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Hey, it's Luke Burbank from the podcast, which is a show that me and my buddy Andrew Walsh do five days a week, and we start each episode with a plan to talk about the news, but then we usually get sidetracked talking about our lives or what's making us anxious or telling fascinating stories like the time I gave Tig Notaro a ride to her hotel. Yeah, that happened. And it could be like an hour of our show.

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You can find us at TTB, T.L. dot net or say it with me wherever you get your podcasts.

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Let me see. Open Bluetooth preferences. There is no technology that is both as good and as disappointing as Bluetooth. OK, I'm going to lose that. Yeah, forget that device. Let's try this bad boy again. I have a heart out in five minutes.

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Well, Will, I'll talk. And then later you can insert questions to justify my pearls of wisdom. This is Don't Ask BTIG, I'm Tig Notaro asking you to stop ignoring the title of this podcast.

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We know. Nobody, so everybody goes. Stephen Colbert is here for a very special holiday episode of Don't Ask Tig. Stephen. The Pilo, I forgot to say hi to you. That's all right. And I just want to tell you that when I was getting ready for this podcast and I get ready, I took a shower and changed my clothes and I did that for you. And I know I look absolutely no different than I normally do, but I want you to know that I know with every fiber of my being that at your house there was a vibe of, oh, shoot, I forgot.

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I told I do a podcast and I was at my house. I was like, oh gosh, I have still a camera on my project.

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I am very excited. I am so happy to be on your podcast. I really am. It's always lovely to talk to you. It does not change the fact that I came home and said to my wife, Evie, I just need to grab a quick drink and a handful of nuts because I'm doing the podcast short. Oh, is that tonight? I said I says, I told you this morning. I told you this morning when I came home.

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I have to immediately disappear as soon as I walk in because I'm going to go to my office and do the thing.

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And she goes, OK, in an hour, I say, I told you I knew that the split screen of our houses were there, that I knew it was very different what was going on. But I'm all in. I just want you to know I appreciate that and I'm thrilled to have you. And, you know, I have to say, there's certain people that that I absolutely fall in love with comedically and I'm deeply in love. And you are one.

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And I knew I loved you from afar watching your shows. But to interact with you in person the first time that I did it was utterly electrifying for me. And I feel like I was giddy. But I want to say that you, Madam High, you're getting as well. Well, you you couldn't tell that I love interacting with you. I mean, I love to to for the people out there who don't know, can I briefly tell them what happened?

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Yeah, sure. Is that I had I forgot what I had done. I'd interviewed someone in DC for the day. I'd gone down there to do one of my interviews. And I was I got on the train that night. It was the last out of DC back to New York. And the entire car that I was seated in was empty. Yeah, except one seat had one person sitting in it and I looked at my ticket, that is, they literally have me seated next to this person walk up and I looked to see who it is.

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I went, I take no, no. I said, Mr. Coble, I you didn't see me. I was watching you settle in and I was thinking the same thing of like, are you kidding me? This entire empty train and this guy is going to like a nerd, go sit in his designated seat. And I look over and I'm like, Mr. Kabera. And then you sat down.

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Well, I was happy to see you. I was happy to see. I was happy. I was happy to see you. I'm and but that wasn't the first time I interacted with you. I mean, like on your talk show.

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Oh, we we had talked before. Yeah. No, I really enjoyed that. But I will say this. You what you have to admit that train ride was three and a half hours of pretty darn good conversation at the end of which I couldn't believe we'd already gotten in New York. No, absolutely. And I feel like you were showing me and I think it might have been your son's a video of his very first open mic or was it not his very first open mic?

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I think it was just an open mic first, but I probably tried to make it more special. I was playing guitar and singing Fleet Foxes or something like that.

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And I'm a bit of a germophobia. And it really cemented how fond of you I was because you pulled your earbud out and shared it with your filthy earbud. And I, without hesitation, put it into my ear. And you sat with one in your ear and there was one of mine and we watched your son at his open mic. I want you to know, is that the earbud I gave you was not filthy because I'm deaf and know I'm deaf in my right ear and I never wear an ear but in my right ear.

