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When Tracy Raquel Burns was two years old, her baby brother died.

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I was told that Matthew died in an accident.

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Her parents told police she had killed him. I'm Nancy Glass. Join me for Burden of Guilt, the new podcast that tells the true and incredible story of a toddler who was framed for murder. Listen to Burden of Guilt on the iHeartRadio App Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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A brand new historical true crime podcast.

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When you lay suffering a sudden, brutal death.

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Starring Alison Williams.

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I hope you'll think of me erased.

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The murder of Elma Sands.

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She was a sweet, happy, virtuous girl until she met that man right there.

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Written and created by me, Allison Flock.

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Is it possible, sir, we're standing by for your answer.

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Erased the murder of Elma Sands on the iHeartRadio App Apple podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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The system's broken. I said something's wrong here. You know, whenever a woman's allowed to kill my two kids.

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Unrestorable is a new true crime podcast that investigates the case of Catherine Hoggle, a mother accused of murder. Despite signs that Catherine Hoggle took her tiny children one by one into the night, never to come home again, she has yet to stand trial. Listen to Unrestorable on the iHeartRadio App Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the show completely ad free, subscribe to the Iheart True Crime Plus channel, available exclusively on Apple podcasts. Plus you'll get ad free access to dozens of hit true crime shows like Paper Ghosts, Betrayal, and The Idaho Massacre.

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There's a place beyond this place, a middle ground between the light and the darkness, the nader and the zenith. For some, it's a bridge between the living and the dead. Yet for others is something else entirely. It's the place where our nightmares dwell. Each one of us has touched the other side and felt the presence of something beyond this world.

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In this next story, we venture into the heart of Brooklyn, a place where cultures, collide and folklore lives on in the modern world. Here, amidst the concrete jungle and the hustle of city life, rowdy Rebel found himself haunted by an eerie figure, a man whose very presence instilled fear in those who crossed his path. A man rumored to be a practitioner of voodoo. For an eight year old Rowdy Rebel, it was the stuff of nightmares.

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So this your boy? Rowdy Rebel. I grew up in Brooklyn, New York. East flatbush, to be exact. And this happened to be around a time when I was like, I want to say nine years old, ten years old. I was coming up in Brooklyn, and I used to go to school. I used to walk to school by myself. My pops let me walk to school by myself when I was young. Coming up, everybody in the neighborhood always knew me. Everybody always liked my pops and respected him. So I used to go to school every day, same route. Used to woke up 51st, 52nd, 53rd, then go to PS 268, right there on the corner. Sometimes I used to see this lady come out the store and always buy me candy. She used to buy like, all the little kids candy at the school. She was from the neighborhood, she was a sweet lady. But she used to always tell us about this voodoo man, this Haitian man. We used to call him the Voodoo Man. So we never really seen this guy till I got older. I got older, I moved to the 90s. So growing up in the 90s, basically, my neighborhood is mostly like a West Indian vibe, west Indian feel.

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So you have fucking Jamaicans on one block, you will have a bunch of Haitians on another block, trinity's on another block you have Aki stores. And then where I was coming from, there was a lot of hustling going on, a lot of gang banging going on for me. So that was really my neighborhood. I used to live in fifty s first. And I moved to the 90s when I moved to the used to see this guy with, like, holes in his ears and holes in his lips. You know, the earrings were not like an earring, you know, when you get your ears pierced, but it's like a big hole in your air. He had like, those big air loops. Then he had three of those in his lips and his face had stars on it. He had one eye that was not cockeyed, but like, half face shut, and the other eye was fully open. Somebody put him on a movie scene, like straight character. It was so scary, bro. It was like one of the scariest shit I ever seen in my life. I used to run for this guy. I don't know what it was.

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I used to be so scared, shook on my mind. And one time I told my pops like, yo, who is this guy? My pops like, yo, it's a Haitian, man. He mind his business, don't worry about him. So boom, I used to go home, I used to tell my little brother, like, yo, listen, you see this man? Don't sit up with him, don't talk to him, don't even even acknowledge him. Then later on, I started having dreams about this shit. Like, yo, nah, my tripping. Yeah, I used to have nightmares about that guy, I'm telling you. But then before, I used to have nightmares about him, I used to have nightmares about Busta Rhymes videos. And it was like one time I had a dream. I never figured this dream, like, both of them was in the dream, bro. Swear to God, bro. Yeah, he used to do these videos like, give me some out. Where the cheese at? Give me some out. He used to have these characters in the videos, the demonized characters. Even when he had that if you really want to party with me. The video way in the videos he was making, it it was just so scary to me.

