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Hello and welcome to the Golden Talkies podcast, Garden, Minnesota Mangler Bell. I'm here with Jamie High, Latorre making my first appearance on the Golden Talkies.

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We're here in person next to each other. Yeah, I could touch Duncan, but he's not going to make is a pandemic one I could really touch.

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He's going to really touch me later. I just asked Duncan as a sort of actual conversation what his favorite comedian was and then he insisted on recording. Well, this is this is going to be the start of the episode next week because this week's episode, we will be watching performance performance. I've seen it on. Jimmy is not seen it yet. I was going to watch it this evening. And it is currently Thursday on the 6th of August, the year of our Lord 2020.

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I'm really worried they're going to be on my front door somehow. And we are recording the podcast tomorrow, Friday, The Sake of August the of our Lord Almighty, the seventh of the Overload 2020.

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And do you think we're likely to be hungover when when we were going to. Potentially. Probably.

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Do you think this is going to be the most likely that we will be at least one listener's desire that you had in one day?

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Right. I edited it. Yes, I edited it.

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Sure. Let's go to the farmer's market.

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No, I think we will probably a record tomorrow. They we could be recording on Saturday, the safety of August eight. Twenty twenty. We've had a few beers, haven't we, Jamie, over maintaining social distancing because we were responsible and I can't touch you. No, he's, he's, he just put his hand out. They didn't touch me. And this is going we're going to get so many views from this, you know, that really if we if we title it.

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Golden Talkies, Episode 12. Open brackets, drunk episode, close brackets offer tipsy, tipsy, that's classy tipsy episode dash performance dash for the coins revealed how we titled the episode.

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Someone Oh if you hadn't figured out.

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There you go. Episode 12 is revealing to you that we we do the quotes by the titles, by quotes, by quotes in the film we were having a little party within the rules I believe. Five households, five outside distance. So we're within the rules. I have a little party and a recording in podcast and I thought because everyone just went to the shop to get some alcohol socially distance, of course they brought masks. I hope so. Pay Asmus because he was on the train.

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He is one of our friends but is OK. We're still on the podcast and he has a mask. Molesworth Mark does not have a mask because I was just in his I was just in his house, which is two households in a house which is allowed. We do this and he does not. The mask, Ross may or may not have a mask. And so that is, that is the star of the episode. I hope you enjoy the rest of the episode when we will be sober and in separate places.

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Yeah, it'll be fun. Who's your favorite doctor?

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My favorite segment comedian. That's a hard question to answer. Maybe I'll answer. And a podcast tomorrow. Who knows. Or sorry day. But when you're listening to it in a minute.

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Yeah baby. Golden talk is back on the radio waves.

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We should say hello again because if you remember if you remember, Jamie, two days ago we recorded the little intro clip for the.

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Oh, yeah. And which I fully intend to use unless I've forgotten the content. And he said something dodgy. But I think and I think they'll be a lovely, heartwarming and.

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Proof that we know each other outside of the Internet. Yes, that's good, that's important. Yeah, and that was fun, wasn't it? Yeah, I you know, my good friend David, I feel we really did something there. I sure that. Jim Jim. That is that is what we call you, though, yeah, and by we I mean the royal we me. So we call you. That was. Yeah. You know what you said to me, Jamie?

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You said you said I like you, you're fun. And that meant a lot to me. So that's true. So thanks. Bye bye. This is OK.

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That's enough. Wholesome wholesome podcast listening for today. Well, yeah.

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Not Arpita obviously. Voices podcast. And what are we watching.

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The Goldenthal, his podcast. My Baby Mahayni, my ragtime gal. And on it we discussed movies that came out 50 years ago this very week, this week. So this movie is 1970s performance starring Jamie Fox and Mick Jagger from Rolling Stone, Jamie Fox from Marvel.

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Not the popular Jamie with two X's and singular acts, Jamie Singular. Jamie Fox, and it's James Fox, I think, isn't it, James? Sorry. Yeah. Surely as someone of that name yourself, you would know the differences that matter.

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So I watched this film on Wednesday and.

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Yeah, so I watch it quite a while ago and I watched it yesterday.

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So you can sort of take lead. And man, I know I say this every time, but I feel like every episode we do, my notes get worse and worse to the point where now I have like even less typing and it's all just what I wrote when I watched it three days ago. So this is going to be a good one. Yeah.

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So to be fair, I would say that this film is perhaps one of the more difficult we've ever done it. Absolutely. This is an experimental British film, came out in 1970.

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And you can tell from the promos first of August, the 3rd of August. There we go.

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Five days ago, data recording, I guess, would be six days data release.

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That's right. So, yeah. So he plays Jamie Fox singular place. Charles, who's a London gangster. Gangster. Yeah. He's going around for protection money and all that jazz that he just he just he jazz. That's right.

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But. He goes a little too into it one day because he's got personal beef with the owner of a betting shop at the Mafia, the guy, it's going to destroy the guy's code, magic or something, or automatic cuts.

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Yes, Murdoch from. Yes, yes, yes, I think so. Mafia boss man who looks a bit like George Costanza, except he was from London.

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Yeah. What's he called again, Tony. No, hill, Harry. Harry Hill, yeah. Yes, well, this is a lovely job by and he looks at the side camera. I don't think it's quite right for you.

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There's only one way to find out. Oh, hi, Harry Flowers, as he was called.

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If if was so, he says that, you know, Charles, you're too into this on the personal level with mixed up business, with your personal life. Yeah, I'm going to get my other students to do this. And they do. And they destroyed the shop. But Charles comes back for a victory lap to sort of turn a bit. Yeah. And then after that, Murdoch from the betting shop tries to kill chat in his own flat.

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While he's having a bit of a shock, he's not having a shake. No, that's not accurate. Is he is out on the floor? No, I think he has had a shake up, I think and I think he comes home, doesn't need to find them destroying his apartment, and then they capture him. All right, I mean, you're about to see the thing where the confusion comes from, I think. I less what happened, because he he comes home and then they strip him and Worton.

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Yeah, but he's he comes home fully clothed, he's not in the middle of the night when the. All right. Yeah, but yeah. Anyway, Murdoch attacks Charles and sort of in retaliation, Charles kills them. Yeah, but it turns out sorry.

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I mean, I think you're skipping over this a bit. Yeah, yeah, he he he said naked insects working him because he's a kinky boy. And then in order to defend himself, shoots and then then what? What were you going to say? Well, that's it. Oh, right. Well, you kind of get that. Yeah, so he he shoots Murdoch and he says, and the Murdoch was, you've killed me. And he goes, Your dad, Murdoch, and then he dies magmatic.