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All right, you caught me. But I it's still it's still my my my comfort level because I. I couldn't see that that earbud start to finish in its day, you know. So the ear if I ever wear it only in my ear, I promise you that. OK, ok. That's good to know. That's good to know. Well I just all of that, that I just told you, I just wanted to tell you that essentially you make me want to call your brain.

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I just I just love you.

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Well I want you to know my my brain is. Willing to shake them up and put them on the glass and shake it, don't break it, you know? I mean, when when I said to people and they really shake it, my favorite bet is to immediately say, careful, careful, you're going to break it. I've written better stuff, but it's it's fun for me. But it's the delivery. It's not even that. I don't even think the delivery is good.

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I think the writing is good, but it's I won't abandon the bet. Stephen, are, you know, more of a Christmas fellow or a Thanksgiving fellow there?

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So they're so different. If, you know, if you're willing to open open your heart and and drink it in totally different there's less pressure on Thanksgiving and it's got that going for it because the pressure is get the food on the table hot. That's basically it. And make sure they don't run out of wine or something like that. And that's I was a waiter for many years. And I'm I'm. I'm ready, I'm ready for the pressures of Thanksgiving, and I love it, and we don't really have a huge Thanksgiving here, we have about 30 people.

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We sweep up stragglers, people who don't have family around or they're in from out of town or something like that. Friends of friends, everybody's invited. We have a big we do a very Kennedy Hyannis Port kind of football game in the backyard and a mud bowl, a very, very soupy yard in November. And it's fantastic. And people, including myself, were way too old to be playing. Even touch football are out there pulling.

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Everyone really gets everybody gets everybody gets into it. And we have we have like a big fire pit going and we have no Crock's and hot hot cocoa and chocolate and everything. And that's how the day starts.

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And what if somebody was to say, oh, you know, I got a little bit of a rickety body, would you let them sit out or.

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Of course, there's no shame. There's no shame. OK, but everybody everybody throws down at a certain point. Everybody gets out there, gets a little muddy. So I love Thanksgiving, but Christmas I'm a sucker. I'm a sucker for. Well, first of all, I'm a sucker for the Jesus because I'm a Christian. But I love I love the traditions. I love. I love putting up the tree. I love taking out the old ornaments, you know, some from my childhood.

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And yeah. And we've got three kids and the ones that they made and I just can't believe how much I've measured out my life in Tinsel Strand's. I can't believe how quickly the year flies by every time I take out that damn box of lights and try to figure out whether they're still all working, because before I put them away, I wrapped them. I plug them in, I go, that's working and it goes in the box. And then when I take about the next year, I put them on the tree and they go by the one of you, is it working?

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And I talk to all of you a year ago and you've not been touched since then and something gives out.

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But I love that tradition of yelling at lights. You like that tradition? Well, it's all part of the process. I like I like that. I like the tree. I love fire hazards. I love a huge crackling piece of kindling in the corner of the room. I love fires. I love Nog.

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Oh, I love you as a vet. Oh, I do. It's it's one of the things as a plant based person that I miss the I miss the consistency of not like almond nog there is and it's disgusting. But what my favorite is silk nog. I tried flax seed nog yesterday. That's a nightmare. I am not a picky eater sir. I it is the grossest thing I've ever put into my mouth. But I do love I do love Nog and I like the Grinch Stole Christmas.

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I did too. My kids are still scared of it a bit. It's scary. It is. It's scary even as an adult. But my son, my son Finn, last year when he was three, he came down every morning during Christmas season and hugged the Christmas tree. Oh, there's nothing here. Every morning he comes down and wraps his little arms around the tree and then gets his day. How old is he now? He's four now.

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That was just last year. Eldest. Well, they're twins and he is the eldest, so. Good guess.

