine, which is run for political office. My gosh.

And so what happened with me was that my extraversion circuits would get completely blown out in any given day or week. And then I would come home and I'd be a zombie. And so my wife, being a rock star and supportive, actually understood that, OK, I wasn't going to be in position to entertain, to socialize, to be someone who is going to hold up my end of a fairly normal standard conversation that I was back.

So so this is something I can relate to. I can relate to this question or the issue is how to communicate it to your partner in a way that would help them. And I'm going to suggest a book that I think might really, really help either her or both of you. It's called Quiet by Susan Kane. It's about how introverts get depleted by certain types of social interactions. And it was a book that helped us understand our child better. And then it also, in my case, helped me understand myself better.

And I think that my wife's ability to accommodate my needs during the presidential campaign were actually born of the fact that she read this book. So quiet, Susan Kane. It's an incredible book and it's given rise to an entire movement around people who are introverted and require a degree of alone time in order to recharge.

That's really helpful. And whenever I see footage of presidents or candidates running for office and just constantly greeting and talking to people and shaking hands and taking pictures, I mean, how do you bounce back from that or even make it through that?

I would be out day one for me to it is uplifting and still surprising. It's funny, I haven't been a public figure for that long, but if I go out as I went out this morning to Queens, when people see me, they're generally really excited to see me. Yeah. Which is very touching. And so I'm touched by it. And so it lifts my spirits and makes me happier. So that's one aspect of it, is that I don't feel it to be really any kind of drain or chore because folks are positive.

And so, like, I reflect their positivity. But on the flip side, when I'm on my own, like I often do completely end up unplugging or being alone with my thoughts, exercising, trying to do some kind of meditation or self care mindfulness. And if I don't do that over an extended period of time, I do kind of Fritze a bit. So it's something that requires a degree of maintenance. And I'm happy to say both my family and my team kind of understand this about me.

That's great advice to recharge in those ways before you get back out there, because there's plenty of people that don't enjoy my comedy. But for those that do, they're very positive and happy to see me. But sometimes in ways I haven't had time to recharge if I'm traveling or in between shows or gigs.

And it's just it's a trick everyone's thrilled to see you take.

I just know I'm not for everyone, but it is it's good for me to remember to recharge when I can, whether it's on a walk or just hanging out and staring at the grass grow.

You know, the single best source of replenishment is nature. And that's not just me. That's the science. Like, if you are exposed to sun, grass and a. Feels like all of that stuff is very rejuvenating, a million percent, yes, but thank you for that book recommendation. I'm sure Chris is going to be thrilled to have this if they don't already. And Chris, asking for what you need is never easy, but it's always worth it.

All right. Our next question comes from Austin.

So for a couple of years now, about every other day, I've been going to the same coffee shop and I love them. They're great people. They are great coffee. And especially this one barista every time I go in just gets really excited. It's like, hey, Andrew, how have you been, man? And we get to talking and it's just like the perfect way to start the day, just like someone really excited to see you. The problem is that my name's not Andrew Austin.

Now, it's been a few years. Pretty clear that that's just what he thinks my name is.

And I don't know how to broach the subject or if I should broach the subject, if I should say, like, hey, that's not my name. I feel like it might be embarrassing at this point for him and me. I would love any insights. All right.

I have I have feelings about this. I feel like, first of all, this is hilarious. Second of all, I think that as embarrassing as you think it may be, everybody will live through it. It's not the worst moment of embarrassment that you or this wonderful barista will ever experience in your life. And so I think like comedy and so many things in life, it's all in the delivery. And so since this person seems to be such an open, friendly guy, then maybe just approach the counter when there's not a lot of people or wait till there's nobody there and just lean over and say, I just want to tell you how great you make me feel whenever I come in to your shop.

It really makes my day. And I just want to tell you an interesting little bit of information about myself. And it's that my name is actually Austin. I experience this once with somebody that was hired to do work at my house and I was yelling the wrong name.

I'd be like, Hey, how's it going? And say the wrong name. Hey, do you want some water? Wrong name. And then I think a year and he finally just said, My name is not Fernando. And I had a good laugh and a very true apology, but he didn't care. Andrew, what's your feeling?

I agree that as long as you lead with the look, you make my day. I'm so happy to see you all the time. You're one of the reasons why this has become such a big part of my routine in my life. I just want to let you know that my name is Austin. You probably just written down like some. Yeah, some scrolling when you said it. I should have corrected you earlier. I just started to feel self-conscious, but just wanted to let you know how grateful I am for the work you do every day and what you mean.