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Justin Martek. Sorry, I'm. So Harry Flowers doesn't really do a job security. So now that Chasez killed him, he wants to get them to cause trouble for the rest of them. Yeah, he wants to he wants to kill chairs, basically. Yeah. So Charles needs to flee the country now. But in order to do that, he needs to find a place to lay low while he gets his emergency cash, gets the documents forged so that he can make the big trip.

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So while he's hanging out of the station, so a beatnik musician, this happens to be table chairs along and he's telling an old lady about this new tour he's on, how, you know, he had a little bit of problem with landlord. Well, sure. I was going to be able to finish paying his rent. He was like, you know what? You can keep my stuff in the apartment. I'll just be on for a little bit.

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You know, that can be on my deposit. Apartment's free, but, you know, everything's fine. He goes, hey, I've got an idea. I can sort of hide out this musician's apartment last night. So I get everything arranged.

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And so he hangs. So he goes to the apartment and a nice French lady answers the door and he says that she just she only rents the entertainers, I think. And he says he's a juggler, is a great liar.

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Yeah, I chuckled. What was it? Johnny Dean. Johnny Dean. Yes. So he saw how to do a little bit of finagling, but he's able to convince her and she lives in the apartment.

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And then who should be his co tenant if it's not Rolling Stones is Mick Jagger.

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But but not Mick Jagger, but not Mick Jagger. I just I can't remember the actual name of the character Turner. Turner. Yes. But he's also very much Rolling Stones. Mick Jagger.

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Yes. Doing a pretty good turn in this, I've not really seen much of Mick Jagger's public persona, but I liked him in this film.

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Yeah, well, I read something that said that he was he was this this performance was voted at some point the best performance by musician in the film. That sounds fair because I would say that this performance is very good and I think there are many other performances by musicians that would deliver that. Exactly.

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I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah. So. So I'm playing a tortured, bohemian rock star. We find out later that he's lost his devil.

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He's he's quite similar to Zeeman from the Valley of the Dolls film. He has got to say beyond the film that this reminds me of more than anything is beyond the valley of the death, which we watched in episode.

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Something, if whoever is editing this, if you could just add what episode is in there. Yes. I mean, you know, I'm sure with your high quality edits, we'll get it in.

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It was episode six. Six, yes, yes, um, so the actual emotional weight of it, as it were, is that we've got charts and so straight laced London gangster and he's lived with the Bohemian Mick Jagger and his two floozies. And, you know, he's struggling between his port identity, his societally mandated identity, yeah. And his the the freedom of the sexual revolution.

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Yeah. As it were.

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And would you say there's implications that he's homosexual? Yes. Yeah. Or at least. I think there's at least a certain implication that he's homosexual. I think there's also the film's very big on gender roles, obviously. Yeah.

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So, yeah. There's a point where he says that he feels like a man all the time when the woman says to him, do you never feel your feminine side? And he's obviously got, you know, repressed whatever. And he's like, no, I feel a command all the time. Always a man.

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Well, I don't think that's necessarily repressed anything.

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It's just a clearly I think it is it's not something anyone anyone who's like I have literally never felt any feminine impulse whatsoever is delusional or at least very something.

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But that's that's misunderstanding. The context of her speech is like, you know, you know, gender binaries are shit, man. We're all got a little bit of each inside of us, impulses here, impulses there, and then sort of not listening, but deeply outraged that he and he's been accused of having a shred of femininity. And then he's like, I feel like a man 100 percent.

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I mean, that's I mean, he's oppressing the. As president, I was just as I thought you were trying to say that, like he's implied to be like transgenderism. No, no, no, no, no.

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I'm just saying it's this sort of toxic masculinity like you. You cannot accept that you could ever feel a feminine side to him. Yeah, no, I'm not implying. In no way is he alone. Well, I say it in a way, but he does. He could be transgender.

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I mean, stopping it. Yeah. There's, you know, the scenes where he puts on women's clothing and yes, I feel sorry for you and we're coming on anyway. Yeah. So, yeah. Continue.

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Well I guess I mean, just. Yeah. The crux of this film, the remaining really hour of about 40 minutes in the apartment is just sort of him and being a sort of. Fish out of water in the apartment, as it were. So I guess it's fine to talk about that more realistically than we usually would.

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Yeah, well, he takes shrooms as well to say the big I would go so far as to say perhaps really the best, the best and perhaps only really worthwhile seeing of the scenes of the film are the sort of 20 minute long section where one of the girls feeds some shrooms is knowledge. Yeah. And the crazy drug trip where you, you know, interrogates himself very harshly and some really cool, surreal imagery.

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Mick Jagger does a full song as hard as Harry Flowers and then like everyone in the gangster office is naked. Yeah, it's very surreal imagery, which is why having trouble describing it.

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Yeah. But yeah. So there's like a lot of sort of quite spiritual talk about, you know, who, who has really is who men really are, who Turnour really is. And we all connected. And I'm sure they very much, very much one of those things are quite difficult to talk about in a podcast.

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Yeah, it's a pretty groovy film. Well, I think we can once you've done the plot, we can talk about it in. Yeah. Specific bits in detail from a sort of analytical point of view. Yeah.

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So just to round off the plot, because during this time there's been sort of communicating with this guy, Tony, like an old friend of his. Yeah. I was giving him instructions on how to get the passport ready and stuff. And Tony says you need to a passport pictures like a new ideas. You're not recognizable as your old self. And Arthur, of course.

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Yeah. This is a this is what starts the day after the drug traffic settles on the sort of glam rock with a red wig. Yeah. So now, although before the drug shop, he was trying to get it for, you know, the old hat and.

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Yeah.

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But yeah, it turns out, though, that Tony's betrayed him because the mob were listening on the other end of the phone, Tony, although the implication is that Tony has been forced to betray.

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Yeah. Just to. Yeah. Yeah.

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But it's not that's not a betrayal that it's not. Let's not paint Tony as a snitch here. Tony is obviously for Tony Snow a snitch.

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He's frightened impression about it. That's what makes him a snitch in my eyes.

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But he would have probably been killed otherwise. You can just go straight to Jamie.

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I'm going to take your fucking bullet for your best man.

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Maitland No, man, if it's me against you. I'm gonna help you, Ned, myself. No, I would have taken a bullet for you, but now I'm not going to. So I'm joking, obviously. Of course I would. Otherwise, you're looking at the mobsters come round to Charles's place, Chazan and Tarsa Place, and they're like, hey, you got got to come with us, all right? And then Chazz is like, yeah, yeah.

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OK, OK. Just I'll be a minute. I've got a gun. So, you know, we don't want to get violent here. Boys, just give me two minutes. Yeah. When things will get back down, he goes upstairs, he shoots Turner in the head. Yeah. Which sounds like quite a bizarre escalation. What I'm saying it right now, it is really bizarre. And so yeah it leaves a little note for his. He's sort of, you know, started tweeting with one of Mick's floozies.