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Like, his face expression. I was like, nah, scary guy. I used to see the nigga after. You know, you see somebody one time, you just are seeing them again, seeing them again, seeing them again. I used to see this thing all the time, bro. I used to be shook. I used to go home. He used to have nightmares. I started talking about pops again, like, yo, bro, this guy's crazy. I used to see this guy thinking, chasing me, something. He see me and I run. Like I still see him an hour later, like, what the fuck? I'll be at a park playing ball. I see him come down the block, walking. I'm like, now I'm out of here. I'm going this way. A couple of days go by, again, I see this nigga again, bro, walking to a store somewhere, I'm walking, I see this one. Then I seen this nigga. One time. I'm going to a basketball game, bro. I never forget the day, but I'm going to a basketball game. I got my shorts, everything, my bag and shit. I see this nigga, I basically think and drop my bag. So now when I'm about to go back for the bag, I'm scared to go back for the bag, bro.

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I get to the game, I don't got my shorts. Had a borrow shorts from Nickers. Lost my whole bag that day, bro. Like, super scared from this thing, I must say. Probably when I got like 13, like 1314, I wasn't scared of something no more. I don't know, I think I was getting older in the streets. She was a family no more. But yeah, that's one of my horror stories right there. That ass.

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Rowdy rebel chose a path that led him away from one form of darkness into another. Ironically, by embracing the streets, he found reprieve from the haunting gaze of his voodoo tormentor. But at what cost? Fear is a powerful motivator, one that can drive us to make choices we never thought possible. Whether it's the fear of the supernatural or the fear that comes from our own worldly choices, we are all haunted in our own unique ways. Lock your doors. Be cautious of the paths you tread. And always remember, some fears are conquered, only to be replaced by others. Growing up, we see a world around us that we lose sight of as the years pass. Or maybe we feel an energy that sometimes manifests itself in the form of something we can visualize, at least for a brief moment in time. Whatever the case may be, this energy can weigh heavy on a person or even a place. This next story explores just that. On this episode, we have La legend, radio royalty, an overall amazing human being, big boy. We're honored to have him on the show, sharing his hip hop horror story.

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All right, let me try to paint this scenario for you guys, right? That was twelve years of age, and we were living in Los Angeles. And at the time, we were going through a homeless situation. So we ended up moving with this family that lived off of Nintieth in Vermont named the Coleman family. I'm not sure how my mom knew these people, but they were gracious and kind enough to allow us to live at their home. The house a la basic house, I think it was three or four bedrooms. Four bedrooms. And the patio in the back. Being that it was eight of us that moved into this household with these people, we had to kind of like sleep where we could. So my brother and I, my brother Mouse, we would sleep in the back, like, where there was a patio. And I remember it had like linoleum floors. It was the last part of the back of the house that led to the backyard. And I remember their father had passed away. And so with their father passing, you always felt this vibe in the house. This vibe in the house. I remember one time I was in the living room, and you know how when you have the arrowhead or the gallons of water and you will hit the button to dispense the water and it'll get that air and it'll go and it only does that when you're dispensing water.

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I was in the living room and I heard in the kitchen, I heard the water do the and I'm like, okay. Shit. What the fuck was that? So I get up and I look, no one's in the kitchen. So I started to feel like, man, are we getting these vibes of he's here? They spoke about their father all the time. I had never seen a picture of their dad. I'd never seen a picture of their mom, who also was deceased. But you just felt these things in the house. And their father lived there when he died, so it wasn't like he died. And then they moved to another place. We were actually staying with this family in his home. Like his room was his room. This is this man's house. So one night, my brother and I, my brother Mouse, we're sleeping in the back where we lay down at, right? And for some reason I started to feel like this vibe that we weren't the only ones in the room. And when I looked over at my brother, mouse was completely knocked out. So I hear the door open. Now I'm literally laying on the floor, like on blankets.

