This is the JoCo Underground podcast No.7 with Echo, Charles and Me, JoCo Willink, good evening. Good evening. All right. So recent conversation that we had, a recent conversation that we had and I just wanted to address it because I think there's some lessons learned. So I forget what triggered the conversation.

But I ended up asking you if I had ever. Crossed the line in my harassment of you. Now there's actually some background behind this.

This is an off air conversation that we were just talking and I forget what brought it up.

But Bozak, John, Bozak, when we were younger and we were kids, you know, I mean, I was probably like 13, 14 years old. And he's a couple of years older than me, so whatever. While he was 15 or 16. And, you know, I mean.

I kind of go hard in the paint, and so I'll never forget it, and it actually left an impact on me, like I said something to him, some insult, some some harassment to him.

And he and he said in a playful but slightly meaningful way, right, we call it cracking, but fakin.

Yes, he goes you always go too far.

And and I remember that is kind of it was a good life lesson, even at a young age, to think, OK, I have a tendency, there's a possibility that I'm going to go too far. So you and I was probably harassing you the other day. I was like, wait a second. Have I ever, like, crossed the line?

And you actually said yes, and look, this is a weird thing because, you know, do you have an insult or do you have harassment or do you have, you know, sort of ribbing? Right. That's the word for like, you know, we're just getting each other a hard time and it's weird. One time I said I use the term harassment.

I'm like, oh, just harassing Echo. But actually harassing is a term that's used, meaning, you know, super negative way, like I should be in in trouble. We're not talking that kind of harassment. We're talking about gentle, fun ribbing, which is obviously what we do with each other all the time. I feel that my behavior was inappropriate. That's what I feel like I agree with. I agree I was wrong.

I feel like I was out of the box and I could see sometimes very rarely my my to quote John Bozak, sometimes I go a little bit for sometimes for a little a little bit of self entertainment. Like I chuckled, you know, I kind of thought it was funny while it was happening. I figured all I this is going to work it out.

So I sacrificed an appropriate behavior for a little for my own personal little chuckle. Yeah.

So I think that's a bad move. My bad strategic move. That's when I started thinking about this a little bit more deeply to of people are thinking, where are we going with this is handling insults and how to handle them. So we'll get to that in a minute because I think it's important to think about just like anything in life, if you have a game plan, you can you can handle situations better. If you don't have a game plan, you get caught off guard and all of a sudden you either look dumb, feel dumb or act dumb, none of which we want to do.

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