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So you're saying, you know, I'm going away and then he walks down to the car and is driven off. But, you know, in the final seconds, it seems he has turned his face.

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Woo, woo, woo, woo. And then another Mick Jagger song plays as they drive away. Yeah.

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So, you know, my description of the film doesn't really do it justice because it's a very weird, wacky, surreal, crazy time, very aggressively. So is it gross? Yeah, it's really liked it. I really like to.

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I found it was one of those films where. You have no idea what's going on and a lot of the time until it sort of starts coming together, but it's not it's not like that in terms of like it's sort of mysterious.

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And then there's this, like, big moment where everything's revealed. It's more just you kind of have to gradually work it out and try and figure out what's real and what is in and who the different characters are. Nothing to explain to you. And I kind of like that because it's done well, I think if that's done poorly. It sucks, but it's done well.

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The film is very much built around the existence of like the scene where Jack Richards takes mushrooms. Like that's, you know. Yeah, you can sort of feel like the film starts there and they sort of work it backwards and forwards, you know? Yeah. It's like the point I had to say.

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I find the editing in parts a bit clunky and it's very aggressive, which is the word I use when they use shortcuts because I'm not good at this. Yeah. So it's not time to rest. No.

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And there's no traditions of editing followed in terms of like match cuts or trying to give a linear kind of idea of what's going on. It's very much. Yeah, it's very much. If two things are happening at the same time, like, for instance, the film opens with and someone having sex, I can't remember who and someone driving. And yeah, it's all intercut incredibly quickly and like faded into each other and stuff with all these weird edits and stuff and which from sort of.

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I don't know, from trying to follow a traditional trying to follow the film point of view is not great, but it kind of works to create a cohesive tone in the film.

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Yes, it's very disorientating. I think I was meant to be. Supposed to be. And that's that's what I meant. That's what I meant when I said that you don't really know what's going on.

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But then there's there are enough scenes. There's very few scenes there show traditionally. But there is just enough that you can I can get the context of what you've seen before and what you're about to see from those scenes. Yeah.

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And what's the other thing on a similar note to that? I think it's less noticeable when he's in the apartment because when there's a real weirdo anyway. But even during the gangster scenes, which you'd expect to be quite straight laced, the way they act is very strange as well. Yeah, I like the way they like annunciate their sentences, like they have often quite strange, like quite quick increases or decreases in volume, sort of like, yeah, I'm telling you, flowers sort of thing, you know, like yeah.

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That's very well I'm telling you loures you know. Yeah.

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My favorite gangster was Muthee. See, the other the other arguing, he's the one that sits there and they're like talking about something like, oh yeah, I know that. And like this there's a bit where they're like, oh, it's like you've been bitten by a dog. And he's like, I got bit by a dog once. And then they're like, they're like moody.

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You need to go get rid of Chasey. He's like, Oh, right. And then he like heads out and, you know, he reminds me of Jimmy. Do you remember when we were in primary six and we did gel the musical? Yes, and Kalim, I was like your character, no Hallum among it's his second, obviously is happy doxxing technically, but the big guy. Yeah, yeah. It looked like he was about five years old and there was the character he played in the gang and.

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We're joined that I do remember that, yeah, that was humanity behind me, we don't know was a copyright royalty free version of the bill, although the gang was cocaine's the game was Kokanee, which actually works well for this film.

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I think that was the director's choice. Wasn't or potentially. Probably. And yeah. Anyway, the game is Kokanee. So actually a lot of the gang members remind me of and the characters from the musical we both did when we were 10. And yeah.

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But in particular, yeah, I was a nerd no.12. I was in the gang and I was actually when I was on the top back intensives, Jimmy and I had to, I had to buy a tank top and converse.

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That was the dress code for the hat to buy Converse.

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Yeah, it's quite expensive. And we were like Converse like yes you can get from Primerica something we. Yeah. So I was when I was picked to be one of the main background dancers because there was like the stage at the back that was like really high and above everyone. And they were like, we want the best dancers. People have learnt the choreography, the best up and up at the stage. And he picked me up and I was about to say other names, but I probably shouldn't like, say the names of everyone.

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I went to high school.

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I feel like we're not far enough, but eventually I feel like we're not far enough removed from school. You know, if we were like 50 years old, it wouldn't matter.

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But yeah, I feel like, well, that's probably no problem anyway. Regardless, the gang reminds me a lot of the Cockney gang from the musical Jo, which I recommend everyone to check out.

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No, I don't think there's any way to check it.

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Hey, I could not watch the film Grease and then sort of every 30 seconds just yell something in Cockney North.

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I've got a good idea. Yeah. So it's kind of because I feel like as far as London gangs go, they've got a lot of representation. And like, I'm thinking of legend and that's about it. Unless I'm being really stupid, you know, compared it to the mafia or something. They have hundreds and hundreds.

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Well, what about every Guy Ritchie film? And I think I've only seen, like one Guy Ritchie film. Well, in that case, I will tell you that Guy Ritchie was responsible for like 90 percent of, like, snatching stuff. Yeah, I saw the man from Uncle. It's a nice no thing.

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I went to see Beryl's and always make you meet a gentleman, didn't he?

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Yeah, gentlemens. Very much. And the only thing I know about Guy Ritchie.

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Oh, wait. We've talked about this in a podcast before.

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You know, the interview he did was really awkward. And maybe Guy Ritchie, David Spade, he didn't interview David Spade. And it's like the most awkward thing, uh, where like David Sirota, I'll ask him a question and he'll answer if, like, one word, which is obviously the opposite, which was a talk show. Oh, yeah. I've definitely said it before, but that's what I feel like.

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I would be on a talk show and just be pretty awkward and then everyone would make fun of me on the Internet. The way to go, yeah, yeah, I've been watching, as I mentioned, last week, Taskmaster recently, and for one of the prized tasks in the first year, he's got to bring in like I think it was the most embarrassing item or something. Right. And Josh Worldcon brought in a tape of him on Andrew Neil's show where like Andrew Dukat asking him like really a political question.

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Yeah, Anthony was the big politics guy, right? Yeah. Yeah.

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And there was one where he was like, oh, so how do we found out that there's discrimination against regional accents? What's your opinion on that, Josh? I was like I was like, yeah, I mean, it's really bad, but like, oh yeah. It's just what can you do? I mean, it's so bad, you know.

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And it was very embarrassing.

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Yeah, that's kind of weird. So yeah. So that's my knowledge of Guy Ritchie. But yeah, I suppose there are but I still feel like there you think about it less than the mafia. See. Yeah. Even though it was a big thing, like the twins were like the dudes.

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What's the name of that movie about the creator of the legend featuring Tom Hardy and Tom Hardy?