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Do you know the a million pounds now we are six. Know that one. No, the one of the poor guy. I just love it. And it's so true as having had children, my children, all adults now but like having children all through that because when I was one I had just begun. When I was two I was nearly new. When I was three, I was hardly me. When I was four, I was not much more.

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When I was five, I was barely alive. But now we are six and as clever as clever I think will stay six now, forever and ever. Wait till your boys six.

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I cannot wait to get that because you know what? There's a new theme around our house and both Max and Finn always tell us if they don't want to get to be grownups, they want to be kids forever. They're smart and yeah, they are smart, but I'll have to get that and get a friend for their room.

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And it's true. My mother, who raised eleven children, my mother said, oh, it's so true. They get to age six and they're obviously at that point they're toilet trained, but they can fend for themselves and get themselves a little something to eat. And they can understand the world and their wonderful company. And I want to talk to you. And at that point, the system goes. We'll take them now. Yeah, you've made them perfect.

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We'll take them and we'll put them in a school. We wouldn't have taken them before when they were hard. But now that they're easy, we'll take them feel. I found that really not fair, that you make the child perfect and the system goes, we'll take them mostly away now.

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Yes, OK. Have we started the podcast at this point? We have not. No, we have we have cocktails getting low. And this is this is the intro chit chat. And then now we're getting into it. Now we're going to go save some lives. OK, Stephen, people have holiday questions. They have problems. We're going to try and help them. Are you ready? Have holiday opportunities. Let's let's let's take advantage of them.

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They do at holiday opportunities. They really do, don't we all? All right. The first question we received this message from Rochelle.

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Hey, kid, I don't know what to do about the holidays. Our family is great, but they're a little angry and bitter. And covid has just made them a little bit unbearable. We usually have family in our house and they're not the funnest people to be around right now. I don't know what to do. Do we change our plan? Do we still host Thanksgiving? I have no idea. Help.

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OK, I have an answer. Do you have an answer?

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My first answer is that I feel really unqualified to answer this because that seems like that seems like a serious question.

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OK, I'm completely unqualified and that's why the show called Don't Ask to feel better. I feel better now. OK, I'm going to say this is a perfect opportunity to use. The best excuse, which is the safest excuse, and that's that because of covid, you're going to spend this year apart. And I think that whether it's this year or any other year, I feel like it's important to allow yourself times and holidays and celebrations where you really can celebrate and you don't always have to bring in your family or your friends.

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And I really just feel like it's such an easy take it out with cover this year and you shouldn't have them over for Cofan for Thanksgiving. Ding, ding, ding. Right on all counts. I associate myself with the comments from the gentle lady from Mississippi. My first instinct there is just don't pull it off. Just say let's let's zoom in for the dessert course or something like that. Let's oh, that's got me like let's maybe zoom in for cocktails at the beginning or whatever you do beforehand, like the cooking and what are you having.

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And all that pie looks fantastic and you have the best gravy. And I wish I could be I can almost smell exactly how about that. Say that kind of thing.

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Steven, I got almost smells good and it might be my upper lip. I don't know. But just looking at you, that's what my mother used to say.

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What whenever I said, oh my gosh, I said something smells. She said, Target Chappellet.

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She always said that I thought I wrote that now. I thought my mother wrote that I'd never heard that in my life except my entire unsettled time. Something smells good. Might be my upper lip. I don't know. And I am sure I stole it from some wise old from my mother. Yeah, exactly. That is great. And then check back in for the dessert course. And in the meantime, you all can be separate and just be super catty about each other.

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Like the pilgrims undoubtedly were about everybody they left back in England. I mean, can you imagine how the claws came out for the pilgrims talking about the people back in England who wouldn't let them have their crazy period and religion?

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Because evidently it was pretty crazy and how catty the people in England were about the pilgrims that were just like, oh, the Native Americans right there at the table must have been dishing hard in their native Algonquin. Basically, whatever the Algonquin is, she has a book on her hat and her shoulders. She put her shoe on her head. I told them I told them to fish with their corn and they believed me. You're a silly man. I've always felt that it was odd that people in England are so harsh and hard on Americans because I'm like, where are you?