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I hear the door open. I'm twelve years of age and I'm like, fucking shook. My brother's literally laying next to me. So when the door opened, it could have been anyone in the house that could have came back to check on us. So I push my head up, and I look, and I cock my left eye open, and the door is opening slowly, but there's no one on the other side of the door. It wasn't like my older brother or one of my sisters popping over the door like, Kurt, hey, none of that. You don't see a hand pushing it open. You don't see a figure of somebody standing there. You just see the door making this steady motion, as if it was opening slowly. And I know it sounds like a scary movie, but it was, like, not the sound, but the way the door opened. And it's freaking the shit out of me. But I don't yell. I don't scream. I don't wake my brother up. And as I'm looking at the door, I see the door now start to close. But it opened up where it felt like it was wide enough for somebody to walk into that room.

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It wasn't a jarred. It wasn't like the wind blew it open. It was a steady motion, like someone was coming into the room. Now, I put my head down. As I'm putting my head down, I'm like, okay, I don't want to see nothing. I don't want to hear nothing. I don't want to have nothing around me. As I have my head laying down, I hear bare feet, like someone that was barefoot walking past my head. Now, at this moment, I'm not looking up to see shit. I know what these footsteps sound like. I know that I can hear these footsteps coming towards me, closer to me, right at my head. Then I can hear the sound start to dissipate, start to like the person had already walked past me. I don't open up my eyes. I don't look. I don't try to see shit, right? So now I'm buried in the pillow, okay? I don't want to see nothing. I don't want to see nothing. I don't want to see nothing. But my brother mouse is still knocked out. So as I'm laying there, I rotate my head. And when I look now I'm looking at the actual curtains, because the patio is right there.

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So I'm looking at the curtains. But before I do that, when I turn my head, I cock my eyes open, and when I look, I see it looked like not it looked like it was someone's face floating in the curtain. Like, I could see the person's face. I could see the mannerisms, the bone structure, and the person was wearing, like, a derby cap, but I could see this vividly. Now. I'm gazed at it, and I see it. It's not like it was a vision. And I put my head down. I'm looking at this, and I see the person jawline, the person's nose. I see the eyes. Then I see the derby hat. And the derby hat is laid upon his head, like, low. So now I close my eyes once again, open my eyes back up and the image is gone. And when I say image, I don't mean like, it was something like, floating on the curtain or it was like a mirage. I felt like it was actually there. When I closed my eyes and opened them back up, it was gone. I put my head back down, and I start to hear.

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When Tracy Raquel Burns was two years old, her baby brother died.

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I was told that Matthew died in an accident, and no one really talked about it.

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Her parents told police she had killed him.

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Medical records said that I killed my baby brother.

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I'm Nancy Glass. Join me for Burden of Guilt, the new podcast that tells the true and incredible story of a toddler who was framed for murder and how she grew into an adult, determined to get justice and protect her family.

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While we had prosecuted some cold cases, this was the coldest. This was frigid.

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But how does a two year old get blamed for murder?

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She said we wanted a new life. You just don't know what it's like when you'll do anything for somebody.

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Listen to Burden of Guilt on the iHeartRadio App Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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You a brand new, historical true crime podcast.

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The year is 1800. City Hall, New York.

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The first murder trial in the American judicial system.

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A man stands trial for the charge.

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Of murder, even with defense lawyers Alexander Hamilton and Aaron Burr on the case. This is probably the most famous trial you've never heard of.

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When you lay suffering a sudden, violent, brutal death, I hope you'll think of.

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Me starring Allison Williams.

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I don't need anything simplified, mr. Hamilton. Thank you.

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With Tony Goldwyn as Alexander Hamilton.

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Don't be so sad, Catherine.

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It doesn't suit you.

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Written and created by me, Alison Block.

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What are you doing?

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Let go of me.

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Listen to erased the murder of Elma Sands.

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She was a sweet, happy, virtuous girl until she met that man right there.

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On the iHeartRadio App Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

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I noticed Jacob is not in his crib. So I look in Sarah's room. She's not there. So I'm like, okay, they're not there.

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Unrestorable is a new true crime podcast that investigates the case of Catherine Hoggle, a mother accused of thinking, you know.

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Like, what's going on? This is insane. Like, where are my kids?

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Despite signs that Catherine Hoggle took her tiny children one by one into the night, never to come home again, she has yet to stand trial. Because soon after her children went missing, she was declared incompetent to stand trial.

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We have a blueprint to get away with murder in the state of Maryland.

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At this point in Maryland, if a defendant is found incompetent and can't be restored to competency, their felony charges are dismissed after five years. So as the clock counts down, catherine's charges on the verge of being dismissed. What does justice look like in this.

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Case, something's wrong here. You know, whenever a woman's allowed to kill my two kids.