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Actually, yeah. There's a link between legend and this film. Well, there's a link between legend and this performance. Yeah. So the poster for legend has Tom Hardy twice, and it says featuring Tom Hardy and Tom Hardy. And the poster for performance has Mick Jagger twice. And some of them have James Fox twice in their different costumes, personas Mick Jagger and Mick Jagger, James Fox and James Fox. Oh, so there's a little link for all of you listeners.

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We don't just we don't just chat show in this podcast, we really work on it, there's, um. Oh, I'm looking at a poster here. Uh, poor performance, it says, face and voice at the top, and then it's got a picture of Mick Jagger in bed with the two girls and then a picture of James Fox in bed with Mick Jagger, Mick Jagger, not Mick Jagger. And it says this film was about madness and sanity, fantasy and reality, death and life, vice versa.

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Yeah, that's accurate. No. OK. I mean, I'm going to be OK. I think I need to watch this film a second time before I can truly say I understood it because I was definitely missing from stuff.

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There's a lot of, like, nuances and. Yes, and like it goes right you fast. So, yeah, I can't pretend to say like, oh, I definitely got all this, you know, this this is no great.

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I think at its core, it's about these like totally opposing worlds clashing and what not to say are really a recurring theme in the films we've done.

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Is this idea or maybe not? That recurring theme coming up for the idea of like you're being pulled between this world of like corporatism or what society expects of you and you're being pulled between this like 60s swingin' world, self-closing, beyond the Valley of the Dolls and regular Valley of the Dolls. And getting straight in particular are really about that.

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What was the what was the conformists site? The conformist was about the Nazi boy, which I guess is.

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Oh, yes, of course. I totally forgot also about that.

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I might be more of a coincidence, though, given how divorced it is from her.

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Oh, yeah. That was an interesting film. Yeah, we've done some interesting ones, aren't we? I know a lot of drag, the Cheyenne Social Club, I guess a little bit so. Oh yeah, I know you're completely right. The social club definitely is about as well. Look at us.

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Oh, we're getting themes running for all our films. That's what this is all about.

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Yes. If we're just talking about, like, the general mood of late 60s, early 70s yet, I think it's quite interesting that a lot of the films that are more definitively off that time that we've thought more about this idea of being caught between these two worlds.

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But I think I know I've sort of stopped the historical context and in terms of looking at magazines and stuff, but a lot of the articles in that were kind of the same thing about, you know, hippies or protestors. And like the readers of the magazines are generally not the sort of people that would be into that. And it's about this like clash of ideas. And, you know, you've got the Vietnam War going on at the same time because it's like free peace movement.

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And, you know, I think I think it's really the.

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Cultural, I don't know if they exist so much that I feel like nowadays, no, there is no nowadays is not so much the norm you have to conform to.

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Oh, I was I was going to argue the exact opposite. I was going to say that is so much of a would you say Norm to conform to are not to conform to is in its own way of comparing what you say.

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Sorry, I, I say the the the harsh corporate, you know, you put on your suit and tie man and then you do a thing that still exists, but not as much.

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But I would argue against that. But I would say that like the Bohemia, the free love Woodstock back when it was good that doesn't exist anymore is no. Of the two world. That's the only one who survived.

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Well, I agree with that. But I think there's a lot less pressure now to conform to the. No, I, I wouldn't say so, I'd say, but you still have to I would say society particularly actually now the media is so much more widespread in its messaging is much more, much more. But it's still as pervasive as ever. You're still there, still very, very strong cultural forces that are that encourage you to get a job.

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Well, I think nice girl.

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You know, I feel like that's less now. I feel like people are a lot more accepting of someone being like Ferreti and single or someone working in non-traditional job or stuff.

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Maybe it's just maybe it's the circles I mingle in as a film shoot.

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Yeah, well, I think it still seems like inspiration.

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That's all. Very like a. culture stuff. So I maybe I don't see as much the like.

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You know, I think if it's single at 40, people wouldn't necessarily have a problem with that.

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But they would genuinely be surprised if you said that you were never planning on marrying someone or even like settling into a long term relationship. If you're like, I'm going to I think I'm just going to stay single for life, then. Yeah, that would push back against you.

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Yeah. That is so true. Yeah.

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What are like, like if you like I make I have my own Etsy store and I make these necklaces and I sell them. And that's why I do genuinely think most people, maybe the whole would judge you for that rather than yeah, maybe I'm a planning supervisor and I walk and you know, I do this.

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Maybe it's more of a case of the age has been pushed back because I feel like in 1970, like even being our age and maybe like, OK, what job are you getting the second you graduate and what you you know, all that kind of stuff. And do you have you met who you're going to marry? You, you know, people got married regularly at 20, 21, 22 and or younger, easily younger and younger. And so yeah I feel like maybe the eight.

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I see what you're saying. The pressures still exist, but perhaps the sort of ages have been pushed back where you're allowed to be kind of free a lot longer. People, people who judge you less for being in your mid 20s and not having you're like your job for life, your wife.

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Oh, yeah. I mean, certainly like the specific standards, I'm just like. There is still a title script out there, but I guess I guess what I was saying is it's a bit looser. So like I feel like and obviously I was not alive in 1970, so I don't know. And maybe it's just because you hear about certain groups or whatever. But I feel like now and whilst there is still that, like, overarching pressure to do that, it's a lot less like you people get judged for exactly what they do or who they do or where they do it or whatever.

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Yeah. You know, like you can you can you can be working in an office, but you can, you know, be a skater or whatever.

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Which means he's not so he walks up to someone not even like twenty seven and said, I'm a professional skater, they would still, I think, judge you unless you are incredibly famous, at which point that sort of overtakes it, you know. Like, I'm a professional skater. I'm just about able to make a living off that, like maybe I do some side jobs or whatever. Then you would, I think, be judged quite harshly by most people.

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Yeah, but I'm more talking about a hobby. Talk about hobbies and lifestyles are now a lot more open than they were at the time, but that's fair.

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I mean, yeah, I think that's fair.

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Like there may still be the societal sort of need to get a job into this. But then if you go out in the forest and you're a hippie at the weekend, people are like, yeah, whatever. Whereas in the 70s be like, why waste your time doing that? Well, yeah, but, you know, I have you on the weekend like, you know, Jimmy. Do you know what being a hippie is, I mean, I'm in the forest right now.

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Jimmy. I think my definition does not have a nine to five. Oh, I totally disagree.

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Jamie, I look at all these things about like the implacable divide between being responsible work or look at you.

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Oh, exactly.

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Oh, James for old James Fox had to do was be a gangster during the week and dress up as a woman at the weekend. No, but this is my point. Nowadays you could be a gangster and we can dress up in the weekend. In the 70s, you couldn't because it would be like, oh, you're a a P word. I think they still say that today, and I think if you look inside your water that they were yeah, um, talking about the P word this.

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So, you know, you know, when they're, um. So back to the film, we've been off the film for like 20 minutes now.