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Right. What kind of I mean, I'm not I'm Irish, but I get the idea. But you know that Europeans, everyone like being hard on Americans over like where you were your fault. You're us. Where are you?

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We just left the euro and for London for Thanksgiving, we went out on a little boat ride on the Thames with some friends. My wife went to Cambridge when she was in college and we actually had dear friends over in London. And so we went out to dinner with them. One night we actually went to Thanksgiving dinner with them. But on Thanksgiving Day, we took a boat ride on the Thames like a little speedboat ride on the Thames. And we went by a dock and the the guide said, I'm so glad you're here.

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You're the only ones who ever care about this, because that's the dock that the Mayflower left from before it went and pick up the pilgrims because it didn't pick up the pilgrims in London to pick them up someplace else. But it left from that dock right there. We're like, oh, and our British friends are like, what was the Mayflower again and what did it do? They had no idea. And their kids are exactly the same age as my children, as our children.

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So when we sat down for Thanksgiving dinner at one of these places in London that specializes in making a Thanksgiving dinner for expats like Americans over there, and I do it just the way you should. You sit a restaurant, but they bring you everything on one big plate, just kind of mashed together. And and when they sat down, the kid said, what's a pilgrim like? Art? We watched our kids explains Thanksgiving to their kids. This was ten years ago.

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What's the pilgrim is every is every dish. Could it be pumpkin? You know, it was fantastic. Yeah, that's that's really fantastic. But also, what's what's more interesting is I didn't know you did. Accent Oh sure. Yeah. Can I hear another one.

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I'm having an arrow. See my eye on this town. Say Mama bang, bang, bang. Wow, that's impressive. Bang, bang. I used to actually do accents, but I never act anymore, so I don't know if I can still do any. Do you want to act? It's weird.

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I don't know. I mean, I did it for my entire career until five years ago. I was acting and now I try really hard not to. It's really hard to not act if that's all you've done. And I try not to. And I kind of enjoy the ability to get up because I'm totally, totally forgivable if I can't do it right. But not for the person who's that like. You have to get it right if you're the actor.

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That's not true. You should see me behind the scenes on Star Trek. They feed me my lines. Brando to that would be Brando as well. Yeah, that's me. You have been called the Brando star, really have the brand of the federation. If not, then it's a new day after this airs. That's what I'll be known as. Anyway, I feel like you and I give really incredible advice.

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All I did was agree with you. Yeah, but I think Rochelle is all hooked up for the holidays.

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What do you think of the name Rochelle? What do think of the name Rochelle?

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Well, it's Richard, I think. Ah, I see. Rochelle. I'll let it pass. Rush hour. It seems like they just replaced it with an artist, Rechelle sounds like it's like an Italian name for a tiny little rice dish in China, Russia. I didn't know you did, actually. Yeah, well, I act and it's hard to not act all the time except when I'm on Star Trek. That's what I take a breath away from me.

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And I Rechelle as one motto that it's yours. So I better be a Natera.

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My father's name was Pasqualino Squali. That's all right. All right. You have a happy Thanksgiving. Whatever happens, I hope. Natalie Bulatov, Russia. More holiday help after the break. And.

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Big news, we're doing a don't ask Tig live show and you can stream it, it's happening Thursday, December 17th. You might even get your question answered. Live tickets or pay what you can, starting at twelve dollars proceeds support this public media podcast. Get your tickets today at Don't Ask Tiggy tickets.

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Stephen, you have a choice for this segment. Do you want to tell a Christmas ghost story or play a game called I Don't Gift? I'll do the second one.

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I don't have any ghost stories. Well, you know, in England, that's a tradition over there is to tell Christmas ghost stories. In fact, we used to do it at our house. No. Now, you know. All right. Next up, I don't give the gift to.

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Here's how it works.