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Listen to Unrestorable on the iHeartRadio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear the show completely ad free, subscribe to the Iheart True Crime Plus channel, available exclusively on Apple podcasts. Plus you'll get ad free access to dozens of hit true crime shows like Paper Ghosts, Betrayal, and The Idaho Massacre.

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Next morning, I wake up, I'm talking to my brother Mouse. Before I could say anything, my brother Mouse says to me, he said, Kurt, I think I saw something last night. And I'm like, oh, shit. I'm like Kenny Man, which is Mouse. I'm like, Kenny. I said, I felt something, too. I felt like I saw something. And so he explains to me that he felt something, I guess at a different time, walk past his head and he could feel the breeze, like when somebody pass you. The same with me. You could feel the breeze of when someone's breaking that wind when they're passing by you. He had the same experience that I had when I thought he was sleep. He had the same experience that I had while he had the same experience when he thought that I was sleep. So I was sleeping, he had the same experience. So now as we compare stories and I'm twelve, my brother Mouse is 15, we get up, and now everybody's congregating in the kitchen, everybody's standing around, so on and so forth. So we go to tell the family what we felt from last night, this presence.

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And as we're speaking, they're very intrigued and really engaged to what we're speaking about. It's not like these kids and this teenager, and they're like, oh, they're just telling these tales. Everything that we were saying, they held onto. And so when we started talking about the footsteps that we heard, so on and so forth, they said that's where our father used to go. And that was like his getaway room. So we're sleeping in his getaway room, and they said there were nights when if he couldn't sleep, he would get up and he would walk back into this room, and that's where he got away, not to disturb anyone, but that was like, the place that he enjoyed going to. So then I tell them. I said, you know what? I think I saw your father. I've never seen a picture of this man. And I said, he was like, thin face. I describe his jawline. I describe what his nose looked like, pointy nose. And he was wearing, like, a derby cap. As soon as I said derby cap, the entire family started crying. They said, I explained their father, exactly how their father looks.

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When I saw a picture of their father, when they went and got the home didn't have all these pictures of their dad, so on and so forth. I guess with their dad dying. I don't know if there was a pack away, but I had never seen a picture of their father. And so as I'm telling him about his nose, his bone structure, he was wearing a button down like a button down shirt with a tie. And once I got to the derby hat, they lost it. And once they went to go find a picture of their dad as I'm sitting here many decades later, when I saw that picture of their father, that was fucking 100% on spot with the person that I saw that was floating that image that was in the actual curtain. So they were saying what he would do was he would walk out, go to that room, hang in that den area, and that's how he would access the backyard. He would walk through there to access the backyard. So that was like his area. It was peaceful. The oni's being scared and frightened shit was upon me and possibly my brother Mouse.

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It wasn't like it felt like anything evil. It wasn't like he was trying to run us outside the house. And that was the same thing with the water dispenser. They said that he would get up late at night and he would drink water. It's one of those experiences, man, that you spend some time trying to talk away, or you spend some time like, man, did that really happen? And as I'm sitting here today like, shit, it was real that day. And decades later, shit, it's real now.

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Should we fear the things we don't understand? Or should we have an open mind to the various entities we may see in our short time here? Big Boy, although fearful, felt a sense of calm when he went through his experience. There was a message there. And luckily, he was courageous enough to look up and receive it. That's all the time we got for tonight. I'm your host, Belly. Thank you for tuning in to Hip Hop Horror Stories.

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Op. When Tracy Raquel Burns was two years old, her baby brother died, I was.

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Told that Matthew died in an accident.

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Her parents told police she had killed him. I'm Nancy Glass. Join me for Burden of Guilt, the new podcast that tells the true and incredible story of a toddler who was framed for murder. Listen to Burden of Guilt on the iHeartRadio App Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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A brand new historical true crime podcast.

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When you lay suffering a sudden, brutal death.

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Starring Allison Williams, I hope you'll think of me. Erased the murder of Elma Sands.

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She was a sweet, happy, virtuous girl until she met that man right there.

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Written and created by me, Allison Flock.

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Is it possible, sir, we're standing by for your answer.

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Erased the murder of Elma Sands on the iHeartRadio App Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcasts.

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I'm Paul Muldoon, a poet who, over the past several years, has had the good fortune to record hours of conversations with one of the world's greatest songwriters, sir Paul McCartney. The result is our new podcast, McCartney a Life in Lyrics. Listen to McCartney a Life in lyrics on the iHeartRadio App Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.