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We're discussing the way we are. And so the scene where he gets the apartment broken into and beating up the paint red paint all over the walls.

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Yeah, and in the paint, the right eye for an eye for were in poop pope and I was like, why the fuck if they were in Tiptonville?

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And it was only when they filmed it for the second time that I realized it was, are you like to say that words I feel like I should know.

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The second piece was actually an F. Yeah, the second P was actually an F. Although, of course, that is a word for futzed also. Or, yeah, that's the context or someone's disappeared. It's not just that, obviously.

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Just out of shot, there's a little arrow pointing down to Chasez and it's a little helpful thing.

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OK, anyway, so they write word and I put said poop. I felt I was a little funny. I think I was like, why? Yeah.

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Um, and that nicely brings us back to the homosexual side.

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So I think so you see him have sex a few times and. Yeah. Which I will also come back to. I'm adding things. I'm going to come back to you and but you I think the first indication that he could be a homosexual or certainly could have some kind of homosexual desires is when he's being whipped and when he's been stripped and whipped and it cuts between. Pictures of topless men as well. Oh, yeah, and also him having sex, so it sort of reminds him of it kind of like these three things.

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It links him. He's being whipped by a man, this pose a topless man over his apartment and also with the sex.

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And the idea is that like he's going or not going off on it, but no getting off on it because there's a mental connection. Exactly. Exactly.

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And there's a few other bits like that. Um. You know, when he says he feels like a man all the time and she laughs and then, you know, I guess homosexuality is not necessarily linked to cross-dressing in any way, but, you know, that whole kind of side of him and it definitely comes out when he's had to shrooms. So, yeah, I find that quite interesting because obviously that's. Yeah, I think film and film we've done in only 12 episodes about a closeted gay man.

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Well, what was the other one? The conformists, of course.

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Yeah, because he hit the again, making those. So, yeah, I suppose there are something that's quite interesting, I suppose is the surprising focus on homosexuality, I always assume that is something that people don't really talk about. And I'm but like it's clearly something fascinating beyond the Valley of the Dolls it as well.

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Oh, yeah, of course not repressed in the same way, but it's had the characters and the interactions and stuff.

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And what was the, uh. What was the other one. Was gang did Gang Street have an element of it? We talked about it because it was it was homophobic, despite being it was homophobic. That's right. Yeah. I think when we look now that we've watched this one and beyond Valley of the Dolls, you can kind of see how Kingstree is more of a sort of studio film. I mean, all of these films are used by studios, but and you can definitely see how King Street was more of a sort of corporation and it was still sort of left ish, kind of anti-government anti Vietnam film.

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But yeah, in a very, very straight way. A very gettings and a safer sort of space.

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Exactly. Exactly. Compared to this one. Yeah, yeah, I. Was there some cinematography is is pretty nice.

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There's a lot of fisheye lenses and very interesting camera angles, and I think it does it seems a lot like music videos that I've seen time, though, from my lack of a lens for the sort of fair, because I think it slants into like this artistic move on more experimental British films at the time, which I just have never seen.

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It's interesting, you said to me in the Wikipedia article, and again, I know we always quote Wikipedia and it's like the Warsaw space is easy to get like things. And this was before this was before the MTV music video that you're talking about and the MTV music video style. So this was sort of the precursor to that.

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And what is cool was like let me look at when MTV started. I think it was like the late MTV started in 1981. So it was it was a decade after this. And so that the kind of music that you see in this film are the precursors to those ones by a decade before MTV, though.

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Mm. That music video is for MTV, the. Yeah, but this style of music video, Dugin. I believe. Yeah, sorry, there's a certain title I wasn't sure if this was a claim based on the fact that you have a film degree or claim based on like when MTV was made.

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No, no.

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There's a type of music video is associated with MTV and which like progressed from when it started up into the 90s and the like the the scene where Mick Jagger becomes Harry Flowers and that kind of music video style is like the precursor to the. Because that's not what music videos were like in the 70s. Yeah, that does make sense. Well, the only music videos I've seen that were even like mildly contemporaneous with the Beatles ones. And it's very weird how flat they are.

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Yeah, that's I mean, they're very. Yeah. And yeah, I like the fish. I lend the fish. There's so many fisheye lens shots in this film. Um, but they were popularized by like the 1990s music videos on MTV, like the rap, the 1980s rap videos and MTV were really the things that popularized fisheye lens as a sort of like urban modern kind of thing. Yeah, so there you go, you learn something new every day.

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Jimmy Carter for sure, learned something every day of school.

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And yeah, so that's interesting. Good music, video, cinematography. Yeah, so there's a little bits that are cut together and it's a both in terms of editing, in terms of cinematography and very interestingly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we talked about that before, but it's very disorientating, yeah, a very big fan of that thing as we talking about before, whether they, like, cut to different scenes together to show how they're related. Yeah.

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Intercutting. Yeah, I think it pulls that trick from the Colors trilogy as well. Or not from like culturally, literally like those sort of like flash presents as it were. Maybe I remember what to the.

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What in the hell is college trilogy? No, the trilogy from 1992.

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Yeah, so I'm saying I don't see any likely culprit. I'm just saying it's another film. OK, but yeah.

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So it looks like the Polish films. They are definitely French. The trilogy was a co-production in France, Poland and Switzerland last may be possible, the person that the music was, Polish people that wrote it, were Polish cinematography was by Polish people. It was directed by a Polish person.

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So, you know, well, I guess three colors, Trichuris, French Tricolore. Yeah. Cool. Well, actually.

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And what was it called? Work Cooler's. I'll do the trois.

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Oh, there's a lot of xenophobia in this film as well, and, oh, yeah, I think no, I think not in terms of by the filmmakers.

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In terms of by the characters.

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Yeah, just unnecessary. That's one of the something that occurred to me. It was like I was wondering actually how common I was thinking, how common would it have been to actually see foreign folk in 1970s London?

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I think it was pretty common, but not and not in certain circles.

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Yeah. You know, I think artistically. Yes.

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But in terms of the same standards now, much surely it's not the same extent as now, Shirley.

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Probably no. I'm trying to look here, but I'm not really sure.

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I think there's one point where someone's like, you know, he's he's he's he's up with two foreigners, unlike the foreigners are French. So like. Yeah. The least I wouldn't do, not racist or not, because when we joined the EU. When do we join the EU, is that not around this time? Seventy something, yeah, 73.

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Oh, well, that would be after the film, so that doesn't really make sense. The United Kingdom and the European communities and frustrating 1973, OK, because I thought maybe, you know, maybe it would be linked to that, like suddenly there'd be an influx of people, but it doesn't seem like it.