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A lot of people out there have no idea what to get their friends and family this year. They come to me and you for help. They don't know it's you, but when they find out it's you, they're going to be pretty happy to see they've sent us the name The Age and one interest for the person. And we have to decide on a gift. Is there a time limit? Well, it's rapid fire lightning round. So whatever comes to your mind first thing.

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Yeah. OK, Randall is seventy five and will only eat his morning cereal out of one particular bowl. What do we get Randall.

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A gift certificate to one of those. Paint your own pottery places and he can make his own fucking bowl. That's a correct answer, Alex is twenty six and he is my husband and a music teacher, his primary instrument is the tuba.

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The heck do we get this guy euphonium, which is like a tuba, but it's smaller and not as loud, but the same it has the same fingering, if you'll pardon the expression. And so he can get all the joy of a tuba, but in fun size. All right. Stellas age four, and she wants to marry the color pink, age four. She wants to marry the color pink. Have you thought about giving a small child a cotton candy machine that they have full access to and could just whip up cotton candy?

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At any hour that I got when I was six, I was given a cotton candy machine, a small one, and everything's tiny, tiny tuba's, tiny child. I will say this. It is too young to give a child something that basically heats up sugar just short of incandescently hot and then spins it at like just suborbital speed. And then it purposely sprays the super hot sugar out in every direction. And you take a paper cone and go in the opposite direction to collect it.

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But it's it's. But have you thought of doing that? I did it. I only burned myself a little bit. I would give her a cotton candy machine. The last one is a sixty five and is constantly getting hurt. Doing activities is too old for. What do we get this guy? The first thing that comes to my mind is get him one of those three wheel bikes that have the big wheels and a basket on the back, a fan boat, one of those swamp fan boats, because they're not high impact.

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Right over the water, and you can't deny that they look incredibly fun. And you could also use the fan to wind up some cotton candy at the end of the day. You can go. You can also go chase gators. Come on. You had to have at one point wanted to ride one of those fan boats. I've ridden in those federal lands and I used to water ski in the swamps of Louisiana as a kid. Who do you think you're dealing with, a fan boat?

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Well, not behind a fan boat, but I've I've ridden in a fan boat and I've also and I'm saying and in addition to that, I've water skied in the swamps of Louisiana.

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So you see water skiing in gator country. Yes, sir, I water ski in an area where there is a yield sign that said. Caution Gaiters, the last time my brother was in town or when I was out visiting him, I said, have I made this up? People are astounded when I tell him. And he said, no. Yeah, we used to water ski farms. Are you are you an extra in a movie? I would be, you know, to man, I'm happy to do that kind of work.

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I'm not above anything. I, I, I never did. I didn't ski. But I need boarded pass gaiters on the bank when I was a kid. Like, you know, they're like you're trying to compete with me. No, no. But we didn't know they'd be there. You have to know if there's a sign. We didn't know we were just up the window, you know, the window.

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It's I didn't even need a sign. I don't need a sign saying caution, gaiters, I was in a slump. You don't you know, there's gators in there, but it's I don't want to canoe in a swamp. Right. Because I know they're gators. I don't want to go back and visit now that I've had some time and distance. But I, I really was at an age where it's that invincible thing where I just assumed nothing would happen.

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But just quickly, before the on the fan boat thing, are they fun?

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A blast. You kidding me? A blast. You and me, we're going to do that in London some time up the Thames. Yeah, that's where the Mayflower left there. All right. Remember, it's the thought that counts. And I'm referring back to the gifts that we helped everybody. Stephen, our final listener question deals with someone who loves Christmas a little too much. Regan writes, Soon I will succumb to what I've begun to refer to as the Christmas crazies.

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And just because you can't see this, I want to let you know Christmas and crazies are spelled with KS. That's how nuts. So, OK, each year it gets a little worse. Last year I made a gift list in October with mostly handmade gifts. I spent a lot of time and money trying to recreate the lovely spirit I felt as a child. On the outside. I still felt a little empty and pretty exhausted this year. I want a different approach.