I think that is the best way. And no, no sane person would think anything of it after that, especially if you were to be so warm about it.

Your other option is just to be Andrew forever or have a friend come in with you and call you Austin in front of the barista and then hope the but, you know, he's probably not even really going to notice. Possibly.

I did occur to me, too, is that you have some people be like, hey, Austin, this place really is great, but there's no way to do that without seeming really obvious and heavy handed, in my opinion.

Oh, I have another idea. If you know his name, maybe you could call him something. Obviously not his name. If you said, Hey, Benjamin Franklin or Hey Bert, something that you feel confident is not his name.

Hey, Bird. Hey, Maggie.

Lou. Something you know for sure. And then he would look at you like you're insane. And then again, that is.

Yeah, I know. This seems like it'd be like harsh harshad correction in my view. I just want to share something because I can relate to an aspect of this. I was a very shy, conscientious kid and when I thought I'd screwed up in some social context, I would just berate myself afterwards for like days and days and like, oh, I can't believe I did that. I can't believe I did that. And being able to let that go became such a huge part of my being able to push myself into all sorts of situations.

So while you feel embarrassed. The fact that you've been having these exchanges you have with this person, I really think it's going to be liberating for you, just as BTIG saying, just try and approach it in a lighthearted way, because really no one's done anything wrong here.

And I bet it'll even make for a tighter connection with this person that brightens your day every morning because you'll have that little funny blip in your relationship. But Austin, I'm not saying Andrew isn't a fine name, because, let's be honest, it's it's pretty stellar.

And I mean, I thought I was like, yeah, but you do deserve to be called by your actual name if you want it, but be called by your name.

Andrew, this is our last question, and it comes from Sarah. Sarah writes, Although this seems churlish, people around me seem to pick up and use a lot of my catchphrases and quips and then I think or feel like I don't want to use the phrases again, this is in emails, texts, social media, etc. These phrases feel connected to my identity. So at times it stings a bit. Any advice?

Wow. I think that you should feel great about yourself, that you're so witty and creative that people are actually using your catchphrases and witticisms, and that's really stellar.

I think the main thing you have to do is just document first usage like when you it and just have a time stamp and be like, look, this is, you know, TIG ism or an aneurysm or whatever it is. And then when the people around you start using it, you'd be like, I'm so glad you're using this term. I came up with X weeks and months ago time thing, and then you can make a joke about them paying your royalties and the rest of it.

So instead of feeling like it's being usurped from you, you could feel like everyone's cribbing off of you and paying homage to your wit and originality.

Yeah, time stamp it and also hashtag it. Just hashtag first time ever said. And please enjoy using this from here on out or hashtag first time ever said, don't ever use this. This is mine if you really want to be greedy about it, but. Say things that I've said, I always say, glad you're enjoying that, make sure to give me credit.

Does this happen to you a lot in comedy? Tig Because I confess it happens to be an awful lot in politics. Like say something I did X days or weeks later, some other candidate Will Perrottet. I'll be like, cool if you're doing it, but you might want to say, like, as my colleague Andrew said.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying is I always I always try and keep it lighthearted or a lot of times they'll even say, oh, I'm going to start using that. And then I immediately say, give me credit.

Well, I feel like for comedians, they're like very, very strict rules around this stuff. Right? I mean, like, if you have a joke that you like, it has to be yours and no one else can use there. Isn't that some kind of crazy violation?

It's for sure a violation. But there is a tricky element to being a comedian in that you're making a lot of observations that sadly, you're not the only one to make the observation a lot of times. And that's not to say that people aren't stealing material. But I know for myself, I've told jokes on stage where when I got off, somebody has said, hey, you know, George Carlin said something similar to that, or there's this local comedian that has something like that and immediately I'll drop it.

But that's really usually observational comedy. Whereas if you come from a really personal place, nobody can steal that. Nobody's going to have the same experience. That's true.

No one's been through what you've been through and you in particular to.

Yeah, I mean, all of us, everyone alive. If if what you're delivering and sharing is from the most personal place, it's the most personal story. And that's not to say it has to be personal in the way that I did it in comedy of sharing about my mother's death or my illnesses and cancer and everything like that. That's very personal. But if it's just personal in your experience, it's less likely that somebody is going to be able to take the story and and run.

Andrew, before we head out, a serious question here. Do you have a do you have a catchphrase that people steal or that you don't want people to steal?

Well, heck, I mean, the thing I'm best known for is universal basic income, which now a majority of Americans are for, in part because we're living a version of it. I mean, I think we're in our third stimulus check. Yeah. And shocker, people like getting these checks that it makes people healthier, more positive, more optimistic, more trusting, more mentally healthy. It even improves relationships. And everything I've just said is documented by many studies.