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And of course, the foreigners, the French woman is getting deported. Oh, yeah, yeah, so. Yeah, anyway, I mean, I assume there is still there was a column of immigrants at 1968 which gave a bunch of countries independence and then the. Were allowed to migrate, although the foreigners that they're talking about are not from the Commonwealth, they're from Europe. Yeah, so I don't know, but, yeah, there is there's a fair bit that there's a fun bit whether driving alone and then one of the cars, like, almost bumps into them and then the cancer goes, you bastard, foreign female, which is.

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Oh, yeah. I did write that down on the side of the episode. Oh, I've got a good title for the episode. Oh really?

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Why do you want to compare our best titles. Yeah.

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Like my my long hair beatniks, truckers, free love foreigners.

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I went for. No, oh no. I was on my phone even though there I was like I usually wear a hat.

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I think it was a hat that I feel like my one covers the film better.

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It does ok but cool. And I don't. Well, I feel like a man all the time. Yeah, yeah, maybe. Oh, performance, of course, he's putting on a performance. Yeah, how could we not? How could we forget about that? They're both on a performance, actually, and I think I think deep down and they're both similar people and but they both have gone to one extreme of their I think that's the point.

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The film and is that they're both very similar deep down, but they've both gone to one extreme of the persona which is there. And you say that's an accurate analysis? I think so.

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I mean. Obviously, I think I would say as a viewer at least, is that Mick Jagger's character, obviously in his own persona. Yes. Or his own performance, even though he's not as strong the sense of it. Yeah. Although I think the film necessarily drills into him. Yeah.

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So a lot of things I read and I know a lot of things I read a couple of things I read sort of implied that they both change, but I really don't feel like Mick Jagger changes much. And I think I think there's a couple of points where he sort of realizes that. And James Fox is kind of the man, the manly man he kind of longs to be in terms of power and stuff, because I feel like Mick Jagger really wants power and he wants to to be the man of the house and stuff.

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And I think he's sort of so flamboyant and feminine that he feels like he can get there. And I feel like there's a couple points in the film where you can see him become jealous of Fox.

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The court majority really doesn't speak very much, know half of the films and most of he does a lot of watching.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is quite, quite nice actually. I feel like that's quite a good way to do it because he is actually quite good at two and you can kind of tell what he's thinking and. Yeah. So yeah, he's a man of the house, he's got these women and then another one comes in and there's immediately this kind of jealousy and this and sort of fear of the unknown or fear change that you get. Um but I don't feel like he changes much by the end, although he does get shots.

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Maybe you kind of don't get the chance.

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Yeah. Maybe we should say I'm sorry I skipped over because the answer is I don't know. But why do you think I'm just not really.

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I don't know. And yeah, I yeah. Completely rewrite it. Yeah. I don't know. And. Maybe. He just can't accept that that's kind of him. And, you know, like I was thinking, maybe, maybe it's like a mercy killing like this world's too beautiful, but maybe there's not space for two cross dressers in London.

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Yeah, maybe. And I don't know. Yeah, it's an interesting one. Um. I maybe I should look up why I feel like that kind of is cheating, but let's see if there's an that would like see if there's different theories and stuff.

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Whitechurch, Turner and to, you know, smart people and.

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I can't even see. Uh, to the mirror, it says, yeah, Chaz shoots, Turner seems to kill to destroy part of himself.

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Yeah, well, that's what I was saying. That is what I found being. Yeah, that is that's what I meant when I fumbled my way for it. And yeah. Because he sees himself in it and that scares him. And because of how he's been brought up and his job, that's how he deals with that's how he deals with problems. He just shoots them, you know, he resorts to violence. I mean you see it in other parts of the film before he's in hiding.

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His default is to resort to violence and to. Use his power to. Take control of any situation, and I feel like he's loses control and with the drugs and then he because he's lost control, he feels the need to regain it and he takes out on the person that's made him realize that he's not who he thought it was.

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That was deep.

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I was doing and I was looking at a blog post, that's where there's also there's also like DSU, there's two pieces of cinematography slash editing that and really add to this idea. So there's there's one point where. Chaz and Turner are talking and then their faces are like faded and top of each other. Oh, dude, I'm talking about. Yeah, and which is like, you know, obviously that's the implication that they're the same and then equally they do the same thing with Chaz and the woman Furber, they feed their faces over each other, which I guess shows the feminine side of him as well.

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Oh, that's that is done at the same time, any sort of scene, because they come out all the time and then it faded over. Yeah, so I'm just thinking, people thinking we can talk about who directed it or have you got to be so it was directed by.

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Well, you say the one thing I can say is that one of the things they do say, both in the Guardian article I was just reading on the military, is that performance was very influential in the British gangster genre as a whole, which I find present. Really not that. Uh, I wonder what really does it sort of say, how were they along with a lot more straight edge or maybe a lot more straight edged before? And then I think it's very violent and maybe that's true.

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Yeah. I know John John Wayne has got a British gangster film called Branigin. Jim Branigan is sent to London to bring back an American mobster who's being held for extradition. Who is it like Zapp Brannigan from Future? I don't believe so. But I've looked at British gangster films and I'm not seeing a lot. I'm seeing Legend one cold attack the Block. Oh, yeah, that's right, gangster film that looks like a bunch of Neds, it's against OK and it's not Snatch obviously I need to see and I know that and then we're pretty much at performance.

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OK, well, maybe I need to watch more and. You do British gangster films, I guess so, yeah, we're talking about we're talking about the director, so it's directed by two people and Nicolas Roeg and Donald Camil and so they both directed it. But Roig did the cinematography and Cammo wrote the screenplay. And Roig also directed The Man who felt her. ABC not. I must admit, I have not. Have you heard of it?

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I. I have also not seen it. I have heard of it. I want to see it. It's the David Bowie film and where he's an alien.

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Ah. So he just works with Rockstar. Like, why they. I guess so. I guess so. He's also a cinematographer and I didn't actually look at who he's who he has cinematographer for.

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Let me have a look. Nicholas Warwick cinematography. Uh. Oh, he did. He was a second unit cinematographer in Lawrence of Arabia, so I guess that's. Oh, and he was cinematographer for Dr. Zhivago, though. Oh, wow. And Truffaut's Fahrenheit 451. Right, so he's done a few years a good recipe. Yeah, and so I guess that's how he also made he also made Castaway from 1986, which I assume is not linked, I assume is not linked to.

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Uh, uh, presumably not linked to Castaway starring Tom Hanks.

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Mm hmm. Oh, Castaway, starring Tom Hanks is two words in Castaway from 1960s Oneword. Oh, cool. So that's direct director and I don't know what else camera, I should look it up and I'm interested I'm interested that none of these people seem to be particularly involved with the British new wave, because I would think with that being in the early 60s, you'd think that people would still be able to say when, what and when was the British anyway?

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Nineteen fifty nine to 62, I believe some were more famous.