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How do I share love and warmth and special seasonal spirit without spreading myself?

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So maybe instead of like trying to recreate like handmade gifts, everything, once you write a letter to the people that you're giving them, they would be killing yourself to make these presents. For once you write a letter talking about what they mean to you and and why it's why they're on your mind at Christmas time. That's really nice. They don't have to be long. And maybe if you want to add anything to that, maybe attach it to like a little treat that you make, like perhaps candy, some orange rinds.

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I find that's a very Dickensian and old fashioned form of Christmas present little bag of candied orange rinds or a donation to a charity of of their or your choice and. Yes, yes, indeed. And maybe if you do write the letter, sign the letter saying watch out for a gaiters this Christmas. Right.

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Something that really ties in the holiday spirit or throw in like I'm writing this letter because otherwise I will go Christmas crazy. And this is a this is a cry for help, but cry with a K or cry for help and then you'll really saying Christmas cries only send it. You only said it to harp seals. Only send it to yourself and then it's really Christmas to send all of the letters to your home address address to other people aren't sure. And do you suggest that Raegan make the orange rinds herself so easy?

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OK, but this is what she's trying to get out of. Are you saying that Reagan doesn't want to make anything for anyone else, Jessica? That she didn't say she's sick of it. She says she's I can read between the lines. She's sick of this Christmas. Reagan, I think I understand you better than BTIG does. You're looking for one thing you can do that is simple. Lets everybody know how you feel. And it is that feeling of sharing yourself with the people that is the true spirit of Christmas.

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For did not Jesus himself say it's the thought that counts. This is the most religious episode because I wish I said the word Jesus, if I said the word well and you said it three times. Another one where you said, Jesus like that. So there's three time earned it with the two sincere ones. You sure did. Maybe we'll make this a very religious episode, a Christian episode, or don't I'm not here to proselytize, as I've said before, more Jesus for me.

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Ethan hogging all the tapes, nobody else wants the Jesus or Jesus. I'll take a royal baby. That's mine. All right, baby doll. Come on, Reagan. Reagan, sure that Jesus with Mr. Coble. I wonder if Reagan's got Jesus. Well, keep it together this year. Reagan, thanks for writing in. I'm very curious how your Christmas crazies go. Please keep in touch and let us know. And Stephen, before we go, and we are about to go.

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I had a lot I had a delightful time with. This was like a glass of refreshing water. Thank you. It's not eggnog. Well, nothing is more refreshing. Well, after a long run, nothing's more refreshing. Come back from a nog. Oh, and and and a corn dog just. Eggnog and, of course, is the electrolytes, the. Oh, is that what it is, electrolytes? Well, Stephen, BTIG, as fun as this was, I do want to acknowledge that for a lot of people, the holidays are not a fun time.

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And a lot of us may be alone. A lot of us may be grieving family and friends that we lost this year. Do you have any advice for people who may be going through a difficult time right now?

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Well, no know you're not alone. Even if you don't. Know anyone else who is going through what you're going through is that it's perfectly natural and so many people go through it at the same time and and also know that it will pass just like the holidays will, that those emotions are normal and not permanent. And it's and it's perfectly valid to feel them. I mean, all I all I hear when I hear that is I want to talk to that person.

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Yeah, and I want them to know that their loved. And that they're valuable and that that life itself is so beautiful that I want them to be hopeful that they will see the the the the the beauty of life, the radiant beauty of existence, like like everything in the world is lit from the backside, like stained glass. It sounds like it's out there and waiting for you and live in the hope of that night. Everybody needs that drastic of a conversion.

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But I did when I was younger, I had I suffered some tragedy. I was younger and I had terrible sadness at the holidays. I couldn't bear how sad it made me. And at a certain point, I saw my sadness as momentary and had a flash for just a moment that the world was lit on the other side by something more beautiful than I could anticipate. And I let go of what I thought was kind of a hubris I had that I knew what tomorrow would bring and instead gave up to the idea that I didn't know and made myself open to the possibility that I would feel better.