And I think a lot of the fear is that it would, you know, make people not want to actually go back to work. And I think the studies have shown that that's not the case at all.

Yeah, there's there actually other stories that have been documented where someone had a part time job and they got a bit of cash and the cash enabled them to apply for a full time job that ended up paying them more and improves their situation. So hopefully we can do things like that here in the city of New York. This city is hurting right now. It's badly wounded. But I think that we can be smarter and more humane about the solutions we're implementing and try and get people back on their feet.

I think that you're going to do a tremendous job. I'm so, so excited to see all this unfold.

Well, thank you. Take I've got a vision. New York City is back and open for business. And you come with your wife and your boys and you have a big show and you're part of our great reopening. What do you think?

I'm all in Sarah. Here's hoping you get some credit for your catchphrases. All right, Andrew.

That's it for listener questions. But I have one last thing to ask you before you go. What is the best advice anyone has ever shared with you?

Early in my career, someone said to me, try and find the person in your organization whose life that you want for yourself, not just career, but life, and then follow that person, because if you're around that person, you will end up learning from them in ways both professional and personal. And then the corollary to that was, if there is no one in your organization whose life you want, then you need to try and find another organization or a job or opportunity.

You don't need to do it today, but you should try and do it eventually. And that advice really stuck with me where I at the time was an unhappy attorney here in New York. City and I looked around and there were many admirable people in that firm, but I did not aspire to the paths that they had taken successfully. And so I ended up leaving, starting a business that did not work out, but it led me down to a completely different path and I never looked back.

So I'm grateful to that person for that advice, to say try and find a person whose life that you want and then follow them. That's so cool.

I love that and makes me want to really sit back and think who is the person? Because I know there's bits and pieces from different people that I've looked to or tried to emulate, but I'm wondering if there's kind of an all encompassing person and is that kind of what it takes or do you just take bits and pieces from wherever you can get it?

I think in your field it's certainly bits and pieces. And for me, too, as I got more experienced, I think it also is taking from different folks that you encounter and are uplifted by or you know, that they're excellent in a way that you want to be.

But I think I think given what you do, it ends up being a constellation. Yeah. Because I have a sense of the creative process that you undergo and you're around so many other really talented people. It's one reason why I really enjoy the kind of camaraderie that so many comedians share is that you all it's like you like take stuff from each other, but you all the kind of bounce things off of each other and end up feeling each other creatively.

Yeah, I really honestly hadn't fully thought how similar comedy and politics were until I was sitting here talking to you today.

Taig, I not kidding. Imagine showing up to that small bar or event in New Hampshire and Iowa and then just people are there and they give you half an hour. Forty five minutes of their time. And your goal is to try to touch them and reach them and inspire them and move them in some way and then just keep doing it day after day.

And you hope that the groups get a little bit bigger and that someone, you know, decides to tell their friends like it. Like the similarities are uncanny in some ways.

Wow. Yeah, it's fascinating. I truly had never thought of it. Well, Andrew, thank you again so much for joining me today. And is there anything that you would like to promote before you go?

I just want to promote the greatest city in the world, New York City. We're going to be back on our feet before many people think is possible. If you want to keep up with me in the campaign, you can go to Yang for NY dot com or just Andrew Yang dot com. And if you had visiting New York on your mind, come on by. It's great that people are awesome. The food's the best in the world. We would love to see you.

That's great. I'm I'm all for you, Andrew, thanks to you. I'm going to do my best to have a positive impact. I'll see you all soon. One more thing, I have a very special request for my listeners, do you have a secret that you need my advice to deal with? What's the secret you have never verbalized to anyone, maybe not even to yourself? I want to hear it. Call eight three three two seven five eight four four four eight three three.

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I was Teekay because I we have a dog door here so the dogs can go out. But I mean, if maybe if the house is so big you just call them dogs because people call them doggie doors.

Well, because I was going to say, I meant to say doggy door and I said dog door. And I just wanted to make it clear that that you had a dog.

I know that it's I know that they're usually called doggy doggy doers. I feel like what age do do people abandon dogs?

But you still say doggy door. I know.

That's also like when you go out to eat and you get a doggy bag, you still say dog.

You don't have your dog back.

Yeah, yeah. You get your doggy bag and then you come home and crawl through the doggy door and you do.

Oh excuse me. Can I get a dog bag. Thank you.

Because that sounds like you're going to pick up poop doesn't it. Like a dog bag. A doggy bag.

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