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Push me away from my Saturday night and Sunday morning. I think is the only one I've seen at the loneliness of a long distance runner. I really want to see. I look back in anger. OK, room at the top, there's only. Ten British New Wave films. So you could watch all of. But then how many how many French New Wave films are there? I feel like there's not that much. Oh, well, I can tell you one about it, but the whole point is 40 plus.

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But I think it looks like it's only me and my buddies from that magazine work here to Sinur. Yeah, only only only our phones cause French New Wave.

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Well, no, because Agnes father did French as well. So she was not part of that movement because there is people most people would say that that's baloney, because this probably wasn't because there was a site there was a safe site in the north side of Paris.

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And if I remember correctly, the north side was the cohered to cinema boys and in the South Side was Fada and thought, what was your husband? And and Jackie Jacks Demi. Who made what did he make? Fuck, I'm forgetting. Uh. Oh, I don't. I thought I'd see more of his films, though, anyway, the good news, Jamie, is that the British new wave is very clearly defined and it is 10 specific films by specific people and that you should check out.

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I've only seen one of them, but I want to see the rest because it's very good. And the British documentary Movement is another British film movement. I can recommend all. It's quite interesting. Well. That's fair for Fairfax, fair, fair share for fair background. Back to you. Well, I just like I was defending our view of the city.

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Oh, no, I'm sure you are. I'm sure you and I agree that the French new wave is a lot less defined than the British new wave. And other cinematic movements, yeah, yeah, one of the thing about the film that we didn't mention because I forgot, is that the thing that starts is like this court case about a merger.

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And there's the lawyer and. Yeah, and then he sort of, you know, talks about talks about stuff.

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He says another potential sizably episode, innuendos that I despise and innuendo verses in and of itself and innuendo.

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I know that's your favorite joke.

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Yeah. And you're into. Yeah, yeah. He's he gets to bang to rights love. And I felt that was quite funny in the same way I feel like what I have in gangster films like that one scene where like there's a traditional authority figure from like the light world as it were, and the gangsters have to cut and downsize.

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Exactly. His words have no power here.

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He said, you're know, good to talk to my client like that was that fucking song. Yeah. Yeah, it wasn't. What you going to do about it?

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Yeah, exactly. I say all the right water.

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I'm not thinking about the French new wave and I'm thinking I don't really like the French New Wave that much. Uh.

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I like it. Which ones have you seen? I've really not seen many of them, so to I've seen it. Have you seen Cleo? No, I don't. So what that's the film that everyone. It's not very good. Have you seen. Have you seen Band of Outsiders? No, it's not very good.

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I've seen Piara Laffoon breathless just to as I do, I should watch propolis.

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I like late weekend, but I don't think that's part of the French movie.

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I think I like the food. It was fun. OK, I wrote you my love.

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I want to watch. OK, that's enough of the French new wave fucking. We're watching British films this week.

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British films this week. Next week will probably also be watching something American or British probably.

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Oh well, we skipped over the historical context, Jamie. I had to be there.

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I didn't know you said that weird thing about not doing it anymore. And I was like, oh, I guess this is nothing.

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No, I said I said I no longer looked so much into and for magazines. Sorry, I if I no longer looks much into magazines that came out now.

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Yeah. One thing I was going to say might lead to a little little delay a little bit for a look so I can delay because I've got my comisar contacts.

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Fact. Yeah. Why don't you do that and then.

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OK, do you want to guess what happened on the 3rd of August 1970, Jimmy. Wow. Miriam Hargrave of Yorkshire, pastor driving test on the fortieth tri. Just a little bit of life, but, you know, that's that's what she's famous for. I think that's the record for the most attempts. Before. Oh, wow. It's control for that's 40 for zero, not 14 for zero. Forty tests. Yeah, I heard it's a cute slice of trivia that happened on your day.

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The this came out so maybe she passed a test and went to see performance. Who knows? That is possible, or maybe she saw performance and got so excited that she was able to pass the test. It was like someone someone drives a car in this film. Yeah. Wow.

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And she noticed that they changed the gear at a certain point. She's like, fuck, as I've been forgetting. And then she did it.

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All right, if you got your thing, it. I was just going to say originally we couldn't find a stream of it, but just in case anyone was wondering, we were going to do Mujo, which is a Japanese horror film or Japanese erotic drama film this week. There are no streams of it, although I get on it. People are finding that out right now. And and what it does does seem that it was bad. You know what the film Mahu.

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Yeah, hear it's supposed to be a bad boy in terms of his themes, OK, although he did make Ultraman, which I know you don't. Are you directed episodes of Ultraman was Alterman into Turkey Zaazou. So sort of. It's like the men in rubber suits fighting over the giant that sort of towards you know.

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Oh it's like Pérignon husband supposed to be the best. The best.

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It's like Power Rangers, Pirates of the Caribbean but and even cool. And I guess it was the other Japanese film and the Pearl Harbor crisis that we might watch when it when we get to it.

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And the that and. What's it called? It's, um, Thara Tortora. Oh, yeah, it's from the really I mean, it's, it's it's summer and it shows both sides though and in detail. Oh I'm sure it does.

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Maybe I'm being me. Well, Jimmy, that's the 21st of September 1970. So I really want to do that one. I think I've already said I think I said when we were doing catch 22 or when we were doing a two year old, I really wanted to do this one. So, OK, just remember, don't forget, there is a.

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I would say so about a thousand word long section on historical accuracy on this Wikipedia page. Really? Uh.

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Well, it's an epic, to be fair, so I guess we could go along with it, too. I was twenty five minutes. Minutes. Why? I mean, we'll watch it. We watch the play.

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I watched Hamilton last night and Disney plus. Oh yeah. You get a two hour, two hours, 40 minutes.

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Exactly what did you like it? I like. I've listened to the soundtrack back like that, you know, I'm like Hamilton is as inspiration as, yeah. As an as a musical and in terms of a story that I'm interested in and catchy songs know. But as like an experience, it was very well written. And like the staging was very nice. The way the songs flow together was really, really good and the acting was great.

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The characters really like the way they converted like historical characters into like a modern taking them is good. Uh, yeah, staging, lighting. All that shit was good. Yeah.

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So one of the songs that surprised no I must say I can't see myself listening to them and.

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Oh yeah. Like it's not, it's not your, not your limits to me.

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I prefer limits in terms of songs but I thought it was very good. I would watch it again but I'm very glad I watched it. That's a lot of me to ask you, and I'm going to do it on the podcast now, does Disney plus have a free trial in the U.K.? I don't know.

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I wish it did because I would have just used it. Most of the stuff. I'm going to cancel it this month. I paid I think I think I paid two months of it.

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And I feel like I've watched a lot of the they've announced like two things. I can't remember what I think of it. And like two things. I was like, I can't watch it. But there are Meulen.