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And I know that's a very facile way of putting it. And mental illness and sadness is a very real thing. But I can only look at my own experience and know that however crushingly depressed I was four years is that there is something on the other side of it and don't lose hope. That's really beautiful and incredible, and I'm certain that it's going to mean a lot of a lot to hear from you and and I you know, I feel the same way.

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And and I always go back to whether it's loss of experience or any sort of health challenges I've had over the past eight years. I always try to stay in this place of trusting life. And and it's kind of a weird thing to say because you have no idea where anything's going to go. But I have really tried the hardest and darkest moments to trust. Like you're saying, that there is something more, there is something better. And I and and I don't want to because this is your podcast and I don't want to make this a religious podcast.

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But as a Christian, I would only add to that is that think about getting a cotton candy machine because they're really fun. And who doesn't like cotton candy? Jesus talking about. OK. So you think Jesus wouldn't have, like, cotton candy? What are you talking about? Can you picture Jesus holding cotton candy 100 percent? 100 percent.

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OK, if there's an artist out there, could you please whip up a painting of Jesus eating cotton candy, loaves, fishes and just out just an ass load of cotton candy, except the multitudes I was going to say the final dinner, but that's not what it's like for I think it was called the ultimate snack.

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My sons are obsessed with the idea of midnight snacks, but whenever we go visit Nana in Palm Springs, they they cannot wait to get up in the middle of the night and have a midnight feast, not a midnight snack, a midnight feast with Nana. And what they don't know is it's only eight o'clock at night, but they seem to get in the middle of the night and and she pulls out whatever they want and they just chow down and have their midnight seems to have now.

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And if you get nothing else, if you take nothing else from this podcast tonight, listeners tainted by his lie to your children.

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Anyway, there you have it. Stephen, thank you endlessly for taking the time to do this is really, really lovely.

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Thanks so much. It was it was nice in a way that actually makes it more energy efficient. Thanks so much. Thank you. Have a happy holiday, everybody. That's where Joe. Don't ask, BTIG is hosted by me, Tig Notaro. It's produced by Thomas Willette Marinus and Tracy Mumford's. Our editor is Phyllis Fletcher, executive producer Lauren D. Engineering and Sound mixing by Eric Rachmani, digital production by Christina Lopez. Talent Booking by Marianne Wei's Production Assistants by Nancy Shiu.

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Our theme music is Friend in Tig by Edie Brickell and Kyle, Crush Them and listen to Your Heart by any Riquelme special. Thanks to Hunter sideman Lily Kim and Alex Shaffer. Our executive consultant is Dean Cappello and Gobsmacked Studios. You can always ask for advice on Don't Ask Tig. Just write in with your problem or send us a voice memo. You can also follow us on social media at Don't Ask BTIG. Don't Ask. TIG is a production of American Public Media.

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And as always, thanks, Dana. And I'll tell Becky Ghostwood. If you happen to be looking for another podcast, check out BTIG and Cheryl, true story, where my friend Cheryl Hines and I talk about different documentaries every week. Here's us talking about the queen of Hersi.

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I was Teekay because I we have a dog door here so the dogs can go out. But I mean, if maybe if the house is so big you just call them dogs because people call them doggie doors.

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Well, because I was going to say, I meant to say doggy door and I said dog door. And I just wanted to make it clear that that you had dogs.

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I know that it's I know that they're usually called doggy doggy doers. I feel like what age do do people abandon dogs?

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But you still say doggy door. I know.

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That's also like when you go out to eat and you get a doggy bag, you still say dog.

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You don't get your dog back.

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Yeah, yeah. You get your doggy bag and then you come home and crawl through the doggy door and you do.

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Oh, excuse me. Can I get a dog bag. Thank you.

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Because that sounds like you're going to pick up poop doesn't it. Like a dog bag. A doggy bag. Sounds disgusting.

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