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The live action remake is going to be exclusively on Disney Plus. But you also have pay to pay for it. You know, I saw that. Um, but yeah, I just I can't Warren, because I already pay for. I got my thing here. I think I think and I think it's on my lap, so I pay for late night TV and. Uh, was there before I said I don't pay for that much, but like I pay for Photoshop and I have a ridiculous number of students.

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Oh, I pay for you to eat your premium Photoshop. No TV. My gym memberships can start up again. So I'm like, I can watch the monthly cost, even though it's quite low because they just all add up, you know, you think, oh, it's only a fiver a month. I would spend a fiver on a coffee. But then if you're if you have like ten things that are five for a month, then it's something like I see a substantial.

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I mean, everyone's coming out now. I mean, that's how I get, you know, so they get somewhere and then, you know, they say and they say that you don't need a box anymore because there's all these truing services. But then you have to pay them all and then. Yeah, yeah.

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Anyway, I'm, I'm happy with the number. Yeah.

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Once once I'm done Disney plus I'll be happy with my number. I think probably I pay for high dive.

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Still I barely ever watch it but like as one as two shows on it I really feel I need to watch a movie as well.

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I'm going to cancel. Yeah. Because it's so free. Well, it was most easy and you didn't I just, uh, well, I can I'll tell you, I still think maybe he does.

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And I will tell you, it's on my laptop. I'll tell you once. I think I think it is the end of this month that I'm going to start paying for it, which I'm not going to do because it's not really worth it.

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And I think maybe it would be very good if you're, like, genuinely followed along with the intent of it by watching everything. Yeah. Like, most of them are surrendering yourself to that selection.

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I realize that what I do is I just go on it and see it as a film that interests me anyway. Was obviously a very small chance. Yeah.

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But yeah, I watched whatever shit there was around the world when you were 30, which was quite interesting.

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And both the Japanese horror film The House is on there right now and everyone tells me that's fantastic.

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Well, this film this film was a Japanese film. So around the World War II, it just was called those Portuguese is Portuguese and Japanese. And it's quite interesting. It's about the girl's dad that went on a trip around Europe and then moved to Portugal. And then she was like going for all the old stuff and talking about it. It was quite interesting, but not not that good either. It was quite boring. It's very low.

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I'm looking for it now. Like I said, I guess the stuff is like I should watch it. Yeah.

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I mean, I'm going to try and binge. I'm good. I guess I should binge both movie and Disney plus before the end of this month because I'm going to I'm not going to watch for all four seasons of The Simpsons.

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I started, I studied.

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I mean, I never thought I was going to watch for all of it, but I did start like Season one, episode one. And then I was like, I don't even like that much.

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Oh, no, I started season two and it gets really good. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure it does, but I don't like it that much to. Like I've seen a few of them, I don't feel like I need to. Set in motion. OK, well, so we go about by performance, I feel we have got a couple of things. It was voted the 48 greatest of all time by the PFA in 1999. And in 2008, it was ranked the one hundred and eighty second best film by Empire magazine ever.

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So so it is on this and not superhigh that I know this is a repeated refrain for me on this podcast, but is the sort film I can imagine it being someone's favorite.

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Yeah, absolutely. When someone somewhere will really, really connect with. Absolutely.

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But yeah, I really I can't say that every week, and I've maybe done it like seven out of nine times. No, you can't say it because it's true.

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I mean, it just takes it just takes a film to be like the perfect mix of whatever to to drive someone to get it and. OK, James Fox, who plays Chaz, can you guess who else he was in? He was I looked this up, he was he was, one would say, headhunted by Ken Loach for 30000.

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Oh, that's not what I had. OK, maybe someone that was just like you got to start looking for, like a. You still came in and he was like, hey, you've been missing and they were like, Yeah, I guess so, huh?

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No, no. My friend Don Bindon is the one who is also from the film.

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And my fact was that he was a rich dad and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, 2005. Oh, wow. And I think it's Veronica is Veronica this one, he's the dad, so that gives her money. You know, for the squirrel scene, they had real squirrels. They didn't try to fight. Yeah, I believe that, yeah. Pretty interesting. It's interesting. I'm giving you a lot of credit. Yeah, no, they had to.

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Yeah, real girls and they had to train them and. Yeah. Yeah, and anything else you want to? We met in person yesterday. Are we done with performance two days ago? Two days ago. Sorry, I was supposed to be today because we were supposed to record his retirement performance, but not dogs. You have to rate it, Jamie.

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Oh, yeah. Watch it.

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Watch it. Me too. That's a free. I said watch it, but don't pay for it or maybe pay for it.

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I think pay for it if it sounds like something you'd be into.

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No, I'm just going to say watch it. I've not been I've not been keeping the, uh, the thing updated. I started a spreadsheet of how we trade everything, and I've already neglected it like last two weeks.

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And I was like, uh, I would say if you you're in.

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So am I boring you? Yes. This podcast is boring. Jesus. I would say that if you're into the Bohemian life, if you like Mick Jagger, if you're curious about these films of like splits identity and of influence. Yeah. Um, give it a shot. Yeah, I would watch it for like some real filmmaking in particular. It's very worthwhile and I would genuinely say it's worth paying for.

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I'm not I'm not going to pay for it. But, you know, it runs on Amazon. Yeah.

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I'm not going swallow. No, I'm not going to say that just to a different heart.

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And no. Jamie Duncan. One rating.

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Exactly. I would check I would check out the British New Wave. If you like films like this, I can say having tea. Well, I would check out Saturday and Sunday morning. It's a good film. I think this is the second time I've recommended on the podcast, but as long as you believe that you go. I do. And it might just be because it was one of the few films I've watched on my course and enjoyed and oh, that's not fair.

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But one of the ones that I was like, damn, that was actually a good film that I would have liked to watch anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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OK, so yeah, that's the performance done. We met up on two days ago. It was fun wasn't it.

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Yeah, it was fun. Yeah.

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You, you community of your house. That was fun. Yeah. Yeah. Um. Yeah, right. I think are we done with the process? I don't think I have anything I've not really been playing many games. Oh, I play oh plenty coaster.

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Remember last week I was saying I was going to try and get the planet closer? Yeah, I sort of did a little bit and and I hope I'll probably play some more.

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And I saw it a little park on sandbox mode though, which is maybe where I'm going. But yeah.

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Yeah, I've, I've, I'm still watching Taskmaster. I've just started series nine. I'm playing the witch are free in the background, just in the blank background. Oh. Uh, I've almost done well and people are interested in my progress. Um, I'll probably be on no regret next week. OK, so I look forward to. Could be done, I think. OK, yeah, let's stop, let's stop. That's a good length. Byron, thanks very much for listening.

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Um, go and watch performance pay for it if you trust Amy's opinion more than mine. I'm sure you do. Yeah, good night. Good night.